[01:02] <|aaron> after the latest kernel update when i reboot i just get a black screen. i know its related to my quadro k4200 video card, it always gives me problems after updates… ive tried (re)installing every possible version of the nvidia proprietary drivers but i get the same result no matter what. help!
[01:15] <Finetundra> hey guys, can I ask questions about running games running under wine on kubuntu in here?
[08:14] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:58] <naftilos76> Hi, i am on kubuntu 15.04 and when droping to a console (CTRL+ALT+F1) my language (greek) is not shown correctly. Could this be a package problem?
[08:59] <lordievader> naftilos76: Your tty is likely not using utf-8
[09:00] <naftilos76> Oh, thanks. Can i somehow enable utf8 in mu vconsoles?
[09:01] <naftilos76> lordievader?
[09:01] <lordievader> From the top of my head no idea. And unfortunately I do not have time right now to look for it, sorry.
[09:02] <naftilos76> no pro
[09:37] <prillian5> I have installed kde 4.14.6 with QT 4.8.6. If I do a SIP-Call with telepathy, my voice sounds in slow-motion on the other side of the line.
[09:37] <prillian5> any idea why?
[12:17] <Guest16631> hello
[12:17] <Guest16631> anybody here?
[12:19] <Guest16631> no one?
[12:19] <Guest16631> help !!!
[12:20] <bshah> !ask
[12:20] <Guest16631> i have ubuntu version 64 bit
[12:21] <Guest16631> but i can not here any voice
[12:21] <Guest16631> i  have checked driver , it is OK
[12:21] <Guest16631> system setting ->sound settint is gray
[12:22] <Guest16631> anybody know how to do ？
[12:27] <murthy_> Guest16631: hi
[12:28] <murthy_> Guest16631: we will talk here
[12:28] <Guest16631> ok
[12:28] <murthy_> Guest16631: is the process pulseaudio running?
[12:29] <Guest16631> i checked with ps
[12:29] <Guest16631> it is runing
[12:29] <murthy_> Guest16631: do you see in the task manager?
[12:29] <Guest16631> yes, but i can not start it
[12:30] <murthy_> Guest16631: did you try a restart of the system?
[12:30] <Guest16631> yes
[12:30] <Guest16631> it useless
[12:30] <murthy_> Guest16631: ok, open a konsole
[12:30] <Guest16631> ok
[12:30] <murthy_> Guest16631: type alsamixer and press enter
[12:31] <murthy_> Guest16631: what do you see?
[12:31] <Guest16631> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[12:31] <Guest16631> system output
[12:31] <murthy_> Guest16631: ok you need to reload the alsa drivers. I will tell you how
[12:32] <Guest16631> thank you
[12:33] <murthy_> Guest16631: try this command   alsamixer force-reload
[12:34] <murthy_> Guest16631: sudo alsamixer force-reload
[12:34] <Guest16631> ok
[12:34] <lordievader> Shouldn't that be 'alsa force-reload'?
[12:34] <murthy_> lordievader: why?
[12:35] <murthy_> oops
[12:35] <murthy_> lordievader: i think its more like alsactl
[12:35] <Guest16631> i confused,which one?
[12:36] <murthy_> lordievader: I forgot the command and  I just copied that from a forum
[12:36] <murthy_> Guest16631: wait
[12:36] <murthy_> Guest16631: let me check the manual
[12:36] <Guest16631> thanks
[12:37] <lordievader> Guest16631: While he is doing that, could you pastebin the output of 'lspci -k|grep -A2 Audio'?
[12:37] <Guest16631> ok
[12:37] <Guest16631> 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller (rev 06)
[12:37] <Guest16631>         Subsystem: Lenovo Device 3098
[12:37] <Guest16631>         Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
[12:37] <Guest16631> --
[12:37] <Guest16631> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[12:37] <Guest16631>         Subsystem: Lenovo Device 3098
[12:37] <Guest16631>         Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
[12:37] <Guest16631> system output
[12:38] <lordievader> !paste | Guest16631
[12:38] <lordievader> Guest16631: That looks fine, what is the output of 'aplay -l'?
[12:39] <murthy_> Guest16631: the command is    sudo alsa force-reload
[12:39] <murthy_> lordievader: you are right
[12:39] <Guest16631> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[12:39] <Guest16631> card 1: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC662 rev3 Analog [ALC662 rev3 Analog]
[12:39] <Guest16631>   Subdevices: 0/1
[12:39] <Guest16631>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[12:39] <lordievader> murthy_: ;)
[12:39] <murthy_> Guest16631: stop pasting
[12:39] <lordievader> Guest16631: Please use pastebin next time.
[12:39] <Guest16631> how ?
[12:39] <lordievader> !paste | Guest16631
[12:40] <murthy_> Guest16631: ok did you run the command?
[12:40] <Guest16631> i am trying
[12:41] <Guest16631> i have runned command
[12:42] <Guest16631> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11914296/
[12:42] <Guest16631> system output
[12:42] <murthy_> lordievader: This had happened to be earlier, why this happening with the alsa? driver bug?
[12:43] <lordievader> murthy_: Are you jumping to conclusions?
[12:43] <lordievader> Guest16631: Does your audio work now?
[12:43] <murthy_> lordievader: you mean in the case of Guest16631?
[12:43] <Guest16631> i don't know
[12:44] <Guest16631> i can't here any voice
[12:44] <lordievader> Yes. You have performed one step in the troubleshooting process.
[12:44] <lordievader> Guest16631: Can you play audio?
[12:44] <BluesKaj> HI folks
[12:44] <Guest16631> no
[12:44] <murthy_> lordievader: I am looking forward to the wayland of audio
[12:44] <lordievader> murthy_: But Pulseaudio is great!
[12:44] <murthy_> BluesKaj: hi
[12:44] <lordievader> And not likely to go away.
[12:44] <BluesKaj> hi murthy_, lordievader
[12:45] <Guest16631> when i use player to play mp3, player will gone away
[12:45] <murthy_> lordievader: ya, but not good enough
[12:45] <lordievader> Guest16631: Ah, do you hear audio when you run 'aplay /usr/share/alsa/Front_Center.wav'?
[12:45] <lordievader> murthy_: Not good enough how?
[12:45] <murthy_> Guest16631: try a system restart
[12:45] <lordievader> murthy_: Hold on.
[12:45] <lordievader> System restarts are rarely necessary.
[12:46] <lordievader> murthy_: Lets first troubleshoot this issue before doing random things.
[12:46] <murthy_> lordievader: not for noobs
[12:46] <murthy_> ok
[12:46] <Guest16631> /usr/share/alsa/Front_Center.wav: No such file or directory
[12:46] <lordievader> murthy_: PA works fine out of the box.
[12:46] <murthy_> Guest16631: try what lordievader suggests
[12:46] <Guest16631> system output
[12:46] <murthy_> lordievader: It ignores the low level stuff
[12:47] <lordievader> Guest16631: Err that should be: aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[12:47] <lordievader> murthy_: What low level stuff?
[12:47] <murthy_> lordievader: not exposing the  sound channels properly
[12:48] <lordievader> murthy_: That is alsa's job.
[12:48] <Guest16631> i can here voice when i run command ' aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav'
[12:49] <lordievader> Guest16631: Great, it ain't alsa.
[12:49] <murthy_> lordievader: I know pulseaudio made a huge difference but if that is enough then why people are working on a new one
[12:49] <lordievader> Guest16631: Do you hear something when you run 'paplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav'?
[12:50] <lordievader> murthy_: A new one?
[12:50] <Guest16631> yes
[12:50] <murthy_> lordievader: never mind
[12:50] <Guest16631> i can here voice,too
[12:50] <murthy_> lordievader: I got confused
[12:50] <lordievader> Guest16631: Pulse audio works too. What is the actual problem?
[12:51] <Guest16631> how to handle this problem?
[12:51] <lordievader> Guest16631: I don't know what the problem is, could you describe it clearly?
[12:52] <BluesKaj> pulse is a sound server that handles simultaneous audio sources if needed and some cards need it for web audio , most intel-hda chips don't need it and can run on their own with alsa..it addsanother layer audio processing , hence more inherent distortion
[12:52] <murthy_> ya
[12:52] <BluesKaj> that's mainly the complaint about PA
[12:53] <lordievader> Any audio chip should work with Alsa alone, but that ain't the point of Pulseaudio/
[12:53] <BluesKaj> lordievader,  not all can . my m-audio card needs pulse for web audio
[12:54] <Guest16631> guys, i have to go home ,tomorrow i will continue to slove this problem,tahnk you all
[12:54] <lordievader> That is hard to believe, pulseaudio does not talk to any sound card directly, Alsa does.
[12:54] <Guest16631> thank you all
[12:54] <BluesKaj> alsa doesn't play flsah audio on the m-audio card for some reason and I've never been able track down why that is
[12:55] <murthy_> lordievader: why is pulse audio only showing the main channel and not showing the lfe?
[12:55] <murthy_> lordievader: I mean through kmix
[12:55] <murthy_> lordievader: When using kmix with alsa it exposes all the channels
[12:55] <lordievader> murthy_: No idea.
[12:55] <lordievader> Rarely use kmix.
[12:55] <murthy_> lordievader: use alsamixer?
[12:56] <lordievader> murthy_: Pavucontrol
[14:30] <prillian5> have upgrade to 15.04 today. Now my PC starts much much slower than 14.10. Any Idea why?
[14:32] <lordievader> prillian5: Could you pastebin the output of 'sudo systemd-analyze blame'?
[14:34] <prillian5> https://paste.kde.org/pcgglf9x2
[14:35] <prillian5> lordievader: you see anything on the output to fix?
[14:36] <prillian5> most time is needed before the login on KDE
[14:39] <lordievader> prillian5: Is apache and mysql needed at boot?
[14:39] <lordievader> Also you are mostly waiting for your network devices.
[14:41] <prillian5> this seconds show there are not explain the time which is now needed to startup the system. I don't have use a timer to got exact time lapsed, but before System was after 30 seconds on kde-login, now on 15.04 it takes nearly 1,5 till 2 minutes
[14:42] <lordievader> Is that the same with a new profile?
[14:45] <prillian5> lordievader: I only have done the upgrade by muon
[14:45] <prillian5> no other changes at all
[14:45] <lordievader> prillian5: Hence the question.
[14:46] <prillian5> don't understand what you mean
[14:46] <lordievader> prillian5: Well the problem might lie in your kde profile. So you make a new user to see if the problem persists.
[14:47] <prillian5> but the time elapsed "before" the login Splash appear
[14:47] <lordievader> prillian5: Ah then I misunderstood.
[14:48] <lordievader> So the booting?
[14:48] <prillian5> I press ESC to see whats going on there, but screen leave black, till login appear.
[14:48] <prillian5> Strange behavior
[14:53] <lordievader> prillian5: You could start by disabeling apache and mysql on boot.
[14:53] <prillian5> lordievader: you think apache is so much slower than on kubuntu 14.x ?
[14:54] <prillian5> And mysql is need for Kde ... like nepomuk or akonadi?
[14:54] <lordievader> No, but both combined shaves of two seconds of your boot time.
[14:54] <lordievader> Not the mysql server.
[14:57] <naftilos76> Hi, my laptop has hybrid graphics and the only options that work are the intel and the nouveau. Nvidia options do not. I get a black screen or i get pushed back to the login screen. I have seen a few post threads which talk about nvidia prime or bublebee or whatever that is. Will that make any difference? What are my options here?
[14:58] <naftilos76> I am on kubuntu 15.04
[14:58] <naftilos76> My nvidia is a Geforce 840M
[15:00] <murthy> lordievader: isn't sql used by some of kde's components>
[15:00] <naftilos76> i have added a repo "ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa" which adds more recent nvidia drivers which do not work as well
[15:00] <lordievader> murthy: It is used yes.
[15:00] <murthy> lordievader: so we shouldn't disable sql right?
[15:01] <lordievader> They bring their own sql database. No need to run mysql itself.
[15:01] <murthy> ok
[15:06] <yossarianuk> naftilos76: I would avoid the xorg-edgers PPA  it can also upgrade various other packages
[15:06] <yossarianuk> best to grab the binary from nvidia.com
[15:06] <naftilos76> it did upgrade a few other packages. I had to try!
[15:07] <naftilos76> I tried the binary from nvidia but when i jump into a console and try to install it with sudo i am warned that an x session is running and so i cannot continue
[15:08] <yossarianuk> naftilos76: its a fairly complex thing to do - this is why ubuntu should just have the latest package as an option....
[15:08] <naftilos76> that happens even if i am logged out
[15:08] <yossarianuk> you have to
[15:08] <yossarianuk> 1) go to console - sudo service sddm stop
[15:08] <naftilos76> oh, yes
[15:09] <naftilos76> i knew that but i did not do it!
[15:09] <yossarianuk> 2) add nouveua to blacklist module - recreate initrd - reboot
[15:09] <yossarianuk> 3) go to console again
[15:09] <yossarianuk> 4) install Nvidia driver
[15:09] <naftilos76> i am not sure how to do the second stage
[15:09] <yossarianuk> 5) reboot
[15:09] <yossarianuk> bear in mind you can end up with a system with just a black screen.
[15:10] <naftilos76> i think i will stay for now with nouveau
[15:10] <naftilos76> i have got some coding to do...
[15:10] <naftilos76> thanks anyway
[15:12] <BluesKaj> !licence
[15:15] <yossarianuk> naftilos76: I would never settle for nouveau in its present state.
[15:16] <yossarianuk> yes its open source but yor will lose 60-80% in speed.
[15:16] <yossarianuk> and you cannot play any openGL4.x app/game.
[15:17] <naftilos76> I have no choice for the moment. I am not a gamer in any way. The most demanding 3d app i run could be glxgears :-)
[15:17] <naftilos76> I am trying to get it done though
[15:17] <naftilos76> i keep googling
[15:23] <yossarianuk> naftilos76: my point would be whats the point in spending money on a card then underclocking it by up to 80%
[15:24] <yossarianuk> may as well run onboard...
[15:25] <naftilos76> yossarianuk: Your point is right :-)
[15:25] <lordievader> Because 80% is more than 0% :P
[15:45] <yossarianuk> the lack of latest nvidia driver is a personal pet hate about most distros....
[15:45] <yossarianuk> and it constantly causes users issues (and harms the linux desktop)
[15:53] <DDR> Hi all. I have a program I'm writing, but for the moment ctrl-f (for fullscreen) renders the desktop unusable. I use to be able to use one of my TTY terminals to kill the offending process, but those are broken on my new computer. Is there any way to recover my session?
[15:54] <DDR> There are many ways I've killed the desktop, from taking screenshots (unreliable) to dragging windows between virtual desktops (reliable, as of a month or two ago).
[15:54] <DDR> Each time, I have to reboot the computer. This is a pain, because only some of my programs restore and I have to enter long passwords a lot.
[15:55] <soee_> DDR: try asking on #plasma maybe
[15:55] <DDR> OK, thanks.
[15:57] <BluesKaj> DDR try the F key
[15:57] <DDR> BluesKaj: f ... I don't understand?
[15:58] <BluesKaj> if fullscreen freezes
[15:58] <DDR> f and what?
[15:59] <BluesKaj> nm, I'm mistaken , DDR
[15:59] <DDR> (The program isn't listening by this point; perhaps it has lost keyboard focus.)
[15:59] <DDR> no worries. :)
[18:45] <nikola_> привет
[18:47] <BluesKaj> !ru | nikola_
[18:49] <nikola_> !ru
[19:21] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: he just said hy
[19:22] <ovidiu-florin> anyone any ideas on this: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+TjaartBlignaut/posts/iFVDw7GHQ54
[19:22] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Sound like Systemd issues.
[19:25] <yofel> I've seen that myself when I'm at the login screen, but I don't know why it happens
[19:26] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin,  well, I don't read cyrillic, so I naturally assumed he wanted to ask a question Russian
[19:27] <BluesKaj> in Russian
[19:28] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin, yofel: this answer sums it up pretty nicely: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/56531/how-to-get-fewer-ttys-with-systemd
[19:37] <BluesKaj> no problem with ctl+alt +F1 to the VT/TTY here on 15.10
[19:41] <danniel> hi
[19:42] <danniel> whats up
[19:59] <yofel> lordievader: hm, we do start a couple by default though
[20:00] <yofel> oh, but that's async, so in my case they probably weren't there yet
[20:55] <ovidiu-florin> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+RomainDijouxTheXpert17/posts/6VeXx5ePCAk
[23:18] <klixa> .
[23:38] <klixa> .