| didrocks | good morning | 05:11 |
|---|---|---|
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:10 |
| anpok_ | seb128: ok .. AlbertA removed the libmirprotobuf0 ABI breaks from 0.14 | 07:17 |
| anpok_ | with that boottest should work | 07:17 |
| seb128 | anpok_, does that resolve the usc issue? | 07:18 |
| seb128 | great :-) | 07:18 |
| anpok_ | need to fix my krillin - I bricked it yesterday with my last attempt to bump libmirprotobuf0 to 1 which went boom.. | 07:19 |
| Noskcaj | Does anyone here have the time to upload gegl 0.3? | 07:22 |
| Noskcaj | It and the required patches to gnome-photos and gimp are in ppa:noskcaj/gegl | 07:23 |
| Noskcaj | Debian hasn't yet uploaded this due to a lack of response from the gimp maintainer, and it would be nice to get it before FF | 07:23 |
| willcooke | hihi | 08:04 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 08:05 |
| seb128 | how is u.k today? | 08:05 |
| willcooke | so far, not bad. Nice and warm | 08:05 |
| willcooke | how about you? | 08:06 |
| davmor2 | seb128: warm and grey here | 08:06 |
| Laney | heya | 08:06 |
| seb128 | not so sunny here today | 08:07 |
| seb128 | hey Laney | 08:07 |
| Laney | anpok_: nice! | 08:07 |
| Laney | hey seb128 willcooke davmor2 | 08:07 |
| Laney | what's up? | 08:07 |
| Laney | yeah pretty grey here | 08:07 |
| seb128 | Noskcaj, is that new gegl a transition? is there a bug about it? | 08:07 |
| davmor2 | Laney: Ceiling, Sky, Clouds and stuff | 08:08 |
| Laney | troposphere stratosphere mesosphere thermosphere exosphere | 08:11 |
| seb128 | *sphere | 08:12 |
| Laney | heliosphere | 08:13 |
| Laney | probably more spheres that i don't know about | 08:13 |
| willcooke | don't forget heaven | 08:14 |
| Laney | is that up???? | 08:15 |
| davmor2 | ISS | 08:16 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: can't blag me the song specifically says Heaven is a place on Earth :P | 08:16 |
| Noskcaj | seb128, yes, there's a transition. There's a debian auto-gegl tracker, and we have bugs for the new upstream release of gegl and gnome-photos from robert_ancell, but no actual transition bug | 08:17 |
| seb128 | Noskcaj, how is debian handling that transition if they don't update gegl? | 08:18 |
| seb128 | Noskcaj, can you share the bug numbers? | 08:18 |
| Noskcaj | bug 1470282 bug 1470658 | 08:19 |
| ubot5 | bug 1470282 in gegl (Ubuntu) "Update to 0.3" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1470282 | 08:19 |
| ubot5 | bug 1470658 in gnome-photos (Ubuntu) "Update to 3.16" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1470658 | 08:19 |
| Noskcaj | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=790421 | 08:20 |
| ubot5 | Debian bug 790421 in src:gimp "gimp: please bump GEGL build-dependency to 0.3.0" [Wishlist,Open] | 08:20 |
| seb128 | I guess first step would be to add your work to the first bug and subscribe sponsors then? | 08:20 |
| Noskcaj | it's in debian exp currently, waiting on a response from the gimp maintainer AFAIK | 08:20 |
| seb128 | response to what? | 08:21 |
| seb128 | is there an issue/concern with gimp? | 08:21 |
| Noskcaj | about patching gimp to support the new gegl | 08:21 |
| Noskcaj | It's just changing compile stuff, no real code patches | 08:21 |
| seb128 | is that patch upstream? | 08:21 |
| Laney | renamed pcfile | 08:21 |
| Noskcaj | I've tested gimp and gnome-photos | 08:21 |
| Noskcaj | brb, dinner | 08:21 |
| darkxst | hey Laney seb128, robert_ancell bounced me back to you guys for the u-s-d/u-c-c gsettings changes ;( | 08:28 |
| seb128 | lol | 08:28 |
| seb128 | he's not interested? or too busy? or not in agreement? | 08:28 |
| darkxst | seb128, said he didnt understand enough about the changes | 08:28 |
| Laney | haha | 08:28 |
| seb128 | k, same than me then :p | 08:29 |
| seb128 | it needs somebody wanting to sit down for some hours | 08:29 |
| darkxst | I added some more details on the bug about what has changed | 08:29 |
| Laney | i am supposed to patch pilot some time | 08:29 |
| Laney | will look then | 08:29 |
| darkxst | Laney, k, thanks | 08:29 |
| seb128 | somebody should hit GNOME with a "gsettings schemas are api" stick | 08:33 |
| === JMulholland_ is now known as JMulholland | ||
| darkxst | seb128, at the same time, it makes no sense having mutter use schemas from g-s-d (under wayland, where the g-s-d plugin is disabled) | 08:36 |
| seb128 | darkxst, it doesn't need to, they could have let the old schemas in place untouched and created a new set of keys | 08:37 |
| seb128 | having some migration code write the new keys on first start and letting the old untouched | 08:38 |
| seb128 | and having the new code using the new keys only | 08:38 |
| seb128 | that would have let the old "api" untouched | 08:38 |
| darkxst | seb128, the issue here is that u-s-d shares g-s-d schemas | 08:38 |
| darkxst | seb128, how do you know the settings have been migrated? | 08:38 |
| seb128 | you write a new boolean key "settings-migrated"? | 08:39 |
| seb128 | which default to false | 08:39 |
| darkxst | the GNOME approach was to reset everything to default setting | 08:39 |
| seb128 | and write it to true when you do the migration | 08:39 |
| darkxst | seb128, but really this is a unique case, no other downstream, shares the g-s-d schemas | 08:42 |
| Noskcaj | seb128, gimp is patched upstream, but i've not yet found the patch | 08:42 |
| seb128 | darkxst, it's the usual GNOME line of thinking, they do the same for GTK | 08:48 |
| seb128 | "let's change ABI, the only users of that API that we know about are things we can fix' | 08:48 |
| seb128 | oh well, I guess that's not a discussion that's going to help there | 08:49 |
| seb128 | darkxst, if Laney doesn't review it I can try to have a look this week | 08:49 |
| seb128 | but same as robert_ancell, I don't understand the details atm | 08:50 |
| darkxst | seb128, its a little different to GTK, but yes I do agree they behave similar in that case | 08:53 |
| darkxst | since there is absolutely no guarantee about g-s-d api's/schemas | 08:59 |
| Noskcaj | upstream gegl patch https://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp/commit/configure.ac?id=f72c138771369575f87f272be1cb94372c220d97 | 09:03 |
| seb128 | that commit is from 2013 | 09:07 |
| Noskcaj | yes | 09:07 |
| Noskcaj | gimp hasn't had a new major release in years | 09:07 |
| Noskcaj | and that's in master, not the 2.8 branch | 09:07 |
| seb128 | you made sure that 2.8 builds with the new gegl? | 09:08 |
| Noskcaj | yep, that's what's in the ppa | 09:08 |
| Noskcaj | worked fine on my pc | 09:08 |
| seb128 | k | 09:09 |
| seb128 | no gegl in the sponsoring queue? | 09:09 |
| seb128 | let me know when it's there and I can have a look | 09:10 |
| Noskcaj | there | 09:10 |
| Noskcaj | the ~ppa1 versions will need dropping, i won't have time to do that for a while, so just take it if you can please | 09:11 |
| seb128 | there? | 09:11 |
| Noskcaj | there = sponsors subscribed | 09:12 |
| seb128 | k | 09:13 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| desrt | *yawn* good morning desktop | 12:19 |
| seb128 | hey desrt | 12:39 |
| seb128 | desrt, how are you? | 12:40 |
| desrt | okay | 12:40 |
| desrt | how's life in schengen? | 12:40 |
| seb128 | good | 12:40 |
| seb128 | we have some sun again since yesterday ;-) | 12:40 |
| didrocks | morning desrt! | 12:40 |
| desrt | it's been great here lately | 12:40 |
| desrt | except a bit humid :) | 12:40 |
| desrt | hihi didrocks | 12:40 |
| didrocks | still really warm here | 12:40 |
| * desrt is starting to get excited about vacation :) | 12:41 | |
| didrocks | will be better in a couple of hours, supposed to rain | 12:41 |
| seb128 | desrt, when/where do you go? | 12:41 |
| desrt | i have two weeks off starting monday | 12:41 |
| desrt | when i return, i will not be the same person | 12:41 |
| desrt | my mind will have been warped | 12:41 |
| desrt | two solid weeks of speaking esperanto | 12:42 |
| seb128 | :-) | 12:42 |
| seb128 | do you go to any european conf after that? | 12:42 |
| desrt | debconf is two weeks after | 12:42 |
| desrt | then back home | 12:42 |
| seb128 | so spending a bit over a month in europe? | 12:43 |
| desrt | about a month | 12:43 |
| desrt | two weeks after = "not the next week, but the one after" | 12:43 |
| seb128 | I see | 12:43 |
| seb128 | we probably see each others at debconf then ;-) | 12:43 |
| desrt | reminds me | 12:44 |
| * desrt has to send an email about that | 12:44 | |
| seb128 | I'm still not 100% sure going but I should | 12:44 |
| desrt | is everyone eating at the venue place? | 12:45 |
| desrt | ie: did you take the meal option in the sign-up? | 12:45 |
| seb128 | no | 12:46 |
| seb128 | I didn't at least | 12:46 |
| desrt | "From the main train station you can reach the youth hostel by bus within 10 minutes" | 12:46 |
| desrt | sounds like there will be no shortage of food outside :) | 12:47 |
| didrocks | I didn't either | 12:48 |
| didrocks | seb128: but your room is book, isn't it? | 12:49 |
| didrocks | booked* | 12:49 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I guess so, Michelle was supposed to do the booking no? | 12:49 |
| seb128 | I didn't check | 12:49 |
| desrt | msm sent an email to me saying that she booked me a room | 12:49 |
| didrocks | seb128: I don't know if she doesn't only do that for those having their travel request number | 12:50 |
| seb128 | I've a confirmation number on the gdoc | 12:51 |
| seb128 | so I guess she did | 12:51 |
| didrocks | great :) | 12:51 |
| desrt | attente will be here soon | 12:51 |
| desrt | i'm going to go put on some pants | 12:51 |
| desrt | :D | 12:51 |
| seb128 | lol | 12:52 |
| didrocks | ;) | 12:52 |
| desrt | there's a bit of an inside joke there. ask attente some time about his new opinion on pants ;) | 12:52 |
| seb128 | or ask him about swimming pants | 12:54 |
| seb128 | I'm sure Laney remembers ;-) | 12:54 |
| desrt | was there an 'accident'? | 12:54 |
| seb128 | let's say that one should be aware that some clothes become transparents when wet | 12:56 |
| desrt | oh. i see. | 12:56 |
| desrt | or maybe i'd prefer not to see, in fact... | 12:56 |
| seb128 | right | 12:56 |
| desrt | that is some seriously poor engineering on swim shorts.... | 12:56 |
| seb128 | unsure if those were designed to swim | 12:56 |
| seb128 | or if attente just decided to pick that to go swimming | 12:57 |
| desrt | no 'usability testing' | 12:57 |
| didrocks | you are not supposed to wear pants in swimming pool, so then, bear with it! :) | 12:57 |
| * ogra_ finds another channel to lurk | 12:57 | |
| desrt | "William is a young software engineer. He enjoys rock climbing and swimming." | 12:57 |
| desrt | ^ gotta have your usecases down | 12:57 |
| attente | D: | 13:32 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| seb128 | tedg, what makes an url type defined for url-dispatcher? | 13:35 |
| tedg | seb128, If the package has a hook for a url-dispatcher file. | 13:35 |
| tedg | seb128, We then parse it and put that into a cache database | 13:35 |
| tedg | seb128, So technically, in the sqlite db, but realistically the url-dispatcher file is how you get there. | 13:36 |
| seb128 | tedg, hum, so entries in /usr/share/url-dispatcher/urls/ ? | 13:36 |
| tedg | seb128, Yeah, for debs | 13:37 |
| tedg | seb128, I was thinking you were asking for clicks | 13:37 |
| seb128 | tedg, I'm trying to understand bug 1477149 | 13:37 |
| ubot5 | bug 1477149 in gallery-app (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/gallery-app:url-dispatcher-bad-url" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1477149 | 13:38 |
| ogra_ | for clicks you use an "app.url-dispatcher" file .... http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ogra/junk/google-plus-app/files | 13:38 |
| seb128 | tedg, which is basically appid:/// not being recogniezed | 13:38 |
| seb128 | " appid://com.ubuntu.camera/camera/current-user-version " | 13:38 |
| tedg | seb128, appid:/// is handled internally, so in that case it is the camera not being installed. | 13:38 |
| seb128 | it's installed | 13:39 |
| seb128 | and I can start it from the dash | 13:39 |
| tedg | seb128, click list ? | 13:39 |
| tedg | seb128, Is it still called com.ubuntu.camera ? | 13:39 |
| seb128 | it's not a click | 13:39 |
| seb128 | that's on the snappy personal image | 13:39 |
| tedg | Oh, then that appid won't work. | 13:39 |
| seb128 | yeah for convergence :-/ | 13:39 |
| tedg | Why is it not a click on personal? | 13:40 |
| seb128 | because snappy and clicks are not friends | 13:40 |
| seb128 | we have snaps there only | 13:40 |
| tedg | Ah, so we need a way to launch snaps. | 13:40 |
| tedg | Which requires a way for snaps to define applications instead of binaries. | 13:41 |
| seb128 | well, camera is not snapified yet | 13:41 |
| seb128 | it's part of the image | 13:41 |
| seb128 | but I guess you have no interest in supporting debs on the base image? | 13:41 |
| tedg | I'm not sure how that'd really work... | 13:41 |
| tedg | We're using those fields to look up in the Click database. | 13:42 |
| seb128 | can't we just look up for a <name>.desktop | 13:42 |
| tedg | I think the work around that would be possible is if you had the camera register camera:/// and then gallery call that. | 13:42 |
| tedg | Then the deb could register that URL and we could call the desktop file. | 13:42 |
| tedg | I need to run a kid to camp, brb. | 13:43 |
| seb128 | tedg, thanks for the replies! | 13:43 |
| ogra_ | seb128, do you happen to know a way to set a kbd layout on a user level without accessing the system settings (/me just has a question on G+ from someone using a real kbd with his phone and i dont want to suggest making it writable) | 13:53 |
| seb128 | ogra_, under mir? no idea, I don't even know if that's possible... | 13:53 |
| ogra_ | heh, k | 13:54 |
| ogra_ | thanks | 13:54 |
| seb128 | greyback_ might know | 13:54 |
| seb128 | yw | 13:54 |
| ogra_ | well, for convergence it will have to be possible ... one day :) | 13:54 |
| seb128 | yeah, kenvandine is working with the mir team to get api defined for input config | 13:55 |
| ogra_ | (but i guess we'll just add keymaps to the rootfs and make the confi dir writable for that) | 13:55 |
| greyback_ | ogra_: I believe mir supports different kbd layouts, but unity8 not exporting that yet | 13:55 |
| ogra_ | ah, k | 13:55 |
| dgadomski | cyphermox: hey, do you have a sec to talk about bug #1297849? | 14:40 |
| ubot5 | bug 1297849 in network-manager-vpnc (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Virtual private network connection fails after distribution upgrade due to outdated Network Manager configuration files" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1297849 | 14:40 |
| cyphermox | sure | 14:40 |
| dgadomski | cyphermox: I don't know what the root cause is, but since it has be identified that it has something to do with obtaining shell version by dbus it may be some kind of a race condition | 14:41 |
| dgadomski | upstream has removed this shell watcher implementation | 14:41 |
| dgadomski | do you think backporting https://git.gnome.org/browse/network-manager-applet/commit/?id=4473e6a48fcfda1d87d4a4bc9f5c0589235dcfe0 makes sense? | 14:41 |
| dgadomski | I think it will make the problem go away, but I'm not sure if it will not have any unwanted implications | 14:42 |
| cyphermox | it looks fine, aiui we also don't autostart in the shell, but better make sure first | 14:45 |
| dgadomski | I've done some tests with this change backported and saw no problems | 14:46 |
| cyphermox | otherwise the other patch looked okay-ish | 14:46 |
| cyphermox | in which release? | 14:46 |
| dgadomski | however, I haven't been able to reproduce the problem in the first place | 14:46 |
| cyphermox | ok | 14:46 |
| dgadomski | in vivid | 14:46 |
| cyphermox | ok | 14:46 |
| dgadomski | maybe I can prepare a ppa and ask for testing in a comment | 14:46 |
| cyphermox | bah | 14:47 |
| cyphermox | let me just check the autostart, then we can just upload to trusty-proposed | 14:47 |
| dgadomski | backporting to trusty is less trivial, I would need more time to merge it | 14:48 |
| dgadomski | or we could use the other patch for trusty | 14:48 |
| cyphermox | sorry i meant vivid :) | 14:50 |
| dgadomski | phew :) | 14:51 |
| dgadomski | attaching debdiff to the bug is ok? | 14:51 |
| cyphermox | sure, but what concerns me is that I'm not sure this is gnome-shell specific | 14:52 |
| dgadomski | cyphermox: I've analyzed comment #60 and it makes sense, for whatever reason nm-applet hangs there before it failed to obtain shell version in 5 attempts | 14:57 |
| dgadomski | so it's either a race condition or something else, but this patch should remove that dependency | 14:57 |
| cyphermox | dgadomski: the short patch with a notify is safest | 15:06 |
| cyphermox | but I'm still not convinced it will actually really fix the "bugs" people are seeing | 15:06 |
| dgadomski | cyphermox: for both vivid & trusty? | 15:07 |
| cyphermox | vivid and utopic | 15:07 |
| cyphermox | well, for wily too | 15:07 |
| cyphermox | can you upload? | 15:07 |
| dgadomski | I can only attach it to the bug (but it's already there), I don't have other upload rights | 15:08 |
| cyphermox | ok | 15:09 |
| cyphermox | well I already have a debdiff then | 15:09 |
| cyphermox | I'll do the uploads now | 15:09 |
| dgadomski | cool, thanks | 15:09 |
| * Laney cries at moar autopkgtest failures | 15:28 | |
| cyphermox | dgadomski: uploaded to wily., utopic and trusty, but there currently is a package in -proposed for vivid. | 15:46 |
| dgadomski | thanks | 15:48 |
| dgadomski | so I guess it will hit vivid-proposed right after this one will be promoted to -updates, right? | 15:48 |
| willcooke | hrm. Just downloaded the W daily image and I can't log in. From /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log | 15:52 |
| willcooke | I see that unity-greeter.vala died | 15:52 |
| willcooke | is that a red herring? | 15:52 |
| seb128 | willcooke, what happens when you try to log in? | 15:57 |
| willcooke | seb128, it just sits there | 15:57 |
| seb128 | on the greeter? | 15:58 |
| seb128 | like after you entered your password? | 15:58 |
| willcooke | I've just got purple salad "Ubuntu 15.10" in the cornet | 15:58 |
| willcooke | corner | 15:58 |
| willcooke | the login boxes etc have gone | 15:58 |
| seb128 | can you check what logs are in .cache/upstart ? | 15:58 |
| seb128 | like gnome-session-Unity.log | 15:58 |
| willcooke | dont have that one | 15:59 |
| seb128 | weird | 15:59 |
| willcooke | have dbus, jayatana, notify-cgmanager and unity-gtk-module | 15:59 |
| seb128 | anything in ~/.xsession-errors ? | 15:59 |
| willcooke | $things terminated with status 127 | 16:00 |
| seb128 | right, those are not an issue | 16:02 |
| seb128 | what about /var/log/*.log? | 16:02 |
| seb128 | the lightdm and greeter ones | 16:02 |
| seb128 | can you pastebin those? | 16:02 |
| willcooke | sure | 16:04 |
| willcooke | seb128, how's this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11920734/ | 16:05 |
| seb128 | willcooke, it's like you entered wrong password or something | 16:06 |
| seb128 | "[+13.27s] DEBUG: Session: Failed during authentication" | 16:06 |
| seb128 | then you tried a guest session which "worked" it seems | 16:07 |
| willcooke | seb128, guest session is the same | 16:10 |
| seb128 | not according to the log | 16:10 |
| willcooke | lies | 16:10 |
| willcooke | ! | 16:10 |
| willcooke | ;) | 16:10 |
| seb128 | /var/lib/lightdm-data/guest-TYxDIn/.xsession-errors doesn't have more issues? | 16:11 |
| seb128 | or /var/lib/lightdm-data/guest-TYxDIn/.cache/upstart | 16:11 |
| seb128 | but it looks like your normal session failed on auth issues ... you are sure of your password? not keymap issue? | 16:11 |
| Laney | password on a live session? | 16:12 |
| willcooke | I've tired another guest session, same deal, just sits there | 16:13 |
| willcooke | having checked /var/lib/lightdm-data/guest<whatever> | 16:13 |
| willcooke | there is no .xsession-errors file | 16:13 |
| willcooke | or indeed a .cache dir | 16:14 |
| * willcooke tries a live session from usb | 16:15 | |
| seb128 | Laney, who said it's a live session? | 16:15 |
| willcooke | oh, side note - when I boot up the network notification is just a black oblong | 16:15 |
| seb128 | I assumed it was a new install | 16:15 |
| Laney | "the W daily image" | 16:15 |
| willcooke | yeah, install from the daily iso | 16:15 |
| seb128 | right, I assumed it was an install from the daily | 16:15 |
| Laney | I wouldn't call that booting the daily image | 16:15 |
| seb128 | nobody said that | 16:16 |
| seb128 | he said he downloaded the daily image :p | 16:16 |
| seb128 | anyway | 16:16 |
| seb128 | willcooke, is that a liveCD or an install? | 16:16 |
| willcooke | install | 16:16 |
| seb128 | if it's an install, was the live session working? | 16:16 |
| willcooke | just trying a live session from usb now... | 16:16 |
| seb128 | or did you pick the installer mode? | 16:16 |
| willcooke | I did installer | 16:17 |
| willcooke | live session just booting.... | 16:17 |
| seb128 | k | 16:17 |
| willcooke | hrm, black screen | 16:17 |
| willcooke | I can get to tty1 | 16:18 |
| Laney | same here | 16:18 |
| Laney | something is fucked | 16:18 |
| seb128 | k | 16:18 |
| seb128 | I don't have a daily handy, I can download one but it's likely going to be a first thing tomorrow for me | 16:19 |
| seb128 | I wonder if that's the buggy live-build upload that bugged upstart on the phone | 16:19 |
| seb128 | there was a fix just uploaded for that | 16:19 |
| Laney | only-ubiquity mode works | 16:19 |
| Laney | weird | 16:19 |
| seb128 | I guess upstart buggy would only bug the user sessions | 16:20 |
| seb128 | since system is systemd | 16:20 |
| seb128 | unsure about ubiquity mode | 16:20 |
| Laney | yeah that probably doesn't use upstart | 16:20 |
| seb128 | k, so my bet is on that | 16:20 |
| seb128 | willcooke, I would say to wait tomorrow morning | 16:20 |
| seb128 | it's likely fix commited and going to be good on next iso build | 16:20 |
| Laney | what is worrying is that the smoke testing passed | 16:20 |
| willcooke | sure thing, thanks | 16:20 |
| Laney | ... | 16:20 |
| seb128 | we have a "boot to desktop" test? | 16:21 |
| Laney | obviously not | 16:21 |
| seb128 | k, I was unsure what is in the tests you just mentioned | 16:21 |
| seb128 | but I guess "not enough" | 16:22 |
| Laney | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-test-case-dev/ubuntu-test-cases/desktop/files/head:/testsuites/usit/ | 16:23 |
| seb128 | k | 16:23 |
| seb128 | nothing about the user session indeed | 16:23 |
| Laney | I don't know if they run on an installed system or just the image | 16:24 |
| Laney | cyphermox: halp? | 16:24 |
| Laney | well, actually a test that live mode works would have been enough here | 16:25 |
| Laney | indeed I see initctl not found in .cache/upstart/dbus.log | 16:26 |
| Laney | willcooke: if you reinstall upstart it fixes things, btw | 16:28 |
| Laney | apt-get install --reinstall upstart | 16:28 |
| * willcooke tries | 16:28 | |
| willcooke | yah! | 16:29 |
| willcooke | is good | 16:29 |
| cyphermox | hello? | 16:29 |
| Laney | hey, how's it going? ;) | 16:30 |
| cyphermox | not bad, you? :) | 16:30 |
| Laney | super | 16:30 |
| Laney | it's nearly quittin' time | 16:30 |
| Laney | aaaaaaaaaaaanyway | 16:30 |
| willcooke | Laney, next time you boot you daily can you see if you also get a black oblong where the "Connected to network" notification should be while in the greeter. Might just be me | 16:30 |
| Laney | willcooke: those happen in the greeter on the desktop for me, I think it's a driver/compositing/something thing | 16:31 |
| Laney | maybe Robert knows | 16:31 |
| willcooke | oki, thx | 16:31 |
| Laney | cyphermox: I/we was wondering about the smoke tests... do they operate purely on the image or do/can they work on the resulting installed system? | 16:31 |
| Laney | cyphermox: Today's image has a busted live session due to missing /sbin/initctl and yet smoke testing passed | 16:32 |
| cyphermox | they do work on the installed system | 16:32 |
| cyphermox | that's how lvm test works | 16:32 |
| Laney | so can we add a test that checks unity comes up, or something? | 16:32 |
| cyphermox | smoke tests are busted in general, I think they don't fail if it times out in some particular state | 16:32 |
| cyphermox | well, provided you have one way to test that | 16:32 |
| cyphermox | I'm thinking we should add a "desktop screenshot" thing at the end, just to be safe. | 16:33 |
| cyphermox | (if it's not already tehre) | 16:33 |
| Laney | I just see tests which poke around the filesystem, nothing which does anything desktoppy | 16:33 |
| Laney | unless that is somewhere else | 16:33 |
| cyphermox | the empty app thing | 16:34 |
| cyphermox | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-test-case-dev/ubuntu-test-cases/desktop/files/head:/testsuites/usit/empty_startup_app/ | 16:34 |
| Laney | ah right, cool | 16:35 |
| Laney | sooo... did that pass? | 16:35 |
| Laney | do these even all get run? | 16:36 |
| cyphermox | ah, wait, no | 16:36 |
| cyphermox | the oem-config one should be failing | 16:36 |
| cyphermox | if it was run.. | 16:36 |
| Laney | https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/wily/view/Smoke%20Testing/job/wily-desktop-amd64-smoke-oem/ | 16:37 |
| Laney | it ran yesterday | 16:37 |
| Laney | ... | 16:37 |
| cyphermox | yeah, this is special | 16:37 |
| cyphermox | jsut a sec | 16:37 |
| Laney | I'm going to file a bug | 16:38 |
| Laney | are you the right person to be going to for this stuff or should it be the QA team? | 16:38 |
| cyphermox | it runs next to nothing: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-test-case-dev/ubuntu-test-cases/desktop/view/head:/runlists/default.run | 16:38 |
| Laney | HAHA | 16:39 |
| cyphermox | it's not really owned by anyone | 16:40 |
| cyphermox | I can enable moar tests and then start the smoke testing again, we'll see how things behave | 16:41 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQC7dweRTKU you'll appreciate this :) | 16:41 |
| cyphermox | Laney: tests still might need adjustin' | 16:42 |
| Laney | probably | 16:43 |
| willcooke | davmor2, screw you! :D | 16:43 |
| cyphermox | ahahaha | 16:43 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: you're welcome | 16:43 |
| Laney | cyphermox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-test-cases/+bug/1477227 | 16:44 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1477227 in Ubuntu Test Cases "Desktop ISO smoke testing coverage is not very good" [Undecided,New] | 16:44 |
| cyphermox | Laney: thanks | 16:44 |
| cyphermox | so, about the live session now, I think there are no tests for it | 16:44 |
| cyphermox | how do we not have an initctl? | 16:45 |
| Laney | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/live-build/+bug/1477051 | 16:46 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1477051 in live-build (Ubuntu) "Phones on devel-proposed do not boot - /bin/sh: 1: /bin/sh: initctl: not found" [Critical,Confirmed] | 16:46 |
| cyphermox | cute. | 16:47 |
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| willcooke | gnight | 18:44 |
| Noskcaj | seb128, Where you going to upload gimp too? | 19:34 |
| Noskcaj | *were | 19:34 |
| seb128 | Noskcaj, yeah, sorry got sidetracked | 19:43 |
| seb128 | going to be for tomorrow | 19:43 |
| seb128 | or maybe some .au/.nz/.us can sponsor it for you | 19:44 |
| seb128 | you can try asking TheMuso or robert_ancell or on #ubuntu-devel | 19:44 |
| seb128 | night | 19:44 |
| Noskcaj | Is someone around to upload gimp from ppa:noskcaj/gegl ? | 19:45 |
| Noskcaj | robert_ancell, Do you have time to upload gimp from ppa:noskcaj/gegl? | 21:35 |
| robert_ancell | Noskcaj, sure | 21:35 |
| Noskcaj | seb128 already uploaded the other 2 packages | 21:35 |
| Noskcaj | ty | 21:35 |
| robert_ancell | Noskcaj, thanks for doing that migration! | 21:35 |
| Noskcaj | no problem | 21:35 |
| Noskcaj | There's some gcc5 build issue with the new gegl, although i'm not sure if it's gegl or ilmbase at fault | 21:36 |
| Noskcaj | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/212351937/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.gegl_0.3.0-2ubuntu2~gcc5.1_BUILDING.txt.gz | 21:36 |
| robert_ancell | Noskcaj, why did you add the build-dep on libjson-glib-dev? | 21:38 |
| Noskcaj | It was in the debian patch, i've not actually check if it's needed or not | 21:39 |
| Noskcaj | Could you please drop it? | 21:40 |
| robert_ancell | sure | 21:40 |
| robert_ancell | Noskcaj, Uploaded as 2.8.14-1ubuntu2. I also update the changelog to be more detailed. | 21:42 |
| Noskcaj | thanks | 21:42 |
| Noskcaj | robert_ancell, looks like we've found out why json-glib was needed | 21:48 |
| robert_ancell | Noskcaj, heh, I was wondering if that would happen :) | 21:48 |
| robert_ancell | Uploads are cheap | 21:48 |
| Noskcaj | for you, i need to pretend i never make a mistake until i can get motu | 21:48 |
| Noskcaj | I'll have a look and find if the dep should be part of gegl | 21:49 |
| robert_ancell | Noskcaj, yeah, it's probably in the .pc file | 21:49 |
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