[05:17] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:18] <rbasak> jamespage: bug 1475910 looks like it would be relevant to you
[10:18] <rbasak> Argh. Now we have two bots?
[10:22] <jamespage> rbasak, yuck
[10:28] <Daviey> testing bug 1475992
[10:28] <Daviey> rbasak / jamespage: fix0rd
[10:29] <Daviey> Damn.
[10:32] <rbasak> Daviey: thanks
[14:03] <whollyjordan_> I'm learning the basics of running a linux server (ubuntu.) I want to get feedback on whether it would be considered irresponsible of me to setup and manage websites on a linode.com VPS? No email server. Just a web server. I have a tech background but not in servers. No idea if this is considered a big no no or not for beginners?
[14:38] <fcefan> whollyjordan_: "Just a webserver" is not that easy. You need to choose the webserver (Apache, Lighttpd, Nginx) and configure it accordingly for HTTPS, PHP and the like
[14:48] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I print specific emails from command line? (and also check for new emails all the time?) basically I have a gmail account and I want to be able to print automatically all receiving emails with specific subject.
[14:57] <jerto> mojtaba: I don't see how your question is related to ubuntu server
[15:02] <ogra_> jerto, it is a printserver :)
[15:11] <jerto> ogra_: I don't know anything about print servers ;-). I guess it's a simple Cron task to set up though.
[15:12] <ogra_> :)
[15:17] <obi12341> hello ppl, is there any reason why there is only unbound 1.4.22 in the repos and no 1.5?
[16:38] <teward> anyone know what the minimum specs are to run a Landscape Dedicated Server (personal license)
[17:27] <Luke> I'm trying to run "systemd --user" commands but everything fails because the user dbus isn't running. Is this correct or should there be a dbus already running for the user?
[17:28] <Luke> what's the proper way to start the dbus user instance?
[18:25] <mrtee> my server has two network cards and i assigned openvpn to the secondary one. How can i see what it’s outside ip address is?
[18:26] <enleeten> /sbin/ifconfig
[18:26] <enleeten> or if you're behind a nat, google for whats my ip address
[18:27] <mrtee> i am behind a nat… i tried curl ifconfig.co but it only shows me the one of my primary interface
[18:30] <enleeten> you could try using links2
[18:30] <enleeten> cli browser :)
[18:30] <enleeten> I was thinking traceroute
[18:32] <sarnold> mrtee: you can use curl --interface to select which local addrfess to use as a source
[18:34] <mrtee> the syntax would be curl —interface em1 ifconfig.co ???
[18:35] <sarnold> --interface
[18:36] <sarnold> and if you've configured your openvpn to use a tunnel, and you want to test the other peer's address, you'd use whatever tunnel you configured
[18:36] <mrtee> i signed up for a VPN, all i did was download their config and then load openvpn with —local
[18:37] <enleeten> if you're the client you don't need to know your external ip
[18:37] <enleeten> unless they require it (e.g. for opening a port)
[18:37] <mrtee> well it’s more out of couriosity really
[19:03] <linuxgec1o> hey guys.  i tried this question in #ubuntu, and they seemed to think you guys would be better suited to help. I'm trying start a pxe install of ubuntu from a non-ubuntu pxe server. i have ubuntu iso's, and i have files in what i think are the right places.    but i get kernel panics on pxe boot. anyone able to help me get the files/options right to get a working install?
[19:12] <Luke> Guys i think i've run into a ubuntu specific systemd error: http://askubuntu.com/questions/650665/how-to-use-systemd-user-instance
[19:12] <Luke> my suspicion is that ubuntu isn't set up properly
[19:13] <sarnold> Luke: please file a bug in launchpad if you  think you've found a bug
[19:13] <sarnold> Luke: ubuntu-bug systemd   ought to do the  right thing
[19:13] <Luke> sarnold: ok thank you
[19:14] <Luke> i'm not 100% certain it's a bug yet. i'm not sure exactly what the proper behavior is. but gentoo, for example. does it differently
[19:14] <Luke> i'm looking for confirmation it's a bug basically
[19:16] <sarnold> Luke: systemd is new enough to us that there's probalby only a few people who could say, and the easiest way to get their feedback is a bug report ;) if it's a bug, they'll deal with it there, if it is n't a bug, hopefully they'll explain why before closing :)
[19:16] <Luke> yeah
[19:16] <Luke> ty
[19:16] <Luke> doing it now
[19:20] <Luke> sarnold: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1476364
[19:21] <sarnold> Luke: very nice
[19:23] <Luke> sarnold: seems like a big oversight if it is a bug though... lots of people use user-level upstart for example and systemd is now default
[20:40] <helo> should rescue mode on the server installer have bash?
[20:41] <sarnold> probably
[20:41] <sarnold> dash at a minimum
[20:41] <jamespage> coreycb, congrats!
[20:41] <coreycb> jamespage, thanks!
[20:42] <helo> it apparently does not have dash or bash
[20:42] <helo> or fsck -.-
[20:43] <genii> Perhaps you're confusing grub prompt with rescue prompt
[20:43] <helo> heh, no.
[20:45] <helo> i'm familiar with the ncurses interface (from which i selected rescue mode without root)
[20:50] <genii> The /bin/sh should point to dash, yes
[21:35] <helo> sh may be dash, but there is no dash
[21:36] <helo> oh well, i was just using the server installer as a bootable custom root installer
[21:36] <helo> the live desktop works well enough
[21:43] <FunnyLookinHat> Hey guys - what's the simplest way to get one of these images booted after applying cloud-localds to it?  http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/trusty/current/
[21:52] <Luke> FunnyLookinHat: hey man!
[21:52] <Luke> haven't talked to you in like... 10 years
[22:23] <YamakasY_> any knows if I can set LANG in puppet.conf ?
[22:30] <FunnyLookinHat> Luke, yo!
[22:30] <FunnyLookinHat> Sorry - doing like - a dozen things at once...
[22:31] <FunnyLookinHat> lhoerste ?
[22:33] <Tzunamii> YamakasY_: LC_ALL=<change me> LANG=<change me> service puppet start
[22:34] <YamakasY_> Tzunamii: doesn't work
[22:35] <YamakasY_> Tzunamii: I need to set it in the init.d file
[22:35] <Tzunamii> YamakasY_: What did you substitute <change me> with?
[22:35] <YamakasY_> en_US.UTF-8
[22:36] <YamakasY_> Tzunamii: it's a known issue
[22:36] <YamakasY_> Tzunamii: https://tickets.puppetlabs.com/browse/SERVER-779
[22:37] <sarnold> ewww. gross.
[22:38] <YamakasY_> sarnold: wazzup ?
[22:38] <sarnold> hey YamakasY_ :)
[22:38] <sarnold> YamakasY_: that's some ugly looking errors..
[22:38] <YamakasY_> sarnold: yes and I already know it for months and everyone thought I was nuts
[22:39] <YamakasY_> now you see this error popping up everywhere
[22:39] <FunnyLookinHat> OK - So it looks like uvtool is the best way to test cloud images... but it seems to require root to do everything.
[22:39] <FunnyLookinHat> And it's a big buggy - like it wouldn't attach my ssh keys correctly.
[22:40] <YamakasY_> sarnold: and it seems I can only set the lang in /etc/init.d/puppet
[22:40] <sarnold> FunnyLookinHat: I'd hope being in the libvirtd group would suffice
[22:41] <sarnold> YamakasY_: yeah, the environment variable needs to be set before the program starts
[22:42] <YamakasY_> sarnold: yap, so ALL doesn't do shit ?
[22:42] <sarnold> YamakasY_: you may also have some success if you use locale-gen to create the locales that your system is missing
[22:42] <YamakasY_> sarnold: yeah tried that, doesn't work out
[22:42] <sarnold> dang
[22:42] <YamakasY_> or did I need to restart puppet ?
[22:42] <sarnold> no idea about LC_ALL
[22:42] <FunnyLookinHat> sarnold, sudo usermod -a -G libvirtd funnylookinhat && uvt-kvm create test
[22:42] <sarnold> YamakasY_: yeah, you would need to restart it
[22:42] <FunnyLookinHat> That yields: uvt-kvm: error: libvirt: Failed to connect socket to '/var/run/libvirt/libvirt-sock': Permission denied
[22:42] <YamakasY_> sarnold: you shitty person, why didn't you told me that earlier ? :P
[22:43] <sarnold> FunnyLookinHat: you don't automatically get added to the group; use newgrp libvirtd to spawn a new shell with the new group
[22:43] <sarnold> YamakasY_: lol :)
[22:43] <YamakasY_> sarnold: ok, let's hug and share the feeling
[22:45] <FunnyLookinHat> sarnold, ah duh - yes, thank you.
[22:50] <YamakasY_> sarnold: you!
[22:54] <YamakasY_> sarnold: ok fixed
[22:54] <YamakasY_> but the gen and so on doesn't work
[22:55] <sarnold> YamakasY_: I wonder why :/
[22:58] <YamakasY_> sarnold: me also
[22:58] <YamakasY_> I know my gender tho
[22:58] <YamakasY_> gen/gender
[23:00] <YamakasY_> sarnold: what about env in the puppet.conf ?
[23:00] <sarnold> YamakasY_: that's unlikely to work; most programs try to initialize the locale immediately so error messages are properly localized
[23:01] <sarnold> YamakasY_: maybe they added some support for it, but I would be surprised
[23:02] <YamakasY_> sarnold: also the PATH is set in init.d for puppet
[23:05] <YamakasY_> sarnold: this is weird, I remove LANG from environments and restart puppet and it still works :S
[23:06] <sarnold> YamakasY_: how did you remove LANG from the environment, and how did you restart puppet?
[23:06] <YamakasY_> sarnold: just removed the line and did a puppet restart
[23:07] <sarnold> does puppet restart use the init script to restart puppet? or does it just re-exec puppet?
[23:07] <YamakasY_> I just stopped and started it again.. testing now
[23:08] <YamakasY_> sarnold: same, doing a reboot
[23:13] <YamakasY_> sarnold: ok, than it happens again
[23:13] <YamakasY_> where does export place the export ?
[23:17] <sarnold> YamakasY_: 'export' in the current shell? or in an init.d script?
[23:23] <YamakasY_> sarnold: no it's temp in current sheel
[23:23] <YamakasY_> shell
[23:23] <YamakasY_> shall I puppetize it or not ?
[23:23] <sarnold> YamakasY_: then it gets set into the envirnment of the processes spawned by that shell
[23:24] <YamakasY_> yap
[23:24] <YamakasY_> ok, so option... puppetize it I think ?
[23:25] <sarnold> .. do you mean, try to write a puppet recipe to fix the /etc/init.d/puppet on all your systems to set them to e.g. LANG=C?
[23:26] <YamakasY_> sarnold: yes but than in /etc/environment
[23:26] <YamakasY_> I think that is most wise
[23:26] <YamakasY_> most if UTF-8
[23:27] <sarnold> YamakasY_: /etc/environment is only used by PAM services with pam_env -- it shouldn't have any effect on services started via sysvinit scripts
[23:27] <YamakasY_> sarnold: I restart puppet after it ;)
[23:27] <YamakasY_> sarnold: oh btw it does
[23:27] <YamakasY_> for puppet
[23:28] <sarnold> it does? that's odd.
[23:28] <YamakasY_> is it ?
[23:52] <h0mer_> Hopefully im in the right place, but is this the right channel to ask questions about openstack/ubuntu/landscape?
[23:57] <h0mer_> i guess not