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Unit193There go all the icons.00:01
bluesabreyup00:21
bluesabregtk00:21
Unit193Can't we keep them and just ignore the stupid deprecation warnings?00:21
Unit193(Or port to Qt. :-----D)00:21
bluesabreit's just 2 button icons, so could be worse00:22
Unit193Ah.  And yeah, just look how they ruined Remmina.00:22
Unit193"It's better this way!" :D00:22
Unit193..I'm on -devel, whoops.00:22
bluesabre:D00:23
Unit193slickymaster: And, forgot to say.  Good then! \o/00:42
bluesabreimport and export implemented01:06
bluesabre... hackily01:06
bluesabre:D01:06
Unit193https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2015-July/001143.html02:29
bluesabreyup02:35
bluesabreexpecting some breakage02:35
bluesabreUnit193: anything else you'd expect here, do you want to be in AUTHORS for your desktop file contribution?  Where is our old history for this thing, or did I do the gui myself? https://code.launchpad.net/~xfpanel-switch-dev/xfpanel-switch/trunk02:36
bluesabre:D02:37
bluesabreochosi: should be good to test now, enjoy03:10
* bluesabre goes to bed03:11
Unit193Oh, good night.  And whatever makes you feel best, tbh.03:11
micahgUnit193: I can help with livecd-rootfs03:14
micahgI have to know what  you want though :)03:14
micahgas for the gcc-5 rebuild, I was going to see what we needed03:14
Unit193That one looked like it'd be the easier one to patch.  Well, xubuntu-core is "all" we needed to add, soo.03:14
Unit193Yeah, that's mostly fine for us.03:14
Unit193Thanks for offering too, micahg!03:18
Noskcajplaces-plugin is already fixed, and the only actual gcc issue seems to be libopenraw06:33
knomeochosi, i just added the possibility to show/hide the whiteboard...11:23
knomeslickymasterWork, i just added the possibility to show/hide the whiteboard...11:28
slickymasterWorklet me check11:28
slickymasterWorkknome, getting an Internal Server Error11:29
knomeoh right11:29
knomelook at your email again then :)11:29
slickymasterWorkno, wait11:29
slickymasterWorkwas accessing yesterday url11:29
knomeyep11:29
slickymasterWorknow disabling javascript :P11:30
knomeyw, but the whiteboard is hidden then11:30
slickymasterWorkor better enabling it11:30
slickymasterWorkyeah :P11:30
knomebecause it's a bit too obtrusive to show it all by default11:30
slickymasterWorkI prefer it showing the whiteboard11:31
knomewell, you can expand all, then show all whiteboards11:33
knomeand consider if that was the view you saw with no js by default11:33
slickymasterWorkconsider in what aspect?11:34
knomeconsider what it would feel inside you11:34
knomewould it make you warm11:34
knomeor would it make you puke of the information overload11:34
slickymasterWorkyou're crazy11:34
slickymasterWorklol11:34
knomeme? crazy? nooo...11:35
slickymasterWorkjust a pure aesthetically point of view 11:35
slickymasterWorkit gives some color to the wall of text/data11:35
knomethe whiteboard?11:36
knomeor the puke?11:36
slickymasterWork:P11:36
knomebut yeah, i've been considering the visual aspec too11:36
knome+t11:36
knomethere's something that doesn't work as is11:36
slickymasterWorkwhat?11:36
knomei can't exactly pinpoint it yet11:36
knomebut it might be better if the different specs were their own tables11:37
knomeand there was some padding between them11:37
knomethat would also give some kind of rhythm for the page11:37
slickymasterWorkperhaps 11:37
slickymasterWorkbut it could also make it heavier - the different specs being their own tables11:38
knomeand that wouldn't be a bad move technically either, it'd help the modularity a bit11:38
slickymasterWorkit could turn out to be a trade off11:38
knomewell, if i separate them, the tables are still easy to put back together11:38
knomeso maybe i'll do that change next..11:39
slickymasterWorktrial and error proccess ;)11:39
knomehmm, heh11:40
knomenow that looks chaotic...11:40
slickymasterWorkyeah11:41
slickymasterWorktoo much11:41
knomewell the bars are misaligne etc11:41
knomelet me fix that first :P11:41
knome(and do some other changes while i'm at it...)11:42
slickymasterWork:)11:42
slickymasterWorkI'll check it after lunch knome 11:43
knomesure11:43
knomebon appetit11:43
slickymasterWorkdank11:43
knome(i'm also eating as we talk, bad habits!)11:43
slickymasterWorklol11:43
knomepleia2, remind me again, was there something about the SSL thing we wanted to check before contacting IS (or did i already promise to do that and forgot?)12:19
pleia2knome: nope14:36
flocculanthello channel15:31
Reklanhowdo15:37
flocculanthi Reklan 15:44
knomepleia2, ok, i'll follow up with IS on that today then15:47
knomehello flocculant, Reklan 15:48
flocculanthi knome 15:50
knomesoo... what's up?15:54
flocculantonly stuff15:54
* slickymasterWork didn't see any changes in the status page15:55
slickymasterWork... just sayin'....15:55
knomeslickymasterWork, that's because you looked too late15:55
slickymasterWorklol15:56
flocculantthat'll be a Y in the day then15:56
knomei did the <tbody> to <table> migration already15:56
knomebut it didn't work15:56
knomewell i mean visually15:56
knomeso i reverted the visual style15:56
flocculantso 15:58
flocculantI have seen  talk in logs in some blueprint/status replacement15:58
* slickymasterWork will go with knome's experienced position on the visual/aesthetic aspect of it all ;) 15:59
flocculantoh right ...15:59
flocculantthat15:59
knomeslickymasterWork, i'll have to count on you on the puke though15:59
slickymasterWorkbah15:59
knomeflocculant, would you like to contribute to xubuntu? d:16:00
flocculantI could possibly spend some of my time with QA stuff 16:00
flocculantIF there is a need16:00
knomelike... half of your life?16:01
flocculantlol16:03
ochosibluesabre: meh, parole currently segfaults (even with xv selected as backend) when closing it23:33
ochosiknome: nice, so we can soon ship pdf offline docs per release?23:33
ochosialso, nice work on the status tracker!23:34
knomei guess so..23:34
ochosisome hover-style for the overview list might help, currently it's not always easy to see (especially on wide screens) which progressbar is associated with which blueprint23:34
ochosiand yeah, i did like the burndown, but i guess that one would be the hardest to replicate ;)23:35
jjfrv8evening, ochosi. Did you see my question a while back about working on the thunar docs?23:37
ochosihey jjfrv8 23:37
ochosioh sorry, yeah, that was a longer while ago already, right?23:37
ochosiwas on and off a lot23:37
jjfrv8kinda23:37
ochosihence didn't follow up on everything maybe23:37
jjfrv8well, I went ahead and started working on them anyway, hope that was okay23:38
ochosisure!23:38
ochosiso the green parts you've worked on?23:38
jjfrv8mostly23:38
jjfrv8i'm kind of stopped on the plugins, though23:39
jjfrv8xubuntu seems to have integrated all of them but I"m not sure about other distros23:39
ochosithat looks really nice, judging from the first impression!23:40
jjfrv8ok cool.23:40
ochosiright, so what would be the problem if other distros haven't?23:40
ochosii mean either way, it's useful to have docs for them23:41
jjfrv8well I put two screenshots in of the File and Edit menus, which in xubuntu have the plugins built in. So I don't know if it's okay to show them that way23:41
ochosioh that23:41
ochosiimo that's minor23:41
ochositheoretically you can uninstall the plugins in xubuntu, but it's really better to have your updated shots than the current outdated ones23:42
jjfrv8so maybe just put a disclaimer in that one might have to install the plugins if they're not already available?23:43
ochosiyeah23:43
ochosithat's definitely enough23:43
jjfrv8the links to the plugins upstream docs seem to be pretty out of date to.23:43
ochosior even too much, for just a few menu items23:43
ochosiyeah23:43
ochosii'm not surprised23:43
ochosianyway, gotta get some sleep23:44
ochosii'll try to do some closer review soon, but tomorrow i'll be afk23:44
jjfrv8sounds good. thanks.23:44
ochosiafter the review, we can plan merging the parts that are ready asap23:44
knomehmmh23:46
knomenow i can build all translations into pdf's too with the makefile23:46
knomeboring :)23:47
ochosiknome: awesome :)23:48
knomehttps://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=26794 (requesting SSL for xubuntu.org)23:54
knomeUnit193, PI-PI-PI-PING!!!!23:54
knomeUnit193, see above.'23:54
Unit193Wow, good timing.23:54
knomeUnit193, check out the docs branch makefiles23:54
knomeUnit193, make pdf and make translate-pdf should both work23:55
knome(for desktop-guide, make pdf from root calls make pdf, but translate isn't linked)23:55
bluesabreochosi: yup23:55
bluesabrepoor poor parole23:55
bluesabrepoorole23:55
bluesabrepoo role?23:55
bluesabre:|23:55
knome:|23:55
knomeTMI23:55
bluesabrelol23:55
bluesabreochosi: didja check out xfpanel-switch?23:56
knomehuhu23:56

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