[09:29] <OhYash> Is this channel dead?
[09:29] <OhYash> I think yes
[09:51] <svij> indeed, everybody dead here. :D
[10:41] <aG-pest> good morning m8s
[10:48] <aG-pest> can i ask something about coding a webapp?
[11:13] <jrbt> plop
[11:24] <hasan> hello!
[11:25] <hasan> i have an issue...
[11:27] <hasan> i receive my ubuntu phone next days but it was not connected to the internet that receive older OTA updates before OTA-5. older OTA updates should be installed? and how to install before OTA-5?
[11:31] <conyoo> you can update the phone any time
[11:31] <conyoo> go to the settings
[11:32] <hasan> so old OTA updates will be received with OTA-5 on my phone?
[11:52] <tathhu> mariogrip: oh, silly me. Was on IRC all night and still forgot telegram doesn't work (yet..) :D
[13:38] <rachelfish> Hi #ubuntu-touch !
[13:38] <rachelfish> When can I get one in the US?
[13:38] <rachelfish> :)
[13:58] <tathhu> Now? Get a Nexus 4/5 and flash Ubuntu on it, or wait. (AFAIK)
[14:08] <ahoneybun> tathhu: rachelfish the BQ and Meizu devices work on some carriers in the US but you'll be stuck to 2G/3G I think so the Nexus4/5 is  best
[14:34] <rachelfish> ahoneybun: So if I buy a nexus I can install ubuntu touch on it?
[14:34] <rachelfish> With my existing cell provider?
[14:34] <ahoneybun> rachelfish: Nexus 4 or 5
[14:34] <ahoneybun> who is your carrier?
[14:34] <rachelfish> verizon
[14:35] <ahoneybun> well the Nexus 4 and 5 do not work on Verizon
[14:35] <rachelfish> oh
[14:36] <ahoneybun> yes
[16:28] <tathhu> Meh, back to stable
[16:28] <tathhu> I need telegram xD
[16:34] <popey> yeah, frustrating that it broke :(
[16:35] <popey> tathhu: you could go back a couple of images, and stay on rc proposed
[16:35] <popey> just update once it's fixed
[16:37] <tathhu> udf --channel=blaa --revision= xy?
[16:37] <tathhu> what if.. i'd just try it .:D
[16:42]  * tathhu rtfm's
[16:50] <ahoneybun> popey: your back I see
[16:52] <tathhu> unknown flag :-(
[17:18] <popey> ahoneybun: Ya!
[17:19] <popey> tathhu: ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=foo --revision=NN
[17:27] <tathhu> popey: unknown flag :/
[17:39] <peat-psuwit> When camera-app wake from suspend, why CameraClient is destroyed and re-created?
[18:07] <lionrouge> hi
[18:08] <lionrouge> ubuntu touch looks promising. I'm even thinking about getting Aquaris E5 with it. But Firefox OS looked promising too. And it was an epic fail. What is different between these two platforms that will prevent Ubuntu touch from failing?
[18:10] <lionrouge> i'm afraid QT/QML is not fast enough (at work i sit just behind a guy who's now making a GUI app on QT5. It's shit i should say)
[18:11] <lionrouge> i myself tried to make a simple calculator on Qt5 and it was laggy as hell on a machine with Atom N-series. Written in HTML+JS and run in FF it worked pretty smoothly
[18:14] <lionrouge> the other thing that makes me doubt is this belief that relying on "web" is enough. "Web" is not a magic. Noone will create apps for Ubuntu phone as much as for Android and iOS. Using mobile versions of sites? Or even complete ones? On 5'' displays? Firefox OS guys were web-hoping too - look at them now. The market is full of crap
[18:24] <tathhu> "gnome 2 -phone would be awesome" ok reddit, I'm out.
[18:24] <tathhu> Phone without a gui would be better awesome ":D"
[18:26] <K1773R> tathhu: but not the regression ;)
[18:31] <Guest46374> hello
[18:57] <tathhu> that was fast
[19:24] <brobostigon> yep, some people have no petience.
[19:33] <Ciccios> \nick ^Ciccios^
[20:12] <carif_> i updated a nexus 10/manta device to r257 using ubuntu-device-flash. now the device keeps trying to restart in a continuous cycle, all I see is the "Google" splash screen.
[20:12] <carif_> How do I fix this?
[20:12] <barney_> hello all
[20:15] <carif_> I've tried 'ubuntu-device-flash --verbose touch --serial=<serial> --channel=ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/ubuntu --bootstrap' after wiping the device using the ubuntu recovery but that doesn't help
[20:16] <carif_> nice spinning logo however
[21:18] <carif_> I can revert back to r2 on manta, are any more recent images working?