[00:06] <diddledan> so who's been playing with wily?
[00:07] <diddledan> shauno: how dare you assume I'm being n0rty!
[00:07] <diddledan> shauno: so I might have been but that's besides the point..
[00:07] <shauno> hey, leave me out of this
[05:10] <mapito> hey
[06:04] <mapito> none of the night owls around hm
[06:31] <MartijnVdS> hmm?
[06:32] <MartijnVdS> night? at 8:30?
[07:31] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:42] <MartijnVdS> \o
[09:15] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:53] <knightwise> morning brobostigon
[09:55] <brobostigon> morning knightwise
[10:14] <knightwise> how you doin brobostigon
[10:14] <brobostigon> not bad really, abit mixed, and you?
[10:15] <MooDoo> morning brobostigon knightwise MartijnVdS
[10:16] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[10:33] <MooDoo> how are you brobostigon
[10:33] <MooDoo> ?
[10:38] <brobostigon> see above, :)
[10:39] <MooDoo> oh aye :D
[10:39] <brobostigon> :)
[10:40] <popey> hmm
[10:41] <popey> dug an asus tf101 out of a drawer and re-flashed android on it
[10:41] <popey> battery is completely dead, won't hold a charge at all
[10:41] <popey> dies as soon as you pull the charger cable out :(
[10:43] <MartijnVdS> :(
[10:44] <popey> bought a replacement proprietary charging cable for it because I wrongly thought that was the issue
[10:44] <popey> happy i managed to re-flash it to stock android though, it was running a version of Ubuntu touch from 2012 :)
[10:44] <ali1234> can you access the battery charge controller?
[10:45] <popey> dunno
[10:45] <popey> I could take it apart
[10:45] <ali1234> just put 3.6v directly across the battery terminals, skipping the charge controller
[10:45] <popey> you can buy replacement batteries on ebay, and there seem to be a lot of guides to replacing it, as it's a common problem
[10:45] <ali1234> this will probably fix it
[10:45] <popey> interesting
[10:45] <ali1234> just do it for like 1 second
[10:45] <ali1234> while it is also connected to the charger
[10:45] <ali1234> this will reset the controller chip, then it will work
[10:46] <popey> thanks. will give that a try.
[10:46] <ali1234> normally on laptops you can;'t do this without ripping the battery open
[10:46] <ali1234> and then it won;t go back in the laptop
[10:47] <ali1234> looks like the battery is semi-sealed still
[14:26] <daftykins> diddledan: tested out the xbox one windows 10 streaming yesterday :O https://www.dropbox.com/s/t8kng4jeuu3i5rl/VID_20150718_201513.mp4?dl=0
[17:05] <directhex> daftykins: batman, playable on pc? :o
[17:32] <diddledan> daftykins: sweet
[17:35] <knightwise> hey peeps
[17:36] <knightwise> anyone know anything about nagios  ?
[17:36] <diddledan> this is stupid: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/33566933/ripping-music-and-films-illegal-again-after-high-court-overturns-new-law
[17:37] <diddledan> knightwise: I know a little
[17:38] <brobostigon> this is not conducive to sanity, amazon delivering my birthday present on a sunday, leaving it at my neaghbours this morning, and they arent home yet, :(
[17:38] <knightwise> hey diddledan , do you know where I need to set things up to send out email notifications ?
[17:39] <knightwise> i changed the commands.cfg in /etc/nagios3 to use sendemail instead of /bin/mail
[17:39] <knightwise> but when I look in my nagios report he points towards /usr/bin/print
[17:40] <knightwise> so i'm not sure where to replace the send mail command line
[17:40] <diddledan> knightwise: I believe you need to set a service definition to "notify x, y, z" where x y and z are user references. you can do this in each service or you can do it in something that each service depends on, such as the template thingy
[17:42] <knightwise> yep , ive got that setup
[17:42]  * brobostigon mumble rants.
[17:42] <knightwise> the only thing i think is the matter is that nagios is using /bin/mail instead of sendemail
[17:42] <knightwise> my isp does not allow firing off emails via port 25 and requires me to use an external smtp server
[17:45] <knightwise>  this is the error i am seeing   Attempting to execute the command "/usr/bin/printf "%b" "***** Nagios *****\n\nNotification Type: FLAPPINGSTOP\n\nService: check_http\nHost: Multifunctional\nAddress: 172.16.50.2\nState: OK\n\nDate/Time: Sun Jul 19 17:39:53 UTC 2015\n\nAdditional Info:\n\nHTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 661 bytes in 0.064 second response time\n" | /bin/mail -s "** FLAPPINGSTOP Service Alert: Multifunctional/check_http is OK 
[17:45] <knightwise> so if i read it correctly i need to install ....maiL ?
[17:45] <penguin42> knightwise: You need something in there - but I think there are lots of choices to use for mail
[17:47] <diddledan> knightwise: that doesn't say it failed
[17:48] <knightwise> hmm.. "make sure the binary you are trying to execute exsists"
[17:48] <diddledan> where does it say that?
[17:49] <knightwise> Attempting to execute the command "/usr/bin/printf "%b" "***** Nagios *****\n\nNotification Type: FLAPPINGSTOP\n\nService: check_http\nHost: Multifunctional\nAddress: 172.16.50.2\nState: OK\n\nDate/Time: Sun Jul 19 17:39:53 UTC 2015\n\nAdditional Info:\n\nHTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 661 bytes in 0.064 second response time\n" | /bin/mail -s "** FLAPPINGSTOP Service Alert: Multifunctional/check_http is OK **" feedback@knightwise.com" resu
[17:50] <knightwise> at teh bottom
[17:50] <MartijnVdS> resu ?
[17:50] <diddledan> I no see it
[17:50] <shauno> I think you're hitting the max line length, you may want to pastebin instead
[17:50] <knightwise> holdon
[17:51] <shauno> also, mail is /usr/bin/mail on my debian box, you might want to make sure /bin/mail is correct
[17:51] <knightwise> Attempting to execute the command "/usr/bin/printf "%b" "***** Nagios *****\n\nNotification Type: FLAPPINGSTOP\n\nService: check_http\nHost: Multifunctional\nAddress: 172.16.50.2\nState: OK\n\nDate/Time: Sun Jul 19 17:39:53 UTC 2015\n\nAdditional Info:\n\nHTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 661 bytes in 0.064 second response time\n" | /bin/mail -s "** FLAPPINGSTOP Service Alert: Multifunctional/check_http is OK **" feedback@knightwise.com" resu
[17:51] <knightwise> Attempting to execute the command "/usr/bin/printf "%b" "***** Nagios *****\n\nNotification Type: FLAPPINGSTOP\n\nService: check_http\nHost: Multifunctional\nAddress: 172.16.50.2\nState: OK\n\nDate/Time: Sun Jul 19 17:39:53 UTC 2015\n\nAdditional Info:\n\nHTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 661 bytes in 0.064 second response time\n" | /bin/mail -s "** FLAPPINGSTOP Service Alert: Multifunctional/check_http is OK **" feedback@knightwise.com" resu
[17:51] <knightwise> sorry
[17:51] <knightwise> http://paste.debian.net/283909/
[17:51] <knightwise> that is the link to the pastebin
[17:54] <knightwise> shauno: i'm not sure /usr/bin/mail is gonna work in my case . I need to pipe it through an external smtp server .. does that work ?
[17:57] <shauno> it can do .. I think most use mailx for mail these days?  that lets you set smtp server, auth, etc in ~/.mailrc
[17:58] <diddledan> the alternatives system should use whatever you decide
[17:58] <knightwise> I've looked at sendemail too , that also seems to work great. But then i'll need to change the complete "action" line in nagios
[17:58] <diddledan> so you can install a mail server locally if you want to not use mailx
[17:59] <knightwise> diddledan: thats just it. I think my isp blocks outgoing mailservers if its not piped through their smtp server
[17:59] <knightwise> I think
[17:59] <MartijnVdS> that's a common thing
[17:59] <knightwise> but the error i get is that "the script or binary u are trying to use exists"
[17:59] <MartijnVdS> but you can teach /usr/bin/mail to use a smarthost
[17:59] <knightwise> ok , but how do i test that I actually have /usr/bin/mail  ?
[18:00] <diddledan> knightwise: so does the binary exist?
[18:00] <shauno> did you check if you should be using /bin/mail or /usr/bin/mail ?
[18:00] <shauno> your command uses the former, my system only provides the later
[18:00] <knightwise> yep , its there
[18:00] <diddledan> knightwise: there's two programs used in the command: printf and mail
[18:00] <diddledan> so do both exist
[18:00] <knightwise> correct
[18:01] <knightwise> but i don't think i"ve run the setup wizzard to configure mail
[18:01] <MartijnVdS> maybe the thing runs chrooted?
[18:01] <knightwise> no idea actually
[18:02] <shauno> it's just using the wrong path, but I'm talking to a wall  lol
[18:02] <MartijnVdS> knightwise: double-check (and triple-check) those paths.
[18:02] <knightwise> ok
[18:03] <MartijnVdS> exit code 127 is "command not found" so EITHER /bin/mail OR printf isnt found
[18:03] <shauno> it just looks like the difference between /bin and /usr/bin to me
[18:04] <knightwise> ah ! correct
[18:04] <knightwise> its pointing to /bin/mail instead of /usr/bin/mail
[18:04] <knightwise> ok
[18:05] <shauno> once you have that set you can worry about either wrangling sendmail, or using something like ssmtp/msmtp that provide local relays to smarthosts
[18:05] <knightwise> can I make a link that points /bin/mail to /usr/bin/mail ?
[18:05] <diddledan> you shouldn't need to
[18:05] <diddledan> just change nagios config
[18:05] <knightwise> ok , looking for that now
[18:06] <diddledan> there's two commands you need to alter: notify-host-by-email and notify-service-by-email (unless my nagios config is very different)
[18:07] <knightwise> yep , those are in the commands.cfg .. right ?
[18:07] <diddledan> yup
[18:08] <knightwise> ok , i'm gonna dive into this and see what comes out
[18:45] <foobarry> he'll be back in a week.
[18:46] <foobarry> HOW DO I STOP THESE BLASTED NAGIOS EMAILS!
[18:47] <diddledan> lol
[18:47] <zmoylan-pi> ddos from the cloud? it's the only way to be sure? :-p
[18:55] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: use stolen credit cards to launch thousands of vms in amazon's aws and use those to ddos amazon
[18:55] <diddledan> internal ddos ftw
[18:56] <diddledan> "not to be taken internally"
[18:56] <diddledan> don't you love that on some meds
[18:56] <shauno> most of what I've heard with that isn't stolen cards anymore.  it's people accidentally committing their keys to github
[18:59] <penguin42> diddledan: That's obviously impossible; if they ever run out of capacity they just order more hardware off themselves
[18:59] <penguin42> diddledan: and they've probably got themselves a prime subscription so it arrives quickly
[18:59] <diddledan> lol
[19:05] <zmoylan-pi> and it's all running on some ancient vax in someones bedroom that they bought off ebay for a quid... :-)
[19:05] <diddledan> not a PDP11?
[19:06] <penguin42> nah they upgraded when they got big
[19:06] <diddledan> (that's the only really ancient computer name I know of)
[19:06] <zmoylan-pi> i learned to program on a pdp 11
[19:06] <diddledan> \o/
[19:06] <zmoylan-pi> our technical college still didn't have faith in these new fangled pcs...
[19:07] <zmoylan-pi> i learned to type on a commodore pet
[19:07] <diddledan> I think I was in diapers :-p
[19:07] <diddledan> I cut my teeth on the family AMSTRAD PC1512DD
[19:07] <diddledan> SD**
[19:08] <zmoylan-pi> my home computer was a zx spectrum +2.  and proud of it!!
[19:08] <diddledan> we started-off right by getting a pukka x86 :-p
[19:08] <zmoylan-pi> a speccie was about 1/10 the price of a pc then
[19:08] <diddledan> aye
[19:12]  * brobostigon haz his new birthday toy charging, :)
[19:12] <diddledan> brobostigon: what did you get?
[19:12] <zmoylan-pi> cattleprod?
[19:13] <diddledan> ooh
[19:13] <diddledan> fun
[19:13] <brobostigon> diddledan: my gf got me the pebble steel.
[19:13] <diddledan> (ref: bottom with rick mayal)
[19:13] <diddledan> nice
[19:14] <brobostigon> it looks the hotness.
[19:19] <brobostigon> she offered, i accepted, :)
[20:35] <diddledan> knightwise: how you getting on?
[20:41]  * brobostigon is a lucky man, he thinks.
[20:47] <diddledan> brobostigon: well done :-p
[20:47] <diddledan> brobostigon: not only do you have a pebble, but you even have a gf :-p
[20:48] <diddledan> I've not actually seen what those new pebbles are like - I only recall the original model
[20:49] <brobostigon> diddledan: it is the steel version of the original model, not the new time steel, it is simply too expensive.
[20:49] <diddledan> aah
[20:50] <brobostigon> the new basic pebble time is about £159, include var and import tax onto that.
[20:50] <brobostigon> vat*
[20:54] <diddledan> yeah, that's the base price for most of the current-gen wearables I think
[20:55] <diddledan> excepting the apple thingy ofc
[20:56] <brobostigon> so its simply too much, and i am happy, with this upgrade to my original pebble, it is certainly less as certain female friends of mine have put, it less elegant.
[20:57] <brobostigon> and something that looks more like a normal watch, like knightwise's moto 360.
[20:58] <ali1234> my brother bought a neptune pine
[20:58] <shauno> mine's growing on me.  but I have noticed it completely destroys my phone's battery life if I do anything too complicated
[20:59] <ali1234> it's hilarious
[20:59] <diddledan> ali1234: as in a pine-tree from neptune?
[20:59] <ali1234> http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/07/watches-are-now-phones-crazy-times/
[21:00] <diddledan> err
[21:00] <brobostigon> it helps bettery life, now that they are using BT-LE, instead of straight bt.
[21:02] <diddledan> ali1234: that looks terrible
[21:02] <ali1234> it is
[21:02] <diddledan> but as you say, hilarious
[21:03] <ali1234> if you want a really small phone it's quite good
[21:03] <diddledan> lol @ pluggin your headphones into it
[21:04] <diddledan> I want to improve microsoft's hololens by implanting the tech into my eyes
[21:04] <diddledan> or at the least into contact-lenses
[21:05] <diddledan> it's interesting to consider that as a future path when you look at some 90s tv shows that had such a thing
[21:05] <diddledan> or geordi laforge's visor and later eyes
[21:06] <brobostigon>  thats already being worked on, as i understand it.
[21:06] <diddledan> brobostigon: \o/
[21:06] <diddledan> I'll buy one!
[21:06] <brobostigon> :)
[21:06] <diddledan> (or two, depending on my current eyesight at the time of purchase)
[21:07] <diddledan> if both eyes still work it would probably be best to get one for each
[21:08] <diddledan> an interesting tv show currently running has some interesting ideas for near-future tech - it's called continuum
[21:08] <diddledan> I like the story too
[21:08] <brobostigon> a futurologist would be a good job, spend all day thinking about these things.
[21:08] <diddledan> lol
[21:09] <diddledan> futurology as a job sounds like you just state the obvious once-a-year and then go about enjoying retirement the rest of the year
[21:09] <brobostigon> good point.
[21:35] <diddledan> http://sourceforge.net/blog/sourceforge-infrastructure-and-service-restoration/
[21:53] <penguin42> yes, that's fun
[22:09] <zmoylan-pi> i would have described a.c.clarke as a futurologist.  he refers to a metal band worn on the wrist for notifications in book version of 2010
[22:09] <diddledan> nice
[22:10] <diddledan> I've got one of those :-p
[22:10] <diddledan> only 5 years late
[22:10] <zmoylan-pi> well the fossil pda watch was available years ago
[22:11] <zmoylan-pi> and the timex smart watch in 90s
[22:16] <ali1234> brobostigon: there's plenty of money in that if you are any good
[22:17] <brobostigon> ali1234: :)
[22:17] <ali1234> that wasn't a joke btw
[22:28] <ali1234> brobostigon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dARCiWjASBI
[22:40] <diddledan> ali the guy from the 50s mark sounds like mos
[22:40] <diddledan> ali1234: ^^
[22:40] <ali1234> mos?
[22:40] <diddledan> the it crowd
[22:40] <ali1234> lol
[22:41] <diddledan> makes it somewhat humorous to watch when you have him in your mind
[22:42] <ali1234> i don't see it tbh
[22:42] <ali1234> or hear it
[22:42] <ali1234> maybe a bit :)
[22:43] <diddledan> should get richard ayode to do a futurologist video under the guise of mos :-p
[22:45] <ali1234> i'll pass it on :)
[22:47] <diddledan> I tweeted Richard asking for a send-up :-p
[22:49] <ali1234> lol you actually did as well
[22:49] <diddledan> teehee
[22:51] <ali1234> it's moss btw
[22:52] <diddledan> is it
[22:52] <diddledan> oh well
[22:52] <diddledan> twitter: fewer characters ftw :-p
[22:56] <ali1234> kinda suprised you don't recognise ben wood tbh, if you watch a lot of the bbc's tech news you've probably seen him more than once
[22:57] <diddledan> prolly. my memory sucks :-D
[23:03] <ali1234> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33585129
[23:03] <ali1234> i've actually seen shoreditch - it's truly horrible
[23:04] <diddledan> isn't "hipster" a slur?
[23:04] <ali1234> yes, that's why it's funny
[23:04] <diddledan> like "luckily no chavs were injured"
[23:59] <diddledan> oddness. pc just randomly turned off