[16:20] <bwmaker> Switched back to Fedora on my work machine last night. I think I should have just left it on 15.05.
[16:20] <bwmaker> :-D
[17:03] <wrst> bwmaker: just go arch, you will never go back :)
[17:07] <bwmaker> I did. And I did. :-)
[17:07] <wrst> ha ha
[17:08] <Unit193> :D
[17:08] <wrst> hello Unit193
[17:56] <bwmaker> wrst: I loved Arch, but there was some compatibility with work stuff and Python 3 that I couldn't reasonably resolve.
[18:02] <wrst> hmm
[18:02] <wrst> yeah arch using the python command as python 3 caused some issues early on when they made that transition
[18:08] <bwmaker> All of our work stuff is python 2. I know there's virtualenv and probably some way to do it, but I gave myself a timebox to make it work and it didn't work out.
[19:33] <wrst> yeah I'm sure that would have been a bit of a mess all the packages expecting 'python' to be python 3 and all your work stuff expecting it to be python 2
[19:34] <wrst> would certainly not be worth my feeble brain figuring that out
[19:34] <wrst> afternoon netritious
[19:35] <netritious> afternoon wrst! working hard or hardly working?
[19:53] <netritious> Canonical should make their slogan "Dare to be Different" lol...all the fuss over snappy, mir, systemd..I just don't get it.
[19:54] <netritious> I do get what people are complaining about, but I don't get why people care so much about it.
[20:13] <bwmaker> Humans like to find a tribe. I don't think a lot of people using a Linux distro will really know if it's using systemd or not.
[20:13] <bwmaker> They read a couple articles about it, heard a podcast from someone they trust and they decided to pick a side.
[20:14] <bwmaker> I kinda like the small bits I've used systemd for.
[20:17] <netritious> I honestly have zero experience with systemd, but as long as there is something like rc.local then I'm set.
[20:19] <netritious> occasionally I do need something to start on boot and using rc.local is how I typically implement it.
[20:23] <netritious> bwmaker: isn't there going to be sysvinit compatibility? sort of like how upstart and sysvinit work side-by-side now?
[20:26] <bwmaker> I'm not really sure. I'm well versed with it. I used it a bit in Arch, but not much more than that.
[20:32] <netritious> ok, looks like there are some incompatibilities http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibilities/
[20:34] <netritious> I guess problems with incompatibilities will fall mainly on service developers who have to code for and package for stated incompatibilities.
[21:16] <netritious> along the lines of "if systemd, use this boot script, and if not, use this other -- works with all things not systemd -- boot script"