[00:00] <cain-pol> shine_, all i can say is swap browsers.
[00:01] <cain-pol> guys how do i change my swappiness
[00:01] <wileee> !swap } should find from here
[00:02] <cain-pol> !swap
[00:02] <wileee> !swap | should find from here
[00:02] <wileee> cain-pol, Are you SSD?
[00:02] <cain-pol> SSD whats tha?
[00:02] <cain-pol> haha
[00:02] <wileee> solid state drive
[00:03] <wileee> I guess no ;)
[00:03] <cain-pol> i may sound dumb, i dont have a clue wa tha is
[00:03] <shine_> Looks like chrome's bookmark manager is not too bad. maybe I will give it a shot again.
[00:03] <wileee> cain-pol, roughly like a flash drive no spinning discs
[00:03] <cain-pol> okay
[00:03] <nicomachus> cain-pol: it's basically a Hard Drive, but instead of a spinning disk it just has a storage board like a flash drive does.
[00:03] <cain-pol> ye okay i got you
[00:03] <nicomachus> wileee: flash drives don't have spinning disks...
[00:04] <cain-pol> nicomachus thats what hes saying...
[00:04] <nicomachus> ah I see I misread
[00:04] <cain-pol> haha
[00:04] <cain-pol> guys whats the command to change my swappiness
[00:05] <shine_> If I were to do a dist upgrade on my ubuntu 14.04 (and I have an efi install), are there any know problems? Ie: stuff breaking? I remember seeing that breakage issue come up a lot throughout the years when people would upgrade through the package manager instead of doing a fresh install.
[00:05] <OerHeks> cain-pol, you did not see the manual ?? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#What_is_swappiness_and_how_do_I_change_it.3F
[00:05] <cain-pol> theirs no commands in that manual
[00:05] <wileee> it's not just one command
[00:05] <OerHeks> cain-pol, oh  you want us to spell it out?
[00:06] <cain-pol> yes please....
[00:06] <OerHeks> cain-pol, i just did, click on the url
[00:06] <cain-pol> okay i will check again..
[00:06] <wileee> schooled
[00:07] <cain-pol> its late for me okay...
[00:07] <cain-pol> i found it
[00:09] <nicomachus> shine_: it's always best to backup first. And if you have a dual-boot, you can expect grub to break. It's an easy fix.
[00:12] <shine_> nicomachus: for sure. no not dual boot, so maybe ok there. Googled a bit and not seeing any issues pop up about anything breaking, per say. I think the breakage that sometimes happens with dist upgrade is highly dependent on the hardware too though. (just a guess).
[00:12] <cain-pol> OerHeks, every time i start my System it come up with System Error Occured?
[00:12] <nicomachus> shine_: sounds about right. The only issue I've ever had is a newer kernel not liking my hardware.
[00:12] <shine_> does one really get the same, identical system with a dist upgrade that they do with a fresh install?
[00:13] <shine_> nicomachus: makes sense. I have an acer lappy (bout a year old). It's been extremely good about running ubuntu.
[00:13] <nicomachus> should be fine
[00:14] <OerHeks> cain-pol, err you wanted to change swapiness, change it back?
[00:14] <wileee> shine_, You are not calling a repo that has 10.04
[00:14] <shine_> And, does anyone know where I can park about 20 Gb for a few hours for free?
[00:14] <cain-pol> i've changed it to 10?
[00:14] <cain-pol> OerHeks. Ive changed it to 10?
[00:15] <nicomachus> shine_: MEGA allows 50gb on a free account.
[00:15] <nicomachus> IIRC
[00:15] <shine_> wileee: I see
[00:15] <shine_> nicomachus: mega.com ?
[00:15] <PrinceProspero> But only 10GB transfer per month?
[00:15] <nicomachus> mega.co.nz
[00:15] <wileee> !eol | shine_ worth reading
[00:15] <PrinceProspero> http://mega.co.nz/
[00:15] <OerHeks> cain-pol, so? i have no clue why you changed it, just gave you a manual.
[00:16] <PrinceProspero> or mega.nz* my bad
[00:16] <nicomachus> PrinceProspero: 10gb transfer/month? really?
[00:16] <cain-pol> OerHeks, dont worry, i've got another problem
[00:16] <shine_> wileee: I understand. Just wasn't aware that 10.04 was eil
[00:16] <shine_> eol
[00:17] <nicomachus> just barely... 3 months.
[00:17] <PrinceProspero> Yes, they had such limit last time I tried uploading something large (few months ago)
[00:17] <shine_> PrinceProspero: nicomachus: got it. thx
[00:17] <nicomachus> PrinceProspero: lame, I didn't know that.
[00:17] <PrinceProspero> Perhaps you could split it up and put to 2 accounts
[00:18] <nicomachus> Looks like Google Drive has no limit, and 50gb on a free account.
[00:18] <shine_> Could anyone supply best way to back up /home/<username>/   where perms are a concern? I recall a time in the past where perms became an issue when trying to restore the backed up folder.
[00:18] <medu> hi
[00:18] <medu> am new he43
[00:19] <medu> am new here
[00:19] <shine_> I think I did a tar geezie that other time.
[00:19] <shine_> tar.gz I mean
[00:19] <wileee> shine_, I would install 14.04 that is a big jump, I would just save what you need.
[00:19] <medu> how do i install qt3 runtime libary
[00:19] <wileee> media....etc
[00:20] <cain-pol> can someone help me, i've installed Itunes 10 but i can Sync my IDevice with it
[00:20] <OerHeks> cain-pol, nobody can, as itunes does not work on linux/wine
[00:20] <shine_> wileee: 14.04 is what I have now
[00:21] <wileee> shine_, you said 10.04 and had multiple posts answering you.
[00:21] <Logan> medu: why do you need QT3?
[00:22] <medu> for my broadband modem
[00:22] <cain-pol> cant*
[00:23] <Logan> medu: I don't see why your modem would require Qt in the first place
[00:23] <wileee> shine_, "wilee, that's another issue. I have the efi install of ubuntu 10:04. So I have the low disk space issue in boot and that is a big mess." We have to be on the same page is all,
[00:23] <medu> Logan: the installation process requires it to install
[00:24] <Logan> medu: do you have a link?
[00:24] <nicomachus> shine_: if you have low disk space in /boot you need to delete some old kernels.
[00:24] <xangua> medu: What installation proccess¿
[00:24] <cain-pol> thanks for the help
[00:24] <cain-pol> ....
[00:25] <medu> Logan: it is a ZTE modem installation
[00:25] <medu> xangua: is a ZTE modem
[00:26] <shine_> What I'm thinking is this ... Since I have the issue of /boot being too small, maybe a fresh install of the newest ubu is the best idea. I can jump into the partitioner and ensure that there isn't anything too small. If I do that though. I'm going to want to just back up /home/* (which only contains me/my user dir) - rather than fiddle around cherry picking content to back up.  The thing is this though - once, in the past, I backed up my
[00:26] <shine_> entire home dir. I did it by packing it into a tar.gz and burning it to a disc. When I went to restore the dir on the new install later, there was a perms issue that was a real pain to get around (ate up hours dealing with it). That's the one thing I'd like to avoid this time. So I wonder the proper command that will allow me to circumvent all that perms bs this time?? (fwiw, I also have encryption on this current install).
[00:26] <shine_> wileee: ^ (and/or whoever)
[00:27] <wileee> I applaud you upgrading ;)
[00:27] <cain-pol> hey
[00:28] <Logan> medu: yes, but what installation process is telling you to install Qt 3?
[00:28] <Logan> you shouldn't need that to configure your modem properly
[00:28] <shine_> wileee: It is a bit exciting (I agree). I'm just lazy I guess. I'd rather use the system (basically forever) that deal wtih stuff like this. Problem is I love ubu and wouldn't want a debian (or any other) distro.
[00:29] <medu> Logan: when i type ./install.sh
[00:29] <shine_> suppose I'll google around about my little questions. I'm at least capable of that ;)
[00:30] <wileee> shine_, Ubuntu was my first OS, tried all the big ones, pretty much only small differences, but I like ubuntu the best, it's basically plug and play.
[00:30] <wileee> for me any way
[00:30] <shine_> wileee: same here. I've tried about half a dozen others but always come back to my first love.
[00:31] <Logan> medu: ok, don't use the software that came with the modem
[00:32] <Logan> medu: try installing usb-modeswitch, and see if that makes your modem work properly
[00:32] <shine_> I think ubuntu is the least hassle nix you're gonna get. Debain maybe not too bad, but I don't think the debian crowd is as compassionate as ubuntu's where support is concerned.
[00:32] <medu> ok
[00:32] <medu> Logan: thanks
[00:32] <shine_> Anyway ... guess I'll get to it
[00:33] <medu> Logan: i really appreciate
[00:33] <Logan> no problem!
[00:33] <wileee> shine_, I think this is one of the best support channels  as well, a handful of hard core knowledge people are here 24/7 and others stop by.
[00:33] <wileee> not me I just know whom they are lol
[00:34] <nicomachus> there's like 5-10 guys on here that have saved my ass on dozens of occasions.
[00:37] <cain-pol> i need help guys
[00:38] <ObrienDave> you won't get help unless you ask the REAL question
[00:39] <cain-pol> haha, i've recently installed Itunes 10 but i cant Sync my Apple devices
[00:39] <OerHeks> cain-pol, nobody can, as itunes does not work on linux/wine ... tried playonlinux?
[00:39] <OerHeks> or check the wineHQ database
[00:39] <shine_> wileee: yup. heh. peace out for a bit man. gonna go for it.
[00:40] <ObrienDave> !itunes
[00:40] <cain-pol> OerHeks, wa do you mean have i tried play on linux?
[00:40] <cain-pol> !itunes
[00:40] <ObrienDave> *face palms*
[00:40] <OerHeks> !wine
[00:40] <cain-pol> yep....
[00:41] <OerHeks> only itunes can help you.
[00:41] <cain-pol> !virtualizers
[00:41] <cain-pol> !virtualbox
[00:42] <ObrienDave> bot abuse ;P
[00:43] <shine_> uhh, are you guys sure about the eol on 14.04? Why does the official ubuntu download page : http://www.ubuntu.com/download  still recommend 14.04 ?
[00:43] <wileee> and not intelligent enough to complain
[00:43] <wileee> shine_, 10.04
[00:44] <shine_> wileee: check the link brother
[00:44] <wileee> shine_, 10.04 is the eol
[00:44] <OerHeks> shine, check your history
[00:44] <shine_> I see 14.04.2 being recommended "for most users" and it is the default download atm
[00:45] <shine_> well, guess there was a miscommunication. Hope It wasn't me typing it out wrong. I am on 14.04 now
[00:45] <ObrienDave> shine_, 14.04 is a LTS version. 5 years for Ubuntu, 3 years for Xubuntu
[00:45] <wileee> shine_, I quoted you and multiple posts by others. ;)
[00:45] <shine_> I haven't had 10.04 since about 2003
[00:45] <shine_> iirc
[00:45] <wileee> no biggie
[00:46] <shine_> lol
[00:46] <wileee> for the record lol "shine_> wilee, that's another issue. I have the efi install of ubuntu 10:04. So I have the low disk space issue in boot and that is a big mess."
[00:46] <shine_> so, back to square one I guess. But, considering that this is a lvm install as well, I wonder if I can just resize my measly little /boot partition
[00:47] <wileee> shine_, This uefi or msdos
[00:47] <shine_> wileee: err, I'd have to check
[00:47] <ObrienDave> *if you ignore trolls, do they eventually go away?*
[00:47] <wileee> shine_, cool, others better at this just curious.
[00:48] <shine_> wileee: I see 2 lines in the output of mount that may be relevant. Not sure which of them to focus on though
[00:49] <shine_> /dev/sda2 on /boot type ext2 (rw)
[00:49] <shine_> /dev/sda1 on /boot/efi type vfat (rw)
[00:49] <shine_> vfat I guess :s
[00:49] <wileee> shine_, run two commands and look, pastbu=in them if needed   sudo parted -l   than    sudo fdisk -l
[00:50] <wileee> ah I see efi
[00:51] <shine_> kk
[00:51] <wileee> shine_, lvm and uefi are way beyond me really helping is all.
[00:52] <OerHeks> !nick | papule
[00:52] <shine_> wileee: looks like it's fat32 (vfat)
[00:52] <shine_> np
[00:52] <papule> where would i go if i need help with peerguardian
[00:52] <wileee> shine_, thats not related exactly, it would be the partition table
[00:52] <shine_> I can get into it at a later day. Truth is, I'm kinda out of time for today on this project
[00:53] <shine_> peace out man
[00:53] <wileee> cool same
[00:54] <OerHeks> papule, just ask, i see SF is still down http://sourceforge.net/p/peerguardian/wiki/pgl-Install-DebianUbuntu/
[00:55] <papule> k so i am super new to linux (i just installed ubuntu on like 3 days ago) and i somehow managed to install peerguardian but when i go to update my blocklists it gives me this error:
[00:55] <papule> Could not use either kdesu(do) or gksu(do) to execute the command requested. You can set the path of the one you prefer in "Options - Settings - Sudo front-end"
[00:56] <papule> i have no idea what it means or what to do
[00:56] <EriC^^> it means you need gksu to run it
[00:56] <papule> how do i get that
[00:56] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install gksu
[00:57] <papule> k what do i do now that i have gksu?
[00:57] <EriC^^> run it like you were
[00:58] <papule> i got the error again
[00:58] <EriC^^> go to options settings > sudo front-end
[00:59] <papule> k
[00:59] <EriC^^> type /usr/bin/gksu
[01:00] <papule> omg thanks so much i have literally spent all day looking for a linux alternative for peerblock.
[01:00] <EriC^^> no problem
[01:00] <papule> what exactly is gksu and why does peerguardian need it?
[01:00] <EriC^^> it lets you run gui apps with privileges
[01:02] <EriC^^> it must need to access some net stuff and needs root i guess
[01:02] <EriC^^> what is peerguardian anyways?
[01:03] <papule> its so the government or comcast or whoever can't see that i'm downloading movies illegally.
[01:03] <EriC^^> doesn't it slow down the connection?
[01:04] <papule> idk. all i care is that i'm not getting emails from my isp about it.
[01:05] <papule> how do i register this nick?
[01:05] <EriC^^> /nickserv register <password> <email>
[01:06] <ObrienDave> papule, do it in the server window. not a channel window
[01:06] <tausend> got it
[01:08] <tausend> how do i view a channel list? i'm using xchat
[01:09] <OerHeks> tausend, top panel, server, 'list of ... '
[01:09] <ObrienDave> under server, list of channels. but this is Ubuntu support, not Xchat
[01:09] <OerHeks> xchat is no longer under development, btw, use HExchat as its clone
[01:10] <EriC^^> that's just cause xchat is perfect :P
[01:10] <tausend> k thanks for the advice
[01:10] <ObrienDave> SMh
[01:11] <nicomachus> EriC^^: Even the strongest castle crumbles if no stone masons are there to tend the cracks.
[01:11] <tausend> what's the best irc program on ubuntu? i literally just picked the first one.
[01:11] <ObrienDave> !best
[01:12] <adriot_machine> xchat is a light weight program
[01:12] <ObrienDave> there is no "best" try several
[01:12] <ObrienDave> decide for yourself
[01:13] <EriC^^> nicomachus: civil engineering has advanced a lot
[01:13] <ObrienDave> tausend, Xchat is Ubuntu default. HexChat is a maintained clone. some like other clients
[01:13] <nicomachus> lol
[01:13] <EriC^^> :P :D
[01:13] <tausend> thank u
[01:14] <nicomachus> in the big picture, we're still in the stone age of computer tech.
[01:15] <ObrienDave> so you say, i remember when computers took up whole rooms
[01:15] <tausend> how old are you ObrienDave?
[01:15] <ObrienDave> 58
[01:15] <tausend> cool.
[01:16] <adriot_machine> eniac?
[01:16] <ObrienDave> IBM 360 Mod 20
[01:16] <ObrienDave> 1974
[01:16] <adriot_machine> 1970 the age of microprocessors
[01:16] <ObrienDave> eniac was a BIT before my time ;P
[01:16] <tausend> so you've been with it since the beginning, haven't you?
[01:17] <adriot_machine> eniac=1950s
[01:17] <ObrienDave> the PC revolution, yes :)
[01:18] <tausend> how would i change my icon pack on ubuntu?
[01:18] <adriot_machine> open ubuntu software center search for launcher tweaks
[01:20] <tausend> unity tweak tool?
[01:21] <EriC^^> !themes
[01:21] <tausend> thx
[01:22] <EriC^^> np
[01:23] <nicomachus> ObrienDave: this is a bit off-topic but things are slow at the moment. when did you start with gnu/linux?
[01:24] <ObrienDave> about 3 or 4 years ago. not very good at most linux stuff. my best subjects are serial communications and disk partitioning
[01:25] <ObrienDave> i've been playing with PCs since the early 80s
[01:32] <histo> !best | tausend
[01:39] <en1gma> got some big questions about ubuntu 14.04 (freshly installed on my I7 4770k (cpu-gpu)). which opencl runtime do we use with it
[01:39] <en1gma> is it already installed by default
[01:42] <shine_> When I do : dpkg -l | grep linux-image-     I see several kernels listed with the word "extra" in the name. What are these?
[01:43] <Ben64> extra kernel modules
[01:44] <shine_> Well, does the system rely on them? In other words, if I delete them, will my system still boot? I ask bc. I see two in the list with the same version number (one has "extra" in the name and the other doesn't).
[01:44] <Eunkai> does anyone know why notify-send doesn't work for Virvet (15.04)?
[01:44] <Ben64> shine_: don't remove them
[01:45] <Eunkai> unless you send it with an urgent tag
[01:45] <Ben64> shine_: in fact, you probably shouldn't be trying to remove system packages at all
[01:46] <Eunkai> for example, the command `notify-send -u normal "IRSSI" "This is a sample IRC notification"` displays nothing
[01:46] <Eunkai> but `notify-send -u critical "IRSSI" "This is a sample IRC notification"` sends it just fine
[01:46] <shine_> Ben64: Well, I have a problem. You see, I have the 14.04 efi default install (the one where boot was not made big enough by default). This prevents me from getting updates. The simplest soln, as I understand it, is to remove some old kernels - (and simple is what I need atm)
[01:47] <shine_> prevents me from getting updates once the space gets over-run with kernels that is
[01:48] <hinv> !update
[01:48] <Ben64> shine_: remove old kernels yes, including old extras, don't remove current ones
[01:51] <en1gma> i just did a complete install of 14.04 to find out it takes 14.10 to use intel latest driver.
[01:51] <en1gma> is this true
[01:51] <en1gma> maybe i should just do 15.04?
[01:52] <Ben64> if you want the newest sure
[01:52] <en1gma> well if 14.04 can not upgrade to it
[01:52] <Ben64> just keep in mind you'll need to upgrade every 6 months
[01:52] <en1gma> ah crap. what to do
[01:53] <hobbet1> isnt it every 9 months now Ben64?
[01:53] <en1gma> its close
[01:53] <Ben64> its supported for 9 months, but you can't wait 9 months for each one
[01:53] <wileee> en1gma, What does the latest intel do for you?
[01:53] <hobbet1> thank yo
[01:53] <hobbet1> you
[01:54] <en1gma> well it gives a new graphics driver so i would think that would be a good thing as thats what ive done with amd and nvidia for years now
[01:55] <wileee> en1gma, If you continuously follow the latest your gonna have issues.
[01:55] <wileee> under that auspice
[01:56] <kika> oi
[01:56] <en1gma> under these circumstance i think i have to since this opencl driver needs updated as its constantly evolving
[01:57] <en1gma> what is different in 14.10 then 14.04 where i cant update to the newest
[01:57] <wileee> be sure you check 14.10's eol date
[01:57] <Ben64> you should either stick with 14.04 or install 15.04, 14.10 is losing soon
[01:58] <Ben64> losing support soon*
[01:58] <en1gma> checking dates now. looks like 14.10 came out oct 23
[01:58] <Ben64> 14.10 is EOL this Thursday
[01:59] <en1gma> :)
[01:59] <en1gma> well it looks like 15.04 then
[01:59] <shine_> I don't understand something here. I do : dpkg -l | grep linux-image-     and one of the older kernels in the list happens to be "linux-image-3.13.0-45-generic". I then do : sudo apt-get autoremove linux-image-3.13.0-45-generic     which output reads, in a nutshell, as if the kernel is deleted, then, when the grub config file is updated "linux-image-3.13.0-45-generic" get's "found"; and, in the end, I do dpkg -l | grep linux-image-
[01:59] <shine_> again and "dpkg -l | grep linux-image-" appears at the top of the list again. What gives!
[01:59] <en1gma> okie brb. i think i did at least 10 installs today
[01:59] <Ben64> shine_: pastebin it
[01:59] <en1gma> crap. not sure what i want to do
[01:59] <shine_> k
[01:59] <en1gma> checking packages
[02:01] <en1gma> oh crap. it not a package. i think its a kernel module
[02:01] <en1gma> maybe i can just update my kernel
[02:02] <Ben64> 14.04 does support HWE, which enables you to get later ubuntu's kernels
[02:02] <wileee> en1gma, I have 4,2 running in 14.04.2 however if I have problems I'm not supported here.
[02:02] <en1gma> O_o
[02:02] <shine_> Ben64: Well, now apt-get says it's not installed. However, as one can see, it is still appearing in the list using the dpkg command. http://paste.ubuntu.com/11907154/
[02:02] <en1gma> it looks like installer only supports 14.10
[02:03] <en1gma> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intel-graphics-installer-linux-1.1.0
[02:03] <Ben64> shine_: which one are you referring to
[02:03] <Ben64> en1gma: the intel graphics driver is built into the kernel, you shouldn't need to use that
[02:04] <en1gma> Graphics Installer 1.1.0 for Ubuntu* 14.10, 64-bit
[02:04] <shine_> *-45-generic (specifically, *45.74). And, apparently I didn't form my command correctly as not everything I had intended is showing up in pastebin. I did dpkg -l | grep linux-image- && sudo apt-get autoremove linux-image-3.13.0-45-generic && dpkg -l | grep linux-image- | pastebinit
[02:04] <wileee> en1gma, If that was a good source they would have 15.04 as well there it's been out awhile
[02:05] <en1gma> i want to see if i can run some opencl apps
[02:05] <boo> how to repair my mounting permission i just restore my backup ftom tar :(
[02:05] <en1gma> i wonder if 15.04 is what i should be doing
[02:05] <wileee> boo, fstab
[02:05] <Ben64> shine_: the rc at the beginning means it is just residual configuration left, its not installed anymore
[02:06] <wileee> boo, Ah, permissions, would be different, never mind.
[02:06] <boo> wileee, command not found
[02:06] <wileee> boo, fstab is a config file.
[02:06] <wileee> and not correct
[02:06] <en1gma> since 14.10 is going to be EOL thursday what is going to be replacing it?
[02:06] <en1gma> is it 15.10 and 14.04.2?
[02:06] <shine_> Ben64: Ahh, I see it! Thx
[02:06] <Ben64> 15.04 is already out
[02:06] <boo> ohhh i'm not that geeki will u help me little :D
[02:07] <en1gma> lemme check my iso's. maybe i have it already
[02:07] <Ben64> there is a 3 month overlap from when the new version comes out and the old one goes EOL
[02:07] <wileee> !details | boo to the best you can
[02:07] <Ben64> excepting LTS releases of course
[02:08] <shine_> Ben64: For future ref, what would have been the correct syntax for that command I tried to do? What I thought was gonna happen was the output from all 3 of the commands be pasted. In actuality, only the first command was pasted.
[02:08] <en1gma> i got 15.04 not sure if i tried that one
[02:09] <Ben64> shine_: eh that can get tricky
[02:09] <wileee> balmy 95.5 F here slight wind
[02:09] <shine_> ohh. kk. thanks man
[02:10] <d3lt40n3_> have you encountered "failed to install bootloader" when making an installer for Ubuntu 64 Bit in the Startup Disk Creator?
[02:10] <boo> dear wileee , i just restore my partition from my pen-drive to my original system ok, so problem now i am facing is my partition are not mounting for somehow. i wish i can do something that they would mount after every start without gksudo root
[02:12] <wileee> boo, Ah, sounds like fstab that is where the computer looks to mount at boot. pastebin 'gksudo gedit /etc/fstab' with your info
[02:12] <wileee> boo, WE can do this from a terminal on the install if you can get there or live with that command
[02:12] <tgm4883> When using prime, is it possible to see which card is being used for a particular program?
[02:13] <boo> yes general, i can do it from terminal hahahhaha
[02:13] <wileee> !pastebinit | boo that command using this
[02:13] <boo> now gksudo not install :(
[02:13] <boo> any alternative plz
[02:14] <wileee> boo, sorry not correct, hold on
[02:14] <en1gma> 'sudo lshw -C display' = "version: 06"   is that my current driver? intel 1.06?
[02:15] <en1gma> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intelr-graphics-installer-1.0.6-linux
[02:15] <wileee> boo, Actually I'm not sure how to get that to pastebinit, I used to the gui, I think we both need help.
[02:16] <wileee> I'm*
[02:16] <boo> hahahahahaha
[02:16] <OerHeks> en1gma, that intel ppa is know for giving issues on ubuntu. amd is not supported here
[02:16] <OerHeks> and*
[02:17] <boo> dear wileee, there's a button "prt sc" use it to save image and show me plz
[02:17] <en1gma> it is the one that comes with 14.04 so i hope its supported here
[02:18] <OerHeks> en1gma, no, it does not. you read version:06, sure it is stock intel driver
[02:18] <wileee> boo, show you?
[02:18] <OerHeks> en1gma, and *if your really* need an updated driver, use xorg edgers ppa.
[02:19] <en1gma> OerHeks so is the link i provided about the 1.06 driver the same one that comes with ubuntu 14.04 but compiled in?
[02:19] <boo> yup ur image with results hahhahaha general '(..)'
[02:19] <Ben64> en1gma: the version you see there in lshw is not your driver
[02:19] <en1gma> ahh ok
[02:19] <wileee> boo, There are a couple of red flags in your description that I have no clue about, lets get better help. ;)
[02:19] <en1gma> how do i find my current driver in use
[02:19] <en1gma> driver version i mean
[02:20] <en1gma> modinfo i915 dont show it
[02:20] <OerHeks> lshw -c video
[02:20] <en1gma> thats the command i used to get the version 06 you seen
[02:20] <boo> ok :)
[02:20] <boo> but how?
[02:21] <Ben64> are you sure en1gma it shows a lot of info when i do that
[02:21] <en1gma> mine does too but only one area for version
[02:21] <wileee> boo, Just pop a cold one post your issue as needed till you get a response. ;)
[02:22] <en1gma> http://pastebin.com/w6HuDbTq  my 'sudo lshw -c video' output
[02:22] <boo> what \('0')/ :'(
[02:22] <boo> plz dont joke
[02:22] <wileee> free volunteer help that is how it goes
[02:23] <Ben64> en1gma: do you actually have a problem with it
[02:23] <boo> i want to listen my lecture but my drive not mounting :(
[02:23] <en1gma> im about ready to try and start to compile so opencl stuff and want to nip it in the bud
[02:24] <en1gma> dont want to start on something that is bad. looks like there are a few versions (updates) of that intel driver that 14.04 cant do
[02:24] <en1gma> so = some
[02:25] <shine_> Is cron the default package for ubuntu 14.04?
[02:25] <OerHeks> en1gma, that intel is not a hightech racemonster, so i guess you will need a better videocard for your goal
[02:25] <Ben64> !info cron trusty | shine_
[02:26] <boo> general are you there :(
[02:26] <en1gma> OerHeks thats what i thought. i was in windows with my 9600gt and of course the intel cpu-gpu and these are my benchmarks of an opencl test called luxmark. 1 sec and ill pastebin it
[02:26] <shine_> Ben64:  I know what it does (generally speaking) Just not sure whether it's what 14.04 uses by default these days or not
[02:26] <Ben64> shine_: you see where it says "is important" ?
[02:27] <en1gma> http://pastebin.com/M5hwFMDd
[02:27] <en1gma> if you look at the 9600gt (by itself its almost 500) now look at the rest.
[02:27] <shine_> Ben64: Yeah. Ok, I guess that's close enuf. thx
[02:27] <en1gma> this is the 4th gen intel hd 4600. the new iris just came out and it destroys this.
[02:28] <en1gma> i think opencl stuff on cpu-gpu is gonna rules
[02:29] <en1gma> the intel 4600hd is about 5x faster then a 9600gt which actually puts it up there in a good area of gpu computing. now the iris 6200 is gonna smoke this
[02:29] <Ben64> 9600gt is ancient and slow though
[02:30] <shine_> Ok, so. I would like to create a cron job or a properly placed script (whichever is better) but I don't have the skill to do it and I just can't afford the time to learn it right now. I believe this would solve the low disk space issue for everyone who did a default efi install of 14.04 (so it's not just me it would help). Is anyone willing to entertain a small project like this?
[02:30] <en1gma> the benchmarks i took show that
[02:30] <en1gma> the intel hd 4600 is 5x faster
[02:30] <Ben64> so 5x ancient and slow isn't impressive
[02:30] <en1gma> yea but i thinking about getting a 5th gen I7 with that 6200 iris
[02:30] <en1gma> then it not slow anymore
[02:30] <en1gma> all under a nice little h100i cooler
[02:31] <shine_> or, where is a better place to ask for such a thing?
[02:32] <en1gma> you know i play BF4 in 720P with 50resolution scale and fps are above 60. thats with my current cpu-gpu. that iris 6200 is more then 2x faster
[02:32] <en1gma> i think i could play 1080p low settings
[02:32] <shine_> I know what the program logic ought to be, just don't know bash scripting
[02:33] <Ben64> shine_: a simple "sudo apt-get autoremove" will remove old kernels
[02:33] <shine_> ok, so Ben64 is out
[02:33] <OerHeks> shine_, normally one removes old kernels to get diskspace back
[02:33] <antonio_> I'm looking for a way to split up a long mp3 (entire music album) into smaller tracks automatically.  Is this possible?
[02:33] <en1gma> how do i get the version of the driver i actually using for that intel i915
[02:34] <shine_> OerHeks: I understand. Just that I get tired of manually running the command (and that, particular, install is an issue for a lot of people) - I think
[02:35] <OerHeks> en1gma, check synaptic for xserver-xorg-video-intel
[02:35] <OerHeks> i see 2:2.99.917-1~exp1ubuntu2.2 in Vivid
[02:36] <wileee> cough ubuntu tweak
[02:36] <shine_> If only there were a small script, that only ran when a new kernel was about to be installed, and it deleted all but the new one that get's installed and the one prior to it (leaving a grand totatl of 2 kernals at any time). It would have to run after the new kernel was completely installed though.
[02:36] <OerHeks> gezundheit wileee
[02:36] <wileee> ;)
[02:36] <en1gma> OerHeks checking. 1sec
[02:37] <en1gma> OerHeks 2.20.9
[02:37] <Ben64> so instead of running "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ... "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove"
[02:37] <shine_> right on
[02:38] <OerHeks> en1gma, he xorg edgers has 2:2.99.917+git20150708.e5c6e48c-0ubuntu0sarvatt~trusty for 14.04
[02:38] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=trusty
[02:38] <en1gma> O_o i was just about ready to reboot to windows and install that 15.04
[02:38] <en1gma> you prob just saved me alot of time
[02:39] <ObrienDave> and headaches
[02:39] <en1gma> no doubt. thanks much
[02:39] <en1gma> adding it to sources
[02:39] <en1gma> does that driver (built-in) i915 have opencl enabled?
[02:40] <en1gma> i mean if i get an opencl app will it run without installing anything or do i need to get opencl libs?
[02:40] <en1gma> i read the amd ide will work for compiling on the intel so i think they kept it true to opencl standards
[02:41] <en1gma> my goal believe it or not is get pyrit working on the cpu-gpu
[02:41] <en1gma> :)
[02:42] <en1gma> wait. i gonna install pyrit and see what happens with pyrit list_cores
[02:44] <Guest76535> hello! I am getting error while executing c++ program using opencvlibrary
[02:45] <Guest76535> can you please help me
[02:45] <Guest76535>  its segmentation error
[02:45] <Guest76535> and QXcbShmImage: shmget() failed (22) for size 40449024 (2736x3696)
[02:46] <streetfi8er> hi all...i recently upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04..however the login screen freezes..my system does not have any nvidia card..i've reinstalling ubuntu-desktop and unity but not working
[02:47] <Poca> Guest76535, I can't help you with that
[02:47] <antonio_> I'm looking for a way to split up a long mp3 (entire music album) into smaller tracks automatically.  Is this possible?
[02:47] <Poca> but you need to give much more details aabout it
[02:48] <wileee> streetfi8er, Is there any drivers showing, in additional drivers tab, in software & sources
[02:50] <HoloIRCUser1> sorry if i missed anything
[02:51] <wileee> just Elvis
[02:52] <OerHeks> antonio_, you can, with mp3splt and audacity, manually
[02:52] <maestro_> hey all
[02:52] <OerHeks> !info mp3splt
[02:53] <maestro_> hope all is well :)
[02:53] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/27574/how-can-i-split-a-mp3-file
[02:53] <en1gma> ok wait. since the intel driver is part of the kernel (built-in) i should be able to boot ubuntu live usb (14.10, 15.04 and 15.10) and the intel graphics driver i wont have to do anything like compile
[02:54] <en1gma> wholly cow. nvidia and amd couldnt do that and intel does?
[02:55] <maestro_> was just thinking how awesome it would be to have a "ubuntu tablet" to complement the smartphone and desktop
[02:55] <maestro_> is one in the making? i hope so
[02:56] <en1gma> bbiam
[02:56] <Guest76535> hello there, while running c++ code using opencv libraries , I'm getting this error.
[02:56] <Guest76535>  QXcbShmImage: shmget() failed (22) for size 40449024 (2736x3696
[02:56] <OerHeks> maestro_, no news about that, you might want to reask in #ubuntu-touch
[02:56] <Guest76535> can you please help
[02:57] <cfhowlett> Guest76535, sounds like a C++ error best discussed with #c++
[02:57] <maestro_> oerheks, ohk thanks for that
[02:59] <Guest76535> ok thank you
[02:59] <Guest76535> #c++
[03:21] <YellowGTO> Isn't python install be default with Ubuntu Server?
[03:22] <YellowGTO> The program 'python' can be found in the following packages:
[03:22] <YellowGTO>  But when I try to install python I get python3 is already the newest version
[03:27] <cfhowlett> YellowGTO, so what is the problem then?
[03:27] <wafflej0ck> YellowGTO, if you try to just run python --version, what do you get?
[03:28] <YellowGTO> The program 'python' can be found in the following packages:
[03:28] <cfhowlett> !info | YellowGTO
[03:29] <cfhowlett> !info python | YellowGTO
[03:30] <YellowGTO> Thanks, but why is it saying python is not installed
[03:30] <YellowGTO> And then when I try to install it, it says it is installed
[03:30] <wafflej0ck> YellowGTO, what is saying that?
[03:30] <cfhowlett> YellowGTO, "optional" = not installed by default
[03:31] <YellowGTO> apt-get install python3 is correct right?
[03:32] <wafflej0ck> YellowGTO, Python 3 and Python 2 will be different but believe it's safe to have both installed
[03:32]  * ObrienDave has both installed
[03:33] <YellowGTO> When I run sudo apt-get install python3, it tells me python is installed. When I go to launch it, it tells me to get pyhton from the 2 packages
[03:34] <wafflej0ck> the regular python package is the one listed above for python 2 python3 will get you 3.4.0
[03:34] <wafflej0ck> YellowGTO, if you try to run python --version it tells you to install it?
[03:34] <YellowGTO> The program 'python' can be found in the following packages:
[03:34] <YellowGTO>  * python-minimal
[03:34] <YellowGTO>  * python3
[03:34] <YellowGTO> Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
[03:35] <Ben64> try running "python3"
[03:35] <YellowGTO> http://pastebin.com/3xsewyfg
[03:35] <YellowGTO> Ah
[03:36] <YellowGTO> python3 gives me a version
[03:36] <ObrienDave> or python2
[03:36] <wafflej0ck> ah is regular python (version 2.x) no longer in vivid? I see it in trusty repos
[03:36] <wafflej0ck> er just binary renamed?
[03:37] <Ben64> !info python
[03:37] <Ben64> 2.7.9-1
[03:37] <wafflej0ck> wonder why it isn't suggesting he just install python itself then?
[03:37] <wafflej0ck> why phython-minimal or 3?
[03:37] <Auctus> can i open a terminal in th open directory from the gui file manager somehow?
[03:37] <YellowGTO> !info: event not found
[03:38] <Ben64> the suggestion thingy isn't the best
[03:38] <wafflej0ck> Auctus, yeah are you using regular ubuntu?
[03:38] <ObrienDave> factoid errors??? say it isn't so ;P
[03:38] <wafflej0ck> Auctus, http://askubuntu.com/questions/207442/how-to-add-open-terminal-here-to-nautilus-context-menu
[03:41] <Auctus> wafflej0ck: neat, thanks
[03:43] <wafflej0ck> Auctus, yup np personally have become a big fan of guake and similar things for having a terminal ready to use with 1 key but hidden away most of the time
[03:45] <wafflej0ck> does 16.04 have a tentative name yet? will have to be an X right? hopefully that's a cool one :)
[03:51] <ObrienDave> apparently not, i thought it did :S
[03:54] <wafflej0ck> will there be wayland in 16.04?
[03:54] <wafflej0ck> will be strange if they move on from X in the X version :O
[03:58] <whoareyou_> vhost
[03:58] <the0> anybody here who knows anything about packetsniffing ?
[04:00] <ObrienDave> that would be a no and if we told you we'd have to kill you ;P
[04:01] <the0> xD
[04:03] <whoareyou_> how does one change their vhost?
[04:04] <Ben64> ask in #freenode
[04:04] <whoareyou_> thankyou
[04:22] <YellowGTO> Can anyone give me a good resource on making a init.d script every thread I read is confusing me lol
[04:30] <anlashok> bazhang 是个婊子生的
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[04:31] <cfhowlett> !cn | anlashok
[04:32] <ravi__kumar> I'm seeing characters which probably should not be there on login shell. Anyone got idea to fix this..
[04:33] <euglp> whats up
[04:34] <OerHeks> euglp whatsapp ?
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> ravi__kumar: might be usefull to imgur the link to us
[04:35] <ravi__kumar> lotuspsychje: well, actually I don't know how to capture snapshot while in tty1..6
[04:37] <Clooer> alguem ai sabe como resolver
[04:37] <Clooer> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[04:37] <Clooer>  W: Você terá que executar apt-get update para corrigir estes problemas
[04:37] <Clooer> no sources.list não acho nada sobre google e nem chrome
[04:37] <Clooer> e não consigo deletar o arquivo do apt/list
[04:37] <Clooer> rodo o comando sudo rm * e rm -f e quando roda update mesmo erro
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> !br | Clooer
[04:39] <mikubuntu> can't seem to get firefox to play flash vids --- video fram says adobe flash needs updating, but when i try to download (selecting APT for ubuntu), it asks me what application i want to launch. when i select APTUrl, it says it doesnt recognize trusty-partner
[04:39] <wileee> mike try a sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:40] <cfhowlett> mikubuntu, terminal time:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y will get you going
[04:40] <mikubuntu> cfhowlett: ty, i'll try that :P
[04:40] <N3X15> Network-Manager isn't starting on startup and sudo systemctl enable network-manager reports "No such file or directory"
[04:41] <ravi__kumar> lotuspsychje: are you there ?
[04:42] <ravi__kumar> how can i send/link files to while using irc
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> ravi__kumar: sure ill take a look
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> ravi__kumar: rightmose my nick/dcc send
[04:43] <mikubuntu> cfhowlett: i was only having the problem with ff and not chrome but i see in the term its editing chrome file also. not that it matters if i get it going, but is there some quirky reason it stopped working in the first place?
[04:44] <cfhowlett> mikubuntu, ffox + flash is going the way of the dodo ... slowly.  a recent patch was added to flash to fix a ffox vulnerability.  problem was not seen in chrome, so chrome continues to work.
[04:46] <OerHeks>  N3X15 i think you want sudo systemctl restart network.service
[04:46] <OerHeks> or start
[04:46] <OerHeks> or enable
[04:46] <mikubuntu> cfhowlett: thx -- i use ff infrequently, so i guess everyone else fixed this long time ago. do we know what the future of ff flash experience is going to be?
[04:47] <OerHeks> flash is dead
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: html5 for the future
[04:47] <cfhowlett> mikubuntu, consider: system 76 has removed flash from their repos.  flash is dying a slow death.  look to the future: html5+
[04:47] <N3X15> Flash has multiple security vulns, disable it.
[04:48] <cfhowlett> mikubuntu, I might add: adobe no longer supports flash on linux so ...
[04:48] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: now that you mention it and cfhowlett i thought html5 had been working for a long time in ff?
[04:48] <N3X15> Last I checked, there were two actively-exploited, unpatched vulns.
[04:48] <cfhowlett> mikubuntu, indeed
[04:49] <mikubuntu> cfhowlett: so should i be installing html5?
[04:49] <OerHeks> https://www.youtube.com/html5
[04:49] <OerHeks> not, you have it already
[04:49] <cfhowlett> mikubuntu, I don't know your use case, but if you are a DEV I'd have to suggest yes.
[04:50] <mikubuntu> cfhowlett: lol. me. a dev. i've been a newbie since 7.04.
[04:51] <mikubuntu> so OerHeks if i have it already, why wasn't it processing my video in ff?
[04:51] <ravi__kumar>  /dcc send lotuspsychje /home/ravi/coding/c++/ravi
[04:51] <ravi__kumar>  /dcc send lotuspsychje /home/ravi/coding/c++/ravi
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> ravi__kumar: upload to a filehost, to share with us all
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> ravi__kumar: imgur/tinypic ?
[04:52] <OerHeks> mikubuntu, does https://www.youtube.com/html5 not give you a choise ?
[04:53] <OerHeks> html5 works on youtube mostly, sites need to upgrade to give you this service
[04:53] <ravi__kumar> lotuspsychje: and how would I do that ? I mean I've no idea of any filehost
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> ravi__kumar: imgur.com tinypic.com
[04:53] <DisplayError> flash should be disabled in the latest firefox, so it should default to html5
[04:53] <wafflej0ck> ravi__kumar, are you trying to share a screen capture?
[04:54] <wafflej0ck> ravi__kumar, in a terminal do, sudo apt-get install shutter, run shutter it's a gui you can hit window then click a window, then hit the export button and choose imgur guest and it will show you a link to the image it uploaded
[04:54] <mikubuntu> OerHeks: ok, yes i 'requested' that it use html5 'when possible' but will that now carry over to chrome or you have to enable each browser i suppose
[04:55] <OerHeks> mikubuntu, indeed.
[04:55] <wafflej0ck> ravi__kumar, if you want to share text or something can use paste.ubuntu.com or the pastebinit program
[04:55] <wafflej0ck> mikubuntu, settings on youtube should carry over based on your account I believe not per browser
[04:56] <mikubuntu> and by virtue of DisplayError 's comment, i should disable flash on both browsers?
[04:56]  * ObrienDave blinks and decides it's TV time *waves*
[04:56] <wafflej0ck> mikubuntu, it's probably not a bad idea if you don't need it
[04:56] <wafflej0ck> it should be auto disabling by default due to some serious security flaws found
[04:58] <wafflej0ck> know they patched it twice in a row but think the policy from FF was to just turn it off
[04:58] <ravi__kumar> lotuspsychje: You can grab the file from http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=08369932814560488177
[04:58] <OerHeks> even after update to flash *.471 i have to enable flash every browser session
[04:58] <andrewjs18> hi all, I have php logging php errors in a file named php.log.  is there a way so it'll automatically rotate to a new daily log each day?
[04:59] <ravi__kumar> lotuspsychje: thanks.
[04:59] <wafflej0ck> andrewjs18, know you're looking for logrotate but not sure exactly how to configure
[05:00] <somsip> andrewjs18: log errors to the apache error log as logrotate should be actioning that one already
[05:00] <OerHeks> andrewjs18, example https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-manage-log-files-with-logrotate-on-ubuntu-12-10
[05:00] <andrewjs18> thanks
[05:00] <mikubuntu> wafflej0ck: oh well the vid is working guess i'll slog along untill i get stuck again
[05:01] <OerHeks> somsip, indeed, i red this howto and at one point you can check what logs are rotating :-)
[05:01] <OerHeks> *read
[05:01] <wafflej0ck> mikubuntu, yeah it's an unfortunate thing with Flash being the only viable option for a lot of places I guess still cause of WebM being not as good as H264 and other things that Flash does well
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> ravi__kumar: wrong url?
[05:01] <somsip> OerHeks: andrewjs18: just set the error_log directive (or similar) in php.ini to the correct setting. No real need for a separate php.log usually
[05:02] <mikubuntu> wafflej0ck: oh so i can expect to get stuck on some lesser served sites i guess you're saying
[05:03] <wafflej0ck> mikubuntu, well think places like hulu and a few other streaming services still rely on Flash, Netflix used to be silverlight though and now that can work in chrome without any extras so hopefully in the relatively near future it won't be a problem
[05:03] <ravi__kumar> lotuspsychje: tried it out it is ok. Will you please consider it one more time .
[05:04] <wafflej0ck> mikubuntu, from what I hear FF is rallying a bit to have Adobe call it over but there's a lot of Flash advertising in Google stuff etc. and like I said I hear WebM is a bit heavier to encode/deliver so there's more cost as it stands today
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> ravi__kumar: file is unvalid try imgur.com
[05:06] <mikubuntu> wafflej0ck: so maybe they can get their '$#^%' together for humanity's sake :P
[05:07] <wafflej0ck> mikubuntu, yeah we should call the topic quits since we're getting way off-topic here but agree it's a shame
[05:07] <wileee> the free market is not concerned with humanities sake unless it's their loss
[05:09] <mikubuntu> ok thx guys, gnna shut this ff down and open my chrome up
[05:18] <shaleh> I have a system running trusty. I am trying to install vagrant on it. But vagrant wants bsdtar and bsdtar says it wants an older version of libarchive13 than trusty has.
[05:19] <shaleh> I have removed all non-ubuntu sources from my sources list, fried my apt data, and do a full update again
[05:19] <shaleh> no help
[05:19] <shaleh> anyone have a thought?
[05:21] <wafflej0ck> shaleh, well I have vagrant installed I don't remember all of that work though
[05:22] <wafflej0ck> !info vagrant
[05:22] <shaleh> wafflej0ck, that is why I am here. The only mention on Google of something like this is somone complaining on a github ticket. He says he "manually install it" and all was well
[05:22] <wafflej0ck> shaleh, yeah think I just sudo apt-get install vagrant
[05:22] <wafflej0ck> and was okay don't remember anything about BSD or anything
[05:23] <wafflej0ck> I'm on trusty too sorry not sure
[05:23] <shaleh> vagrant : Depends: bsdtar but it is not going to be installed
[05:23] <shaleh>  bsdtar : Depends: libarchive13 (= 3.1.2-7ubuntu2) but 3.1.2-7ubuntu2.1 is to be installed
[05:24] <wafflej0ck> shaleh, what if you try to install libarchive13 directly
[05:24] <shaleh> wafflej0ck, yup, it is installed. Note bsdtar wants an older version
[05:26] <shaleh> wafflej0ck, apt-cache show bsdtar on your box, what version do you have?
[05:26] <shaleh> wafflej0ck, I have 3.1.2-7ubuntu2
[05:26] <shaleh> which libarchive13 does it depend on?
[05:26] <wafflej0ck> 3.1.2-7ubuntu2
[05:27] <wafflej0ck> libarchive shows the same actually
[05:27] <shaleh> hmm
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> !info libarchive13 trusty
[05:28] <shaleh> so isn't bsdtar complaining for wafflej0ck ??
[05:28] <shaleh> so why isnt I mean
[05:28] <Dinis> hi
[05:28] <wafflej0ck> shaleh, yeah not sure apt-cache show on vagrant has version 1.4.3-1
[05:29] <Dinis> can't mount windows partition
[05:29] <wafflej0ck> shaleh, and my vagrant --version has the same 1.4.3 so I don't think I compiled or anything
[05:29] <shaleh> yeah, same here.
[05:29] <Dinis> I'm writing /dev/sda1  /mnt/Win_part  ntfs-3g   gid=users   0     0 in fstab
[05:29] <shaleh> wafflej0ck, from that info the bot posted, apt-get update/upgrade should indicate a problem for you
[05:29] <wafflej0ck> shaleh, safe to guess you already tried sudo apt-get update, just to be sure package lists are updated?
[05:30] <shaleh> wafflej0ck, I fried all of /var/apt/lists/* and run it again to be double double sure
[05:30] <shaleh> I also removed all non-ubuntu sources from my list to ensure I was not getting an update from the outside
[05:31] <shaleh> what the hell. I just paid more attention. bsdtar and libarchive13 are built from the same source
[05:32] <wafflej0ck> shaleh, yeah makes sense with the same version num and all
[05:32] <wafflej0ck> still not sure why you think it should be a problem here too though?
[05:32] <shaleh> but look at the bot output. It does _NOT_ have the same version
[05:35] <wafflej0ck> shaleh, actually it shows both
[05:35] <shaleh> wafflej0ck, weird right?
[05:35] <wafflej0ck> 3.1.2-7ubuntu2.1
[05:35] <shaleh> wafflej0ck, I just dpkg --purge --force-depends libarchive13 and re-installed it
[05:35] <shaleh> I got the older version
[05:35] <wafflej0ck> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11907645/
[05:35] <shaleh> now all is well
[05:36] <wafflej0ck> ah k cool
[05:36] <Dinis> I can't mount my windows partition. I'm writing /dev/sda1  /mnt/Win_part  ntfs-3g   gid=users   0   0  in fstab and it doesn't work.
[05:36] <wafflej0ck> shaleh, happy vagranting it is great once it's all working
[05:36] <shaleh> wafflej0ck, I am confused how this happened though
[05:36] <shaleh> wafflej0ck, yeah, I am using it at work. I wanted to dig deeper on my own time.
[05:37] <wafflej0ck> shaleh, yeah i plan to make a youtube vid to go over some vagrant basics one of these days it just hasn't happened yet, there are some decent ones out there though and some good scripts to get going on github
[05:38] <shaleh> wafflej0ck, /me is too old for youtube vids. Plus they are hard to watch at work, on trains, etc.
[05:38] <wafflej0ck> doing it all from scratch is tedious with the whole provision check destroy process
[05:38] <shaleh> give me good tutorial docs any day
[05:39] <gnomethrower> Hi there
[05:39] <DisplayError> Dinis: would this help? perhaps exclude the users bit https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NTFS-3G#Configuring
[05:40] <wafflej0ck> shaleh, yeah can tune this search for what you actually want but typically can find a Vagrantfile and provisioning scripts to get you 90% of the way there https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=github%20vagrant%20lamp
[05:40] <zylex> Hello! Can someone help me out how to get opensource driver to work (ati radeon card)
[05:40] <shaleh> wafflej0ck, thanks for the help tonight. Having a sounding board was useful.
[05:40] <wafflej0ck> shaleh, np glad you got it sorted
[05:41] <zylex> OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc.
[05:41] <zylex> OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.6, 128 bits)
[05:41] <zylex>   thats my problem atm
[05:41] <gnomethrower> I've got a ubuntu box which isn't letting me log in via SSH
[05:41] <gnomethrower> This is what happens http://paste.ubuntu.com/11907660/
[05:42] <Dinis> DisplayError, I've already tried that.
[05:44] <shaleh> gnomethrower, that looks successful
[05:44] <shaleh> gnomethrower, or do you not get a shell?
[05:45] <gnomethrower> shaleh: no shell, it dies on login
[05:45] <shaleh> gnomethrower, it looks like the shell is dying or exiting for some reason
[05:46] <gnomethrower> shaleh: right
[05:46] <gnomethrower> shaleh: question is how do I diagnose what's going wrrong
[05:46] <shaleh> gnomethrower, one sec, checking
[05:47] <zylex> dmesg | egrep 'drm|radeon'
[05:47] <zylex> ,[    5.843306] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
[05:47] <zylex> [    5.988782] [drm] VGACON disable radeon kernel modesetting.
[05:47] <zylex> [    5.988799] [drm:radeon_init [radeon]] *ERROR* No UMS support in radeon module!
[05:47] <zylex> what does that mean?
[05:48] <shaleh> gnomethrower, what happens if you do something innocuous like 'ssh user@host ps'
[05:49] <gnomethrower> shaleh: it gives the output of ps.
[05:49] <shaleh> gnomethrower, likely a problem in your login rc file then
[05:49] <shaleh> gnomethrower, you need some other way to access the box
[05:49] <gnomethrower> shaleh: it's worth mentioning I was able to get a root bash shell by running ssh -t me@box.com "sudo bash"
[05:50] <gnomethrower> I'm just not sure how to debug from that point on
[05:50] <shaleh> gnomethrower, log in as root using above method. Remove all of the user's rc files and try to ssh in again
[05:50] <gnomethrower> also, we're having the same issue with two other completely different users (LDAP)
[05:51] <shaleh> gnomethrower, if there are quotas is might be a quota issue
[05:51] <gnomethrower> shaleh: stupid question... how do I check if there are quotas?
[05:51] <shaleh> as root, quota command
[05:52] <shaleh> quota -u <some user> should help
[05:52] <gnomethrower> shaleh: negative on the rc files... I just moved my home directory out of the way completely and let it get recreated on login
[05:52] <shaleh> gnomethrower, try moving their .bashrc and .bash_profile away first.
[05:52] <gnomethrower> showing same shell-exit issue as before
[05:52] <Jan\> hey I'm trying to boot a live cd it says it needs PAE in order to boot. where is the ubuntu version that supports CPUs wihout PAE ?
[05:52] <gnomethrower> shaleh: I moved ~ to a different dir.
[05:53] <gnomethrower> so it was a fresh env on login
[05:53] <gnomethrower> same issue
[05:53] <shaleh> gnomethrower, nuts
[05:53] <shaleh> gnomethrower, quotas?
[05:53] <gnomethrower> root@dev-web2:~# quota
[05:53] <gnomethrower> The program 'quota' is currently not installed.
[05:53] <mladoux> gnomethrower, quotacheck /mountpoint < if quotas are going, you'll get a response.
[05:54] <mladoux> if you get program not installed, there definitely aren't any
[05:54] <mladoux> but you could try df /mnt to make sure you have free space
[05:54] <gnomethrower> mladoux, shaleh: no quotas.
[05:54] <shaleh> gnomethrower, just rm the dot files but do not move the directory
[05:54] <shaleh> gnomethrower, there may be a bug in the supplied files
[05:54] <mladoux> df -H /home will tell you how much free space are on the home mount point, for example
[05:55] <shaleh> gnomethrower, also, mladoux has a good point on disk space checking
[05:55] <mladoux> you might just need to clear up some space
[05:56] <gnomethrower> mladoux: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11907697/
[05:56] <gnomethrower> shaleh: alright, removed all the dotfiles from that homedir and logged in.. same issue
[05:57] <shaleh> gnomethrower, check /etc/security/limits.conf. Any limit on number of logins or the like?
[05:57] <shaleh> hmm, thinking thinking
[05:57] <gnomethrower> shaleh: absolutely no limits
[05:58] <gnomethrower> at least no ones that are uncommented
[05:58] <shaleh> gnomethrower, how does the ssh host do authentication?
[05:58] <shaleh> is it pam -> ldap?
[05:59] <gnomethrower> shaleh: I believe so
[05:59] <mladoux> gnomethrower, did you move your home directory? and if so, did you update /etc/passwd to reflect that?
[05:59] <gnomethrower> mladoux: No, I didn't move it prior to this issue.
[05:59] <gnomethrower> I moved it out of the way as a debugging step
[06:00] <shaleh> gnomethrower, are there other shells installed on the machine?
[06:00] <gnomethrower> moving it back doesn't make a difference
[06:00] <gnomethrower> shaleh: maybe, how would I check that?
[06:00] <shaleh> gnomethrower, if so, try making a different shell that user's shell
[06:00] <mladoux> well, it needs to be at the location listed in your /etc/passwd file for ssh, so put it back. Secondly, check the group/owner on the directory, make sure your user owns it and the permissions are 700 or higher.
[06:00] <gnomethrower>  /bin/sh and /bin/bash that I know of
[06:00] <shaleh> gnomethrower, is there /bin/zsh or /bin/tcsh
[06:01] <gnomethrower> shaleh: nope
[06:01] <shaleh> mladoux, he said that the login system recreated it.
[06:01] <mladoux> i recommend that it's set to your user and your group, and permission of the directory at 700 as that's the safest setting.
[06:01] <shaleh> mladoux, sounds like auto setup via LDAP pam
[06:01] <mladoux> shaleh, the ssh login system won't usually.
[06:02] <shaleh> the key here is a login shell fails but a simple shell execute succeeds
[06:02] <mladoux> check your sshd settings as well. is it limited to a specific group, and if so, is your user in that group?
[06:02] <mladoux> don't for get to check your login definitions.
[06:03] <mladoux> an any user specific startup scripts.
[06:04] <shaleh> gnomethrower, can you pastebin the output of ssh -vvvv please
[06:05] <latemus> hey, how do i install debian bootstrap in ubuntu
[06:05] <shaleh> gnomethrower, ssh user@host bash -x
[06:05] <shaleh> gnomethrower, ssh user@host bash -ix
[06:06] <gnomethrower> shaleh: one sec
[06:06] <shaleh> sorry, just the -ix
[06:07] <darth> so whats the problem gnomethrower
[06:07] <gnomethrower> darth: I can't login via ssh.
[06:07] <gnomethrower> the minute I do it exits.
[06:07] <darth> so you cant login
[06:07] <shaleh> gnomethrower, the bash -ix should show you the cause if it is in bash
[06:08] <gnomethrower> darth: no..
[06:08] <shaleh> darth: he gets the motd then punted
[06:08] <gnomethrower> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11907660/
[06:08] <gnomethrower> shaleh: alright i'll go run that one sec
[06:08] <darth> oh ok
[06:08] <latemus> is it dpkg -ix debbootstrap - | bash <(wget htp:/debian.org/dpkg/debootstrap) ?
[06:09] <shaleh> latemus: that command is wrong, whatever you are trying. It gives bash two different stdin
[06:09] <gnomethrower> shaleh: what's a good way to capture the output of that command? it's absolutely huge output
[06:09] <latemus> shaleh: oh, thanks. haw many do i need? three?
[06:10] <shaleh> gnomethrower: script. At the prompt type 'script' then run the ssh, then 'exit'
[06:10] <shaleh> gnomethrower, it will store everything in a script file in the dir where you ran it
[06:10] <shaleh> gnomethrower, purge any passwords it kept (it shouldnt but check)
[06:10] <latemus> bash <<<fd{1,2,3} | dpkg -xi debootstrap.com
[06:11] <shaleh> latemus: why are you trying to perform magic?
[06:11] <gnomethrower> shaleh: thanks, give me a few minutes
[06:11] <latemus> shaleh: lol
[06:11] <shaleh> gnomethrower, if you are lucky you will look at the output and immediately see the cause
[06:12] <shaleh> latemus: what is your goal?
[06:13] <latemus> find / -type f -mode 777 | grep debootstrap.exe | xargs -I% dpkg -xivv % 2> /dev/mouse
[06:14] <latemus> shaleh: to debian bp ubootnstrap
[06:14] <latemus> uboontstrap
[06:14] <shaleh> are you trolling? Because no one in their sane mind thinks piping error to /dev/mouse is a good idea
[06:15] <Jan\> I'm trying to boot a live cd it says it needs PAE in order to boot. where is the ubuntu version that supports CPUs wihout PAE ?
[06:15] <shaleh> Jan\, you want the i386 not the x86_64 I think
[06:15] <latemus> shaleh: yeh.
[06:15] <latemus> shaleh: good talks. thatks for talking
[06:16]  * shaleh has a Scooby Doo moment as he pulls off the mask
[06:16] <latemus> lmao
[06:17] <akash> Hey there !  how do I grep only the user created profiles among all users in linux ?
[06:17] <shaleh> Jan\, http://askubuntu.com/questions/117744/how-can-i-install-on-a-non-pae-cpu-error-kernel-requires-features-not-present
[06:17] <Jan\> shaleh: i386 is the one i got
[06:18] <shaleh> Jan\, read that link
[06:18] <latemus> akash: you mean, the users added byb any user other than root?
[06:18] <en1gma> is there 70GB of data i need to download if i want to do a kernel patch?
[06:19] <latemus> en1gma: just git checkout the diff you need
[06:19] <en1gma> im following a guide on a patch (i might (need)) to do but cant believe i would need 70GB to do it
[06:19] <akash> latemus:  look here http://pastebin.com/Z9Y1tZ8L
[06:19] <akash> latemus:  out of that , i just need celestial and neetish users
[06:19] <en1gma> latemus could you look at this " http://arrayfire.com/opencl-on-intel-hd-iris-graphics-on-linux/ " and look at the part where it says 70 GB
[06:20] <darth> bye guys i am installing windows 8.1
[06:20] <en1gma> "70 GB of hard disk space and perhaps an hour of compilation time if the build is executed in parallel."
[06:20] <wileee> already git it
[06:20] <wileee> got*
[06:20] <en1gma> you have the patched kernel?
[06:22] <wileee> windows is like an antique car just take it once in a while
[06:22] <Jan\> shaleh: ty for that link
[06:22] <shaleh> Jan\, no worries
[06:22] <en1gma> what if your main car is antique?
[06:22] <shaleh> Jan\, as usual, typing the right thing into Google is the secret
[06:22] <en1gma> well lets just say "old"
[06:23] <Jan\> shaleh: maybe I like people interaction
[06:23] <shaleh> Jan\, agreed :-) No worries
[06:24] <akash> any inputs ?
[06:24] <akash> Hey there !  how do I grep only the user created profiles among all users in linux ?
[06:24] <akash>  out of that , i just need celestial and neetish users
[06:25] <en1gma> how many GB will this command do? 'apt-get source linux-image-`uname -r`'
[06:26] <en1gma> i think that guy put GB when it should be MB?
[06:26] <latemus> en1gma: apt-get has a dry-run swith i think.. add it it to that command
[06:26] <latemus> akash: last i checked the kernel source was ~70MB
[06:26] <latemus> no way in hades is it 70GB bro
[06:26] <akash> latemus:  what ? I don't get this
[06:26] <latemus> akash
[06:27] <latemus> akash: sorry man, i meant to adress en1gma there
[06:27] <en1gma> ok will check that dryrun option. never used it before so gonna look at it now
[06:27] <akash> latemus:  okay :P , hey do you have an idea to solve my problem ?
[06:28] <latemus> akash: do you want help using the grep command? or is it that you need to programmatically devine which users are not part of a vanilla ubuntu install? splain
[06:29] <latemus> en1gma: its -s for apt-get it looks like, yeh? simulate
[06:29] <shaleh> gnomethrower, I have to check out. Good luck.
[06:29] <en1gma> i didnt find dry-run option but went ahead and did full command and it looks like its 130MB just like it always has been for kernel source. well close to that for a long time anyhow
[06:29] <en1gma> thanks latemus. just did a quick scan for dry-run and didnt see it. glad to know about the -s option though.
[06:30] <akash> latemus:  I don't think it's anything to do with grep , I'm just thining if there's a linux command over there ( repquota ) or any other to list only manually created users  ( I looked for man page in reqpquota) , couldn't find any
[06:30] <latemus> looks like --dry-ren does the trick too
[06:30] <latemus> *run
[06:30] <gnomethrower> shaleh: thanks for the help
[06:31] <latemus> akash: there isnt, sorry buddy. the only thing i can mention is that perhaps auditd might track that kinda shih, lets check if ubuntu has auditd by dufault
[06:32] <akash> latemus: thanks
[06:34] <en1gma> http://pastebin.com/5xNu5B7i   <<<< this is when i checked with git stat and git apply check
[06:34] <en1gma> does that mean the patch is already in there or that i just cant patch because i have something messed up
[06:35] <en1gma> do i need to be sudo / root to apply patch?
[06:37] <latemus> akash: when you install the system, backup /etc/passwd to /root or some shiht, thun you can 'diff /root/passwd.orig /etc/passwd | awk '{print $1}' > users-that-were-added.txt; while read user; do repquota / | grep "$user" >> new-user-quotas.txt; done < usuers-that-were-added.txt
[06:37] <latemus> '
[06:38] <latemus> ? if you .. need to do this more than once
[06:38] <akash> latemus:  looks like a complicated solution :/
[06:39] <latemus> en1gma: what are the permissions on the kernel source awhd build dir? i mean you'll need to make install as root at least
[06:40] <latemus> en1gma: i would sudo -s to became root then build and install it
[06:40] <latemus> akash: yeah sorry about that
[06:40] <latemus> you need to autamate this?
[06:40] <akash> latemus:  yes that's the problem :/
[06:41] <en1gma> latemus i not building or making yet. was just trying to apply the patch and it gave me that error when i did a "check"
[06:41] <en1gma> i about ready to run a diff on it like you said earlier
[06:44] <barq> How come 14.04.1 LTS has much longer support than 14.04.2 LTS? I thought all LTS have 5 years now?
[06:44] <wileee> it's th e same reread
[06:45] <wileee> all the support for 14.04 ends at the same time, the additional number .1 .2.3  etc are release dates within.
[06:47] <barq> Why does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases say EOL HWE 2016?
[06:49] <wileee> barq, Try clicking that.
[06:50] <wileee> this EOL HWE 2016
[06:50] <wileee> the OS is not eol
[06:50] <barq> what is the difference?
[06:50] <wileee> barq, Do the research bro. ;)
[06:51] <latemus> then it's really not that complicated, look at it this way --> http://pastebin.com/kJsJ8FHA
[06:52] <barq> So only HWE will be EOL
[06:52] <barq> Otherwise not
[06:52] <Ben64> click on it
[06:52] <latemus> akash: ^
[06:53] <Jan\> I tired the mini netinstall non-PAW version and it's stuck on a pruple screen ?
[06:54] <Jan\> *PAE
[06:54] <latemus> *BAE
[06:54] <latemus> sorry
[06:54] <akash> vexoon , Hey there !  how do I grep only the user created profiles among all users in linux ?
[06:54] <akash> latemus:  you want me to ask him uh ?
[06:54] <Jan\> I tired the mini netinstall non-PAE version and it's stuck on a pruple screen ?
[06:55] <latemus> akash: what? ask if you like. maybe he knows a way. you saw my paste above i linked you to?
[06:55] <gnomethrower> Need help - My Ubuntu installation won't let me login regularly over SSH. Tried 3 different LDAP users. This is the result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11907660/ - MOTD then exits before a shell pops up.
[06:55] <akash> latemus:  lol wait , :)
[06:56] <gnomethrower> I can get a root shell by running ssh -t user@site.com "sudo bash"
[06:56] <akash> latemus:  i will run that file ?
[06:56] <latemus> akash: just remember that script will look for the vanilla passwd as /root/passwd.orig, yeh
[06:57] <akash> latemus:  well , i need to deploy this code on centos and so many other flavors :/
[06:57] <latemus> akash: as in, you will need to take a newly installed maschine from your environment, and copy it's ...
[06:58] <latemus> akash: do you use some type of configuration mgmnt like chef or ansible?
[06:58] <akash> latemus:   no :/
[06:59] <latemus> akash: there is no standard for the users in /etc/passwd outside of root being uid 0 and bin being uid 2 iirc
[06:59] <akash> latemus:  moreover i can't afford to use all those things , im integrting this in a emmbedded device , it needs to be light
[07:00] <latemus> but you could... _look_ at the passwd files for those distributions and compare thum. i meaon
[07:00] <latemus> oh its embedded?
[07:00] <latemus> maybe you should radiation harden things too
[07:00] <latemus>  :)
[07:01] <latemus> you could write a utility in arm5v assembly that prays to god to derive which users have been added by.. users
[07:02] <latemus> .. just write a posix shell script that does it and backup a fresh passwd.orig for each distro
[07:03] <akash> latemus:  thanks man :D I'll look around
[07:04] <latemus> stare them on a local ftp server or some shit and wget them? echo "GET /$DISTRO"/passwd.orig | nc server.lan > /root/passwd.orig
[07:04] <latemus> akash: good luck bro
[07:07] <latemus> how do i install debootstap in ubuntu 6.10
[07:09] <wileee> latemus, way beyond any support here, just a heads up is all.
[07:11] <akash> latemus:  what do you do bro ?
[07:16] <Kali_Yuga> I have a problem to get warthunder starting. It was starting all the time but today it gives me an error??
[07:16] <latemus> wileee: thanks
[07:17] <wileee> np
[07:17] <latemus> akash: linerx sis admin
[07:18] <paolochiodi> Hi, there’s a way to restart a service without sudo?
[07:18] <paolochiodi> I have a deployment script for my app and after deploy I’d like to restart the app itself (that is executed through upstart)
[07:18] <latemus> Kali_Yuga: use warhammen instead
[07:18] <latemus> warhammer
[07:19] <Ben64> paolochiodi: no
[07:19] <akash> latemus:  how do i learn linux commands like a expert ? like any blog to begin
[07:19] <latemus> akash: lol
[07:19] <paolochiodi> Ben64: I get “sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified”… any workaround?
[07:20] <latemus> akash: how much do you want to learn? go do this http://linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/7.7
[07:20] <Ben64> paolochiodi: what exactly are you doing
[07:20] <Kali_Yuga> Warthunder error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/11907903/
[07:21] <paolochiodi> Ben64: I use mina-deploy that in fact runs a non-interactive ssh session sending commands to deploy (clone from git, symlinking etc)
[07:21] <akash> latemus:  i know basics , but like to learn in an advance role
[07:21] <paolochiodi> Ben64: https://github.com/mina-deploy/mina
[07:22] <Ben64> paolochiodi: sounds like a problem with mina then
[07:22] <paolochiodi> Ben64: someone on that project suggested to add NOPASSWD to the sudoers, but doesn’t seem a safe approach to me
[07:23] <latemus> akash: never give up. its seems like maybe you need to learn to write shell scripts. first read this http://www.tlpd.org/LDP/abs/html
[07:24] <latemus> akash: if youre not ready to build LFS yet then use slackware for a while
[07:24] <akash> latemus:  thanks bro , the sub link doesnt exist
[07:24] <latemus> ah
[07:25] <latemus> akash: just search for the advanced bash scripting guide
[07:25] <akash> latemus:  cool ^^
[07:25] <akash> latemus:  hey , i would like to be in touch with you , drop me your mail ?
[07:27] <latemus> akash: just find me on here, on irc.freenode.net
[07:28] <akash> latemus:  cool ^^
[07:28] <latemus> akash: :)
[07:32] <Kali_Yuga> Nevermind I fixed it thru restarting ^^
[07:38] <latemus> what do you call ubuntu installed on a toaster oven?
[07:39] <latemus> fryware!
[07:43] <latemus> prisoner zero has escaped. night, empty netsplit garbage
[07:44] <maps_> hi, need a little help
[07:44] <latemus> hey maps
[07:44] <latemus> what you doing
[07:44] <maps_> latemus, hi, installed ubuntu 14.04 and tried to install intel onboard drivers...how to check they are installed or not?
[07:45] <paolochiodi> how to I add an options to sudoers to allow nopasswd for “service my_program restart” ?
[07:46] <latemus> maps_: man dpkg-query
[07:47] <DroWn> maps
[07:47] <DroWn> you can also look at "about this computer"
[07:47] <Mason64> Hi everyone, I have been told to stop using flash on firefox as its no longer secure, If i want to watch You tube video's it keeps telling me i need to allow flash, is there around this? or should i continue to allow flash for youtube?
[07:47] <maps_> DroWn, i'll check it..thannks
[07:47] <DroWn> Thats if your using Unity
[07:48] <DroWn> It'll be accessible by your username in the top right corner
[07:48] <DroWn> Mason
[07:48] <latemus> maps_: 'dpkg-query -l *intel*' maybe?
[07:48] <wileee> Mason64, Funny how it's the linux community right, the least vulnerable to flash that is waving it hands in the air.
[07:48] <Ellon> hi
[07:48] <DroWn> There are stil adobe updates
[07:48] <Ellon> h
[07:48] <Ellon> hi
[07:48] <DroWn> for flash
[07:48] <Ellon> anybody home?
[07:49] <DroWn> I just got one through Ubuntu software update the other day
[07:49] <latemus> Ellon: hi
[07:49] <Mason64> ahh ok wileee so dont worry about it then :)
[07:49] <maps_> latemus, DroWn ; i got this thing   dpkg-query -l *intel*
[07:49] <Mason64> and DroWn i will go see if am up to date now thanks
[07:49] <maps_> latemus, DroWn ; i got this thing ii  intel-gpu-tool 1.3-0ubuntu2 amd64        tools for debugging the Intel gra
[07:49] <maps_> ii  intel-linux-gr 1.1.0-0intel amd64        Intel graphics drivers update uti
[07:49] <maps_> ii  libdrm-intel1: 2.4.56-1~ubu amd64        Userspace interface to intel-spec
[07:49] <maps_> un  libva-intel-va <none>       <none>       (no description available)
[07:49] <maps_> un  xserver-xorg-v <none>       <none>       (no description available)
[07:49] <maps_> ii  xserver-xorg-v 2:2.99.914-1 amd64        X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9x
[07:49] <wileee> Mason64, No, just be safe, worry is a a persoanl thing.
[07:49] <DroWn> after I installed the update my plugins no longer said they were vulnerable.
[07:50] <Mason64> wileee, ok thanks
[07:50] <latemus> Mason64: install cclive then download the videos and watch them in mplayer
[07:50] <wileee> Mason64, The deal is most of the world needs it so it's as said earlier dieing very slowly.
[07:51] <Mason64> latemus, can i get cclive from the software center?
[07:51] <latemus> maps_ did you install from repository through synaptic or is it a third party thing,
[07:52] <latemus> Mason64: huh. it looks like it might be available in there. try it
[07:52] <Mason64> latemus, thanks. will go give it a try now, i have been using keepvid.com to rip my youtube video's this maybe better :)
[07:52] <latemus> if not, http://cclive.sourceforge.net
[07:53] <latemus> Mason64: oh, for sure it will be
[07:53] <latemus> Mason64: legal disclaimer: its illegal
[07:53] <latemus> lol
[07:53] <Mason64> lol i wont tell if you dont :)
[07:53] <latemus> lol
[07:53] <DroWn> what is the downside of using Adobe Flash?
[07:54] <DroWn> If Ubuntu just gave me an Adobe Flash Player update.
[07:54] <zaggynl> crappy browser performance and security risk
[07:54] <zaggynl> but lots of websites still use flash
[07:54] <DroWn> Well I have Flashblock,and I've changed Firefox settigns so it doesn't devour ram,but what is the security risk?
[07:55] <wileee> DroWn, Your job is to research that if you want to really understand.
[07:56] <DroWn> Yea I can do that,but since someone in this room has already mentioned it I figured I'd ask them while they were on the subject.
[07:57] <wileee> fair enough, some will take the time. ; )
[07:58] <Mason64> i asked but i dont know why its not secure so am going to read this - http://www.zdnet.com/article/how-secure-is-flash-heres-what-adobe-wont-tell-you/
[07:59] <latemus> DroWn:  beleive the risk is remote arbitrary command execution on the client running vulnerable flash versions
[07:59] <wileee> Mason64, from May 14, 2010 is all 5 years ago.
[07:59] <latemus> DroWn: and there is an unending stream of new vulnerabilities in flash, all the time
[07:59] <Mason64> lol i didnt read the date:) thanks wileee
[08:00] <wileee> easy to miss
[08:01] <paolochiodi> Hi, sudo -l says I can run (root) NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/service but when trying sudo /usr/sbin/service I’m being asked the password… what am I doing wrong?
[08:01] <wileee> Mason64, DroWn this is part, http://www.syracuse.com/us-news/index.ssf/2015/07/google_mozilla_adobe_flash_block_security_flaw.html
[08:01] <DroWn> thank yo
[08:02] <DroWn> An Italian hacking group called Hacking Team lol
[08:02] <wileee> np
[08:02] <DroWn> how original
[08:03] <DroWn> But as far as I know
[08:03] <DroWn> Adobe has ceased flash support in Linux right?
[08:04] <wileee> noting but a occasional security update
[08:04] <DroWn> Ah
[08:04] <wileee> nothing*
[08:04] <DroWn> so we could still get this update
[08:04] <DroWn> Is there a candidate to replace flash
[08:04] <DroWn> like maybe. HTML5?
[08:04] <DroWn> video
[08:05] <Mason64> it said they should replace it with html5 or sliverlight, will sliverlight run on linux?
[08:05] <Mason64> or should the question be does it.
[08:06] <DroWn> I thought Silverlight was developed by Microsoft
[08:06] <zaggynl> silverlight is going eol
[08:06] <DroWn> ah
[08:06] <zaggynl> html5 sort of replaces flash but only does a fraction of what flash can
[08:06] <DroWn> yeah not interactive content
[08:06] <Mason64> eol?
[08:07] <DroWn> enf of life
[08:07] <DroWn> end of life
[08:07] <Mason64> ahh ok
[08:07] <DroWn> Does HTML5 just natively have video coding?
[08:07] <DroWn> Like do you need any clientside or serverside application to use it in a site?
[08:08]  * zaggynl points to duckduckgo.com
[08:08] <latemus> flash vuln from may https://packetstormsecurity.com/files/131891/RHSA-2015-1005-01.txt
[08:10] <mladoux> DroWn, https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Supported_media_formats <-- HTML5 video support will depend on what codecs your browser supports. webm seems to be the most compatible cross-browser, but mp4 also has good support.
[08:11] <DroWn> thanks sorry I know I should look it up myself,but I enjoy tlaking to humans
[08:11] <Linux> Hey guys i just got unbuntu and am really enjoying it so far but how do i install .run files?
[08:12] <mladoux> whether or not you'll need additional codecs installed will depend entirely on which browser you are using.
[08:12] <DroWn> well
[08:12] <mladoux> and whether or not it has built in coders or if it pulls from the OS
[08:12] <DroWn> Linux you can get much software by using sudo apt-get
[08:12] <DroWn> or rather sudo apt-get install
[08:13] <mladoux> DroWn, that's only debian based distro's such as Ubuntu, which this channel is for.
[08:13] <Linux> what would i type after that to say get teamspeak and my video driver because i downloaded them of the offical websites as .runs?
[08:13] <mladoux> other distros use other tools
[08:13] <DroWn> he said Ubvuntu
[08:13] <DroWn> Ubuntu
[08:13] <mladoux> I know what he said, you said Linux
[08:13] <DroWn> that's his name
[08:13] <DroWn> LOL
[08:13] <mladoux> I just don't want to confuse anyone.
[08:13] <DroWn> his username is Linux
[08:13] <mladoux> oh, okay DroWn I missed that
[08:14] <mladoux> DroWn, but, you have to admit, it was confusing.
[08:14] <DroWn> lol I can see
[08:15] <Mason64> whats the best software to run a virtual pc?
[08:15] <DroWn> I use Virtual Box
[08:15] <DroWn> on Linux
[08:15] <mitchYr> hello all
[08:15] <DroWn> but I use VMWare Workstation with Windows
[08:15] <DroWn> I believe you can use both on Linux
[08:15] <Mason64> DroWn,  yeah on linux. i will download virtual box now
[08:16] <DroWn> Be sure to Install Guest Additions
[08:16] <DroWn> After you set up the Virtual Machine
[08:16] <Mason64> ok will do,
[08:16] <DroWn> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#idp90764336
[08:17] <DroWn> Oracle has decent documentation
[08:17] <mitchYr> is there any special packs i need to install so i can compile a Makefile ? i always get the no target error
[08:17] <mitchYr> any help greatly appreciated. thank you
[08:17] <DroWn> Mercurial
[08:17] <mladoux> Mason64, depends entirely on what your using it for, if you're just wanting something quick and easy, Virtualbox is really nice, if you need something low resource to do some serious virtualization, I would personally recommend qemu with KVM
[08:17] <DroWn> Can help with that.
[08:17] <DroWn> making I mean
[08:20] <frank__> anyone need help?
[08:20] <talamarr> morning all
[08:20] <DroWn> frank
[08:20] <frank__> morning!
[08:20] <mitchYr> i have stumbled upon a makefile and .c file on github, i downloaded the master.zip into my usr desktop directory and make seems to give me the error, so if there were packs i needed to get i could try them..  not looking for someone to drop everything to help me wityh something as basic as this, it's been to long since i've tried this kind of thing
[08:20] <kiranos> which version of QT will ubuntu 15.10 ship with? is it 5.5 or will that come later?
[08:21] <Linux> How do i install a .run everytime it just opens in gedit?
[08:21] <DroWn> get Mercurial
[08:21] <DroWn> mitch
[08:21] <somsip> mitchYr: you should ask the github repo owner for help. That's outside the scope of this channel
[08:21] <kiranos> Linux: open a terminal and run ./run
[08:21] <DroWn> yeap
[08:21] <DroWn> ./ is how you run from terminal
[08:22] <mitchYr> ok. sorry, i thought you were still responding to someone else DroWn, Thank's mate i'll give it a shot, and Cheers Somsip, i have done that, i just thought i would try it. learning as I go. :)
[08:22] <DroWn> does anyone have any comprehensive learning guides for Terminals?
[08:22] <somsip> kiranos: questions about 15.10 need to be asked in #ubuntu+1
[08:22] <kiranos> ah ok thanks
[08:22] <DroWn> best way to learn bro
[08:22] <somsip> !bash | DroWn
[08:22] <talamarr> break it fix it break it again
[08:22] <talamarr> its the nix way
[08:22] <somsip> talamarr: do you have a support question?
[08:23] <kiranos> DroWn: google bash basic tutorial
[08:23] <somsip> !google | kiranos (it's kind of frowned on in here)
[08:23] <talamarr> installed linux mate
[08:23] <talamarr> just cruising to see what has changed
[08:23] <somsip> talamarr: k - welcome, but this channel is for support questions. If you do want to chat, please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:23] <DroWn> I know the terminal basics,I was hoping for something giving guides on more detailed uses
[08:24] <somsip> DroWn: join #bash for specific help
[08:24] <talamarr> no worries somsip
[08:24] <mladoux> http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
[08:24] <DroWn> thanks mladoux
[08:24] <talamarr> just about to exit was curious to the answer to mitch question
[08:24] <mladoux> http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html <-- for more advanced stuff
[08:24] <mladoux> it's a bit outdated, but it should still be mostly relevent
[08:25] <moses> does ubuntu come with a builtin ftp?
[08:25] <DroWn> no.
[08:25] <DroWn> You could use Samba though.
[08:25] <moses> whats samba?
[08:25] <DroWn> its a file sharing service
[08:25] <DroWn> for home networks
[08:26] <DroWn> it provides interconnectivity for WIndows
[08:26] <kiranos> samba emulates windows share
[08:26] <mladoux> moses, apt-get isntall filezilla if you want a gui, apt-get install ncftp for a good cli client
[08:26] <DroWn> which can be useful
[08:26] <DroWn> filezilla
[08:26] <DroWn> is a good real FTP
[08:26] <somsip> moses: what do you need ftp for. If we know your use case, we can give directed advice
[08:26] <moses> upload pdf/html to a server
[08:26] <moses> i am sshed onto the server now
[08:26] <moses> running irssi here
[08:26] <DroWn> you need ncftp]
[08:27] <somsip> moses: an ftp client then? Use the command line, or Filezilla as recommended
[08:27] <somsip> moses: scp even better then if you have ssh access
[08:27] <mladoux> moses you can also use scp, ftp is kind of insecure.
[08:27] <mladoux> and by kind of, i mean completely
[08:27] <moses> what is scp?
[08:27] <somsip> moses: WHS ^^^
[08:27] <kiranos> filezilla support scp
[08:27] <somsip> moses: secure copy.
[08:28] <mladoux> it's a method to transfer files over ssh
[08:28] <kiranos> so just choose that instead of ftp in the dropdown menu
[08:28] <kiranos> scp uses the ssh protocoll
[08:28] <kiranos> and port 22
[08:28] <kiranos> just as regular ssh
[08:28] <mladoux> just log in with filezilla using your ssh port and your server username and password, and you can transfer files that way.
[08:29] <mladoux> my servers don't even have ftp installed anymore.
[08:30] <Ellon> hi
[08:30] <Ellon> I lost my soud
[08:30] <Ellon> sound
[08:30] <zaggynl> that is a good question actually, what is a good way to transfer files between linux pcs? something that's easy to use, fast and secure?
[08:30] <moses> yeah
[08:31] <moses> this server only allows scp
[08:31] <zaggynl> ssh is slow, sshfs doesn't cope well with connection hitches
[08:31] <zaggynl> ftp is plaintext and old
[08:31] <DroWn> samba works for linux computers
[08:31] <mladoux> is this over a LAN, or over the internet?
[08:31] <zaggynl> both
[08:32] <mladoux> well, that puts samba out
[08:32] <zaggynl> I haven't looked into nfs myself yet, maybe I should
[08:32] <DroWn> lol yea
[08:32] <mladoux> zaggynl, sorry, I don't really have a good answer for you, scp is enough for me, but then I have very very fast internet.
[08:33] <zaggynl> I have fast internet too, I don't think I can reach max speed even with scp
[08:33] <zaggynl> lemme test
[08:33] <somsip> zaggynl: what use case? One off files, or lots of folders?
[08:33] <mladoux> I know I can't reach max speed with scp, but then, you'd be hard pressed to up 1 gbps over scp, lol
[08:33] <zaggynl> worst case scenario, lots of small/big files
[08:34] <somsip> zaggynl: rsync over ssh, scp recursive
[08:34] <mladoux> zaggynl, all the time, or only once in a while? filezilla is good at managing issues with ssh connections not playing nice.
[08:35] <zaggynl> rsync over ssh, hmm
[08:35] <Ellon> hi i installed lubuntu and i have no sound
[08:35] <somsip> zaggynl: if you're int he habit of mirroring folders, I do find btsync useful, though not ideal
[08:36] <mas886> Hi there, anyone who can help me with a resolution thing?
[08:36] <jpds> zaggynl: git-annex
[08:36] <somsip> mas886: just ask your question and someone will answer if they can
[08:37] <mas886> Okay
[08:38] <Ellon>  hi i installed lubuntu and i have no sound
[08:38] <mas886> So I just installed kubuntu 15.04 64 bits on my AMD CPU and GPU computer, and with the default drivers it was detecting a 1025x768 screen resolution
[08:38] <jpds> zaggynl: https://git-annex.branchable.com/
[08:38] <zaggynl> thanks
[08:38] <mladoux> Ellon, did you check the sound properties to see if it recognizes your device, it might just be muted.
[08:38] <mas886> I installed the catalyst control center and now it detects a 1600x1200 resolution, but my screen is 1080
[08:38] <mas886> And can't get higher
[08:38] <zaggynl> hrm, cli, lets say I'm horribly lazy and hate typing
[08:39] <Ellon> mladoux it seems i dont have any sound\
[08:39] <Ellon> i dont have sound icon
[08:39] <Ellon> mladoux how to check it
[08:39] <mladoux> open up a cli, type lspci to see if your soundcard is listed first
[08:40] <mas886> So can anyone help me to use a 1080 resolution on my computer?
[08:40] <shambat> Ive made some changes to a .conf file in /etc/security/limits.d/ but even after reboot, there is no change. I can't run ulimit as the other user, as I don't know that user's password.
[08:40] <mladoux> you can run aslamixer in the cli as well to try and adjust your volume there, but if you have no sound icon, you're likely not even recognizing the card, I would google your card model because, even though it is pretty rare to have to do it anymore, fixing a sound card that isn't working out of the box is pretty painful.
[08:41] <Ellon> mas886: 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[08:41] <mas886> What you mean Ellon?
[08:41] <Ellon> mas886, sound card seems listed
[08:42] <somsip> Ellon: talk to mladoux as he asked you the question...
[08:42] <mladoux> yeah, the system can see the hardware, alsamixer will tell you if it's functioning.
[08:42] <mas886> Ellon: I have no problem with audio, my problem is with screen resolution
[08:42] <mladoux> if alsamixer doesn't see it, you may be missing firmware.
[08:43] <Ellon> seems alsamixer isnt installed
[08:43] <mladoux> Ellon, sudo apt-get install alsamixer
[08:43] <Ellon> E: Unable to locate package alsamixer
[08:44] <wileee> Ellon, what release is this?
[08:44] <Ellon> Lubuntu 14.10
[08:44] <Ellon> Just installed
[08:44] <wileee> Ellon, Will be eol on thursday.
[08:44] <mladoux> ah, they changed the package name, do alsamixergui
[08:45] <mladoux> I'm not sure if alsamixer is part of alsa-tools or alsa-utils, it sounds like you might not have a sound system installed.
[08:45] <Ellon> hmm
[08:45] <Ellon> so i installed alsamixergui
[08:46] <mladoux> now you should have a mixer.
[08:46] <Ellon> hmm i don't have it
[08:46] <mladoux> you'll find it in your menu somewhere.
[08:46] <Ellon> nop i dont see it
[08:46] <mladoux> try ls /usr/bin/alsam*
[08:46] <Ellon> gatis@notebook:~$ ls /usr/bin/alsam* /usr/bin/alsamixer  /usr/bin/alsamixergui
[08:47] <mladoux> okay, type alsamixer
[08:47] <mladoux> in the cli
[08:47] <Ellon> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[08:47] <mladoux> yeah, sounds like you're either missing a sound system, or your missing some firmware.
[08:48] <mladoux> when you installed lubuntu, what method did you use?
[08:48] <Ellon> mladoux what method
[08:48] <Ellon> ?
[08:48] <Ellon> full install
[08:48] <mladoux> did you use the livecd, or did you use a minimal cd?
[08:48] <Ellon> livecd
[08:48] <mladoux> okay
[08:48] <mladoux> one moment.
[08:49] <mladoux> 14.10, right?
[08:49] <Ellon> ye
[08:50] <mladoux> okay, try installing pulseaudio and pavucontrol, then reboot your computer
[08:50] <mladoux> Ellon, apparently you're not the first person with this issue on that particular release.
[08:51] <wileee> Ellon, so your up with having to upgrade by thursday?
[08:51] <Ellon> yes
[08:51] <wileee> cool, ;)
[08:51] <mladoux> if you wanted to not run the latest version Ellon, I would have run the LTS, but I would recommend since it's a fresh install, just downloading the 15.04 lubuntu iso and installing.
[08:52] <Ellon> i can upgrade
[08:53] <mladoux> yes, but there's a complete sysinit change between 15.04 and 14.10, so a fresh install would probably be cleaner and less fraught with issue. if you had been using your system for a while already and it wasn't a fresh install, then I'd recommend an upgrade.
[08:53] <Ellon> ok
[08:53] <Ellon> 15.04 or 15.10?
[08:54] <mladoux> it will probably be fine to upgrade, but a fresh install would be less likely to have issue. 15.04, 15.10 isn't even out yet except for testing
[08:55] <Ellon> ah ok
[08:55] <mladoux> no worries. if you want to stay with upstart for a while longer, install 14.04 LTS instead, that way you'll still be supported for while
[08:56] <mladoux> I don't remember how long the LTS support cycle is, but I know it has at least another 2 years on it.
[08:56] <mladoux> meh
[08:56] <mladoux> he closed the window.
[08:56] <Ben64> LTS are now supported for 5 years, so 14.04 is good until 2019
[08:56] <mladoux> Ben64, thanks, I always upgrade my servers with the next LTS server release.
[08:57] <mladoux> so I never paid attention to it's exact support cylce.
[08:57] <mladoux> though I will wait before upgrading to the 16.04 release just to see what happens when other people do it.
[08:57] <Ben64> normally people wait for the .1 release to upgrade
[08:58] <mladoux> Ben64, I'm a risk taker, what can I say
[08:59] <mladoux> besides, my stuff isn't mission critical, and I have dejadup backups rsynced to an offsite backup.
[08:59] <Mega> Fellows, could somebody tell me please how to copy files from remote host like this command `scp username@hostname:/path/to/remote/file /path/to/local/file`
[08:59] <somsip> Mega: just like that
[08:59] <Mega> But instead `username@hostname` use settings from ssh config?
[09:00] <somsip> Mega: use your user name on the remote server and the remote host name %-/
[09:01] <flashingpumpkin> hi there. I'm wondering if anyone else is running into problems with intel_pstate? Basically since it was introduced 1) my laptop overheats and shuts down regularly and 2) has really bad performance (i.e. CPU is getting clamped for heat regulation instead of fans spinning faster)
[09:01] <Mega> Wow, @somsip, thank you! My fault was I misspeled my servername twice xD
[09:01] <Ellon> Installing pulseaudio fixed my sound issue
[09:02] <nopf> Mega: http://nerderati.com/2011/03/17/simplify-your-life-with-an-ssh-config-file/
[09:02] <Ellon> mladoux: hi
[09:02] <flashingpumpkin> so, I've switched back to acpi, with intel_pstate=disabled in grub. but since vivid this also regularly overheats and therefore shuts down the laptop. it seems that fans step down once over 80°-something C. I.e. they are at the top speed *below* the high temperatures and then get slower again
[09:02] <marc__> Hey guys, I hope this is the correct channel to ask questions about Ubuntu... I have the following problem: when I start up my vserver, startup stops at "* Starting configure network device    [OK]" and I do not know how to get more information on what the problem might be... is there a way to get a more verbose output?
[09:03] <mladoux> Ellon, hi
[09:03] <flashingpumpkin> (this is a dell xps 13 dev edition)
[09:03] <mladoux> Ellon, sorry, I was a bit distracted, watching a movie.
[09:04] <mladoux> glad to hear I was right about it being a missing sound system. enjoy your lubuntu
[09:05] <marc__> anybody here who can help me with this bootup problem?
[09:05] <Ellon>  mladoux: installing pulseaudio worked
[09:06] <flashingpumpkin> re
[09:06] <Ellon> mladoux: thank
[09:07] <flashingpumpkin> otherwise, I've looked around how I can regulate the fans manually, i.e. spin them up to full speed. But, everything I found seems broken.
[09:11] <Ellon> mladoux: hey i have new problem, sound icon has appeared but i dont hear sound
[09:11] <wileee> flashingpumpkin, Did a previews release work fine?
[09:11] <wileee> previous*
[09:11] <mladoux> Ellon, it's probably just muted by default, open up your sound mixer and check it.
[09:12] <Ellon> how to open it?
[09:12] <flashingpumpkin> wileee, no it didn't really. but it was manageable. it's gotten worse :S
[09:12] <Mega> @nopf Thanks man! Pretty useful
[09:12] <flashingpumpkin> intel_pstate never did really. especially coupled with thermald it would grind the CPU regularly to a halt when compiling things, i.e. clamp it to 700mhz
[09:12] <mladoux> Ellon, not sure, try doubleclicking the sound icon
[09:12] <Ellon> yeah i opened it
[09:12] <mladoux> or right click it and see if there's a menu
[09:12] <wileee> flashingpumpkin, Bummer, sounds like you know of the lm-sensors.
[09:13] <flashingpumpkin> wileee, yeah
[09:13] <mladoux> cool, does it show volume controls, or is it still saying mixer not found?
[09:13] <Ellon> mladoux: but it's not muted
[09:13] <Ellon> yeah it showing
[09:13] <Ellon> ALSA plug-in
[09:13] <Ellon> i see sound bar moving
[09:13] <Ellon> But i dont hear any sound
[09:13] <Mega> Maybe it's too many questions from me today but.. somebody knows how to __copy full file path to a file in current directory to clipboard__?
[09:13] <mladoux> open up a cli and run alsamixer, check there, some older versions of pavucontrol will lie about your mute status.
[09:14] <mladoux> also, make sure it's got the right output selected.
[09:14] <Ellon> mladoux: cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[09:14] <mladoux> oi, there's your problem. it's just hooking into alsa, but alsa has no devices
[09:15] <mladoux> Sorry, Ellon, i'm at a loss. I'd try 15.04 and see if it's fixed there.
[09:15] <Ellon> ok
[09:15] <Ellon> thanks
[09:15] <mladoux> yeah, sorry I couldn't be more help
[09:15] <mladoux> sound can be a real pain when it doesn't work right.
[09:18] <DroWn> he needs to install alsa-utils
[09:20] <jose__> help
[09:21] <cfhowlett> !help | jose__
[09:22] <Ellon> DroWn: ok im installing now
[09:22] <Ellon> i installed
[09:23] <Ellon> still same
[09:23] <Ellon> Why my sound output device is called Dummy?
[09:24] <mas886> Can someone help me? Catalys control center only recognizes a 900  resolution on a 1080 screen
[09:26] <DroWn> you have Catalyst on linux?
[09:28] <mas886> Yeah DroWn
[09:31] <Ellon> mladoux: i fixed my sound with this:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse/* ; rm -r ~/.pulse*; ~/.config/pulse
[09:39] <mas886> Can anyone help me? Catalys control center only recognizes a 900  resolution on a 1080 screen
[09:43] <zaggynl> editing xorg.conf is a pain, makes me wish there was checkbox "enable unsupported resolutions" for drives that don't immediately enable those resolutions
[09:46] <mas886> zaggynl: I can't find xrog.conf on my computer
[09:46] <mas886> zaggynl : I can't find xrog.conf on my computer
[09:46] <ikonia> it doesn't exist by default
[09:46] <ikonia> you have to make it
[09:47] <cain-pol> hey, how do i activate desktop manager..
[09:47] <zaggynl> oh right, I forgot about that
[09:47] <ubuntu1rrrrr> hi
[09:47] <mas886> ikonia : Any help? Is the first time I use ATI on linux
[09:48] <cain-pol> can someone help me, i need to know how to Activate Desktop Manager....
[09:49] <wileee> cain-pol, what desktop and why?
[09:49] <ubuntu376> hi guys - cleaning up an old media server and I'm slightly concerned at the number of services running
[09:49] <ubuntu376> netstat -tulnp throws this up
[09:50] <ubuntu376> Active Internet connections (only servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State       PID/Program name tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:32469           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      5339/Plex DLNA Serv tcp        0      0 127.0.1.1:53            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      1278/dnsmasq     tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:21              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      1046/vsftpd      tcp
[09:50] <cain-pol> wileee, i've downloaded/installed desktop preferences and it cant open cause i need to Activate Desktop Manager
[09:50] <wileee> cain-pol, handful of desktops, which one?
[09:51] <cain-pol> homescreen dekstop..
[09:52] <cain-pol> wileee, HomeScreen Desktop?
[09:52] <wileee> cain-pol, I recognize none of what you are saying, I'm gonnancrash soon so others will be better help. ;)
[09:54] <cain-pol> How do i Acitvate/Enable Desktop Manager...
[09:56] <billyasa> hello john
[09:56] <wileee> cain-pol, Note the definitions of desktops here, there is no home one. http://www.howtogeek.com/163154/linux-users-have-a-choice-8-linux-desktop-environments/?PageSpeed=noscript
[09:56] <cain-pol> okay thanks
[09:56] <billyasa> joss
[09:56] <billyasa> sudo halt
[09:57] <cain-pol> wileee, Unity
[09:58] <wileee> cain-pol, Cool, if you are seeing the desktop as it should be compiz is running, that would be what your trying to start.
[09:58] <wileee> not called a desktop manager though
[09:59] <cain-pol> how do i take a snaphot...
[09:59] <wileee> cain-pol, Screenshot app or the prtc key
[09:59] <ubuntu376> Hi - what is the best way of identifying all of the open ports on my ubuntu machine?
[09:59] <wileee> !magebin | cain-pol
[10:00] <cain-pol> okay thanks
[10:00] <cain-pol> !magebin
[10:00] <wileee> !pastebin | cain-pol
[10:00] <billyasa> amazing gan
[10:00] <ubuntu376> netstat -tulnp throws this up https://filetea.me/t1sjKdv4xBtQ86MTLxwxVfZ8A
[10:00] <billyasa> what it?
[10:01] <billyasa> nmap
[10:02] <MarkyP_> hello
[10:02] <billyasa> hello
[10:02] <cain-pol> wileee, here is the link http://imgur.com/Mfur4cs
[10:02] <MarkyP_> i was upgrading ubuntu via terminal when my net went off
[10:02] <billyasa> so?
[10:02] <MarkyP_> how do i continue the upgrade? it says im in 12.04 still
[10:02] <MarkyP_> and wont let me upgrade
[10:03] <MarkyP_> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[10:03] <MarkyP_> No new release found
[10:03] <billyasa> sudo apat-get upgrade?
[10:03] <MarkyP_> but its still saying New release '14.04.1 LTS' available.
[10:03] <MarkyP_> Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it.
[10:03] <ubuntu376> http://imgur.com/rQcpGyp
[10:04] <billyasa> your connection is lost?
[10:04] <MarkyP_> yeah it was, my power went out at home
[10:04] <cain-pol> reconnect to the internet....
[10:05] <MarkyP_> i am, how do you think im speaking now
[10:05] <MarkyP_> im back in ssh now
[10:05] <cain-pol> lol...
[10:05] <billyasa> what the error?
[10:05] <MarkyP_> but its saying there is no new releases now?
[10:06] <billyasa> maybe you can use live cd guys
[10:06] <cain-pol> wileee, here is the snapshot of the erro http://imgur.com/Mfur4cs
[10:06] <wileee> cain-pol, Appears to maybe be a bug I see nothing on your app installed in 14.04.
[10:06] <ubuntu376> can you reccomend a tool to limit the connections coming from my 14.04 machine
[10:06] <ubuntu376> http://imgur.com/rQcpGyp there are waay too many for my liking at the moment
[10:06] <wileee> That popup seems to have other apps throwing it from what I can tell, n ot much info.
[10:06] <niilos> Hi all!
[10:07] <billyasa> nmap use
[10:07] <niilos> I got a wierd ll return on an ubuntu derivated
[10:07] <cain-pol> wileee, is cause im using the Ubuntu /sda/dev 14.04?
[10:07] <niilos> d????????? ? ? ? ?                  ?  ./
[10:08] <niilos> it's the same for all the files in my ~/Documents/ directory
[10:08] <billyasa> ssh use to continue upgrade ubuntu
[10:08] <niilos> In root, ll shows that theses files belongs to my user
[10:08] <wileee> cain-pol, Not sure I understand the question. Do you mean is 14.04 at fault?
[10:08] <billyasa> sudo screen -list
[10:09] <cain-pol> wileee, is their no way i could fix the problem?
[10:09] <billyasa> to back on upgrade list that lost
[10:09] <wileee> cain-pol, Not sure, here is what I looked with, the google. https://www.google.com/search?q=14.04+desktop+preferences&hl=en&site=webhp&gbv=1&sei=jMesVeitDIXXoATdhoCgDA
[10:10] <MarkyP_> billyasa thats exactly what i was needing, thanks
[10:10] <billyasa> ok marky
[10:11] <wileee> cain-pol, I don't see 'desktop preferences' in my 14.04, where is this from?
[10:12] <niilos> any idea about the issue causes?
[10:12] <cain-pol> wileee, where is what from?
[10:13] <wileee> cain-pol, desktop preferences  I read your [post that installing ythis and trying to start it is cause of popup.
[10:13] <MarkyP_> billyasa sorry to be a total idiot but how do i attach it
[10:13] <MarkyP_>  27624.ubuntu-release-upgrade-screen-window      (20/07/15 10:58:53)    (Detached)
[10:14] <billyasa> MarkyP_ if you write sudo screen -list you can know the session
[10:15] <billyasa> and you can recovery with command
[10:15] <BBLLCC> hi
[10:16] <billyasa> sudo screen -d -r (session name on screen list)
[10:16] <MarkyP_> yeah im back in now
[10:16] <MarkyP_> cheers guys
[10:16] <boomernang> Hi, I updated adobe-flashplugin the other day to 1:20150716.1-0trusty1 and now i cant watch twitch.tv streams. Anyone else have this problem?
[10:16] <MarkyP_> shit my self when the power went out lol
[10:17] <billyasa> hello marky
[10:17] <MarkyP_> hello billy
[10:17] <wileee> cain-pol, What ubuntu release are you using?
[10:17] <billyasa> and you can recovery with command
[10:17] <billyasa> sudo screen -d -r (session name on screen list)
[10:17] <MarkyP_> yeah im back on the upgrade screen
[10:17] <MarkyP_> thanks
[10:18] <billyasa> ok try it
[10:18] <Matt_teni> hello everyone, is there a command which list all the possible screen resolution my notebook supports on an external display?
[10:18] <MarkyP_> i did sudo screen -r
[10:18] <MarkyP_> and it attached it
[10:18] <ikonia> sudo sounds bad
[10:18] <MarkyP_> i tried it earlier without sudo and it didnt work
[10:18] <ikonia> the screen should be runing non-privileged
[10:19] <MarkyP_> ive disabled root and it makesme do sudo for evrthing?
[10:19] <billyasa> if you not try with sudo, you not as root
[10:19] <MarkyP_> im only using the server fr znc really anyway
[10:20] <wileee> cain-pol, Any way I found this. The bug on in that google search mentions pcman https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/quantal/pcmanfm/
[10:20] <billyasa> but you upgradeing with sudo command, right?
[10:20] <MarkyP_> yes
[10:20] <wileee> cain-pol, You would not have pcman in unity is all
[10:20] <MarkyP_> sudo do-release-upgrade
[10:20] <billyasa> so you as root guys :)
[10:20] <billyasa> anbd the power of and connection lost
[10:21] <MarkyP_> yeah my home power went out
[10:21] <billyasa> and you look the list session with sudo screen -list?
[10:21] <billyasa> what the list?
[10:21] <YellowGTO> Im trying to to use a 4TB drive but the instructions im reading say to selected create a new empty DOS partiton tabkle
[10:22] <YellowGTO> But the drive is too big to do that
[10:22] <YellowGTO> (trying to partition a drive with fdisk)
[10:23] <wileee> cain-pol, I think this is your bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/variety/+bug/1296560
[10:24] <MarkyP_> There is a screen on:
[10:24] <MarkyP_>         27624.ubuntu-release-upgrade-screen-window      (20/07/15 10:58:53)    (Attached)
[10:24] <MarkyP_> 1 Socket in /var/run/screen/S-root.
[10:24] <MarkyP_> thats the list now
[10:24] <MarkyP_> it was detached before i got the help :)
[10:26] <billyasa_> sorry the connection s lost , lol
[10:27] <MarkyP_> There is a screen on:
[10:27] <MarkyP_>         27624.ubuntu-release-upgrade-screen-window      (20/07/15 10:58:53)    (Attached)
[10:27] <MarkyP_> 1 Socket in /var/run/screen/S-root.
[10:33] <billyasa> hello
[10:33] <MarkyP_> billy u need a bnc? lol
[10:33] <touh> can somebody help me please i have an problem with ubuntu phone?
[10:35] <cain-pol> wileee, and how do i fix that BUG?
[10:36] <touh> help please
[10:36] <Guest34895> I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu 15.04, my contacts form GMail are not showing up; everything seams to be correctly setup in Online Accounts
[10:37] <Guest34895> Is there a known issue that prevents Empathy form showing contacts form GMail/Online Accounts?
[10:37] <Guest34895> Changing nick to QTC`
[10:38] <touh> ubuntu touch has a problem my resolution from tablet is to mall
[10:38] <touh> ubuntu touch has a problem my resolution from tablet is to sdmall
[10:38] <touh> ubuntu touch has a problem my resolution from tablet is to small
[10:39] <DJones> touh: It would probably be worth joining #ubuntu-touch and asking there about tablet/touch issues, thats the main support channel for that release
[10:40] <billyasa> anyone know django channel or developer for newbie, beginner, medium and expert learning? terimakasih :)
[10:41] <svetlana> channel, #django
[10:41] <billyasa> ok :)
[10:41] <svetlana> Web site, openhatch.org if memory serves. Could have type it wrong.
[10:42] <billyasa> sangkyu svetlana
[10:43] <cain-pol> can anyone help with this error http://imgur.com/Mfur4cs
[10:48] <cain-pol> thanks for your help guys...... :(
[10:48] <jayaura> folks can anybody please summarize all the places where somebody may mention then proxy settings? my apt in 12.04 seem to have a proxy setting when  updating, but its not mentioned in the /etc/apt/apt.conf  I have removed that file actually
[10:50] <grazia> ciao
[10:50] <yettie> ciao
[10:52] <cain-pol> can someone help me with this problem http://imgur.com/Mfur4cs
[10:53] <u0m3> hi. anyone here have experience in assigning USB devices (phone in my case) to Virtual Machines?
[11:10] <baash05> Hey guys
[11:10] <EriC^^> hey
[11:11] <baash05> I'm trying out the gnome build on a macbook pro
[11:11] <baash05> When I adjust the brightness it doesn't do anything
[11:11] <baash05> the screen brightness that is
[11:11] <baash05> kb brighness does work.
[11:11] <EriC^^> there might be a kernel parameter you can pass
[11:12] <EriC^^> which model do you have?
[11:12] <baash05> I am quite sure it's 12
[11:12] <baash05> less than a month old
[11:12] <toch> hi problem with pc
[11:13] <toch> so can u help me
[11:14] <baash05> toch: what is your issue?
[11:15] <baash05> EriC^^: what do you think the switch could be?  I'll dig around for the answer, but I need a hint.
[11:17] <EriC^^> baash05: try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/126441/brightness-controls-doesnt-work-on-a-macbook-pro-5-5-ubuntu-12-04-lts
[11:17] <blueingress> Hi, what is the best DNS cache solution for LAN users?
[11:20] <gbear14275> Hello, I have a large number of .txt files I want to move to a different folder.  I know I can select them all using 'mv *.txt' but what would I use for the destination path to preserve their names?   Is it just path/*.txt?
[11:21] <Eduard_Munteanu> gbear14275, mv *.txt /path/to/directory/
[11:21] <gbear14275> wait... reading the manpage... is it -t?
[11:21] <gbear14275> Eduard_Munteanu, awesome... thanks!
[11:27] <yuriy2045rus> Есть русские?
[11:27] <EriC^^> !ru | yuriy2045rus
[11:27] <yuriy2045rus> нужна помощь
[11:28] <yuriy2045rus> !ru
[11:28] <yuriy2045rus> Есть вопрос по поводу kxstudio
[11:28] <billyasa> what you write
[11:28] <yuriy2045rus> Как мне добавить ее в репозитории?
[11:29] <yuriy2045rus> или ее ропизотории?
[11:30] <Ben64> Вы должны спросить kxstudio людей, это не является частью Ubuntu
[11:40] <dragos123> does anybody know why lxde shows gray schuares on the screen?
[11:47] <checkmaster> hi guys - I have a headphone with integrated mic - how can i get both the headphone and mic to work from just a headphone port?
[11:47] <checkmaster> just using headphone jack*
[11:47] <kvitozev> Hey, guys! I know it's a noob question, but how can I recompile ffmpeg on Ubuntu with OpenSSL? :)
[11:48] <teward> checkmaster: you likely can't.  Such jacks that accept the integrated mic usually have a third contact
[11:48] <teward> checkmaster: when you look at the 3.5mm plug on the end of the headphones with integrated mic, does it have three strips on it
[11:49] <teward> kvitozev: download the ffmpeg source code, follow its instructions for compiling, and during the `./configure` step add `--with-openssl` perhaps?  Make sure you've installed the `build-essential` package, and `libssl-dev` packages
[11:49] <checkmaster> yes it has 3 stripes
[11:50] <checkmaster> im using bose quietcomfort 20
[11:50] <teward> checkmaster: and your computer has a single headphones port, not a combined port?
[11:50] <checkmaster> thanks for assisting teward
[11:50] <checkmaster> it has 2 ports, a green one for audio and a pink one for mic
[11:51] <teward> checkmaster: it's almost 100% likely that the audio port only accepts two of those three bands - i.e. L&R sound
[11:51] <checkmaster> you're probably right...it's an old cheap computer
[11:51] <teward> checkmaster: the third band is the one for the mic.  You see the same problem with Apple earbuds which have the in-line mic.  It's designed for use in jacks that support both audio out AND audio in, such as phones and tablets.
[11:52] <teward> checkmaster: then i'm almost 100% certain that's the case - given that AFAIK for the most part phones and tablets support the in-line functionality rather than 'computers' in general (that may be different with the modern computer, but don't quote me on it)
[11:52] <teward> s/modern computer/most modern computers/
[11:54] <kvitozev> @teward, thanks! :)
[11:54] <checkmaster> that sucks :/
[11:55] <checkmaster> so now it looks like i have to buy some kind of adaptor to make it work?
[11:55] <checkmaster> i wonder if those airplane adaptors might work? - the spacing of my jacks is similar
[12:10] <professorscience> Hi everyone. I have a Dell XPS 13 with Ubuntu 15.04 and I'm having a problem where I can't move the mouse without engaging the 'tap to click'. So for example if I want to click on a song above my current cursor position I can't as when I try to move my cursor towards it the song listing scrolls away. Nothing in the default touchpad settings or gpointing-device-settings makes any improvement without turning off the touchpad altogether.
[12:10] <erkules> ahoi running 15.04 I would like to use systemd-networkd from the start and disable any usage of /etc/network. Is there a howto how to achieve this?
[12:16] <BBLLCC> hi
[12:16] <BBLLCC> is there any way to get rid of my crappy windows only firmware and get freeware instead? Im talking about bios
[12:24] <somsip> BBLLCC: that's nothing to do with #ubuntu
[12:32] <mika_> hi all. i have Lubuntu and i added LXLE PPA to my distro, but how i can "upgrade" my lxde to be now lxle :)
[12:39] <FriskyANon> YO
[12:39] <FriskyANon> :D
[12:39] <FriskyANon> I need some help?
[12:40] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:43] <codekK> hey, few days ago i ask for help cause i cant boot my ubuntu on external HDD, someone here said me that maybe the HDD was broken. I use HDDRegenerator for test the hard disk and after about 8hours (500gb disk) it finisehd and no errors found. Then i tried to install this external disk in my laptop and sorprise! it works and ubuntu boot fine, now i uninstall it and put the HDD into external case and again same error. I get into initram
[12:44] <codekK> In a SafeMode boot i can see some messages like: Missing modules (cat /proc/modules;  ls /dev) \n ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx does no t exist. Dropping to a shell!
[12:44] <codekK> Some help???
[12:44] <cynda_moore> codekK: When you install Ubuntu, you have to select a device to install the bootloader on.
[12:45] <cynda_moore> codekK: It's possible the bootloader was installed on your internal laptop drive
[12:45] <codekK> cynda_moore: the bootloader its installed in this external HDD
[12:45] <codekK> cynda_moore: no really
[12:45] <codekK> i uninstall my disk from laptop
[12:45] <codekK> and install only this external disk in laptop
[12:45] <codekK> and works
[12:45] <codekK> Grub boot
[12:45] <codekK> and system boot
[12:46] <codekK> And when i use it on external case the grub shows up i select ubuntu and after some seconds the error and iinitramfs console
[12:46] <mika_> lxde lubuntu doesn't have alternatives command so i can't test if i could switch from there the LXLE on hmm.
[12:55] <RonWhoCares> I've tried creating a link on my desktop to a .sh
[12:56] <codekK> hey, few days ago i ask for help cause i cant boot my ubuntu on external HDD, someone here said me that maybe the HDD was broken. I use HDDRegenerator for test the hard disk and after about 8hours (500gb disk) it finisehd and no errors found. Then i tried to install this external disk in my laptop and sorprise! it works and ubuntu boot fine, now i uninstall it and put the HDD into external case and again same error. I get into initram
[12:56] <codekK> In a SafeMode boot i can see some messages like: Missing modules (cat /proc/modules;  ls /dev) \n ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx does no t exist. Dropping to a shell!
[12:57] <ioria> codekK, have you tried another disk in that case ?
[12:58] <EriC^^> codekK: it might be that it can't see the hdd using that hub or connector or something
[12:58] <EriC^^> codekK: did you install ubuntu while using that setup on that pc?
[13:02] <rj_> hello I have a simple problem to which i am unable to find the solution. so help me if you can
[13:02] <EriC^^> rj_: what's the problem?
[13:02] <rj_> my scandisk Pendrive has turned read only
[13:02] <rj_> i tried formatting it from terminal didn't work. i tried  (-type f -exec chmod 666 {} \;) as suggest in one forum didnt work and i even tried dosfsck -a
[13:03] <rj_> non worked
[13:03] <EriC^^> rj_: does it have a write protect switch?
[13:03] <cain-pol> can someone help me with this problem http://imgur.com/Mfur4cs
[13:03] <rj_> if you mean physical switch then no
[13:03] <EriC^^> rj_: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:04] <EriC^^> cain-pol: when do you get that error?
[13:04] <rj_> ok wht will that do?
[13:04] <EriC^^> rj_: list the disks and partitions
[13:05] <cain-pol> EriC ive installed someething called desktop preferences and when i try to open it
[13:05] <EriC^^> how did you install it?
[13:05] <cain-pol> via Ubuntu Software Center
[13:06] <EriC^^> ok
[13:06] <EriC^^> did you try logging out and back in maybe?
[13:06] <cain-pol> yep ive restarted my pc, changed OS
[13:08] <thiefbash> Noob question: How can I find out the name of my USB stick in Ubuntu? /dev/sdf, /dev/sdd ...
[13:09] <EriC^^> sudo parted -l
[13:09] <rj_> or df
[13:09] <cain-pol> Eric is their no way i can fix my problem?
[13:09] <EriC^^> it has to alreadt be mounted for df, but yeah
[13:09] <thiefbash> thx!
[13:10] <Guest15175> ciao a tutti
[13:10] <Guest15175> hello
[13:10] <cain-pol> hey
[13:10] <Guest15175> !list
[13:10] <EriC^^> cain-pol: i dunno how, hold on and somebody might know
[13:11] <cain-pol> Eric^^, okay thanks man
[13:14] <rj_> ok eric
[13:14] <rj_> so back to my problem
[13:14] <rj_> it listed it as read only
[13:16] <rj_> http://imgur.com/4EN6u6w
[13:18] <thiefbash> what did I do wrong? firefox is running (shown in taskmanager) but the window is not showing (not even in the task list)
[13:20] <rj_> try restarting thiefbash and see if it still happens
[13:20] <thiefbash> will try it thx
[13:23] <cain-pol> eric anyone  you know?
[13:28] <dreamcat4> on unity, can't find a decent timer app (egg timer)
[13:28] <EriC^^> egg timer?
[13:29] <mas886> Hey, someone knows how to save the xrandr configuration? Because each time I log in I have to enter the "new mode" commands
[13:29] <EriC^^> mas886: you should make an xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 usually
[13:29] <EriC^^> !xorg.conf
[13:30] <teward> dreamcat4: Do you mean a count-down timer that you can set a specific value to count down from before setting off an alert or such?
[13:31] <EriC^^> dreamcat4: sleep <time> && mplayer /path/to/song
[13:31] <EriC^^> best timer ever
[13:31] <dreamcat4> teward: yes. but i don't have sound on this laptop (and music may/may not already be playing)
[13:31] <dreamcat4> (i mean laptop = earphones)
[13:32] <dreamcat4> what i really need is something that flashes / interrupts the unity desktop (a top overlay)
[13:33] <EriC^^> dreamcat4: sleep <time> && notify-send Alert Something here
[13:34] <EriC^^> dreamcat4: try sleep <time> && notify-send -t 0 Alert Something here
[13:34] <EriC^^> so it sticks to the screen, or use -t <time in milliseconds> to keep it to the right for how long
[13:34] <dreamcat4> right. thanks EriC^^
[13:35] <dreamcat4> that's much closer to what i was looking for
[13:36] <EriC^^> dreamcat4: ah the -t 0 shows it in the background though, so ignore that
[13:38] <dreamcat4> EriC^^: i really need it in the foreground AND not to dismiss itself (otherwise may be missed / not seen)
[13:38] <mas886> ubottu :  I don't have xorg.sonf on my folders :/ And that page you sent is not working, blank page
[13:39] <mas886> ubottu is a bot?
[13:39] <mas886> So yes
[13:39] <ikonia> yes, it's a bot
[13:39] <mas886> Well, the page it sent to me isn't working
[13:39] <ikonia> mas886: what page ?
[13:39] <mas886> One with xorg.conf files
[13:39] <ikonia> whats the URL
[13:40] <mas886> ikonia :  I don't know I rebooted
[13:40] <ikonia> then you can't say it's not working
[13:40] <ikonia> if you don't even known the URL
[13:40] <mas886> >:(
[13:40] <mas886> http://ubottu.com/y/
[13:40] <ikonia> thats not an xorg url
[13:40] <mas886> Here you go, no needing to be so agresive
[13:40] <EriC^^> dreamcat4: you could use notify-send -t 30000000 Alert Something , it would display for about an hour, but if something else uses notify-send like the wireless or so it could be missed
[13:40] <mas886> http://ubottu.com/y/ati
[13:40] <ikonia> no-one is being agressive
[13:40] <mas886> it was something like that
[13:40] <ikonia> thats not a URL
[13:41] <ikonia> you're just making up random URL's
[13:41] <EriC^^> dreamcat4: if you want xcowsay is fun, sudo apt-get install xcowsay
[13:41] <mas886> but it was redirecting me to that other
[13:41] <mas886> ikonia stop
[13:41] <ikonia> mas886: what was the URL you where trying to hit ?
[13:41] <EriC^^> you could have a cow pop up and say it done and keep displaying it
[13:41] <mas886> If you don't want to help stay away
[13:41] <ikonia> I'm trying to help by finding out the URL you are hitting
[13:41] <mas886> I don't want to go to any URL
[13:41] <ikonia> if our docs are not working - we need to know to fix it
[13:41] <dreamcat4> EriC^^: there's this too --> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/configurable-notification-bubbles-for.html
[13:41] <ikonia> mas886: you do - you want the xorg one that has the info on your looking for
[13:42] <mas886> Well, so I don't know what exact page because it was redirecting me
[13:42] <ikonia> mas886: what was the URL you hit that redirected you
[13:43] <mas886> I don't know, because I restarted my irc client but it was an extension of "ubottu.com/y/..."
[13:43] <dreamcat4> EriC^^: thanks for 'xcowsay'... it seems to be just what i need
[13:43] <mas886> I don't know the extact ikonia
[13:43] <ikonia> mas886: ubottu normally doesn't give out ubottu.com URL's
[13:43] <mas886> ikonia : okay I'm crazy, I invented this url
[13:44] <ikonia> ok
[13:44] <mas886> As I said, nothing about urls is my problem
[13:44] <ikonia> well it is
[13:44] <EriC^^> dreamcat4: no problem, use xcowsay -t 3600 Something to display for an hour
[13:44] <ikonia> if the URL that has the info you want is wrong and ubottu is giving it out
[13:44] <mas886> If you want to solve the problem, don't complain with me, he have me that URL
[13:45] <ikonia> mas886: I don't see ubottu actually ever giving you a URL in the logs
[13:46] <mas886> Okay, as I said I don't want to discuss this anymore
[13:46] <ikonia> mas886: was it this one http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd
[13:46] <mas886> yes was that
[13:46] <ikonia> ok - I'll get that URL fixed, thank you
[13:46] <dreamcat4> EriC^^: the best cmd is: xcowsay --cow-size=large --time=0  moo
[13:47] <dreamcat4> (it will stay on the screen until it is clicked)
[13:47] <dreamcat4> ... and multiple notifications remain on the screen simultaneously. it's perfect.
[13:47] <EriC^^> dreamcat4: it disappears here after a couple seconds
[13:47] <EriC^^> i like the moo though :D
[13:47] <dreamcat4> EriC^^: mine doesn't with '-t 0'
[13:48] <EriC^^> ok, cool
[13:48] <dreamcat4> stays on screen
[13:48] <gcl5cp> after remove/disable an external repository, how do i remove all its package and cache list?
[13:48] <dreamcat4> EriC^^: try  of them together
[13:48] <EriC^^> i did, i tried moo too
[13:48] <EriC^^> in case it was like a special word or something :D
[13:49] <EriC^^> i guess it's compiled differently here or something
[13:50] <dreamcat4> EriC^^: i am on 15.04 (unity desktop)
[13:50] <EriC^^> oh ok, 14.04 here
[13:50] <dreamcat4> $ xcowsay --version
[13:50] <dreamcat4> xcowsay 1.3
[13:52] <dreamcat4> EriC^^: what's amazing is that nobody ever suggest that program on stack* / ubuntu answers. i searched everywhere
[13:54] <babysonfire> i downloaded new GPU drivers and decided to build a Ubuntu/trusty package before i installed them; I'm wondering why it takes so long to build your own packages.
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> babysonfire: define long?
[13:55] <babysonfire> i waited 10 minutes and the build sat still at 0%. I left if for a couple of hours and came back and finished
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> babysonfire: couple hours doesnt sound right indeed
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> babysonfire: can you tell us how you compiled exactly?
[13:57] <babysonfire> sh amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13-4-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/trusty
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> babysonfire: no info here about being 'slow' https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[13:59] <ikonia> as that is a binary package you'd bask ask amd
[14:00] <ikonia> we have no idea what it does, but I suspect DNS look ups will be a likley "easy" candidate for slow performance when referencing a package build
[14:00] <ikonia> or downloading deps in the background
[14:01] <whollyjordan> I'm learning the basics of running a linux server (ubuntu.) I want to get feedback on whether it would be considered irresponsible of me to setup and manage websites on a linode.com VPS? No email server. Just a web server. I have a tech background but not in servers. No idea if this is considered a big no no or not for beginners?
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> !server | whollyjordan
[14:03] <ikonia> whollyjordan: linnode is just a hardware provider, why would it be "good/bad" ?
[14:03] <ikonia> if you're not sure about the hardware provider then the answer is "no"
[14:06] <thebwt> whollyjordan: that is perfectly acceptable, unless you plan on storing hippa or PCI requried docs
[14:07] <thebwt> it's a shared (virt) environment, so compliance stuff (CC's SSN's) would be 'unacceptable'
[14:07] <thebwt> beyond that, do what you need!
[14:07] <ikonia> if you have to ask that question though - you should not be doing it
[14:07] <thebwt> ikonia: I deal with people every day who do not realize that
[14:07] <ikonia> then they should not be doing it
[14:08] <thebwt> but that knowledge isn't vacuous. Hence me politely informing.
[14:08] <sinussnottips> how do i get ubuntu to 'mount' a shared smb folder everytime it starts up?
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> !samba | sinussnottips
[14:09] <sinussnottips> cool, thx
[14:16] <cain-pol> hey eric
[14:20] <cain-pol> can some one help me with this problem  http://imgur.com/MNLUogc
[14:22] <ikonia> cain-pol: what are you doing to get that error ?
[14:23] <cain-pol> ikonia, ive downloaded desktop preference and when i try to opend it that error pop ups
[14:24] <ikonia> downloading desktop preferences ?
[14:24] <cain-pol> yes
[14:24] <ikonia> what does that mean ?
[14:24] <cain-pol> its something in Ubuntu Sofware Center
[14:25] <ioria> cain-pol, do you have for any chance pcmanfm , or other file-manager installed ?
[14:25] <ikonia> cain-pol: what is the name of the package you are downloading
[14:25] <cain-pol> ikonia, the package is desktop preferences
[14:25] <cain-pol> iroia, i dont no?
[14:26] <ikonia> cain-pol: that doesn't seem like a real package name from software center
[14:26] <cain-pol> try playonlinux?
[14:26] <ikonia> playonlinux ? thats not a desktop preferences package
[14:26] <ikonia> thats a windows abstraction layer
[14:27] <Exagone313> Hello, I actually use git with user git and the repo in /git. I want to install gitolite, but I don't understand what .pub file it needs. I have some public keys in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys, I pick one? And can I administrate gitolite directly with the git user? I see that I have to clone a repository after the installation, I really don't understand... Thanks for helping
[14:28] <cain-pol> i can remember downloading it on ubuntu sofware center
[14:28] <daftykins> Exagone313: have a look for a git channel, possibly even #git or ##git with the bot alis. type !alis for more info
[14:28] <ikonia> cain-pol: you need to find the name of the package you are downloading please
[14:28] <ikonia> cain-pol: that way we can actually help you
[14:28] <OerHeks> Softwarecenter has a history
[14:28] <Exagone313> Also, there is a gitolite package, should I use it?
[14:31] <tokam> Is evolution still a supported mail client?
[14:31] <cain-pol> im on history
[14:31] <OerHeks> tokam, sure
[14:31] <tokam> I found this issues in my qmail log: http://pastie.org/private/fmygbdhyhmcwq5bj9v3aog
[14:32] <tokam> and these bugs but I am not an expert to know if they are related: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/commits-list/2010-April/msg08374.html
[14:32] <tokam> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/commits-list/2014-June/msg00175.html
[14:32] <tokam> In #qmail I had this conversation
[14:32] <tokam> (16:26:40) Dakon: which client do you use? Outlook?
[14:32] <tokam> (16:26:52) tokam: evolution
[14:32] <tokam> (16:27:07) Dakon: no idea if that has CRLF bugs, but who knows ;)
[14:32] <daftykins> don't paste.
[14:32] <Synx|hm> Anybody know if there is a ppa for freeradius 3 that has packages for Vivid?
[14:33] <en1gma> just want to tell everyone i got opencl working on my i7 4770k cpu-gpu. doubled my scores in pyrit-opencl
[14:33] <en1gma> https://code.google.com/p/pyrit/wiki/Installation   scroll to bottom. thats me
[14:33] <OerHeks> en1gma,  :-)
[14:34] <en1gma> used that beignet opencl
[14:34] <en1gma> dude. i so tired. pulled an all nighter
[14:34] <en1gma> screwed up (almost yet another ssd)
[14:34] <en1gma> got it back with ubuntu live cd and chroot and update-grub
[14:38] <dsodsi> hey
[14:38] <en1gma> sup
[14:38] <dsodsi> how can we see the history of session login logout ?
[14:38] <dsodsi> how can we see the history of session login logout times ?
[14:39] <daftykins> dsodsi: "last" ?
[14:39] <en1gma> daftykins nice command there. never even knew it existed
[14:40] <daftykins> en1gma: please stop treating this as a chat channel, it is support only - general chat can be had over in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:40] <dsodsi> daftykins, or the history of logging logout to the sessions
[14:46] <TechMonger> what is the best/most popular terminal text editor? i have used gedit and vim. I am trying to find one to stick with.
[14:47] <jpds> TechMonger: That's a religious question.
[14:47] <TechMonger> lol
[14:47] <rory-> !best
[14:48] <jpds> TechMonger: http://www.manuelmagic.me/geek/texteditors/
[14:48] <aktx> TechMonger, id go with vim
[14:48] <jamesd_> vi is the most popular because its everywhere, i hate  vi, but i know more vi than some vi lovers.
[14:48] <en1gma> daftykins ok
[14:49] <TechMonger> vi is different from vim?
[14:49] <Fuchs> technically yes
[14:49] <aktx> vim is vi improved
[14:49] <Fuchs> on most distributions these days vi is just a link to vim, without even putting it into vi mode
[14:49] <aktx> jamesd_, im a vim lover, you know more about vim than me? ;)
[14:49] <TechMonger> i do like vim. it seems very powerful
[14:49] <jamesd_> aktx: quick copy the current line, and duplicate it.
[14:49] <aktx> yy, p
[14:50] <aktx> ;D
[14:50] <TechMonger> lol
[14:50] <jamesd_> aktx: i didn'
[14:50] <jamesd_> aktx: i didn't say all vim lovers just more a few.
[14:50] <aktx> lol i c
[14:50] <aktx> yeah, vim is hard though
[14:50] <aktx> been using it 5 years, im still learning~
[14:50] <aktx> i dont consider myself an expert :(
[14:51] <aktx> maybe a solid moderate
[14:51] <jamesd_> the problem is some people use it for decades and never learn more than  movement and saves...
[14:51] <jamesd_> you mean i can search for a string?   /
[14:51] <mirela666> true
[14:52] <jamesd_> or copy and replace in the full document, no one ever told me that.
[14:52] <mirela666> you can do search/replace vith vim
[14:52] <mirela666> with*
[14:53] <jamesd_> yeap  :,$s/this/for that/g
[14:54] <zmaslfasnlf> Why does Ubuntu use PPAs instead of backports when backports are safer and better according to #debian?
[14:54] <daftykins> debian doesn't write the law
[14:56] <zmaslfasnlf> What are the merits of PPAs vs Backports?
[14:56] <jpds> zmaslfasnlf: Because some people just want to make packages available rather than go through the whole backports process
[14:56] <jpds> zmaslfasnlf: Either way, neither are supported.
[14:57] <BluesKaj> zmaslfasnlf,  ppas contain earlier versions of some, but not all, packages that eventually make into the backports
[14:58] <zmaslfasnlf> So if I want a stable system with a few select pieces of upgraded softwares, using LTS with backports enabled is a good idea?
[14:58] <zmaslfasnlf> Maybe just backport Firefox?
[14:59] <zmaslfasnlf> And maybe backport Libreoffice?
[15:00] <jpds> zmaslfasnlf: Backports doesn't mean that the latest software is there
[15:01] <BluesKaj> zmaslfasnlf,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[15:01] <jpds> zmaslfasnlf: Firefox latest is already in -updates
[15:01] <jpds> zmaslfasnlf: LibreOffice is a much bigger beast, highly doubt that it'd be put into -backports
[15:01] <jpds> zmaslfasnlf: You have to ask yourself: Do I really NEED to have the latest software features?
[15:02] <zmaslfasnlf> jpds:Sometimes, for example I need the latest nVidia graphics driver
[15:02] <jpds> zmaslfasnlf: That's far different from LibreOffice.
[15:03] <zmaslfasnlf> jpds:LibreOffice so I can be productive when working
[15:12] <rainbowwarrior> hi does the " HP ENVY 4507 All-in-One Wireless Inkjet Printer " work with Ubuntu 14.04 or higher please ?
[15:14] <daftykins> rainbowwarrior: consult HP's support page for an answer to that.
[15:16] <rainbowwarrior> daftykins its ok ubuntu 14.10 + supports it and it works with the hplip drivers for linux :)
[15:16]  * rainbowwarrior hugs google and linux :)
[15:16] <daftykins> rainbowwarrior: i didn't need to know that :)
[15:17] <rainbowwarrior> daftykins true but maybe some other beings do or even aliens lol
[15:17] <Matt_teni> Does anyone know how to find out what is the max external resolution my computer supports?
[15:17] <daftykins> Matt_teni: what graphics card, or CPU?
[15:17] <daftykins> (i.e. what is driving your screen?)
[15:18] <Matt_teni> Nvidia 9700M GTS
[15:18] <zmaslfasnlf> Can Ubuntu LTS get the latest nVidia graphics drivers with backports repo?
[15:18] <Matt_teni> according to the manufacturer site of the notebooks, it says 2048x1200 something
[15:18] <Matt_teni> but I really want to know if it can handle 1440p
[15:19] <jpds> zmaslfasnlf: The nVidia stuff won't be in the backports repo
[15:19] <daftykins> Matt_teni: 2048x1536 even? what output types does it have, VGA? HDMI?
[15:19] <Matt_teni> zmaslfasnlf, not sure what you mean by backports but they should be available through additional drivers
[15:19] <Matt_teni> not sure, let me check
[15:19] <Matt_teni> notebook does have an hdmi output
[15:20] <Matt_teni> daftykins, max. resolution : 2,048 x 1,536
[15:20] <Matt_teni> max. refresh rate : 85 Hz
[15:20] <Matt_teni> non-interlaced resolution with max. refresh rate : 1,280 x 1,024
[15:20] <Matt_teni> from http://www.toshiba.eu/discontinued-products/qosmio-f50-126/
[15:20] <zmaslfasnlf> Matt_teni:I mean will the nVidia drivers be constantly updated throughout the LTS lfiecycle?
[15:20] <Matt_teni> is there a command in ubuntu to find out? i tried xrandr but it give only res
[15:20] <zmaslfasnlf> Matt_teni:I always need the latest nVidia drivers
[15:21] <jpds> zmaslfasnlf: Pretty much, otherwise things break and people complain
[15:21] <daftykins> Matt_teni: yeah so that's a VGA res, not hugely relevant if you're going to use a digital output.
[15:21] <marcel_> help
[15:21] <EriC^^> marcel_: with what?
[15:21] <daftykins> marcel_: help us to help you, start by asking a question
[15:21] <zmaslfasnlf> jpds:So the LTS nVidia driver isn't some old one then? It is the latest one and when a new driver version is released Ubuntu will upgrade to it automatically?
[15:22] <daftykins> Matt_teni: so apparently you have HDMI on there?
[15:22] <jpds> zmaslfasnlf: In theory, yes, I only have intel graphics here though
[15:22] <Matt_teni> zmaslfasnlf, they will be latest stable release from nvidia directly for the distro and card. e.g. my latest is on windows was 301. but on ubuntu its 340.
[15:22] <Matt_teni> daftykins, yes i have hdmi
[15:22] <zmaslfasnlf> jpds:You should get a GTX970
[15:22] <Matt_teni> how do you know that's vga daftykins it doesn't say on the site.
[15:22] <zmaslfasnlf> Matt_teni:Why is your Windows using the old version?
[15:23] <zmaslfasnlf> Matt_teni:Is there a delay between nVidia releasing the driver and Ubuntu uploading it to its repo?
[15:23] <daftykins> Matt_teni: experience. 2048x1536 is the max resolution VGA ever did, it's also higher than both single link DVI (1920x1200 maximum) and dual-link DVI (2560x1600 (i think)) maximum ever did
[15:23] <Matt_teni> zmaslfasnlf, i dont know about it.
[15:23] <zmaslfasnlf> popey:
[15:23] <popey> zmaslfasnlf: ?
[15:24] <zmaslfasnlf> popey: Is there a delay between nVidia releasing the driver and Ubuntu uploading it to its repo?
[15:24] <popey> yes
[15:24] <zmaslfasnlf> popey:How long?
[15:24] <zmaslfasnlf> A day?
[15:24] <zmaslfasnlf> A week?
[15:24] <zmaslfasnlf> A month?
[15:24] <zmaslfasnlf> I don't want to wait more than a week
[15:24] <daftykins> "when it's done."
[15:24] <popey> as long as it takes for a developer to create / update the packaging
[15:24] <popey> I don't believe it's a specific unit of time
[15:24] <zmaslfasnlf> popey:How long has that taken for the past 10 releases?
[15:24] <Matt_teni> daftykins, so you think my the computer support much higher external display then the one shown on the site?
[15:24] <daftykins> zmaslfasnlf: chasing driver version updates is a pointless exercise
[15:25] <zmaslfasnlf> daftykins:wtf
[15:25] <popey> zmaslfasnlf: not information I have to hand
[15:25] <zmaslfasnlf> daftykins:I NEED the latest graphics drivers
[15:25] <zmaslfasnlf> daftykins:I'm playing CS:GO at 300FPS
[15:25] <daftykins> zmaslfasnlf: don't be ridiculous
[15:25] <zmaslfasnlf> daftykins:?
[15:25] <popey> zmaslfasnlf: you can build them yourself.
[15:26] <jpds> zmaslfasnlf: Do you pay the developer that's going about preparing all the updates and making sure that they work for everyone?
[15:26] <OerHeks> Latestdriver .. do you also need the latest compatible dependencies ??
[15:26] <daftykins> Matt_teni: no, your link to the site doesn't even clearly state the video outputs your model has, unless i'm being blind
[15:26] <zmaslfasnlf> jpds:Is that a rhetorical question, or do you think I might actually do that?
[15:26] <popey> zmaslfasnlf: the packaging is in the ppa / repo, you could grab the binary from upstream nvidia and build a deb package yourself to test
[15:27] <daftykins> Matt_teni: if it has VGA and HDMI, then your max will be 2048x1536 over VGA and 1920x1200 over HDMI
[15:27] <Matt_teni> it doesn't. daftykins just 'max external"
[15:27] <Matt_teni> i will be using HDMI only
[15:27] <zmaslfasnlf> popey:Or just use Windows so I don't have to do all that
[15:27] <popey> zmaslfasnlf: ok then.
[15:27] <jpds> zmaslfasnlf: You're more than free to do that too
[15:27] <Matt_teni> oh i guess it wont support 2,560 x 1,440 daftykins ..
[15:27] <daftykins> Matt_teni: not over HDMI no
[15:28] <zmaslfasnlf> All I wanted to know was the average release delay of nVidia driver packages omg
[15:28] <daftykins> Matt_teni: but you'd need to tell me specifically which output types your laptop has
[15:28] <popey> zmaslfasnlf: sure, and as I said, not data we have to hand
[15:28] <popey> zmaslfasnlf: you want me to stop working on other things to find out this data for you?
[15:28] <Matt_teni> daftykins, my laptop as both 'vga' and HDMI output. VGA i'm assumin what the old crt monitor used. hdmi the new breeds of monitors
[15:28] <popey> zmaslfasnlf: (you could find that data yourself btw)
[15:28] <Matt_teni> what i want is to run a single 1440p monitor daftykins
[15:29] <Guest60235> Hey I need some help. I want to know if there is an utility so that I can backup all my ubuntu  files. And later when I install using that image. I will get the as it is now??
[15:29] <daftykins> Matt_teni: yeah you won't be able to run that at the correct resolution
[15:29] <zmaslfasnlf> popey:yes
[15:29] <popey> zmaslfasnlf: not happening.
[15:29] <Matt_teni> damn :(
[15:29] <zmaslfasnlf> popey:Please
[15:29] <Guest60235> which utility???
[15:29] <zmaslfasnlf> popey:I'll show you a pic of my Korean gf
[15:29] <popey> zmaslfasnlf: that's not appropriate.
[15:29] <Fuchs> let us not go there.
[15:33] <zmaslfasnlf> popey:I just want Ubuntu to be my gaming OS, but there are so many problems!
[15:33] <popey> zmaslfasnlf: sure, I understand, but someone needs to do this work. so be patient, or do the work yourself. Simple
[15:34] <OerHeks> In the time you spend here, you could build them yourself.
[15:34] <daftykins> zmaslfasnlf: i think it's ridiculous to hamstring yourself by choice of OS when you know that that OS is behind in the things you want to use it for
[15:34] <zmaslfasnlf> daftykins:No, it's because I hate dualbooting
[15:34] <zmaslfasnlf> Don't want to boot into Windows and lose all my productivity just to play a game
[15:34] <daftykins> zmaslfasnlf: that is not a fitting response to what i just said
[15:35] <zmaslfasnlf> Can't do any work whilst queueing for a match
[15:35] <zmaslfasnlf> Because Windoze kills my productivity
[15:35] <zmaslfasnlf> Windoze doesn't even have a tiling window manager
[15:35] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[15:36] <zmaslfasnlf> So whilst queueing for my CS:GO match, I can't tile my windows!
[15:36] <zmaslfasnlf> yay home time, bye everyone!
[15:36] <daftykins> excellent.
[15:36] <Kully3xf> ^
[15:50] <poorUser> Hi people, i've a bad internet connection, but unfortunally the best aviable in my country, when i'm connected with wifi NetworkManager continuosly turn off the wifi connection
[15:50] <poorUser> this is more problematic than the bad connection too, there is a way to force NM to stay connected?
[16:03] <ThePendulum> I just installed UBuntu 14.04 on a laptop, and it's talking to me
[16:03] <zaggynl> how social of it
[16:03] <zaggynl> what is it saying?
[16:03] <ThePendulum> I don't know if I hit a hotkey or something. Universal Access shows nothing
[16:03] <ThePendulum> zaggynl: if only I understood any of it, lol
[16:06] <OerHeks> ThePendulum, talking .. sounds like orca screenreader
[16:07] <ThePendulum> OerHeks: ah yes
[16:07] <ThePendulum> time to throw that off
[16:07] <OerHeks> insert + Q to stop orca
[16:09] <ThePendulum> OerHeks: cheers
[16:17] <meLon> Any ideas on how to get `base64.h`?  "fatal error: base64.h: No such file or directory"
[16:18] <jpds> meLon: sudo apt-get install apt-file -y; sudo apt-file update; apt-file search base64.h
[16:18] <meLon> Thanks jpds .  Will look
[16:22] <kakashi___> hey i used sudo pip install yappi but while i am running pyretic it is still giving error:No module named yappi
[16:22] <BBLLCC> can i, on thunderbird, arrange the email providers by alphabetical order?
[16:23] <cfhowlett> BBLLCC, not that I know, but #mozilla would be the place to ask
[16:25] <codekK> hey, few days ago i ask for help cause i cant boot my ubuntu on external HDD, someone here said me that maybe the HDD was broken. I use HDDRegenerator for test the hard disk and after about 8hours (500gb disk) it finisehd and no errors found. Then i tried to install this external disk in my laptop and sorprise! it works and ubuntu boot fine, now i uninstall it and put the HDD into external case and again same error. I get into initram
[16:25] <codekK> I can see some messages like: Missing modules (cat /proc/modules;  ls /dev) \n ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx does no t exist. Dropping to a shell!
[16:26] <meLon> BBLLCC: The only thing I know you can do is MANUALLY SORT THEM by editing some configuration XML file.
[16:26] <BBLLCC> jesus...
[16:27] <squinty> meLon,  fwiw you can also use the following to search for files inside packages etc   http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[16:28] <ePax> I need to automout USB to USB serial on boot to one and same ttyUSBXXX..  What rule do i need to make in udev
[16:28] <meLon> squinty: My issue was that many packages contained the file, but I needed the one that put it in `/usr/include` vs `/usr/include/APP-NAME`.  I learned it was an NSS package I needed earlier.
[16:28] <meLon> So, jpds's solution was ideal
[16:30] <squinty> BBLLCC,  there is also the following official irc channel for thunderbird    irc.mozilla.org   #thunderbird
[16:32] <BBLLCC> strange... i can download addons for thunderbird, but not for firefox
[16:33] <squinty> melon:  fwiw    http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=base64.h&mode=exactfilename&suite=trusty&arch=any
[16:33] <the_drow> I'm trying to install the CA certificates of mitmproxy but when I type ca-update-certificates I get no new added certificates
[16:33] <the_drow> I added them to /usr/local/share/ca-certificates/
[16:33] <meLon> the_drow: I normally do `sudo dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates`
[16:34] <meLon> the_drow: And then I'm asked to enable them.  I have to select them with UP and DOWN and hit SPACE_BAR
[16:34] <juan_> hello
[16:34] <meLon> Hey, juan_ ! Just ask :D
[16:34] <juan_> Thank you
[16:34] <the_drow> meLon: I also did that but I'm not seeing them available
[16:35] <meLon> Also, I have `/usr/local/share/ca-certificates/extras` (a directory I created) and I place them in that directory and then run the command
[16:35] <meLon> Oh, the_drow, also, it's really picky.  I'm pretty sure it wants PEMs
[16:35] <meLon> Let me check
[16:35] <the_drow> That doesn't work either
[16:35] <the_drow> It has pems
[16:35] <juan_> I want to know how can I use the home network from windows... can you help me?
[16:36] <meLon> You're on a Windows machine, juan_ ?
[16:36] <juan_> I am in ubuntu machine, but the network is configurate in windows, because there is the print
[16:37] <cfhowlett> !samba | juan_
[16:38] <meLon> Oh, the_drow, I am noticing the directory should be `/usr/share/ca-certiricates/extra`
[16:38] <juan_> Thank! I go to see that
[16:38] <meLon> the_drow: Or without the /extra part.  But do you see the difference?
[16:39] <the_drow> meLon: I got it. It looks for crt files and I had cer files in there
[16:39] <the_drow> It does install the pem file though
[16:40] <meLon> Yeah, I just know it can be a bit picky.  You get it all working, the_drow?  Just an FYI, that will help stuff like `curl`, but `chromium-browser` wants you to install the cert again within it for it to work properly.  Not sure exactly what you're trying to accomplish
[16:41] <the_drow> I'm trying to get mitmproxy to work with curl and python
[16:41] <meLon> It should be pretty happy now.  Just want to mention StartSSL gives out free certs.  People have varying opinions about them, but it exists.
[16:43] <milwaukee> is there a way, from ubuntu, for me to determine whether or not my motherboard has an integrated gpu? I always figured most do
[16:43] <milwaukee> aticonfig --list-adapters only shows my discrete card
[16:44] <meLon> Yeah, milwaukee, that's for ati cards and would only display such.  You probably want to utilize `lspci`
[16:44] <meLon> `lspci | grep VGA` milwaukee
[16:44] <daftykins> milwaukee: also look up your system components specs.
[16:45] <meLon> milwaukee: Also, nowadays, mostly i5/i7 computers have integrated graphics (as well as laptops), but otherwise it's not as common for me to see
[16:47] <ePax> I'm trying to mount usb to usb switch to specific ttyUSB on boot. What do i do wrong? This is from /etc/udev/rules.d/99.usb-serial.rules SUBSYSTEM=="tty",ATTRS{idVendor}=="xxxx",ATTRS{idProduct}=="xxxx,ATTRS{serial}=="xxxxxxxxxxx",RUN+="modem-modeswitch -v 0x%s{idVendor} -p 0x%s{idProduct},SYMLINK+="ttyUSB22" (where xx is product vendor and serial)
[16:48] <milwaukee> thanks, lspci lists it. Now to try and actually activate it...
[16:48] <meLon> milwaukee: There is a thing called "Additional Drivers" that is a GUI that might help enable what you'd like.
[16:49] <daftykins> milwaukee: what is 'it' exactly? if this is intel + AMD hybrid graphics you'll need to be careful here.
[16:49] <squinty> milwaukee,  you may also be interested in installing  inxi   which is available in repo's.   It is a terminal system information app.  see  https://code.google.com/p/inxi/
[16:49] <meLon> Nice, squinty !
[16:51] <milwaukee> daftykins: it's listed as 'VGA compatible controller: [AMD/ATI] Caicos [Radeon HD ...]'
[16:51] <milwaukee> which is weird. I have both DVI and VGA, the DVI being the discrete card the computer's currently using and VGA being the integrated card
[16:52] <daftykins> milwaukee: and that's the only one? share your lspci in a pastebin perhaps?
[16:52] <milwaukee> lspci also doesn't list the DVI
[16:52] <milwaukee> daftykins: sure, one sec
[16:52] <daftykins> lspci won't tell you about video output types
[16:53] <milwaukee> daftykins: pastebin.com/Qe4BVzi3   and oh ok, goes to show how much I know about this
[16:54] <milwaukee> I've only ever had my laptop with an intel integrated card, this is a new machine I'm setting up
[16:55] <Trab> does ubuntu do gre tunneling differently than other distrobutions?
[16:56] <jamesd_> wouldn't be good if they did... standards and networking is a good thing
[16:56] <daftykins> milwaukee: hmm certainly looks like the AMD is the only one there, so silly question time: #1 this is a laptop? and #2: you say you're seeing a VGA port on the motherboard IO area?
[16:56] <Trab> jamesd_ you're right...ugh things aren't working then
[16:56] <meLon> I think they call this 'hybrid' daftykins milwaukee
[16:57] <OerHeks> milwaukee, " sudo ubuntu-drivers devices "should show it then
[16:57] <OerHeks> else it is disabled in the bios
[16:57] <milwaukee> daftykins: 1. nope, this is one of those generic dell desktops for enterprise and 2. yep. there's a VGA port coming right from the motherboard and a DVI card below that
[16:58] <daftykins> milwaukee: ok, so technically it's one of those motherboards that may offer ports but they may not necessarily have a CPU with on-die graphics to drive them
[16:58] <daftykins> milwaukee: can you share your CPU model # from "cat /proc/cpuinfo" ?
[16:59] <daftykins> milwaukee: i'll be back in <5, gotta go buy some milk ;)
[17:00] <milwaukee> OerHeks: seems to list only one device. Is this my problem then?
[17:02] <milwaukee> daftykins: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500 CPU @ 3.30GHz
[17:02] <guest-SqSmLf> Hey
[17:04] <milwaukee> daftykins: it's listed as having Intel HD 2000 graphics @ http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i5/Intel-Core%20i5-2500%20CM8062300834203.html
[17:10] <cheffe> &list
[17:10] <That> Hello world, and people, 'nd stuff
[17:11] <That> I am That One Clown With Anony-OS! Call me That, for short!
[17:11] <cfhowlett> That, ask your ubuntu questions or play in some other channel.
[17:12] <That> Okie!
[17:12] <daftykins> milwaukee: intel ARK links are better :>
[17:12] <LegNBass> Can anyone in here help we with logging in an upstart service?
[17:13] <daftykins> milwaukee: ok i suspect it's disabled in your BIOS, there'll be a "PCI display first" or similar parmeter
[17:13] <daftykins> *parameter
[17:14] <LegNBass> I have "console log" in the .conf file and output from the actual job is making it into the log, but not the pre-script messages
[17:14] <meLon> Pre-Script messages, LegNBass ?
[17:14] <LegNBass> yeah just an echo `date` in the pre-script stanza
[17:14] <milwaukee> daftykins: ok, I'll give it a quick reboot and take a look
[17:14] <LegNBass> I want that to go into the log file to show when it was started and stopped
[17:15] <OerHeks> milwaukee, i think you need to check the vendors page, you are using the chipset-gpu now.
[17:15] <OerHeks> *if you have an 2nd
[17:16] <trism> LegNBass: there isn't a pre-script stanza is there? there is a pre-start one
[17:16] <LegNBass> sorry pre-start script
[17:17] <codekK> hey, few days ago i ask for help cause i cant boot my ubuntu on external HDD, someone here said me that maybe the HDD was broken. I use HDDRegenerator for test the hard disk and after about 8hours (500gb disk) it finisehd and no errors found. Then i tried to install this external disk in my laptop and sorprise! it works and ubuntu boot fine, now i uninstall it and put the HDD into external case and again same error. I get into initram
[17:17] <codekK> I can see some messages like: Missing modules (cat /proc/modules;  ls /dev) \n ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx does no t exist. Dropping to a shell!
[17:17] <milwaukee> daftykins: under PCI Information in bios I have: SLOT1= VGA Compatible, SLOT2= USB
[17:18] <milwaukee> OerHeks: what am I looking for in the vendors page?
[17:18] <OerHeks> milwaukee, if they provided you with an 2nd GPU.. i guess not.
[17:19] <OerHeks> So you have an Intel 2000 wit dual output
[17:19] <LegNBass> The link to a sample upstart script like the one I have is http://pastebin.com/m4v3dTFN
[17:19] <hellslinger> hi guys, I've uninstalled flash from my 14.04 machine and it is still giving me a warning about flash needing to be upgraded when I go to places like youtube. How do I purge my system of flash so that it tries html5 or nothing at all?
[17:20] <OerHeks> hellslinger, enable html5 @ http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e92_1437361970
[17:20] <LegNBass> I want the echo `date` to show up in the log with the python output
[17:20] <OerHeks> err https://www.youtube.com/html5
[17:20] <OerHeks> excuse me for the faulty url, ( it is not nsf just changing a tyre on my bike )
[17:21] <milwaukee> OerHeks: as I understand it, I've got an Intel 3000 with dual output (VGA, DisplayPort), and a discrete AMD card w/ single DVI output
[17:22] <OerHeks> milwaukee, nice, optimus. then you will need the prime tool to switch between them, AFAIK
[17:23] <tgm4883> OerHeks: you don't NEED the prime tool. I actually just set it up last night on my laptop
[17:23] <tgm4883> OerHeks: the prime tool tries to install nvidia stuff, which isn't necessary on AMD equipment
[17:23] <OerHeks> ah oke, prime is for nvidia?
[17:23] <OerHeks> oke
[17:23] <milwaukee> yeh, looks like prime tool is geared towards NVIDIA
[17:23] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[17:24] <tgm4883> OerHeks: well no, the Prime stuff we origininally on Nvidia and now the AMD stuff has similiar technology. AFAIK, similar to how we call 64-bit disks AMD64 even for intel CPUs
[17:24] <hellslinger> OerHeks, I was hoping that there would be a way to completely remove flash so that it never attempts to use it. I was able to do this on my Arch box (just uninstalled and it didn't even try to load)
[17:24] <tgm4883> hellslinger: what browser?
[17:25] <hellslinger> firefox
[17:25] <trism> LegNBass: is that actually your script, because I get all the log output with it
[17:26] <tiru> ok
[17:26] <tgm4883> hellslinger: I don't know if FF has any built in flash, I would think that if you've removed it from the system it wouldn't tell you to update it ( would just say it's missing)
[17:26] <LegNBass> trism: You see the date showing up in the /var/log/upstart/job.log file?
[17:27] <LegNBass> All I get is the output from python
[17:27] <hellslinger> tgm4883, yeah, that is kind of what I thought... no trace of flash in /usr/lib/mozilla/ either.. not sure why it continued to load it
[17:27] <trism> LegNBass: yes I get both
[17:27] <tgm4883> OerHeks: milwaukee FWIW, I setup mine last night with the open source drivers. The brief reading I did on it didn't seem to indcate that the prime stuff worked well with the prop drivers
[17:28] <tgm4883> hellslinger: what about the .mozilla folder in your home directory?
[17:28] <xangua> hellslinger: so you have adobe flash listed in about:plugins ¿ did you manually downloaded a tar file and install it¿
[17:29] <ioria> hellslinger, dpkg -l flashplugin-installer ?
[17:30] <trism> LegNBass: I suppose the one I'm using is slightly different, no respawn and it is start on, not start at, but it fails to start at all with start at so I don't think that's the problem
[17:30] <hellslinger> xangua, tgm4883 ioria: aha! there is a libflashplayer.so in my .mozilla. I don't remember installing from a tar, but I suppose it is possible
[17:31] <Guest9809> hi, ioria. If you are on UBuntu should you not use adobe-flashplugin ?
[17:31] <LegNBass> yeah sorry, I have start on
[17:31] <LegNBass> I typed it instead of pasting it
[17:31] <milwaukee> tgm4883: were you able to get switchable graphics configured properly? I'm just trying to switch to the VGA (integrated) output
[17:32] <LegNBass> trism: I get the output from python (both stdout and stderr) but no `date` or anything else I try to echo
[17:32] <ioria> !info adobe-flashplugin
[17:32] <trism> LegNBass: can you add another line, like: touch /tmp/somefilename and see if pre-start is execing at all?
[17:32] <hellslinger> ioria, xangua tgm4883, so this is interesting, there is no apt package installed for flash, but there is one in dpkg -l.. is that the result of installing a .deb from the flash website or something?
[17:33] <LegNBass> trism: I'll give it a shot
[17:33] <tgm4883> milwaukee: The little testing I've done shows that I've got it working properly, it's a laptop though, so I'm only dealing with HDMI out and the laptop panel. I was using this for reference https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PRIME
[17:33] <ioria> hellslinger, did you download from adobe website ?
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[17:35] <tgm4883> !mods
[17:35] <tgm4883> !ops
[17:35] <teward> tgm4883: too slow
[17:36] <teward> already was handled
[17:36] <tgm4883> teward: laggy IRC
[17:36] <hellslinger> ioria, xangua tgm4883 , yeah, must have been it and just forgot about it, thanks for the help!!
[17:36] <ioria> hellslinger, ok
[17:37] <LegNBass> trism: I think I just needed to do "initctl reload-configuration"
[17:38] <LegNBass> trism: That seems to have made the .conf changes take effect
[17:38] <LegNBass> trism: Nothing was executing in the pre-start script at all
[17:38] <daftykins> milwaukee: mmm, that's not quite the correct area of BIOS - you want something like 'integrated peripherals'
[17:39] <trism> LegNBass: oh so it's working now? that's kind of strange, it should watch for changes
[17:39] <LegNBass> trism: I am running this thing through a sym-link to a shared directory between a host machine and a Vagrant VM
[17:40] <LegNBass> trism: So there are a lot of places that might need to be updated for changes to take effect. I should have tried reloading sooner :P
[17:41] <trism> LegNBass: oh that makes sense then
[17:41] <milwaukee> daftykins: don't see anything like that, closest is 'Miscellaneous Devices' but there isn't anything listed underneath
[17:41] <Krampus> How do I tell apt to forcibly override a "package replacing file owned by other package?"
[17:43] <x_> hy
[17:44] <daftykins> milwaukee: hrmm maybe you can PM me the service tag of this machine
[17:48] <ilosamart> exit
[17:55] <daftykins> milwaukee: well that spec isn't obvious, but it seems to speak of a 1GB card as well as having the intel i5 sandybridge
[17:56] <linuxgec1o> I'm trying something mildly weird, and i'm a bit rusty with pxe. i'm trying to do a pxe install from a regular 15.04 iso. i have the kernel and initrd working, but the bootup sequence panics just as i get the splashscreen.  can i get some help getting this right?
[17:56] <daftykins> milwaukee: i'm not sure why it won't let you use both at once, it might be a board limitation
[17:56] <daftykins> milwaukee: do you think you could upload a picture of the back of the machine?
[17:58] <daftykins> milwaukee: actually, it's probably this huh? http://zapp2.staticworld.net/reviews/graphics/products/uploaded/dell_optiplex_990_888738_g2.jpg
[18:00] <linuxgec1o> nobody yet?
[18:00] <daftykins> linuxgec1o: not sure that image is meant to work
[18:00] <milwaukee> daftykins: yep, that's almost exactly it apart from my usb card having 2 ports
[18:00] <bekks> linuxgec1o: Boot without the splashscreen to see whats going on.
[18:01] <milwaukee> daftykins: only other difference is that piece of plastic over the VGA port ._.
[18:02] <daftykins> milwaukee: so you have the displayport connector just beside the PS/2 ports and the VGA, too?
[18:02] <milwaukee> daftykins: yep
[18:04] <daftykins> milwaukee: do you have a display already hooked up to either of those two?
[18:04] <milwaukee> I have the same monitor hooked up to both the DVI and VGA ports, and the DP is empty
[18:04] <ner> hey
[18:05] <linuxgec1o> bekks:  last thing before the panic is 'Running /scripts/init-premount, done'
[18:05] <ner> if someone didn't set a password during installation, does he have to enter a password to sudo?
[18:06] <milwaukee> daftykins: forgot to mention you above
[18:07] <daftykins> milwaukee: ah ok, so you have to cycle inputs
[18:07] <nicomachus> ner: should be able to just press enter, leaving the pw blank
[18:08] <ner> k thanks
[18:08] <milwaukee> daftykins: yeah. For full disclosure, I have two identical machines that I'm trying to hook up to this one display and have it just such that one is VGA and the other is DVI so I can cycle back and forth between them without having to switch the DVI connection in the back
[18:09] <linuxgec1o> bekks: it feels like it's not getting the squashfs in place. here's my pxe config for the relevant option. http://pastebin.ca/3068436
[18:09] <daftykins> milwaukee: ah ok, if the BIOS option doesn't seem obvious - i'd try pulling the graphics card out and see if the onboard works then
[18:10] <milwaukee> daftykins: can't unfortunately, these are work machines. It honestly isn't the worst thing in the world if I can't get the VGA working, that plastic over the VGA leads me to believe that it's just pre-configured as disabled somehow
[18:14] <linuxgec1o> bekks:  thoughts?
[18:14] <daftykins> milwaukee: i see, in that pic i figure it's blocking the space for a standard serial port. if it was indeed covering the VGA, then yeah perhaps it is disabled by the BIOS.
[18:15] <daftykins> seems odd to disable functionality the hardware is capable of though :S
[18:15] <bekks> linuxgec1o: Looks quite different from a standard entry of a livecd, e.g.
[18:17] <milwaukee> daftykins: yeah, the serial port is the one above that in the lighter blue. No clue either, curse you dell
[18:19] <Kully3xf_> how to echo contents of hostname into /etc/hosts/
[18:19] <daftykins> milwaukee: ah of course! silly me i often mix the genders of VGA and serial ports up so mistake them
[18:19] <daftykins> Kully3xf_: don't, edit it.
[18:19] <Kully3xf_> can't edit it
[18:19] <daftykins> Kully3xf_: why not?
[18:19] <Kully3xf_> needs to be dynamic
[18:19] <daftykins> you mean you're trying to change it programatically?
[18:19] <Kully3xf_> you wanna do it for 500 systems? lol
[18:20] <GentileBen> XLV: don't do it.
[18:20] <milwaukee> daftykins: ah well. Thanks anyways for all your help
[18:20] <daftykins> Kully3xf_: well shockingly enough we can't read minds over IRC, so you tend to have to actually state the task at hand :)
[18:20] <daftykins> milwaukee: np :)
[18:20] <Kully3xf_> :p
[18:20] <tgm4883> daftykins: pfft, casual
[18:20] <markovh> i remember seeing at one stage, an option to pop an embedded login window in ubuntu while you were already logged in. It was like a self contained new login session within your currently logged in session
[18:20] <Rabbitnightmare> I really really really really really wish I could move the dock from the left to the right
[18:20] <Kully3xf_> so basically i want to create a start up script that will pump the hostname into etc/hosts
[18:20] <Rabbitnightmare> this bugs me
[18:20] <linuxgec1o> bekks:  that makes sense, because it's a pxe boot, intended as an install. how should i modify it, to work correctly?
[18:20] <markovh> anyone know what i'm remembering and where i can find it again?
[18:21] <tgm4883> Kully3xf_: why?
[18:21] <Kully3xf_> because another program that runs on boot needs hosts to include the hostname
[18:21] <daftykins> hosts always does include the hostname
[18:21] <milwaukee> markovh: gksu?
[18:22] <tgm4883> Kully3xf_: and it's not already in there? (sorry, don't have a linux machine in front of me right now)
[18:22] <markovh> milwaukee: no it was a full session
[18:22] <Kully3xf_> nope. just says "localhost"
[18:22] <Kully3xf_> in /etc/hosts
[18:22] <markovh> milwaukee: it was as if you had taken tty7 and created a window with a new desktop session inside but it was embedded
[18:22] <milwaukee> markovh: sorry, no idea then
[18:23] <daftykins> Kully3xf_: which ubuntu is this?
[18:23] <Rabbitnightmare> can you awesome developers please enable me to move the dock to the right, I dislike it on the left, the amount of times I accidentally clock on things I don't want to due to placement is so high
[18:23] <Rabbitnightmare> my only gripe with this OS
[18:23] <daftykins> Rabbitnightmare: you're doing pretty well then.
[18:23] <Rabbitnightmare> its solid daftykins
[18:24] <Rabbitnightmare> very well polished
[18:24] <Rabbitnightmare> would it be so hard to mirror it to the right? everything else on the left, icons, close button, browser buttons
[18:24] <Kully3xf_> 14.04 aws
[18:24] <Rabbitnightmare> if the dock and menu was on the right I would be very happy
[18:25] <daftykins> Kully3xf_: ah so not even normal but an amazon instance, oh well.
[18:25] <Kully3xf_> it's ubuntu not amazon linux
[18:25] <Rabbitnightmare> I like and use Amazon so this feature is awesome
[18:25] <daftykins> Kully3xf_: you 100% misunderstand what i said, i said it's an _amazon instance_ which means yeah, it can still be ubuntu *but* it's their deployment of it
[18:26] <Rabbitnightmare> I would love to see more product in Distros
[18:26] <Rabbitnightmare> Linux needs to be a monicor
[18:26] <daftykins> Rabbitnightmare: this is a support channel, not a chat one
[18:26] <daftykins> !ot
[18:26] <Rabbitnightmare> if its not generating revenue its useless t businesses, and thus useless to the world
[18:27] <Rabbitnightmare> daftykins, aha
[18:27] <Rabbitnightmare> just for the next version, move the entire dock and all it's elements to the right
[18:27] <Rabbitnightmare> and I will be very happy
[18:27] <tgm4883> Kully3xf_: This seems like an easy fix for something like puppet
[18:27] <Rabbitnightmare> why is it anchored to the left
[18:27] <tgm4883> or chef, or salt, etc
[18:32] <rypervenche> or ansible :)
[18:34] <linuxgec1o> anyone with adjustments? i'm very unfamiliar with ubuntu, but not linux. i can configure it anywway i need, but i don't know how to make ubuntu boot happily
[18:35] <daftykins> linuxgec1o: well are you still trying to PXE boot the desktop image? what about the net boot image?
[18:36] <daftykins> !pxe
[18:36] <linuxgec1o> daftykins: imo either shoudl work, but i'll give the netboot image a shot if that will increase the sucesss.
[18:36] <Krampus> Is there a program that can 'audit' my local package database and fix any goofiness?  It's got some weird ideas about which files should own what.
[18:38] <daftykins> linuxgec1o: looked at this? http://www.unixmen.com/install-configure-pxe-server-ubuntu-14-04-lts/
[18:38] <daftykins> Krampus: what kind of wierd ideas?
[18:39] <Krampus> daftykins: there are several packages where trying to install/update gives me:
[18:39] <Krampus> daftykins: eg, "ucfr: Association belongs to 3:4:5:6:php5-cli, not php5-cli"
[18:39] <Krampus> daftykins: remove purging for them doesn't work.
[18:39] <linuxgec1o> daftykins: the pxe is a
[18:39] <linuxgec1o> gar..  one sec.
[18:40] <daftykins> Krampus: have a look at the policy of the package to see where it's being offered from, perhaps you have a PPA
[18:43] <Krampus> daftykins: it says it's going to pull it from the ubuntu archive.  Nothing's jumping out as clearly wrong (and it's more than just php5-cli, grub is in there too as busted)
[18:43] <Krampus> daftykins: I'm not clear on what the 3:4:5:6 prefixed on php5-cli that ucfr is complaining about comes from.
[18:43] <linuxgec1o> daftykins:  i have not looked at that.    is that ramdisk measured in bytes, meg or k?
[18:43] <daftykins> Krampus: define 'busted' ? use http://paste.ubuntu.com to show what you mean
[18:44] <daftykins> linuxgec1o: i'm not the author of the guide, just an example of how seconds in google beats you asking here really ;)
[18:45] <Krampus> daftykins: You know, just a general kind of broken! :)  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11910578/
[18:46] <linuxgec1o> daftykins:  i've seen a similar howto, but i don't understand the options. my pxe server is not ubuntu-based, but pxe shouldn't care much.    where it does, i need understanding, not rote repetition
[18:46] <daftykins> linuxgec1o: so learn
[18:47] <daftykins> Krampus: can you share a "dpkg -l | grep php5" ?
[18:48] <Krampus> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11910592/
[18:49] <Krampus> hm... I don't know why some of those are the 4ubuntu6 and others are 4ubuntu6.2 versions, but that seems weird.
[18:49] <linuxgec1o> daftykins: that's why i came here. i had the assumption that those supporting here know ubuntu better than me, and would help me with the details. i'm starting to feel i was wrong.
[18:50] <daftykins> linuxgec1o: well first off #ubuntu-server would make more sense - but likely you're going to get trouble since you're not using ubuntu on the server end
[18:52] <Krampus> daftykins: I gotta go grab some lunch.  If you've got any suggestions, I'll roll through them when I get back.  I can't imagine what I did to get it into that state though. :)
[18:53] <ioria> kram
[18:53] <Krampus> daftykins: (and it's not a production machine, so 'drastic' isn't off the table, although I'd prefer to not have to do a full reinstall since right now I can at least work.)
[18:53] <ioria> Krampus,  check the symlinks
[18:53] <daftykins> Krampus: mmm, does seem to be a conflict of some kind
[18:54] <daftykins> i must say i'm confused by the 3:4:5:6 php5-cli :)
[18:56] <linuxgec1o> daftykins: i do and don't see why that would be a problem. the problem with the ubuntu is not the pxe server, because i can verify that the dhcp is working right, and the tftp is working right.   it boots the kernel and it loads the initrd. it might be the wrong kernel and wrong initrd for what i'm trying to do, but it should WORK. this is more about what options i need to feed the pxe client machine.
[18:57] <linuxgec1o> daftykins: I'll try over there, and try to to get this ficed with as little " well, your problem is that your'e not hosting it from an ubuntu server" BS as i can manage.
[19:02] <Nokaji> Hi, I'm struggling to get ubuntu recognising any DVD, some intermittent issues with audio CDs. I've got LibDVDRead4 & LibDVDNav4 installed, not sure about LibDVDCSS
[19:06] <linuxgec1o> Nokaji: this may be dated advice, but back in the day,  isntalling restricted-extras usually solved any DV issues,  along with lots of other ergonomics. ymmv, and that may not be a solution that still works.
[19:07] <Nokaji> linuxgec1o: Yup, I've installed all the extras as far as i can tell but the link for 'LibDVDCSS' doesn't seem to work so cannot check that one, it is for recognising DVDs, the other two are reading and navigating DVDs
[19:07] <daftykins> Nokaji: 'dvdcss' sounds like the wrong name
[19:08] <Nokaji> or LibDVDCSS2
[19:08] <rubbe_> Hey guys, i was wondering if someone could help me with a ubuntu 15.04 install, preferably over pm?
[19:08] <daftykins> Nokaji: do you have VLC installed? does it play?
[19:08] <daftykins> !pm | rubbe_
[19:08] <Nokaji> name says one, link says other but didn't work either way
[19:08] <daftykins> rubbe_: ask here.
[19:08] <Nokaji> VLC, yup - tried opening with it, no joy
[19:09] <Nokaji> vlc closes down
[19:09] <daftykins> Nokaji: run it in a terminal maybe and look for errors
[19:09] <Nokaji> not sure how to do that, I'll do a google
[19:10] <Nokaji> vlc in terminal you mean yeah?
[19:11] <rubbe_> I installed a clean ubuntu installation, to get rid of windows 8, first boot went great. Next startup i keep getting "Secure Boot Violation. Invalid Signature Detected"
[19:11] <Nokaji> okay, vlc --help gives me some clues
[19:18] <w30> I made a system user and would like her/him to show up on graphic login.Possible?
[19:18] <w30> not
[19:28] <rtreleaven> w30 what is a system user?
[19:28] <gcbirzan_> On a vivid xubuntu (is asking questions about xubuntu allowed in here? sorry, couldn't find anything obvious in the rules), how do you debug a X driver issue? I installed fglrx (my proprietary drivers, or whatever they're called) and I get stuck at boot
[19:29] <gcbirzan_> I can boot with init=/bin/bash, but meh. I'd expect being able to get to a shell even if the boot process somehow gets stuck...
[19:29] <w30> rtreleaven, no shell, home directory
[19:30] <w30> I use it for a samba user
[19:30] <rtreleaven> w30 do you currently get a drop down list of normal users?
[19:30] <gcbirzan_> (by being stuck I mean I cannot stop the thing or switch to a console that'll give me a login prompt)
[19:30] <w30> rtreleaven, yes
[19:30] <sublimate> Where do they store the host keys for sshd on Ubuntu?
[19:31] <rtreleaven> My guess is because this user does not show up on that list already then it is going to be difficult.
[19:31] <squinty> gcbirzan_,   access recovery mode via the grub boot menu.
[19:31] <gcbirzan_> squinty: And then what?
[19:32] <gcbirzan_> squinty: My point is, to boot and fail requires at least a reboot. Is there a way to NOT go through that?
[19:32] <rtreleaven> sublimate ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[19:32] <squinty> oh for petes sake
[19:32] <sublimate> rtreleaven: Not those host keys. Got my answer, thanks.
[19:33] <rtreleaven> sublimate what host keys then?
[19:33] <gcbirzan_> For fuck's sake, you mean? Why, in God's name, would you make the boot process get stuck when your XDM clone doesn't start?
[19:33] <sublimate> rtreleaven: On the server side
[19:33] <Ben64> gcbirzan_: watch the language here please
[19:34] <gcbirzan_> Ben64: Okay. For effe's sake? That's a beer, am I allowed to talk about beer in here/
[19:35] <gcbirzan_> Anyway. Sorry, that was just mean. I don't understand why you'd want to keep a Linux channel "family safe", but I appreciate the fact that you do.
[19:36] <gcbirzan_> I still am left with a question that nobody seems to know how to tackle. I could install a Debian alongside, but I'd rather not spend an hour on my crappy Internet connection...
[19:39] <raj> where is my `make` program?
[19:39] <raj> cpan is asking
[19:39] <gcbirzan_> apt-get install make?
[19:40] <daftykins> gcbirzan_: no TTYs work from your boot?
[19:40] <raj> oh, it doesn't come pre-installed?
[19:40] <gcbirzan_> or, well, /usr/bin/make
[19:40] <daftykins> gcbirzan_: i believe most proprietary graphics drivers require lightdm which xfce on xubuntu doesn't use
[19:40] <gcbirzan_> daftykins: The boot sequence doesn't finish, so whatever systemd uses instead of inittab won't matter
[19:41] <gcbirzan_> daftykins: that's how I got to a proper shell. I uninstalled lightdm, so I am using it
[19:41] <solidpozza> If I encrypt my home folder and/or my entire Ubuntu installation and I later find I'm unable to boot or something, will I still be able to unencrypt them with the correct passwords?
[19:41] <daftykins> gcbirzan_: you're saying you are using lightdm because you uninstalled it? wat.
[19:41] <tgm4883> that's a weird sentence
[19:41] <gcbirzan_> basically, when you try to start lightdm, that tries tos tart X. that fails, so the wheole boot process hangs...
[19:42] <raj> gcbirzan_, what about `applypatch`?
[19:42] <daftykins> gcbirzan_: fglrx from repo packages or fglrx from AMD?
[19:43] <gcbirzan_> daftykins: I just went to the non-free thingy and said I want flgrx-update,s o I'm guessing from the repo
[19:44] <gcbirzan_> raj: I'm slightly confused about what you mean...
[19:44] <solidpozza> I like to have access to my files in case the os fails or something, I often recover people's files for them. But if they're encrypted then I might not be able to. However if I enable encryption it will be more secure.
[19:44] <daftykins> additional drivers?
[19:44] <gcbirzan_> daftykins: it's fglrx-upates from the repo. I don't know how I got there, but I uninstalled that one to get my intel drivers working
[19:45] <Nokaji> daftykins: okay an update of sorts, seems to be telling me I'm missing the css file and i need to install, options include "Use packages from derivatives that include libdvdcss" so I'm gonna see what is available
[19:45] <daftykins> gcbirzan_: so you have a hybrid graphics setup too, not solely AMD?
[19:45] <raj> gcbirzan_, nm, it's a part of makepatch
[19:46] <tgm4883> gcbirzan_: you uninstalled your fglrx drivers, rebooted, and now X doesn't start?
[19:48] <Krampus> daftykins: yeah, as am I.  The only think I can figure is that some process in the package installation chain took the "GREP_OPTIONS" environmental variable I have in my bashrc and applied it to their own use of grep.  But I didn't sudo -E with it, so I don't know why that'd be a thing.
[19:48] <Krampus> daftykins: erm, "GREP_OPTIONS=-n" so that it'd provide line numbers.
[19:51] <daftykins> !hybrid
[19:53] <Krampus> daftykins: but i'm not sure where it gets those numbers from.  Grepping through the apt directories in var/lib and var/cache gave me nothing.
[19:55] <daftykins> ioria: did you have any ideas as to the 3:4:5:6 from Krampus' paste?
[19:55] <daftykins> actually perhaps you didn't see ioria's message Krampus - since i think it was a bad nick highlight
[19:55] <daftykins> ah no it wasn't
[19:56] <ioria> daftykins, i think he has to purge and reinstall all php5 package ...
[19:56] <Krampus> ioria: I thought I got all of them, but i can retry.
[19:56] <medu_> hi
[19:56] <gcbirzan_> daftykins: yes, intel/amd. It used to work, but I put an ssd in this laptop and 'upgraded' to xubuntu vivid. :P
[19:56] <Krampus> ioria: it refused to uninstall php5-cli because the php.ini is owned by the 3:4:5:6:php5-cli package.
[19:56] <Guest83962> sd
[19:56] <gcbirzan_> tgm4883: I _installed_ them and I couldn't boot
[19:57] <Krampus> I'm going to try moving the file in question and then moving it back.
[19:57] <tgm4883> gcbirzan_: what laptop?
[19:57] <gcbirzan_> tgm4883: an hp pavilion dv7. I can give you more info if you want, but yaeh
[19:58] <tgm4883> gcbirzan_: I was just wondering what graphics chips
[19:58] <ioria> Krampus,  i don't know a 3.4.5.6 php5-cli package .....
[19:58] <tgm4883> gcbirzan_: models I mean
[19:58] <gcbirzan_> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Robson CE [Radeon HD 6370M/7370M]
[19:58] <Krampus> ioria: yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me.  There's a couple other packages doing the same thing.
[19:59] <gcbirzan_> and whatever intel comes with Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU       M 460  @ 2.53GHz
[19:59] <tgm4883> gcbirzan_: similiar to my dell laptop. HD 7500M
[19:59] <Krampus> Is there a way for me to tell apt to ignore the duplicate file.
[19:59] <bekks> Krampus: Remove the duplicate.
[20:00] <ioria> Krampus,  dpkg -l php5-cli ?
[20:05] <Nokaji> daftykins: Installed libdvdcss file, getter error messages but possibly an improvement, gonna try reboot
[20:06] <ioria> Nokaji, there is no libdvdcss package anynore
[20:06] <ioria> !info libdvdcss
[20:06] <ioria> !info libdvdcss2
[20:07] <ioria> Nokaji, it's incorporeted in libvdread4  , you maybe forgot to run  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[20:10] <Nokaji> ioria: Thats the exact line I've just run, thanks. Apparently there has been a server go offline, mediabunt or something that used to supply it, now vlc host the file
[20:10] <Nokaji> thanks for your input, i'll try a reboot
[20:11] <ioria> Nokaji, ok, if you got issue wth vlc .... take a look https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[20:12] <Nokaji> yup, that's where i got the line form and the suggestion to reboot
[20:12] <Nokaji> so looks like i'm doing the right thing, there is hope yet
[20:12] <ioria> ^_^
[20:14] <cluelessperson> ioria, You called?
[20:14] <^_^> Hi ioria
[20:14] <ioria> wow
[20:19] <Nokaji> ioria: no sign of dvd access, key line so far seems to be "Could not open /dev/sr0 with libdvdcss"
[20:19] <Nokaji> I'll google
[20:22] <ioria> Nokaji, have you tried with another player ?
[20:25] <Nokaji> it's not showing in nautilus
[20:26] <Nokaji> smplayer didn't work but i'm not familiar with it
[20:26] <ioria> Nokaji, what's the error you got with the command above ?
[20:27] <ioria> Nokaji, "Installed libdvdcss file, getter error messages but possibly an improvement
[20:29] <Nokaji> vlc /dev/sr0 - Using dvdnav version 4.2.1 - ...
[20:29] <Nokaji> libdvdread: Could not open /dev/sr0 with libdvdcss.
[20:29] <Nokaji> libdvdread: Can't open /dev/sr0 for reading
[20:30] <Nokaji> libdvdnav: vm: failed to open/read the DVD
[20:30] <Nokaji> [0x7f52a80010b8] filesystem access error: read error: Input/output error etc
[20:30] <ioria> Nokaji, you are on a virtual machine ?
[20:30] <Nokaji> nope
[20:30] <Nokaji> regular ubunto 14.04
[20:31] <Nokaji> dual boot with win 8
[20:32] <squinty> dmesg | grep DVD   to see if it is being recognized upon boot?
[20:32] <Nokaji> found a page with similar problem, they are saying "the UDF filesystem on the dvd is not being automounted "
[20:33] <Nokaji> maybe that is obvious, dunno
[20:33] <Nokaji> no icon in nautilus
[20:33] <Nokaji> I'll swop dvds
[20:34] <squinty> also  Disks   see if it is recognized in there plus
[20:34] <ioria> Nokaji, could be related to setregion ...
[20:35] <Nokaji> no medium
[20:35] <Nokaji> okay
[20:36] <Nokaji> windows never balked at this kinda thing
[20:36] <ioria> Nokaji, try with ubuntu-restricted-extrs
[20:36] <Nokaji> maybe I should boot to windows just to see what happens
[20:36] <Nokaji> I have those
[20:36] <wileee> Nokaji, comparing tje two is a waste of time.
[20:36] <wileee> the*
[20:36] <Nokaji> ok
[20:36] <wileee> ;)
[20:37] <Nokaji> dvd doesn't sound like it is cranking up, no purring sounds
[20:37] <wileee> Nokaji, see if any dvd's work would be your best start, assuming  you have the restricted extras installed.
[20:37] <Nokaji> sounds like it retries a few
[20:38] <wileee> any disc really
[20:38] <ioria> Nokaji, what are you trying  to play ?
[20:38] <Nokaji> sherlock homes dvd
[20:38] <ioria> Nokaji, original ?
[20:39] <Nokaji> yup
[20:39] <Nokaji> s/h though
[20:39] <Nokaji> I have three to try
[20:39]  * helo wonders why ubuntu server installer doesn't have bash in rescue mode without root fs
[20:39] <wileee> Nokaji, no acronyms please.
[20:39] <Nokaji> now trying second hand
[20:39] <ioria> Nokaji, see on the cover should be present the region set country ... or stuff like that
[20:39] <helo> is bash too much to ask for?
[20:40] <wileee> helo, #ubuntu-servee
[20:40]  * helo twitters
[20:40] <wileee> #ubuntu-server  sorry
[20:41] <Nokaji> has a globe with a 2 on iy
[20:41] <Nokaji> it*
[20:41] <ioria> yep, it's hat i think
[20:41] <ioria> *t
[20:42] <dgarstang> Can anyone suggest a remote execution tool, maybe like fabric, that has a pretty frontend web UI?
[20:43] <wileee> in linux not much
[20:43] <Nokaji> mount /dev/sr0   ...gives...  mount: can't find /dev/sr0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[20:44] <wileee> Nokaji, Have you looked through this wiki? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[20:44] <Nokaji> squinty: thanks, I missed your line, trying now
[20:45] <Nokaji> [    4.528091] ata5.00: ATAPI: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223L, SB04, max UDMA/100
[20:45] <linuxgec1o> dgarstang: pretty web gui frontend? why?
[20:45] <Nokaji> [    4.529734] scsi 4:0:0:0: CD-ROM            TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223L  SB04 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[20:46] <ioria> Nokaji, can you paste /etc/fstab ?
[20:47] <Nokaji> how do i do that ioria ?
[20:48] <dgarstang> linuxgec1o: so that non technicla people can deploy stuff
[20:48] <ioria> Nokaji, cat /etc/fstab and paste on paste.ubuntu.com
[20:48] <bayoumi> my ubuntu freezes.. heeellp :)))
[20:48] <Nokaji> ok
[20:48] <wileee> !details | bayoumi
[20:48] <ioria> Nokaji, and then give us the utl
[20:48] <ioria> url
[20:49] <linuxgec1o> dgarstang: mebbe i'm just an elitist IT guy by trade, but why would non-techinical people be deploying things?
[20:49] <wileee> bayoumi, Try to give some details if you can. ;)
[20:49] <linuxgec1o> dgarstang: IME that commonly ends in screwed up configs.
[20:49] <dgarstang> linuxgec1o: How about QA?
[20:50] <bayoumi> wileee, i dont know why its freeze :) im new with linux :)
[20:50] <dgarstang> linuxgec1o: even technical people. pick one.. have everyone install and configure fabric or use a web UI
[20:50] <wileee> bayoumi, What do you do when it freezes?
[20:50] <Nokaji> ioria: It's at - http://paste.ubuntu.com/11911206/
[20:51] <linuxgec1o> dgarstang: i feel best deploying from a commandline. i can see your point of view, but i disagree with it.
[20:51] <wileee> bayoumi, as well how many times has this happened, my concern is hard shutdowns and how many?
[20:51] <ron__> maxima
[20:52] <bayoumi> wileee, try'in to put some program shortcuts to desktop... it happens 2 times and had to hard shutdown twice as well
[20:52] <ioria> Nokaji, have you tried an audio cd (not dvd) ?
[20:52] <Nokaji> audio works fine when it works, sometimes can be intermittent on accepting cd though
[20:52] <wileee> bayoumi, Could it be you have to much running for the hardware?
[20:53] <dgarstang> linuxgec1o: so do I, but I'm not the end user. End users are my dinosaur boss formerly from yahoo, QA and developers. None of them want to use a command line. You think they develop code with vi? they use a web ui... eclipse
[20:54] <bayoumi> wileee, dunno :) i haven't anything running in backround exept evolution mail
[20:54] <wileee> bayoumi, In the end the hardware and the ubuntu release and desktop are the basic info needed here.
[20:55] <linuxgec1o> dgarstang: why not have them just ship the deployed stuff to a "deployment dir", and have admins or cronjobs deploy it.  ecplise can git/svn/ssh/ftp.    most other tools worth their salt should too.
[20:55] <ioria> Nokaji, try to install  ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:56] <dgarstang> linuxgec1o: we're using chef. That's fine. There are situations where you need to run commands remotely. Restart chef client, tomcat, upgrade (although chef pretty much does that)
[20:56] <wileee> bayoumi, what is the computer?
[20:57] <bayoumi> wileee, acer aspire MA50 laptop, Intel core i3-2367M, Ubunto 14.04 LTS
[20:57] <Nokaji> ioria: tells me installed Jan 2015
[20:57] <Nokaji> with all four optional extras
[20:57] <bayoumi> wileee, Geforce GT 640M/PCIe
[20:58] <bayoumi> wileee, running ubuntu 64-bit
[20:59] <ioria> Nokaji, so you didn't need to install anything new...
[20:59] <Nokaji> just the libdvdcss which i seemed to have missed somehow
[20:59] <ioria> Nokaji, no ..... what libdvdcss you installed now ?
[21:00] <wileee> bayoumi, Hard to say for me, there are others here better and more efficient in this area, just include that hardware info in your requests. ;)
[21:00] <Lazik> bayoumi, what does your /var/log/xorg.log say?
[21:00] <Nokaji> ioria: from sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[21:00] <linuxgec1o> dgarstang: are those cases the exception, or the rule, and are all the manual cases the same?
[21:00] <ioria> Nokaji, ok that .... with no error ?
[21:00] <wileee> bayoumi, Hardware the release and desktop basically.
[21:01] <jhutchins_wk> bayoumi: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[21:01] <Nokaji> don't recall if there were or not an error, I'll check if you tell me how
[21:01] <Nokaji> ioria:
[21:01] <jhutchins_wk> bayoumi: What were you doing when it froze?  What did you have to do to un-freeze it?  Could you still access consoles?  Could you still access it over ssh?
[21:01] <ioria> Nokaji, runit again
[21:03] <Nokaji> ioria: its installed
[21:03] <Nokaji> ioria:  no sign of error or if it was already found
[21:04] <ioria> Nokaji, ls -l /dev/sr0 ?
[21:05] <Nokaji> ioria: brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 Jul 20 22:04 /dev/sr0
[21:05] <Bayoumi> wileee, sry.. another hard boot :)
[21:05] <Lazik> Bayoumi, what does your /var/log/xorg.log say?
[21:05] <ioria> Nokaji, sudo regionset /dev/sr0   .... select 2
[21:06] <Nokaji> ioria: sudo: regionset: command not found
[21:06] <ioria> Nokaji, sudo apt-get install regionset
[21:07] <Nokaji> installing ...
[21:07] <Nokaji> ioria:  regionset version 0.1 -- reads/sets region code on DVD drives - ERROR: Could not open disc "/dev/sr0"! - Please ensure there is a readable CD or DVD in the drive.
[21:08] <Nokaji> trying with a CD
[21:08] <ioria> Nokaji, you have to insert a disk ....
[21:08] <Nokaji> DVD inserted
[21:08] <ioria> Nokaji, dvd... better
[21:08] <Nokaji> tried that ioria
[21:08] <bayoumi> Lazik, did u say anything to me?
[21:09] <Nokaji> ioria: seems it has to be able to read it before I can tell it to read it
[21:09] <Lazik> bayoumi: yea, what does your /var/log/xorg.log say
[21:10] <ioria> Nokaji, meaning ?
[21:11] <Nokaji> ioria: meaning it won't set a dvd region to allow access until it can see a dvd first
[21:11] <ioria> Nokaji,  broken dvd ?
[21:12] <Nokaji> ioria: can't rule it out, unless I try in windows perhaps
[21:12] <ioria> Nokaji,  sorry... run out of ideas
[21:12] <Nokaji> audio plays fine though
[21:12] <Nokaji> tht's okay, you've been most helpful
[21:12] <ioria> Nokaji,  cd... not dvd
[21:13] <ioria> Nokaji,  if you solve and can come back... let me know please
[21:13] <Nokaji> I can get it to recognise CDs with the occasional failure but not a single DVD so far
[21:14] <ioria> Nokaji,  ok, bye
[21:14] <Nokaji> ioria: I will do that, I'll try to save this dialogue so I can go over it again, I easily miss stuff when it is relatively fast paced, such as the odd comment
[21:15] <Nokaji> page saved, that was easy for a change :)
[21:19] <Programmer_> what is up with the packages login and passwd being updated on debian/ubuntu?
[21:19] <bayoumi> Lazik, pls help
[21:20] <bekks> Programmer_: Can you elaborate please?
[21:20] <bayoumi> i cant do anything.. ubuntu freezes all the time..
[21:23] <Lazik> bayoumi: post your /var/log/xorg.log
[21:24] <squinty> !paste > bayoumi
[21:25] <wileee> bayoumi, Sorry I had to take care of other business, you have other help, carry on. ;)
[21:25] <Leonitus> Do you guys know how to change themouse colour of x11 desktop?
[21:25] <Leonitus> the * mouse
[21:25] <Lazik> gee www.pastebin.com
[21:27] <Programmer_> bekks, The following packages will be upgraded:
[21:27] <Programmer_>   flashplugin-installer google-chrome-stable:i386 login passwd tor tor-geoipdb virtualbox-4.3
[21:27] <wileee> Leonitus, what actual desktop?
[21:28] <wileee> this a remote?
[21:28] <Lazik> bayoumi: pastebin.com
[21:31] <Leonitus> wileee: xfce4 desktop
[21:31] <Leonitus> noob
[21:37] <crayon> are there any safe production adobe flash alternatives?
[21:38] <jhutchins_wk> !pepperflash
[21:39] <jhutchins_wk> crayon: pepperflash from the chrome browser can be installed in firefox, but I'm not sure of teh details.
[21:40] <Lazik> adobe is probably the worst company when it comes to security
[21:41] <wileee> !fud
[21:41] <crayon> jhutchins_wk, thanks so much ill google away this
[21:42] <jhutchins_wk> crayon: you can /msg dpkg pepperflash in #debian if you're actually running that.  If you're running ubuntu, don't ask for help in #debian, you'll end up b0rking your system.  They're different.
[21:43] <bilb_ono> can someone help me start nginx? I keep getting an “address is already in use” error on port 80, yet lsof -i:80 comes back empty
[21:44] <squinty> crayon:  pepperflashplugin-nonfree  is available in the repo's
[21:45] <tonyyarusso> crayon: Really, your best bet is to just not use Flash at all.
[21:45] <crayon> i'm inclined to agree but unfortunately it's not my call :(
[21:46] <crayon> there are some very specific infrastructure dependencies on flash that can't be rewritten at this time
[21:47] <bilb_ono> nvm apparently there are still things running on 80
[21:47] <silentphoenix> quit
[21:47] <bilb_ono> how can I totally kill anything running on port 80 for good?
[21:49] <tonyyarusso> bilb_ono: lsof -i :80 won't return results you expect unless you run it with sudo btw.
[21:50] <Tzunamii> "for good" would also imply that he wants to make sure the services doesn't start at boot, if I'm not mistaken
[21:50] <bilb_ono> no I guess not for good then
[21:50] <bilb_ono> just enough for me to start nginx on that port
[21:51] <tonyyarusso> bilb_ono: First you need to figure out what it is that's using it.  Ideally you then shut that down gracefully.
[21:51] <bilb_ono> right
[21:51] <Lazik> sudo netstat -plant | grep 80 ?
[21:51] <bilb_ono> i see tcp is on 0.0.0.0:80
[21:51] <bilb_ono> and tcp6 is on :::80
[21:51] <bilb_ono> i need to gracefully shut those down
[21:52] <Lazik> sudo kill
[21:52] <bilb_ono> sudo kill what?
[21:52] <Tzunamii> bilb_ono: Do what Lazik proposed
[21:52] <Tzunamii> ie, the netstat
[21:52] <bilb_ono> how can I find the PID of those things?
[21:52] <Tzunamii> After that you will see what service is using that port
[21:52] <bilb_ono> so that I can sudo kill them?
[21:53] <tonyyarusso> bilb_ono: tcp and tcp6 are just protocol families, not processes or services.  You want to know the name of the parent service.
[21:53] <bilb_ono> ok. how would I find that name?
[21:53] <tonyyarusso> You shouldn't need to use kill for a service - there will be a stop command.
[21:54] <bilb_ono> but its not a service anyways
[21:54] <tonyyarusso> bilb_ono: The netstat command
[21:54] <bilb_ono> sudo netstat -plant | grep 80 ?
[21:55] <Tzunamii> minus the question mark
[21:55] <bilb_ono> ok cool. now its saying 1463/nginx -g daemo next to both of them
[21:57] <Cata> hello everyone, I'm new on Ubuntu :)
[22:00] <boriseto> Hello, is there a way to force a certain app always start maximized? Something like maximus, but only for one app, instead of all.
[22:00] <lasers`> boriseto: devilspie?
[22:00] <torelulz> boriseto: have you read the manual? any launch options availiable there?
[22:00] <torelulz> hm, devilspie seems like an option :-)
[22:01] <boriseto> torelulz, it's about chrome with it's webapps, so it's just a temp solution... lasers` will try it, haven't seen it before.
[22:03] <lasers`> boriseto: You can use google-chrome --app=URL to turn off toolbars and such. Perfect for Netflix. ;-)
[22:04] <boriseto> lasers`, yeap, I know, but when using it as a webapp shortcut, it won't start maximized but in a small square window instead. The weird thing is that it remembers the sizing if not maximized. It's a chrome problem, I know, but still...
[22:06] <boriseto> lasers`, so can you help me to configure/use devilspie (if it's fine by you)?
[22:06] <lasers`> boriseto: I don't use it at all.
[22:06] <boriseto> lasers`, oh, okay. Will look it up then. Thanks.
[22:07] <OerHeks> good start https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie
[22:08] <YamakasY_> hi guys, does anyone know an issue with puppt about locales UTF-8 ?
[22:08] <YamakasY_> I get complains about it un my puppetrun
[22:10] <OerHeks> YamakasY_, known issue yeah https://tickets.puppetlabs.com/browse/SERVER-779
[22:11] <OerHeks> But i think more subject for #ubuntu-server
[22:14] <YamakasY_> OerHeks: yes found it
[22:15] <YamakasY_> OerHeks: the fun it that I already saw this months ago and everyone said I was nuts :P
[22:15] <daftykins> maybe you can be nuts AND there can be a bug? ;)
[22:16] <YamakasY_> daftykins: I'm nuts for sure, but about the bug... I'm unsure :P
[22:16] <YamakasY_> it's not a bug
[22:16]  * YamakasY_ is sexy and everyone knows it ;)
[22:16] <YamakasY_> I'm too sexy for my shirt too
[22:17] <cuddylier> How would I find out what processes are running on a specific IP?
[22:17] <hplc> is it possible to use all the win-keys on my "Microsoft model 1031" in an easy manner to setup?, like any premade solution out there regarding Win-boards? or do i have to manually define what each key is supposed to do for me in an xorg.conf?
[22:19] <Tzunamii> cuddylier: sudo lsof -i -T -n
[22:19] <Tzunamii> cuddylier: that's a good start
[22:20] <YamakasY_> daftykins: now that made you quiet huh :P
[22:24] <darren> hi all
[22:24] <Guest30284> hi all
[22:24] <YamakasY_> Tzunamii: here i can speak
[22:25] <Guest30284> anyone been here before ???
[22:25] <hplc> any ideas about the winboard?, any at all?
[22:29] <boriseto> OerHeks, thanks, that helped. Plus I've found some info about it on webupd8 too...
[22:36] <Bayoumi> hi all
[22:40] <daniel__> ola
[22:41] <daniel__> hello
[22:41] <daniel__> hello
[22:42] <reisio> daniel__: :p
[22:50] <Karyme> hello! i was wondering if anyone could help me figure out how to customize a keyboard layout? it involves custom dead keys, and i cant seem to make sense of it.
[22:51] <wileee> Karyme, If you're running unity it would be in compiz generally.
[22:52] <Karyme> i am actually running elementary os currently, but my understanding is that they are very similar
[22:54] <wileee> Karyme, Only issue is no derivative support here is all, sorry. ;)
[22:55] <wileee> they have a channel very smal user base, just not the support yoo would get with ubuntu
[22:56] <wileee> s/small/you
[22:56] <kme> accidentally dced
[22:56] <cuddylier> Anyone know how I can stop the bottom part of the ip monitor in iptraf from moving so I can read it?
[22:59] <nemith> When i use openconnect VPN with NetworkManager it appends my local DNS to the DNS servers received from from the vpn
[22:59] <nemith> is there anyway to stop this?
[23:07] <CB6> Anyone know of any decent 1080p video editors for Ubuntu that are good?
[23:08] <Bashing-om> cuddylier: Depends, what commands are you running ? Such that maybe pipe the output through 'less' ?
[23:09] <CB6> Google showed an article that said Blender but when i looked Blender is for 3d animation
[23:11] <reisio> CB6: what is it you want to edit?
[23:12] <JethroTux> hello
[23:15] <YamakasY_> where does export place the export ?
[23:16] <JethroTux> got kernel panics when connecting any usb hardware like printer or any usb-pens. it doesn't occur instantly but after some minutes. I think it's about harware i tried looking at dmesg but no signs of kernel panic. any ideas? thanks
[23:18] <bekks> JethroTux: Take a look into /var/log/ at the timestamps the panics occur.
[23:19] <JethroTux> bekks, which files should I look at?
[23:20] <Bashing-om> YamakasY_: To the target that you speicfy . As in " export XAUTHORITY=/home/sysop/.Xauthority " .
[23:20] <wileee> YamakasY_, wherever you point it.
[23:20] <bekks> JethroTux: /var/log/syslog*
[23:22] <YamakasY_> wileee: yes ok, but I see it's temporary
[23:23] <YamakasY_> I wonder what I shall do, puppetize to set it in /etc/environment or not
[23:28] <Slender03> Hola
[23:28] <Slender03> si
[23:29] <ultragamecard> hola
[23:29] <Slender03> como estas
[23:29] <Slender03> noooo no te marshes
[23:29] <nicomachus> bueno, Slender03. A donde esta usted?
[23:29] <ultragamecard> habla  #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:30] <Slender03> esto
[23:30] <Slender03> es nesesario desirlo ?
[23:30] <nicomachus> !es | Slender03
[23:31] <Slender03> ok grasias
[23:31] <CB6> Nobody has any experience editing video raw video from video camera on Ubuntu?
[23:31] <EriC^^> CB6: openshot
[23:38] <hamstercups> whuddup
[23:38] <Slender03> hi
[23:39] <Slender03> what
[23:40] <wileee> Slender03, Do you have a support issue, in english?
[23:40] <svetlana> Hi Slender03.
[23:40] <svetlana> Hi hamstercups.
[23:40] <h0mer> any ubuntu/openstack gurus in here?
[23:41] <wileee> !ask | h0mer
[23:41] <h0mer> rgr
[23:41] <wileee> ;)
[23:42] <wileee> no one here would cop to guru but excellent support
[23:44] <h0mer> So i'm trying to set up my openstack/ubuntu instances using MAAS and I currently have two networks setup (192.168.20.0 with dhcp and 192.168.30.0 without dhcp), the .20 network is the internal network and the .30 is the external network.  Now I have the nodes recognized in MAAS and set it up such that every machine has one NIC connected to the .20 network and one to the .30 network.
[23:44] <steelbrain> Does anyone use autohotkey or similar here? Any usable alternatives for linux? or which language would be ideal to write such a package?
[23:44] <h0mer> now when I set up openstack through landscape everything works fine, but my instances (VM's) do not have any internet naccess
[23:44] <Slender03> d67ed7e7ee76f76rf6tr271010101010100101010101010100100100101000100010001000100010001000100010001000100010001010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010102101010010101010101010010101010100101010101100101010010010101001010101010100101
[23:45] <h0mer> any ideas how i'd go about debugging this issue
[23:45] <h0mer> ?
[23:45] <wileee> Slender03, If you continue the mods will address you in some manner.
[23:46] <Slender03> sorry :(
[23:46] <wileee> If you need some help, that's what we're here for
[23:47] <h0mer> thats why im here.. :D
[23:48] <wileee> h0mer, I know nothing in the server area, you might at some point check with #ubuntu-server  we se lots of support though here; in that area.
[23:48] <wileee> see*
[23:48] <h0mer> rgr i shall head over there
[23:48] <h0mer> ty
[23:48] <Slender03> AAAA IS NEW AND I AM NOT YOU TRY THIS
[23:49] <wileee> np
[23:49] <wileee> !ops | Slender03
[23:49] <h0mer> btw is there a dedicated ubuntu/openstack channel?  I don't see one on the channels list, but maybe im looking in the wrong place
[23:50] <phunyguy> Slender03: everything OK here?
[23:50] <Slender03> OK
[23:50] <Slender03> someone here can provide some paguina ME THE WEB DEEB
[23:51] <phunyguy> Slender03: you are not making any sense.
[23:51] <steelbrain> Wow :D
[23:51] <phunyguy> Slender03: I ask that you please start making sense, or you will be removed from the channel.
[23:52] <Slender03> deep web
[23:53] <jodie> you mean tor?
[23:53] <Slender03> yess deep web
[23:54] <squinty> dark not deep
[23:54] <Slender03> upps sorry
[23:55] <Slender03> good bay
[23:56] <Slender03> hola alguien aki
[23:56] <Slender03> bueno me boy
[23:56] <popey> Slender03: stop.
[23:57] <svetlana> Slender03: I do not speak that language. Sorry.
[23:59] <Gollond> Hello everyone :)