| === m0nkey__ is now known as m0nkey_ | ||
| mapwrk | Hi all | 02:18 |
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| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| bujji | rm: cannot remove ‘Year Wise Finance Data.lnk’: Read-only file system | 07:50 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:38 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 12:17 |
| brobostigon | hi bigcalm | 12:22 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 12:25 |
| diddledan | afternoon | 14:14 |
| brobostigon | afternoodlings diddledan | 14:20 |
| diddledan | noodlings, eh? /me gets his camera | 14:21 |
| * brobostigon is the noodle monster. | 14:23 | |
| diddledan | pastafarian? | 14:24 |
| brobostigon | that reminds me, i am making pasta for me and my gf for dinner this evening. | 14:26 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 14:26 |
| brobostigon | :) | 14:26 |
| * brobostigon needs to get the ragu started pretty soon then. | 14:32 | |
| diddledan | supposedly asking siri to "charge phone 100%" will make her call the emergency services | 14:39 |
| brobostigon | lolz | 14:40 |
| popey | \o/ home | 15:19 |
| brobostigon | :) | 15:20 |
| diddledan | wb popey | 15:22 |
| diddledan | ooh, divergent series: insurgent is available for purchase on tuesday | 15:32 |
| diddledan | I enjoyed the first one | 15:32 |
| diddledan | I'm a bit of a fan of teen-fiction even though I'm somewhat older than teen these days | 15:33 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| === m0nkey__ is now known as m0nkey_ | ||
| rlw980 | Ever since I've installed the latest Linux 4.1.2 Kernel my PC has been going mad, I'm a Windows user and not a Linux/Ubuntu user this is all new to me if you fully understand me :) | 16:33 |
| rlw980 | In other words how can I restore the old kernel back, if you get me :) | 16:33 |
| directhex | rlw980: how did you install 4.1? | 16:35 |
| popey | (also why) | 16:35 |
| rlw980 | directhex: I sent you the URL now where & how I installed it | 16:35 |
| directhex | ...uh? | 16:36 |
| rlw980 | directhex: bascally I covertered it from tar.xz to a .deb format, then installed it | 16:37 |
| popey | ew | 16:37 |
| directhex | ye gods | 16:37 |
| popey | you probably don't want to do that | 16:37 |
| diddledan | err | 16:37 |
| diddledan | how do you convert a tar.gz to deb | 16:38 |
| diddledan | xz** | 16:38 |
| rlw980 | I've done it, any suggestions or tips #ubuntu-uk | 16:38 |
| popey | yeah, don't do that :) | 16:38 |
| diddledan | is it even compiled in the tar.xz? | 16:38 |
| rlw980 | diddledan: I've delete it now | 16:38 |
| popey | what was the motivation for going to 4.1? | 16:38 |
| directhex | diddledan: the "alien" command converts between packaging formats | 16:38 |
| rlw980 | popey: keeping up-to-date (like Windows) | 16:39 |
| diddledan | directhex: but .tar.xz isn't a binary "package" (usually) | 16:39 |
| popey | its not really necessary unless there's some hardware or software feature you're after | 16:39 |
| directhex | rlw980: sounds more like you copy-pasted notskrnl.exe from windows 10 to windows 7, and are now having weird issues for some reason | 16:39 |
| popey | what guide did you follow? | 16:39 |
| directhex | *ntoskrnl | 16:39 |
| directhex | diddledan: arch uses it, no? | 16:40 |
| diddledan | lol | 16:40 |
| rlw980 | diddledan: I'll send you a pastebin.ubuntu.com | 16:40 |
| diddledan | aah | 16:40 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| diddledan | directhex: it might be from slackware :-p | 16:40 |
| popey | I'd just be inclined to boot back to your previous kernel, and reconsider why you need 4.1.2 | 16:40 |
| popey | It's certainly posible to do | 16:41 |
| directhex | we have no idea what alien did to the grub config | 16:41 |
| popey | just there are some better ways to do it | 16:41 |
| diddledan | doesn't the ubuntu kernel team have a ppa? | 16:41 |
| popey | yes | 16:41 |
| directhex | but yes, it *ought* to still be listed in grub, so just a case of booting back into that kernel & removing the wayward package | 16:41 |
| popey | also "going mad" doesn't quite describe any specific problem :) | 16:41 |
| rlw980 | I've done that "uname" commands take a look: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11899557/ | 16:42 |
| directhex | rlw980: people in here have been doing this crap for decades each. please bear in mind that when you're asked a precise question, you need to provide a precise answer | 16:44 |
| directhex | rlw980: we still have no idea what guide you followed, so have been powerless to provide helpful suggestions for ~10 minutes | 16:45 |
| rlw980 | directhex: I'll call techicnal support | 16:45 |
| diddledan | directhex: I hear that. I was messing with gentoo when I was in diapers :-p | 16:45 |
| directhex | sigh. is that 2 or 3 strikes? | 16:45 |
| diddledan | err. this _is_ technical support (alternatively #ubuntu for a more populated technical support) | 16:46 |
| rlw980 | diddledan: no it's not it's all text based chat and Microsoft has better tech support and some of them are lol. :P | 16:46 |
| directhex | diddledan: "technical support" isn't based on telepathy or omniscience. specific questions still need specific answers. | 16:46 |
| directhex | 3 strikes. i'm done. | 16:46 |
| popey | rlw980: we're trying to help | 16:47 |
| popey | rlw980: but you're not helping us help you. | 16:47 |
| diddledan | rlw980: I'm not sure microsoft's technical support will be able to help you in this case | 16:47 |
| rlw980 | Yes they will if I'm removing Ubuntu & go back to Windows 8.1 more professional and all I want to do it get rid of linux kernel 4.1.2 and put the old one that was one Ubuntu 15.04 no I want professional techincal support | 16:49 |
| * diddledan facepalms | 16:49 | |
| directhex | here you go. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/clean-install | 16:50 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 16:50 |
| popey | rlw980: we have asked you numerous questions which you've completly avoided answering. No technical support (professional or otherwise) can help you. | 16:50 |
| rlw980 | popey: none of you are professinoal's anyway :') | 16:51 |
| rlw980 | lol | 16:51 |
| popey | My day job is working on Ubuntu | 16:51 |
| popey | So yeah, I am. | 16:51 |
| directhex | the next generation, ladies & gentlemen. | 16:51 |
| popey | Most of the other people are also profesional developers, operations experts or tech support people. | 16:51 |
| rlw980 | popey: Ubuntu is spyware lol | 16:52 |
| diddledan | grr | 16:52 |
| rlw980 | Tha'ts what I got told | 16:52 |
| directhex | i'm a professional griefer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr2Bc5qMhE4 | 16:52 |
| diddledan | FUD | 16:52 |
| popey | rlw980: feel free to use something else. | 16:52 |
| m0nkey_ | yey, freebsd :D | 16:52 |
| rlw980 | popey: I'm think about that now, if I can't restore my old kernel back | 16:53 |
| rlw980 | Can we start again? | 16:53 |
| directhex | we still haven't started. | 16:53 |
| directhex | 17:35 <directhex> rlw980: how did you install 4.1? | 16:53 |
| rlw980 | OK | 16:53 |
| popey | Sure. What guide did you follow? | 16:53 |
| directhex | that's where you got stuck. | 16:53 |
| rlw980 | directhex: Right I got the latest and stable version 4.1.2 from here - https://www.kernel.org/ | 16:54 |
| rlw980 | directhex: after that I googled how to install the kernel | 16:54 |
| rlw980 | I'm trying to find the website that helped me | 16:54 |
| rlw980 | Please bear with me :) | 16:55 |
| directhex | well, that's more info than we had before | 16:55 |
| rlw980 | directhex: I installed a couple of tools | 16:56 |
| * brobostigon is the nostalgic BeOS/haiku nut, :D | 16:56 | |
| directhex | make-kpkg? | 16:56 |
| rlw980 | called fakeroot, alien &kernel-package | 16:56 |
| directhex | right, ok. | 16:56 |
| rlw980 | Found it! :D the website that helped me install 4.1.2 and even though that this website says 3.12 I followed ever steps | 16:57 |
| rlw980 | http://www.tecmint.com/kernel-compilation-in-debian-linux/ | 16:57 |
| rlw980 | and yes I used make-kpkg | 16:58 |
| directhex | fairly easy, then. it didn't *replace* your old kernel, it installed alongside it | 16:58 |
| rlw980 | directhex: I deleted the old kernel though :/ | 16:58 |
| diddledan | yeah, don't do that | 16:58 |
| directhex | well, reinstall that package | 16:59 |
| rlw980 | diddledan: I've done it | 16:59 |
| rlw980 | Shall I go root on term "sudo -i" and type this command in "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-(non-working-kernel)" | 16:59 |
| directhex | apt-get install linux-image-generic | 16:59 |
| rlw980 | directhex: what about the 4.1.2 kernel | 17:00 |
| diddledan | apt-get remove it | 17:00 |
| rlw980 | command please | 17:00 |
| directhex | rlw980: put the old kernel back; boot into the old kernel; remove your 4.1 | 17:00 |
| directhex | in that order | 17:00 |
| rlw980 | Oh right :/ | 17:00 |
| diddledan | yeah don't remove the 4.1 until you're sure you can boot the old kernel | 17:00 |
| rlw980 | diddledan: Oh right umm -faces palms- I removed it :( | 17:01 |
| rlw980 | What now | 17:01 |
| diddledan | reinstall it | 17:01 |
| diddledan | directhex gave you the command for that | 17:01 |
| rlw980 | diddledan: didn't | 17:01 |
| diddledan | so this is a figment of my imagination?: <directhex>apt-get install linux-image-generic | 17:02 |
| rlw980 | as | 17:02 |
| rlw980 | root | 17:02 |
| rlw980 | or | 17:02 |
| rlw980 | not | 17:02 |
| popey | actually | 17:02 |
| brobostigon | sudo* | 17:02 |
| popey | sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ | 17:02 |
| popey | that will put back anything you removed | 17:02 |
| diddledan | popey: that's a good plan | 17:02 |
| popey | note the caret on the end | 17:03 |
| * popey goes back to cooking | 17:03 | |
| * diddledan likes carrots | 17:03 | |
| rlw980 | right | 17:03 |
| rlw980 | I'v | 17:03 |
| rlw980 | e | 17:03 |
| rlw980 | I'm currently doing "apt-get install linux-image-generic" | 17:03 |
| popey | that'll do | 17:03 |
| rlw980 | Then what do I do after that, do I remove 4.1.2-customkernel one then? | 17:04 |
| * brobostigon also notes, his spacebar is not a replacement for good punctuation. | 17:04 | |
| diddledan | brobostigon: you mean the enter-key | 17:04 |
| brobostigon | diddledan: yes that, :) | 17:04 |
| diddledan | :-p | 17:04 |
| diddledan | I still want to find the "any" key | 17:05 |
| directhex | rlw980: after that, you reboot into the old one. you should get a menu at boot-time for which kernel to use | 17:05 |
| rlw980 | directhex: I'll be get rid of 4.1.2 one | 17:05 |
| diddledan | no | 17:05 |
| rlw980 | Yes | 17:05 |
| diddledan | we said not to do that already | 17:05 |
| directhex | 18:00 <directhex> rlw980: put the old kernel back; boot into the old kernel; remove your 4.1 | 17:05 |
| directhex | 18:00 <directhex> in that order | 17:05 |
| rlw980 | My PC | 17:05 |
| rlw980 | I've told you I've remove it already lol :P | 17:06 |
| diddledan | ffs | 17:06 |
| directhex | i'm out again. | 17:06 |
| directhex | this is why i quit tech support | 17:06 |
| rlw980 | diddledan: should you be on #ubuntu-us? | 17:06 |
| diddledan | err.. why? | 17:07 |
| rlw980 | lol | 17:07 |
| rlw980 | diddledan: because your from US ain't you | 17:07 |
| rlw980 | lmfao :') | 17:07 |
| diddledan | not that I'm aware? | 17:07 |
| rlw980 | OK | 17:07 |
| rlw980 | directhex: your not eben tech supoort ffs I've told you this this isn't tech support your all beginners | 17:10 |
| rlw980 | its a chat | 17:10 |
| diddledan | insulting people trying to help you isn't a good way to garner their advice | 17:10 |
| directhex | i spent 11 years doing tech support, including 6 years on linux-powered supercomputers | 17:10 |
| directhex | but sure, kid, whatever turns you on | 17:10 |
| rlw980 | directhex: Linux is the s*ittiest OS ever & yeah aha next joke :) | 17:11 |
| * brobostigon buryies his head in his hands. | 17:12 | |
| directhex | there has never, NEVER been a single thing of value or substance submitted to IRC via a web gateway | 17:12 |
| brobostigon | i agree, most people who really use irc, use a proper client like irssi, for example. | 17:12 |
| * zleap uses hexcha | 17:12 | |
| brobostigon | web gateways and proxies are very good at hiding ones-self. | 17:13 |
| brobostigon | and are used on purpose. | 17:13 |
| zleap | web intercaces are fine but if you close a tab or window you lose connection | 17:13 |
| brobostigon | hence i said zleap, use a real client like irssi. | 17:13 |
| zleap | oh web gateway | 17:13 |
| zleap | i have irssi for the console | 17:14 |
| brobostigon | :) | 17:14 |
| popey | we should probably punt all new support requests to #ubuntu as a rule | 17:18 |
| popey | Problem is we're pretty good at support :( | 17:18 |
| === m0nkey__ is now known as m0nkey_ | ||
| brobostigon | oh well, :( | 17:19 |
| directhex | you couldn't pay me to help out in #ubuntu | 17:19 |
| directhex | well... maybe if i got double what i get at xamarin | 17:20 |
| brobostigon | my gf might get a free pebble in the future, she offered to buy me an upgrade for my birthday, :) | 17:26 |
| diddledan | brobostigon: birthdays ftw! | 17:26 |
| brobostigon | diddledan: in 9 days, :) | 17:26 |
| brobostigon | if anyone is in north oxfordshire, boozeup day, :) | 17:27 |
| diddledan | tis a shame xamarin don't do an ubuntu-touch offering :-p | 17:27 |
| diddledan | and I guess firefoxos is completely out of the question | 17:28 |
| brobostigon | both have the same issue for me, which would otherwise be an option for me, xmpp client, and pushover/pushbullet client. | 17:28 |
| brobostigon | make them an option* | 17:29 |
| diddledan | I'm not sure how firefoxos works with ongoing network requirements - probably just shuts them down as soon as the app isn't foreground | 17:30 |
| diddledan | I also think ubuntu does the same | 17:31 |
| diddledan | so for things like xmpp you need a pushing proxy | 17:31 |
| diddledan | i.e. server connects to xmpp on your behalf and pushes stuff to your phone | 17:32 |
| diddledan | due to the techy nature of ubuntu's current audience it'ld be nice if there was a way of having an IRC connection that can be maintained even when the viewing app is suspended | 17:33 |
| diddledan | the problem with that is battery life tho | 17:34 |
| diddledan | afaict ubuntu's current model is awesome for baattery | 17:34 |
| diddledan | I hear that when the screen is off it barely uses battery at all | 17:34 |
| diddledan | unlike android | 17:34 |
| diddledan | directhex: regarding xamarin: I thought when ms announced visual studio community that miguel also said that xamarin would support it with a free version of the mono+vs plugin? | 17:36 |
| directhex | no idea. i don't deal with the Products | 17:37 |
| diddledan | I haven't seen that happen, so I'm wondering if I imagined it | 17:37 |
| * brobostigon looks that up, xmpp proxy. | 17:37 | |
| diddledan | directhex: oh well, worth a try :-p | 17:38 |
| diddledan | odd. it seems that the official "starter edition" page lists visual studio but if you move from there to the paid "indie" you lose it | 17:40 |
| diddledan | ref: https://store.xamarin.com <-- indie listed as not having visual studio, but: https://xamarin.com/starter <-- says it's part of starter | 17:41 |
| diddledan | so you pay for a lesser package? | 17:41 |
| diddledan | although unlimited app size | 17:41 |
| diddledan | I've just posted a question to windows insider fora: http://www.pastebin.ca/3066719 (expires in 1 hour) | 19:49 |
| diddledan | I posted that under the title "Confusion or Misinformation about the upgradeability to 10240" :-D | 19:51 |
| penguin42 | it's entirely possible they've not decided or are as confused as you | 19:54 |
| diddledan | indeed. hence why I asked the question for a once-and-for-all answer | 19:54 |
| diddledan | I've twittered @gabeaul :-p | 20:00 |
| diddledan | someone just replied on the forum: Thumbs up. (both) | 20:01 |
| diddledan | lol | 20:01 |
| shauno | hm. your jokes are getting worse? | 20:02 |
| diddledan | ? | 20:02 |
| diddledan | shauno: not a joke. I'm running windows :-p | 20:03 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: poor man | 20:03 |
| diddledan | lol | 20:07 |
| diddledan | don't you love spam? "My name is Lucy. I am 25 years old. I am from Chongqing. I like your page. How often do you visit the site? I really want to communicate with you. I am good at Thai massage and really like to eat fish. What about you? I guess that we will have many topics to talk about." | 20:20 |
| diddledan | I wonder which "the site" she means? | 20:20 |
| diddledan | the site of my previous lover's death? (hint, she's in the basement! :-p) | 20:21 |
| mapito | hahaha | 21:20 |
| mapito | love it | 21:20 |
| mapito | diddledan, :D | 21:20 |
| shauno | summer's weird. it's almost light out, and mapps is here already | 21:46 |
| diddledan | :-p | 21:48 |
| shauno | also, speaking of spam, I got a rather explicit spam from someone calling themselves Mildred. It stuck out that Mildred is very possibly the least sexy name it could have generated | 21:51 |
| diddledan | lmao | 21:52 |
| shauno | in other news, I have sunburns! which after 9 years in Ireland, I'm oddly proud of. | 21:55 |
| diddledan | twitter: "be thankful tonight - that the stars are shining and the moon is bright. And the man in the garden wearing a hockey mask doesn't have a key" | 21:57 |
| diddledan | \o/ irish sunburn! | 21:57 |
| shauno | fun week on the water. tuesday and weds burnt me to a crisp, thursday soaked me to the bone, and friday blew me sideways | 21:58 |
| shauno | and we sank a pub! | 21:59 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 21:59 |
| shauno | it was oddly funny. we found a great gastropub with no corkage fee. so we stocked up at tesco, went to the pub and ordered food | 22:08 |
| shauno | starters came, and then they burst a pipe in the kitchen and flooded out | 22:08 |
| shauno | so we were left wandering around dun laoghaire in lashing rain with 3 bottles of wine and nae foods | 22:09 |
| diddledan | :-( | 22:09 |
| diddledan | \o/ for the wine tho | 22:09 |
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