[06:33] <Sweet5hark> ochosi: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/5.0
[06:35] <didrocks> good morning
[07:29] <willcooke> morning
[07:29] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[07:30] <willcooke> hey didrocks, how's the jetlag?
[07:31] <didrocks> willcooke: way better thanks! First real night, so feeling some kind of achievement \o/ :)
[07:31] <didrocks> willcooke: do you achieve to get full night of sleep btw or still way too early? :)
[07:36] <seb128> hey willcooke didrocks
[07:39] <willcooke> didrocks, I'm sleeping on the floor in my eldest son's room.  I ordered a new mattress from Ikea yesterday :)
[07:42] <didrocks> willcooke: waow! good luck (even if Ikea's mattress are quite good, small compensation ;))
[07:42] <willcooke> I like to think of it as a sort of camping trip ;)
[07:44] <didrocks> don't try to start a fire in the middle of the room though :p
[07:45] <willcooke> haha
[07:45] <willcooke> :)
[07:49] <didrocks> seb128: do you know if anything changed in pygi in wily?
[07:50] <didrocks> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11913125/
[07:50] <seb128> didrocks, no, seems rather your PKGBUILDDIR isn't getting defined
[07:51] <didrocks> seb128: hum, are you sure? It seems rather than it can't import _gi?
[07:51] <seb128>   File "/«PKGBUILDDIR»/umake/tools.py", line 24, in <module>
[07:51] <seb128> that seems weird to me
[07:52] <seb128> I wouldn't be surprised if the import fail was a side effect
[07:52] <didrocks> can be, but in that case, it would rather fail on importing gi itself
[07:53] <seb128> didrocks, robert_ancell had a similar PKGBUILDDIR definition issue in a package I newed yesterday, which he fixed with "build-depends on gnome-common, yelp-tools"
[07:54] <seb128> just mentioning it in case that's useful
[07:54] <seb128> but otherwise no idea, I didn't see g-i changes nor similar issues
[07:54] <didrocks> vivid passed, let me try to only upgrade pygobject first
[07:57] <didrocks> but yeah, I think the "from ." is screwed in some way by this
[07:59] <didrocks> seems like though others have the same thing: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/209809241/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.pytango_8.1.5-1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[08:00] <didrocks> seb128: it's not that one
[08:01] <didrocks> if you read the log
[08:01] <didrocks> I: NOTICE: Log filtering will replace 'build/ubuntu-make-95Kt5f/ubuntu-make-0.9' with '«PKGBUILDDIR»'
[08:01] <didrocks> (build log)
[08:02] <seb128> didrocks, k, I don't know then
[08:02] <didrocks> seb128: can you try on your wily box to "from gi.repository import GLib, Gio"?
[08:02] <didrocks> under python3
[08:04] <seb128> $ python3
[08:04] <seb128> Python 3.4.3+ (default, Jun  2 2015, 14:09:35)
[08:04] <seb128> [GCC 4.9.2] on linux
[08:04] <seb128> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
[08:04] <seb128> >>> from gi.repository import GLib, Gio
[08:04] <seb128> >>>
[08:04] <Laney> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[08:04] <didrocks> thanks seb128
[08:05] <didrocks> hey Laney
[08:05] <seb128> seems like you have python3.5 in your case though
[08:05] <seb128> maybe pygi is not rebuilt for that version?
[08:05] <seb128> I'm on 3.4
[08:05] <seb128> I didn't upgrade today, I did yesterday though
[08:05] <seb128> hey Laney
[08:05] <didrocks> seb128: I thought 3.5 was supposed to stay in a ppa though, I'm surprise it's 3.5 as well
[08:06] <Laney> what up
[08:06] <didrocks> seb128: let me try a rebuild on a ppa I guess
[08:06] <didrocks> but I guess it's that
[08:06] <didrocks> Laney: it's warm again here :p and you?
[08:07] <seb128> today is sunny here!
[08:08] <seb128> didrocks, yeah, unsure what pulls in python3.5 for you
[08:08] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3-defaults/3.4.3-4ubuntu1
[08:08] <seb128> it was added a supported on wednesday, there
[08:09] <didrocks> right, but AFAIK, that shouldn't switch it to default
[08:10] <seb128> well, it's not even installed for me
[08:10] <seb128> did you get it pulled in on your system?
[08:10] <seb128> can you check by what?
[08:10] <didrocks> I'm still on vivid
[08:11] <seb128> well, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/212160353/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.ubuntu-make_0.9_BUILDING.txt.gz gets 3.5
[08:13] <didrocks> yeah, I saw that
[08:13] <didrocks> it installs 3.4 and 3.5
[08:13] <didrocks> but it's using 3.5
[08:13] <didrocks> I: pybuild base:170: python3.5 setup.py clean
[08:13] <didrocks> (that's dh clean --with python3)
[08:14] <seb128> the great Laney might know
[08:14] <seb128> Laney, we need your wisdom :-)
[08:14] <Laney> what you say
[08:14] <seb128> is python3.5 supposed to be default/pulled in on wily yet?
[08:14] <Laney> O_O
[08:14] <Laney> let me read that email again but I thought not
[08:14] <seb128> see the build log I just shared
[08:14] <seb128> yeah, same
[08:15] <didrocks> the email told it was supposed to stay in a ppa
[08:15] <didrocks> until it's ready
[08:15] <seb128> and my laptop is on wily and didn't get it installed
[08:15] <didrocks> my build-deps are really standards: https://github.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-make/blob/master/debian/control#L4
[08:15] <didrocks> can be python3-all depending on 3.5?
[08:16] <didrocks> yeah, it's that one
[08:16] <didrocks> but then, why dh is using 3.5 and not the default?
[08:16] <seb128> Depends: python3 (= 3.4.3-4), python3.4
[08:16] <seb128> here
[08:18] <didrocks>  Depends: python3 (= 3.4.3-4ubuntu1), python3.4, python3.5
[08:18] <didrocks> dpkg-deb -I python3-all_3.4.3-4ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[08:18] <didrocks> I guess you don't have 3.4.3-4ubuntu1 (in proposed)
[08:18] <seb128> oh
[08:19] <seb128> no, who has proposed enabled? ;-)
[08:19] <didrocks> the builders? :p
[08:19] <seb128> right, that makes sense to prepare the migration in proposed
[08:19] <seb128> but yeah, I guess it means they effectively started the transition
[08:19] <seb128> and probably pygi and others need to be fixed for ubuntu-make to build
[08:19] <didrocks> yeah
[08:19] <didrocks> I wonder if I shouldn't do that in 2 steps
[08:20] <didrocks> so, dep on 3.4 for now and change it back
[08:21] <Laney> it wasn't meant to change the default
[08:21] <Laney> something's calling python3.5 on purpose I guess?
[08:21] <Laney> oh do you have to build for all supported versions or something?
[08:21] <Laney> I don't know much about python packaging :)
[08:22] <didrocks> Laney: not for now, but as a best practice, I try to ensure I'm compatible in the future in case there would be multiple versions
[08:22] <didrocks> Laney: but I didn't add that magic (to use all python version) in debian/rules
[08:22] <didrocks> only using dh --with python3
[08:23] <Laney> well you have X-Python3-Version >= 3.4
[08:23] <Laney> does that make it try to build for 3.5 too?
[08:23] <seb128> moving to -devel
[08:23] <didrocks> yep, saw that, thanks!
[08:23] <seb128> yw!
[08:23] <didrocks> Laney: seems it's only using 3.5
[08:24] <didrocks> Laney: and yeah, X-Python3-Version >= 3.4 should still try distro's default I guess
[08:24] <didrocks> so 3.4 in that case
[08:24] <didrocks> (maybe dh_python is just stupid and take the highest available)
[08:32] <Laney> I think it's on purpose
[08:32] <Laney> build for all supported versions
[08:32] <ochosi> hey folks
[08:32] <ochosi> is larsu on holidays or something?
[08:32] <Laney> yes
[08:32]  * ochosi has some light-themes patch that should be looked at
[08:32] <ochosi> thing is, i noticed you guys don't seem to deal properly with the gtk3 overlay scrollbars
[08:33] <ochosi> they cover up portions of the window when scrolling
[08:33] <seb128> ochosi, hey, yes, he's and for over a month
[08:33] <ochosi> i wrote a minimal patch for xubuntu which could also be applied to ambiance/radiance, if you should so wish
[08:33] <seb128> that would be nice
[08:33] <seb128> is upstream having that issue?
[08:33] <Laney> what?
[08:33] <ochosi> nice, good for him :)
[08:33] <Laney> they are overlay scrollbars, they are supposed to overlay the window
[08:34] <ochosi> Laney: they should be tiny when scrolling and large when hovering
[08:34] <ochosi> e.g. when using the mousewheel there are only tiny indicators of your position
[08:34] <ochosi> when you move the pointer to the scrollbar-area, they fully appear
[08:34] <seb128> ochosi, is that bug #1472768 ?
[08:34] <Laney> ok, that's more info, thanks
[08:34] <ochosi> yeah, that too i guess
[08:35] <ochosi> so i dunno what you wanna do there
[08:36] <ochosi> i can show you the patch, you can copy/paste and test and then if you generally like it i can write a small patch for ambiance/radiance
[08:36] <seb128> what is adwaita doing?
[08:36] <ochosi> https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/commit/1745782e1928fd28fdd44530cd7b3bf6fb3283d1
[08:36] <ochosi> it's doing pretty much that ^
[08:36] <ochosi> but you have to convert their scss to css
[08:36] <ochosi> (which is what i did)
[08:36] <Laney> larsu already themed them in a branch to do this
[08:36] <seb128> note that larsu was supposed to land a theme update/bugfixes before his holiday
[08:36] <seb128> but that didn't happen
[08:36] <seb128> which is quite annoying
[08:36] <Laney> was that ready?
[08:37] <seb128> Laney, do you know why that update didn't land?
[08:37] <seb128> he never handed it to you?
[08:37] <ochosi> Laney: at least last time i looked he didn't have a patch for the scrollbars
[08:37] <Laney> no, you kept pinging him but it didn't come ...
[08:37] <Laney> he said he re-wrote the scrollbar one so it didn't cause other bugs though
[08:37] <ochosi> Laney: only stuff for nautilus and floating bars etc iirc
[08:37] <ochosi> oh ok
[08:37] <Laney> ah wait
[08:37] <ochosi> then i didnt see the branch
[08:37] <Laney> w_illcooke was showing it to design, now I remember
[08:37] <Laney> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~larsu/ubuntu-themes/overlay-scrollbars/revision/441
[08:38] <ochosi> yeah, but he doesn't hide the trough
[08:38] <ochosi> only makes it thinner
[08:38] <ochosi> and not even that thin
[08:38] <ochosi> still quite obstructive if you ask me
[08:38] <ochosi> but anyway, that's up to you guys ;)
[08:38] <seb128> john was supposed to show it to mark
[08:38] <seb128> and willcooke said he was pinging John about that on friday
[08:39] <seb128> willcooke, did you get any reply from him?
[08:39] <Laney> ochosi: can you show a screenshot of yours?
[08:39] <ochosi> Laney: sure, one sec
[08:39] <ochosi> Laney: you mean with ambiance?
[08:39]  * ochosi fires up the vbox
[08:39] <Laney> that one you just linked
[08:41] <willcooke> seb128, Laney - John didn't get a chance to speak to him so we emailed Mark yesterday with the details... still waiting...
[08:42] <ochosi> Laney: well it's in no way optimized for ambiance
[08:43] <Laney> sure
[08:43] <Laney> I just want to understand what you're talking about
[08:43] <ochosi> http://i.imgur.com/b1mtN8X.png
[08:44] <ochosi> so there you see the small indicator on the right in evince to indicate the scroll position
[08:44] <ochosi> when you hover the right border of the window, appprox 15-20px, depending on your actual scrollbar, the full scrollbar appears
[08:44] <ochosi> so this indicator style doesn't go too well with adwaita, but it can obviously be tweaked to integrate nicely
[08:45] <ochosi> larsu's implementation is at least twice as wide
[08:45] <ochosi> so it may obstruct text
[08:45] <ochosi> plus my implementation has a transparent trough
[08:45] <ochosi> which is the most important factor for not obstructing stuff below
[08:46] <ochosi> note that what looks like a scrollbar trough here is only the page background of evince
[08:46] <Laney> http://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/scroll.png
[08:46] <Laney> that is his new one
[08:47] <ochosi> oh alright
[08:47] <ochosi> that's pretty much like your old overlay scrollbar
[08:47] <Laney> what we have *now* is gtk's default style
[08:47] <ochosi> that's fine then i guess
[08:47] <Laney> yes that was the idea
[08:47] <ochosi> right, then go with his, since he already made it ready
[08:47] <ochosi> i just didn't see the branch and was a bit concerned for your sakes when i saw ambiance's default look :)
[08:48] <Laney> hehe
[08:48] <Laney> I wonder if we shouldn't just upload it since it's ready and tweak more if we need to
[08:49] <ochosi> yeah
[08:49] <ochosi> that's what i did
[08:49] <Laney> seb128: ja/nein?
[08:50] <ochosi> anyway, that's it from my side ;)
[08:50] <Laney> thx for pinging!
[08:50]  * ochosi heads out to enjoy some swimming
[08:50] <ochosi> too hot in here...
[08:50] <Laney> grey as far as the eye can see here
[08:50] <ochosi> Laney: no problem! if i find more merge-worthy stuff i'll keep you posted
[08:50] <Laney> http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/ng5
[08:51] <ochosi> i'm tempted to say "lucky you" cause we've been hit by one heat wave after another
[08:51] <ochosi> not the typical austrian weather really
[08:51] <seb128> Laney, +1, I though that uploading the current work and iteration was +1ed last week with larsu and that he would work with you before being on holidays
[08:51] <seb128> but seems he dropped the ball
[08:52] <seb128> I'm a bit annoyed at him, he said he would land those themes changes for like 3 weeks before being off and he didn't
[08:52] <Laney> I got a bit confused
[08:52] <Laney> with getting it reviewed by mark and stuff
[08:52] <ochosi> fwiw, i've reviewed the code of his merges
[08:52] <Laney> plus I thought there was a "general" theme update coming
[08:52] <ochosi> at least that part seems fine, so you really have no worries there
[08:52] <Laney> meh
[08:52] <Laney> let's just push these two (nautilus and scrollbars)
[08:53] <seb128> thanks
[08:53] <ochosi> anyway, hf!
[08:53]  * ochosi is off
[08:53] <Laney> swim well!
[08:53] <seb128> well, I think the Mark review is more about the new overlay scrollbars
[08:53] <seb128> rather than UI details
[08:53] <Laney> don't think it matters, if we need to tweak then it's change either way
[08:54] <seb128> ochosi, enjoy, and thanks for bringing the discussion ... you extra changes, please merge proposed them if you can, so we can test/see the difference and maybe include them :-)
[08:54] <seb128> right
[08:54] <Laney> https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/ubuntu-themes/overlay-scrollbars/+merge/265372 <- review please?
[08:55] <darkxst> hey laney seb128, bug 1475949 deals with the schema changes
[08:56] <darkxst> after that, suppose just waiting on infinity to look into the g-o-a/webkit2gtk demotions
[08:56] <Laney> yeah, I'm feeling a bit "aaahhhh" at the minute, hopefully someone else can review those for you
[08:56] <seb128> hey darkxst, I saw it yesterday but I didn't look at the new g-s-d and I'm not really familiar with the transition
[08:56] <Laney> maybe robert_ancell?
[08:57] <darkxst> seb128, I reverted a few other keys in g-s-d that were removed
[08:57] <seb128> do you have a bug for the transition/explaining what changed/is being transitioned and the impact?
[09:00] <seb128> Laney, k, scrollbar change reviewed/tested/approved
[09:00] <darkxst> seb128, not exactly, most periphal keys moved into gsettings except the ones that are x11 specific
[09:00] <darkxst> a couple were renamed, but the migration code, patches handle that
[09:01] <darkxst> I can add some more info to that bug report I guess
[09:02] <seb128> thanks
[09:02] <seb128> I'm going to try to have a look today
[09:02] <seb128> but feel free to ping robert_ancell if I don't
[09:02] <seb128> he's closer from your tz, you should be able to grab him on IRC :-)
[09:03] <Laney> I made http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ubuntu-desktop.html exist yesterday btw
[09:03] <Laney> because I was worried about missing stuff and I don't get emailed about those for some reason
[09:04] <darkxst> seb128,  the only real user facing change is that touchpad disable while typing option is gone and always enabled
[09:04] <TheMuso> cat .irf
[09:04] <TheMuso> whoops
[09:04] <willcooke> hey TheMuso!  How are you?
[09:05] <Laney> muhahah, you revealed yourself!
[09:05] <willcooke> :D
[09:06] <Laney> https://twitter.com/stevegwestby/status/623113645589987329
[09:06] <Laney> crap
[09:06] <Laney> need to get down there at lunch
[09:06] <willcooke> Laney, don't mess around man, go now
[09:08] <seb128> Laney, useful, I glance on the main package for desktop ones every now and then but it's easier to read an already filtered one
[09:08] <seb128> darkxst, k, I think it's fine to have that always enabled
[09:08] <Laney> seb128: it's only desktop team as reviwer atm, not all desktop packages
[09:08] <Laney> could do that probably
[09:58] <willcooke> Laney, seb128 - +1 from sabdfl for the OSBs
[09:58] <willcooke> \m/
[09:59] <Laney> happy days
[10:21] <Laney> anpok_: any news on the mir issue?
[10:25] <davmor2> willcooke: One Stop Bungee?  Or a rope as it used to be called ;)
[10:59] <anpok_> Laney: still a riddle what causes the stack smashing.. we forgot to bump an abi.. but that isnt causing the trouble..
[11:00] <anpok_> so I assumed that platform graphics would be causing it...
[11:00] <anpok_> now it seems it is mirprotobuf instead..
[11:01] <anpok_> but thats very unlikely
[11:03] <Laney> bleh
[12:05] <seb128> Laney, anpok_technically I think we could go with forcing the u-s-c update using packaging rules and go away with it to unblock the situation, there is still a bug to fix but not one that should impact users if the upgrade is locked as one set
[12:37] <anpok_> seb128: I just started my last attempt
[12:37] <anpok_> .. but meanwhile - how would you force that?
[12:38] <seb128> anpok_, k, let us know how it goes
[12:39] <seb128> anpok_, well, having one of the mir debs to conflicts or such on the old u-s-c so updating mir force update u-s-c
[13:02] <Laney> yes, probably Breaks: from libmirclientX to u-s-c (<< new-version) would be good
[13:09] <willcooke> Laney, jhodapp and co have got gstreamer in good shape
[13:09] <jhodapp> Laney, indeed...abeato sent an email requesting both of us review his MRs for it
[13:09] <jhodapp> Laney, we need to make sure to land media-hub with the updated gst-plugins-bad or else video will break on the phone
[13:11] <Laney> jhodapp: yus, I saw, if you review then I can get ready to upload
[13:11] <Laney> can add a breaks, that's no worry
[13:11] <jhodapp> Laney, will do, I'll do that in ~2 hours after my morning meetings wrap up
[13:12] <Laney> great!
[13:12] <Laney> thanks for working on it
[13:12] <jhodapp> Laney, np, I'm going to suggest for our next sprint that we start working on upstreaming it too so we no longer have to maintain a distro patch for it
[13:13] <Laney> oh my gawd
[13:13] <Laney> that would make me joyous
[13:14] <jhodapp> me too :)
[14:15] <ricotz> Sweet5hark, hi, any news about the l10n requests for "am" and "gug"?
[14:23] <anpok_> Laney, seb128: ok the attempt failed.. probably because of an init bug in libprotobuf itself..
[14:24] <anpok_> ... what was the suggestion - a change in usc/debian/control or another change in mir/debian/control?
[14:34] <Laney> anpok_: something like http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~laney/mir/breaks-old-usc/revision/2762 (untested)
[14:36] <anpok_> Laney: will that work on vivid+overlay too?
[14:37] <Laney> what's the version of u-s-c there?
[14:37] <Laney> probably not
[14:37] <Laney> you could bump the major version and use << that
[14:37] <Laney> s/major/upstream/ (the bit before the +)
[14:39] <anpok_> hm what about libmirserver32 breaks libmirserver31?
[14:40] <Laney> does it?
[14:44] <anpok_> the problem seems to be that we cannot have two versions of libmirprotobuf installed in parallel because of libprotobuf (which is the last thing I tried) .. and replacing the libmirprotobuf0 from 13.3 with 14.0 seems to cause the problem, and the reverse seemed to resolve the problem..
[14:48] <willcooke> ricotz,  sweet5hark is off sick today
[14:50] <ricotz> willcooke, alright, thanks
[15:16] <Laney> anpok_: I think I'm confused at this point... can you maybe work with RAOF or someone to get this uploaded? He's a core-dev so ought to be able to upload stuff.
[15:25] <willcooke> seb128, sorry for late notice, qengho and I are in a meeting which is likely to overrun a few mins, would you mind getting the meeting started, I have updates for Robert, Luke and Aron
[15:29] <desrt> time for seb to shine...
[15:29] <seb128> willcooke, sure can do
[15:29] <seb128> desrt, 1 min before time according to my computer
[15:30] <willcooke> thanks seb128
[15:30] <seb128> #startmeeting
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[15:30] <seb128> ok, now seems about right
[15:30] <didrocks> hey
[15:30] <desrt> sorry... saw :29 and was unsure :)
[15:30] <willcooke> attente (maybe out), desrt,  dgadomski, didrocks, fjkong, happyaron (out), laney, larsu (out), qengho (otp with me), seb128, sweet5hark (out), tkamppeter, themuso (out), robert_ancell (out)
[15:31] <willcooke> seb128, had that in gedit ready to go ^^
[15:31] <qengho> Hey hey
[15:31] <seb128> k, willcooke had the rollcall ;-)
[15:31] <dgadomski> hey
[15:31] <seb128> willcooke, thanks, I was looking at irclog to copy a previous one
[15:31] <Laney> HI!
[15:31] <seb128> ok, let's the fun begin
[15:31] <FJKong> hi
[15:31] <seb128> #topic attente (or not?)
[15:31] <seb128> attente, hey
[15:32] <attente> hi
[15:32] <attente> not much from me, re-factoring some of the menu positioning code in gtk to allow us to pass in attachment rectangles to mir
[15:32] <seb128> k, he's here :-)
[15:32] <seb128> what's the status of the gtk mir backend?
[15:32] <seb128> I didn't look at the version in proposed/the new mir yet, but that has quite some improvements right?
[15:33] <attente> it has some bug fixes, but we're still missing big things like clipboard and drag and drop
[15:33] <seb128> k
[15:33] <seb128> attente, thanks
[15:33] <seb128> #topic desrt
[15:33] <attente> and right now, the menus aren't positioned properly if they flood off screen, but that's in-progress
[15:34] <seb128> k
[15:34] <desrt> hey... helping attente a bit with the mirgtk stuff lately
[15:34] <seb128> sorry I though you were done with the update
[15:34] <desrt> also working on [the secret project]
[15:34] <desrt> not a lot of success there...
[15:34] <seb128> still the same project?
[15:34] <desrt> aside, mostly bug backlog catchup
[15:34] <desrt> yes
[15:34] <Laney> HAHA
[15:34] <seb128> k
[15:34] <Laney> how very intriguing
[15:34] <desrt> heh
[15:35] <seb128> secret project, round 6
[15:35] <desrt> there is a branch now
[15:35] <desrt> but everything is segfaulting :)
[15:35] <seb128> minor detail!
[15:35] <desrt> gonna try to spend a couple more days this week on that
[15:35] <desrt> that's all
[15:35] <seb128> thanks desrt
[15:35] <seb128> #topic dgadomski
[15:35] <seb128> dgadomski, hey
[15:36] <dgadomski> hey
[15:36] <dgadomski> I've been mostly trying to drive forward the issues I mentioned last week
[15:36] <dgadomski> - identified the cause of bug #1473458, reported upstream (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=752481). I was not able to fix it fully so far, I am counting on upstream suggestions in that area.
[15:36] <dgadomski> - kept working on reproducing bug #1297849, no success, but I'm going to backport some upstream commits removing dependency on shell version, which should solve it. I am going to do some tests and discuss it with cyphermox.
[15:36] <dgadomski> - upstream developers identified the cause of bug #1464645 to be related to libsmbclient rather than gvfs, reported upstream bug https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=752481, although a commit backport is required to enable kerberos login instead of anonymous (https://git.gnome.org/browse/gvfs/commit/?id=a0aec32).
[15:37] <dgadomski> and that's it
[15:37] <seb128> dgadomski, I saw that nm/number of connection bug discuted on debian channel, did you follow the discussion there/talk with them about it?
[15:38] <seb128> or is that coincidences they are talking about it as well?
[15:38] <dgadomski> seb128: no, I guess it was a coincidence
[15:38] <Laney> I bet smcv saw the bug come in
[15:38] <seb128> k, I'm going to have a look to the logs after the meeting see if I can give you an useful pointer/info
[15:38] <dgadomski> seb128: I will check the irclog about that, do you remember when was that?
[15:38] <seb128> Laney, likely yes
[15:38] <Laney> oh no
[15:39] <Laney> it was one day before :P
[15:39] <seb128> dgadomski, jul 15 on #debian-gnome
[15:39] <Laney> dgadomski: there was no real discussion, just someone asking why the limit was raised
[15:39] <seb128> not sure if that channel has IRC logs?
[15:39] <seb128> juil. 15 12:11:27 <smcv>	mbiebl: I think it's madness to have random daemons unilaterally changing the system bus' global limits
[15:39] <Laney> but the other guy didn't reply
[15:40] <seb128> Laney, ^ that one?
[15:40] <Laney> y
[15:40] <Laney> a
[15:40] <seb128> I don't have the start of the discussion
[15:40] <seb128> what daemon are they talking about?
[15:40] <Laney> nm
[15:40] <seb128> k, so today nm already change the limit?
[15:40] <seb128> or they were talking about doing that as a fix for dgadomski's mentioned issue?
[15:40] <Laney> yes probably for this issue
[15:40] <Laney> but any number can be too low I guess
[15:41] <Laney> if you have more connections than that
[15:41] <seb128> right
[15:41] <seb128> let's check debian bugs report after the meeting
[15:41] <seb128> dgadomski, thanks
[15:41] <Laney> so retrying seems sensible
[15:41] <seb128> #topic didrocks
[15:41] <seb128> didrocks, hey
[15:41] <didrocks> hey
[15:41] <didrocks> * Was on holidays until Friday. Mostly emails catchup then.
[15:41] <didrocks> * Ubuntu Make:
[15:41] <didrocks> - Released Ubuntu Make 0.9. More info at http://blog.didrocks.fr/post/Arduino-support-and-various-fix-in-Ubuntu-Make-0.9
[15:41] <didrocks> - Fix Visual Studio Code 32 bits support + tests updates
[15:41] <didrocks> - Transition from unsupported Dart Editor to Dart SDK + tests updates (still letting users able to remove old Dart Editor)
[15:41] <didrocks> - Bugs and suggestions triaging + multiple pull requests review
[15:41] <didrocks> * Gog customer service: followed up (issue with sdl library)
[15:41] <didrocks> * Blocked some github spammer on the ubuntu organization projects (my first \o/)
[15:41] <didrocks> .
[15:42] <seb128> didrocks, thanks, good to have you back, I hope you had good holidays :-)
[15:42] <didrocks> yeah, was excellent, thanks! :)
[15:42] <seb128> #topic FJKong
[15:42] <seb128> FJKong, hey
[15:42] <FJKong> hey
[15:42] <FJKong> 1 analyze sogoupinyin panic log file reported by community user
[15:42] <FJKong>   It semms problem is about libarary version
[15:42] <FJKong> 2 account loginin problem, some error like:
[15:42] <FJKong> Your account has been suspended. Please contact login support to re-enable it
[15:42] <FJKong> no response from support team
[15:42] <FJKong> 3 prepare documents for VISA for GUADEC
[15:43] <FJKong> 4  research on some skin lack of statusbar image, impore stability
[15:43]  * willcooke is back
[15:43] <seb128> FJKong, thanks
[15:43]  * Laney tells a friend
[15:44] <seb128> #topic happyaron
[15:44] <willcooke> I got that...
[15:44] <seb128> #chair willcooke
[15:44] <meetingology> Current chairs: seb128 willcooke
[15:44] <willcooke> 1. Update fcitx and friends
[15:44] <willcooke> 2. ibus crash analysis and bug triagings
[15:44] <willcooke> eof
[15:44] <seb128> willcooke, feel free to take on from there
[15:44] <willcooke> thx seb128
[15:44] <seb128> yw!
[15:44] <willcooke> #topic Laney
[15:44] <Laney> HI
[15:45] <Laney> • short week: off friday
[15:45] <Laney> • more shepherding of gstreamer and e-d-s, they should both be ready to go today or tomorrow depending on when some people manage to finish reviews. yay!
[15:45] <Laney> • keep an eye on autopkgtest-cloud and whack things when they need it
[15:45] <Laney> • new gtk point release
[15:45] <Laney> ∘ stuck in proposed due to new mir, try to help get that unblocked without a great degree of success
[15:45] <Laney> • gnome-screensaver crash fix (D + U), glib crash fix for same bug (going through review/fix rounds upstream)
[15:45] <Laney> • DMB: some applicants to look at, approve new member, poke about happyaron's packageset change
[15:45] <Laney> • look at poppler for gcc5/qt5.4, upload patch & send to BTS
[15:45] <Laney> • check/upload theme merges that larsu left for us, can haz styled scrollbars
[15:45] <Laney> • next:  new glib, new gtk, upload gcr/gnupg2 from ppa, push gstreamer, push eds, patch pilot (been delaying it)
[15:45] <Laney> ⚾
[15:45] <willcooke> thx Laney
[15:46] <willcooke> #topic qengho
[15:46] <willcooke> hello again qengho
[15:46] <qengho> - two sick days, Thur, Fri.
[15:46] <qengho> - more ozone-mir work.  Fixing some mir API changes in Wily.
[15:46] <qengho> - some Firefox support research.
[15:46] <qengho> EOF
[15:46] <willcooke> thx qengho
[15:46] <willcooke> hope you're feeling better
[15:47] <willcooke> #topic seb128
[15:47] <qengho> Thx.
[15:47] <seb128> • looked at some touch bugs
[15:47] <seb128> ∘ untranslatable strings in dialer
[15:47] <seb128> ∘ dialpad keys shouldn't be translatable
[15:47] <seb128> ∘ wrong strings used in dialer (not matching design)
[15:47] <seb128> ∘ wrong icons ratio in the messaging menu
[15:47] <seb128> • unity-settings-daemon landing for larsu (bugfixes for touchpad toggle key & build)
[15:47] <seb128> • helped the mir team with proposed-migration issues
[15:47] <seb128> • NEW reviews for GNOME packages uploaded by robert-ancell (gnome-calendar, california, gsound, gnome-taquin, gnome-multi-writer)
[15:47] <seb128> • quite some bugs triage (desktop & touch)
[15:47] <seb128> • reviewed some theme changes
[15:47] <seb128> • fixed non-translatable totem menus in wily & vivid-sru
[15:47] <seb128> next: look at snappy personal scope & gcc transition
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[15:48] <willcooke> thx seb128
[15:48] <willcooke> sweetshark is sick, so on to
[15:48] <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
[15:48] <tkamppeter> hi
[15:49] <tkamppeter> I mainly studied ways how cups-browsed can observe jobs and printer creations/deletions by CUPS
[15:50] <tkamppeter> For being able to better lead with which printer should be the default printer and to allow load balancing if one printer is provided by several servers.
[15:50] <tkamppeter> Also worked on bugs.
[15:51] <willcooke> thanks tkamppeter
[15:51] <willcooke> #topic TheMuso
[15:51] <willcooke> * Started working on accessibility profile settings that are best suited for the GNOME and mate flavours.
[15:51] <willcooke> * Fix some small issues in the installer with regards to using Orca and the keyboard to tab around the installer, i.e labels were marked as focusable when they should not be.
[15:51] <willcooke> * Fix the casper a11y code to properly apply accessibility settings for a user during install, without the need for first time startup hacks.
[15:51] <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
[15:52] <willcooke> - Fixed XMir bugs
[15:52] <willcooke> - Updated xorg packages
[15:52] <willcooke> - Updated GNOME packages
[15:52] <willcooke> #topic any other business
[15:52] <willcooke> Anyone got anything they want to talk about?
[15:52] <willcooke> Oh, I think one thing is that we are +1 on the new overlay scrollbars
[15:52] <willcooke> which you might have already picked up from irc earlier
[15:53] <willcooke> any more for any more?
[15:53] <seb128> we have them active in wily and uploaded a first theming version
[15:53] <seb128> we can tweak more if design gives us guidance
[15:54] <seb128> (well at least once larsu is back ;-)
[15:54] <willcooke> cool!
[15:54] <willcooke> ok, let's #endmeeting
[15:55] <willcooke> #endmeeting
[15:55] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jul 21 15:55:00 2015 UTC.
[15:55] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-07-21-15.30.moin.txt
[15:55] <didrocks> thanks
[15:55] <willcooke> thank you everyonbe
[15:55] <dgadomski> thanks
[15:56] <seb128> thanks
[15:56] <Laney> merci
[15:56]  * Laney needs to go buy 4 more beer fest tix and relocate to tea shop
[15:57] <Laney> that makes 17 tickets × £20
[15:57] <Laney> :o
[15:58] <willcooke> credit card points
[15:58] <Laney> I sooooooooo love getting people to pay back money they owe
[16:13] <seb128> Laney, dgadomski, k, the comment I copied earlier was a follow up to that commit http://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/commit/?id=2c299ba65c51e9c407090dc83929d692c74ee3f2
[16:14] <dgadomski> seb128, Laney: I have found 2 related debian bugs: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=781007 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=773525 with info that they were fixed in nm 1.0.0-3
[16:15] <seb128> right, that seems a discussion around that
[16:15] <dgadomski> I'll take a look and see what's in the source
[16:18] <seb128> dpm-afk, can you approve https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/+source/totem/+imports?field.filter_status=all&field.filter_extension=pot for me ?
[16:18] <seb128> dpm-afk, unping
[16:19] <seb128> dpm-afk, I did it, just got confused by the UI, the "approve" was disabled not because of acl but because the domain was not configured
[16:43] <seb128> good everning desktopers!
[17:19] <willcooke> night all
[21:23] <Noskcaj> gegl-0.3 test builds are at ppa:noskcaj/gegl if someone wans to help test