[06:38] <xubuntu83w> Hello. Can somebody help me? I have problems with my root drive that is around 20 gb. It sais that is 99% full. I tried to delete something that had 160mb, and after 1 minute i checked, and now again, i have only .2 mb empty space
[06:58] <mks1945> xubuntu83w: show output    du -hs /var/log
[07:03] <xubuntu83w> I tried to write this message on console, but i received this message: du: cannot read directory ‘/var/log/speech-dispatcher’: Permission denied du: cannot read directory ‘/var/log/samba/cores’: Permission denied 9.5M	/var/log
[07:04] <xubuntu83w> I tried to write this command, sorry
[07:34] <xubuntu83w> Ok, i used terminal to autoclean, and i have 389 mb empty. I tried this sudo du -h /var/log, and the results are:  908K	/var/log/installer 4.0K	/var/log/speech-dispatcher 224K	/var/log/apt 4.0K	/var/log/samba/cores/nmbd 4.0K	/var/log/samba/cores/winbindd 4.0K	/var/log/samba/cores/smbd 16K	/var/log/samba/cores 44K	/var/log/samba 16K	/var/log/cups 4.0K	/var/log/unattended-upgrades 12K	/var/log/fsck 700K	/var/log/upstart 4.0K	/var/l
[07:35] <knome> xubuntu83w, it's likely something else that is your problem than those files
[07:36] <knome> at least, the real problem...
[07:58] <xubuntu83w> And what can i try to detect it?
[08:02] <mks1945> xubuntu83w: i had same problem (i.e. del files but no free space changed). After reboot (or restart syslog) all was fine
[08:03] <knome> xubuntu83w, i would start with "sudo du -h --max-depth 1 /"
[08:04] <knome> xubuntu83w, then see what takes the most space in there
[08:05] <xubuntu83w> I tried this:
[08:05] <xubuntu83w> sudo du -h --max-depth 1 / 14M	/etc du: cannot access ‘/run/user/1000/gvfs’: Permission denied 1.7M	/run du: cannot access ‘/proc/3777/task/3777/fd/4’: No such file or directory du: cannot access ‘/proc/3777/task/3777/fdinfo/4’: No such file or directory du: cannot access ‘/proc/3777/fd/4’: No such file or directory du: cannot access ‘/proc/3777/fdinfo/4’: No such file or directory 0	/proc 152M	/opt 8.0K	/medi
[08:05] <knome> !pastebin | xubuntu83w
[08:06] <xubuntu83w> Sure
[08:07] <xubuntu83w> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11908051/
[08:07] <knome> xubuntu83w, ok, you are sharing /home with /
[08:08] <knome> that takes 13G of the 20G, so you should look what you can remove from your /home
[08:09] <xubuntu83w> Is this normal? To share /home with / ?
[08:09] <knome> yes, it's "normal"
[08:10] <xubuntu83w> I installed the Xubuntu normally, not with dual boot, only automatic installation, not with manual steps
[08:13] <xubuntu83w> The problem is that i don"t have personal files on the drive
[08:13] <xubuntu83w> And i don't know what to delete
[08:14] <knome> what does "du -h --max-depth 1 /home/YOURUSER/" say?
[08:16] <xubuntu83w> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11908072/
[08:16] <knome> ok... i guess you have a large imap folder which you have just synced to your HD
[08:16] <knome> is that correct?
[08:16] <mks1945> xubuntu83w: /home/radu/.thunderbird  compact folders
[08:18] <xubuntu83w> Yes, this is true
[08:19] <xubuntu83w> But in /home/radu i don't have this thunderbird folder
[08:20] <knome> yes you do, it's a hidden directory
[08:20] <mks1945> xubuntu83w: press CTRL+H in thunar
[08:21] <knome> mks1945, ...i'll let you continue from here then
[08:23] <mks1945> xubuntu83w: open thunderbird delete old mals (and clean Trash), then go menu "File" then "Compress folders"
[08:31] <xubuntu44w> Sorry, my chat disconnected. This was the problem, .thunderbird had around 14gb, i deleted it and now is ok
[08:36] <mks1945> congratilations!!!!! ^)
[09:03] <xubuntu91w> My /dev/sda3 comes up as read only for root. How do I give users group read and write access?
[09:06] <knome> where is that partition mounted at?
[09:07] <xubuntu91w> how do I see that?
[09:07] <knome> mount
[09:09] <xubuntu91w> Its mounted on /dev/sda3 on /media/michelle/data type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2)
[09:09] <xubuntu91w> in Thunar it comes up as root only read and write
[09:17] <xubuntu71w> I am unable to gain read write access to sda3, it shows as root only. Mount gives this../dev/sda3 on /media/michelle/data type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2)
[09:18] <xubuntu71w> unable to copy and paste into it
[09:19] <xubuntu71w> Suggestions?
[09:19] <mks1945> users must be in "plugdev" group. type "id" from user
[09:20] <xubuntu71w> user ID is 1000
[09:21] <mks1945> no, "id" is command
[09:21] <mks1945> in terminal type id (from user)
[09:21] <xubuntu71w> user  shows as member of plugdev group
[09:23] <xubuntu71w> I installed Xubuntu on entire disk. Then used Gpart to shrink disk to create second primary disk for data storage. Now the data partition is only root read only.
[09:24] <mks1945> ok 1min please
[09:26] <mks1945> show your /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.udisks2.policy  (use pastebin)
[09:27] <cfhowlett> !permissions | xubuntu71w
[09:27] <xubuntu71w> Disk /dev/sda: 164.7 GB, 164696555520 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 20023 cylinders, total 321672960 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x000d5bf8     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sda1   *        2048   143486975    71742464   83  Linux /dev/sda2       31328
[09:30] <xubuntu71w> This is an entire partition.
[09:30] <xubuntu71w> sda3
[09:31] <xubuntu71w> Is there not a command that gives read/write permissions for single user to sda3?
[09:34] <xubuntu71w> sudo chown perhaps
[09:35] <cfhowlett> indeed
[09:35] <mks1945> check your /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.udisks2.policy http://pastebin.com/8Y5JtudJ  see lines 71-74 and 136-138
[09:40] <xubuntu71w> That makes no sense to me.
[09:41] <mks1945> make reboot
[09:41] <mks1945> it works 100%
[09:42] <xubuntu71w> "umount /media/sda3 chown user:user /media/sda3 mount -va"
[10:01] <xubuntu69w> Hello i installed xubuntu but i dont have a network driver. What can i do?
[10:03] <xubuntu69w> Uhh
[10:03] <mks1945> show lspci
[11:15] <Ozbrk> Hi guys I found a linux unfriendly wierless card (in 2015 yes this is not a joke) so how can I report the card to the developers team?
[11:16] <knome> the developer team does not take submissions of that kind
[11:16] <knome> please report to the manufacturer
[11:16] <Ozbrk> Ok thanks
[11:16] <knome> you can also try to file a bug against the drivers that should (whatever that means...) handle your card and see if the developers for that driver had any insight on it - or were willing to make it work
[11:18] <Ozbrk> I don't even know how can I founs something like that dven the oldest wierless cards are workinv without the ndiswrapper today
[11:19] <mks1945> what is the card? just interesting
[11:21] <Ozbrk> Tp Link TL-WN727N
[11:21] <Ozbrk> Accutaly a usb wierless adapter
[11:28] <mks1945>  Ozbrk : maybe you already try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/577941/installing-the-driver-for-tp-link-tl-wn727n-on-ubuntu-14-04
[11:36] <Ozbrk> Wow never seen that that means there is a spessific installation methot for this wierless card isn't it
[11:38] <mks1945> I agree, it is perversion :)
[12:58] <rj_> hello I have a simple problem to which i am unable to find the solution. so help me if you can
[12:59] <rj_> My scandisk PenDrive has turned read only
[13:01] <rj_> i tried formatting it from terminal didn't work. i tried  (-type f -exec chmod 666 {} \;) as suggest in one forum didnt work and i even tried dosfsck -a
[13:02] <rj_> non worked
[13:03] <holstein> rj_: well, the device could be failing, so, i wouldnt dismiss that as an option.. what is the error when you try and make the device writeable?
[13:04] <holstein> is it fat32?
[13:15] <rj_> yes
[13:16] <rj_> sudo parted -l gives this
[13:16] <rj_> http://imgur.com/4EN6u6w
[13:20] <holstein> rj_: i think your command is overly complex
[13:20] <holstein> rj_: i would simply try, in a terminal, mounting to a mount point, and chowning the directory.. i would confim path's, and use the entire path in the command, and share errors
[13:21] <holstein> when it gets slow here, i would use #ubuntu for support related to it, since, its not related to xubuntu or xfce directly
[13:21] <rj_> can you guide me as a laymen
[13:22] <holstein> https://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2012/06/07/ubuntu-hardware-permissions-how-to-set-ownership-of-drive-or-partition-internal-external-hard-disks/
[13:22] <rj_> i am not new to the whole linux as os
[13:22] <rj_> srry i am new is wht i meant
[13:22] <holstein> rj_: you should be able to simply right click, and set permissions.. i do not know what is wrong in your particular setup
[13:23] <rj_> yes i tried that to
[13:23] <rj_> but after i close the gui
[13:23] <holstein> sudo chown -R myusername:myusername '/path/to/location'
[13:23] <rj_> it reverts back and no permission change is applied
[13:23] <rj_> thus i tried terminal
[13:24] <holstein> rj_: thats a different issue, completely. you state, you *cannot* set permissions.. you are simply trying to make them persistent, then?
[13:25] <rj_> ok to put it simply
[13:25] <rj_> i m trying to make my usb pendrive usb pendrive again
[13:25] <holstein> rj_: thats unclear, to me, as well
[13:25] <rj_> i dont know how but somehow it turned to read only access
[13:25] <holstein> rj_: that can be due to breakage. so, the actual physical device can be, and *will* fail, eventually
[13:26] <rj_> i can still read the files inside
[13:26] <holstein> i would test, and confirm that its not breaking.. and backup the device.. i would backup, and move the data, and repartition it..
[13:26] <rj_> just not able to make changes
[13:27] <rj_> ok so how would i go about that. to check if its breaking. and try repair it
[13:27] <rj_> if at all possible
[13:27] <holstein> rj_: ? as i said, i would backup, and move the data, and re-partition, and test..
[13:28] <holstein> rj_: you cant "repair" if its phyiscally broken.. and im not saying it is.. im just stating, that they all will break, and thats a possibility, that i have seen, personally, cause odd issues like that
[13:29] <rj_> i understand that things break over time
[13:29] <rj_> n it maybe the case
[13:30] <rj_> but it has not undergone any physical activity that can damage it except moving from my one drawer to other.
[13:30] <rj_> what i think might have cause this is
[13:31] <rj_> last week i made it a bootable drive for trying out ubuntu on my laptop suing startup disc creator
[13:31] <holstein> rj_: sure. and thats all i suggest that you address.. is that, you "think", and dont know. *all* drives will fail, and its not in any way obvious what will/can cause the failure
[13:32] <holstein> rj_: what would i do? again, friend.. simply backup the data.. properly back it up where you feel "safe" about the copies, etc.. wipe the drive, and reformat..
[13:32] <rj_> and after i was done. as there is no direct right click format option in ubuntu as windows, i just opend the drive and shift deleted all
[13:32] <holstein> rj_: if you broke the structure, trying to implement a feature, you will need to repair it
[13:33] <rj_> copied some movie and this is where we are now. its showing error after a week.
[13:34] <rj_> i do not care about the data inside it my friend. i just want to be able to use it as normal again.
[13:34] <rj_> so that is what i was asking.
[13:34] <holstein> rj_: sure.. simply backup *all* data, and reformat
[13:34] <rj_> how would i go about repairing it if possible
[13:34] <rj_> i am unable to format it from terminal
[13:34] <holstein> rj_: again, friend.. you will backup the data, and reformat
[13:35] <holstein> rj_: please use gparted GUI, and share any errors, so that a volunteer can assist..
[13:35] <cfhowlett> rj_, fdisk if no gui
[13:37] <rj_> ok i will try gpart now. earlier i tried to format from terminal using mkfs.vfat -n 'name' -I /dev/sdb1
[13:37] <rj_> which did not work
[13:38] <cfhowlett> rj_, do it again with | pastebin       then share the url
[13:38] <rj_> it said mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sdb1: read-only file system
[18:07] <WyRe> hi guys! :D how could i enable suspend when system is idle while screen is locked?
[18:08] <WyRe> i'm managing power trought logind.conf in systemd but when screen is locked the system cannot go to suspend (after idle time)
[18:08] <WyRe> should i configure policy rules or something'
[18:08] <WyRe> ?
[18:09] <WyRe> xfce4-power-manager is ignored, because i should use logind.conf
[18:10] <nomic> turn off screen lock
[18:10] <nomic> screen lock locks everything out
[18:10] <nomic> not sure
[18:10] <WyRe> nomic, i want screen lock :(
[18:10] <nomic> shy do you need screen lock
[18:10] <nomic> ok
[18:11] <nomic> suspend, you're effectively logged out
[18:11] <nomic> not sure it's possible
[18:11] <nomic> you're going to have to login then suspend
[18:11] <nomic> each time
[18:11] <nomic> just 1 more operation
[18:11] <nomic> also you check your mail :)
[18:12] <WyRe> nomic, some time ago i do that editing policy rules , ... but i not remember how
[18:13] <nomic> maybe its logged on ubuntu forums
[18:14] <nomic> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2239861&highlight=suspend+screen+lock+policy+rules
[18:14] <nomic> "Update 17-8-'14:
[18:14] <nomic> I managed to get suspend working from the lock screen by editing /etc/systemd/logind.conf and un-commenting and changing minutes:
[18:14] <nomic> IdleAction=suspend
[18:14] <nomic> IdleActionSec=15min
[18:14] <nomic> "
[18:14] <nomic> ahve entered "suspend lock screen policy rules" into ubuntu forum search
[18:15] <WyRe> nomic, yes, that's topic .. :D suspending while screen is locked xD
[18:15] <nomic> well he has a fix there ^
[18:16] <WyRe> nomic, i have already make my power setup in logind.conf :D
[18:16] <WyRe> but i need when screen is locked the system go suspend :P
[18:19] <nomic> ask on #ubuntu .. is more busy
[18:19] <WyRe> :D
[18:19] <nomic> also ask by posting a question on ubuntu forums
[18:19] <nomic> so people work on your problem while you are asleep (or suspended) ... make sure you post it to the right place in forums (gui desktop xubuntu etc)
[18:20] <nomic> xfce
[18:22] <WyRe> nomic, and... why xfce4-power-manager is ignored? :(
[18:22] <WyRe> and how change i between logind.conf managin or xfce4-power-manager?
[18:23] <nomic> further than i've ever looked
[18:23] <nomic> logind = detailed settings
[18:44] <WyRe> nomic, i think that i have this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1307545
[18:45] <WyRe> but muy power manager is ignored always :(
[18:47] <nomic> any problems on xubuntu are 'ubuntu' - ask in #ubuntu its busier there
[18:47] <knome> WyRe, then it's likely not that bug
[18:48] <knome> nomic, except things related to eg. xfce4-power-manager, which are xubuntu-specific
[18:49] <WyRe> knome, but... why my xfce4-power-manager is ignored always then?
[18:49] <knome> WyRe, i don't have the answer
[18:50] <knome> that bug happens on very specific situations, so it's likely to be a different bug than yours if your settings are always ignored
[18:51] <WyRe> knome, well... i am trying a workaround using logind.conf
[18:51] <WyRe> of systemd
[18:52] <WyRe> but now i need enable suspend feature while screen is locked
[18:52] <knome> good luck.
[18:52] <WyRe> knome, why good luck? xD
[18:52] <knome> why not?
[18:52] <knome> i hope you get your issue fixed, that's all
[18:53] <WyRe> ah ok ... i thought u was sarcastic xD
[18:53] <knome> that said, i don't know if logind is the way to go, but i don't know better either, so, good luck with that effort
[18:53] <knome> would i ever be sarcastic?
[18:53] <knome> (but no, i wasn't this time)
[18:54] <WyRe> so much thanks :D
[18:54] <WyRe> knome, there is some way to alternate between logind.conf and xfce4-power-manager?
[18:55] <knome> i don't know
[21:04] <w30> Does anyone know a way to keep a particular user off the user list on the login gui ?  lightdm I think it is
[21:12] <genii> Yes, for all users except Guest
[21:15] <w30> genii, ahah, I found it /etc/lightdm/users.conf
[21:37] <ValziNET> Hey! :)
[23:23] <MrVamps> anyone know if it is possible to move which display the DM appears on? i have a laptop with a busted panel, and am using an external FP, and would like the DM to appear there.