[16:20] Switched back to Fedora on my work machine last night. I think I should have just left it on 15.05. [16:20] :-D [17:03] bwmaker: just go arch, you will never go back :) [17:07] I did. And I did. :-) [17:07] ha ha [17:08] :D [17:08] hello Unit193 [17:56] wrst: I loved Arch, but there was some compatibility with work stuff and Python 3 that I couldn't reasonably resolve. [18:02] hmm [18:02] yeah arch using the python command as python 3 caused some issues early on when they made that transition [18:08] All of our work stuff is python 2. I know there's virtualenv and probably some way to do it, but I gave myself a timebox to make it work and it didn't work out. [19:33] yeah I'm sure that would have been a bit of a mess all the packages expecting 'python' to be python 3 and all your work stuff expecting it to be python 2 [19:34] would certainly not be worth my feeble brain figuring that out [19:34] afternoon netritious [19:35] afternoon wrst! working hard or hardly working? [19:53] Canonical should make their slogan "Dare to be Different" lol...all the fuss over snappy, mir, systemd..I just don't get it. [19:54] I do get what people are complaining about, but I don't get why people care so much about it. [20:13] Humans like to find a tribe. I don't think a lot of people using a Linux distro will really know if it's using systemd or not. [20:13] They read a couple articles about it, heard a podcast from someone they trust and they decided to pick a side. [20:14] I kinda like the small bits I've used systemd for. [20:17] I honestly have zero experience with systemd, but as long as there is something like rc.local then I'm set. [20:19] occasionally I do need something to start on boot and using rc.local is how I typically implement it. [20:23] bwmaker: isn't there going to be sysvinit compatibility? sort of like how upstart and sysvinit work side-by-side now? [20:26] I'm not really sure. I'm well versed with it. I used it a bit in Arch, but not much more than that. [20:32] ok, looks like there are some incompatibilities http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibilities/ [20:34] I guess problems with incompatibilities will fall mainly on service developers who have to code for and package for stated incompatibilities. [21:16] along the lines of "if systemd, use this boot script, and if not, use this other -- works with all things not systemd -- boot script"