[04:13] <mappps> hi all
[05:27] <knightwise> morning
[05:29] <knightwise> how are you mappps
[05:29] <mappps> hey.all good..you?
[05:29] <mappps> was watching suits;]
[05:30] <knightwise> just watched ep 4 of mr robot over breakfast
[05:32] <mappps> ah cool
[05:32] <mappps> like it?
[05:33] <knightwise> its ... strange
[05:33] <mappps> heh
[05:33] <knightwise> there are a lot of cool geeky references in it but .. The story is very bizarre
[05:33] <mappps> yea
[05:34] <mappps> must remember dont mention what i have
[05:34] <mappps> someone at work wanted to borrow one of my laptops...as he broke his
[05:34] <mappps> I HATE lending electronics out
[05:34] <mappps> hate hate hat
[05:34] <mappps> e
[05:34] <knightwise> i never lend out hardware
[05:34] <mappps> come back damaged or something
[05:34] <mappps> yea why cant he just buy one for goodness sake
[05:34] <mappps> laptops are cheap as these days
[05:34] <knightwise> true.
[05:35] <mappps> 'oh you have 2 with you ..cant be doing anything'
[05:35] <mappps> so i had to format and reinstall..not giving someone a machine i use
[05:35] <mappps> dont want people snooping around
[05:37] <knightwise> mappps: I laugh in their face when people say that
[05:37] <knightwise> i'm an IT guy .. buy your own machine
[05:37] <mappps> ya
[05:37] <mappps> i paid 349 for my lenovo i3 months back
[05:37] <mappps> just buy one for 300 or 250
[05:37] <mappps> hardly a lot
[05:38] <knightwise> yep .. if its not important enough to buy your own ... you don't need one
[05:38] <mappps> he just wanted it for the net he says
[05:38] <mappps> i said if it comes back damaged in any way i dont want to HEAR ANY excuses
[05:39] <mappps> i gave it to him in perfect condition and i want it back the same
[05:39] <mappps> fair imo
[05:42] <knightwise> tell him to go buy a friggin chromebook :)
[05:42] <mappps> ja
[05:42] <knightwise> go surf porn on his own machine
[05:43] <mappps> heh
[05:44] <knightwise> I bet you didn't want that mental image stuck in your head did ya
[05:46] <mappps> heh
[05:46] <mappps> watching mr robot e5 atm:D
[05:46] <mappps> might go to the fair tonight
[05:46] <mappps> ferriea
[05:49] <knightwise> ep 5 ,
[05:49] <knightwise> thats fresh , gonna get that
[05:51] <mappps> ;]
[06:19] <knightwise> incoming :)
[06:20] <knightwise> ok , the nagiospi i built is working pretty smoothly :)
[06:20] <knightwise>  its currently monitoring my websites and all of my internal network devices and servers
[06:20] <mappps> whts that
[06:20] <mappps> actually think i lookd at it nagios monitorring thing?
[06:21] <mappps> couldnt get it to work
[06:25] <knightwise> it was pretty ok , i just copied the image to the pi , booted it up and added a couple of hosts via the web interface
[06:59] <diplo> Morning all
[07:09] <knightwise> hey diplo
[07:21] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:27] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:27] <knightwise> hey MooDoo , brobostigon
[07:27] <brobostigon> hi knightwise
[07:28] <knightwise> I wonder if sourceforge is back up today
[07:28] <knightwise> need to figure something out in the Nagios Documentation
[07:40] <MooDoo> knightwise: yeah it's been down a few days now hasn't it
[08:31] <TwistedLucidity> knightwise: It was up on Monday for me
[08:31] <TwistedLucidity> And it was up yesterday as I had to grab hp-lip
[08:49] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:53] <Myrtti_> trying to plan a honeymoon sucks
[08:54] <bigcalm> Myrtti_: go for an all inclusive package somewhere. Let other people have that organising stress
[08:54] <Myrtti_> bigcalm: too late for that, we have booked the flights (but nothing else) already
[08:54] <bigcalm> Hayley and I did a coach trip to Belgium as our mini-moon and then a cruise to Norway the following year as our proper honeymoon
[08:55] <Myrtti_> glorious Virgin Atlantic Premium Economy, yeah baby yeah!
[08:56] <Myrtti_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2HBdRCroks mwhahahaha
[09:02] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Gorgeous Grandma Day! 😃
[09:02] <bigcalm> Grandma, we love you
[09:03] <bigcalm> Grandma, we do
[09:04] <JamesTait> https://youtu.be/g5TVKhjEVtQ
[09:17]  * zmoylan-pi hums matchstick men and matchstick cats & dogs to get grandad earworm out of my head.
[09:21]  * awilkins puts on Tay Tay v.loud
[09:25] <Myrtti_> np. Darude - Sandstorm ♪
[09:29] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:31] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtymNiYlSD4
[09:34] <davmor2> Morning head song today bow wow wow I want Cnady no idea where that got dredged up from but added to the list \o/
[09:34] <davmor2> Candy even
[10:05] <TwistedLucidity> Well that's weird. The first window of a byobu session connected from cywin won't accept Shift-Fn etc; and the Fn keys don't work at all from mRemoteNG.
[10:05] <TwistedLucidity> I blame Windows.
[10:05] <zmoylan-pi> well windows and function keys are weird now as some laptops think that function keys are for using browser and changing the volume...
[10:06] <TwistedLucidity> That's more a fault of the OEMs
[10:06] <TwistedLucidity> When I demove byobu the guy using the Mac had loads of trouble with the key-combos.
[10:06] <zmoylan-pi> true but ms could say stop that silliness if they weren't obsessed with adding more keys to keyboard with windows logo on it
[10:08] <Myrtti_> in case someone is looking into buying stylish mens flight socks, Nabee has a -50% sale on mens' sizes. http://nabeesocks.com/collections/mens?mc_cid=9f192b77a2&mc_eid=6b32bf68c6
[10:08] <TwistedLucidity> Are those really compression hose?
[10:09] <Myrtti_> the markings on my legs after wearing them say yes
[10:09] <Myrtti_> (I've used them for years)
[10:09] <TwistedLucidity> Ah, it only says that on the front page
[10:10] <TwistedLucidity> Meh, I get up and walk around. I do have Falke compression socks for the m'cycle though
[10:11] <Myrtti_> I've got elevated risk for DVI so I have ten pairs in my sock drawer and only some single pairs of woollen and normal bamboo socks
[10:11] <TwistedLucidity> Practice your handstands in th aisle!
[10:13] <Myrtti_> I wear them all the time...
[10:14] <arsenip> have to say i have a pile of compression socks at home
[10:14] <arsenip> from flying lots, and never wearing them.
[10:16] <zmoylan-pi> just remember NOT to use them as disguise if robbing a post office :-p
[10:17] <Myrtti_> kek
[10:42] <TwistedLucidity> Hmm...when I fire eth1, I lose DNS on eth0. Odd.
[10:43] <TwistedLucidity> "fire up"
[10:48] <foobarry> whats the deal with flash now using firefox?
[10:48] <foobarry> is there a way to get it up to date and working ?
[10:49] <foobarry> it complains all the time now
[10:49] <penguin42> the update that came out a couple of days ago should be fine
[10:49] <foobarry> flash update or firefox?
[10:49] <penguin42> flash
[10:49] <foobarry> thx
[10:50] <penguin42> but for goodness sake - always run all your updates!
[10:50] <foobarry> The following packages will be upgraded: firefox firefox-locale-en flashplugin-installer gimp-gmic google-chrome-stable libmysqlclient18 linux-generic
[10:51] <foobarry> cool. tried a couple days ago and wasn't there
[10:51] <foobarry> thx
[10:54] <TwistedLucidity> Huzzah! DNS works, now I just have a routing problem...
[10:55] <TwistedLucidity> I've had continual issues with Flash over the last few weeks. Keep getting whinges that "flashplugin-installer" has permanent failures.
[10:55] <TwistedLucidity> It needs to die. And die now.
[10:56] <penguin42> yes a couple of cases where I've had to rerun the flashplugin-installer - I think it downloads from archives.canonical.om and occasionally has problems on it
[11:01] <TwistedLucidity> And now DNS is goosed again. I hate networking.
[11:08] <davmor2> TwistedLucidity: will you leave poor DNS alone, the poor Girl, Weird name though ;)
[11:09]  * knightwise conforts DNS with coffee and a cookie ... there there poor DNS...
[11:09] <knightwise> The nerve some people have ! Namecalling a Nameserver..
[11:11] <davmor2> knightwise: sounds welsh all consonants and no vowels
[11:13] <andrewebdev> clear
[11:13] <andrewebdev> oops
[11:13] <andrewebdev> forgot I'm not in a terminal there
[11:14] <davmor2> D'oh
[11:15] <foobarry> /clear
[11:16]  * knightwise puts back the defibrilator pads ... :(
[11:16] <bigcalm> cls
[11:17]  * zmoylan-pi hands knightwise the overcharged cattle prod...
[11:18] <davmor2> No command 'cls' found, but there are 20 similar ones
[11:18] <davmor2> cls: command not found
 about 25 times does the trick :-)
[11:19] <penguin42> ctrl-l
[11:19] <davmor2> reset
[11:32] <knightwise> Offers davmor2 the kaddleprod .. wantit ?
[11:34] <davmor2> knightwise: I already have one :D
[11:42] <popey> knightwise: which microsoft surface did you have ubuntu on? and is it reliable / decent battery life / keyboard just work etc?
[11:48] <knightwise> popey: i installed it on the surface pro 1 , everything including the keyboard worked out fo the box
[11:49] <knightwise> but the wifi was not very reliable. sometimes I had speeddrops :(
[11:49] <knightwise> but for the rest batterly life and everything is a-ok
[11:49] <zmoylan-pi> didn't you mention a problem with suspend?
[11:52] <knightwise> Suspend was ok
[11:53] <andrewebdev> sigh, for some reason Chrome browser is broken today. Completely crashes ubuntu, can't even ctrl-alt-f1
[11:54] <penguin42> andrewebdev: Have you done any graphics driver updates?
[11:55] <andrewebdev> nope, just ran my ubuntu updates as usual
[11:55] <awilkins> Some el-cheapo Dell android tabs, might make a good experimentation platform : http://outlet.euro.dell.com/Online/InventorySearch.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdfh1&l=en&s=dfh&brandid=8&dgc=BA&cid=285804&lid=5512262&acd=25789212634496260
[11:56] <awilkins> Wowzer, include ones with the LTE chipset for £75
[11:56] <penguin42> awilkins: The intel tablets vary a bit in how fiddleable with they are
[11:57] <penguin42> awilkins: I know there is someone who got it working on the next gen Dell Venue 8's
[11:57] <penguin42> ^it^Fedora
[11:59] <andrewebdev> although it must be a graphical issue because chrome has multiple graphics glitches, right before it crashes. like black menus (literally just a black box)
[12:00] <awilkins> andrewebdev, Is it because of WEbGL rendering?
[12:00] <awilkins> Which GPU / drivers are you on?
[12:10] <popey> awilkins: yeah, looking for something cheap / 2nd hand
[12:10] <popey> blimey, those are cheap
[12:12] <popey> ugh Intel HD Graphics (Imagination PowerVR G6400)
[12:12] <penguin42> yeh
[12:28] <mappps> gah
[12:28] <mappps> enquired about an apartment yesterday and asked for a viewing
[12:28] <mappps> gone today after she said we could view it later
[12:29] <mappps> hate moving..hate flats
[12:29] <mappps> much preferred my own house;/
[12:50] <foobarry> on 12.04, if i have linux-headers-generic-lts-raring and saucy and trusty, can i remove the raring meta package?
[12:50] <foobarry> seems OK
[12:50] <foobarry> ..
[13:19] <davmor2> foobarry: should be fine, in theory it would be like removing a previous kernel iirc
[13:19] <foobarry> of which if have about 100
[13:19] <foobarry> autoremove hasn't been keeping up
[13:20] <davmor2> foobarry: autoremove never removed old kernels till 14.04 iirc
[13:20] <foobarry> orly?
[13:21] <davmor2> foobarry: you would have to remove the main kernel package for each and then autoremove should clear it iirc
[14:22] <foobarry> email from caonical "Upcomming Events" tut tut
[14:23] <popey> oh jeez
[14:29] <bashrc_> anything exciting?
[14:30] <foobarry> nothing local
[14:30] <foobarry> containercon
[14:31] <foobarry> turns out its a tupperware party
[14:32] <bashrc_> heh
[14:39] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: That's because they know you are super excited to know what's happening. Tell all your friends!
[14:40]  * TwistedLucidity spent a large part of yesterday un-subing from various spam-lists I am certain I never sub'ed to.
[17:14] <diddledan> evening
[18:53]  * diddledan watching mr robot
[19:20] <mappps> hmm
[19:20] <mappps> what site to look for to find a guide ..for a whole day
[19:20] <mappps> escorts brings up different;p
[19:22] <diddledan> lmao
[19:22] <mappps> i want a guide for 3-5 days in kiev
[19:22] <mappps> average wage like $240/month so
[19:22] <diddledan> mappps: an escort might guide you in something
[19:22] <mappps> i figure even $50  day would be good for them?
[19:23] <mappps> dont wanna get stuck going to tourist only places
[19:28] <diddledan> mr robot is awesome
[19:29] <diddledan> it's dark and yet somehow hopeful
[19:30] <diddledan> there's a new episode airing today according to my scheduler, so that'll download later I guess
[19:41] <DJones> mappps: Just stand in the middle of red square and shout down with putin, I'm sure you'll see parts of russia that aren;t on the tourist track
[19:42] <mappps> heh
[19:42] <mappps> im going ukraine not russia
[19:42] <mappps> ;p
[19:42] <mappps> diddledan,  the story line is kinda odd at times.no?
[19:42] <DJones> Ah well, shout "up with putin" in ukraine then
[19:58] <diddledan> DJones: up the british monarchy. <-- and up yours
[20:07] <Laney> up the bracket
[20:09] <zmoylan-pi> up the dubs! :-p
[20:09]  * diddledan rubs a dub
[20:09] <diddledan> rub a dub dub
[20:18]  * DJones would rub a duck, but the dogs running round with it
[20:18]  * zmoylan-pi passes over my rubber duck
[20:32] <penguin42> mappps: Ask a taxi driver?
[20:35] <diddledan> surely those escorts he googled will be suitable, no?
[20:36] <diddledan> nothing like a local chick that you're paying for sex with to show you the town
[20:49] <daftykins> diddledan: your... scheduler? :>
[20:51] <diddledan> daftykins: it tells when things are due to air for the first time. then it sneakily goes and downloads a copy
[20:52] <diddledan> it's really quite a norty program
[20:58] <daftykins> tsk tsk
[20:58] <daftykins> i have a you know what client that watches a private RSS feed to do the same
[20:58] <diddledan> I know, I've told it off several times but it refuses to not download copies
[20:59] <daftykins> see that odd story claiming some co. asked google to takedown 127.0.0.1:4000 for having a copy of Jurassic World? :>
[21:00] <diddledan> hmm, nope
[21:00] <diddledan> lol
[21:09] <zmoylan-pi> poor universal
[21:09] <zmoylan-pi> trying to catch up with sony
[21:41] <diddledan> why is it that when you decide to watch netflix you, instead of actually watching anything, just scroll through endlessly and then give up?
[21:53]  * diddledan sings "scrollin' scrollin' scrollin'. keep them thumbnails movin'. netflix!"
[21:54] <zmoylan-pi> confucious say man with one book knows what to read ban with huge library can never decide
[21:54] <zmoylan-pi> *man with huge
[21:54] <diddledan> man with huge!?!
[21:54] <diddledan> lucky fella
[21:57] <diddledan> this one sounds fun: cybergeddon
[21:58] <diddledan> low-budget hacker movies ftw
[21:58] <diddledan> let's see just how wacky they idea of hacking is
[21:58] <zmoylan-pi> favourite hacker movies.. 1) malcolm 2) hackers...
[21:59] <diddledan> hackers is so terrible it's awesome
[21:59] <zmoylan-pi> and hackers is only there for great sound track
[21:59] <zmoylan-pi> malcolm has better sound track
[21:59] <diddledan> hackers has gone from the worst depiction to absolutely epic
[22:00] <diddledan> I don't think I've seen malcolm
[22:00] <zmoylan-pi> it's a great hacker movie with no computers whatsoever
[22:00] <diddledan> lol
[22:00] <diddledan> well that's not fun then
[22:01] <zmoylan-pi> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091464/ trust me you'll love it
[22:01] <zmoylan-pi> a robbery committed by drones
[22:01] <zmoylan-pi> if you don't fall out of your chair laughing i'll owe you €1
[22:02] <diddledan> omg. that's a hell of a wager
[22:02] <zmoylan-pi> i feel safe :-)
[23:34] <diddledan> I wonder what a spoof movie of the fifth element would be like with the title "the fifth elephant"
[23:38] <penguin42> you mean Fifth element wasn't a spoof?
[23:38] <diddledan> well I suppose it used to be, but it's transcended into folklore now
[23:39] <diddledan> it's always fun to see bruce's willi doing something fun
[23:39] <diddledan> hmm, double "fun"
[23:39] <diddledan> replace the second "fun" with "silly"
[23:39] <diddledan> that works
[23:45] <diddledan> I wonder if that means I'm in america? netflix is letting me play the expendables 3