[05:41] <magespawn> good morning
[06:18] <Kilos> morning all
[06:40] <MaNI> morning
[07:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[07:09] <jan_> Hi Kilos 
[07:09] <jan_> hoe gaan dit?
[07:09] <Kilos> hi jan_ 
[07:10] <Kilos> goed dankie en self
[07:10] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy MaNI 
[07:10] <Langjan> Ook goed dankie
[07:11] <Langjan> Wie was die Samaritaan wat my gehelp het met my router?
[07:11] <Kilos> o
[07:11] <Kilos> zerlgi
[07:11] <Kilos> um
[07:11] <Langjan> nee
[07:11] <Kilos> andrewlsd
[07:11] <Langjan> jaaaa
[07:11] <Kilos> selle ou
[07:12] <Langjan> o
[07:12] <Langjan> ?
[07:12] <Langjan> Soos jan en langjan
[07:12] <Kilos> het jy nie sy epos nie
[07:12] <Kilos> ja net so
[07:13] <Langjan> Ja, lmarinkowitz?
[07:13] <Kilos> ek het nie sy epos nie 
[07:13] <Kilos> ek soek nog
[07:13] <Kilos> kannie glo nie
[07:14] <Kilos> Maaz  seen andrewlsd
[07:14] <Maaz> Kilos: andrewlsd was last seen 6 days, 20 hours, 22 minutes and 38 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-07-10 03:51:39 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-07-10 06:30:06 PDT
[07:14] <Kilos> ai!
[07:14] <Kilos> weet jy hoe om mense te sien op launchpad?
[07:15] <Langjan> nee
[07:15] <Kilos> sjoe wag ons werk dit uit
[07:17] <Kilos> kyk hier https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/
[07:17] <Kilos> hi hoort daar te wees onder een van daai nieks
[07:18] <Kilos> dan tiek jy op hom en hoort n epos address te sien
[07:18] <Langjan> dankie sal probeer
[07:18] <Kilos> of n contact this person knoppie
[07:21] <Kilos> nee dis nie reg nie
[07:21] <Kilos> ai!
[07:21] <Langjan> Hy is nie daar nie
[07:21] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/~ubuntu-za
[07:22] <Kilos> ai!
[07:22] <Kilos> nou het ek vergeet waar
[07:23] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za
[07:24] <Kilos> tiek dan all members
[07:24] <Langjan> Is dit Andrew McIver?
[07:24] <Kilos> ja
[07:25] <Kilos> dan bo regs contact this person
[07:26] <Langjan> Baie dankie, ek wil hom vra hoe jy daardie routers van ander plekke af bykom, dis iets wat ek lankal oor gewonder het
[07:26] <Langjan> OK sien jou, lekker dag Kilos 
[07:26] <Kilos> enige tyd my vriend
[07:26] <Kilos> jy ook dankie
[07:26] <Langjan> Baie dankie, mooi loop
[08:58] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy  did you get that external working?
[08:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> couldn't get grub to work on it
[08:59] <Kilos> ai!
[09:03]  * Kilos dreading getting a thinkpad that wont accept linux even
[09:04] <Kilos> more research
[09:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> what model is it?
[09:04] <Kilos> t410
[09:05] <Kilos> must be in the uefi stuffs
[09:05] <Kilos> aparently it cant be set to boot from usb even
[09:06] <Kilos> will see when it arrives
[09:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installation_instructions_for_the_ThinkPad_T410
[09:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> seems like a pretty old model
[09:07] <Kilos> yeah well the battery is 2011 model
[09:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> I see it lists Intel graphics and 2 NVIDIA options
[09:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> wonder if the has that optimus nonsense
[09:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> that was a massive PITA last time I used it :-/
[09:09] <Kilos> PITA?
[09:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> perhaps its gotten better
[09:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> pain in the ass
[09:09] <Kilos> rofl
[09:27] <Kilos> hi Cryterion 
[09:30] <Cryterion> hi
[10:17] <mazal> Goodday
[10:18] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[10:19] <mazal> Gaanit oom
[10:35] <Kilos> goed dankie en self?
[10:38] <mazal>  Goed dankie , raasie baie nie
[10:38] <Kilos> net koue wind vandag
[10:41] <mazal> Ja nee , die is week 'n naweek vir oorbenutting van binneshuise aktiwiteite
[10:41] <Kilos> lol
[10:59] <mazal> maaz seen quejan
[10:59] <Maaz> mazal: quejan has been offline on freenode since 2015-07-08 04:04:08 PDT
[11:10] <mazal> Anybody worked with this before: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/citadel-open-source-email-and-collaboration.html
[11:10] <mazal> Looks interesting
[11:40] <mazal> oom Kilos you here ?
[11:40] <Kilos> yessir
[11:40] <mazal> I needs help
[11:41] <Kilos> lol
[11:41] <Kilos> what s happening
[11:41] <mazal> Can you maybe remember which config file it is that one edit to enable smilyes in konversation
[11:41] <mazal> I want to disable mine , can't remember which file it is
[11:41] <mazal> It was part of that " 20 things to do in KDE " and I can't find that doc either :P
[11:41] <Kilos> havent you got the konversation tips and tricks anymore
[11:42] <mazal> I can't find any of those docs oom gave for me
[11:42] <mazal> I saved it all to pdf
[11:42] <mazal> Maybe I bookmarked it , lemme check
[11:43] <Kilos> https://userbase.kde.org/Konversation/Tips_and_Tricks
[11:43] <Kilos> in there i think
[11:43] <Kilos> i also saved it somewhere
[11:44] <Kilos> i like smileys then i see wh sticks tongue out at me
[11:45] <Kilos> mazal  ~/.kde/share/config/konversationrc 
[11:45] <mazal> The smileys breaks some links
[11:45] <Kilos> delete 
[11:45] <Kilos> [Themes]
[11:45] <Kilos>  EmotIconTheme=Default
[11:45] <Kilos>  EnableEmotIcons=true
[11:46] <Kilos> or change to false , i dunno
[11:46] <mazal> Will try false first
[11:48] <mazal> :)
[11:48] <mazal> That works , dankie oom
[11:48] <Kilos> yw
[11:56] <mazal> Ag nee , I can't scroll back ?
[11:57] <Kilos> lol
[11:57] <mazal> Is that normal ?
[11:57] <Kilos> what do you want
[11:57] <mazal> Or another setting somewhere
[11:57] <Kilos> restart konversation
[11:58] <mazal> I wanted to scroll back on the history now to go check the link
[11:58] <Kilos> what link
[11:58] <Kilos> https://userbase.kde.org/Konversation/Tips_and_Tricks
[11:58] <mazal> It was one that was partially broken by 'n smiley
[11:58] <mazal> No was a ppa link
[11:58] <Kilos> oh my
[11:58] <mazal> Of something else
[11:58] <Kilos> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/citadel-open-source-email-and-collaboration.html
[11:58] <mazal> Nope
[11:59] <mazal> But never mind , wasn't very important. But why does my history disapear on restart ?
[11:59] <mazal> Isn't it supposed to keep x number of lines ?
[12:00] <Kilos> dunno
[12:00] <Kilos> i dont see another link from you
[12:00] <mazal> Wasn't here oom
[12:00] <Kilos> ai!
[12:00] <Kilos> vra hulle
[12:00] <mazal> I found a setting called " show backlog "
[12:01] <mazal> That must be it right ?
[12:01] <Kilos> oh there is lots saved somewhere
[12:01] <mazal> It was on 10 , changed it to 99 now
[12:01] <Kilos> i save 1000
[12:01] <mazal> Mine can't go higher than 99
[12:01] <Kilos> but dont think its saves them all
[12:01] <Kilos> there are 2 places to set it
[12:02] <mazal> The other one is "logging". That's the one that writes the logs to txt files on disc
[12:02] <Kilos> under chat window
[12:03] <mazal> Yep that's the one I found that don't accept higher than 99
[12:03] <Kilos> no man
[12:03] <Kilos> scrollbacl limit
[12:04] <mazal> Don't see that. Under what is that one ?
[12:04] <Kilos> up and down arrows to set it
[12:05] <Kilos> behaviour then chat window
[12:05] <mazal> Ok , mine is 1000
[12:06] <Kilos> actually mine is 1830 hehe
[12:06] <mazal> Gonna check if that show backlog changed anything
[12:07] <mazal> Yeah that made a difference :)
[12:07] <Kilos> yay
[12:07] <mazal> Wonder why the limit is so low though
[12:08] <mazal> They prob think more than that you can go read the log file
[12:08] <Kilos> thats for peeps that never do anything
[12:08] <Kilos> those that chat only because they can
[12:09] <mazal> On a busy channel 99 lines is nothing
[12:09] <Kilos> yeah
[12:09] <mazal> maaz do you realize we didn't eat today
[12:09] <Maaz> mazal: What?
[12:10] <mazal> Yeah , I have same response , WHAT !!!???
[12:12] <mazal> Might as well finish the last cookies :P
[12:12] <Kilos> lol
[12:15] <mazal> Another thing I find interesting , I can't set the log files to be split up into seperate files per date
[12:16] <mazal> Will be a big search if I want to find something of April for example
[12:16] <mazal> Can't set the log file size either
[12:16] <MaNI> just grep for date? 
[12:17] <mazal> aaaaah you see , that why I hang here , the smart people always knows a way :)
[12:17] <Kilos> lol
[12:17] <mazal> Thanx MaNI
[12:18] <mazal> Now I just need to remember that the day I need it lol
[12:18] <MaNI> unless it doesn't log the dates nicely
[12:18] <mazal> oom Kilos , your job to remember that one
[12:18] <mazal> MaNI: lemme check
[12:18] <MaNI> I never liked konversation so haven't looked at it much :p
[12:19] <Kilos> nee man kop is oor vol
[12:20] <MaNI> cat #ubuntu-za.log | grep www | grep ppa | grep ':)' - or something heh
[12:20] <mazal> " Tuesday 20 January 2015 blah blah blah "
[12:20] <mazal> Complete enough I would say
[12:21] <mazal> That comes out of the log btw
[12:21] <mazal> Except the blah blah blah part
[12:22] <mazal> And I need to go sleep cos I am starting to talk crap
[12:28] <mazal> Ok I'm out for now
[12:28] <mazal> Have a good afternoon guys , girls and bots
[13:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> I'm back
[13:52] <Kilos> wb
[13:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> O/S reinstall so much less painful with puppet :)
[13:53] <Kilos> where did you go?
[13:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> re-installed my laptop quickly
[13:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> now running ubuntu in UEFI mode
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[13:56] <Kilos> all internal?
[13:59] <Kilos> i dunno what the whisper thing is
[14:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> whisper, so people don't hear me :-p
[14:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> yes all on the ssd
[14:03] <Kilos> lol
[14:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> and all this for a kids toy :-o
[14:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh well, its done, and thanks to puppet re-installing ubuntu isn't any real effort except for rsyncing my home dir back from backup copy
[14:05] <Kilos> i dont even know puppet
[17:25] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:25] <Kilos> even colder tonight and tomorrow
[17:25] <Kilos> sigh
[17:42] <inetpro> ai!
[17:42] <inetpro> good evening
[17:42] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[17:44] <inetpro> glad that if tomorrow is colder then at least it's Saturday
[17:44] <Kilos> yeah i though about you on the boney
[17:44] <Kilos> thought
[18:09] <mazal> What be a boney ?
[18:29] <Kilos> motor bike
[18:41] <Kilos> if you go over 80k/h temp drops 10 degrees
[18:52] <inetpro> Kilos: where do you get that?
[18:52] <Kilos> talk to bikers
[18:52] <Kilos> wind chill factor
[18:53] <inetpro> well I believe you but is that really a fact?
[18:53] <Kilos> yes
[18:53] <inetpro> wow... didn't realise it was that bad
[18:54] <Kilos> yip
[18:54] <inetpro> explains why my fingers are burning when I get to the office
[18:55] <Kilos> if you travel long way you will see you cant open your hands off the bars , you slide them off the sides
[18:55] <inetpro> luckily it's just 30 minutes of suffering
[18:56] <inetpro> this morning was tough
[18:56] <Kilos> if you then put hands under a cold tap it feels like they are burning
[18:57] <Kilos> thats why they now sell heated clothing and gloves and everything so you can plug them into the bike
[19:01] <inetpro> Kilos: it's amyth
[19:01] <inetpro> a myth*
[19:01] <Kilos> nono
[19:01] <Kilos> you been gooling
[19:01] <Kilos> googling'
[19:02] <Kilos> google lies
[19:02] <inetpro> "Wind doesn't actually reduce temperature at all"
[19:02] <Kilos> talk to bikers
[19:02] <inetpro> "it's probably one of the most subjective and misused measurements in all of weather science"
[19:02] <Kilos> nono but your hands do
[19:02] <Kilos> your hands get colder than the temp outside
[19:03] <inetpro> I can tell you it feels damn colder for sure... 
[19:03] <Kilos> even leather gloved dont help
[19:03] <inetpro> still reading... http://www.bikebandit.com/community/articles/the-wind-chill-myth
[19:03] <Kilos> google wind chill factor
[19:03] <Kilos> ah lemme see
[19:05] <inetpro> "the evaporative effect can drop the actual temperature of the object"
[19:05] <Kilos> too much rtfs
[19:05] <Kilos> ya and you are the object
[19:06] <inetpro> there must be a way to counter that
[19:06] <inetpro> need better gloves
[19:06] <Kilos> leather gloves with plastic packets over then to help cut the wind
[19:07] <Kilos> and ride slower
[19:07] <inetpro> fortunately it's not all that bad... our winter is not ha;f as bad as many other places on the planet
[19:08] <Kilos> ya, those peeps would enjoy our weather
[19:08] <Kilos> dont forget you fit in with your environment
[19:09] <Kilos> we would die at minus 30 but eskimos go hunting ta that temp and even less
[19:16] <Kilos> night all. sleep warm
[19:35] <mazal> Night everyone , sleep well
[19:37] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:37] <inetpro> good night