[00:17] <knome> MrVamps, at least on newer versions it's the monitor with the cursor
[00:20] <MrVamps> knome, it doesnt seem to follow the cursor. i'm tryin to get it "hardset" to display lightdm on the exdternal flat panel, instead of the attached laptop panel as the screen is broken.
[00:34] <holstein> MrVamps: on mine with busted panel, i disable in the bios, the internal.. and set to only external
[00:37] <MrVamps> holstein, thanks for the idea and thought, unfortunately the bios doesnt allow me to use just one or the other..
[00:38] <holstein> what would i do? use arandr to generate what i need, as a script, that i set as a startup script
[00:39] <MrVamps> that's a thought too..
[00:39] <MrVamps> could that be set to run before lightdm come up?
[00:40] <holstein> its all open, so, anything can be 'set'.. though, i wouldnt
[00:40] <holstein> what i find is, the login manager will run on both.. which is fine.. then, you would login, and the desktop goes to, as per the script, just the external monitor
[00:41] <MrVamps> i may just leave well enuf be, i can login, just cant see the login box. so more of an annoyance then a system-breaking issue
[00:42] <holstein> lightdm has config settings..
[00:43] <MrVamps> what bout this setting < minimum-display-number = Minimum display number to use for X servers > what about setting this to 1 instead of 0>
[00:43] <holstein> try it, and see..
[00:43] <MrVamps> cant really hurt, if it doesnt work, set it back to 0
[09:32] <pjotter> Hi people! A question about samba shares, if I may.
[09:32] <pjotter> I have three computers: One Xubuntu 14.04 and one Debian 8.1/xfce and a Windows 7 machine.
[09:32] <pjotter> On the Xubuntu machine I created a samba share that I want to share with the other computers on the network.
[09:33] <pjotter> When I connect to the share using Windows, I can see, create and modify files without any problems. Full access.
[09:34] <pjotter> When I try to connect on the Debian machine, I can see, create but NOT modify files and folders on the share.
[09:35] <pjotter> When I try the same on the Xubuntu machine using thunar/samba... I can see, create and modify files and folders. Any idea why this doesn;t work on Debian?
[09:36] <ObrienDave> ask in #debian?
[09:37] <mks1945> pjotter: install    libpam-winbind, libnss-winbind
[09:37] <pjotter> Hi mks1945
[09:37] <pjotter> Thanks for the answer. What do those do?
[09:38] <mks1945> I had long sex with samba, before installing theese packs
[09:39] <mks1945> it need for auth with winbind
[09:39] <ObrienDave> O.o
[09:39] <ObrienDave> o.O
[09:40] <mks1945> before ubuntu 13.10 it was in samba include, after 13.10, 14.04 need install additional
[09:44] <pjotter> mks1945: libpam-winbind and libnss-winbind had no effect. Problem remains. I can acces the share, create a file. But when I try to open, edit and save that file, it won;t let me save it to that file but instead offers a "save as" window to store the file locally.
[09:45] <pjotter> This is all done through thunar with "browse network".
[10:02] <mks1945> on debian mashine. is user in samba group?
[11:02] <xubuntu41o> Hi has the 14.04, been getting updates, to the original file, since it's release?
[11:04] <knome> yes
[11:05] <bekks> xubuntu41o: Sure. :)
[11:08] <xubuntu41o> Yeah I was pretty sure that it had been updated, but the original has had lots of extra data added to it since then. Really did not want to install the old OS and the do lots of updates, after installing.
[11:09] <bekks> xubuntu41o: You will have to do updates, even with the latest iso.
[11:13] <xubuntu41o> Figured that downloading almost a gig, and the many hundreds of megs more in updates, it would be better to just get the latest version, and only a few more updates on that.
[11:14] <knob> smart
[11:19] <knome> xubuntu41o, just remember 14.04 is LTS, so it has 3 years of support; 15.04 is a regular release, and it only has 9 months of support, so you have to upgrade sooner
[11:22] <xubuntu41o> Anything to be free from microsoft......
[11:28] <xubuntu41o> cio
[12:32] <ArtyB> Hello there, anyone familiar with OpenGL multilib setups?
[12:35] <ArtyB> I've been banging my head against my desk since yesterday trying to install the right drivers/libs so that it'll allow me to link either for 32 bits or 64 bits on the same box...
[12:37] <ArtyB> I'm on 14.04 LTS, btw
[12:43] <ArtyB> I tried installing the mesa packages for both architectures, but they seem to overwrite each other
[12:44] <ArtyB> then I tried with the nvidia-current-dev package and I couldn't link at all with this one... ldd just couldn't resolve -lGL and such
[14:22] <ronin> any idea why i in firefox my flash always asks to activate it before i can use it
[14:23] <ronin> when i select activate, it works after
[14:23] <ronin> until i restart the browser
[14:25] <flocculant> ronin: are you completely updated - there was a recent flash update afaik
[14:25] <ronin> how can i see that
[14:25] <ronin> hmm
[14:25] <holstein> and, it wont be "recent", since, adobe doesnt support flash in linux, by making newer versions
[14:25] <ronin> im all updated but havent updated to 14.04.2
[14:26] <holstein> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ can be referenced to see what versions are supported
[14:26] <flocculant> holstein: there was a recent flash update for the flashplugin in the repos (at least in wily) - which now provides the latest flash we can get
[14:26] <holstein> if one is using version 11, then, one should expect to see sites "complaining
[14:27] <holstein> sure.. one can always get the chrome pepperflash.. released for chrome, and adapted to the repos, for other things..
[14:27] <flocculant> should be Version 11.2.202.491
[14:27] <holstein> right.. but, thats *quite* out of date..
[14:28] <holstein> as for the rest of the internet.. the site would see one using version 11, and popup with whatever messages
[14:28] <flocculant> and - all I can say is that with THAT version - after updating - firefox has stopped complaining
[14:29] <flocculant> the other option of course is to use chrome/chromium probably - or complain to people still serving flash
[14:29] <holstein> cool.. all i can say is, if im using version 11, and the official version from adobe is version 18, i'll expect "complaining" from modern sites..
[14:29] <flocculant> yea ;)
[14:30] <flocculant> doesn't stop - the .491 version being what we have to use though does it
[14:30] <holstein> i use version 18, personally, since, i find the compromise of using older versions to not really support modern content well enough.. so, as we/i phase out flash generally, i choose the pepperflash version
[14:31] <flocculant> ronin: so how do YOU install flash?
[14:31] <flocculant> because that's the real issue here
[14:31] <holstein> check and see if you are using version 11.. if so, its quite old.. you can use http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ to reference what version you are using, and see facts about the versions and what adobe supports
[14:33] <ronin> oh vulnerable 11.2.202.481
[14:33] <ronin> i thought xubuntu would update it for me
[14:33] <ronin> i need to remember to update it myself now on
[14:33] <flocculant> right - so check for the update
[14:33] <holstein> not sure that its "vulnerable".. but, xubuntu cant magically create a version newer than the one adobe provides linux
[14:34] <holstein> but, the pepperflash plugin is in the repos.. a way to aquire the one they make for chrome
[14:34] <flocculant> ronin: there should be an update for that - currrent repo version is .491 for ALL the supported *buntu versions
[14:35] <holstein> in a terminal, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" should get you all you need
[14:35] <slickymasterWork> FWIW ronin, Google patched Chrome with an updated version of Flash -> Chrome 43.0.2357.134
[14:35] <flocculant> holstein: I understand completely what you're saying with this - but as you are aware we're stuck with security updates only from adobe
[14:36] <holstein> flocculant: right.. im not contradicting that in *any* way
[14:36] <flocculant> :)
[14:36] <ronin> yes, it tells me that they dont give more updated version from adobe's website
[14:36] <ronin> Adobe Flash Player 11.2 will be the last version to target Linux as a supported platform. Adobe will continue to provide security backports to Flash Player 11.2 for Linux.
[14:36] <holstein> flocculant: i understand, we get security updates from adobe, that are repackage in the repos.. and runninng "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will get a user of ubuntu the latest version 11
[14:37] <holstein> *or*, one can use the pepperflash, as well.. which gets the google chrome one, that is version 18
[14:37] <ronin> i need to do the dist-upgrade later, im on holidays and im afraid something goes wrong
[14:37] <ronin> cannot risk anything now
[14:37] <ronin> thanks
[14:37] <holstein> ronin: well, its all a risk ;) ..good luck
[14:38] <flocculant> holstein: yea - as I tend to dev version not as easy, last week when I looked - pepper wasn't available where I looked
[14:38] <holstein> !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[14:38] <ronin> the one thing i dont trust in xubuntu is the dist upgrade, i managed to break it twice
[14:38] <holstein> flocculant: its in the repos
[14:38] <flocculant> holstein: and wouldn't install ...
[14:39] <holstein> ronin: dist upgrade is not "distribution upgrade".. if you have breakage, its likely due to 3rd party sources
[14:39] <ronin> oh
[14:39] <ronin> then its safe i guess
[14:39] <holstein> if one adds a bunch of ppa's to 14.04 to extend version support, those sources can cause breakage.. regardless of the upgrade command one uses
[14:41] <ronin> sounds promising:The following packages will be upgraded:   adobe-flash-properties-gtk adobe-flashplugin firefox firefox-globalmenu   firefox-locale-en geogebra5 thunderbird thunderbird-globalmenu   thunderbird-locale-en thunderbird-locale-en-us
[14:42] <holstein> all packages in your sources will get updated
[14:44] <ronin> why is it called dist-upgrade if it's not a distribution upgrade ;D
[14:45] <genii> Historical reasons
[14:45] <holstein> ronin: you can check out "man apt-get" to see what the facts are..
[14:46] <holstein> ronin: http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get for example.. or in your terminal
[14:47] <ronin> ok that fixed the problem
[14:47] <ronin> firefox is back to normal
[14:47] <ronin> merci
[14:47] <holstein> you mean, it upgraded your flash..
[14:47] <ronin> yep
[14:48] <holstein> if the problem is, you are afraid to do updates, because of fear of breakage.. i can understand that.. but, keep in mind, *all* hard drives fail, so, plan for that by having proper backups/images.. and you will not need to fear updates
[14:49] <ronin> well im not afraid of updates, im just on holidays and dont want to do distribution upgrade here
[14:50] <ronin> since i thought dist-upgrade upgraded the whole xubuntu
[14:50] <holstein> you will be offered an upgrade to 16.04.. from LTS to LTS
[14:51] <genii> Well, after 16.04 hits 16.04.1
[14:51] <holstein> yup ^
[14:51] <holstein> so, not til october or so, 2016
[15:14] <josquin> Hello!  After binutils updated, last week, i noticed something.  My terminal, set to transparent, displays only the desktop, rather than the window directly below it.  Should that have happened?  Thanks!
[15:18] <xubuntu98w> Hi
[15:19] <flocculant> indeed, assuming you have a question, I would just ask it - then those who can answer will
[15:19] <xubuntu98w> hi everybody! Does anybody know how to install xubuntu on a chromebook??
[15:20] <Reklan> http://lifehacker.com/how-to-install-linux-on-a-chromebook-and-unlock-its-ful-509039343 is a useful  tutorial\
[15:24] <xubuntu98w> Great. Thanks! I've found this one, but it's two yrs old. that's why i was wondering if the process is still the same
[15:28] <flocculant> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2220912
[15:28] <flocculant> is recentish
[15:29] <flocculant> but frankly you'll probably find more recent info with a decent search string, all we have is chromebook
[15:29] <xubuntu98w> Thanks!
[15:29] <flocculant> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422475&p=8920811&viewfull=1#post8920811
[15:30] <flocculant> read that one next time you need help ;)
[15:30] <flocculant> people WILL help, but none are psychic
[15:30] <xubuntu98w> Well, I thought so but. But somehow the web was not offering that much info.
[15:31] <flocculant> less info is not something people generally need to say ;)
[15:33] <xubuntu98w> Ok. Now you' ve lost me. I know people will help, that is why i asked a question... so thanks for replying
[15:47] <ArtyB> So, huh... Anyone got an insight on my multilib opengl issue?
[15:56] <josquin> Oh, problem solved!  i went into settings and turned on my compositor.  What is binutils?
[16:12] <w30>  I am trying to compile a program but my libraries are too new. Can I make the program use the newer libraries?
[16:13] <w30> or install a million old libs
[16:14] <bazhang> xv
[16:14] <bazhang> you asked about this and got an answer
[16:15] <bazhang> did you need help with the compile flags?
[16:15] <w30> I get lib hell. Like trying to eat a gallon of icecream by licking it.
[16:16] <knome> sounds like the application is so old that it would need some love anyway.
[16:16] <w30> bazhang, I need to do something with compile flags?  What are those?
[16:16] <bazhang> you want to brink back something that has not been maintained for nearly 20 years
[16:17] <w30> bazhang, nah....just install it.
[16:17] <bazhang> compiling is the only way to bring it back
[16:18] <bazhang> so its bringing back in a very real sense
[16:18] <bazhang> 1994 is pretty long ago
[16:18] <w30> bazhang, so I have to become a compile expert and learn all about compile flags?
[16:19] <knome> w30, if you want to build software that is 20 years old, likely
[16:19] <bazhang> or use tools that long displaced that
[16:19] <bazhang> that would be kernel series one or something
[16:19] <w30> bazhang, I will be dead by then........sighs.
[16:20] <bazhang> series one was 20 years ago
[16:20] <bazhang> in the past
[16:20] <w30> I mean learning compiling...
[16:21] <knome> alternatively, you can run a distribution from 20 years ago. easy!
[16:21] <bazhang> do vm's even run software from then?
[16:21] <knome> hardware from 20 years back does..
[16:22] <Unit193> bazhang: I had a VM run Windows 3.1. :P
[16:22] <bazhang> Unit193, nice
[16:22] <bazhang> !warty
[16:23] <Unit193> !warty
[16:23] <knome> i've ran it in dosbox
[16:23] <bazhang> it wont be an ubuntu vm thats for sure
[16:27] <w30>  RedHat 5.0 is not cutting edge any more/????????
[16:28] <bazhang> ask in #rhel  thats offtopic here w30
[16:29] <w30> I think usb was command line only in that
[16:30] <w30> bazhang, I will stay with 7/21/2015
[16:32] <w30> thanks all, sorry I ask too much.
[19:40] <danniel> hi
[19:40] <knome> hello
[19:42] <danniel> whats up
[20:52] <tach4n> hello, I changed my username with moduser but the username in the display manager (lightdm?) hasn't changed - xubuntu 15.04
[20:52] <holstein> tach4n: you can login, though? or only in tty?
[20:52] <knome> the real name isn't the username
[20:53] <tach4n> holstein: yes I can login
[20:53] <tach4n> knome: does it do that, display the real name instead of user name?
[20:53] <knome> yes
[20:53] <tach4n> knome: for the other accounts it just displays username, but perhaps that's because they don't have a real name set, let me check
[20:54] <knome> likely so
[20:57] <tach4n> that worked, thanks
[21:22] <glauxosdever> Sry, my xubuntu boted onto text mod.