[04:09] <sparr> The brightness hotkeys on my Asus X551 don't work in Xubuntu. They didn't work in Ubuntu with Unity or XFCE either, but these instructions fixed it there and not now: http://itsfoss.com/fix-brightness-ubuntu-1310/
[04:10] <holstein> well, they are all ubuntu, at the core, and i think you'll find the main difference is, the updated base.. from 13.10 to 15.04.. is that what you are trying? 15.04?
[04:11] <sparr> I was using Ubuntu 15.04 and am now using Xubuntu 15.04.
[04:11] <sparr> I did make different selections during install for proprietary drivers and downloading updates during the install, so perhaps there's something there that distinguishes the two situations.
[04:12] <holstein> right.. and, you were not able to make it work in *any* 15.04, correct?
[04:12] <holstein> i would expect needing the proprietary drivers..
[04:12] <holstein> though, the guide you link, references an intel driver..
[04:17] <sparr> it worked fine in Ubuntu 15.04, running Unity and XFCE, after I made the changes recommended that link
[04:18] <sparr> making the same changes in Xubuntu 15.04 has no apparent effect.
[04:19] <holstein> well, its challenging to say what the changes you have, locally, but, xubuntu *is* ubuntu 15.04 with xfce
[04:19] <holstein> so, did you have a different proprietary driver running in main ubuntu 15.04? vs, your current xubuntu 15.04 install?
[04:22] <sparr> I don't know. Not intentionally.
[04:25] <holstein> sparr: sure.. maybe confirm that you are using the same kernel modules you are needing to add for that functionality to work
[04:26] <sparr> I don't know which kernel modules those are.
[04:26] <holstein> sparr: the proprietary drivers you referenced
[04:28] <sparr> I'm looking now and I don't think there are any proprietary drivers for the intel graphics card or backlight
[04:30] <holstein> sparr: there shoudlnt be.. but, you referenced, "i did make different selections during install".. and, that could be the difference that is holding you up.. what are those settings?
[04:30] <sparr> i think there were two of them
[04:30] <sparr> one was "download updates during install"
[04:30] <sparr> the other was "install proprietary drivers" maybe?
[04:30] <holstein> right.. but, thats  not going to get you different software
[04:30] <sparr> there aren't a lot of checkboxes in the installer
[04:30] <holstein> just updated.. after you update, you'll have the same result
[04:31] <holstein> see that you have all available upgrades
[04:32] <sparr> I think I have done that
[04:32] <holstein> cool.. just check, and see..
[04:33] <holstein> you can simply open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[04:34] <sparr> aha! I think I made this change last time, but not this time: http://askubuntu.com/a/603980/4739
[04:34] <sparr> gonna try rebooting after making that change
[04:37] <sparr> no dice
[04:39] <holstein> well, if the shortest path is, install main ubuntu, make keys work, and install xfce.. that is xubuntu, basically
[04:39] <sparr> not really
[04:39] <sparr> there's a lot of Unity stuff left running in the background that way that is very annoying
[04:43] <sparr> aha, got it!
[04:44] <sparr> had to add acpi_osi= to the grub options, and remove the acpi_backlight=vendor that another guide had told me to add.
[05:39] <kuzorra> Good morning everyone!
[05:40] <vrkalak>   o/
[05:40] <kuzorra> Can anyone help me with some power management issues I'm having in a freshly installed 14.04?
[05:41] <kuzorra> HDD spin down can not be selected....
[05:41] <kuzorra> ....hdparm can spin it down manually, but it doesn't work with a given time limit
[05:42] <kuzorra> It's a Western Digital Blue 640GB SATA drive, but spin down used to work until I made a fresh install yesterday
[05:49] <vrkalak> https://help.ubuntu.com/community
[08:18] <winsux> is it possible to run update-manager in a ssh session without a gui? just typing update-manager gives me gtk errors that it cannot open a display
[08:26] <koegs> winsux: just package updates or updating ubuntu to a new version?
[08:27] <winsux> i want to just update packages if there are any updates. with update-manager i mean the software updater
[08:27] <winsux> it is called update-manager in the shell
[08:28] <koegs> "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will do the same job
[08:31] <winsux> 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' this will upgrade the distro (i.e. xubuntu current.version to xubuntu x.x) right? that is not what i intend to do
[08:31] <winsux> i read that the software-updater and apt-get are two different things. i.e. software-updater will list updates that you can't get with apt-get
[08:37] <koegs> thats not true
[08:38] <koegs> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will update all installed packages, not xubuntu itself
[08:42] <winsux> i think you are right, issuing dist-upgrade gives me many packages
[08:43] <winsux> is it possible that i can break things with dist-upgrade rather than using software updater?
[08:44] <koegs> it basically does the same thing, but you can never know if you have regressions with updates (although unlikely)
[08:45] <winsux> okay. thank you for your help
[10:01] <sjoshi> hello, i am not able to see auto ethernet option in network settings, I have ethernet and Wireless both but having problem while connecting to ethernet
[10:01] <sjoshi> I am on Xubuntu15.04
[11:05] <CGY> Why UNSUPPORTED UPDATES is checked by default?
[12:03] <knob> Good morning!
[12:09] <knob> Hey guys, I have Xubuntu laptop (4cores, 4gb, ssd).  I installed VirtualBox, and setup a Windows8 machine in there.   All is good, except when the Xubuntu host is going to "lock screen".    I don't know if it is because the entire ssd and my home folder is encrypted, yet the Xubuntu machine sometimes completely hangs.
[12:09] <knob> Any idea what could be going on?
[12:13] <mks1945> Hi guys, I have a problem with firefox 39 in Xubuntu 14.04. It is crash every 5 minuts
[12:14] <mks1945> it is on many mashines (~50)
[12:43] <Luke> How to solve this error ?
[12:43] <Luke> Failure to download extra data files
[12:43] <Luke> The following packages requested additional data downloads after package installation, but the data could not be downloaded or could not be processed.
[12:43] <Luke> ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[12:43] <Luke> The download will be attempted again later, or you can try the download again now.  Running this command requires an active Internet connection.
[13:30] <ManicPanic> my laptop is getting very hot with Xubuntu opensource graphics drivers. On 14.04 my laptop's proprietary card is not supported. should i choose a version of Xubuntu that supports my laptop ? like 12.04 , or 13.04 ?
[13:50] <xubuntu84w> Hello everybody! Reason of ugly looking QT apps was found https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12012
[13:52] <xubuntu84w> I've built xfce4-session from git but can't login anymore... I was building on 14.04. Please take a look at it, maybe you should rebuid it and push as update
[14:23] <Lopulus> UU0
[16:29] <Killerday> If I make changes to a live CD. Will they stay for the install
[16:29] <Killerday> Wallpaper download apps things of that nature
[16:30] <knome> Killerday, no, you'll have to redo that
[16:30] <Killerday> Ok thank you
[17:41] <xubuntu476> hola
[17:41] <holstein> !es
[20:31] <amari> Hi, how do I assign the Super (windows) key to open the whisker menu? thanks
[20:32] <mrkramps> amari, you'll have to add a schortcut
[20:32] <amari> what is the command to add for the shortcut to work?
[20:33] <mrkramps> amari, command is 'xfce4-popup-whiskermenu'
[20:33] <amari> mrkramps: It's done :) . So easy! thanks!
[20:34] <mrkramps> amari, you will also have to remove some default shortcuts
[20:34] <mrkramps> like terminal is bound to super+t
[20:34] <amari> mrkramps: Those shortcuts still work
[20:34] <amari> here
[20:35] <mrkramps> but menu will open
[20:35] <amari> mrkramps: No it doesn't :)
[20:36] <mrkramps> i remember this to be an issue oO
[20:37] <amari> mrkramps: I'm using 15.04... maybe it was fixed in this release
[20:37] <mrkramps> ah, ok
[20:37] <mrkramps> good to know :)