[00:00] <Andre______> i have the ISO file
[00:00] <Bashing-om> en1gma: K, I do not run Nvidia, so can not test, What returns ' nvidia-settings-rc ' in terminal ?
[00:00] <en1gma> the 340.xx driver which i believe works with bbswitcher freezes when bios set to cpu-gpu
[00:00] <Andre______> where should I put it
[00:00] <EriC^^> Andre______: put it anywhere in the ntfs partition
[00:01] <Andre______> kk I'll make a folder for jt
[00:01] <EriC^^> ok
[00:01] <en1gma> Bashing-om dont have that command ' nvidia-settings-rc '
[00:02] <Andre______> there
[00:02] <en1gma> i had this all working before kind of. i had the area in nvidia-settings that would let me switch from intel power saver and nvidia perfomance
[00:02] <Andre______> now should I reboot my comp to get to grub rescue
[00:02] <en1gma> i think i had to delete or do something with Xorg.conf or something
[00:02] <EriC^^> Andre______: yeah
[00:03] <Andre______> ok
[00:03] <Andre______> in grub rescue
[00:03] <EriC^^> Andre______: crap i think it might not work
[00:03] <Andre______> ?
[00:03] <EriC^^> i think you need the modules that grub uses to read stuff
[00:03] <en1gma> i think what i selected in nvidia-settings was prime now that you mention it
[00:03] <EriC^^> anyways try it i'll check google to see what grub rescue is capable of
[00:04] <Andre______> ok
[00:04] <Andre______> tell me what to do
[00:04] <en1gma> just installed 304.xxx let me reboot. brb
[00:05] <EriC^^> Andre______: wait i have an idea
[00:05] <EriC^^> Andre______: boot the live usb, and hold shift to get grub, then press c to get the grub prompt
[00:05] <SuperLag> So no info on where distro upgrades are logged? because they're not in the history.log in /var/log/apt/
[00:05] <EriC^^> we'll boot the .iso from there, and then install to the usb
[00:06] <SuperLag> I'm afraid this upgrade from 12.04.5 -> 14.04.2 is going to be broken, and I want to fix it.
[00:06] <Andre_________> Ok
[00:06] <Andre_________> Do I presses shift
[00:06] <Andre_________> did nothing
[00:07] <Andre_________> infacr
[00:07] <Andre_________> it started Ubuntu try version
[00:07] <wileee> SuperLag, I see this info on line /var/log/dist-upgrade
[00:07] <EriC^^> Andre_________: ok, in a menu?
[00:07] <Andre_________> uhh
[00:07] <EriC^^> Andre_________: try pressing c
[00:07] <EriC^^> or e
[00:07] <Kully3xf> ok I tried mount -t cifs //10.0.10.1/Movies /mnt -o guest and I got permission denied -- there's no authentication on this
[00:08] <Kully3xf> I can connect from my tv or any windows device with no issue
[00:08] <Andre_________> when I press c
[00:08] <Andre_________> it selects
[00:08] <Andre_________> check disk for defects
[00:08] <Andre_________> e does nothing
[00:08] <wileee> SuperLag, 5th post, you may have already been through these. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1732755
[00:08] <EriC^^> is there anything like edit or command prompt?
[00:09] <Andre_________> i can press tab to edit a menu entry
[00:09] <EriC^^> ok, do you get a bunch of stuff like linux vmlinuz ... etc.
[00:09] <Andre_________> uhh idc
[00:10] <Andre_________> no
[00:11] <SuperLag> wileee: I found that log. I wonder if the occurrences of "half-installed" are indications of something wrong.
[00:12] <EriC^^> Andre_________: let's try grub rescue
[00:12] <Andre_________> ok
[00:12] <Andre_________> im in grub rescue
[00:12] <EriC^^> ok type ls
[00:13] <wileee> SuperLag, I would pastebin what your seeing, you had the disappeared install terminal right?
[00:13] <Andre_________> (hd0) (hd0,msdos1) (hd1) (hd1,msdos1)
[00:13] <Andre_________> is what it printed
[00:13] <Andre_________> when I did ls
[00:13] <ExecSlim> Kully3xf, this is a shot in the dark but could you create a dir in /mnt (like /mnt/cifs_vol) and then try it again?
[00:13] <ExecSlim> (changing your command of course)
[00:14] <EriC^^> Andre_________: ok, type ls (hd0,msdos1)/
[00:14] <SuperLag> wileee: the do-release-upgrade output initially told me that since I'm doing this over SSH, it was going to open another session on a different port. And I connected to a session on that port, as well. No issues with the first session, though. I'm just copying out errors that come up as it progresses through the upgrade, in case I need to address them later.
[00:14] <Kully3xf> ExecSlim: permission denied
[00:14] <Andre_________> error: unknown filesystem.
[00:14] <Kully3xf> I don't get why it's asking for a password - it's clientless
[00:15] <Kully3xf> it's just an external hdd plugged in VIA usb to my router
[00:15] <SuperLag> wileee: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3zelh14hwfy2p0k/Screenshot%202015-07-18%2017.14.43.png?dl=0
[00:15] <EriC^^> Andre_________: try ls (hd1,msdos1)/
[00:15] <wileee> SuperLag, Makes sense.
[00:15] <Andre_________> same error
[00:16] <SuperLag> wileee: I love tmux.
[00:16] <EriC^^> Andre_________: try insmod part_msdos
[00:16] <raymondillo>  /quit
[00:16] <Andre_________> nothing happened
[00:17] <EriC^^> ok, try insmod ntfs
[00:17] <Andre_________> error: unknown file system
[00:17] <SuperLag> EriC^^: it might be ntfs-3g
[00:17] <SuperLag> something like that
[00:17] <EriC^^> Andre_________: try insmod ntfs-3g
[00:17] <EriC^^> SuperLag: thanks
[00:18] <Andre_________> same error
[00:18] <Andre_________> maybe its part_msdos
[00:18] <Andre_________> because that didn't error
[00:18] <EriC^^> try ls -l
[00:18] <wileee> SuperLag, looks good in that screenshot.
[00:18] <EriC^^> can you tell which is the usb and which is the disk?
[00:18] <Andre_________> error: unknown file system
[00:19] <EriC^^> Andre_________: try insmod normal
[00:19] <Andre_________> error unknown filesystem
[00:21] <EriC^^> Andre_________: where did you put the iso?
[00:22] <Andre_________> In installUbuntu/some name.iso
[00:24] <OneM_Industries> Anyone know how to repair a video file where the camera shut off before the file was closed?
[00:25] <OneM_Industries> There is a file, but VLC cannot read it.
[00:25] <Dragonkeeper> simple method ... can u open it in kdenlive then just export it to what ever format you want
[00:25] <EriC^^> Andre_________: ls (hd0,msdos1)/ still doesn't work right?
[00:26] <Andre_________> nope
[00:27] <Andre_________> gtg for 5 mins
[00:28] <EriC^^> ok
[00:28] <Andre_________> Back
[00:28] <Andre_________> il
[00:28] <Andre_________> lol fast five mjnd
[00:28] <EriC^^> :D
[00:30] <Andre_________> what should I do
[00:30] <EriC^^> i was thinking if we could use the live usb
[00:31] <EriC^^> if we could put line breaks in that line they let you edit it could work
[00:32] <ki7rw> i just ordered cyberghost vpn but the webpage prompts don't match the faq - for example, the faq says that i need to specify linux and openvpn but  no boxes appear for them - i was under the impression that i can d/l the software but that option isn't given either - doesn't look i can send them an e-mail unless i pay for premium support
[00:32] <EriC^^> sort of like inject the stuff we want
[00:33] <Andre_________> yeah
[00:33] <EriC^^> does anybody have any idea about what grub uses for that? like insmod something; insmod something;
[00:33] <Andre_________> should I get to that menu
[00:33] <EriC^^> what does grub use instead of ";" to allow you to write something else on the same line?
[00:34] <EriC^^> Andre_________: yeah
[00:34] <Dragonkeeper> prob depemnds what grub version you use
[00:36] <OneM_Industries> Ok, kdenlive did not work.
[00:36] <zylex> sup everyone?
[00:37] <Dragonkeeper> lights
[00:37] <zylex> could someone help me out with starting a seperate X session?
[00:37] <EriC^^> Dragonkeeper: what is ";" called usually?
[00:37] <OneM_Industries> What happened is that the camera was jostled, and the chip became unseated before it could close the file.
[00:37] <EriC^^> i mean the technical term for it
[00:37] <Dragonkeeper> semi colon  EriC^^
[00:38] <OneM_Industries> I need some way of doing data recovery on this file.
[00:38] <EriC^^> no, i mean like line breaker or ..?
[00:38] <Dragonkeeper> EriC^^: i guess so ..  it works in grub 2
[00:38] <EriC^^> Dragonkeeper: ";" works in grub2?
[00:38] <Kully3xf> I figured it out - I had to provide the router admin credentials
[00:39] <Kully3xf> no idea why that is necessary in ubuntu and literally no where else - but it is.
[00:39] <EriC^^> Dragonkeeper: ok cool
[00:39] <Dragonkeeper> EriC^^:  in the cfg file .. yes
[00:39] <AXENT> Maybe a fun break from all the programing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq2j7-rZ9Hc , Hot babe included!
[00:39] <EriC^^> Dragonkeeper: any idea about syslinux?
[00:39] <rtreleaven> Kully3xf looks like a samba share
[00:40] <Dragonkeeper> EriC^^: maybe  im not 100% on that
[00:40] <EriC^^> Dragonkeeper: ok, thanks!
[00:40] <EriC^^> Andre_________: you there?
[00:40] <Andre_________> Yeah
[00:41] <EriC^^> crap we need the name of the .iso
[00:41] <EriC^^> what ubuntu did you download?
[00:41] <Andre_________> Uhh
[00:41] <Andre_________> shiukd I launch Ubuntu and chexk
[00:42] <EriC^^> ok, cool
[00:42] <SchrodingersScat> !spam > AXENT
[00:46] <Andre_________> ubuntu is taking longer than usual to start
[00:49] <Andre_________> Uhh
[00:49] <Andre_________> idk if Ubuntu is starting up
[00:51] <EriC^^> hmm
[00:51] <EriC^^> try pressing esc
[00:51] <Andre_________> uhh
[00:52] <Andre_________> LOTS OF ERRORS
[00:53] <EriC^^> Andre_________: do you have another usb?
[00:53] <vevais> Oy
[00:53] <Andre_________> uhh
[00:53] <Andre_________> no
[00:53] <Andre_________> ubuntu isn't doing shit
[00:53] <EriC^^> ok, try rebooting it
[00:54] <Andre_________> kk
[00:55] <Andre_________> nope.
[00:55] <Andre_________> not working
[00:55] <EriC^^> do you have a windows cd?
[00:55] <Andre_________> no
[00:56] <Jackboy> Hey guys. Trying to restart mysql at the moment but getting Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' despite stopping mysql service.
[00:56] <Jackboy> Any ideas? I have mysqld and mysqld_safe processes running still :S
[00:58] <RackerJack> kill -9
[00:59] <Andre_________> lol
[00:59] <Jackboy> RackerJack: Okay buddy, I was just worried it would delete databases for some strange reason...
[00:59] <Andre_________> ny poor computer is going thru so much
[01:01] <Jackboy> RackerJack: Oh my fuck, thank you!
[01:03] <Jackboy> RackerJack: You don't realise how that simple answer helped me hugely, saved my ass, thank you very much my friend! :)
[01:04] <OneM_Industries> Any idea on how to recreate the headers for a .mp4 video?
[01:04] <OneM_Industries> recreate/recover
[01:05] <OneM_Industries> They appear to be fried.
[01:05] <ZeloZelos> OneM_Industries, the header? does it play in vlc?
[01:06] <EriC^^> Andre_________: what errors does it the live usb say?
[01:06] <OneM_Industries> No, VLC will not play it.
[01:06] <ZeloZelos> OneM_Industries, what does vlc say?
[01:07] <OneM_Industries> it just does not play, no error logs.
[01:08] <ZeloZelos> try a video editor to see if the info is actually in the file
[01:09] <pauljw> OneM_Industries, try running vlc in a terminal and see if it gives error messages
[01:09] <OneM_Industries> Okay, it does.
[01:09] <OneM_Industries> http://pastebin.com/t01fNQCP
[01:11] <ZeloZelos> try updating Libav, i think it'saying an error with aac
[01:13] <Andre_________> Gtg
[01:14] <EriC^^> ok
[01:17] <SuperLag> wileee: errors that scare me in this upgrade "foo: dependency problems, but removing anyway, as you requested."
[01:17] <OneM_Industries> Hm, Libav says it is up to date.
[01:19] <OneM_Industries> I think the problem is that the headers are scrambled.
[01:19] <OneM_Industries> But I have no idea how to fix that.
[01:20] <pauljw> OneM_Industries, it could be like the error message says, an unsupported feature in the file.
[01:20] <OneM_Industries> Hm.
[01:21] <OneM_Industries> Odd thing is, the other parts of this video played fine.
[01:21] <OneM_Industries> This one was the final, abruptly cut short video clip.
[01:21] <pauljw> OneM_Industries, can you try an alternate video player?
[01:21] <OneM_Industries> Like what?
[01:22] <pauljw> ??  don't know, look in software center...
[01:25] <OneM_Industries> Ok, installing one now.
[01:25] <pauljw> OneM_Industries, listed as videos in software center, is actually totem...
[01:25] <OneM_Industries> Ok.
[01:28] <OneM_Industries> Nope, Kaffeine will not play it.
[01:29] <wileee> SuperLag, Not sure what I've requested.
[01:29] <wileee> 3rd party repos would be guess on topic
[01:30] <OneM_Industries> Short of a data recovery place, what are my options?
[01:30] <pauljw> OneM_Industries, do you have other videos that these players play okay?  if so, it has to be the file, not the player.
[01:30] <OneM_Industries> I know it is the file....
[01:30] <OneM_Industries> I have said that all along.
[01:30] <pauljw> okay
[01:31] <pauljw> didn't see that part of your conversation
[01:31] <OneM_Industries> Ok.
[01:31] <pauljw> i don't know of a solution for a corrupt file, sorry
[01:31] <OneM_Industries> Bother.
[01:31] <pauljw> search google?
[01:31] <OneM_Industries> This is video from a nearspace balloon, and the final clip shows the landing.
[01:32] <OneM_Industries> That was step #1.
[01:32] <pauljw> oh man, that stinks
[01:32] <OneM_Industries> Yeah.
[01:32] <OneM_Industries> The parachute failed, and it came in at twice the speed we wanted.
[01:32] <zzo38> I have a "COOLMAX" device to connect IDE hard drive to USB.
[01:32] <zzo38> When I try to mount it, it says cannot read superblock
[01:33] <OneM_Industries> It hit so hard that it knocked the chip out of the socket.
[01:33] <pauljw> ouch
[01:33] <OneM_Industries> And it scrambled the last file.
[01:33] <OneM_Industries> Thus, me trying to fix it.
[01:33] <pauljw> wish i could help, good luck
[01:33] <zzo38> I need to recover the files from these disk!
[01:33] <OneM_Industries> Thank you anyway!
[01:33] <pauljw> np
[01:34] <OneM_Industries> zzo38: get an old mobo with IDE and SATA ports.
[01:34] <OneM_Industries> Dirt cheap on ebay.
[01:34] <wileee> zzo38, Is the HD readable from a live?
[01:34] <zzo38> I can't
[01:35] <zzo38> The HD is readable when I try to boot from it, although it won't boot because the hardware configuration is wrong
[01:35] <zzo38> But that is a different computer I tried
[01:35] <wileee> zzo38, Why would you just not use a live ubuntu to get those files?
[01:36] <zzo38> I told you, it doesn't work with a Live Ubuntu either
[01:36] <wileee> zzo38, Your not using nics.
[01:37] <wileee> hard to tell whom your talking to.
[01:37] <SuperLag> wileee: but 3rd-party repos get disabled prior to upgrade beginning
[01:37] <wileee> SuperLag, I'm just trying to figure out what I requested.
[01:38] <zzo38> It doesn't work. Did I do something wrong?
[01:38] <SuperLag> wileee: that's the text of the error message
[01:38] <wileee> !who | zzo38 I mean this
[01:39] <zzo38> Also how do I prevent it from displaying kernel messages and overwriting my work? The command "sudo dmesg -D" seem to fix it but  it only work for the current session.
[01:39] <wileee> SuperLag, Ah, heh my bad, carry on. ;)
[01:39] <DoYouKnow> in linux do you use sync to flush changes to disk?
[01:40] <DoYouKnow> the "sync" command
[01:40] <zzo38> Also how do I change the default console font? I want the standard PC font, and I want to change the lo system locale to "C" locale.
[01:40] <DoYouKnow> or is there something better to use?
[01:44] <zzo38> I have several question but you can't answer it?
[01:46] <zzo38> How to change the system locale and the console font?
[01:46] <zzo38> (permanently)
[01:46] <Zix> is it possible to change the color/brightness of the default scrollbar/scrollbar background?
[01:47] <Zix> I should note I have the weird up-and-down-arrow button disabled
[01:47] <Zix> I have this one: http://i.imgur.com/pFIt1mq.png
[01:47] <OerHeks> zzo38,  changing font is easy, see http://askubuntu.com/a/173221
[01:48] <OerHeks> zzoand your locales, can be set from systemsettings
[01:48] <Zix> I just would like the background to maybe be a bit darker, since I am having a bit of trouble uh.. finding the scrollbar
[01:49] <wileee> Zix, This an theme install edit?
[01:49] <Zix> wileee: I don't think it's a theme
[01:50] <wileee> I see what you mean though
[01:50] <Zix> A few days ago I had found out how to disable the normal scrollbar via terminal
[01:50] <Zix> maybe it's a theme, dunno
[01:50] <wileee> Zix, What I wondered is what you've might have changed, yeah I do the same diable.
[01:50] <Zix> ah
[01:50] <wileee> disable*
[01:51] <OerHeks> changing colour, maybe ubuntu-tweak or unity-tweak-tool can do that?
[01:51] <Zix> Ooo ok
[01:51] <Zix> Thanks
[01:52] <wileee> Zix, I actually remove the packages rather than disable is all.
[01:52] <Zix> ah
[01:52] <wileee> I foo it when needed, I can't remember the command or app name
[01:55] <wileee> apt-get remove or purge I meant the app
[02:01] <LarryB> hello
[02:01] <LarryB> anyone smarter than I?
[02:01] <LarryB> I can ping my tother devices but can't ping the router IP
[02:01] <LarryB> also can't get brower to work
[02:01] <wileee> what's 2+2
[02:02] <LarryB> 2+2=100 BIN
[02:02] <wileee> sorry not smarter here
[02:02] <wileee> I'm quite sure
[02:04] <guest0721_> why is the flashplugin-installer in the ubuntu repositories so out of date when derivatives have up-to-date versions
[02:04] <wileee> guest0721_, adobe does not support flash in linux
[02:05] <guest0721_> no, google does through adobe
[02:05] <alonzooo> cc plz
[02:05] <wileee> not through but yeah we all know pepperflash
[02:06] <wileee> you can use it on any browser I believe
[02:07] <guest0721_> the 14.04 based derivatives all have 11.2.202.491,  ubuntu proper only has 11.2.202.442 which firefox blocks because it s unsafe
[02:08] <guest0721_> I will not use chrome
[02:08] <pauljw> LarryB, not sure why your browser isn't working, but your router may be configured to ignore pings.  My Netgear ignores by default, have to chg config to allow.
[02:08] <wileee> guest0721_, old news check the web. do you have a support issue?
[02:08] <xangua> you will not use chrome because it has closed source components┬┐
[02:08] <OerHeks> guest0721_, wrong, ubuntu is updated to *.491 too ... besides flash is dead
[02:08] <guest0721_> well, it would be nice if ubuntu kept their repositories as up-to-date as derivatives
[02:08] <OerHeks> guest0721_, update please.
[02:09] <guest0721_> well I can't access the websites I need to access for work and I hope you aren;t telling me to go back to windows which I haven't used since the mid 1990s
[02:09] <wileee> hmm derivatives would be using the ubuntu repos many times
[02:10] <guest0721_> all I know is the only machines I have that dont have the most recent version in the repositories are my ubuntu machines, mint rafaela etc. are up-to-date
[02:10] <guest0721_> which means that about 80% of the websites I need to visit are inaccessible
[02:10] <OerHeks> guest0721_, stop your rant. prove that you are wrong > http://imgur.com/Yg3OzJi
[02:10] <guest0721_> unless I kee doing tarball installs
[02:11] <guest0721_> look for yourelf
[02:11] <guest0721_> you have access to repository data I assume
[02:11] <guest0721_> try using firefox to visit some website
[02:11] <OerHeks> no, just regular updates
[02:11] <alonzooo> cc plz
[02:12] <OerHeks> guest0721_, i leave you to it, good luck
[02:12] <OerHeks> alonzooo, cc ?
[02:12] <guest0721_> it will probably redirect you to a page that will detect your version number and that will redirect you to one with the correct version tarballs
[02:13] <guest0721_> at one point mint got behind.  it was mentioned on their irc site and the reactio was thanking the messenger and immediately fixing it.  I am beginning to think maybe mint is better.
[02:13] <squinty> guest0721_,  never happened here.  firefox is my main browser
[02:13] <guest0721_> what version of the flashplugin do you have?
[02:15] <SuperLag> wileee: I'm starting to think that you *cannot* cleanly upgrade between distros, even LTS versions. :( https://www.dropbox.com/s/0hgoz3s0xlvit25/Screenshot%202015-07-18%2019.14.48.png?dl=0
[02:15] <squinty> guest0721_,  latest that is posted on the abobe flash site but I recieved it through ubuntu update repo
[02:15] <xangua> 11.2.202.491 as you said earlier guest0721_, have you recently open your update manager?
[02:16] <guest0721_> try going here:  https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/?utm_source=firefox-browser&utm_medium=firefox-browser&utm_campaign=plugincheck-update
[02:16] <squinty> firefox should not be blocking flash if you have done current update
[02:17] <guest0721_> well after doing an update the r epositories say that the latest they have is the one mentioned above
[02:17] <OerHeks> squinty, it does with me, only with a new session
[02:17] <OerHeks> once accepted, the rest of the session goes without warning
[02:18] <wileee> SuperLag, I see 3rd parties there. Even if you turn off these repos you still have a modified system outside the repos, this is a gamble on upgrades.
[02:18] <squinty> adobe flash test site provides no warning here.  current (as per their web page) works with their test page
[02:18] <guest0721_> sure i can do tarball updates if you insist, just mentioning that the repositories are behind.   What a difference between the reaction at mint upon being informed and that here.  Amazing
[02:18] <squinty> anyways have to go...  "-)
[02:19] <guest0721_> well the warning is because it is an unsafe version of the flashplugin.
[02:19] <cfhowlett> guest0721_, feel free to use Mint if that's your preference.  rants is counterproductive and demotivating.
[02:19] <OerHeks> guest0721_, so you run mint, hmm?
[02:20] <guest0721_> on one machine I run mint.  when they get behind on something important in the repositories and are informed of it the reaction is thanks and a rather rapid fix not attacking the messenger
[02:20] <cfhowlett> guest0721_, yes, not you're repeating yourself.  time to move on to a new topic
[02:20] <wileee> SuperLag, I never upgrade though I can fresh install identically in less than 25% of the time on an upgrade.
[02:21] <guest0721_> unitl this visit here, I actually preferred ubuntu.  this is worse than the rtfm of the earliest days of linux.
[02:21] <gnomed_> Text in terminal is not ok, I mean it looks mixed/unsorted. Some characters stick to each other What to do?
[02:22] <OerHeks> gnomed_, go into terminal settings, and change font size?
[02:22] <gnomed_> ok
[02:22] <LarryB> that was not fun. don't knwo what I dod to ficx it
[02:22] <cfhowlett> gnomed_, ONLY in the terminal?
[02:22] <LarryB> anyone having similar network issue sorrry, they'll be on tehrio own
[02:22] <gnomed_> cfhowlett,  yes
[02:22] <LarryB> I like its fixerd but wish i knew why
[02:22] <guest0721_> I never would have mentioned it if I hadn't seen the mint reaction.  Never in a million years would I have expected being attacked for the feedback appreciated everywhere else.
[02:23] <gnomed_> OerHeks,  There is one option enabled which states use system width fonts. Should I disable that?
[02:24] <guest0721_> I have other machines and x2go so it doesn't bother me, but there are a lot of people (mostly those who are new to linux and find tarball installs difficult) essentially cut off from most of the websites they need.
[02:24] <OerHeks> we appreciate your feedback, and the chance to say you are wrong, as ubuntu updated to *491 too.
[02:24] <guest0721_> I did the update less than 10 minutes ago, I'll do another now and see if it has changed though
[02:25] <OerHeks> come back with a screenshot please
[02:25] <gnomed_> OerHeks,  Thanks. Bringing changes in terminal font settings solved problem.
[02:26] <OerHeks> gnomed_, nice, have fun !
[02:26] <gnomed_> Any freecad user here?
[02:27] <guest0721_> still says 442
[02:27] <guest0721_> where do you want the screenshot sent?
[02:27] <guest0721_> or are you talking to someone else
[02:28] <OerHeks> imgur.com or picpaste.com
[02:28] <xangua> please show the output of: cat /etc/issue  , also the output of sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:28] <OerHeks> but you have seen mine, and i have no reason to fool anyone.
[02:29] <xangua> also make sure you are using the Main repository, sometimes the Country ones are behind
[02:29] <OerHeks> that could be it, but it is a high level fix ..
[02:30] <guest0721_> frankly, I'm not here to prove anything and it is easy enough for anyone else to check it.  I have wasted enough time here already.
[02:30] <gnomed_> when i search wine in terminal, two packages are listed. One is metapackage and other is simply wine. Which should I install?
[02:30] <guest0721_> I guess if anyone ever cares it will be fixed.
[02:31] <OerHeks> gnomed_, choose the metapackage
[02:31] <wileee> lol mint derivative uses the Ubuntu repos
[02:31] <gnomed_> ok OerHeks . But whats the difference between both these? just for knowledge
[02:32] <OerHeks> gnomed_, metapackages add a lot of stuff, like winetricks and fonts and such
[02:32] <gnomed_> ok. thanks a lot
[02:39] <depto> hi
[02:39] <lcmemusic> hello?
[02:39] <depto> andreas33
[02:40] <depto> hi
[02:40] <depto> hi
[02:40] <lcmemusic> I'm a newb to Linux
[02:40] <depto> we are you from
[02:40] <depto> yes
[02:40] <depto> i new
[02:40] <lcmemusic> Virginia
[02:40] <lcmemusic> USA
[02:41] <depto> good
[02:41] <OerHeks> Hello there, do you have a ubuntu support question ?
[02:41] <lcmemusic> yes I do!
[02:41] <depto> me too
[02:42] <lcmemusic> I have a system with 2 ews88mt sound cards, and I'm trying to use Ubuntu Studio 14.04, and I can not get any sound out of the system...
[02:43] <lcmemusic> If I run the AVLinux version, I can get the sound to come up, but I can't get the monitors (I have 2) to dual screen side by side.
[02:44] <bazhang> !studio | lcmemusic
[02:44] <lcmemusic> AV Linux wants to configure them them one on top of the other; which is kind of annoying.
[02:44] <OerHeks> good start for multiple soundcards > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=922860
[02:44] <OerHeks> AV linux ??
[02:45] <lcmemusic> I've already got Ubuntu Studio installed on my computer.
[02:45] <OerHeks> lcmemusic, see that url, i think you can work it out
[02:46] <lcmemusic> AVLinux is another Linux distro that is setup for audio and video production.
[02:46] <bazhang> join #ubuntustudio <--- lcmemusic
[02:46] <OerHeks> normally ubuntu would detect them both, not sure why not in your case
[02:47] <lcmemusic> It detects them; I get no sound!
[02:47] <OerHeks> yeah, #ubuntu-studio is great .. unless they are all on a gig
[02:47] <lcmemusic> huh?
[02:48] <bazhang> lcmemusic, its a channel specifically for ubuntu studio
[02:48] <bazhang>  /join #ubuntustudio lcmemusic
[02:48] <lcmemusic> I'll check it out. Thanks.
[02:48] <bazhang> np
[02:54] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[02:54] <CountryfiedLinux> Virtualbox failure here. http://pastebin.com/s85aQe29 Any suggestions?
[02:58] <OerHeks> CountryfiedLinux, hard to say what happened, what guest OS? maybe #virtualbox is a place to ask also.
[02:58] <bazhang> #vbox is the channel iirc
[02:59] <OerHeks> indeed! but i noticed #virtualbox brings me to #vbox :-D
[02:59] <bazhang> oh nice
[03:04] <pauljw> CountryfiedLinux, try this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1198060
[03:05] <OerHeks> nice find, pauljw
[03:05] <pauljw> :)
[03:07] <CountryfiedLinux> pauljw: Stuck here sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[03:07] <CountryfiedLinux> sudo: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: command not found
[03:08] <OerHeks> hmm i don't have that file either
[03:09] <pauljw> hmm
[03:12] <SchrodingersScat> CountryfiedLinux: odd, that came with my virtualbox afaik
[03:15] <OerHeks> i read a lot of solutions, like this: copy VirtualBox.xml-prev over .VirtualBox.xml as th xml seems not valid <> http://askubuntu.com/questions/217972/virtualbox-does-not-run-ns-error-failure
[03:16] <lcmemusic> If I can't get an answer for my Ubuntu Studio problem, then could someone tell me how to fix the video monitor issue I have with AVLinux?
[03:17] <OerHeks> We do not support AV linux, even it is a debian derivate.
[03:19] <bazhang> he left
[03:19] <easyOnMe> W: Failed to fetch http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[03:19] <easyOnMe> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:19] <easyOnMe> how can I solve this
[03:20] <OerHeks> easyOnMe, try changing the mirror to main
[03:21] <easyOnMe> OerHeks: where do I do that on the terminal or on the software settings
[03:21] <easyOnMe> I mean system settings
[03:21] <OerHeks> softwarecenter > edit > sources
[03:22] <easyOnMe> ok clear will do thank you OerHeks
[03:45] <cre8torx> hello
[03:49] <pauljw> CountryfiedLinux, been looking for solutions.  found this which is newer, 2013 vs 2009.  http://wpdevplus.com/virtualbox-ns_error_failure-0x80004005/
[03:53] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I print specific emails from command line? (and also check for new emails all the time?) basically I have a gmail account and I want to be able to print automatically all receiving emails with specific subject.
[03:54] <notaeon> mojtaba: why not just have a dedicated account for this? or configure gmail to sort these emails to a folder and only print that folder?
[03:55] <CountryfiedLinux> I'll try that thanks pauljw
[03:55] <pauljw> let me know what happens
[03:56] <easyOnMe> how to I find some channels like symfony or its variants
[03:56] <cfhowlett> !alis | easyOnMe
[03:56] <easyOnMe> what do command should I use
[03:56] <easyOnMe> alis
[03:56] <mojtaba> notaeon: I want to use IMAP
[03:58] <easyOnMe> that is wrong I do not get the correct response when I use this command /msg alis list #codeigniter*
[03:59] <somsip> !alis | easyOnMe
[04:01] <easyOnMe> what is the command to use my registered account to that i can channels for registered nicks
[04:01] <easyOnMe> thanks
[04:01] <somsip> !register | easyOnMe
[04:02] <somsip> easyOnMe: both factoids suggest asking in #freenode about IRC services
[04:02] <CountryfiedLinux> pauljw: Following the tutorial and just removed the extension. Went to the link of old builds and the newest old build is 13.04 and I'm on 14.04.
[04:02] <Kramerboy> Is it safe to remove ProFTPd through apt-get while users are logged in? I seemed to have done this while I was uploading a file to my FTP server
[04:04] <somsip> Kramerboy: probably best to stop the service first
[04:04] <notaeon> Kramerboy: safe? probably not, but it will keep running whatever is available in the ram for the time being. I don't think it will be long until a lot of errors are thrown up
[04:04] <pauljw> hmmm CountryfiedLinux most confusing...
[04:05] <Kramerboy> Well I have restarted the server after removing it
[04:06] <Kramerboy> But I did see the service being stopped after I entered the sudo command to remove it
[04:08] <CountryfiedLinux> pauljw: I'm gonna try these year older extension packs anyway and see what happens :P
[04:09] <CountryfiedLinux> Uh, Gdebi says it will break virtualbox o_O
[04:09] <pauljw> what ver of vbox are you running?
[04:09] <CountryfiedLinux> 3.4 I think lemme check
[04:09] <CountryfiedLinux> 4.3.10
[04:10] <pauljw> same here, maybe go the download page and select the next earlier one from the list. 4.2.32
[04:11] <CountryfiedLinux> pauljw: I'm gonna try this http://www.itworld.com/article/2696773/install-virtualbox-4-3-14-in-linux-mint-17.html
[04:11] <CountryfiedLinux> pauljw: Where do I get 4.2.32 in case this doesn't work?
[04:12] <pauljw> CountryfiedLinux, from the link in that last article, click on downloads and there are links on that page for the extension files.
[04:13] <pauljw> CountryfiedLinux,  https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[04:13] <CountryfiedLinux> ok thanks pauljw
[04:13] <CountryfiedLinux> brb
[04:15] <CountryfiedLinux> This may be a tutorial video in the works :)
[04:17] <pauljw> lol
[04:19] <pauljw> CountryfiedLinux, you can get the one you just deleted here:  http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.3.10/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.3.10-93012.vbox-extpack
[04:20] <CountryfiedLinux> ok thanks pauljw if this tutorial vails then I'll go straight to that link.
[04:20] <pauljw> ok
[04:30] <pauljw> CountryfiedLinux, I'm afraid that I'm gonna have to leave you.  Hopefully you can at least get back to where you were and not be worse off than when we started.  I have to get to bed.  Good luck, keep searching, the answer has to be out there.  I have the same setup as you and mine is working fine.
[04:31] <CountryfiedLinux> ok thanks pauljw I'm just about to try that.
[04:31] <pauljw> ok, I'll hang out for a few
[04:33] <CountryfiedLinux> pauljw: That tutorial I did for compiling the newer version worked :) Well not entirely but after I did the tutorial I then installed virtualbox the same way I did before and voila!
[04:33] <CountryfiedLinux> Thanks for your help pauljw
[04:34] <pauljw> np, glad you got it worked out
[04:34] <pauljw> gnite
[04:34] <CountryfiedLinux> goodnight buddy :)
[04:34] <pauljw> :)
[04:34] <madebymarkca> All the info I have found on ifenslave uses static ips is it possible to use a dynamic ip?
[04:35] <madebymarkca> want to bind my eth0 and wlan0 so when I unplug from eth0 at home I don't drop connections
[04:36] <madebymarkca> would prefer to use a dynamic ip assigned by my router for the bond0 ip if possible
[04:39] <cre8torx> night
[04:42] <madebymarkca> night
[04:52] <roracle> hey guys and gals:  i just set up humhub on my server but users cannot upload to it (the default user can because of setup etc).  What am I missing here?  (mind you this isn't about humhub, it's "user cannot upload to web directory that should be uploadable")
[04:53] <roracle> Honestly I think it's the permissions, but I followed the instructions to the T and yet still have this problem.
[05:02] <lastdaysofgravit> i am a noob at this linux stuff.  I have been searching everywhere on how to install libimobiledevice-1.2.0.    I have tried all sorts of command prompt methods and have yet to succeed.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[05:03] <lastdaysofgravit> i can't sync my iphone with ubuntu
[05:04] <OerHeks> !info libimobiledevice
[05:05] <OerHeks> !find libimobiledevice4
[05:06] <OerHeks> lastdaysofgravit, install libimobiledevice4 i guess
[05:06] <lastdaysofgravit> synaptic only has the older version
[05:06] <OerHeks> 1.1.6
[05:06] <lastdaysofgravit> yep
[05:06] <lastdaysofgravit> the newer version, 1.2 supports my device but i don't know how to do that without synaptic
[05:07] <OerHeks> according to this post, you will need to build it yourself http://askubuntu.com/questions/598940/libimobiledevice-1-2-ios-8-support-for-ubuntu-14-04-trusty
[05:08] <lastdaysofgravit> yep, i've been on that page and i did exactly as it says but it failed
[05:09] <lastdaysofgravit> :-/
[05:10] <twoTwo> what are you trying to do, lastdays?
[05:10] <lastdaysofgravit> i am trying to install the new version of libimobiledevice so i can sync the music on my iphone from my computer
[05:11] <OerHeks> lastdaysofgravit, i see, there are bug in that build script, nobody solved it yet
[05:11] <lastdaysofgravit> the version in synaptic is not current and does not support my device
[05:11] <OerHeks> *bugs
[05:11] <lastdaysofgravit> i see, just searching for answers
[05:11] <roracle> I have an issue with getting my http upload directory working.  It SHOULD work but isn't.  i have it set to www-data and 777 via command line like every website says to, but users cannot upload images.
[05:12] <roracle> as the default user i can upload, but no new users can
[05:12] <OerHeks> ouch 777 ... those websites should be burned !
[05:12] <twoTwo> hehe :3
[05:12] <roracle> well one said 775
[05:13] <roracle> but most said 777 so i figured i was doing it right
[05:13] <b1n4ry> Hello! I removed nagios from my system (using package manager), but I noticed that it has not been removed from the init and rc directories and there is an attempt to start nagios daemon on boot up. What is the reason for this behaviour?
[05:14] <roracle> OerHeks: should the upload directory not be 777?
[05:15] <OerHeks> if you want guests upload change and execute things, yes.
[05:15] <OerHeks> but 777 is normally not done.
[05:16] <roracle> that's what i have it set to, but users cannot upload images
[05:16] <madebymarkca> 777 is read write for all users
[05:16] <madebymarkca> so no
[05:16] <roracle> every upload it says "0kb"
[05:17] <lastdaysofgravit> anways thanks, i'll trying asking on the ask ubuntu site
[05:19] <OerHeks> roracle, you might tell us more about your situation, http upload, how/what configuration?
[05:20] <madebymarkca> *read write and execute
[05:20] <madebymarkca> https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Chmod
[05:20] <roracle> OerHeks: sorry.  yeah i just set it up like a normal server, ran through the Humhub install instructions (as I said) and things worked fine on my end so I assumed they would work on other ends, too
[05:21] <roracle> but when a friend signed up and posted an image, it said the upload was 0kb
[05:21] <roracle> also didn't post the image at all, but i don't think that needs be said :P
[05:23] <kro2488> im still a linux noob so i have a very basic question
[05:23] <kro2488> : let's say im on a public wifi hotspot something like that, on windows you have a setting you can make it to where your device isn't visible to others on the network
[05:23] <kro2488> whats the best way to do that when your on a linux distro like ubuntu?
[05:24] <kro2488> I don't get on public wifi or wifi that's not my own very much but i just wondered
[05:24] <OerHeks> roracle, i never tried humhub, does the manual give any clue? https://github.com/humhub/humhub/blob/master/README.md
[05:24] <roracle> OerHeks: i went through that manual step by step.
[05:24] <OerHeks> especially the installation guide https://github.com/humhub/humhub/blob/master/protected/docs/guide/administration/installation.md
[05:25] <kro2488> im learning so much about linux still but im never going back to windows
[05:26] <roracle> kro2488: you will go back to windows.  Linux is awesome, yes, but Windows is a fact of life we all deal with at some point. ;)
[05:26] <kro2488> no i wont
[05:26] <kro2488> i only use it at work
[05:27] <kro2488> on my own computers
[05:27] <kro2488> i wont even let it boot into windows once anymore
[05:27] <kro2488> ill nuke it right when i get it
[05:27] <roracle> lol, that's one way of doing it.  as a gamer i can't help it, still need windows
[05:27] <kro2488> ya i don't pc game
[05:27] <kro2488> i use console
[05:27] <kro2488> did you see my question though?
[05:28] <kro2488> like if i was on a public wifi hotspot when i used to be in windows id have it set so file share and discovery by others was off so they couldn't see my computer on the network map
[05:28] <kro2488> how do you do that in ubuntu?
[05:28] <twoTwo> as far as I know, the windows service that does that only works with other windows comps
[05:29] <kro2488> or as l ong as you have incoming connections set to deny or reject
[05:29] <kro2488> it doesnt matter?
[05:29] <twoTwo> so if you're not using windows you're already fine
[05:29] <OerHeks> i think it is an option in networkmanager, when you create a wifi connection, hide ssid
[05:29] <kro2488> yeah i was thinking that too
[05:29] <kro2488> but i was just checking
[05:29] <madebymarkca> if you want to be extra safe you can use iptables
[05:29] <kro2488> what would be the best rules for that?
[05:29] <kro2488> just the basic ones?
[05:29] <kro2488> or make your own better?
[05:30] <kro2488> i noticed on the gui for ufw if you set it to public it changes incoming to reject
[05:30] <kro2488> not even deny, just reject lol
[05:30] <madebymarkca> if you run nmap against yourself you can check what ports are open
[05:30] <madebymarkca> by deafult you shouldn't really have much to worry about
[05:31] <kro2488> gotcha
[05:32] <kro2488> how many of you are using ubuntu mate?
[05:32] <kro2488> i love it better than the unity environment
[05:32] <madebymarkca> it just looks like ubuntu with old version of gnome
[05:33] <madebymarkca> are you using a raspberry pi?
[05:33] <madebymarkca> you can install multiple window managers if you don't like unity
[05:33] <kro2488> i just found ubuntu mate and installed that version of the distro
[05:33] <gagalicious> i just got ldap installed and working with phpldapadmin. my question is... how large is ldap able to hold? how many users? will 10biilion users be ok? just curious.
[05:33] <kro2488> i had tried installing the mate desktop just in normal ubuntu
[05:33] <kro2488> but it would freak out sometimes
[05:33] <kro2488> get buggy
[05:34] <kro2488> so im glad they have the mate version you can install cuz its not
[05:34] <madebymarkca> I think mate uses gnome 2
[05:34] <kro2488> maybe not sure i just know i like how it looks
[05:34] <kro2488> and how organized the menu is
[05:34] <rww> MATE is a fork of GNOME 2.
[05:34] <madebymarkca> yes that is gnome 2 :)
[05:34] <kro2488> i didnt like how it shrunk my screen having the bar on the left
[05:35] <OerHeks> gnome3 with the old gnome2 look&feel
[05:35] <rww> Unlike GNOME 2, it's supported and being developed.
[05:35] <kro2488> yup yup
[05:35] <kro2488> its late here i need sleep
[05:35] <mjbrancato> Does anyone know how to automatically suspend to RAM in Ubuntu 15.0.4? My desktop machine never enters standby.
[05:35] <mjbrancato> I have tried so many different things on forums.
[05:35] <kro2488> ill ttul later, thanks for chatting about that question guys also
[05:35] <Slaninica> Hello
[05:36] <Slaninica> da li neko govori nas jezik ovdje?
[05:37] <wileee> !cr
[05:37] <Slaninica> tako mi je dosadno, a ne znam nista o IT tehnologijama. Ima li kakav normalan kanal za razgovor osim pizdarija o kompjuterima?
[05:38] <wileee> !hr
[05:38] <wileee> Slaninica, ^^^
[05:39] <OerHeks> mjbrancato, suspend to ram is disabled, standard, this manual is a good start http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/enable-hibernate-ubuntu-14-04/
[05:39] <OerHeks> It should work after reboot
[05:40] <Slaninica> is there any chat room for social interaction except those nonsense python, ruby, JAVA and other pizdariji?
[05:42] <OerHeks> Slaninica, sure, #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss
[05:42] <Slaninica> OerHeks, except IT and coding?
[05:42] <Slaninica> it seems this server is only about coding
[05:43] <OerHeks> ubuntu support is offtopic in offtopic, and in discuss you can talk widely about ict
[05:43] <Slaninica> let me join them then
[05:43] <OerHeks> you're welcome, discuss is silent now
[05:44] <mjbrancato> OerHeks, thank you. I wonder why it's disabled. Reading article now
[05:44] <Slaninica> can i run parallel Ubuntu and Windows?
[05:44] <absk007> can i upgrade from ubuntu desktop installer ISO without internet?
[05:45] <absk007> Slaninica, yes. You can by using dual boot.
[05:45] <OerHeks> mjbrancato, me too, but i hardly hibernate nor let the machine sleep.
[05:45] <mjbrancato> OerHeks, I am trying to suspend, not hibernate though?
[05:46] <wileee> absk007, can you narrow that down to from what to what release?
[05:46] <OerHeks> mjbrancato, yes, suspend-to-ram
[05:46] <absk007> wileee, from 14.10 -> 15.04
[05:47] <wileee> absk007, you can use it and save some or all of the setup I believe, I never upgrade is all.
[05:47] <OerHeks> absk007, problem is, if you have apps that are not on the dvd, you will miss parts
[05:48] <mjbrancato> OerHeks, I don't see it in the article. I just want to start suspending because I want to conserve a little more electricity and running my computer 24/7 puts a lot of strain on it.
[05:48] <mjbrancato> None of this works: http://i.imgur.com/8DKHX1k.png
[05:49] <OerHeks> mjbrancato, did you reboot to let the scripts take effect?
[05:51] <mjbrancato> OerHeks, I don't have a SWAP partition. I removed it because I don't care for the hibernation feature. I also didn't have 32-64GB left on my SSD for my 32GB of RAM. I will try the scripts anyways
[05:52] <OerHeks> mjbrancato, ahh that is the clue, you will need that.
[05:52] <mjbrancato> oerheks, this command does work though: sudo pm-suspend    ok trying scripts
[05:53] <mjbrancato> oerheks, but I don't want to suspend to disk nor do I want a swap partition
[05:53] <absk007> wileee, I want to upgrade from 14.10 -> 15.04 using desktop installer. Is it possible?
[05:54] <OerHeks> mjbrancato, maybe i am wrong, only sleep will need the swap?
[05:54] <wileee> absk007, I believe so, look at my answer and OerHeks
[05:54] <wileee> has it's risks is all
[05:54] <play> anyone know why im the only user but i seem to have 2 passwords
, hibernate needs swap, that is suspend to disk. Sleep is keeping computer is low power state, and doesn't shut off
[05:55] <absk007> wileee, my IRC client ended abruptly. I'm unable to see the previous messages
[05:55] <wileee> play, someone make a root password?
[05:55] <wileee> absk007, <wileee> absk007, you can use it and save some or all of the setup I believe, I never upgrade is all.<OerHeks> absk007, problem is, if you have apps that are not on the dvd, you will miss parts
[05:56] <play> at the beginning of instillation?
[05:56] <wileee> absk007, both posts together
[05:56] <wileee> play, Can you explain why you think you have two passwords?
[05:57] <absk007> OerHeks, i can upgrade the apps later using internet. I just wanna lower my net usage using the dvd to upgrade.
[05:58] <mjbrancato> oerheks, I found this gnome tweak tool, maybe this will work: http://i.imgur.com/gQR2lLO.png
[05:58] <play> its play, i thought that i had set it for no password but some times it lets me slide with nothing and others it makes me enter the previous installs pw
[06:00] <wileee> no password, I'm done
[06:09] <wileee> play, This play on linux?
[06:09] <absk007> wileee, how do I upgrade using the ubuntu desktop ISO installer? There is no cdromupgrade file in it.
[06:09] <wileee> absk007, Uh in a disk/usb or grub
[06:10] <absk007> wileee, so i boot from the iso?
[06:11] <wileee> absk007, Not normally no, possible to boot it with grub but I think it needs it's own partition.
[06:11] <wileee> for an install or upgrade
[06:12] <wileee> absk007, You not have a disk or usb?
[06:15] <absk007> wileee, i'm on a vm & have desktop 15.04 iso
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[06:29] <n4n1t3> Hello! i was wondering if i could get some help i purchased a dell inspiron 14 2015 model and i decided to install lubuntu 14.04 and i cant get my trackpad to scroll any ideas?
[06:29] <BuzzardBuzz> is my ascii table corrupted?
[06:29] <rww> kelkod: please speak English in here, thanks.
[06:32] <n4n1t3> or atleast point me to the right place to ask
[06:34] <BuzzardBuzz> he got klined from freenode
[06:34] <rww> yep.
[06:41] <wileee> n4n1t3, at the least you want to name the computer fully, hardware is the deal to start with, take a look here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[06:42] <wileee> another  https://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/touchpad
[07:21] <baash05> Hey guys..
[07:22] <iGambit> hello baash05
[07:23] <baash05> I'm about to install ubuntu on a system..  When I do that I'm not going to have internet access because I'll need to install the drivers for the wifi
[07:24] <baash05> Is there a way to install drivers without the internet access?
[07:24] <baash05> rather.. How can I download something to usb, and install it from there.
[07:27] <iGambit> u can download network driver and install separately
[07:28] <verb5> have you checked if the kernel already support the necessary driver ?\
[07:29] <baash05> I'm just going based on the wiki that tells me how to install.. said MATE needed new drivers installed seperately
[07:29] <baash05> I've not tried it yet.
[07:30] <darth> Try it on a virtual machine
[07:32] <Noskcaj> I've made a bridge network in virt-manager, but now my host can no longer access the internet itself. How can i fix this?
[07:32] <baash05> Okay.. assuming for a moment, it doesn't work
[07:32] <darth> um drivers...
[07:33] <baash05> Assuming the default drivers don't work.. The docs said I'd need to apt-get the drivers.
[07:35] <ubuntunewbie> hi guys newbie here i just got into some issues with grub
[07:35] <darth> yup
[07:35] <baash05> but that's rather hard to do.. given I've no internet
[07:35] <darth> then get internet
[07:36] <rww> if you know the package name, you can download it from packages.ubuntu.com ahead of time and put it on a USB stick, I tend to do that
[07:36] <ubuntunewbie> i had a win 8.1 and ubuntu dual boot , so decided to delete win, unfortunately  grub cant load , i even already resized the disk
[07:36] <rww> or use Ethernet instead if available
[07:36] <baash05> I got no ethernet :(
[07:36] <darth> yeah a ethernet cord will do good
[07:37] <darth> buy one its cheap
[07:37] <ubuntunewbie> is there a way i cn fix grub to boot again into my ubuntu
[07:37] <darth> wait ill check
[07:38] <ubuntunewbie> darth, any idea on my issue mate ?
[07:38] <darth> i found a solution
[07:38] <darth> Please do the following so we can get a better overview of what is where on the system:
[07:38] <darth> Boot the Ubuntu Live CD/USB. Choose the option "Try Ubuntu without any changes." Once the desktop loads come back here and do the following:
[07:38] <darth> 1. Download the boot info script which is in a zipped file. There is a link in my signature.
[07:38] <darth> 2. Once downloaded, move the boot info script by either copying or dragging and dropping the zipped folder onto the desktop and unzip the contents by using right-click Extract here.
[07:38] <darth> 3. Open the folder and copy the script to the desktop (you can also drag and drop if you like)
[07:38] <baash05> Once I download it.
[07:39] <baash05> and put it on the stick, how do I install it?
[07:40] <ubuntunewbie> anyone heeelllllpp :(
[07:40] <darth> i dont know
[07:41] <baash05> rww.. How do you install from the USB?
[07:41] <darth> go to this website ubuntunewbie :- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1802702
[07:41] <GAM002> does one drive support ubuntu?
[07:41] <darth> nope
[07:41] <rww> baash05: I expect opening the USB in the file manager and double-clicking it would work. If not, sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb would.
[07:41] <ubuntunewbie> thanks darth, heading there
[07:41] <darth> try ubuntu one
[07:41] <darth> bo issue
[07:41] <GAM002> too sad that ubuntu has shutted down ubuntu one
[07:41] <rww> ubuntu one doesn't exist any more, does it?
[07:42] <GAM002> :(
[07:42] <GAM002> they shutted it down
[07:42] <GAM002> as far as i know
[07:42] <darth> it has shut down ubuntu one !!!!!!
[07:42] <GAM002> was awesome
[07:42] <darth> let me check
[07:43] <darth> yup its shut down
[07:43] <GAM002> :(
[07:43] <darth> i will try for a different service hold on
[07:43] <ubuntunewbie> darth, sourceforge is down  can download the boot info script
[07:44] <darth> wait what sourceforge is down
[07:45] <ubuntunewbie> The sourceforge.net website is temporarily in static offline mode.
[07:45] <darth> let me check....
[07:45] <GAM002> anyone have any software sugetion for ubuntu for music creation?
[07:45] <ubuntunewbie> Only a very limited set of project pages are available until the main website returns to service.
[07:45] <darth> look in the store
[07:45] <darth> gam002
[07:46] <tamiyafan> Hi, I'm having problems setting up SSH key-baysed authentication on a linux server
[07:46] <GAM002> darth: suggetions
[07:46] <tamiyafan> I;ve created the id_rsa file, copied the id_rsa.pub to the server /home/user/authorized_key
[07:47] <rww> tamiyafan: it's supposed to be /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys
[07:47] <tamiyafan> but I still cannot ssh in using "ssh -i id_rsa -p xxxx user@myserver.domain"
[07:47] <darth> sourceforge looks online bro...
[07:47] <tamiyafan> rww: correct :) sorry i mistyped
[07:48] <darth> well i preffer u use audacity its pretty simple
[07:48] <rww> tamiyafan: is id_rsa in the current directory, or in ~/.ssh?
[07:48] <ubuntunewbie> this is the message i am getting when i got to the bootinfoscript.soirceforge.net
[07:49] <ubuntunewbie> The sourceforge.net website is temporarily in static offline mode.
[07:49] <ubuntunewbie> Only a very limited set of project pages are available until the main website returns to service.
[07:49] <darth> wait let me check again ....
[07:50] <tamiyafan> my current directory is .ssh
[07:50] <ubuntunewbie> the link on the forum is corrupted i had to search directly
[07:50] <ubuntunewbie> i got it now
[07:50] <rww> tamiyafan: ah. what error message do you get when you try to connect?
[07:50] <darth> cool glad to hear ubuntunewbie
[07:51] <juiced> tamiyafan: check the permissions when you are sure it's in the right place, needs to be 644 - this has given me problems in the past
[07:51] <tamiyafan> It asks me for the password, so if i type in the remote user's password, it connects. But if I type in the passphrase, which is what I want, it rejects it
[07:51] <rww> hrm
[07:52] <rww> check that the permissions on .ssh local and remote are 700
[07:52] <darth> sudo apt-get toilet
[07:52] <tamiyafan> Permissons on the remote /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys file is 664
[07:52] <darth> install^^
[07:53] <rww> tamiyafan: and for the directory itself?
[07:54] <darth> tamiyafan whats the problem
[07:54] <tamiyafan> Permissions on the remote /home/user/.ssh dir is 775
[07:54] <ubuntunewbie> darth i have results.txt file now created ?
[07:54] <darth> ok
[07:54] <rww> tamiyafan: chmod 700 /home/user/.ssh and try again
[07:54] <tamiyafan> rww: local or remote?
[07:54] <tamiyafan> my username locally is the same username on the remote server
[07:55] <rww> both
[07:55] <darth> i guess you follow the instructions from here
[07:55] <GAM002> antivirus for ubuntu
[07:55] <roracle> Off the top of anyone's head: if a user cannot upload via a web interface (like a blog etc) what is the first thing you would imagine is wrong?  they can select the file, and hit upload, but it returns 0kb and no image.  What is your first impression?
[07:56] <ubuntunewbie> darth, where do i post results.txt file ?
[07:56] <k1l> GAM002: dont need one. just make sure you have the updates
[07:56] <rww> tamiyafan: ~/.ssh/id_rsa might need to be 600 too, i forget which permissions exactly it checks
[07:56] <rww> (on local)
[07:56] <darth> viruses do exist
[07:57] <tamiyafan> ?? 600 for the file, 700 for the dir?
[07:57] <rww> yes
[07:57] <GAM002> k1l: well i cant trust the internet always there do exist
[07:57] <juiced> 700 ~/.ssh, 600 ~/.ssh/id_rsa, 644 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub, 644 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys, 644 ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[07:58] <GAM002> so any suggetions?
[07:58] <k1l> GAM002: but "antivirus" dont help. make sure you dont install stuff from sources you cant trust. make sure you got the updates to fix the security issues
[07:58] <tamiyafan> Son of bitch. That worked! :) :)
[07:58] <rww> tamiyafan: awesome :)
[07:58] <tamiyafan> Thanks rww
[07:58] <tamiyafan> If only the tutorials on the Internet would mention that
[07:59] <rww> yeah, it's a really common hiccup :(
[07:59] <darth> yup the sugestions are as follows clamav, avg , bitdefender etc
[07:59] <roracle> User connects to system via website.  User wants to upload image.  User selects image.  User hits "upload" button.  Page tells user "image is 0kb" because something is wrong.  What is anyone's first assessment of this?  (I think it's permissions, but this guy in httpd keeps telling me i don't know what i'm doing then has me do things i've never done as though i'm a pro, it's annoying)
[08:00] <GAM002> k1l: but i am not always exact about this unknown sources
[08:00] <Ben64> GAM002: if you don't have internet, how do you expect to get a virus
[08:00] <GAM002> darth: ok thanks
[08:00] <rww> ubottu: antivirus
[08:00] <darth> gam002 no problem
[08:00] <GAM002> Ben64: i have net acces
[08:00] <k1l> GAM002: darth and what does the windows "virus scanners" help you on ubuntu?
[08:00] <Ben64> GAM002: then you can get the updates
[08:00] <ubuntunewbie> darth still waiting what should i do next
[08:01] <k1l> GAM002: so you install unknown stuff from 3rd parties and are frightened about viruses? you know that the 3rd party could do anything to your system?
[08:01] <darth> you see you remember the promises linux had stated like you do not need to reboot or ou will not get viruses well it turns out it is fase so yeah
[08:02] <k1l> darth: please more facts and less chat in here, thanks
[08:02] <darth> roger that
[08:02] <rww> I think we can probably leave it at "you probably don't need AV. if you think you do, here are some options", and we have covered that now :)
[08:02] <GAM002> k1l: well updates cant keep be safe always
[08:02] <GAM002> k1l: btw it seems as there are versions of antivirus for linux
[08:03] <Ben64> GAM002: how can you trust any software then
[08:03] <Ben64> including antivirus
[08:03] <k1l> GAM002: to scan windows installs, yes
[08:04] <rww> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_computer_viruses => I mean, yes, they theoretically are a thing, but I've never ever seen one in the real world.
[08:04] <darth> do you know the rescue mode terminal if you do then use this Type this in the terminal:
[08:04] <darth> set boot=(hd0,msdos6)
[08:04] <darth> set prefix=(hd0,msdos6)/boot/grub
[08:04] <darth> insmod normal
[08:04] <darth> normal
[08:04] <GAM002> k1l: actually i was talking about linux files which i install from websites
[08:05] <k1l> GAM002: so you trust that files....
[08:05] <Ben64> GAM002: so don't do that
[08:05] <GAM002> k1l: there are usually linux versions of softwares available on random websites and how can i know i can trus that?
[08:06] <darth> ubuntunewbie try using the grub rescue terminal
[08:06] <rww> by eschewing them in favor of the software in the Ubuntu repositories?
[08:06] <rww> seems to work fine for me, anyway :\
[08:06] <tamiyafan> Virus on Linux or Windows isn't scary. Whats scary to me is cryptolocker. A simple binary or shell script that scours every remote host CIFs share for R/W permissions :(
[08:06] <GAM002> k1l: well what is a person make a ubuntu virus file and put it on a website on the name of a software wont i get hacked /infected if i installed it?
[08:07] <k1l> GAM002: that is the reason why we suggest to install from the official ubuntu repo
[08:09] <darth> kll viruses are on linux too turns out i am infected
[08:09] <otirc> GAM002: as k1l use the official ubuntu repo, and trusted sources
[08:09] <GAM002> k1l: but i cant get all softwares from ubuntu store
[08:09] <GAM002> repo?
[08:09] <rww> is there one in particular you're thinking of?
[08:09] <GAM002> what is repo?
[08:10] <GAM002> bitdefender antivirus
[08:10] <otirc> GAM002: repository
[08:10] <rww> repository, it's basically the place that the Store gets programs from
[08:11] <GAM002> otirc: rww: ok
[08:11] <rww> I would expect you'd get Bitdefender from Bitdefender's website, ne? not some "random website"
[08:11] <darth> yup
[08:11] <GAM002> ya
[08:11] <rww> so what's the problem then?
[08:11] <GAM002> and how can i know if a program is safe? then?
[08:11] <rww> is it from somewhere you trust? if so yes, if not no.
[08:12] <darth> its safe if  its from the official website
[08:12] <rww> same as any other operating system
[08:12] <otirc> GAM002: Its all based on trust, do your research
[08:12] <GAM002> thats what i said i cant know all the trusted sources
[08:12] <GAM002> so wont i be needing a antivirus?
[08:12] <rww> who you trust is different for different people
[08:12] <darth> firefox blocks some malware so yeah
[08:13] <rww> an antivirus isn't going to block you downloading software written by some untrustworthy person who puts a command in it to delete your home directory or something
[08:13] <darth> that is not always true
[08:14] <GAM002> and antivirus blocks when a software acts like a virus right? so if i have one one ubuntu wont it stop it from doing maliculus actions right?
[08:14] <rww> heh
[08:14] <darth> i dont understand
[08:14] <GAM002> rww: well an antivirus usually blocks the person from writting the code into the home directory
[08:15] <GAM002> on windows
[08:15] <GAM002> same on linux right?
[08:15] <rww> depends on whether that particular program matches one of its signatures or not
[08:15] <wileee> GAM002, As you use linux you will get that what you've been told is true.
[08:15] <darth> yup
[08:16] <GAM002> rww: ya so wont an antivirus be needed to find if a program has the signature?
[08:16] <GAM002> wileee: ?
[08:16] <wileee> darth, The minute you said you had a virus, you lost any cred you had which very little
[08:16] <wileee> was*
[08:16] <rww> i expect we probably disagree on whether Linux antivirus vendors actually bother having more than a token set of signatures for the few dozen completely unpopular Linux viruses that they've put out press releases about in the past
[08:17] <fishcooker> how to force power meter always show on systray lubuntu desktop?
[08:17] <wileee> GAM002, Except for darths rhetoric, the rest is true.
[08:17] <rww> and in any case, it sounds like you think antivirus products have similar features to intrusion detection systems, which... they don't
[08:17] <Ben64> don't run anything you don't trust, bam, best antivirus ever
[08:17] <rww> but, it is 1am, so i will leave it at that and wander off
[08:18] <darth> yup
[08:18] <ShinzJr> test
[08:18] <wileee> fishcooker, does it show when started?
[08:18] <muh2000> hi all
[08:19] <muh2000> i cannot save my network-manager settings
[08:19] <muh2000> what could be the cause for that?
[08:19] <GAM002> so how many of you run an antivirus on your linux system?
[08:19] <darth> can you explain it more clearly muh2000
[08:19] <Ben64> GAM002: probably very close to none
[08:19] <darth> i have an antivirus
[08:20] <GAM002> darth: which?
[08:20] <Ben64> ok, so 1/1671 in the channel\
[08:20] <darth> bitdefender
[08:20] <GAM002> darth: ok
[08:20] <Ben64> GAM002: it really is not necessary, and can make you more likely to get something bad
[08:20] <fishcooker> wileee: it sometimes appear but sometimes disappear
[08:20] <GAM002> Ben64: get something bad?
[08:21] <darth> well thats ur opinion ben 64
[08:21] <Ben64> GAM002: because then you'll rely on your antivirus to protect you instead of common sense
[08:21] <darth> funny
[08:21] <otirc> GAM002: I run clamav on mail server, but its used for flaging window virus
[08:21] <Ben64> it's a fact, it happens
[08:21] <darth> nope
[08:21] <wileee> fishcooker, Ah, I was thinking an autostart at login, carry on.
[08:21] <muh2000> darth: this connection requires ipv4 cannot be saved....
[08:21] <GAM002> Ben64: oh in that way :) does happen on windows for some people
[08:22] <Ben64> GAM002: just don't run anything silly and you'll be fine. antivirus is worthless on linux
[08:22] <darth> muh2000 let me research ur problem give me some time
[08:22] <muh2000> :)
[08:22] <GAM002> i am thinking of installing comodo
[08:23] <GAM002> Ben64: k will keep that in mind
[08:23] <Ben64> GAM002: so why even ask here if you're going to ignore everyone
[08:23] <darth> muh2000 check out this forum  http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=150&t=102316
[08:23] <fishcooker> right now i think i should  make cron every minute if percentage of upower -d less than 30% there is warning to plug power adapter soon, wileee
[08:24] <muh2000> darth: well it is not greyed out
[08:24] <fishcooker> but if any graphical information abt battery it would be better
[08:24] <darth> then whats the problem
[08:25] <muh2000> darth:  when i boot the box and login, network eth0 cannot get up. after i restart networkmanager eth0 works,  eth1 works though. both configured the same way (dhcp)
[08:26] <darth> ok let me just look it up
[08:27] <darth> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/47587/network-interface-eth0-not-up-at-start-on-debian-6
[08:27] <GAM002> Ben64: i didnt ignore anyone i asked for suggetions and i got calm av and bitdefender as options
[08:27] <Ben64> GAM002: you ignored the 30 minutes of everyone telling you antivirus is not needed at all
[08:27] <darth> it is needed
[08:27] <Ben64> it really isn't
[08:27] <GAM002> Ben64: uhh i asked for antivirus suggetions
[08:28] <darth> it is
[08:28] <Ben64> and the overwhelming majority said none
[08:28] <Ben64> except for this one troll
[08:28] <darth> y'all u guys agree
[08:28] <GAM002> mojority is not a sollution
[08:28] <Ben64> so go ahead, trust the one random troll who has never been in this channel before
[08:28] <muh2000> darth: the eth0 dev is visible when i type eth0. just not getting configured through network-manager.... eth1 works though.
[08:28] <Ben64> ignore the multiple channel ops and regular helpers that said you don't need it
[08:29] <darth> ok one sec
[08:29] <otirc> GAM002: have you just started working with linux?
[08:29] <GAM002> i asked for antivirus suggetions not for the need of require ment of antivirus
[08:29] <GAM002> otirc: i am on ubuntu
[08:29] <Ben64> the suggestion is none
[08:29] <Ben64> don't be so very dense
[08:29] <darth> linux needs antivirus
[08:29] <GAM002> i been using linux for 4 years past 3 years only for school stuffs
[08:30] <darth> http://askubuntu.com/questions/71159/network-manager-says-device-not-managed
[08:30] <otirc> GAM002: So you've mainly being using Windows?
[08:30] <otirc> *been
[08:30] <GAM002> now i am trying to make linux into my majour os above windows (ubuntu 14.04)
[08:30] <Ben64> "i want to set myself on fire!"      "don't set yourself on fire, it's probably not a good idea"      "but i'm asking how to, not if its a good idea!"
[08:30] <wileee> lol
[08:30] <darth> ben64 hunh
[08:31] <GAM002> Ben64: ya i was trying to tell you that i am going to install an antivirus for shure
[08:31] <GAM002> Ben64: well not going to tell you that but trying to
[08:31] <otirc> GAM002: Linux/Unix user has a different mindset to the windows user
[08:31] <Ben64> right, and i'm trying to point out to you that you shouldn't and everyone says its not necessary, and you don't need it, and its unnecessary, and its not going to help you do anything but waste power ram and cpu
[08:31] <wileee> GAM002, Do the research, than you will know/
[08:32] <GAM002> otirc: ?
[08:32] <GAM002> otirc: what is it? tell me
[08:33] <Ben64> GAM002: why do you want to install antivirus
[08:33] <iGambit> i don't think you will find any antivirus for linux
[08:33] <GAM002> Ben64: cause i put safety first
[08:33] <Ben64> GAM002: and if it doesn't make you any safer, then what
[08:34] <iGambit> what do u mean by safety ?
[08:34] <GAM002> Ben64: if it doesnt?
[08:34] <Ozzelot> GAM002: Linux already puts safety first.
[08:34] <GAM002> iGambit: security
[08:34] <Ben64> GAM002: right, it doesn't make anything more safe
[08:34] <darth> ben64 read this https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/284124-myth-busting-is-linux-immune-to-viruses
[08:34] <GAM002> then privacy usually both doesnt getalong soo good
[08:34] <iGambit> agreed with Ozzelot
[08:35] <darth> dissagreed
[08:35] <wileee> GAM002, really safety first "<GAM002> k1l: but i am not always exact about this unknown sources"
[08:35] <GAM002> when it comes to ubuntu
[08:35] <otirc> GAM002: due to the vast majority of software in the community being opensource the code is constantly viewed by many ppl significantly lower the risk of malicious code being inserted
[08:35] <darth> no
[08:35] <wileee> GAM002, Your rhetoric is so bad.
[08:35] <wileee> like talking to a 12 year old
[08:36] <darth> aka u
[08:36] <Ben64> cfhowlett: you come here to help people often, can i ask you a question, since you've missed the majority of this conversation
[08:36] <cfhowlett> ben64 (cautiously) ...  of course!
[08:36] <cfhowlett> and I've missed ALL the convo
[08:36] <Ben64> cfhowlett: do you think antivirus software is necessary in ubuntu
[08:36] <GAM002> wileee: sry english is not my mother tough
[08:36] <GAM002> toungh
[08:37] <GAM002> 3 rd language
[08:37] <darth> tongue
[08:37] <GAM002> darth: ya tongue    tnx :)
[08:37] <darth> no issue
[08:38] <cfhowlett> Ben64, IMHO as a "normal" desktop user who maintains a low profile and puts few financial or login details online or on the device , I'm not an especially attractive target.  I don't use antivirus.  But if I had, say, a public facing server of some time?  Oh, HECK yes!
[08:39] <cfhowlett> Ben64, but, that's just, like, my opinion, man.
[08:39] <darth> antiviruses for the wining
[08:39] <Ben64> interesting answer, marking it down as not necessary :)
[08:39] <darth> now u agree
[08:39] <iGambit> GAM002 : i dont use any anti virus
[08:40] <GAM002> iGambit: ok
[08:40] <iGambit> this doesn't mean i am not safe
[08:40] <GAM002> nor safe
[08:40] <cfhowlett> Ben64, I do, however, have my firewall enabled.
[08:40] <Ben64> just don't run anything weird and you're safe
[08:41] <Ben64> cfhowlett: well yes of course
[08:41] <iGambit> agreed with Ben64
[08:42] <muh2000> darth: thnx for your time, i guess it was a type in networking/interfaces
[08:42] <iGambit> have a look : http://askubuntu.com/questions/35629/are-ppas-safe-to-add-to-my-system-and-what-are-some-red-flags-to-watch-out-fo
[08:42] <otirc> Ben64: think that's gone full circle again lol
[08:42] <ufk_> hi
[08:42] <ufk_> when i do sudo -s stuff on /etc/profile.d are not being called. is there a way to correct that ?
[08:42] <darth> muh2000 no probem bro
[08:43] <Ben64> ufk_: why sudo -s
[08:43] <muh2000> another issue though: sound is cracking. when i open&close some apps it works, but i cannot figure out a reproducable way....
[08:44] <ufk_> Ben64: just to see how it works, sudo <specific command> doesn't load /etc/profile.d or /root/.bashrc either
[08:44] <Ben64> ufk_: thats on purpose
[08:44] <darth> is your speaker configiration enabled allow over 100% disable it
[08:45] <muh2000> darth: it is unrealted to the sound volume.
[08:45] <muh2000> but limiting it to 100% would be great, never found a setting for that in KDE....
[08:46] <otirc> ufk_: what exactly are you trying to do?
[08:47] <ufk_> i installed node v0.12 using node version manager (nvm) and i added stuff in /etc/profile.d/nvm.sh that sets that environment variable for node to be executed properly. if i want to install stuff globally i need to use root, so when i become root, it doesn't have the environment variables required to execute nodejs and because of that i can't install stuff globally
[08:48] <GAM002> unable to install comodo
[08:48] <darth> muh200:- go to settings then sound ur speaker you should see it then
[08:48] <GAM002> -_-
[08:48] <baash05> Hey guys..
[08:48] <baash05> I'm looking to download bcmwl-kernel-source
[08:49] <Ben64> well that's easy. sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[08:51] <baash05> Ha ha... install network drivers by typing apt-get :)
 I'm looking to download bcmwl-kernel-source
[08:51] <Ben64> i gave you a line that does exactly that
[08:52] <baash05> That installs it.. but the computer I want to install it on has no net.
[08:52] <Ben64> hook up an ethernet for a bit then
[08:52] <cfhowlett> baash05, you're on ubuntu now?  apt-get bcmwl-kernel-source will download it not install it
[08:53] <baash05> I'm not on ubuntu
[08:55] <Ozzelot> baash05: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bcmwl-kernel-source
[08:59] <Eldunar> hello guys i wanted to install linux next to windows 8 but it do not recognize any partitions . In gparted there is only empty disk  . What can  i do to fix this?
[09:00] <darth> google it
[09:00] <baash05> Give that list Ozzelot: could you suggest which one I'd pick.. New install on mac-book-pro
[09:00] <Eldunar> done taht
[09:01] <Ozzelot> baash05: Pick the one for your Ubuntu version... Which one do you have?
[09:01] <darth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2180625
[09:02] <cfhowlett> Eldunar, sudo gdisk /dev/sda
[09:05] <baash05> I'm planning on installing MATE.
[09:06] <fishcooker1> what MATE for baash05
[09:07] <baash05> I just grabbed the latest.
[09:07] <Ozzelot> baash05: 15.04? Then from the list, pick vivid.
[09:08] <baash05> cool
[09:08] <baash05> But they only have for AMD.. and I'm planning on installing the mac/powerbook.
[09:08] <baash05> should be ok?
[09:09] <histo> baash05: amd64 is 64bit  not just for amd
[09:09] <histo> !mac | baash05
[09:10] <Ozzelot> baash05: I don't think so... Totally different architecture.
[09:10] <baash05> I'm following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro11-1/utopic
[09:11] <baash05> I'm on a newer version of the pro.. but figured they'd be close
[09:11] <Ozzelot> baash05: So what do you have then? An Intel-based one or an old PowerPC processor?
[09:13] <baash05> I have a one month old mac-book pro
[09:13] <darth> its inte alright
[09:14] <Ozzelot> baash05: Then if you have 64bit Ubuntu, an amd64 package is OK.
[09:14] <baash05> Ah... cool.
[09:14] <Ozzelot> Agree with darth, sure is. :D
[09:14] <cfhowlett> baash05, also, if you've the ubuntu .iso ... you already HAVE bcmwl-kernel-source
[09:15] <cfhowlett> open up the .iso /pool/restricted/b/bmwl/
[09:16] <darth> intel is all
[09:17] <darth> all is not intel
[09:18] <baash05> There's two iso's for MATE. one specifically for mac.and powerbooks
[09:21] <Ozzelot> baash05, yours is a 64bit PC.
[09:22] <Eldunar> hello. i have a problem with partitions when i want to install linux. I can not install it, because linux is not seeing any partitions and disk seems blank. http://pastebin.com/rxUur3BW <- this is what gparted says
[09:23] <baash05> Eh?  amd64?  or desktop-powerbook?
[09:23] <Eldunar> HP compaq cq58
[09:23] <Eldunar> laptop
[09:24] <baash05> Ozzelot: The mate page said that desktop-powerbook was the iso I was after?
[09:24] <cfhowlett> Eldunar, gparted can't read gpt.  use gdisk: sudo gdisk /dev/sda
[09:24] <baash05> Or did I read it wrong?
[09:24] <Eldunar> i just installed fresh windows 8.1 system on this laptop. and i want to do it
[09:24] <wileee> Eldunar, gparted should see it my guess is a broken table, you wer given a command to check.
[09:24] <wileee> were*
[09:25] <Eldunar> this is the output <- http://pastebin.com/ukpB7jVZ
[09:25] <Ozzelot> baash05: If your MacBook is a month old, it has an Intel processor. desktop-powerpc is for PPC processors, which were found in old Macs. Which yours is not.
[09:25] <Ozzelot> A 64-bit Intel processor, of course.
[09:26] <Ozzelot> baash05: So get an amd64 iso and you'll be okay.
[09:26] <Eldunar> How can i fix this?
[09:26] <wileee> Eldunar, what is the history on this computer, your install, any attempts on any installs?
[09:27] <wileee> attempts besides ubuntu
[09:27] <Eldunar> it had OEM WIn 8. But , my girlfriend wanted fresh windows 8.1 so i installed it and she wanted linux also. But i can not install here
[09:27] <baash05> Man that is awesome.
[09:27] <wileee> Eldunar, Is this a msdos install?
[09:28] <Eldunar> hmm.. yes i gues so that i used Legacy option
[09:28] <otirc> Eldunar: could run ubuntu live cd and use gparted to format partition
[09:28] <Eldunar> but ill loose all files
[09:29] <wileee> Eldunar, Ah, and you have gpt remnants probably, however I have not seen a blank HD in this, are you backed up?
[09:29] <Eldunar> i backed up only files what she needs for study and work. nothing more
[09:29] <Eldunar> i cleaned whole hdd
[09:30] <Ozzelot> Eldunar, if it's just a fresh Windows install, I'd just repartition the thing and install the systems. No big deal - just takes time.
[09:30] <cfhowlett> Eldunar, lose files?  but you have, of course, backed up everything already. Right?  RIGHT?
[09:30] <Eldunar> yeah. but it take soo much time. so the only way to install now is to partition whole disk?
[09:31] <Ozzelot> Eldunar, possibly not. But figuring out another way might probably also, you guessed it, take much time. So I'd go with repartitioning it.
[09:31] <wileee> Eldunar, Legacy before the windows install?
[09:32] <Eldunar> i do not know what was before. i just cleaned whole disc with windows installer ( and pendrive was booted in legacy i think)
[09:32] <wileee> cfhowlett, You think this is a rods gpt fix, don't remember see empty HD's in this context?
[09:33] <wileee> hate to suggest that without being sure
[09:33] <cfhowlett> Willis, that was my thought.  my system sees the GPT if I use gdisk.  fdisk fails.  but gparted DOES see all partitions!
[09:33] <wileee> yeah I figured so
[09:34] <wileee> Eldunar, I vote a reinstall.
[09:35] <Eldunar> https://imgur.com/yJ90JFu this is what gparted see
[09:36] <cfhowlett> Eldunar, have you tried gdisk??
[09:37] <Eldunar> http://pastebin.com/ukpB7jVZ <- here is output
[09:38] <wileee> Eldunar, When you make a uefi a legacy sometimes the partition table area sda here has remnants of gpt still, both your links say this, however we would normally see partitions. Something went wrong here.
[09:38] <Eldunar> so repartition that with gparted?
[09:38] <Eldunar> and new partition table?
[09:39] <wileee> Eldunar, I would make a new partition table if you want legacy
[09:39] <wileee> yeah, heh
[09:39] <Eldunar> ok. so ill do this. thanks a lot!:)
[09:39] <Eldunar> have a nice day'
[09:39] <histo> Eldunar: if you have efivar -l  you aren't in legacy
[09:41] <CryptoSiD> how do i delete a service totaly with systemd?
[09:41] <CryptoSiD> i tryed adding rtorrent service and im unable to remove it, its listed as not found, the service wasnt working anyway
[09:42] <CryptoSiD> but now im stuck with this rtorrent.service                   not-found active exited  rtorrent.service
[10:05] <Auctus> i am loving unity
[10:05] <Auctus> its funny that people dont like it, its super slick and its highly productive for me
[10:06] <Auctus> workspaces and lenses are great
[10:06] <wileee> adaptation is a high function
[10:08] <Auctus> i just installed ubuntu last night (upgrading from lubuntu), loving it.
[10:09] <Auctus> 'cept the same mystery problem with my laptop, brightness keys dont work (because fn does nothing?) until after the laptop has been suspended and resumed, doesnt work on boot, odd as hell
[10:09] <Auctus> i just set a diff hotkey for xbacklight instead
[10:23] <histo> Auctus: so backlight works after suspend?
[10:23] <Auctus> histo: yes
[10:24] <Auctus> this was also true on lubuntu
[10:24] <Auctus> im on ubuntu 14.04 now
[10:27] <DeaDSouL> Hi, I have 512GB M.2 ssd.. the gparted software says that the current sector size is 512 while it should be 2048... how can I change the sector ? and what's the benefit of having large sector size?
[10:29] <tokam> http://askubuntu.com/q/617379/222371
[10:30] <tokam> I may have this bug: http://askubuntu.com/q/613021/222371
[10:30] <tokam> it is soo anyoing that my x-org always crashes.
[10:30] <tokam> can not it be fixed by the ubuntu community?
[10:31] <Ben64> did you look at the answers
[10:32] <tokam> but I do not have an nvidia card
[10:32] <tokam> Ben64: I tried to install the nouveu package
[10:32] <tokam> here is my lspci http://pastie.org/10300728
[10:32] <tokam> The error message is the same when my xorg crashes.
[10:33] <Ben64> if you don't have an nvidia card, its not that bug
[10:33] <tokam> after the installation of ubuntu 15.4 the crash happens every day
[10:35] <tokam> Ben64: I updated my question.
[10:36] <gnomed> tokam,  are u using ubuntu gnome or simple ubuntu?
[10:36] <tokam> gnome classic
[10:36] <gnomed> no I mean ubuntu distro is ubuntu with unity or specific ubuntu gnome distribution?
[10:37] <gnomed> there r various versions
[10:37] <tokam> gnomed: If I start Ubuntu I can select to boot up with gnome-classic.
[10:37] <tokam> *start my session with gnome-classic
[10:38] <tokam> It looks a bit like the old gnome than where I can press alt+f2 to start any programs with a simple input dialog.
[10:38] <tokam> I have the latest ubuntu 15.4 version and the error were there before the update.
[10:38] <tokam> I came from 14.4
[10:38] <gnomed> ubuntu gnome is patheric distro, unpolished, lack of support. They dont sort out anything.     Original ubntu is better. Even I use gnome shell on unity version of ubuntu Hope u understand what I want to say.
[10:42] <tokam> gnomed: I do not understand. Can I stay with the gnome-classic theme?
[10:42] <tokam> gnomed: is it really a gnome+ubuntu issue or maybe xorg or graphic card related?
[10:42] <tokam> gnomed: what does the error message tell us about the error?
[10:43] <tokam> gnomed: can we dig into the error logs depper by that error message
[10:43] <AppAraat> hi, has anyone configured an Ubuntu printserver on a samba share here? I'm wondering what difficulties did you face. Has having a multi-version windows environment been problematic?
[10:43] <cfhowlett> !server | AppAraat
[10:44] <AppAraat> cfhowlett: yep, I installed Ubuntu 14.04.2 minimal so far.
[10:46] <AppAraat> I found that when I installed it and configured it as a "CUPS server" and a "Samba server" it didn't let me install hplip package without dependency errors.
[10:46] <Ozzelot> tokam: GNOME 3 is an unholy mess. If you want something that looks and feels like old GNOME 2.x, use MATE.
[10:47] <tokam> what is the reciepie?
[10:47] <tokam> Must I install mate?
[10:47] <tokam> can i still use ubuntu
[10:47] <Ozzelot> tokam: Yes, you can. You just install the MATE desktop environment on it.
[10:48] <tokam> ok I will try it and hope the crashes do stop
[10:48] <tokam> maybe you should post that answer
[10:48] <tokam> http://askubuntu.com/questions/617379/my-gnome-session-crashes-how-to-find-out-why-and-solve-the-problem
[10:48] <anomonus2015> hey guys grub says that prefered mode is 1280 x 800 but i can only select orthe highest option that is selected is 1024 x 768
[10:48] <Ozzelot> There's even a derivative of Ubuntu which comes with MATE by default: http://ubuntu-mate.org/
[10:48] <gnomed> tokam,  I am using gnome shell on ubuntu 14.04.2 64bit (unity version). No issues, works perfectly. So if u can stay with 14.04 and u dont have specific reasons to go to 15.04, i thing ur problems may be solved
[10:49] <gnomed> If u want to experiment with 15.04 and learn things, go ahead
[10:50] <anomonus2015> guys how can i , is it possiable too, change the resolution of the grub boot loader screen ?
[10:51] <gnomed> anomonus2015,  yes u can. But I dont now how to...
[10:51] <Ben64> a bit silly too, since you'll see it maybe 60 seconds per year
[10:52] <anomonus2015> 0_0
[10:53] <Ozzelot> anomonus2015, edit the file /etc/default/grub. There will be a line GRUB_GFXMODE. Uncomment it (delete the # in the front) and type in your resolution. Then do a update-grub.
[10:53] <anomonus2015> Ozzelot, thx dude
[10:55] <anomonus2015> Ozzelot, whats the terminal command for this ?
[10:55] <Ozzelot> anomonus2015, sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[10:55] <Ozzelot> anomonus2015, then sudo update-grub
[11:03] <sim642> udisks is being acting weird for me, I have a dead mount process for an SD card which is not connected anymore and that's preventing me from using it again
[11:05] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:06] <Xose> dc
[11:07] <RDX4OO> hey BluesKaj
[11:07] <BluesKaj> Hi RDX4OO
[11:07] <Xose> ąĮą░čĆąŠą┤ ą╝ąĮčā ą║čéąŠ ąĮąĄą▒čāą┤čī čüą╗čŗčłąĖčé?
[11:07] <Xose> ą╝
[11:08] <RDX4OO> Xose, try english
[11:08] <anomonus2015> ok ive updated the resolution in grub. is there a way to update the bit depth as it still looks a bit blurry ?
[11:11] <BluesKaj> !ru | Xose
[11:20] <mladoux> *yawn*
[11:20] <mladoux> okay folks, off to sleepy land with me.
[11:21] <compdoc> say hello to the fairy princess
[11:29] <anomonus2015> Bluekaj why is my grub boot loader not very sharp in contrast like my desktop ? ive set it to the same resolution !
[11:34] <compdoc> anomonus2015, did you update grub after changing the setting?
[11:35] <anomonus2015> yes
[11:39] <compdoc> does ubuntu display an image from the drive during boot? the image might not be high rez
[11:40] <anomonus2015> it was a fairly high res image. i resized it to 1280 x 800
[11:40] <anomonus2015> it was larger
[11:40] <anomonus2015> but im on a laptop
[11:41] <compdoc> you might want to start over with a fresh copy of the file
[11:50] <anlashok> bazhang µś»õĖ¬Õ®ŖÕŁÉńö¤ńÜä’╝ü
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[11:55] <_raven_> hi
[11:56] <Ozzelot> hi _raven_
[11:57] <anlashok> bazhang µś»õĖ¬Õ®ŖÕŁÉńö¤ńÜä’╝ü
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[11:57] <_raven_> i am trying to use gqrx with xubuntu 14.04.2 but i always get this: http://pastebin.com/SqCdaEX8 any idea?
[11:58] <anlashok> ubootu is shittiest OS in this chaotic  universe
[11:59] <Ben64> !ops
[11:59] <anlashok> bazhang µś»õĖ¬Õ®ŖÕŁÉńö¤ńÜä’╝ü bazhang µś»õĖ¬Õ®ŖÕŁÉńö¤ńÜä’╝ü bazhang µś»õĖ¬Õ®ŖÕŁÉńö¤ńÜä’╝ü bazhang µś»õĖ¬Õ®ŖÕŁÉńö¤ńÜä’╝ü bazhang µś»õĖ¬Õ®ŖÕŁÉńö¤ńÜä’╝ü bazhang µś»õĖ¬Õ®ŖÕŁÉńö¤ńÜä’╝ü
[11:59] <anlashok> bazhang µś»õĖ¬Õ®ŖÕŁÉńö¤ńÜä’╝ü
[11:59] <anlashok> bazhang µś»õĖ¬Õ®ŖÕŁÉńö¤ńÜä’╝ü
[11:59] <anlashok> bazhang µś»õĖ¬Õ®ŖÕŁÉńö¤ńÜä’╝ü
[11:59] <histo> anlashok: stop
[11:59] <anlashok> bazhang µś»õĖ¬Õ®ŖÕŁÉńö¤ńÜä’╝ü
[11:59] <anlashok> bazhang µś»õĖ¬Õ®ŖÕŁÉńö¤ńÜä’╝ü
[11:59] <Ozzelot> Finally.
[12:00] <Ben64> bot could use some better programming
[12:01] <BluesKaj> assume the repetitive characters are an insult
[12:02] <Ozzelot> BluesKaj: Google says it means "born of a b***h".
[12:02] <Ozzelot> So, your assumption is correct.
[12:03] <BluesKaj> Ozzelot,  I have seem worse :-)
[12:03] <BluesKaj> err seen
[12:03] <Ozzelot> BluesKaj: I have invented worse, to be honest. :D
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Ozzelot,  some russian jerk tried to steal my nick and hack my pc/network after he claimed I gave him bad advice for his audio setup...some ppl can be very vindictive
[12:10] <Ozzelot> BluesKaj, well that's something different... Chinese insults really aren't that bad. And I'm kinda assuming that you didn't even give him bad advice... :D
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Ozzelot,  well, several regulars here confirmed that my advice was correct , but we'll never know why he did what he did
[12:12] <BluesKaj> it's over 5 yrs ago now
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> long time ago when we was fab
[12:16] <watsug> I'm trying to use the Ubuntu SDK, is this a good place to get help?
[12:16] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust,  5 yrs to me isn't a long time
[12:20] <BluesKaj> watsug,  perhaps #ubuntu-devel might be a better place to ask
[12:20] <watsug> ok, will go there, thanks
[12:34] <hole_> anyone here use mixxx for dj'ing?
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> hole_  #ubuntustudio is multimedia dedicated
[12:58] <binarydepth> Do I have to configure Ubuntu 15.04  for SSD's  ?
[12:59] <Bucky_Ball> binarydepth: no. You shouldn't need to. Are you talking about trim?
[12:59] <binarydepth> Yes
[12:59] <binarydepth> And anything else I don't know
[13:00] <Bucky_Ball> No. I think trim is set up by default in 15.04. There is nothing else you need to know about. Treat it like a regular hard drive ... but faster! :)
[13:01] <Bucky_Ball> You might want to look here: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=trim+ubuntu+15.04 Tons of info about it. :)
[13:03] <binarydepth> TY!!!!, Can I expect the same configuration towards SSD's in Ubuntu GNOME ? , I went to their channel but there's nobody.
[13:03] <cfhowlett> binarydepth, shouldn't matter.  gnome is merely the gui and has nothing to do with ssd configurations
[13:04] <binarydepth> Right, Thanks!!
[13:05] <binarydepth> I notice something
[13:05] <binarydepth> if this Trim is done to the root file system, will it Trim the esternal HDD plugged ?
[13:08] <binarydepth> I mean "fstrim -v /"
[13:08] <binarydepth> this point to "/media" too
[13:16] <anomonus2015> guys is htere anyway to stop al screens from displaying white in the background ? even web pages ?
[13:17] <Abhijit> hi
[13:17] <Bucky_Ball> hi
[13:17] <Abhijit> i was following this guide and created the myproject in /etc/init but sudo start myproject gives start command not found ls /etc/init shows myproject is there
[13:17] <Abhijit> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-serve-flask-applications-with-uwsgi-and-nginx-on-ubuntu-14-04
[13:18] <Abhijit> i am unbuntu 15.04
[13:18] <Abhijit> is it different for 15.04?
[13:19] <DropBox> hello Can anyone with installing an HP laserJet P1102w can't able to download hplip-3.15.7.
[13:19] <Abhijit> DropBox, what happends when you type sudo apt-get install hplip in terminal?
[13:20] <DropBox> It start comes up able to connect
[13:20] <Abhijit> ??
[13:21] <Abhijit> DropBox, you are downloading it from a website?
[13:22] <DropBox> tryed everything / hp- setup with IP of printer
[13:23] <Abhijit> you said that you cant download hplip. Now you say connection error with printer?
[13:23] <DropBox> yes
[13:23] <Bucky_Ball> HPLip is in the repositories. Try Software Centre if you are trying from a terminal.
[13:23] <Abhijit> !details DropBox
[13:23] <Abhijit> :-o
[13:23] <DropBox> ok
[13:23] <Bucky_Ball> Always check the repositories rather than leaping for a third-party .deb, download or PPA.
[13:24] <DropBox> thanks will do
[13:25] <Bucky_Ball> Grabbing things from outside the repos increases the chances of installing something that is not for your release and therefore confusing the issue further. If it comes from your repos, then you know it has been checked by canonical for compatibility with your release.
[13:25] <Bucky_Ball> :)
[13:26] <en1gma> im on an ssd install of ubuntu 15.04 on Z97 chipset with I7 (cpu-gpu hdmi out) and i have a dedicated 9600gt (dvi to vga out). the OS is "updated and upgraded but not dist-upgraded"  my bios is set to PCIE (9600gt).
[13:26] <en1gma> right now im on the nouveau driver and im getting ready to install an nvidia binary driver
[13:27] <en1gma> i have problems if i use additional drivers area in update-manager so i downloaded the drivers and am getting ready to manual install with lightdm turned off
[13:27] <en1gma> do i need to install dkms before i install nvidia binary?
[13:28] <en1gma> and when installing the nvidia binary i should select dkms option = on?
[13:31] <bababooo> I need to install linux in a computer with windows 8.1 that has uefi.  I tried Debian, which failed to boot apperantly due to uefi .  Is Ubuntu having the same problem?
[13:31] <Abhijit> no.
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> !uefi | bababooo start here
[13:31] <Abhijit> bababooo, try liveusb
[13:31] <en1gma> go into your bios and mess with boot uefi usb stick
[13:32] <en1gma> its probably booting to the non-uefi usb option instead of uefi
[13:32] <en1gma> you also have to create the stick in windows 8.1
[13:32] <en1gma> bbiab. gonna try and manual install nvidia binary
[13:33] <RealPanV> Hi, I need your help
[13:33] <bababooo> !uefi
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> RealPanV  let's hear it
[13:37] <RealPanV> Can you suggest stuff about laptops here
[13:37] <RealPanV> ?
[13:37] <RealPanV> which can run ubuntu
[13:39] <Abhijit> RealPanV, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[13:40] <RealPanV> what is that?
[13:40] <RealPanV> lemme visit
[13:45] <RealPanV> erm.. yeah, do you know laptops Ubuntu Certified with at least 4gb and 100+ Gb, which can run games at 30+ fps like minecraft or garry's mod? less than 200 euros, because I am greek and.. you know
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> RealPanV  this is the support channel, better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:46] <aqd> why does video tearing still exist with nouveau driver? vsync is on by default
[13:46] <RealPanV> Ok. Thanm you
[13:47] <aqd> installing nvidia back and tearing is gone, but it makes compiz slow
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> aqd, start from the beginning
[13:48] <aqd> MonkeyDust, it's clean setup. just nouveau on gtx 760 and mplayer films with vdpau, and there is serious tearing unless video is in small window (like 1000px wide)
[13:48] <aqd> MonkeyDust, any film on full hd shows tearing right in the middle (vertical line)
[13:54] <Nokaji> somehow my drives have become renamed, i can still access them but various links of course no longer function, eg - HDD1 or MUSIC  becomes - /mnt/369454A4945467FF
[13:54] <EriC^^> Nokaji: that's odd
[13:55] <EriC^^> Nokaji: type sudo blkid | nc termbin.com
[13:55] <EriC^^> Nokaji: type sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:55] <EriC^^> Nokaji: and cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:59] <Nokaji> Thanls EriC^^, can i ask what that lot does?
[14:00] <EriC^^> Nokaji: shows the disks/partitions and what you have set to mount in fstab
[14:01] <Nokaji> not sure i am getting much response from it 1/ http://termbin.com/2lx8
[14:02] <Nokaji> 2/ This is nc from the netcat-openbsd package. An alternative nc is available
[14:02] <Nokaji> no list of stuff
[14:03] <EriC^^> Nokaji: ok, type mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:06] <Nokaji> http://termbin.com/rqm3
[14:07] <Nokaji> I see what it is doing now
[14:07] <vudew> i have problem, sshfs and curlftpfs mounting points keep on freezing. does anybody know this issue ?
[14:07] <EriC^^> Nokaji: everything seems mounted
[14:08] <Nokaji> it says: /dev/sda2 on /mnt/369454A4945467FF
[14:08] <Nokaji> those listed as such are the ones renamed
[14:08] <ubuntu003> hey i have problem  such as http://askubuntu.com/questions/224866/does-lvm-option-delete-existing-operating-systems
[14:09] <Nokaji> 4 of them .... those listed as follows are normal: /dev/sdb6 on /media/tris/750GB
[14:09] <ubuntu003> what can i do i don t understand anythin
[14:09] <Nokaji> eg the lack of meaningful names but instead long alphanumerics
[14:10] <Nokaji> they are all mounted, yeah but the linked paths for the 4 no longer function form programme calls etc (or bookmarks)
[14:11] <ubuntu003> plz help me http://askubuntu.com/questions/224866/does-lvm-option-delete-existing-operating-systems
[14:13] <EriC^^> Nokaji: that's odd, from what program calls?
[14:13] <Nokaji> eg all the stored playlists in Rhythmbox
[14:13] <Nokaji> bookmark stuff
[14:15] <ubuntu348> heyy plz help me i have problem this http://askubuntu.com/questions/224866/does-lvm-option-delete-existing-operating-systems
[14:15] <Nokaji> I'm guessing I can set it back in 'disks' somehow
[14:16] <ubuntu348> nokaji ??
[14:16] <ubuntu348> what i am doing
[14:17] <daftykins> ubuntu348: you installed with LVM on top of a disk with Windows on?
[14:18] <ubuntu348> yes
[14:18] <Nokaji> ubuntu348: sorry, I'm struggling here myself at the mo'
[14:18] <ubuntu348> i install lvm optin
[14:18] <daftykins> ubuntu348: what are you in right now? live session?
[14:19] <ubuntu348> now ubuntu is clearly run but i don reached other system such as
[14:19] <ubuntu348> linux mint or other
[14:19] <Nokaji> EriC^^: I see under 'disks' that they are all "Mount Point" under /mnt/blah05938895953  - so there must be some translator somewhere that gets it to point at a real name
[14:20] <daftykins> ubuntu348: ok, sounds like you wiped the disk. open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[14:20] <daftykins> ubuntu348: after the above command, run "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[14:20] <ubuntu348> ok thaks..
[14:20] <ubuntu348> i will trying
[14:21] <studio_> hi
[14:22] <studio_> is ubuntu-next not working under virtualbox 5.0?
[14:26] <studio_> i can't login on the via ui, via right Strg + F1 it is working, is there a known bug?
[14:27] <daftykins> studio_: do you enter your password, then it kicks you back out?
[14:27] <studio_> yes
[14:27] <daftykins> studio_: test the guest session works fine
[14:28] <studio_> ok, will try. i am still updating the sytem ...
[14:28] <studio_> system
[14:32] <studio_> hmm, got an error after updating the system. after Rebulding /usr/.../bamf-2.index ... something with pearl: BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at -e line 2.  ?
[14:32] <daftykins> show it complete in a pastebin
[14:32] <daftykins> we can't make much use of chopped output :)
[14:32] <daftykins> but essentially any compilation isn't packaged ubuntu packages by the sounds of it
[14:33] <studio_> @daftykins how to copy out that text from virtual box?
[14:33] <daftykins> oh so this wasn't even a physical machine, bleh - you people need to state this when you ask for help
[14:33] <daftykins> SSH?
[14:34] <studio_> ok, will try that ...
[14:37] <studio_> @daftykins btw. Gastzugang (Guest) is not working here :(
[14:37] <daftykins> that suggests a system wide issue as opposed to an issue with your account
[14:38] <k1l> i am not sure that ubuntu enxt is supposed to work in vbox at all.
[14:38] <k1l> *ubuntu-next
[14:40] <studio_> i am using wily-desktop-amd64.iso from 29-May-2015 under virtual box 5.0, because old vbox 4.x.x got problems with kernels higher than 3.16 ...
[14:41] <daftykins> studio_: ah - we don't support wily yet. it's not final - #ubuntu+1 for that.
[14:43] <studio_> @daftykins, the problem is only under ubuntu-next-desktop, but not under ubuntustudio 15.10. has it something to do with mir?
[14:43] <daftykins> i didn't even think mir was in use yet, but like i said 15.10 isn't supported yet - so even if i knew i'd not be helping with it
[14:43] <k1l> studio_: yes
[14:44] <k1l> daftykins: its the ubuntu-next iso. that is the MIR testing iso
[14:44] <studio_> @k1l, ah, ok
[14:45] <daftykins> odd, i did not get that from wily-desktop-amd64.iso :)
[14:48] <studio_> @k1l, is there a chance to get it work under vbox 5.0, i thought first the problem came from bbox 4.x.x ...
[14:48] <studio_> vbox 4.x.x
[14:49] <k1l> see the ubuntu-next team and ask them if its meant to work in vbox at all. last time i checked (some time ago) it wasnt supposed to run in vbox
[14:51] <studio_> @k1l, is here a channel for ubuntu-next?
[14:52] <daftykins> use !alis to find one
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> studio_  #ubuntu+1
[14:52] <k1l> Unity 8 fails to start without 3d graphics drivers. This means VMs like virtualbox is unlikely to work (vmware might work with the 3d driver)
[14:52] <k1l> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8DesktopIso
[14:56] <studio_> @MonkeyDust, thanks
[15:23] <jam_> hi all, I have some problem understanding how to deal with permissions, HOw can I for example give a user permission to install curl (sudo apt-get install curl) without giving him any other permissions ?
[15:23] <daftykins> jam_: you can't
[15:24] <Ozzelot> jam_: Exactly... That's impossible. Either he has sudo privileges or he doesn't have them.
[15:26] <jam_> Ozzelot daftykins , is it not possible to edit the sudoer list or something?
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> jam_  sudo visudo    <-- careful
[15:27] <daftykins> jam_: what's the point? if you want someone to have a program on another host, SSH in and install it - i don't see the issue
[15:27] <daftykins> why enable someone else to install a single package or set of packages, when your knowledge of them requiring them instantly means you could have provided them from the outset? :)
[15:31] <Seveas> jam_: sure it's possible, syntax would be: username_here ALL=(ALL) /usr/bin/apt-get install curl
[15:32] <jam_> daftykins,  The curl command was just an example,  It is for my own use on my own machine,  some command I use many times everyday, for example start my VPN server.  It should make sense that some command did not require sudo
[15:32] <rajiv_> How to install ubuntu software center in linux mint environment
[15:33] <jam_> ah, thanks Servas !
[15:33] <jam_> ah, thanks Seveas !
[15:33] <xangua> !mint | rajiv_
[15:35] <Seveas> jam_: to not require a password you can use username_here ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/apt-get install curl
[15:36] <rajiv_> How to install refresh option in ubuntu 14.0.2
[15:36] <jam_> Seveas, thanks for getting me on the right track, I will do some reading about this.
[15:36] <cfhowlett> rajiv_, first you have to install ubuntu.  come back after you have done so.  mint is not supported here.
[15:37] <rajiv_> Ok...
[15:40] <Seveas> jam_: man sudoers
[15:40] <Seveas> though that manpage is scary
[15:40] <blackwc> where is libxml directory?
[15:40] <blackwc> I installed libxml2-dev
[15:41] <Seveas> blackwc: there is no such thing as a 'libxml directory'. What are you trying to do?
[15:41] <blackwc> there should be an libxml directory with headers
[15:41] <blackwc> for libxml
[15:41] <Seveas> blackwc: and there is.
[15:41] <blackwc> and that's where
[15:41] <Seveas> why do you need to know it?
[15:42] <blackwc> because I'mtrying to compile something and it cannot find it
[15:42] <blackwc> but it should be in the global includes
[15:42] <blackwc> will you stop answering my questions with questions?
[15:42] <blackwc> if you don't know then just ignore me
[15:42] <jam_> Seveas, yes and you are not alone thinking they are scary,  http://aplawrence.com/Basics/sudo.html
[15:42] <Seveas> that's what pkg-config is for. The makefile of what you're trying to compile should use it to find those files.
[15:43] <Seveas> blackwc: I ask questions to make sure I give the right answers. If you don't want the right answers, feel free to ignore me :)
[15:43] <blackwc> where is the libxml
[15:43] <blackwc> folder
[15:44] <ioria> try here /usr/include/libxml2/libxml
[15:44] <blackwc> ioria: it's not there
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> blackwc  in /var/lib/ and /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[15:45] <blackwc> actually nevermind
[15:45] <blackwc> sorry guys
[15:45] <blackwc> I saw in synaptic that it was installed but apparently it wasn't
[15:45] <ioria> dpkg -l libxml2
[15:46] <blackwc> thanks! :)
[15:46] <ioria> blackwc, the lib should be /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/   if you are 64 bit
[15:50] <b4rnst0rm> /mode $me +x
[15:50] <b4rnst0rm> /mode $me +x
[15:52] <bitcoinassassin> Hi. Running fsck or e2fsck against a drive /dev/sdf and get the "Bad magic number in super-block" error message; not sure how to proceed; it's an ext4 partition;
[15:52] <easyOnMe> hello people
[15:52] <bitcoinassassin> hey easy
[15:53] <easyOnMe> is it likely that an ubuntu laptop can get a virus or get hacked
[15:53] <easyOnMe> earlier today my officemate claims that's what happened to his ubuntu laptop
[15:53] <bitcoinassassin> easyOnMe: not many viruses are written against *nix OSes;
[15:53] <Ozzelot> easyOnMe: Viruses are highly unlikely.
[15:54] <Ozzelot> Hacking? A little more.
[15:54] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, likely? no.  impossible?  no.
[15:54] <bitcoinassassin> easyOnMe: hacking is another question. depends on your security, etc.
[15:54] <easyOnMe> he said that his nephew used his laptop to watch porn yesterday afternoon when he was away
[15:54] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, right.  the nephew ...
[15:55] <bitcoinassassin> cfhowlett: funny
[15:55] <easyOnMe> so just this afternoon he claims that his netbeans does not function properly
[15:55] <easyOnMe> because simple stuff like control c and control v does not seemed to work properly and that his mouse cursor seems to move in the direction that he does not even wish to
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> easyOnMe  "the nephew of a friend", how reliable is that source
[15:56] <easyOnMe> that was his claim
[15:56] <cyberalex4life> easyOnMe, well one short solution would be to  remove .netbeans from /home/$USER
[15:56] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, asked and answered, then.
[15:56] <cyberalex4life> easyOnMe, then redo his settings
[15:56] <easyOnMe> he message me to come over and help him out I did not as I do not know how to help him too
[15:57] <cyberalex4life> it depend also if he uses or not netbeans from ubuntu repository
[15:58] <easyOnMe> the things is I do not know whether his ubuntu is compromise for one and secondly if it was I do not know how to help him other than advise him to reinstall and tell his 'nephew' not to watch porn on his laptop or better hide his laptop
[15:58] <easyOnMe> thirdly, I am not sure too whether it was just netbeans that acted strangely
[15:58] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, easiest thing is to: 1. create a NON-sudo user for everyday use.  2. create another normal user for him. or 3. nuke all his .config files in /home and 4. teach the "nephew" how to use the guest account so that these things don't happen again
[15:58] <easyOnMe> so out of my little knowledge I came here tonight to learn a bit more about security stuff
[15:59] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: thanks
[15:59] <cyberalex4life> easyOnMe, hey, no reinstall! Open Nautilus then Ctrl+H to show hidden files and folders
[15:59] <cyberalex4life> easyOnMe, then delete .netbeans
[15:59] <easyOnMe> but no. 3 I am not sure if I got it completely
[15:59] <easyOnMe> when you say nuke what do you mean by it
[15:59] <cyberalex4life> it means remove
[16:00] <cyberalex4life> delete all his personal settings every day
[16:00] <easyOnMe> cyberalex4life: oh so you mean even if the nephew did watch porn there so long as he uses the guest account there is no way that his laptop gets compromise by whatever malware from porn sites
[16:00] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, as suggested above, reset his settings.  since all settings are contained in /home/nephew'sUncle, deleting all .hidden files, logout/login will reset eEVERYthing
[16:01] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, guest account gets wiped as soon as you logout.  no system changes possible from the guest account
[16:01] <cyberalex4life> easyOnMe, kind of, Guest account has very little privilleges
[16:01] <easyOnMe> oh ok
[16:02] <easyOnMe> how do I copy and all the suggestions here and email it to him
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> !av | easyOnMe read this too
[16:02] <easyOnMe> all I know is control a and copy and then paste it on a gedit
[16:02] <cyberalex4life> easyOnMe, the problem may be solved like I said :remove .netbeans from /home/[uncle] then start netbeans
[16:03] <easyOnMe> cyberalex4life: ok I got it
[16:03] <easyOnMe> cyberalex4life: just curious the .netbeans folder is for what
[16:04] <easyOnMe> what is it similar if linux were a windows environment
[16:04] <cyberalex4life> these are the settings for every program (that one is for netbeans)
[16:04] <YamakasY> hi guys, this is not working in my mirror.list trusty main main/installer-amd64
[16:04] <easyOnMe> oh I see
[16:05] <easyOnMe> ok so thank you people for the advise I make sure it reaches him poor fella did not manage to complete his work we got some deadlines tomorrow lol
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> easyOnMe  from wikipedia: "The NetBeans IDE is primarily intended for development in Java, but also supports other languages, in particular PHP, C/C++ and HTML5.[4]"
[16:05] <cyberalex4life> easyOnMe, deleting theme usually means fresh netbeans install
[16:05] <easyOnMe> cyberalex4life: what?
[16:05] <easyOnMe> so if he deletes his .netbeans in the home folder that's it
[16:06] <easyOnMe> he can not run netbeans anymore and he needs to reinstall it again
[16:06] <easyOnMe> oh dear it is not that easy to install netbeans I mean installing netbeans is a bit tedious
[16:07] <cyberalex4life> easyOnMe, and he'll have to redo his settings again, but if the projects folder is the same, he doesn't loose the projects
[16:08] <cyberalex4life> easyOnMe, depending, on where netbeans is installed, that is the settings folder for his installation, if it is removed, netbeans will start new default settings as if it were just installed
[16:09] <cyberalex4life> easyOnMe, if .netbeans is removed Netbeans will recreate it: it will be just like a fresh install
[16:09] <easyOnMe> cyberalex4life: oh ok so if the .netbeans folder is deleted only the settings of his old netbeans are deleted but he can still run netbeans on his laptop is my understanding correct
[16:09] <easyOnMe> hope that is true we need to present tomorrow
[16:09] <cyberalex4life> easyOnMe, yup
[16:09] <anomonus2015> guys we got any RTS for ubuntu ?
[16:09] <anomonus2015> like Total Annihilation ?
[16:09] <cfhowlett> !games | anomonus2015
[16:09] <easyOnMe> anomonus2015: what is RTS
[16:10] <cyberalex4life> easyOnMe, if he can manage with the actual state of netbeans, I suggest he'd keep it until tomorrow this way
[16:10] <anomonus2015> Real Time Strategy lke command n conquer
[16:11] <easyOnMe> cyberalex4life: that one I am not too sure but from the looks of it I do not think so because he wouldn't be messaging for help if he did manage to use netbeans
[16:11] <easyOnMe> about the mouse cursor moving in the direction that he says he did not intend to or did not even do so
[16:11] <easyOnMe> is that possible to happen on his ubuntu laptop like it was remotely controlled
[16:12] <easyOnMe> he says he has no teamviewer on his laptop so remotely control is not possible yet the mouse seems to behave as if it was remotely controlled
[16:12] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, again: extremely unlikely but not impossible
[16:12] <cyberalex4life> well something is cracked in there for sure
[16:12] <easyOnMe> man our software files are in his laptop
[16:12] <easyOnMe> wait better call him now to back everything up
[16:13] <cyberalex4life> cfhowlett, presuming a porn site would execute something locally ....
[16:13] <easyOnMe> cyberalex4life: how likely is it that those files in his laptop are not copied and sent some place else
[16:13] <cfhowlett> cyberalex4life, I'm trying very hard not to imagine the ways the "nephew" could have fragged the system
[16:14] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: what do you mean fragged
[16:14] <easyOnMe> man months of hard work might get wasted
[16:14] <easyOnMe> how likely are files in his laptop to be stolen given the info I shared to all of you
[16:14] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, fragged = fragmentation grenade = total destruction.  see counter-strike for reference
[16:15] <easyOnMe> oh ok
[16:15] <easyOnMe> so about the files getting stolen how likely is it given the state of his laptop right now
[16:15] <cyberalex4life> easyOnMe, I looked now at the install method for netbeans (downloaded from website), I think removing .netbeans will solve the problem
[16:15] <easyOnMe> shutting the laptop I am sure will no longer cause further exposure to online theft right?
[16:16] <cyberalex4life> easyOnMe, very unlikely I guess...
[16:16] <easyOnMe> cyberalex4life: ok cool but is my friend's laptop totally messed up that our work files might get stolen and sent some place else
[16:17] <cyberalex4life> stop the internet
[16:17] <easyOnMe> cyberalex4life: when you say unlikely you mean 90% chance of not getting stolen
[16:17] <cyberalex4life> kill wifi
[16:17] <easyOnMe> cyberalex4life: no better yet shut it of till we reach office tomorrow
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> easyOnMe  what's worrying you?
[16:17] <easyOnMe> the files
[16:18] <YamakasY> no-one running a local mirror ?
[16:18] <easyOnMe> months and months of work getting stolen going places we might not know where
[16:18] <cyberalex4life> easyOnMe, I'm not a beginner anymore, so I stay away of crazy things, I can't imagine how someone that doesn't know could destroy something
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> easyOnMe  who would want your fiels and why?
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> files*
[16:18] <easyOnMe> well these were the info I got from him
[16:19] <easyOnMe> those files are in development for months
[16:19] <cyberalex4life> easyOnMe, there is an antivirus for ubuntu (actually many) clamav and clamtk (the graphical interface)
[16:19] <easyOnMe> that's all i care I worked hard on it and I do not want them going to competition just because of some carelessness
[16:20] <easyOnMe> anyway, I just called up and he says since this afternoon he never used his laptop anymore
[16:20] <easyOnMe> any thanks people
[16:20] <cyberalex4life> easyOnMe, well go with God, it's the least you can do, solve netbeans problems, see if things work
[16:20] <easyOnMe> as for me I need to create a new account here where i will use for everyday work
[16:21] <easyOnMe> cyberalex4life: ok thanks for that advise
[16:21] <easyOnMe> I will keep the root password safe and as much as possible use the sudo account
[16:21] <easyOnMe> that way I can secure my laptop is that correct
[16:21] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, wait what?
[16:21] <easyOnMe> as for mundane matters just use guest account
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> easyOnMe  what do you think can happen?
[16:22] <easyOnMe> MonkeyDust: no just quit worrying now
[16:22] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, also, you might want to have him enabled the firewall
[16:22] <easyOnMe> anyway laptop is shut down
[16:22] <cyberalex4life> yeah easyOnMe what kind of secret stuff are you doing there, should we worry you'─æ nuke us?
[16:23] <easyOnMe> cyberalex4life: lol
[16:23] <easyOnMe> not really
[16:23] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: no first thing tomorrow I will ask our IT guys to "educate us" further on linux
[16:23] <easyOnMe> I used to work on windows environment with my development work
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> easyOnMe  1) it's much safer than windows
[16:24] <easyOnMe> I began using ubuntu early part of last year
[16:24] <easyOnMe> and even until now i am still learning the ropes and plenty of things to learn and discover
[16:25] <YamakasY> any apt specialist around ?
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> YamakasY  ask your question and wait
[16:25] <easyOnMe> the other day one guy here got a shocked of his life that I do not know that sudo reboot command on the terminal exist after one year of using linux that's how the sorry state of my knowledge in linux is
[16:25] <easyOnMe> but I am continuously trying to learn as much as I a can
[16:25] <YamakasY> MonkeyDust: I see that such stuff is less known
[16:25] <easyOnMe> good thing this channel exist and it always rocks when it comes to knowledge sharing
[16:26] <SchrodingersScat> easyOnMe: people learn new things every day, we're all teachers and students, etc.
[16:26] <anomonus2015> hey guys any recommendations for a game or two that will run on ubuntu but with an old centrio duo laptop with intel graphics and 3 gb ram ?
[16:27] <easyOnMe> cyberalex4life cfhowlett and Monekydust thanks for the advise
[16:27] <easyOnMe> kudos to you fellas
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> anomonus2015  #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:27] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, reading full circle magazine is like a free ubuntu seminar.  www.fullcirclemagazine.org
[16:27] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: thanks man
[16:27] <easyOnMe> cool
[16:27] <easyOnMe> SchrodingersScat: yup
[16:27] <kudos> No
[16:27] <easyOnMe> thanks
[16:27] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, happy2help!
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> easyOnMe  and yes, linux has inconveniences too
[16:29] <easyOnMe> MonkeyDust: least the inconveniences does not compromise security
[16:29] <easyOnMe> like you all say linux are less likely to get attacked by viruses
[16:29] <Guest57> Where do I go about downloading sources for custom roms for android?
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> easyOnMe  if you encounter a virus, share it with as many online linux magazines as you can
[16:30] <cyberalex4life_> easyOnMe, netbeans does his own updates from time to time, what if the updates bring some new stuff that aren't compatible with the old ones
[16:30] <easyOnMe> but one cool thing in linux is that you can get upgrades for free
[16:30] <cfhowlett> Guest53037, ask #android
[16:30] <easyOnMe> cyberalex4life_: well so far since I used netbeans for two years now I have yet to encounter netbeans going haywire
[16:30] <cyberalex4life_> easyOnMe, or maybe, when closed, something got corrupted, not closing nicely?
[16:30] <easyOnMe> my friends predicament just sounds so weird though
[16:31] <easyOnMe> cyberalex4life_: well that one I am not too surely and I am also not too sure how he closes his netbeans
[16:31] <cyberalex4life_> easyOnMe, I had problems from time to time with libreoffice, not with netbeans, as I remember
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> easyOnMe  do you always talk that much?
[16:31] <easyOnMe> MonkeyDust: I just happen to get enthuse by the discussion that's all
[16:32] <cyberalex4life_> easyOnMe, this is the moment we are redirected to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:32] <easyOnMe> cyberalex4life_: ok no problem
[16:32] <easyOnMe> see guys later
[16:33] <OhYash> Hi, I have a little question. My laptop's HDD is very slow (wasnt super slow when I got it) but now it is. Also, it has some VERY good number of badsectors. Bootup takes around 40 seconds. All browsers take forever to show up n baaically everything is very slow. But it works so is there any way I can speed it up without buying a new one?
[16:34] <easyOnMe> cyberalex4life_: are you doing software development stuff
[16:34] <cfhowlett> OhYash, your hdd is failing.  it WILL fail at the worst possible moment.  plan ahead
[16:34] <mguy> OhYash: no, and it would sound like you should replace it ASAP
[16:34] <xangua> Mmm I just turn off secureboot, but it enables back :/ I'm new to this UEFI thing
[16:34] <cyberalex4life_> OhYash, I have non working anymore kind of laptop that behaves the same in this matter (it doesn't start always though)
[16:34] <OhYash> I have around 114000 bad sectors (as 'gnome-disks' says)
[16:35] <Leonitus> ohYash: get a solid state hard drive and you won't regret it
[16:35] <cyberalex4life_> easyOnMe, not quite, or not yet, I still have to solve problems for my study at university, that's all, and tried in time all kind of crazy stuff
[16:36] <easyOnMe> cyberalex4life_: oh ok
[16:36] <cyberalex4life_> OhYash, it's time to change your hdd at least...
[16:36] <easyOnMe> MonkeyDust: have you tried software development before
[16:37] <OhYash> I cant buy a new HDD/SSD before 6months :(
[16:37] <cyberalex4life_> easyOnMe, I did my dizertation for faculty in netbeans, so some stuff I also know
[16:37] <Leonitus> OhYash: bummer
[16:37] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: have you tried software development before
[16:38] <easyOnMe> cyberalex4life_: you mean you use netbeans like a word processor/
[16:38] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, python has 2 complete programming courses available at python.org
[16:38] <b4rnst0rm> exit
[16:38] <cyberalex4life_> nopf, I actualy did some encryption visual app in java
[16:38] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: no I am asking you if you did programming before
[16:39] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, a bit.  not really my thing.
[16:39] <easyOnMe> cyberalex4life_: oh ok
[16:39] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: ok thanks so you are more into web server admin kind of stuff
[16:39] <cyberalex4life_> easyOnMe, now I'm learning some sdl in eclipse an C
[16:40] <xangua> So I just enabled Legacy mode, select to save an exit, try to boot from usb stick and get the message "secure boot forbids loading module", go to check UEFI settings and secure boot is enabled back. any suggestion apreciated.
[16:41] <cyberalex4life_> easyOnMe, I didn't do enterprise stuff though, learned a bit of here, a bit of there
[16:42] <cyberalex4life_> xangua, how did you do your USB?
[16:42] <cyberalex4life_> the stick...
[16:45] <easyOnMe> cyberalex4life_: oh so you are more into hard core languages
[16:45] <easyOnMe> for me I am more into web development
[16:45] <easyOnMe> reason I ask is I just trying my luck whether you had experience in web development
[16:45] <xangua> cyberalex4life_: after disabling secure boot and enable legacy, rebooted, pressed esc key, selected boot options and selected my usb stick (grub 2 on it, multiboot, Ubuntu, Xubuntu)
[16:45] <easyOnMe> got some issues on my head right now that need asnwers
[16:45] <easyOnMe> answers
[16:46] <welldone> hello
[16:46] <xangua> Goint to disable this fasboot option in Windows
[16:46] <cyberalex4life_> xangua, legacy meaning non UEFI?
[16:47] <cyberalex4life_> xangua, and Ubuntu with Unetbootin or startup disk creator?
[16:48] <xangua> I'm new to this, can I boot with Ubuntu and secureboot┬┐ cyberalex4life_, going to try in a few minutes and I was reading that I may need the 64bit build since I only have 32 on this sticks
[16:49] <cyberalex4life_> xangua, well I even heard that someone bought a laptop and could not Windows 7 on it, only 8 (crazy)
[16:49] <cyberalex4life_> put..
[16:51] <Leonitus> Hey everyone, I'm using xfce4 and I'm having an odd problem with my mouse. In my firefox window, my cursor is black, and in my desktop, my cursor is white. Is there a way for my cursor to be just black?
[16:58] <YamakasY> err this is annoying
[16:59] <YamakasY> it doesn't download the installerfiles at all
[17:00] <Galaxiality> g
[17:05] <snkcld> i have an i7, kernel 4.1, using the intel pstate driver. all of a sudden, powertop shows that each core has a max of 900mhz... does this possibly mean ive fried my proc sufficiently that it wont report higher clock speeds?
[17:06] <snkcld> or is it possible this is simply a software issue, and that i need to configure something to turn on those higher speeds? i didnt change _anything_ since yesterday. im thinking i overheated the machine and that now it doesnt want to enable those speeds >_<
[17:06] <snkcld> would the kernel log say anything like "1.2ghz disabled due to blah blah" ?
[17:06] <tonyt> if you fried your proc, the machine wont start
[17:06] <tonyt> it either works or it dont
[17:07] <snkcld> well, i dont mean fried it to that degree
[17:07] <snkcld> i just mean that it overheated and so the processor has shut off that capability
[17:07] <snkcld> iirc, its intelligent enough to do that
[17:08] <YamakasY> it seems that you need to rsync the netinstaller filer
[17:08] <YamakasY> *files
[17:10] <amicrawler> oin
[17:10] <snkcld> interesting, soon as i echo performance > scaling_governor, the speeds are shown in powertop
[17:11] <amicrawler> can't boot from usb 15.04 64bit
[17:12] <amicrawler> giving me errors
[17:12] <amicrawler> it format to fat32
[17:12] <amicrawler> getting errors no grub or boot splash
[17:13] <snkcld> but its still never going above 800 mhz
[17:14] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | amicrawler, either your ubuntu.iso is bad or your USB failed.  verify with md5sum
[17:14] <amicrawler> humm
[17:16] <amicrawler> i got it from ubunut 15.04
[17:19] <laz> hey how can solution this http://askubuntu.com/questions/224866/does-lvm-option-delete-existing-operating-systems
[17:19] <laz> plz help me
[17:23] <lazbiyo> heyy how can solution this http://askubuntu.com/questions/224866/does-lvm-option-delete-existing-operating-systems
[17:24] <lazbiyo> plz help me
[17:27] <YamakasY> anyone an idea how to manage this with apt-mirror ? /ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/initrd.gz
[17:27] <YamakasY> or the whole installer-amd64 ?
[17:30] <AppAraat> hi, I want to run a script at startup as root (before user logs in). I am referring to this - http://askubuntu.com/questions/290099/how-to-run-a-script-during-boot-as-root - but I don't have /etc/rc2.d on my 14.04 install.
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[17:32] <SchrodingersScat> !spam | peelback
[17:32] <DJones> peelback: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
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[17:32] <peelback> !op SchrodingersCat is giving sexual advances in #ubuntu
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[17:33] <peelback> !op | SchrodingersCat is giving sexual advances in #ubuntu
[17:33] <felina> What in the world just happend? o.O
[17:33] <AppAraat> would it also suffice if I add the script to @reboot as cronjob? I have /home encrypted and script is located there.
[17:34] <regedit> lol it SchrodingersScat i think you triggered it on yourself instead of peelback
[17:35] <AppAraat> felina: guy came in here spamming and made it harder for people who ask real support questions in this channel.
[17:35] <regedit> also  please help! my mouse doesnt move anymore :( what's the magic command to reset it?
[17:35] <regedit> i can scroll and even right click, just movement doesnt work
[17:36] <AppAraat> try going to other TTYs. Press Ctrl+Alt+F1 through F7
[17:36] <regedit> yes i can
[17:36] <regedit> what command can i invoke there?
[17:37] <regedit> i am maneuvering with great difficulties with keyboard meanwhile, really dont want to lose my session here...
[17:37] <czert> Hi....Is here anybody,who speak czech?
[17:38] <AppAraat> regedit: not sure what command you should issue. Usually mouse glitches were switched by temporarily switching to/from TTYs.
[17:38] <amicrawler> any super nerds in this room
[17:38] <regedit> not helping..
[17:38] <amicrawler> or sys admins
[17:38] <DJones> !cz | czert
[17:40] <lazbiyo> hey anyone plz heplme http://askubuntu.com/questions/224866/does-lvm-option-delete-existing-operating-systems
[17:40] <amicrawler> where do i paste a png to  can people can see what is going in
[17:40] <amicrawler> ubunut is acting weird
[17:40] <lazbiyo> ihave thsi problem..how can solve
[17:43] <amicrawler> where can i paste my png to
[17:43] <SchrodingersScat> regedit: ops seem to have it under control
[17:45] <amicrawler> this is what im getting http://picpaste.com/ziFDnebb.png
[17:45] <amicrawler> can any body help me with is
[17:46] <amicrawler> i think x is messed up
[17:48] <AppAraat> Why on earth is this not working? http://apaste.info/NGN
[17:48] <AppAraat> it completes the wpa part, but not the dhclient part
[17:52] <squinty> amicrawler,  fwiw, from that screen shot it would appear I had a similar problem after doing a 14.04 -> 15.04 upgrade.  For me personally it was quicker and easier to just reinstall 14.04 rather than spend a lot of time trying to track down the problem
[17:54] <OerHeks> amicrawler, you again ... with that old screenshot ..
[17:54] <OerHeks> LoLz
[17:54] <broman> can someone help me? im trying to run vmware but im getting "C header files matching your running kernel were not found.  Refer to your distribution's documentation for installation instructions." error
[17:55] <Tekkkz> Hello
[17:55] <AppAraat> figured it out, that wpa_supplicant stays in the shell, so I did -B to run it in background. Afterwards it waited and completed the dhclient command :)
[17:55] <AppAraat> and a marry day to you Tekkkz !
[17:55] <AppAraat> ehm, *merry :)
[17:55] <Tekkkz> how to make following expression with the default calculator: log_2 (100)
[17:55] <Tekkkz> so the logarithmus to the base of 2
[18:00] <baja> hi i am not able to move windows in my desktop can anyone help me please
[18:00] <Marezz> Hello folks
[18:01] <Marezz> How does Ubuntu 15.04 behave with AMD GPU's? More specifically R9 270x?
[18:01] <Marezz> I am interested in installing it and would like to game on it
[18:01] <baja> examlple my xchat window is stuck i cant move it
[18:02] <baja> anyone?i am using creative studio
[18:04] <AppAraat> damniiiiit
[18:04] <baja> ....
[18:06] <AppAraat> why does this script not give me wifi at boot? http://apaste.info/GPl
[18:07] <baja> its sunday no help
[18:08] <ImNew> Hey
[18:08] <trism> Tekkkz: hmm, not seeing a built in command, but you can always do: ln(x)/ln(2)
[18:08] <Tekkkz> yeah i got it already, thx
[18:08] <baja> hi i am not able to move windows in my desktop can anyone help me please
[18:09] <anomonus2015> ok guys do any of you game on linux ?
[18:10] <twocarlo> baja: hold powe button until it restarts by itself
[18:10] <twocarlo> *power
[18:10] <baja> /?
[18:10] <baja> shutdown
[18:11] <Ozzelot> anomonus2015: As far as gaming is concerned, I'm pretty much just using emulators.
[18:11] <anomonus2015> :/ hmmm i dont need new games as im on an old laptop with intel graphics chip
[18:11] <anomonus2015> what emulators you use ?
[18:11] <baja> carlo
[18:12] <twocarlo> baja:what?
[18:12] <baja> you want me shutdown
[18:12] <Ozzelot> anomonus2015: Dolphin and PCSX.
[18:13] <twocarlo> baja:can you move the windows now?
[18:13] <ImNew> can any of you guys/women help me.....
[18:13] <squinty> ImNew,  !ask
[18:13] <squinty> !ask
[18:14] <Ozzelot> anomonus2015: Not sure if Dolphin will work for you at all, but PCSX might if you use OpenGL... It works on my old Pentium D machine with a Radeon X600, so give that a try.
[18:14] <twocarlo> baja:just logoff and logon again
[18:14] <ImNew> everytime i start up Ubuntu it says "error occured" any help....
[18:14] <anomonus2015> hmmm ive a core 2 duo centrino with intell chip ! i can forget it
[18:14] <Ozzelot> Dolphin I imagine is more demanding, using that on my Phenom II X4 with GeForce GT720 with ocassional lag in Zelda: The Wind Waker.
[18:15] <Ozzelot> anomonus2015: Maybe fceux (NES) or Kega Fusion (Sega Master System and Genesis) would work... I ran them on my Atom netbook with GMA X3100, no issues at all.
[18:15] <Ozzelot> Basically, old console emulators should run fine.
[18:16] <ImNew> ?
[18:16] <squinty> !details > squinty
[18:16] <xangua> chrono trigger/chrono cross o/
[18:16] <Ozzelot> PCSX - worth a try; runs on the netbook, but won't get over like 30fps in FF7... But the GMA3150 is really damn low; you'll probably have the GMA950, which is stronger.
[18:17] <squinty> !details > ImNew
[18:17] <baja> nothing happened@carlo
[18:17] <baja> @carlo it shutdown and restarted
[18:17] <twocarlo> baja:just logoff and logon again
[18:18] <Ozzelot> Ahem, that damn thing of mine has a 3150. My bad. ^^
[18:18] <baja> i have but nothing
[18:18] <baja> im using creative studio
[18:19] <baja> i cant move any window even xchat
[18:19] <ImNew> every time i turn on my system it says "System Error Ocurred"
[18:20] <gcbirzan_> how is one supposed to debug his X (and therfore his xubuntu) not starting after installing fglrx?
[18:20] <squinty> baja,  should probably ask in creative studio related channel then.
[18:21] <anomonus2015> Ozzelot, IM MORE INTO ADVENTRE games or rpg so hopefully not too much gpu power necessary
[18:21] <gcbirzan_> I want to be dropped in a shell after it fails to start. how do I do that?
[18:22] <Lazik> gcbirzan_ you can try ctrl+shift+f2
[18:22] <gcbirzan_> there's nos hell there,t hough.
[18:23] <ImNew> hey squinty i've sent you personal message
[18:23] <gcbirzan_> or, well, no login either.
[18:23] <baja> anyone can help. all my windows are not moving ever since i started ubuntu creative studio
[18:23] <Lazik> gcbirzan_ try like f1, f3, f4, ..., nothing?
[18:23] <baja> is it a problem with os?
[18:24] <Lazik> u ctrl+alt+f_x *
[18:24] <baja> lazik??
[18:24] <baja> lazik:
[18:24] <Lazik> baja: i said ctrl+shift+f2, but it's actually ctrl+alt+f2
[18:25] <squinty> !pm | ImNew
[18:25] <baja> lazik:
[18:25] <baja> what is it supposed to do?
[18:25] <gcbirzan_> Lazik: Nope. Nothing. I can't try it right now, on this computer. But, not my first rodeo or whatever. it's still showing me the upstart stuff, cannot get to a shell from there
[18:25] <squinty> ImNew,  channel proceedure is to ask before pm'ing any participant.  personally i do not pm
[18:26] <DjPleata> !ops
[18:26] <StilDeVIata> !ops
[18:26] <AsVreaSaBeau> !ops
[18:26] <dfsd> !ops
[18:26] <SfmaBuci> !ops
[18:26] <TuMaPLaci> !ops
[18:26] <FaraNr1> !ops
[18:26] <trengaru> !ops
[18:26] <Cin`TeCrede> !ops
[18:26] <cosssmin> !ops
[18:26] <ImNew> help please, every time i start up my System it says "System Error Occured"
[18:26] <gcbirzan_> weee.
[18:27] <ImNew> wtf
[18:27] <squinty> ImNew,  i had similar to your problem after doing an upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04  (seemed to be nautilus (Files) related.  as I was also experiencing other buglets I just reinstalled 14.04
[18:27] <Ozzelot> anomonus2015: I won't help with native games much... Like I say, my thing is mostly emulators. If you're into RPGs, I can recommend the entire Final Fantasy series, if you haven't played the hell out ouf that stuff yet. But that's about all I can do.
[18:27] <Lazik> upgrades... lol... never... do... that
[18:27] <ImNew> squinty, im on 14.04?
[18:28] <squinty> ImNew,  might be an idea for you to read the channel rules.  no swearing including acroyms is not allowed here
[18:28] <ImNew> sorry....
[18:28] <Ozzelot> It's spread across a wide range of consoles, many of which you would be able to emulate (the 8bit/16bit era), so that's a possibility.
[18:28] <ImNew> squinty, im on 14.04
[18:28] <squinty> Lazik,  done them before without any problems.
[18:29] <Lazik> not me
[18:30] <Ozzelot> And adventures - if you like point-and-click adventure games, install ScummVM and Beneath a Steel Sky. Was able to play on a 2004 Celeron M laptop with some very, very ancient Intel graphics without any problems.
[18:30] <squinty> ImNew,  have you tried updating to see if that clears the problem.  if it is a new install I personally would just try another install to see if the problem persists first though
[18:30] <ImNew> squinty, how do i update?
[18:31] <baja> @carlo
[18:31] <squinty> ImNew,  look in your menu for Software and Updates
[18:32] <ImNew> okay
[18:32] <baja> help
[18:32] <baja> help
[18:32] <baja> i cant move my windows on my desktop
[18:32] <OerHeks> baja,  ask in #ubuntu-studio
[18:33] <sl1rpy> isn't app-devel the best channel to get advice on application development?
[18:33] <ImNew> squinty, im installing a new update...
[18:33] <baja> squinty :)
[18:35] <ImNew> squinty, my software is updated shall i restart my pc?
[18:36] <Guest77348> hi ! I have a problem with ubuntu 14.04 lts and I updated it to the last updates, it asked me to reboot, so I did, after reboot I loged in and few minutes 1-2 minutes after everithing froze ! no mouse,no alt f2, no hdd usge nothing ! any ideas ?
[18:36] <squinty> ImNew, might be an idea to see if the error message is generated again
[18:37] <Guest77348> so ?
[18:37] <Lazik> Guest77348 sounds like gnome fucking up
[18:38] <Ozzelot> Guest77348: Are you using any 3rd-party graphics drivers? This sometimes happened to me when I installed the Nvidia drivers using their run file... I had to reboot into recovery mode and reinstall it. Then everything was fine. Until the next kernel or graphics or X-related update.
[18:38] <OerHeks> Guest77348, check the logs. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash#log_files
[18:38] <OerHeks> Lazik, please watch your language, keep this channel family friendly, thanks.
[18:39] <Guest77348> well I have intel graphics card !
[18:39] <Lazik> my sorry samantha
[18:39] <Marezz> hi guys, I just installed Ubuntu 15.04 and updated it and then I have installed steam. when I try to run it, nothing happens. When I run it from terminal I get this: https://bpaste.net/show/597c1c3459eb
[18:39] <Marezz> Can someone please help me
[18:39] <Ozzelot> Guest77348: Then it would be Gnome... doing what Lazik said. :D
[18:39] <Guest77348> and how do I fix it ?
[18:39] <OerHeks> Marezz, better try #ubuntu-steam, those guys are specialists
[18:40] <Marezz> OerHeks, I will, thanks for letting me know :)
[18:40] <OerHeks> Guest77348, fix what? did you check the logs for a clue?
[18:40] <Lazik> Guest77348 maybe try to change to xfce or something else
[18:41] <Lazik> or go annoy the devs with your problem, happens to me often in gnome with ubuntu
[18:42] <owen1> ubuntu 15.04. wirless headphones are connected but i can't hear anything when i test the sound.
[18:42] <owen1> any ideas?
[18:43] <xangua> owen1: did you open your sound settings ans selected your headphone output┬┐
[18:44] <owen1> xangua: yup. and tried the 'test sound' button.
[18:44] <Marezz> How come my Firefox plays only 360p via html5 player?
[18:44] <Marezz> I dont even have options for higher res in the player
[18:45] <xangua> Marezz: depends on the video, ask Youtube
[18:45] <Guest77348> ok so any other chanels, where I can bug some nerds with my problem ? :D
[18:46] <xangua> owen1: what if you try to add your headphones again? I remember when I added mines there were two options
[18:46] <Marezz> xangua, It doesnt depend on the video, when I try to play the same video on windows, I get full 1080p but here only 360p :(
[18:46] <Lazik> Guest77348 well you can pastebin your /var/log/xorg.log
[18:46] <owen1> xangua: pair again? i'll try it
[18:47] <xangua> Guest77348: you'll probably get not help with that kind of expresions
[18:47] <Guest77348> oh sory !
[18:47] <Zweii> Hello all
[18:47] <cuddylier> Anyone know the cause of this crash? http://i.spartanhost.net/Er5MCoWd.png
[18:48] <owen1> xangua: i re-paired it. it didn't help
[18:49] <AppAraat> so suppose I encrypted the /home dir. How do I "unencrypt" that. So basically move to an unencrypted /home dir forever.
[18:49] <kostkon> Marezz, http://www.ghacks.net/2013/10/27/youtube-videos-firefox-1080p/
[18:50] <Lazik> cuddylier : do you have 2 cpus?
[18:50] <cuddylier> Yes
[18:51] <Lazik> cuddylier : that's what f***ing up
[18:51] <cuddylier> One of them is dead or messed up or something?
[18:51] <Lazik> my guess would be not supported
[18:51] <tuxus> hello
[18:52] <cuddylier> Oh, it is a Dell node that has 2 x L5520 in it, works fine for months on end then suddenly crashes.
[18:52] <OerHeks> Lazik, WHY ? ..
[18:52] <Zweii> Hello all. My goal is to connect to my account on Shodan.io. I wrote a script but it doesn't make me logged in. I got headers, data etc. from Chrome's tools developer ("curl URL").
[18:52] <Zweii>  Here the code with html results + html form code : http://pastebin.com/Y80vCUwD
[18:52] <Zweii> thanks for the help
[18:52] <Lazik> cuddylier New kernel?
[18:52] <OerHeks> Lazik, i asked you about your language...
[18:52] <cuddylier> Lazik: Have I updated recently or are you saying I should? I haven't updated since I did the first install about a year ago.
[18:53] <Ozzelot> OerHeks: He's censoring it...
[18:53] <squinty> still not allowed here
[18:53] <Lazik> cuddylier: weird, maybe it died?
[18:53] <OerHeks> Ozzelot, even that is unwanted behaviour here, read the channel rules please
[18:54] <cuddylier> Lazik: After a reboot, the two CPUs always work flawlessly and show up and are usable so it's weird, no different this time.
[18:54] <OerHeks> cuddylier, what kernel ?
[18:55] <cuddylier> OerHeks: 3.11.0-15-generic
[18:55] <OerHeks> cuddylier, 12.04.4?
[18:55] <cuddylier> Says it's from 30th January 2014
[18:55] <OerHeks> maybe time to upgrade ..
[18:55] <cuddylier> Yes 12.04
[18:56] <cuddylier> I guess that is one option yes..
[18:56] <OerHeks> i wish we could go straight away to the fixed 4.2 ...
[19:02]  * bobbe doesn't know how to use condoms
[19:02] <Fuchs> bobbe: wrong channel for that, I'm pretty sure
[19:03] <bobbe> Whoopsie
[19:04] <Marezz> Can anyone help me with Steam problem? #ubuntu-steam is a ghost town :(
[19:04] <kostkon> Marezz, just ask
[19:05] <wileee> Marezz, Outline the issue for help from the channel.
[19:05] <Marezz> kostkon, I have freshly installed Ubuntu 15.04, I updated the system and then I installed Steam, when I try to run it by clicking on the icon, nothing happens. When I run it from the terminal, I get this output: https://bpaste.net/show/597c1c3459eb
[19:06] <breno_> can someone help me? im trying to run vmware but im getting "C header files matching your running kernel were not found.  Refer to your distribution's documentation for installation instructions." error
[19:07] <bekks> vmware is a company, not a product.
[19:07] <kostkon> Marezz, http://askubuntu.com/questions/614422/problem-with-installing-steam-on-ubuntu-15-04/614458#614458
[19:07] <bekks> breno_: Can you tell us which Ubuntu you are using, whats the exact error when you try to run/install what exactly?
[19:07] <Ozzelot> bekks: Yeah, then we would be Canonical support here. ^^
[19:08] <bekks> Ozzelot: Something like that - but do we know what Canonical does, besides Ubuntu? :)
[19:08] <breno_> bekks, sorry.. ubuntu 14 vmware workstation...
[19:08] <breno_> 11
[19:08] <bekks> breno_: Which Ubuntu 14?
[19:08] <breno_> 04
[19:08] <bekks> breno_: And which VMware Workstation?
[19:08] <breno_> 11
[19:09] <bekks> And whats the exact, full, unchanged error in a pastebin?
[19:09] <breno_> bekks, http://pastebin.com/pAdRdnHd
[19:09] <bekks> breno_: And whats the complete output before and after?
[19:10] <Ozzelot> bekks: Plots world domination schemes, possibly.
[19:10] <bekks> Ozzelot: Then who is Pinky? :D
[19:10] <breno_> bekks, im reinstalling it give me a minute :)
[19:10] <kostkon> breno_, you probably need to install hte kernel headers.  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[19:15] <breno_> kostkon, i already did it
[19:15] <breno_> bekks, http://pastebin.com/fv0YLE88
[19:15] <Klompz> hello, for now only just a question, at a later time i will get into the advice/help/etc part, for now i only like to know this: are files recoverably after this situation: selecting a bunch of torrents in utorrent for deletion (rightclick-delete torrentfile and data), forgetting to deselect one. All that was on my laptop ends up in Trash, except the one which i forgot to deselect, which was located on my external hdd. that was a big fol
[19:15] <Klompz> der with loads of files.
[19:15] <Lazik> breno_: try this: sudo vmware-modconfig --console --install-all
[19:15] <Klompz> btw, i'm using lubuntu 14.04
[19:15] <breno_> Lazik, gcc and kernel headers must be installed
[19:16] <kostkon> breno_, ok
[19:16] <Guest33833> hallo
[19:16] <Guest33833> can someone help me?
[19:16] <breno_> kostkon, i do have gcc and kernel headers installed
[19:16] <bekks> breno_: Thats some log file. I asked you for the full, unchanged output of the command producing the error message you get.
[19:16] <kostkon> breno_, build-essential or just gcc?
[19:16] <bekks> Guest33833: Not without askig a question first.
[19:16] <breno_> bekks, it's that first pastebin.. its all the error i get
[19:16] <breno_> kostkon, both
[19:16] <kostkon> breno_, ok
[19:17] <Guest33833> i need help please
[19:17] <bekks> breno_: Which command are you running? Whats the FULL output of that command?
[19:17] <bekks> !help | Guest33833
[19:17] <Guest33833> sorry
[19:17] <breno_> bekks, im running a sudo vmware and all the output is that i sent you
[19:17] <wileee> Klompz, theoretically yes, how long ago was this and how big is that external?
[19:18] <Klompz> wileee, bout 30 minutes ago now and the external is 1.5 tb
[19:18] <carnassial> hello
[19:18] <Guest33833> i installed xubuntu and after i installed ap-hotspot, i get to run ap-hotspot, but when i try to connect my mobile phone to the hotspot, i don't get this
[19:18] <Guest33833> how can i get this?
[19:19] <bekks> breno_: "sudo vmware" is not a valid command for installing VMware Workstation. Can you please just be precise?
[19:19] <OerHeks> Klompz, open nautilus, go to your external hdd, do you see fresh items in your Trash appear ?
[19:19] <wileee> Klompz, used generally is testdisk but this is a advanced tool and you can loose everything with it, I would call it a learning situation honestly.
[19:19] <breno_> bekks, its already installed
[19:19] <darwin_> asdf
[19:19] <breno_> bekks, my problem is running it not installing it
[19:19] <bekks> breno_: Your problem is installing it correctly so you can run it without errors.
[19:20] <wileee> Klompz, Learning in that knowe what your doing and have backups.
[19:20] <kostkon> Klompz, make sure you select Edit-> View Hidden Files first
[19:20] <breno_> bekks, lol... ok
[19:20] <roiker> JOIN
[19:20] <breno_> bekks, i downloaded a 64 vmware workstation (.bundle file)
[19:20] <roiker> ERIKA
[19:20] <breno_> and issued a sudo sh vmware.bundle
[19:21] <Klompz> OerHeks, the ext. hdd has a trashfolder which has subfolders expunged, files and info, but nothing ever ends up in there after deleting in utorrent, which is not a problem btw, except for this times
[19:21] <breno_> bekks, the installation ran smoothly: http://pastebin.com/TZ8YZtrc
[19:21] <Lazik> breno_ try this http://pastebin.com/E51pwPkH
[19:21] <minas114> Hello. When my laptop is not connected to a power source, the colors seem to "blur". the contrast is not so good. I guess this is to save power, but how can I disable it?
[19:21] <Klompz> kostkon, i have hiddenfiles showing by default
[19:22] <cain-pol> minas144 answer my personal message
[19:22] <bekks> breno_: Well, thats not version 11 of VMware Workstation. Thats version 8.
[19:22] <wileee> !pm | cain-pol
[19:22] <breno_> Lazik, no help from it
[19:22] <breno_> bekks, ops.. sorry my fault
[19:22] <breno_> i got confused
[19:22] <cain-pol> !pm minas144 hey
[19:23] <OerHeks> minas114,  go into system settings, power
[19:23]  * Klompz 's thinking about geting IRL help
[19:23] <minas114> OerHeks, yes?
[19:23] <Klompz> okay, thanx for your time, people
[19:23] <bekks> breno_: So you are changing ot editing output/commands before putting them into a pastebin.
[19:23] <breno_> bekks, no, im not
[19:23] <bekks> breno_: I cant help you when having to ask you five times for a single output.
[19:24] <broman> bekks, i am not changing the output, mate!
[19:24] <broman> bekks, the only wrong information i gave you was about the vmware version
[19:25] <minas114> OerHeks, there's no such option...
[19:25] <bazhang> try #vmware broman
[19:25] <Binho_hinri> Tem brazuka aquu?
[19:25] <broman> ok
[19:25] <OerHeks> minas114, no powersaving options?
[19:25] <Binho_hinri> Brazuka aqui?
[19:25] <bazhang> !br | Binho_hinri
[19:27] <bekks> broman: VMware Workstation 8 went out of support in 2013. It is dead.
[19:27] <OerHeks> minas114, i see this http://askubuntu.com/questions/550311/power-presets-ubuntu-14-04
[19:27] <minas114> OerHeks, me too
[19:28] <minas114> OerHeks, if I press the "screen brightness" link, I go to "brightness and lock". The "dim screen to save power" is unticked
[19:29] <OerHeks> minas114, strange, then it should work as of you were on powersupply
[19:29] <cain-pol> minas114, it might be your graphics card...
[19:30] <minas114> OerHeks, that one I think is for when the laptop is not touched for some minutes
[19:31] <OerHeks> minas114,  "The dim screen to save power" should be the one AFAIK
[19:31] <kostkon> minas114, can you adjust the brightness in general using the fn keys?
[19:31] <minas114> kostkon, yes
[19:34] <kostkon> minas114, then while on battery try to adjust it again when it dims and then conenect it to AC and disconnect it right after and see if it remembers the brightness levels
[19:34] <minas114> kostkon, it does not "dim". The brightness is the same. What changes is the contrast of the colours
[19:34] <kostkon> minas114, in theory you can set different levels for each occasion / status
[19:42] <grizzlee> bonjour, y a t il quelqu'un pour r├®pondre a une petite question formatage disque dur sous xubuntu svp?
[19:43] <kostkon> !fr | grizzlee
[19:48] <mick27> hey folks,
[19:48] <SchrodingersScat> howdy
[19:48] <mick27> where do I find the file to change the config and allow the root login via ssh in 14.04
[19:48] <bekks> !root | mick27
[19:49] <grizzlee> Bonjour, y aurait il quelqu'un pour r├®soudre un petit probl├©me de formatage disque dur externe sous xubuntu?
[19:49] <mick27> I googled it for a while now and can't seem to find the answer
[19:49] <mick27> bekks, I landed there but can't seem to find the answer
[19:49] <SchrodingersScat> mick27: !root, but ssh would be sshd, /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[19:49] <mick27> I usually am able to get my root back
[19:50] <mick27> just the ssh login is configured in some way that I can bypass
[19:50] <SchrodingersScat> why can you not just login as user with sudo privilege?
[19:50] <mick27> cause for that one task I have I can't use sudo
[19:50] <mick27> :-/
[19:50] <bekks> Which task?
[19:50] <SchrodingersScat> logging in as root?
[19:51] <mick27> one that need to be done via ssh and with root
[19:51] <Ozzelot> mick: sudo su
[19:51] <bekks> mick27: And which task is it...?
[19:51] <SchrodingersScat> sudo -i also works for me, idk if that's recommended or not.
[19:51] <mick27> I know how to get into root lol
[19:51] <OerHeks> SchrodingersScat, that is the ubuntu way, yes
[19:51] <mick27> ubuntu is configured to forbid the root login via ssh, which I need
[19:52] <mick27> bekks: some stuff irrelevant here
[19:52] <OerHeks> mick27, see the comment of SchrodingersScat , you will need tho set that on the server side
[19:52] <bekks> mick27: Pretty relevant, since using the root account directly isnt necessary at all.
[19:53] <SchrodingersScat> and then probably service openssh-server restart
[19:53] <mick27> bekks: here it is, I run a mixed servers setup where all the non-root users are the same and for now I can't go and have individual login on each box
[19:54] <bekks> mick27: And which task requires you to be root, directly?
[19:54] <mick27> bekks: some install script
[19:55] <bekks> mick27: And what exactly happens when running it using sudo?
[19:55] <samgoody> I have this command in a bash file: inotifywait ŌĆ”. while..; do ŌĆ”. done.
[19:55] <mick27> doesn't matter how I run it, it tries to log via root to install stuff
[19:55] <samgoody> This bash file is called @reboot by cron, and is supposed to run the inotifywait command on every item in a long list
[19:56] <samgoody> However, since inotifywait stays open waiting for a response, it never gets to the second item on the list
[19:57] <samgoody> I assume the thing I need to do is nohup inotifywait &. But that does not seem to be working for me
[19:58] <samgoody> Can anyone who knows bash help me a bit?
[19:58] <samgoody> Here is my failed attempt
[19:58] <samgoody> http://pastie.org/10301333
[19:58] <samgoody> Just tell me where to put the commands, or what commands should have been put, so that it doesn't wait for the terminal with the output (I assume that is the way this should be handled)
[19:59] <samgoody> Also, is there a difference between $var and ${var} in bash? Also, are vars case-sensitive?
[20:01] <Marezz> I have 3 options in additional drivers, 1 opensource, 2 fglrx-updates and 3 fglrx
[20:01] <Marezz> which one to use?
[20:01] <Marezz> of the proprietary I mean
[20:02] <squinty> samgoody,  might have better success in #bash channel
[20:02] <OerHeks> Marezz, try the updates, if that does not work, the regular fglrx
[20:02] <OerHeks> or be safe and go for the regular.
[20:03] <samgoody> OK, thanks
[20:03] <Marezz> OerHeks, Gonna try updates :)
[20:04] <samgoody> http://pastie.org/10301333#6
[20:04] <samgoody> oops
[20:04] <hard_partizan> vsem privet
[20:05] <CiPi> Hello
[20:05] <CiPi> gpointing-device-settings
[20:05] <CiPi> An X error occurred. The error was BadAtom (invalid Atom parameter).
[20:05] <hard_partizan> a kak tut pisat na RU
[20:05] <CiPi> Anyone have an idea?
[20:05] <CiPi> My touchpad is not working anymore.
[20:05] <CiPi> After i updated xorg
[20:06] <wileee> !touchpad
[20:06] <wileee> CiPi, ^^^^ maybe a look here while you wait. ;)
[20:07] <bazhang> !ru | hard_partizan
[20:07] <CiPi> wileee, where man?
[20:08] <CiPi> !touchpad
[20:08] <wileee> CiPi, Ah, you got it.
[20:08] <CiPi> cool
[20:09] <ks> how do I know what causes load average to be above 12?
[20:12] <CiPi> AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint                	id=12	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[20:12] <CiPi> Can`t change it...
[20:12] <CiPi> Don`t know what happened after xorg update....everything else is working just fine.
[20:13] <wileee> CiPi, Don't forget a full context, hardly understandable as of now.
[20:14] <neutrinomass> Hello. I'm developing a screen-scraping application that needs to continuously take screenshots of the screen. I want to run multiple instances of it, but I only have one screen. Is this possible without virtualisastion?
[20:14] <CiPi> The program 'synclient' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[20:14] <CiPi> apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[20:15] <CiPi> The mouse licks are working
[20:15] <CiPi> Only the trackpad is not working
[20:16] <bazhang> neutrinomass, like a frame by frame vid capture?
[20:16] <neutrinomass> bazhang: I have a full screen firefox instance open and the scraper runs in the background. So firefox must be display the page for the scraper to take screenshots of it.
[20:17] <bazhang> open to what neutrinomass
[20:17] <neutrinomass> bazhang: a webpage
[20:17] <bazhang> yes, its a website/page browser neutrinomass
[20:18] <bazhang> not the info I needed neutrinomass
[20:19] <neutrinomass> bazhang: what do you want to know?
[20:19] <bazhang> neutrinomass, youtube or other video? or what
[20:20] <wolfieorama> hi guys
[20:20] <neutrinomass> bazhang: it's a flash webpage that displays some info that I scrape
[20:20] <sl1rpy> okay this is kinda annoying... im trying to resizze the terminal but it shrinks to only show like 2 lines
[20:20] <wolfieorama> having trouble with my wifi realtek 8723be ubunti 14.04 tried almost everythiing possible any ideas
[20:21] <bazhang> barring further details being given no idea how to support or advise on that neutrinomass
[20:21] <sl1rpy> using ubuntu 15.04.... it looks like its a theming issue
[20:22] <sl1rpy> because the font doesnt look good until i change to a cusstom font
[20:23] <neutrinomass> bazhang: I just want to scrape multiple sites in parallel. So currently I spawn a virtual machine for each website and launch firefox and the scraping script in the virtual machine. However this isn't a scalable solution, since my hardware can support only a few vms.
[20:23] <wolfieorama> anyone who can help with wifi on ubuntu 14.04 64 bit realtek drivers
[20:23] <OerHeks> wolfieorama, lots of issues with that wifi device https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1296591
[20:23] <wileee> wolf_mozart, What have you done so far exactly.
[20:23] <bazhang> !wifi | wolfieorama have a read first
[20:24] <wileee> wolfieorama, what have you exactly done so far
[20:24] <bazhang> scrape what neutrinomass ?
[20:24] <sl1rpy> anyone heard of the terminal not sizing to the window size i want when trying to resize?
[20:24] <wileee> wolf_mozart, Soory.
[20:24] <OerHeks> wolfieorama, see the last post::: http://askubuntu.com/questions/590414/wifi-problems-with-rtl8723be-in-ubuntu-14-04
[20:24] <ks> what's good strategy to find a cause of bottleneck in my php-fpm script running on ubuntu? here's a link to some benchmarks http://paste.ubuntu.com/11905825/
[20:25] <wolfieorama> i have tried all possible recommended way on the forum
[20:25] <neutrinomass> bazhang: I take screenshots of the screen, which I then process. That's what I mean by 'scraping'.
[20:26] <wileee> wolfieorama, check the link given you, that was why I asked exactly.
[20:26] <bazhang> neutrinomass, yes I am very aware of the term scraping, my query goes to the nature of the precise items on the aforemention webpages being scraped
[20:26] <sl1rpy> how many times do i have to ask a question until someone sees it that can answer it?
[20:27] <wileee> sl1rpy, no mean on that.
[20:27] <bazhang> !patience | sl1rpy
[20:27] <wolfieorama> wileee, i am  checking all the doc just incase i hadnt seen them earlier .
[20:27] <sl1rpy> bazhang, idk how to search my problem tho
[20:28] <wileee> wolfieorama, did you see the link to  http://askubuntu.com/questions/590414/wifi-problems-with-rtl8723be-in-ubuntu-14-04
[20:28] <wolfieorama> i have already tried this sudo apt-get install kernel-headers build-essential git and didnt fix it
[20:28] <OerHeks> wolfieorama, also my last post? echo "options rtl8723be fwlps=N ips=N" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8723be.conf
[20:28] <bazhang> you want a set terminal size
[20:28] <wolfieorama> this didnt work as well http://askubuntu.com/questions/590414/wifi-problems-with-rtl8723be-in-ubuntu-14-04
[20:29] <OerHeks> wolfieorama, oke, then the bug is still there :-(
[20:29] <wolfieorama> this too didnt work http://askubuntu.com/questions/607339/rtl8723be-bluetooth-does-not-work
[20:29] <wileee> wolfieorama, Last post, you actually have a great helper trying to help you, stop look and answer.
[20:30] <neutrinomass> bazhang: share prices, why does it matter?
[20:31] <wolfieorama> OerHeks, checking your advice now, is that to do with power settings ?
[20:31] <OerHeks> wolfieorama, you already tried that post, you said ..
[20:31] <bazhang> neutrinomass, were it a video. my advice would differ
[20:32] <sl1rpy> bazhang, i guess its a problem with the theme engine of the theme i was using... switched to a different theme and the resize is fine
[20:32] <neutrinomass> bazhang: no, it's just a flash thing that auto updates itself, and I scrape it regularly
[20:32] <wolfieorama> i have just tried this  echo "options rtl8723be fwlps=N ips=N" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8723be.conf
[20:32] <wolfieorama> OerHeks, do i need a reboot
[20:33] <wolfieorama> OerHeks, i have done the echo , is there need to reboot for it to take full effect wifi still off
[20:34] <OerHeks> wolfieorama, no, restart of your networking, sudo service networking restart
[20:35] <wolfieorama> OerHeks, no fix
[20:38] <onlyonemac> ok...
[20:38] <onlyonemac> i have a software modem
[20:38] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[20:38] <onlyonemac> which i have just set up
[20:38] <onlyonemac> and whenever i answer the modem
[20:38] <onlyonemac> (with "ata")
[20:38] <bazhang> one line please onlyonemac
[20:38] <onlyonemac> the cpu hangs
[20:38] <wolfieorama> this one neither http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2243691&p=13119513#post13119513
[20:39] <OerHeks> hi onlyonemac easy on the enter please, post your issue in one line, thanks
[20:39] <onlyonemac> bazhang: sorry that's normally how i post on irc because i can get my thoughts down easier that way
[20:39] <onlyonemac> it takes very long to type in one line
[20:39] <onlyonemac> and it is difficult for me to punctuate, and i end up leaving things out
[20:39] <onlyonemac> but anyway that's it
[20:39] <bazhang> onlyonemac, thats impossible to read, the chances of getting support are low
[20:40] <Umeaboy> Not to be negative, but why can't people type the entire emailadress when wanting to reg on member.miezu.com? I was invited because of an email about getting the Ubuntu preinstalled Miezu phone.
[20:40] <onlyonemac> basically, when i answer the modem, the cpu hangs and the computer is unable to process the incoming connection
[20:40] <Umeaboy> Something wrong with the page code?
[20:40] <onlyonemac> Umeaboy: what is the page code and how do i test for that?
[20:40] <Umeaboy> The last part can't be included for some reason.
[20:40] <OerHeks> Umeaboy, please visit #ubuntu-touch for help
[20:41] <Umeaboy> onlyonemac: http://ubuntu.meizumart.com/
[20:41] <onlyonemac> Umeaboy: sorry i thought it had something to do with my modem
[20:41] <wolfieorama> OerHeks,  do u know how to toggle  module parameter "msi" totally clueless on that i just seen on this post on the last part https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1310512
[20:42] <OerHeks> wolfieorama, sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8723be.conf  # and remove options rtl8723be fwlps=N ips=N
[20:43] <rsweb> Hi guys, just installed Ubuntu 14.04 on a machine and at the time of the installation there was only one disk over which I build raid1 with one device. Now I have second drive which I would like to put into that same raid1 array but mdadm --manage=/dev/md0 --add /dev/new-drive does not work. Can you help me with this?
[20:43] <onlyonemac> also this is an old system of mine
[20:43] <onlyonemac> xubuntu 8.04
[20:44] <onlyonemac> smartlink modem with the slamr driver and slmodemd
[20:44] <bekks> !8.04 | onlyonemac
[20:44] <Umeaboy> rsweb: 15.04 is released. You do know that?
[20:44] <wolfieorama> OerHeks, ok let me try
[20:45] <rsweb> Umeaboy: no, they gave me a disk and said install it. Now I have to grow the raid1 to work with two drives in order for the raid1 to make sense.
[20:45] <onlyonemac> bekks: EXCUSE ME BUT MY SYSTEM IS TOO OLD TO RUN ANYTHING NEWER
[20:45] <bekks> onlyonemac: SO WHY DO YOU SHOUT AT ME?
[20:45] <bekks> onlyonemac: Why cant you use 12.04?
[20:45] <onlyonemac> bekks: because i hate it when people tell me to just "run something newer"
[20:45] <onlyonemac> bekks: this is my OLD computer
[20:45] <onlyonemac> bekks: with the dial-up modem in it
[20:45] <wolfieorama> OerHeks, i already have this in the config file  :   options rtl8723be fwlps=N ips=N should i leave as so ?
[20:45] <bekks> onlyonemac: 8.04 isnt supported anymore, there is no chance of getting support for it.
[20:45] <onlyonemac> bekks: that is need for my electronics project
[20:45] <Ben64> 8.04 isn't supported, thats why you need to run something newer
[20:45] <Umeaboy> rsweb: sudo update-manager -d
[20:46] <onlyonemac> well i cannot run anything newer on this system, and this is the system that i need to use for my project
[20:46] <Ben64> you can actually run something newer
[20:46] <rsweb> Umeaboy: noted.
[20:46] <Umeaboy> Only update with LAN connection.
[20:46] <onlyonemac> Ben64: how?
[20:46] <Ben64> by running something newer
[20:46] <rsweb> can someone tell me how to change the --raid-devices from 1 to 2 on an existing raid1 array?
[20:46] <onlyonemac> Ben64: the hardware is not powerful enough, therefore i cannot run anything newer
[20:47] <OerHeks> Umeaboy, please do not suggest the -d development version, thanks.
[20:47] <Ben64> you're just guessing. the requirements don't really change much
[20:47] <kostkon> onlyonemac, what's the hardware
[20:47] <bazhang> onlyonemac, use lubuntu or something
[20:47] <Umeaboy> OerHeks: I thought -d updates to the next release.
[20:47] <onlyonemac> bazhang: i hate lubuntu
[20:47] <OerHeks> wolfieorama, you wanted to delete that option, or not?
[20:47] <neutrinomass> onlyonemac: you mean it crashes when you answer with the modem ?
[20:47] <Umeaboy> What letter is it for updating to the next stable release then?
[20:47] <onlyonemac> besides, i've had this system for years and i hardly use it anymore so it's not like i'm going to update it now
[20:48] <bazhang> onlyonemac, that has nothing to do with what the machine is capable of, 8.04 is simply not supported
[20:48] <histo> onlyonemac: Regardless I don't think you'll see any crazy new requirements from xubuntu 14.04 compaired to what you are running.
[20:48] <onlyonemac> neutrinomass: it says "soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 11s! [slmodemd:6881]" when i send "ata" to the modem to answer a call
[20:48] <bazhang> onlyonemac, then try another place for support, this channel wont support it
[20:48] <histo> onlyonemac: what is the issue?
[20:48] <wolfieorama> OerHeks, wanted to switch from current status , what i have sent is how it is right now ?
[20:48] <onlyonemac> bazhang: where?
[20:49] <onlyonemac> histo: xubuntu 8.04 is a cram as it is
[20:49] <bazhang> loco onlyonemac
[20:49] <bazhang> !loco | onlyonemac
[20:49] <ryein> it would be nice if Unity hand it so you could have a launcher on each monitor, but only display the apps on that desktop that are running
[20:49] <ryein> is there a tweak for that?
[20:49] <histo> onlyonemac: Does the cpu ever return to normal operation after hanging?
[20:49] <onlyonemac> histo: when i unplug the phone line
[20:49] <Ben64> onlyonemac: maybe its a bug that has been fixed in the 26 months since 8.04 lost support
[20:49] <nicomachus> lol
[20:50] <onlyonemac> histo: other than that the two modems just sit trying to establish a connection, but unable to because mgetty and pppd are not able to process the call
[20:50] <onlyonemac> Ben64: very good, if the hardware would run that
[20:50] <OerHeks> rsweb, maybe this page is any help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID#Disk_Array_Operation
[20:50] <Ben64> onlyonemac: ok i'll bite, what is the computer specs
[20:50] <histo> onlyonemac: What are the specs of your machine?
[20:50] <kostkon> 486DX
[20:51] <onlyonemac> Ben64: 32-bit athlon thing at 2ghz (can't remember name), 256mb ram
[20:51] <Ben64> can run 14.04 on it
[20:51] <onlyonemac> Ben64: no, cannot
[20:51] <onlyonemac> Ben64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[20:51] <wolfieorama> OerHeks,
[20:52] <onlyonemac> Ben64: Ubuntu Desktop Edition
[20:52] <onlyonemac>     700 MHz processor (about Intel Celeron or better)
[20:52] <onlyonemac>     512 MiB RAM (system memory)
[20:52] <onlyonemac> Ben64: notice ram
[20:52] <Ben64> onlyonemac: thats for ubuntu, not xubuntu or lubuntu
[20:52] <wolfieorama> OerHeks,  turned it to zero and i got this on terminal Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[20:52] <onlyonemac> Ben64: Minimum system requirements for Xubuntu would fall roughly between Ubuntu Server and Desktop:
[20:52] <onlyonemac>     512 MiB of system memory (RAM)
[20:52] <onlyonemac> Ben64: same ram
[20:52] <onlyonemac> Ben64: and as it is, ram is almost full
[20:52] <OerHeks> wolfieorama, ignore those warnings with starting gedit from comandline
[20:52] <histo> onlyonemac: What type of modem
[20:52] <Ben64> onlyonemac: it will still work
[20:52] <onlyonemac> Ben64: i often run out of ram with 8.04
[20:52] <histo> !linuxatemyram | onlyonemac
[20:52] <rsweb> OerHeks: there is no info on how to increase the number of devices in an existing raid. There is info on how to add a device to an existing array that has 2 or more "slots" for devices.
[20:52] <neutrinomass> onlyonemac: can you post the dmesg output? Is there any other information surrounding this error message? What happens exactly? Does it freeze up momentariliy, or do you have to press the power button to restart it?
[20:53] <onlyonemac> Ben64: funny how it will "still work" when there isn't enough ram...
[20:53] <kostkon> onlyonemac, you could try ubuntu mate or lubuntu. mate is a fork of gnome2
[20:53] <Ben64> onlyonemac: its a suggested amount
[20:53] <onlyonemac> sorry mom wants me to go to bed :-/
[20:53] <wolfieorama> OerHeks, no wifi still its not fixing i wil try and reboot will be back in a few
[20:53] <neutrinomass> onlyonemac: ok -- try to upgrade teh kernel
[20:53] <onlyonemac> neutrinomass: it freezes until i disconnect the phone line and the modem stops trying to communicate
[20:53] <onlyonemac> neutrinomass: only dmesg output is the freeze message and a cpu register dump
[20:54] <Ben64> From Lubuntu wiki ---- With 256MB - 384MB of RAM, the performance will be better and the system will be more usable.
[20:54] <histo> onlyonemac: what driver are you using and what type of modem is it
[20:54] <onlyonemac> Ben64: i hate lxde - it makes me feel physically sick - i will not use it
[20:54] <Ben64> so pick a different wm
[20:54] <onlyonemac> histo: it is a smartlink 56k pci modem using the slamr driver and slmodemd
[20:54] <onlyonemac> Ben64: i.e. xfce
[20:54] <neutrinomass> onlyonemac: try to upgrade the kernel. Either look for a backported kernel suitable for 8.04, or compile your own
[20:54] <onlyonemac> /ignore Ben64
[20:55] <onlyonemac> neutrinomass: usually i break the system when i upgrade a kernel
[20:55] <Ben64> very mature
[20:55] <onlyonemac> neutrinomass: the apt on this thing is a bit broken anyway - tends to fail randomly
[20:55] <Ben42> so install a new, fresh system that is supported here if you want support, otherwise, do it yourself
[20:56] <Ben42> if everything is broken, maybe you should not be so stubborn about sticking with it?
[20:56] <neutrinomass> onlyonemac: Try not to break it though :P But this is probably a kernel issue. There are several articles on the web about how to upgrade a kernel on ubuntu. If need be, you can compile your own. If you do that try something a bit older, to minimise compatibility issues maybe not the absolutely latest kernel.
[20:56] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | onlyonemac
[20:57] <bazhang> see the last link there on how to upgrade to a supported system onlyonemac
[20:57] <histo> onlyonemac: according to this the drivers are finicky. There are alternative drivers here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Smartlink
[20:58] <onlyonemac> /ignore Ben42
[20:58] <histo> onlyonemac: I would try that if you are so anti upgrading, hopefully you don't need any newer packages though; or you will be forced to upgrade
[20:58] <onlyonemac> bazhang: i KNOW how to upgrade lol
[20:58] <wolfieorama> OerHeks,
[20:59] <onlyonemac> histo: yeah, i have often needed newer stuff
[20:59] <onlyonemac> histo: but this thing still works though
[20:59] <wolfieorama> OerHeks, any other recommendations ? out there feeling frustrated
[20:59] <onlyonemac> histo: and i can get almost everything i need for it, considering that i don't use it that much anymore anyway
[21:01] <ManicPanic> hi. My laptop is showing 256 degrees temperature on the "Temp1" sensor. But the laptop is running cool. Should i be worried ? http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-256-deg-m7EjLMNZ.png
[21:01] <histo> Hopefully he tries the other drivers
[21:01] <histo> ManicPanic: does it ever change?
[21:02] <Ben64> ManicPanic: amd?
[21:03] <ManicPanic> histo:  its always at 256 degrees
[21:03] <Dewin|work> /whois Dewin
[21:03] <Dewin|work> oops
[21:03] <ManicPanic> Ben64:  yes
[21:03] <Gevaudan0044> On Lenovo Edge 15 using Ubuntu 14.02.4 The Wifi does not work. Network adapter is Qualcomm Atheros QCA61x4.
[21:04] <Ben64> ManicPanic: amd temp doesn't play nicely with linux often times, you kind of have to ignore it
[21:04] <OerHeks> wolfieorama, no, maybe you can confirm that bugreport that is is still not working. no other fix i see
[21:05] <ManicPanic> Ben64: so Linux have issues detecting AMD hardware sensors correctly ?
[21:06] <histo> ManicPanic: probably and issue with the way it's being reported.
[21:06] <histo> ManicPanic: reboot and check in the bios if there is some sort of health status or temperature monitoring
[21:06] <Ben64> the way i understand it, amd doesn't report temperature so much as they report change in temperature, so without calibration theres no way it can be accurate, and that depends on the motherboard and all kinds of stuff
[21:06] <Umeaboy> Gevaudan0044: Check output of rfkill list
[21:07] <Umeaboy> Doesit say YES on any of the rows=
[21:07] <Umeaboy> ?
[21:07] <ManicPanic> histo:  okay i see
[21:07] <Ben64> for example, my cpu is reporting 28C and it's about 24C in here
[21:07] <Umeaboy> You may have a hardware block.
[21:07] <Ben64> theres no way that is right
[21:07] <compdoc> seems not many amd chipsets are detected by lmsensors these days
[21:09] <ManicPanic> histo: i dunno. Dont wana break something in the BIOS :)
[21:09] <Gevaudan0044> Umeaboy : rfkill has no for soft block and no for hard block on wireless.
[21:09] <Ben64> ManicPanic: it won't break anything, just will show you actual temperature
[21:09] <ManicPanic> Ben64: but a CPU have its own operating temp. Room temp is different
[21:10] <Ben64> right, but my cpu is not 4 degrees ambient
[21:10] <Ben64> above ambient*
[21:11] <ManicPanic> Ben64: oh okay. Will try check there then.
[21:11] <histo> ManicPanic: then don't change anything, just look for 'health status'  or temperature on the first page, typically what they call it.
[21:13] <Umeaboy> Gevaudan0044: Do you have a physical button for enabling Wifi?
[21:13] <histo> Gevaudan0044: dmesg | grep -i firmware
[21:16] <histo> Gevaudan0044: http://askubuntu.com/questions/607707/ath10k-installation
[21:25] <ManicPanic> i could'nt find anything about sensors in the BIOS. But here is the new screenshot. "Temp1" went from 256 degrees to below 60 degrees http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-TEMP-i4lIkCKh.png
[21:26] <wolfieorama> i might have found a fix testing then i share
[21:27] <ManicPanic> so i guess its a bug in the temperature readings.
[21:27] <ManicPanic> Just hope 60 degrees avarage is a good operating temp for a laptop
[21:28] <wolfieorama> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-trusty-realtek.html
[21:36] <yoavz> Hi, I'm having some weird issue with upstart and 14.04. init-checkconf gives me "unexpected token" for line 11 in this upstart script: https://gist.github.com/yoavzuri/0401873b0400ccf1c003 - Any ideas?
[21:38] <mladoux> <3
[21:41] <denis07> Salut
[21:41] <denis07> Une personne pour aide avec transmission et i2p?
[21:42] <rtreleaven> !french
[21:42] <ig0r_> how do I flush the dns cache?
[21:42] <motdd> hi
[21:42] <denis07> Ok i m sorry
[21:42] <motdd> how i can updare geoip ?
[21:42] <rtreleaven> np
[21:43] <rtreleaven> ig0r_ what app are you using?
[21:45] <OerHeks> motdd, why update ?
[21:45] <OerHeks> motdd, and for what ubuntu version? the ppa only has utopic 1.65
[21:45] <motdd> not right data
[21:45] <motdd> 14
[21:46] <ig0r_> rtreleaven: huh?
[21:46] <rtreleaven> what dns server are you using?
[21:46] <OerHeks> motdd, i wouldn't use a ppa for that unless i need it to > https://launchpad.net/~maxmind/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[21:47] <OerHeks> motdd, carefull, ppa's are unsupported here, if something goes wrong you are on your own
[21:47] <motdd> ok
[21:47] <motdd> i dont use
[21:48] <ig0r_> rtreleaven: I get my dns from my ISP
[21:48] <rtreleaven> if you don't have a cache then you can't clear it.
[21:49] <ig0r_> in Windows there flush dns command
[21:50] <ig0r_> *there's a
[21:51] <OerHeks> ig0r_, see http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/flush-dns-cache-ubuntu-13-04-12-10/ >> sudo /etc/init.d/networking force-reload
[21:52] <rtreleaven> OerHeks does the resolver do caching?
[21:57] <OerHeks> rtreleaven, al i know is that will do a clean start, without dns cache if existing
[21:58] <histo> rtreleaven: I thought bind was there for local caching
[21:58] <rtreleaven> yes that is what I was talking about. I use dnsmasq but bind is also an option.
[21:58] <derek_> hi
[21:59] <rtreleaven> I did not think the resolver would cache cause that would break the rules of parimony :)
[22:00] <rtreleaven> s/parimony/parsimony
[22:00] <rtreleaven> But I have recently been unfrozen and the thing with the pump is not mine
[22:00] <histo> ahh dnsmasq is built into network manager but I don't believe it does caching by default
[22:01] <Jakey2> Hi folks, should i do something different when installing an ssd to hdd on ubuntu
[22:01] <histo> well atleast it used to.
[22:02] <histo> Jakey2: I enable noatime and discard on my mounts in /etc/fstab
[22:02] <Jakey2> im changing my hard drive to a saming evo 850
[22:03] <histo> !ssd Jakey2
[22:03] <histo> !ssd | Jakey2
[22:04] <rtreleaven> also put tmp in memory
[22:05] <OerHeks> discard will do for me
[22:05] <Jakey2> thanks guys
[22:06] <histo> Jakey2: don't use discard on that drive
[22:06] <histo> Jakey2: I guess there's an issue with samsung 8* series drives and that option
[22:07] <OerHeks> histo, with the EVO or PRO version ?
[22:07] <histo> Jakey2: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/e64f638483a21105c7ce330d543fa1f1c35b5bc7/drivers/ata/libata-core.c#L4227
[22:08] <Ben64> histo: why discard instead of trim like normal
[22:08] <histo> OerHeks: looks like they blacklisted queued trim for all Samsung SSD 8* due to data corruption in the kernel.
[22:12] <histo> Ben64: my drive supports continuous trim so why not.
[22:14] <Ben64> usually makes it slower
[22:14] <cuddylier> If my /boot has the following files in it: http://pastie.org/pastes/10301536/text?key=ybnjksmsm0xjf1frzdjgg
[22:15] <cuddylier> And my kernel is 3.13.0-24-generic
[22:15] <cuddylier> Are there any I can delete to free up space? The /boot partition is using 100% of its allocated space.
[22:15] <Ben64> seems like you need to reboot then
[22:15] <cuddylier> It has over 365 days uptime so I am not that keen on rebooting, anyway to clean it up a bit without rebooting?
[22:16] <cuddylier> the /boot partition is 174MB in size.
[22:16] <Ben64> you're way way behind in kernel updates, uptime doesn't really matter
[22:16] <cuddylier> I was thinking of using kernelcare to update it maybe
[22:17] <histo> cuddylier: looks like you're running the oldest kernel there.  You could theoretically delete the ones in between oldest and newest and reboot
[22:18] <histo> s/delete/remove packages for/
[22:18] <Ben64> those are 14.04 kernels, the latest being 3.13.0-57
[22:18] <Ben64> so even the newest one there is old
[22:22] <cuddylier> I rebooted and nothing in /boot cleared
[22:23] <cuddylier> Ben64 Can I just remove all of them except linux-image-3.13.0-33 then?
[22:24] <OerHeks> cuddylier, no, keep the latest and the one before that for recovery
[22:24] <histo> cuddylier: remove the packages
[22:24] <OerHeks> e.g. you would get an error if you try, AFAIK
[22:24] <histo> cuddylier: it will remove the old kernels during reconfigure.
[22:24] <cuddylier> I see these kernels: http://pastie.org/pastes/10301551/text?key=ixtxahmgtbwlh2arhjubpa
[22:24] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get autoremove
[22:25] <cuddylier> Just do that straight away now?
[22:25] <cuddylier> I can't do that as it says to do apt-get -f install
[22:25] <cuddylier> Which I can't do due to full /boot
[22:25] <Ben64> remove the packages for the ones you aren't currently running, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:26] <cuddylier> Yea, I can't do anything due to full /boot though
[22:26] <Ben64> pastebin the full error
[22:26] <cuddylier> From the -f install?
[22:26] <cuddylier> Or just autoremove?
[22:26] <Ben64> from anything/everything
[22:26] <cuddylier> http://pastie.org/pastes/10301554/text?key=ffkyf5dyga0zepx5okfvgw
[22:27] <cuddylier> And this is from apt-get -f install: http://pastie.org/pastes/10301555/text?key=913s7sikwybbhzz9wtz5va
[22:28] <Ben64> what kernel are you running now? uname -r
[22:29] <cuddylier> Ben64:
[22:29] <cuddylier> 3.13.0-33-generic
[22:29] <OerHeks> oh, not rebooted...
[22:29] <cuddylier> I did a full reboot
[22:29] <cuddylier> Using 'reboot'
[22:30] <cuddylier>  15:29:58 up 10 min,
[22:31] <Ben64> cuddylier: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-extra-3.13.0-{24..32}-generic linux-image-3.13.0-{24..32}-generic
[22:32] <cuddylier> Ben64: http://pastie.org/pastes/10301561/text?key=53lcqrmmlgkudfic5awzw
[22:34] <Ben64> cuddylier: eh fine, didn't think it would complain
[22:34] <Ben64> cuddylier: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-extra-3.13.0-{24,29,30,32}-generic linux-image-3.13.0-{24,29,30,32}-generic
[22:34] <cuddylier> Tells me to do apt-get -f install :(
[22:34] <cuddylier> Any apt-get command doesn't work
[22:37] <Ben64> cuddylier: sudo dpkg --force-all -P linux-image-extra-3.13.0-{24,29,30,32}-generic linux-image-3.13.0-{24,29,30,32}-generic
[22:37] <cuddylier> That seems to be running fine so far
[22:38] <cuddylier> Done, what should I do now Ben64?
[22:38] <Ben64> then you should be able to do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:38] <cuddylier> Only 34% used of /boot now
[22:38] <cuddylier> Is dist-upgrade not to upgrade to like 15.04 or something?
[22:38] <Ben64> correct, its to upgrade all packages, including installing new ones
[22:38] <cuddylier> I see, is there a way I can stay within 14.04?
[22:39] <Ben64> wait maybe you misunderstood, dist-upgrade does stay on 14.04
[22:39] <cuddylier> As the changes in 15.04 break some of my programs I believe
[22:39] <cuddylier> Ah
[22:39] <Ben64> !dist-upgrade
[22:39] <Ben64> there, better explanation
[22:39] <cuddylier> That's good
[22:39] <dienes> hi
[22:39] <cuddylier> So once I do that I should be good to go yep?
[22:39] <Ben64> yeah
[22:40] <Ben64> and just reboot again to get on a new kernel, and then after that make sure to run sudo apt-get autoremove to clear up old kernels
[22:46] <mekhami> does unity have workspaces a la gnome?
[22:48] <wileee> mekhami, yes
[22:49] <wileee> gnome 3 base
[22:49] <cuddylier> Ben64 When it asks about my grub config, should I keep my existing or install the package maintainer's version?
[22:49] <cuddylier> Install package maintain's versions?
[22:51] <wileee> cuddylier, if you've made changes it will overwritten by maintainers
[22:51] <cuddylier> wileee: I've never manually edited it before
[22:51] <cuddylier> So I should update to package maintainers?
[22:52] <OerHeks> mekhami, systemsettings > appearance > behavior > enable workspaces
[22:52] <wileee> cuddylier, I've not followed along best to wait for your helpers answer I think. ;)
[22:52] <mekhami> OerHeks: ah thank you kindly
[22:52] <mekhami> is there a hotkey to move between work spaces?
[22:52] <cuddylier> wileee: It's just a dist-upgrade
[22:53] <Danwei> hi
[22:53] <OerHeks> mekhami, sure, hold the super key to see a short list
[22:53] <Danwei> whatsup
[22:54] <OerHeks> whatapp?
[22:54] <OerHeks> ow ..
[22:54] <histo> cuddylier: if you didn't change yours then just update tot he package maintainers
[22:54] <cuddylier> k thx
[22:55] <mekhami> OerHeks: you are so fantastic. thanks!
[23:00] <cuddylier> I got this after doing auto remove: http://pastie.org/pastes/10301581/text?key=iytox3ene4o64572isqrw
[23:01] <cuddylier> Is it okay or do I need to run grub update?
[23:03] <histo> cuddylier: you can, it shouldn't hurt anything to run it.
[23:04] <wileee> not sure why all the boot partitions people use
[23:14] <cain-pol> i need help everytime u start my System it comes with "System program problem detected"
[23:15] <hamza> hello, how do i get icon to be nicely ordered and not be above each other
[23:15] <hamza> i'm using 14.04 stock unity
[23:16] <cain-pol> what do you mean by 'icon'
[23:16] <hamza> using RMB > Keep Aligned does not seem to order them correctly
[23:16] <hamza> i mean Desktop icon items
[23:17] <hamza> i want them to be ordered from top right like on Windows
[23:18] <cain-pol> click and hold on the icon and drag it where ever you want
[23:19] <hamza> yeah but they are not ordered to a defined grid, they don't take icon size, filename into consideration
[23:19] <hamza> http://imgur.com/PrrDhJy
[23:19] <hamza> this is my desktop, sorry for double screens
[23:20] <cain-pol> right click on the icon/file and it should say resize icon
[23:21] <hamza> yeah, but isn't there a more automated way as if i pasted an icon it would be adjust accordingly?
[23:21] <hamza> an item*
[23:22] <wileee> hamza, I don't remember seeing a grid in place as you describe, not sure what RMB is.
[23:22] <hamza> right mouse button
[23:22] <amicrawler> DOES ANY BODY KNOW HOW TO FIX THIS ?
[23:23] <xangua> !detaiks | amicrawler, also drop the caps
[23:23] <xangua> !details
[23:23] <wileee> amicrawler, Hang on youngster let me turn down my hearing aid
[23:23] <cain-pol> wileee, i dont either
[23:23] <amicrawler> where can i snd a snap shot
[23:24] <hamza> so there isn't any grid based ordering for desktop item in Ubuntu? if no, then i'll go my own way, and ... thanks
[23:24] <aib> I need to pass an argument to wpa_supplicant but I don't even know who's calling it (it's a child of init), what can I do?
[23:24] <xangua> a "snapshot" of what? amicrawler
[23:24] <amicrawler> desk top on what is going on
[23:24] <wileee> hamza, organize by name and keep aligned can get you what you want, with a few more steps is all.
[23:24] <bekks> amicrawler: So what IS going on, can you elaborate please?
[23:24] <hamza> wileee: yes! it's nice now
[23:25] <cain-pol> hamza, their is no grid on ubuntu desktop you can freely place them anywhere
[23:25] <hamza> http://imgur.com/N1s1lxV
[23:25] <amicrawler> i have black broders around my applications the termail i cant see unless i goto to alt f1
[23:26] <hamza> cain-pol: thank you
[23:26] <amicrawler> the icons on the top of the page when clicking i get black borders
[23:26] <cain-pol> amicrawler, restart your System
[23:26] <amicrawler> and some time in fire fox i get black boxes and some time txt in it
[23:26] <notafads> can anyone help me out with this error im getting Syntax error on line 35 of
[23:26] <notafads> /etc/httpd/modsecurity.d/activated_rules/modsecurity_crs_10_ignore_static.conf:
[23:26] <notafads> No action id present within the rule
[23:26] <wileee> hamza, Only thing I do is shrink every icon myself to it's smallest or relative size.
[23:26] <amicrawler> i did that plenty of time
[23:26] <hamza> but still, some icons are above the drop-down menu... that's another problem though, my original problem is solved thanks to you
[23:27] <amicrawler> is there a like paste bin i can post to
[23:27] <hamza> wileee: sure, i'll have to adjust the size accordingly from now on
[23:28] <wileee> hamza, Cool, glad to help, have a great day. ; )
[23:28] <hamza> wileee: same to you! :)
[23:28] <amicrawler> http://picpaste.com/QkkZewYW.png
[23:28] <amicrawler> here is the issue
[23:29] <AndroUser> Mabe install compiz that way ya can change anything you need
[23:29] <cain-pol> amicrawler, it might be your graphic card
[23:29] <wileee> amicrawler, you had open =box going why not use it, there are some cool combo's with it, and it will fly.
[23:30] <amicrawler> want to use unity and gnome the heavy gui
[23:30] <amicrawler> i have intel mobile family card
[23:31] <notafads> anyone use modsecurity here?
[23:31] <wileee> fair enough, just a bummer to see you have such a problem.
[23:31] <notafads> having trouble with some action id present within the rule\
[23:31] <amicrawler> when try to install the install the video driver from intel it said not supported
[23:31] <cain-pol> amicrawler, what system are you using
[23:31] <amicrawler> 14.04
[23:31] <amicrawler> 64 bit
[23:31] <cain-pol> check for a sofware update
[23:32] <amicrawler> did
[23:32] <amicrawler> all ready done
[23:32] <cain-pol> you using laptop or pc?
[23:32] <amicrawler> laptop
[23:32] <amicrawler> lenova
[23:32] <cain-pol> that might be the problem
[23:33] <amicrawler> lenova
[23:33] <cain-pol> i dunno, cause i have ubuntu on dual monitors
[23:33] <amicrawler> when booting
[23:34] <amicrawler> goes to gdm
[23:34] <amicrawler> and then looks good
[23:34] <amicrawler> then refreshes and then goes to odd looking boot log in
[23:34] <cain-pol> when u start up your system do you have the option for either, Ubuntu or Ubuntu 14.04 Dev
[23:35] <amicrawler> from grub ?
[23:35] <cain-pol> as soon as you start up your system
[23:35] <amicrawler> you mean my desktop options
[23:36] <amicrawler> like gnome,openbox,unity etc:
[23:36] <amicrawler> or when i boot cold
[23:36] <cain-pol> when you turn on your system
[23:37] <amicrawler> it all started when i was try to update my video driver
[23:37] <cain-pol> check the version on that
[23:37] <mekhami> is anyone familiar with terminator and vim? i'm trying to get my colors to work but i'm very lost
[23:37] <amicrawler> dont know how to get xorg to change video driver
[23:38] <amicrawler> un like x server
[23:38] <wileee> amicrawler, So at one time your were fine till you tried another driver?
[23:38] <amicrawler> sound like it
[23:38] <OerHeks> amicrawler, you again ? you posted that on the 15th ...
[23:38] <OerHeks> :-D
[23:38] <cain-pol> im so confused....
[23:38] <wileee> OerHeks, been about 2 weeks of posting
[23:39] <Guest82358> Hi everyone.  I'm installing Ubuntu 15.04 and I'm not sure where to install the boot loader.  Should it go on /dev/sda or /dev/sda1?
[23:39] <amicrawler> no that is not right
[23:39] <EriC^^> Guest82358: /dev/sda
[23:39] <wileee> Guest82358, uefi msdos context?
[23:39] <cain-pol> Guest82358, /dev/sda
[23:39] <Guest82358> Thanks guys
[23:39] <Gerowen> Anybody know of a way to embed a small web page on your desktop?  I tried using the "webframe" screenlet, but it won't let me make the frame any smaller than 200px.  Screenshot: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6017319/webframe-sizelimit.png
[23:40] <AndroUser> Amicable try YouTube compiz might give you a work around with your problem
[23:40] <cain-pol> Gerowen, where the image ends hold left click and drag it down
[23:42] <Gerowen> cain-pol: It just drags the whole screenlet around.
[23:42] <Gerowen> cain-pol: The image is actually a php web page
[23:44] <cain-pol> Gerowen, what browser you using?
[23:44] <Gerowen> Guess I could hide the white by just dragging it out of the screen on the bottom edge.
[23:44] <amicrawler> http://picpaste.com/kNaWU1a5.png
[23:44] <Gerowen> cain-pol: The screenlet defaults to webkit I believe.
[23:44] <amicrawler> here is some thing new
[23:44] <amicrawler> here is what it is doing
[23:45] <cain-pol> i've had that problem before that the borders are black, i reinstalled Ubuntu and it was fine.
[23:45] <amicrawler> was there a work around beside that
[23:46] <cain-pol> not what i no of, try searching it up
[23:46] <amicrawler> how to i tell xorg or xserver what driver i'm using
[23:46] <amicrawler> like you can tell it in deb
[23:47] <amicrawler> i have
[23:47] <amicrawler> no body had the issue
[23:47] <amicrawler> or there not talking about it and fix
[23:47] <cain-pol> amicrawler, reinstall Ubuntu it helped me
[23:48] <amicrawler> how to i got to default driver for video
[23:49] <slk_> hi
[23:49] <amicrawler> is there a gui for xorg or xserver?
[23:49] <cain-pol> i dunno
[23:50] <histo> amicrawler: what?
[23:51] <OerHeks> amicrawler, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1292830 some solutions: ctrl alt F2 to tty2, do not login, just return to tty7 ctrl alt F7
[23:51] <bekks> amicrawler: xserver/xorg is the core component for displaying a gui, so your question is somehoe - unclear.
[23:52] <OerHeks> amicrawler, you were posting the same pic for days, so we did not notice the borders.
[23:52] <histo> amicrawler: your picture didn't work
[23:52] <shine_> Does anyone know what's going on with the flash plugin for firefox? I looked into it a little bit a bout a week ago; and, iirc, it seems the only soln was a manual insall, or that there was no newer version (bc adobe decided to quit making the plugin for linux), or something like that. Bottom line, is there any simple way to solve the problem? Simple being the operative word here.
[23:52] <histo> amicrawler: if you are having issues with sna using intel try switching uxa as your acceleration method.
[23:53] <wileee> shine_, last time you updated?
[23:53] <histo> shine_: I no longer use flash
[23:53] <cain-pol> shine_, change browsers i swapped to Chromium and it was finw
[23:53] <shine_> wilee, that's another issue. I have the efi install of ubuntu 10:04. So I have the low disk space issue in boot and that is a big mess.
[23:53] <shine_> cain-pol: not thanks
[23:53] <bekks> cain-pol: chromium does not ship any flash plugins, chrome does.
[23:54] <histo> shine_: remove some old kernels
[23:54] <shine_> Generally speaking, I feel like I spend more time fixing stuff than just enjoying the system. I love ubu (been using it about 12 years now, but this is getting old.
[23:54] <bekks> !10.04 | shine_
[23:54] <cain-pol> bekks, it does for me
[23:55] <bekks> cain-pol: It does for no one, since the package doesnt contain any flash plugins.
[23:55] <bekks> cain-pol: chromium uses the stock adobe plugin, not pepperflash as chrome does.
[23:55] <shine_> bekks: seems like that's the gist of what I found a week ago - that adobe quit making it for us
[23:55] <histo> amicrawler: try putting http://termbin.com/vfd1 in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf
[23:56] <cain-pol> thats what im using chrome, did i say chromium?
[23:56] <bekks> cain-pol: you did :)
[23:56] <cain-pol> welp....
[23:56] <histo> shine_: adobe hasn't been updating flash for linux for sometime. They were however allegedly releasing security updates but none has come yet for nix.
[23:56] <cain-pol> haha, i was ment to say chrome
[23:56] <histo> chrome is using that pepper flash thing.
[23:57] <histo> There is gnash, pepper flash, or nothing.
[23:57] <cain-pol> pepper flash-plugin
[23:57] <wileee> ff is not blocking the update we did get
[23:57] <YellowGTO> Anyone know of a similar program to putty, with a history function?
[23:57] <wileee> not promoting flash tjough
[23:57] <YellowGTO> (For windows)
[23:58] <shine_> histo: cain-pol: is there a different flash plugin that works with firefox? And would that be a more long-term soln for me?
[23:59] <shine_> I guess the real question there is whether it would be a long-term soln. Sick of dealing with stuff. Just want to use the system.
[23:59] <cain-pol> shine_, yes their is a different plugin
[23:59] <wileee> shine_, you're eol if you were running a support you would not be here