[15:36] <netritious> good morning
[15:49] <bwmaker> Howdy
[15:53] <netritious> hi bwmaker. ok Monday so far?
[15:54] <bwmaker> Yeah, so far, so good. And you?
[15:56] <netritious> four cups of coffee and still feel like I could go back to sleep heh
[15:56] <netritious> if it starts raining I'm in real bad shape
[15:56] <bwmaker> lol
[15:56] <bwmaker> Yeah, I know what you mean. :)
[15:58] <netritious> you use ubuntu bwmaker?
[15:59] <bwmaker> Yup. Had to think for a minute, though. I switched back from Fedora to Ubuntu Gnome and they both practically look the same. :)
[16:00] <bwmaker> Ubuntu Gnome on my work machine, Ubuntu Mate on my home machine, Ubuntu on my web server and Debian on RPi.
[16:00] <netritious> haha nice
[16:01] <netritious> haven't tried ubuntu gnome yet. I'm assuming it's gnome-shell?
[16:01] <bwmaker> I do like Fedora, though. I also like Arch.
[16:01] <bwmaker> Yes, I think so.
[16:02] <bwmaker> netritious: How about you?
[16:03] <netritious> I use ubuntu, debian, centos, pfsense (FreeBSD based) and getting around to openbsd.
[16:06] <bwmaker> The BSDs sounds interesting, but I don't see anything enticing me to use them.
[17:35] <netritious> I became well versed in freebsd back in the day, well before linux was practically everywhere
[17:38] <netritious> a lot of what I liked about freebsd has changed though...seems installing binary packages is the preferred method of adding software now, but I personally prefer the "ports" system and building my packages form source.
[18:00] <bwmaker> netritious: It's looking as if installing software is about to change again. Docker, Ubuntu Snappy Core, CoreOS - if they get their way, everything will be a container. Not sure how I feel about that as a widespread practice, but I believe it can certainly have it's place.
[18:43] <netritious> I'm still undecided about Docker. Anytime I feel like tech is being evangelized I get suspicious.
[19:40] <bwmaker> I tend to agree with that.
[19:42] <bwmaker> It seems people often latch on to the wrong reasons.