[04:10] <Nairwolf> Hi
[04:11] <nhaines> Hi!
[04:11] <Nairwolf> I'm new here, and in California
[04:13] <Nairwolf> I would like to know if there is Ubuntu user meeting near from San Francisco ?
[04:13] <Nairwolf> There are some HackerSpace in the area ?
[04:15] <DonkeyHotei> there is an Ubuntu Hour in sf, and several hackerspaces around, including noisebridge, sudoroom, hackerdojo, and techshop
[04:17] <Nairwolf> Oooh, thank you ;)
[04:18] <Nairwolf> I will look where it is
[04:18] <Nairwolf> I didn't know what is an Ubuntu Hour, thank you ;) That's look nice !
[04:22] <nhaines> Nairwolf: Ubuntu Hour is nice because it's just a quick way to meet people and chat about Ubuntu. :)
[04:23] <Nairwolf> indeed ;)
[04:24] <Nairwolf> when is the next meeting ?
[04:24] <Nairwolf> I saw this page : http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/3099-ubuntu-hour-san-francisco/
[04:24] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu Hour San Francisco | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]
[04:46] <Nairwolf> The next Ubuntu Hour is 9th August ?
[04:56] <nhaines> That sounds right.
[04:56] <Nairwolf> ok, I hope I will not forget it ;)
[04:58] <nhaines> It's a regular event.  :)
[04:58] <Nairwolf> indeed
[05:06] <nhaines> The IRC channel is pretty quiet but you're welcome to idle in here.  And you've already found the mailing list.  :)
[05:08] <Nairwolf> Thank you ;)
[05:09] <Nairwolf> If you have ever gone in another country, it's sometimes difficult to meet other people. As I'm here to learn a lot things (english, but also technical stuff), I think it could be great to meet some techies guy in hackerspace or ubuntu meeting.
[05:11] <nhaines> Yes, I've been to Germany and it's a little tricky at first.  Luckily, the Ubuntu family is worldwide!
[05:11] <Nairwolf> Yes, that's what I think ;)
[05:21] <Nairwolf> Do you contribute to Ubuntu, nhaines ? Or are you an user ?
[05:23] <ianorlin> hi Nairwolf
[05:24] <Nairwolf> hi ianorlin ;) I didn't know that you were here ;)
[05:25] <ianorlin> well mentally it is a bit hard as it too hot and humid
[05:25] <nhaines> Nairwolf: I'm one of the leaders of the California Team, and I am on the LoCo Council, and I sometimes give presentations.  :)
[05:26] <Nairwolf> that's great nhaines ;) So you're a manager guy, that's right ?
[05:26] <ianorlin> hmm I think I may take laptop outside as it isn't as hot
[05:27] <nhaines> Well, I've ended up doing a lot of that.  Mostly I prefer to be a writer and a public speaker.  :)
[05:27] <Nairwolf> I don't feel it's too hot, here.. It's windy, so it's okay for me. I thought it was hotter in California ^^
[05:28] <philipballew> Nairwolf, where in the state do you live?
[05:28] <Nairwolf> okay, that's great also nhaines
[05:28] <Nairwolf> phillipballew : I'm from France. In the south. It's almost the same weather during the summer
[05:29] <philipballew> Nairwolf, are you the person I just emailed?
[05:29] <Nairwolf> In august there is often storms, in the south of France, with rain. I don't know here.
[05:29] <Nairwolf> Yes, it's me
[05:30] <philipballew> Nairwolf, ah, cool, It is raining here currently
[05:30] <ianorlin> althuogh I am close to the beach and don't have air condictigng
[05:31] <Nairwolf> here ? Where are you living ? Here, at Fremont it's not raining
[05:31] <nhaines> We're all in Southern California, although all pretty far from each other at that.  :)
[05:32] <philipballew> nhaines, lake forest is like an hour and a half from san diego id say right?
[05:33] <nhaines> Thereabouts, usually.
[05:33] <philipballew> nhaines, I am in San Diego.
[05:33] <nhaines> I know.  :)
[05:33] <philipballew> shoot, sorry nhaines I meant to type Nairwolf
[05:33] <nhaines> Oh, haha.
[05:33] <philipballew> nhaines,  is actually the only person here cool enough to visit me here.
[05:34] <philipballew> Nairwolf, southern california is worth a trip though.
[05:34] <Nairwolf> San Diego ! California (and America) is so huge...
[05:35] <Nairwolf> Yeah, I would like to do it (trip to southern california), but as I don't have car, and I work during the week. It would be during a week-end
[05:35] <philipballew> Nairwolf, San Diego is massive. it is has parts of the city that are close to 30 miles apart
[05:35] <Nairwolf> Maybe later
[05:35] <ianorlin> Nairwolf: space is biiger
[05:35] <philipballew> Nairwolf, We do have airplanes here
[05:35] <philipballew> Southwest is pretty cheap
[05:35]  * ianorlin has still never been on an airplane
[05:36] <Nairwolf> the flight to go to the south ?
[05:36] <Nairwolf> Yes, I should do it ;)
[05:36] <Nairwolf> Firstly, I have to discover more the SF bay
[05:36] <Nairwolf> It's also so huge
[05:36] <Nairwolf> More than I thought ^^
[05:36] <philipballew> I flew to sacramento not long ago for 80 each way iirc.
[05:36] <philipballew> the bay is pretty big.
[05:37] <philipballew> go to Tahoe, and Yosemite as well.
[05:38] <Nairwolf> Yes, I would like to go to Yosemite
[05:38] <philipballew> Nairwolf, I think greyhound or Amtrack goes there.
[05:38] <Nairwolf> This week I hope meet some rock climber. I hope that someone could pick me up to climb in the Yosemite Park
[05:38] <Nairwolf> what is that ?
[05:39] <ianorlin> not laws ?
[05:39] <philipballew> Nairwolf, grayhound is the bus and amtrack is the train
[05:39] <Nairwolf> ah, bus and train
[05:39] <ianorlin> LA public transportation really does not go to torrance well at all
[05:40] <Nairwolf> I'll see. Next week-end, I should go to Santa Clara
[05:40] <philipballew> If you go to Tahoe, Rano is not really worth to much, but if you are cash strapped, it is a cheap place to stay
[05:40] <philipballew> Nairwolf, go to the redwoods to, and Santa Cruz.
[05:40] <philipballew> also Napa is great
[05:41] <Nairwolf> Ah ah ;) So much place to visit ! That's great !
[05:41] <Nairwolf> I'm noting all of this place ;)
[05:42] <philipballew> Nairwolf, yeah. that seems pretty cool.
[05:42] <nhaines> Nairwolf: well, it's not going anywhere!  Unless it keeps raining and we slide into the sea.
[05:42] <philipballew> nhaines, have you had rain this weekend?
[05:42] <Nairwolf> what are you saying nhaines ?
[05:42] <nhaines> Just Friday and today.  But tons today!
[05:42] <ianorlin> nhaines: yes same
[05:42] <Nairwolf> I will not have time to do geeks stuff ^^
[05:43] <nhaines> But on the bright side you would have lots of time to enjoy the beach.
[05:44] <nhaines> Although Friday's thunderstorm was glorious!
[05:45] <Nairwolf> where are you living nhaines and ianorlin ? If it's not too private..
[05:45] <philipballew> nhaines, The thunder was scary here on the beach
[05:45] <nhaines> Nairwolf: I live in Orange County.  It's hafway between Los Angeles and San Diego.
[05:46] <philipballew> As a San Diego resident, I am taught to hate LA
[05:46] <nhaines> philipballew: at the time I was just waiting for a call from my publisher and reading, so it was kind of nice.
[05:46] <Nairwolf> ok, thank you
[05:46] <Nairwolf> LA and SD don't like themselves ?
[05:46] <philipballew> nhaines, it woke me up at 630 am sadly.
[05:47] <Nairwolf> there is rivalry ?
[05:47] <philipballew> thankfully it stopped by the time I had to get outside to cross the border
[05:47] <philipballew> Nairwolf, not really revelry.
[05:48] <nhaines> Ah, it was closer to 8am hee I think.
[05:48] <philipballew> I think people in southern california are all passionate about their respective cities.
[05:48] <Nairwolf> It's ovious
[05:49] <Nairwolf> it means that there are great cities, if everybody are proud of them ;)
[05:49] <ianorlin> Torrance
[05:49] <philipballew> Nairwolf, Unless you are from Bakersfield amiright!!!
[05:49]  * philipballew lets himself out
[05:50] <ianorlin> which is in LA but southewest
[05:51] <nhaines> There's a lot of diversity everywhere.
[05:51] <nhaines> And best of all, the weather changes every week!
[05:51] <Nairwolf> ianorlin : Also in the south !
[05:52] <Nairwolf> there is nobody in the SF Bay ?
[05:52] <ianorlin> there are they just aren't typing right now
[05:52] <nhaines> There are a few people, but it's late on a Sunday, so many have gone to bed probably.
[05:52] <nhaines> You'll definitely meet some at Ubuntu Hour!
[05:53] <Nairwolf> Yes, I hope ;)
[05:53] <Nairwolf> Do you know meetup ? I didn't know this website. I will try to go to some IT meeting this week. And maybe in the hackerdojo this friday.
[05:53] <Nairwolf> That would be great ;)
[05:54] <nhaines> I know Meetup but I generally hate it. :)
[05:54] <Nairwolf> why ?
[05:54] <nhaines> There's nothing wrong with it.  I just find it a bit messy.
[05:55] <Nairwolf> yes, I have this feeling too
[05:55] <Nairwolf> But I don't know yet, I'll see
[05:55] <Nairwolf> It's not very famous in France
[05:55] <nhaines> Yeah, it's quite popular around here.  If you learn to use it you'll probably find some nice events.  :)
[05:56] <Nairwolf> Yes
[05:56] <Nairwolf> Firstly, I join a several meetup groups. I'll see what they ask and what they organize
[05:56] <Nairwolf> But sometimes it's great to meet non-IT people
[05:57] <nhaines> Yeah, and Meetup is great for that too.
[05:57] <Nairwolf> no, I wanted to say "It's easier". Because, usually, you can meet IT people on IRC, or with mailing-list. But, for non-IT people, they're not used to do that. I'm a climber and I would like to meet some climbers too ;)
[05:58] <nhaines> Oh yes, I understand it's great for that.  :)
[05:58] <nhaines> Have you seen the Ubuntu phone yet?
[05:59] <Nairwolf> no, but that's look really great ;)
[05:59] <Nairwolf> I have a Firefox OS, it's great too, but I think that the Ubuntu phone would be better
[06:02] <nhaines> I only used Firefox OS for about 5 minutes, but Ubuntu really impresses me on phones.  :)
[06:03] <Nairwolf> do you have one ?
[06:04] <Nairwolf> what is great with Firefox OS is it use only web technologies. But there are some advantages and also some defaults.
[06:04] <nhaines> I have a Nexus 5 that's not supported but works great, and also a Nexus 7!
[06:04] <Nairwolf> But, i'm afraid that Mozilla stop the development of Firefox OS
[06:04] <Nairwolf> or it's slower
[06:04] <nhaines> A phone is a lot of work!
[06:04] <Nairwolf> nice ;)
[06:05] <Nairwolf> The bad thing for me is I have a cheap phone, so it's not really fast, and it has a bad camera
[06:05] <Nairwolf> also bad speaker I suppose....
[06:05] <Nairwolf> but that was great for me. I didn't want to spend so much money on a phone
[06:07] <nhaines> Yes, that makes sense too.  :)
[06:07] <nhaines> I'm ready to use my tablet to run desktop applications.
[06:07] <Nairwolf> Yeah, this is really cool !!
[06:08] <ianorlin> I mean convegence will be awesome if you could in a hotel room bed play music on the tv in hotel room from a tablet laying in bed
[06:08] <Nairwolf> but, for the ubuntu phone, there is a specific language to develop apps ? How does it work ?
[06:09] <nhaines> You can use QML and C++, Javascript, or Go.
[06:14] <Nairwolf> ooh
[06:15] <Nairwolf> it's different from Android which you need to use the java api
[06:15] <Nairwolf> do you know this ? https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Main_Page
[06:15] <darthrobot> [403] Title: [Error reading title]
[06:16] <nhaines> I've never heard of it!
[06:19] <Nairwolf> okay, I've seen that on meetup
[06:20] <Nairwolf> okay, thank you guys for your advices ;) I'm leaving. I should spend time here now ;)
[06:20] <Nairwolf> See you soon
[06:20] <nhaines> Haha, it was great to meet you!
[06:21] <nhaines> Take care and see you soon!
[06:21] <Nairwolf> it was great too ;)
[20:12] <Roguehorse2> I wonder if I got sick from one of my students?
[20:47] <Nairwolf> Hi
[20:48] <blitz> probably - children are germ factories
[21:17] <Roguehorse2> it's just irony ... 12 yeaars of remission and I teach one class and have a major relapse...cant help but put 1 + 1
[21:18] <paulproteus> Thu August 6, Mountain View, CA: First South Bay Sandstorm meetup! http://www.meetup.com/Sandstorm-SF-Bay-Area/events/223144969/
[21:18] <darthrobot> [403] Title: [Attention Required! | CloudFlare]
[21:19] <paulproteus> http://localhost/
[21:19] <paulproteus> http://local.sandstorm.io/
[21:19] <darthrobot> Title: [i has 5 cat]
[21:19] <paulproteus> Ooh yay I can read localhost this way : P
[21:19] <paulproteus> Ahem.
[21:19] <paulproteus> http://localhost.uu.net:631/
[21:19] <darthrobot> Error opening URL: [Errno 111] Connection refused
[21:19] <paulproteus> Aw, no CUPS.
[21:19] <paulproteus> Sorry, I'll stop now.
[21:21] <paulproteus> Anyway if there are people based in the South Bay, or willing to travel there, who want to learn about how a web app package manager named Sandstorm works & how it could have a big impact on making open source web apps more widely-used, I'd love to see you at this event.
[21:22] <ianorlin> or you can use /etc/hosts and then do something like ssh @carne-asada
[21:27] <paulproteus> http://www.bishopfox.com/blog/2015/04/vulnerable-by-design-understanding-server-side-request-forgery/ is what I'm trying to do here, fwiw.
[21:27] <darthrobot> Title: [Vulnerable by Design: Understanding Server-Side Request Forgery - Bishop Fox]
[22:17] <Roguehorse2> they are germ pools...I tell ya
[22:30] <Nairwolf> hi paulproteus ;)
[22:30] <Nairwolf> I should be there ;)
[22:41] <paulproteus> Nairwolf: Awesome! Why the wink? (Have we met before? If so, apologies; I'm forgetting.)
[22:41] <paulproteus> Oh, are you perhaps the person who just RSVP'd!?
[22:41] <paulproteus> If so, awesome!
[22:42] <paulproteus> BTW if there are other Bay Area IRC channels I should ping about this, I'd love to hear.
[22:43] <Nairwolf> no, we never met before I think. It's not me who RSVP'd.
[22:43] <Nairwolf> I'm a new comer in the area. And I'm a beginner developper. I'm learning (but who doesn't learn ?)
[22:44] <paulproteus> Exciting!
[22:44] <paulproteus> I hope you do RSVP!
[22:44] <paulproteus> It'll be great to meet you.
[22:44] <paulproteus> What's your name? I'm Asheesh, fwiw.
[22:44] <Nairwolf> I can't do it now, but after the work, I'll do it. There is some restrictions ?
[22:44] <Nairwolf> Florian
[22:45] <paulproteus> Cool
[22:45] <Nairwolf> Are you used to be in the IRC channel ?
[22:47] <paulproteus> I'm in #sandstorm and I've been in this channel for the past couple of months
[22:48] <paulproteus> You're also very welcome to join #sandstorm. (-:
[22:49] <Nairwolf> ok, thank you ;) I don't know yet what is sandstorm, but I'll see ;)
[22:56] <paulproteus> Great!
[23:15] <paulproteus> pleia2: ^ can you think of other Bay Area-ish IRC channels that might care about this event?
[23:15] <paulproteus> Also hi, I hope OSCON etc. is going well, figure you're probably busy with that.
[23:24] <DonkeyHotei> http://localhost/
[23:28] <DonkeyHotei> http://localhost.localdomain/
[23:28] <darthrobot> Error opening URL: [Errno -2] Name or service not known
[23:29] <DonkeyHotei> http://localhost./
[23:30] <DonkeyHotei> http://localhost.ubuntu.com/
[23:30] <darthrobot> Title: [i has 5 cat]