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NairwolfHi04:10
nhainesHi!04:11
NairwolfI'm new here, and in California04:11
NairwolfI would like to know if there is Ubuntu user meeting near from San Francisco ?04:13
NairwolfThere are some HackerSpace in the area ?04:13
DonkeyHoteithere is an Ubuntu Hour in sf, and several hackerspaces around, including noisebridge, sudoroom, hackerdojo, and techshop04:15
NairwolfOooh, thank you ;)04:17
NairwolfI will look where it is04:18
NairwolfI didn't know what is an Ubuntu Hour, thank you ;) That's look nice !04:18
nhainesNairwolf: Ubuntu Hour is nice because it's just a quick way to meet people and chat about Ubuntu. :)04:22
Nairwolfindeed ;)04:23
Nairwolfwhen is the next meeting ?04:24
NairwolfI saw this page : http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/3099-ubuntu-hour-san-francisco/04:24
darthrobotTitle: [Ubuntu Hour San Francisco | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]04:24
NairwolfThe next Ubuntu Hour is 9th August ?04:46
nhainesThat sounds right.04:56
Nairwolfok, I hope I will not forget it ;)04:56
nhainesIt's a regular event.  :)04:58
Nairwolfindeed04:58
nhainesThe IRC channel is pretty quiet but you're welcome to idle in here.  And you've already found the mailing list.  :)05:06
NairwolfThank you ;)05:08
NairwolfIf you have ever gone in another country, it's sometimes difficult to meet other people. As I'm here to learn a lot things (english, but also technical stuff), I think it could be great to meet some techies guy in hackerspace or ubuntu meeting.05:09
nhainesYes, I've been to Germany and it's a little tricky at first.  Luckily, the Ubuntu family is worldwide!05:11
NairwolfYes, that's what I think ;)05:11
NairwolfDo you contribute to Ubuntu, nhaines ? Or are you an user ?05:21
ianorlinhi Nairwolf05:23
Nairwolfhi ianorlin ;) I didn't know that you were here ;)05:24
ianorlinwell mentally it is a bit hard as it too hot and humid05:25
nhainesNairwolf: I'm one of the leaders of the California Team, and I am on the LoCo Council, and I sometimes give presentations.  :)05:25
Nairwolfthat's great nhaines ;) So you're a manager guy, that's right ?05:26
ianorlinhmm I think I may take laptop outside as it isn't as hot05:26
nhainesWell, I've ended up doing a lot of that.  Mostly I prefer to be a writer and a public speaker.  :)05:27
NairwolfI don't feel it's too hot, here.. It's windy, so it's okay for me. I thought it was hotter in California ^^05:27
philipballewNairwolf, where in the state do you live?05:28
Nairwolfokay, that's great also nhaines05:28
Nairwolfphillipballew : I'm from France. In the south. It's almost the same weather during the summer05:28
philipballewNairwolf, are you the person I just emailed?05:29
NairwolfIn august there is often storms, in the south of France, with rain. I don't know here.05:29
NairwolfYes, it's me05:29
philipballewNairwolf, ah, cool, It is raining here currently05:30
ianorlinalthuogh I am close to the beach and don't have air condictigng05:30
Nairwolfhere ? Where are you living ? Here, at Fremont it's not raining05:31
nhainesWe're all in Southern California, although all pretty far from each other at that.  :)05:31
philipballewnhaines, lake forest is like an hour and a half from san diego id say right?05:32
nhainesThereabouts, usually.05:33
philipballewnhaines, I am in San Diego.05:33
nhainesI know.  :)05:33
philipballewshoot, sorry nhaines I meant to type Nairwolf05:33
nhainesOh, haha.05:33
philipballewnhaines,  is actually the only person here cool enough to visit me here.05:33
philipballewNairwolf, southern california is worth a trip though.05:34
NairwolfSan Diego ! California (and America) is so huge...05:34
NairwolfYeah, I would like to do it (trip to southern california), but as I don't have car, and I work during the week. It would be during a week-end05:35
philipballewNairwolf, San Diego is massive. it is has parts of the city that are close to 30 miles apart05:35
NairwolfMaybe later05:35
ianorlinNairwolf: space is biiger05:35
philipballewNairwolf, We do have airplanes here05:35
philipballewSouthwest is pretty cheap05:35
* ianorlin has still never been on an airplane05:35
Nairwolfthe flight to go to the south ?05:36
NairwolfYes, I should do it ;)05:36
NairwolfFirstly, I have to discover more the SF bay05:36
NairwolfIt's also so huge05:36
NairwolfMore than I thought ^^05:36
philipballewI flew to sacramento not long ago for 80 each way iirc.05:36
philipballewthe bay is pretty big.05:36
philipballewgo to Tahoe, and Yosemite as well.05:37
NairwolfYes, I would like to go to Yosemite05:38
philipballewNairwolf, I think greyhound or Amtrack goes there.05:38
NairwolfThis week I hope meet some rock climber. I hope that someone could pick me up to climb in the Yosemite Park05:38
Nairwolfwhat is that ?05:38
ianorlinnot laws ?05:39
philipballewNairwolf, grayhound is the bus and amtrack is the train05:39
Nairwolfah, bus and train05:39
ianorlinLA public transportation really does not go to torrance well at all05:39
NairwolfI'll see. Next week-end, I should go to Santa Clara05:40
philipballewIf you go to Tahoe, Rano is not really worth to much, but if you are cash strapped, it is a cheap place to stay05:40
philipballewNairwolf, go to the redwoods to, and Santa Cruz.05:40
philipballewalso Napa is great05:40
NairwolfAh ah ;) So much place to visit ! That's great !05:41
NairwolfI'm noting all of this place ;)05:41
philipballewNairwolf, yeah. that seems pretty cool.05:42
nhainesNairwolf: well, it's not going anywhere!  Unless it keeps raining and we slide into the sea.05:42
philipballewnhaines, have you had rain this weekend?05:42
Nairwolfwhat are you saying nhaines ?05:42
nhainesJust Friday and today.  But tons today!05:42
ianorlinnhaines: yes same05:42
NairwolfI will not have time to do geeks stuff ^^05:42
nhainesBut on the bright side you would have lots of time to enjoy the beach.05:43
nhainesAlthough Friday's thunderstorm was glorious!05:44
Nairwolfwhere are you living nhaines and ianorlin ? If it's not too private..05:45
philipballewnhaines, The thunder was scary here on the beach05:45
nhainesNairwolf: I live in Orange County.  It's hafway between Los Angeles and San Diego.05:45
philipballewAs a San Diego resident, I am taught to hate LA05:46
nhainesphilipballew: at the time I was just waiting for a call from my publisher and reading, so it was kind of nice.05:46
Nairwolfok, thank you05:46
NairwolfLA and SD don't like themselves ?05:46
philipballewnhaines, it woke me up at 630 am sadly.05:46
Nairwolfthere is rivalry ?05:47
philipballewthankfully it stopped by the time I had to get outside to cross the border05:47
philipballewNairwolf, not really revelry.05:47
nhainesAh, it was closer to 8am hee I think.05:48
philipballewI think people in southern california are all passionate about their respective cities.05:48
NairwolfIt's ovious05:48
Nairwolfit means that there are great cities, if everybody are proud of them ;)05:49
ianorlinTorrance05:49
philipballewNairwolf, Unless you are from Bakersfield amiright!!!05:49
* philipballew lets himself out05:49
ianorlinwhich is in LA but southewest05:50
nhainesThere's a lot of diversity everywhere.05:51
nhainesAnd best of all, the weather changes every week!05:51
Nairwolfianorlin : Also in the south !05:51
Nairwolfthere is nobody in the SF Bay ?05:52
ianorlinthere are they just aren't typing right now05:52
nhainesThere are a few people, but it's late on a Sunday, so many have gone to bed probably.05:52
nhainesYou'll definitely meet some at Ubuntu Hour!05:52
NairwolfYes, I hope ;)05:53
NairwolfDo you know meetup ? I didn't know this website. I will try to go to some IT meeting this week. And maybe in the hackerdojo this friday.05:53
NairwolfThat would be great ;)05:53
nhainesI know Meetup but I generally hate it. :)05:54
Nairwolfwhy ?05:54
nhainesThere's nothing wrong with it.  I just find it a bit messy.05:54
Nairwolfyes, I have this feeling too05:55
NairwolfBut I don't know yet, I'll see05:55
NairwolfIt's not very famous in France05:55
nhainesYeah, it's quite popular around here.  If you learn to use it you'll probably find some nice events.  :)05:55
NairwolfYes05:56
NairwolfFirstly, I join a several meetup groups. I'll see what they ask and what they organize05:56
NairwolfBut sometimes it's great to meet non-IT people05:56
nhainesYeah, and Meetup is great for that too.05:57
Nairwolfno, I wanted to say "It's easier". Because, usually, you can meet IT people on IRC, or with mailing-list. But, for non-IT people, they're not used to do that. I'm a climber and I would like to meet some climbers too ;)05:57
nhainesOh yes, I understand it's great for that.  :)05:58
nhainesHave you seen the Ubuntu phone yet?05:58
Nairwolfno, but that's look really great ;)05:59
NairwolfI have a Firefox OS, it's great too, but I think that the Ubuntu phone would be better05:59
nhainesI only used Firefox OS for about 5 minutes, but Ubuntu really impresses me on phones.  :)06:02
Nairwolfdo you have one ?06:03
Nairwolfwhat is great with Firefox OS is it use only web technologies. But there are some advantages and also some defaults.06:04
nhainesI have a Nexus 5 that's not supported but works great, and also a Nexus 7!06:04
NairwolfBut, i'm afraid that Mozilla stop the development of Firefox OS06:04
Nairwolfor it's slower06:04
nhainesA phone is a lot of work!06:04
Nairwolfnice ;)06:04
NairwolfThe bad thing for me is I have a cheap phone, so it's not really fast, and it has a bad camera06:05
Nairwolfalso bad speaker I suppose....06:05
Nairwolfbut that was great for me. I didn't want to spend so much money on a phone06:05
nhainesYes, that makes sense too.  :)06:07
nhainesI'm ready to use my tablet to run desktop applications.06:07
NairwolfYeah, this is really cool !!06:07
ianorlinI mean convegence will be awesome if you could in a hotel room bed play music on the tv in hotel room from a tablet laying in bed06:08
Nairwolfbut, for the ubuntu phone, there is a specific language to develop apps ? How does it work ?06:08
nhainesYou can use QML and C++, Javascript, or Go.06:09
Nairwolfooh06:14
Nairwolfit's different from Android which you need to use the java api06:15
Nairwolfdo you know this ? https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Main_Page06:15
darthrobot[403] Title: [Error reading title]06:15
nhainesI've never heard of it!06:16
Nairwolfokay, I've seen that on meetup06:19
Nairwolfokay, thank you guys for your advices ;) I'm leaving. I should spend time here now ;)06:20
NairwolfSee you soon06:20
nhainesHaha, it was great to meet you!06:20
nhainesTake care and see you soon!06:21
Nairwolfit was great too ;)06:21
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Roguehorse2I wonder if I got sick from one of my students?20:12
NairwolfHi20:47
blitzprobably - children are germ factories20:48
Roguehorse2it's just irony ... 12 yeaars of remission and I teach one class and have a major relapse...cant help but put 1 + 121:17
paulproteusThu August 6, Mountain View, CA: First South Bay Sandstorm meetup! http://www.meetup.com/Sandstorm-SF-Bay-Area/events/223144969/21:18
darthrobot[403] Title: [Attention Required! | CloudFlare]21:18
paulproteushttp://localhost/21:19
paulproteushttp://local.sandstorm.io/21:19
darthrobotTitle: [i has 5 cat]21:19
paulproteusOoh yay I can read localhost this way : P21:19
paulproteusAhem.21:19
paulproteushttp://localhost.uu.net:631/21:19
darthrobotError opening URL: [Errno 111] Connection refused21:19
paulproteusAw, no CUPS.21:19
paulproteusSorry, I'll stop now.21:19
paulproteusAnyway if there are people based in the South Bay, or willing to travel there, who want to learn about how a web app package manager named Sandstorm works & how it could have a big impact on making open source web apps more widely-used, I'd love to see you at this event.21:21
ianorlinor you can use /etc/hosts and then do something like ssh @carne-asada21:22
paulproteushttp://www.bishopfox.com/blog/2015/04/vulnerable-by-design-understanding-server-side-request-forgery/ is what I'm trying to do here, fwiw.21:27
darthrobotTitle: [Vulnerable by Design: Understanding Server-Side Request Forgery - Bishop Fox]21:27
Roguehorse2they are germ pools...I tell ya22:17
Nairwolfhi paulproteus ;)22:30
NairwolfI should be there ;)22:30
paulproteusNairwolf: Awesome! Why the wink? (Have we met before? If so, apologies; I'm forgetting.)22:41
paulproteusOh, are you perhaps the person who just RSVP'd!?22:41
paulproteusIf so, awesome!22:41
paulproteusBTW if there are other Bay Area IRC channels I should ping about this, I'd love to hear.22:42
Nairwolfno, we never met before I think. It's not me who RSVP'd.22:43
NairwolfI'm a new comer in the area. And I'm a beginner developper. I'm learning (but who doesn't learn ?)22:43
paulproteusExciting!22:44
paulproteusI hope you do RSVP!22:44
paulproteusIt'll be great to meet you.22:44
paulproteusWhat's your name? I'm Asheesh, fwiw.22:44
NairwolfI can't do it now, but after the work, I'll do it. There is some restrictions ?22:44
NairwolfFlorian22:44
paulproteusCool22:45
NairwolfAre you used to be in the IRC channel ?22:45
paulproteusI'm in #sandstorm and I've been in this channel for the past couple of months22:47
paulproteusYou're also very welcome to join #sandstorm. (-:22:48
Nairwolfok, thank you ;) I don't know yet what is sandstorm, but I'll see ;)22:49
paulproteusGreat!22:56
paulproteuspleia2: ^ can you think of other Bay Area-ish IRC channels that might care about this event?23:15
paulproteusAlso hi, I hope OSCON etc. is going well, figure you're probably busy with that.23:15
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