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xubuntu83wHello. Can somebody help me? I have problems with my root drive that is around 20 gb. It sais that is 99% full. I tried to delete something that had 160mb, and after 1 minute i checked, and now again, i have only .2 mb empty space06:38
mks1945xubuntu83w: show output    du -hs /var/log06:58
xubuntu83wI tried to write this message on console, but i received this message: du: cannot read directory ‘/var/log/speech-dispatcher’: Permission denied du: cannot read directory ‘/var/log/samba/cores’: Permission denied 9.5M/var/log07:03
xubuntu83wI tried to write this command, sorry07:04
xubuntu83wOk, i used terminal to autoclean, and i have 389 mb empty. I tried this sudo du -h /var/log, and the results are:  908K/var/log/installer 4.0K/var/log/speech-dispatcher 224K/var/log/apt 4.0K/var/log/samba/cores/nmbd 4.0K/var/log/samba/cores/winbindd 4.0K/var/log/samba/cores/smbd 16K/var/log/samba/cores 44K/var/log/samba 16K/var/log/cups 4.0K/var/log/unattended-upgrades 12K/var/log/fsck 700K/var/log/upstart 4.0K/var/l07:34
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knomexubuntu83w, it's likely something else that is your problem than those files07:35
knomeat least, the real problem...07:36
xubuntu83wAnd what can i try to detect it?07:58
mks1945xubuntu83w: i had same problem (i.e. del files but no free space changed). After reboot (or restart syslog) all was fine08:02
knomexubuntu83w, i would start with "sudo du -h --max-depth 1 /"08:03
knomexubuntu83w, then see what takes the most space in there08:04
xubuntu83wI tried this:08:05
xubuntu83wsudo du -h --max-depth 1 / 14M/etc du: cannot access ‘/run/user/1000/gvfs’: Permission denied 1.7M/run du: cannot access ‘/proc/3777/task/3777/fd/4’: No such file or directory du: cannot access ‘/proc/3777/task/3777/fdinfo/4’: No such file or directory du: cannot access ‘/proc/3777/fd/4’: No such file or directory du: cannot access ‘/proc/3777/fdinfo/4’: No such file or directory 0/proc 152M/opt 8.0K/medi08:05
knome!pastebin | xubuntu83w08:05
ubottuxubuntu83w: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.08:05
xubuntu83wSure08:06
xubuntu83whttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11908051/08:07
knomexubuntu83w, ok, you are sharing /home with /08:07
knomethat takes 13G of the 20G, so you should look what you can remove from your /home08:08
xubuntu83wIs this normal? To share /home with / ?08:09
knomeyes, it's "normal"08:09
xubuntu83wI installed the Xubuntu normally, not with dual boot, only automatic installation, not with manual steps08:10
xubuntu83wThe problem is that i don"t have personal files on the drive08:13
xubuntu83wAnd i don't know what to delete08:13
knomewhat does "du -h --max-depth 1 /home/YOURUSER/" say?08:14
xubuntu83whttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11908072/08:16
knomeok... i guess you have a large imap folder which you have just synced to your HD08:16
knomeis that correct?08:16
mks1945xubuntu83w: /home/radu/.thunderbird  compact folders08:16
xubuntu83wYes, this is true08:18
xubuntu83wBut in /home/radu i don't have this thunderbird folder08:19
knomeyes you do, it's a hidden directory08:20
mks1945xubuntu83w: press CTRL+H in thunar08:20
knomemks1945, ...i'll let you continue from here then08:21
mks1945xubuntu83w: open thunderbird delete old mals (and clean Trash), then go menu "File" then "Compress folders"08:23
xubuntu44wSorry, my chat disconnected. This was the problem, .thunderbird had around 14gb, i deleted it and now is ok08:31
mks1945congratilations!!!!! ^)08:36
xubuntu91wMy /dev/sda3 comes up as read only for root. How do I give users group read and write access?09:03
knomewhere is that partition mounted at?09:06
xubuntu91whow do I see that?09:07
knomemount09:07
xubuntu91wIts mounted on /dev/sda3 on /media/michelle/data type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2)09:09
xubuntu91win Thunar it comes up as root only read and write09:09
xubuntu71wI am unable to gain read write access to sda3, it shows as root only. Mount gives this../dev/sda3 on /media/michelle/data type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2)09:17
xubuntu71wunable to copy and paste into it09:18
xubuntu71wSuggestions?09:19
mks1945users must be in "plugdev" group. type "id" from user09:19
xubuntu71wuser ID is 100009:20
mks1945no, "id" is command09:21
mks1945in terminal type id (from user)09:21
xubuntu71wuser  shows as member of plugdev group09:21
xubuntu71wI installed Xubuntu on entire disk. Then used Gpart to shrink disk to create second primary disk for data storage. Now the data partition is only root read only.09:23
mks1945ok 1min please09:24
mks1945show your /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.udisks2.policy  (use pastebin)09:26
cfhowlett!permissions | xubuntu71w09:27
ubottuxubuntu71w: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions09:27
xubuntu71wDisk /dev/sda: 164.7 GB, 164696555520 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 20023 cylinders, total 321672960 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x000d5bf8     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sda1   *        2048   143486975    71742464   83  Linux /dev/sda2       3132809:27
xubuntu71wThis is an entire partition.09:30
xubuntu71wsda309:30
xubuntu71wIs there not a command that gives read/write permissions for single user to sda3?09:31
xubuntu71wsudo chown perhaps09:34
cfhowlettindeed09:35
mks1945check your /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.udisks2.policy http://pastebin.com/8Y5JtudJ  see lines 71-74 and 136-13809:35
xubuntu71wThat makes no sense to me.09:40
mks1945make reboot09:41
mks1945it works 100%09:41
xubuntu71w"umount /media/sda3 chown user:user /media/sda3 mount -va"09:42
xubuntu69wHello i installed xubuntu but i dont have a network driver. What can i do?10:01
xubuntu69wUhh10:03
mks1945show lspci10:03
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OzbrkHi guys I found a linux unfriendly wierless card (in 2015 yes this is not a joke) so how can I report the card to the developers team?11:15
knomethe developer team does not take submissions of that kind11:16
knomeplease report to the manufacturer11:16
OzbrkOk thanks11:16
knomeyou can also try to file a bug against the drivers that should (whatever that means...) handle your card and see if the developers for that driver had any insight on it - or were willing to make it work11:16
OzbrkI don't even know how can I founs something like that dven the oldest wierless cards are workinv without the ndiswrapper today11:18
mks1945what is the card? just interesting11:19
OzbrkTp Link TL-WN727N11:21
OzbrkAccutaly a usb wierless adapter11:21
mks1945 Ozbrk : maybe you already try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/577941/installing-the-driver-for-tp-link-tl-wn727n-on-ubuntu-14-0411:28
OzbrkWow never seen that that means there is a spessific installation methot for this wierless card isn't it11:36
mks1945I agree, it is perversion :)11:38
rj_hello I have a simple problem to which i am unable to find the solution. so help me if you can12:58
rj_My scandisk PenDrive has turned read only12:59
rj_i tried formatting it from terminal didn't work. i tried  (-type f -exec chmod 666 {} \;) as suggest in one forum didnt work and i even tried dosfsck -a13:01
rj_non worked13:02
holsteinrj_: well, the device could be failing, so, i wouldnt dismiss that as an option.. what is the error when you try and make the device writeable?13:03
holsteinis it fat32?13:04
rj_yes13:15
rj_sudo parted -l gives this13:16
rj_http://imgur.com/4EN6u6w13:16
holsteinrj_: i think your command is overly complex13:20
holsteinrj_: i would simply try, in a terminal, mounting to a mount point, and chowning the directory.. i would confim path's, and use the entire path in the command, and share errors13:20
holsteinwhen it gets slow here, i would use #ubuntu for support related to it, since, its not related to xubuntu or xfce directly13:21
rj_can you guide me as a laymen13:21
holsteinhttps://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2012/06/07/ubuntu-hardware-permissions-how-to-set-ownership-of-drive-or-partition-internal-external-hard-disks/13:22
rj_i am not new to the whole linux as os13:22
rj_srry i am new is wht i meant13:22
holsteinrj_: you should be able to simply right click, and set permissions.. i do not know what is wrong in your particular setup13:22
rj_yes i tried that to13:23
rj_but after i close the gui13:23
holsteinsudo chown -R myusername:myusername '/path/to/location'13:23
rj_it reverts back and no permission change is applied13:23
rj_thus i tried terminal13:23
holsteinrj_: thats a different issue, completely. you state, you *cannot* set permissions.. you are simply trying to make them persistent, then?13:24
rj_ok to put it simply13:25
rj_i m trying to make my usb pendrive usb pendrive again13:25
holsteinrj_: thats unclear, to me, as well13:25
rj_i dont know how but somehow it turned to read only access13:25
holsteinrj_: that can be due to breakage. so, the actual physical device can be, and *will* fail, eventually13:25
rj_i can still read the files inside13:26
holsteini would test, and confirm that its not breaking.. and backup the device.. i would backup, and move the data, and repartition it..13:26
rj_just not able to make changes13:26
rj_ok so how would i go about that. to check if its breaking. and try repair it13:27
rj_if at all possible13:27
holsteinrj_: ? as i said, i would backup, and move the data, and re-partition, and test..13:27
holsteinrj_: you cant "repair" if its phyiscally broken.. and im not saying it is.. im just stating, that they all will break, and thats a possibility, that i have seen, personally, cause odd issues like that13:28
rj_i understand that things break over time13:29
rj_n it maybe the case13:29
rj_but it has not undergone any physical activity that can damage it except moving from my one drawer to other.13:30
rj_what i think might have cause this is13:30
rj_last week i made it a bootable drive for trying out ubuntu on my laptop suing startup disc creator13:31
holsteinrj_: sure. and thats all i suggest that you address.. is that, you "think", and dont know. *all* drives will fail, and its not in any way obvious what will/can cause the failure13:31
holsteinrj_: what would i do? again, friend.. simply backup the data.. properly back it up where you feel "safe" about the copies, etc.. wipe the drive, and reformat..13:32
rj_and after i was done. as there is no direct right click format option in ubuntu as windows, i just opend the drive and shift deleted all13:32
holsteinrj_: if you broke the structure, trying to implement a feature, you will need to repair it13:32
rj_copied some movie and this is where we are now. its showing error after a week.13:33
rj_i do not care about the data inside it my friend. i just want to be able to use it as normal again.13:34
rj_so that is what i was asking.13:34
holsteinrj_: sure.. simply backup *all* data, and reformat13:34
rj_how would i go about repairing it if possible13:34
rj_i am unable to format it from terminal13:34
holsteinrj_: again, friend.. you will backup the data, and reformat13:34
holsteinrj_: please use gparted GUI, and share any errors, so that a volunteer can assist..13:35
cfhowlettrj_, fdisk if no gui13:35
rj_ok i will try gpart now. earlier i tried to format from terminal using mkfs.vfat -n 'name' -I /dev/sdb113:37
rj_which did not work13:37
cfhowlettrj_, do it again with | pastebin       then share the url13:38
rj_it said mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sdb1: read-only file system13:38
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WyRehi guys! :D how could i enable suspend when system is idle while screen is locked?18:07
WyRei'm managing power trought logind.conf in systemd but when screen is locked the system cannot go to suspend (after idle time)18:08
WyReshould i configure policy rules or something'18:08
WyRe?18:08
WyRexfce4-power-manager is ignored, because i should use logind.conf18:09
nomicturn off screen lock18:10
nomicscreen lock locks everything out18:10
nomicnot sure18:10
WyRenomic, i want screen lock :(18:10
nomicshy do you need screen lock18:10
nomicok18:10
nomicsuspend, you're effectively logged out18:11
nomicnot sure it's possible18:11
nomicyou're going to have to login then suspend18:11
nomiceach time18:11
nomicjust 1 more operation18:11
nomicalso you check your mail :)18:11
WyRenomic, some time ago i do that editing policy rules , ... but i not remember how18:12
nomicmaybe its logged on ubuntu forums18:13
nomichttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2239861&highlight=suspend+screen+lock+policy+rules18:14
nomic"Update 17-8-'14:18:14
nomicI managed to get suspend working from the lock screen by editing /etc/systemd/logind.conf and un-commenting and changing minutes:18:14
nomicIdleAction=suspend18:14
nomicIdleActionSec=15min18:14
nomic"18:14
nomicahve entered "suspend lock screen policy rules" into ubuntu forum search18:14
WyRenomic, yes, that's topic .. :D suspending while screen is locked xD18:15
nomicwell he has a fix there ^18:15
WyRenomic, i have already make my power setup in logind.conf :D18:16
WyRebut i need when screen is locked the system go suspend :P18:16
nomicask on #ubuntu .. is more busy18:19
WyRe:D18:19
nomicalso ask by posting a question on ubuntu forums18:19
nomicso people work on your problem while you are asleep (or suspended) ... make sure you post it to the right place in forums (gui desktop xubuntu etc)18:19
nomicxfce18:20
WyRenomic, and... why xfce4-power-manager is ignored? :(18:22
WyReand how change i between logind.conf managin or xfce4-power-manager?18:22
nomicfurther than i've ever looked18:23
nomiclogind = detailed settings18:23
WyRenomic, i think that i have this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/130754518:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1307545 in light-locker (Ubuntu) "Power Manager settings are ignored when closing laptop lid" [Undecided,Fix released]18:44
WyRebut muy power manager is ignored always :(18:45
nomicany problems on xubuntu are 'ubuntu' - ask in #ubuntu its busier there18:47
knomeWyRe, then it's likely not that bug18:47
knomenomic, except things related to eg. xfce4-power-manager, which are xubuntu-specific18:48
WyReknome, but... why my xfce4-power-manager is ignored always then?18:49
knomeWyRe, i don't have the answer18:49
knomethat bug happens on very specific situations, so it's likely to be a different bug than yours if your settings are always ignored18:50
WyReknome, well... i am trying a workaround using logind.conf18:51
WyReof systemd18:51
WyRebut now i need enable suspend feature while screen is locked18:52
knomegood luck.18:52
WyReknome, why good luck? xD18:52
knomewhy not?18:52
knomei hope you get your issue fixed, that's all18:52
WyReah ok ... i thought u was sarcastic xD18:53
knomethat said, i don't know if logind is the way to go, but i don't know better either, so, good luck with that effort18:53
knomewould i ever be sarcastic?18:53
knome(but no, i wasn't this time)18:53
WyReso much thanks :D18:54
WyReknome, there is some way to alternate between logind.conf and xfce4-power-manager?18:54
knomei don't know18:55
w30Does anyone know a way to keep a particular user off the user list on the login gui ?  lightdm I think it is21:04
geniiYes, for all users except Guest21:12
w30genii, ahah, I found it /etc/lightdm/users.conf21:15
ValziNETHey! :)21:37
MrVampsanyone know if it is possible to move which display the DM appears on? i have a laptop with a busted panel, and am using an external FP, and would like the DM to appear there.23:23

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