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didrocksgood morning05:03
seb128good morning desktopers!07:03
didrocksre seb12807:05
seb128re didrocks :-)07:05
seb128Laney, there is a grumpy user on bug #1447224 having issues with the update, can you check if those are regression from the sru update?07:15
ubot5bug 1447224 in totem (Ubuntu) "Regression: Unable to select audio or subtitle tracks" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144722407:15
willcookemorning08:03
Laneyhello08:03
Laneyseb128: see regression potential in the report08:03
didrockshey willcooke, Laney!08:04
seb128Laney, hey, oh I see, is that an unity issue? why can't gmenu based menus be used while old style ones work?08:05
seb128hey willcooke08:07
seb128Laney, had a good w.e?08:07
Sweet5harkmoin08:12
Sweet5harkTIL you can troll reddit into a few thousand blog views by bikeshedding about C++ idoms ...08:12
seb128hey Sweet5hark08:12
didrocksgood morning Sweet5hark08:12
Sweet5harkBonjour, seb128!08:12
Sweet5harket didrocks!08:12
seb128Sweet5hark, is that what you did this w.e? ;-)08:12
RAOFHm, no pitti? On holiday no doubt, the dastard!08:13
Sweet5harkseb128: yes: https://skyfromme.wordpress.com/2015/07/18/blast-from-the-past-the-pimpl/08:13
RAOFAlso, hello seb128, didrocks, Sweet5hark and everyone!08:13
seb128RAOF, he is, indeed!08:13
seb128RAOF, hey08:14
Sweet5harkseb128: well, and buying a new amp as my old one broke. The new amp then needed "testing".08:14
* RAOF is no longer on holiday :)08:14
didrocksgood evening RAOF ;)08:14
Laneyseb128: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/05/%23ubuntu-desktop.html#t10:1708:14
Laneyyes, fine weekend thanks, wedding then hanging out with family08:14
Laneyhey didrocks!!!!!!!08:14
seb128Laney, thanks for log, and I agree on the "fair enough"08:16
seb128can you maybe comment on the bug still so the grumpy user doesn't become even grumpied?08:16
seb128r08:16
Laneyhaha, if only commenting will have that effect08:18
Laneybut yes08:18
Laneythx for fixing gtk btw08:19
Laneynew mir seems to have knackered boot tests08:19
Laneyanpok: have you seen that?08:19
anpokLaney: that was on thursday to friday night I think..08:22
anpoki forgot to add the url-dispatcher MP to the spread sheet..08:23
Laneyhmm?08:23
anpokurl-dispatcher is another mirclient user08:24
Laneyanpok: will that fix the boottest failure?08:24
anpoki am not sure if the rebuilt url-dispatcher is in proposed yet08:24
Laneyhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/url-dispatcher/0.1+15.10.20150717-0ubuntu1 this is08:25
anpokoh that happened already on friday08:26
seb128Laney, yw for gtk, thanks to pitti for finding it through some testing infra (I think)08:27
seb128Laney, the bootest thing was discussed a bit on friday yes, people were not able to reproduce and the test provide almost no detail08:27
seb128unsure if they came to any conclusion08:27
Laneybleh08:28
LaneyI just see a timeout error08:28
seb128right, like the dash was not coming up08:28
Laneyit should attach logs really08:29
Laneywould file a bug if I knew which ones would be useful08:29
Laney.cache/upstart/* and ...?08:29
anpokwould boottest attempt to uninstall older package provided by an older mir release?08:29
anpoklightdm and unity-system-compositor logs .. probably08:30
anpok /var/log/lightdm/*08:30
anpoki mean if it attempts to uninstall those provided by the old mir release it would remove all clients08:31
anpokor libraries depending on clients..08:31
LaneyI don't think so08:31
Laneyhttps://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/wily-boottest-mir/lastBuild/artifact/results/log/*view*/08:31
seb128that log is weird08:34
seb128the silo/mir update includes more component than those updated08:35
seb128like platform-api rebuilds08:35
seb128unsure if the issue is that those are missing08:35
Laneyit didn't update the whole transition08:41
Laneyjust that one package I guess08:41
seb128yeah08:41
Laneywould that break things?08:41
seb128there might miss conflicts or such08:41
seb128no idea08:41
seb128unsure if anyone tested it out of the silo08:41
seb128in partial upgrade scenarios08:41
Laneylemme dig out the phone and charge it up08:41
seb128I tested the mir update on friday08:42
seb128but that was full silo set08:42
seb128let me see if I can downgrade bits08:42
LaneyI was going to run the boottest locally08:42
Laneyassuming that is possible08:42
seb128dunno if that's possible, if you figure it out let me know how, that can be useful08:44
seb128bah, n7 went flat over the w.e, of course08:45
Laneywill need a while to charge it up too08:46
Laneyhaven't used for ages08:46
Laneyseb128: anpok: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-test-cases/+bug/147615308:47
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1476153 in Ubuntu Test Cases "boottest runs don't export enough logs" [Undecided,New]08:47
seb128Laney, thanks08:47
Laneydunno if that is the right project08:49
anpokseb128, Laney: can we rerun wily-boottest-mir?08:57
seb128some people did on friday I think08:58
seb128it's also failing for the different components involved in that transition, not only on one08:58
anpokbut that was before the url-dispatcher landing?08:59
seb128that doesn't matter08:59
seb128url-dispatcher not build rebuilt wouldn't prevent unity8 to start08:59
anpoki agree because it was no problem during testing09:02
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seb128Laney, anpok, k, I can reproduce the issue easily09:20
seb128I just downgraded unity-system-compositor09:20
seb128that's not updated on https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/wily-boottest-mir/lastBuild/artifact/results/log/*view*/09:20
seb128if you get u-s-c built with old mir and update mir u-s-c hits a a stack smash error09:22
Laneynice09:22
Laneysome Breaks needed then I guess09:22
seb128indeed09:22
seb128updating u-s-c, restart lightdm and things work09:23
Laneywant to manually upload it to see if it fixes boottest?09:24
seb128unsure09:25
seb128I would prefer for the mir team to fix it as want/commit the fix at the proper place09:25
seb128I mentioned it on  #ci-eng as well09:25
Laneybleh, this always takes ages09:26
Laneybut as you wish09:26
seb128also I'm unsure if mir <-> u-s-c is the issue09:26
seb128or if we should only have one libmirclient<n> installed09:26
seb128that needs to match the server09:26
seb128Laney, well, feel free to do the change/upload if you want, I'm not going to stop you or complain ;-)09:27
seb128I'm just not sure enough of what's the right change/prefer to wait a bit for mir team the ping back with what they want to be done09:28
Laneyok, we can do that09:28
RAOFUrgh. We've gone to some lengths to ensure multiple libmirclient should be usable in parallel :(09:44
chrisccoulsonricotz, you asked about thunderbird 38.1.0 on friday - I've just opened bug 147616909:45
ubot5bug 1476169 in thunderbird (Ubuntu Vivid) "Update Thunderbird to 38.1.0" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147616909:45
chrisccoulsonricotz, also, thanks for uploading the new Firefox beta. Would you mind updating the bzr branches though? :)09:49
ricotzchrisccoulson, ah nice ;)09:54
ricotzchrisccoulson, I didnt bother to push changelog-only change, and those branches could use some updates e.g. update bzr-format and sync them a bit to reduce the diff09:56
ricotz(so I don't want to mess with them)09:57
anpokseb128: why is u-s-c not updated with wily-boottest-mir?10:01
anpokhm the boottest also keeps qtmir10:02
anpokah .. ok i guess I misunderstood what boottest does..10:04
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seb128RAOF, well, what bit changed in a incompatible way making u-s-c not start?12:02
seb128anpok, bootest seems to do "take $current_distro, install $update, check the system boots"12:02
seb128so to test the mir update, it installs only mir12:03
anpokseb128: the problem seems to be that with the update we load mircommon and mirplatform from both 0.14 and 0.13.3.. I believe we could resolve that by bumping the version number of the android server platofmr package.. but I am not sure if that would cover all cases. still looking where the actual failure happens12:08
seb128anpok, you could use package depends/conflicts/... etc to make sure that new mir uninstall old u-s-c12:09
seb128but I'm unsure the issue is specific to u-s-c12:09
seb128if it's wrong to have 2 versions of mircommon/mirplatform loaded, maybe then those libs should conflict12:09
LaneyRAOF said it is supposed to work12:10
anpokyes it ought to work .. kind of (as in we do not have an acceptance test that proves it).. the failure happens during the first client connect..12:11
seb128Laney, yeah, so maybe the right fix is a mir code fix12:11
seb128and not forcing u-s-c the be updated with mir12:11
* Laney nods12:11
Laneygood that it found a real bug12:11
seb128:-)12:12
seb128unsure what to do next12:12
seb128that might not be worth holding the update, in practice it impacts only partial upgrades12:12
* anpok currently looks into debugging the issue.. 12:12
anpokbut we could also take a short cut and mark the versions conflicting..12:12
anpokor even that12:13
seb128right, that's probably good enough to unblock that migration, shouldn't be used as a reason to not investigate the issue though12:13
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Sweet5harkugh. after trolling reddit over the weekend, now someone posted this to hacker news ...13:48
willcookeSweet5hark, dont leave us hanging :)14:03
Sweet5harkwillcooke: oh just my pointless bikeshedding rant on C++ coding style: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=991584114:05
willcooke:)14:06
balloonsack14:38
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seb128Laney, unsure if you are following that totem sru bug, one user claims the update make the rotation item stop working, I asked him to open a new bug report about that, it works on wily but I don't have a vivid system handy to test the SRU (can do in a vm if you want though)15:47
Laneyyes I am subscribed, I will try later15:53
Laneyhttp://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/rotate.png works16:06
Laneyignore the corruption16:06
seb128Laney, good :-)16:08
seb128you also get that font corruption issue then?16:09
seb128it's an annoying one :-/16:09
Laneyseb128: seems bug #126191616:14
ubot5bug 1261916 in xserver-xorg-video-qxl (Ubuntu) "Missing letters in spice client session with KVM guest" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126191616:14
Laneypatch to disable composite something is linked there by mlankhorst16:14
seb128oh ok, not the same then16:14
Laneyno?16:14
seb128it happens sometime on my real system with the intel driver16:14
Laneyoh right, no I never see it there16:15
seb128https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8858416:15
ubot5Freedesktop bug 88584 in Driver/intel "[ilk] Font and screen corruption in GTK+ applications" [Major,New]16:15
Laneyhaha16:19
Laneyhttp://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/xorg-x11-drv-qxl.git/tree/0001-worst-hack-of-all-time-to-qxl-driver.patch16:19
seb128hack!16:25
* Laney sees that charles left us :(16:42
willcooke?!16:49
Laney!!! just this channel16:49
ubot5Laney: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:49
Laneybe calm16:49
Laneyyou too ubot516:49
willcookeheh16:49
willcookelaney and ubot5 are like two little Fonzys16:50
davmor2willcooke: surely that would be, "Be Coooooool"  not be calm :)16:52
Laneyyou people are too old for me16:52
davmor2willcooke: Followed by Heeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyy16:52
willcooke\o/16:52
davmor2you Laney 's get off my lawn16:53
* Laney tears it up with a mini moto16:54
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davmor2Laney: hahaha mini moto, now I have an image of you something like this http://www.aboutfacesentertainers.com/images/clowns/mayhem/may_g_little_bike.jpg17:06
ogra_lol17:11
willcookeg'night all17:23
mitya57bregma, any update on https://code.launchpad.net/~mitya57/compiz/switcher-plugins-in-default/+merge/262518 review?19:02
Noskcajrobert_ancell, adding a libcanberra build-dep to gnome-clocks fixes the current ftbfs. should the dep be in gnome-clocks or gsound?21:22
robert_ancellNoskcaj, I'm looking at it right now and scratching my head because neither gnome-clocks or gsound appears to require a dep on it21:23
robert_ancellI'm wondering if another dependency requires it and is missing the dep21:25
robert_ancellaha, it is in /usr/share/vala/vapi/gsound.deps21:27
robert_ancellSo it should be in libgsound-dev21:27
robert_ancellThough perhaps the .deps shouldn't include it21:27
robert_ancellNoskcaj, yeah, looks like a bug in libgsound - I'll patch it21:35
Noskcajok, thanks21:35
NoskcajDo we want to do the gegl transition ahead of debian?21:39
robert_ancellNoskcaj, I wasn't sure. It didn't seem like too much work as long as Debian catches up and we can sync with them afterwards.21:45
robert_ancellI have no idea what timeframe Debian is following on it21:45
robert_ancellhttps://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75264521:46
ubot5Gnome bug 752645 in general "Remove unnecessary Vala dependency on libcanberra" [Normal,New]21:46
robert_ancellFixed in gsound 1.0.1-0ubuntu221:46
Noskcajrobert_ancell, I assume it's just because the gimp maintainer hasn't replied. I'll see if i can find him21:49
ochosiSweet5hark: hey! is there already some sort of ETA for LO 5.0 (and then in wily)?22:06

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