[01:57] <notnola> Hello guys! For someone that isn't that fluent in the Linux of things... But has been using Ubuntu-Gnome and Manjaro on their laptop for a few months as daily drivers - I am courious as to what exactly makes each distro unique? Mainly - why can't Ubuntu packages be installed into Arch, and as well in reverse?
[01:58] <krbtgt> different package managers
[01:59] <krbtgt> manjaro uses pacman, ubuntu uses apt+dpkg
[01:59] <krbtgt> most of the time this doesn't even matter much. for the most part, distro hopping is mostly changing default wallpaper.
[03:00] <notnola> Haha, sorry I had to AFK for a minute, but thanks for answer krbtgt.
[03:02] <notnola> The reason I had asked is because I have been struggling to compile webcamstudio in Arch - while it was as easy as 1.2.3 in Ubuntu. I know it is because of different versions of the dependencies, and what not - But I would have just assumed there is something that would mediate this presumingly simple flaw.
[08:52] <notnola> Hello guys! I think I screwed something up. would somehow having installed both gnome2 in ubuntu-gnome be causing gnome to constantly lock up?
[08:54] <darkxst> notnola, there is not any gnome2 left
[08:55] <darkxst> that was forked to MATE, and won't conflict with gnome3
[08:55] <darkxst> (some apps still use gtk2, but thats not a problem)
[08:55] <notnola> Well - why would I have .gnome2 in my home dir?
[08:55] <notnola> Ahhh, okay.
[08:56] <darkxst> notnola, because firefox, libreoffice are gtk2
[08:56] <darkxst> and probably others
[08:56] <notnola> does apt have a command to let me see what other packages are using the gtk2 packages?
[08:57] <darkxst> apt-cache rdepends libgtk2
[08:57] <darkxst> but that won't break your system
[08:58] <notnola> Hum - Well, I am always getting weird forced closes - this sounds bad but i don't remember many of the applications that get closed - but I do remember "alacarte" getting closed quite often and just not working.
[08:59] <darkxst> doesnt seem related to gtk2
[09:00] <darkxst> alacarte should be gtk3?
[09:05] <notnola> Sorry about that - Gnome locked up all together.
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[09:06] <notnola> I think I am just going to reinstall and start fresh. Is there a program that will take snapshots of the system; that I can restore from when things like this arise again?
[09:09] <darkxst> notnola, dejadup
[09:10] <darkxst> I think, I do all my experimenting in VMware which has its own snapshot system
[09:15] <notnola> How does that work? it takes a snapshot of your current machine witch you can run side by side with your test environment?
[09:16] <notnola> I have never used it, it always seemed to complicated compared to VirtualBox
[09:17] <darkxst> notnola, vmware kills virtualbox in every possbile way (apart from price) but the vmware player is free and can do most)
[09:17] <darkxst> click a button, it saves a snapshot, experiment/break and then you can revert to that snapshot
[09:18] <notnola> I assume VMware Workstation is what you are referring to. It has a free trial that I am going to explorer.
[09:20] <notnola> I remember hearing about a VM software that would allow you to run a dualboot side by side. For instance, I have Windows installed on another partition; would VMware Workstation allow me to run the Windows partition in a VM within linux?
[09:20] <darkxst> notnola, vmware player is free for personal use (although yes I do use worksatation)
[09:22] <darkxst> not sure vmware can boot a windows partition directly, never tried that
[09:22] <darkxst> it must be 10 years since I had one of those on any of my pc's
[09:24] <notnola> To be honest - I am not sure why I have not fully converted other than the lack of support for Grand Theft Auto 5 and Battle Field 4.
[09:26] <notnola> Although, I am going to be taking a few classes in school that is going to require me to have Visual Studio's installed, so if I could just run my already configured and installed Windows partition from within Linux... Brilliant!
[09:27] <notnola> Thanks for the recommendations. If I could lend your services for one more question - I am curious as to how I would go about diagnosing my issues as they seem to be intermittent, so I don't make the same mistake twice. I am trying to get a better understanding of this.
[10:03] <darkxst> notnola, Visual Studio will work in a VM fine, probably not the games though
[10:04] <darkxst> vmware 3D is way better than vbox, but still only about 60% of native
[10:05] <notnola> Yeah, I know performance won't be up to par, I wouldn't even consider it. My point was it would be cool to not have to even leave Linux, or install Windows in a VM - if I could just run the Windows I have already have installed in a VM. I'm reading about options now actually.
[11:13] <krbtgt> vmware can boot windows partitions directly
[11:14] <krbtgt> but it's a good way to get a BSoD in the guest or at worst really confuse it
[12:52] <Shah> Hello
[13:17] <LinDol> hi all :)
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