[00:00] <ki7mt> bekks, No, clang is options for the most part.
[00:00] <ki7mt> optional
[00:01] <bekks> So what is llvm/clang actually for?
[00:01] <ki7mt> But it's error reporting / debugging capabilities are ( IMHO ) a bit better that g++
[00:01] <MightyKiko> My network state that "Wired Unplugged". But my Network Card have Green light blinking. How will I know if I have problem with my NetworkCard or something else?
[00:02] <mgolisch> it can probably make use of the optimisations llvm provides too
[00:02] <mgolisch> even though that part is probably limited due to the static/compiled nature of the language
[00:02] <ki7mt> bekks, Basically, it's a C/C++/Objective-C compiler that is a bit faster in some circumstances, and has better error reporting.
[00:04] <bekks> Does it produce "faster code" with comparable settings?
[00:04] <ki7mt> bekks, Im not going there :-) .. wars have been waged over that question :-)
[00:04] <bekks> ki7mt: :D
[00:05] <bekks> OK, so I'll just note them as "hype" until the ubuntu repo patches are going to be compiled with'em :)
[00:05] <mcgiwer> @ki7mt: where could I send you the code with I'm trying to compile (and getting issues with) ?
[00:06] <mcgiwer> @ki7mt: it's not one file and I would need to send you it compressed
[00:06] <ki7mt> mcgiwer, Not offense mate, but, I don't accept code from folks I don't know well. Are you following a How-Too from somewhere?
[00:06] <MightyKiko> My network state that "Wired Unplugged". But my Network Card have Green light blinking. How will I know if I have problem with my NetworkCard or something else?
[00:07] <ki7mt> bekks, Yeah, that may take a while before that happens :-)
[00:07] <mcgiwer> @ki7mt: yes, I follow it from README and it shoudn't be there any issues with it
[00:10] <mcgiwer> @ki7mt: ah... and I had discovered one more small compiler bug: while compilation it writes that he cannot find the libraries libopcodes-2.24-system.so and libbfd-2.24.so, even if the libraries are there, but in their newer versions (-2.25-). I tryed to link them, but it didn't helped much
[00:11] <mcgiwer> ^libbfd-2.24-system.so
[00:16] <ki7mt> mcgiwer, well, gcc doesn't go and look for that library, something else is linked to that lib. I would not suggest linking those libs though as that could casue issues elsewhere. g++ and binutils is looking like possible culprits here. What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[00:17] <mikynt> ciao
[00:17] <capitan_skyhawk> help
[00:17] <capitan_skyhawk> Oops
[00:17] <mikynt> sera a tutti
[00:18] <vlt> !it | mikynt
[00:21] <capitan_skyhawk> I've tried the online website for Virt, but can't find the information I need -- is there any better source of information?
[00:22] <ki7mt> capitan_skyhawk, what info is it your looking for and what source did you try already?
[00:23] <mcgiwer> @ki7mt: 14.10
[00:23] <capitan_skyhawk> I tried a little bit of googling and https://virt-manager.org/faq/ -- just looking on information about adding Filesystem hardware
[00:24] <ki7mt> mcgiwer, Ok, and Im guessing your trying to compile gcc ?
[00:24] <mcgiwer> @ki7mt: no, I try to compile anope
[00:26] <MotiveGFX> What are ubuntu
[00:26] <MotiveGFX> Is linux are ubuntu?
[00:27] <capitan_skyhawk> linux are ubuntu!
[00:27] <Guest88736> Anyone using a rasberry pi 2?
[00:27] <ki7mt> mcgiwer, Ah, ok .. I dont know much bout the build process for it though. You may have better sucess in their Forums / IRC
[00:27] <MightyKiko> how will I know if I have problem with my NETWORK CARD? because my network indicate that "Wired Unplugged"
[00:28] <ki7mt> mcgiwer, From what you've posted, you have an issue with the CXXC compiler and that application, and, something strange going on with Libs, which I don't know what that could be either.
[00:28] <mcgiwer> @ki7mt: I already did that and they tell that it's ra compiler related issue
[00:35] <ki7mt> mcgiwer, FWIW, I just followed th Anope instructions, and it completed though $(MAKE) without error. All I cna think is you either have missing deps, or what I stated earlier about gcc/g++ version issues.
[00:39] <esr_> :)
[00:39] <svetlana> Argh. mcgiwer should have been pointed to #anope at irc.anope.org.
[00:56] <MotiveGFX> ubuntu bununtu
[00:57] <esr_> cubuntu
[01:12] <SuperFAM> hello
[01:13] <Kully3xf> hello
[01:14] <OhYash> Hello
[01:14] <Kully3xf> Hello
[01:15] <reisio> HEllo
[01:15] <Bashing-om> SuperFAM: Ask your question to the channel .
[01:16] <Kully3xf> I think he just wanted to say hi
[01:16] <reisio> Kully3xf: yeah but he should've _asked_ 'hi?'
[01:17] <OhYash> He wanted to extend the 'hi' xD
[01:17] <SuperFAM> oh hey
[01:18] <SuperFAM> sorry i totally spaced
[01:18] <SuperFAM> was wondering, is there a crash course on ubuntu for stuff like useful kb shortcuts
[01:18] <OhYash> Oh, bq joined a minute ago.. Hey bq, hows your phone making going on?
[01:18] <OhYash> Long press the 'start' key, there you get the kb shortcuts
[01:19] <reisio> Spaced, okay series
[01:20] <SuperFAM> yeap just tried it! thanks a lot
[01:21] <SuperFAM> thats all i needed
[01:22] <Bashing-om> SuperFAM: Hang in here, as a new user you might be amazed at what you pick up here on this channel .
[01:47] <Stuxweb> ki7mt: I figured out a way around my problem. I forgot that you can open a file using any syntax highlighting you wish. You do "nano -Y <nanorc file name> <file>"
[01:47] <reisio> what problem?
[01:47] <Stuxweb> so I can simply do "nano -Y conf /etc/ssh/sshd_config" to open it using syntax highlighting. I could also change the file name to have a .conf or something else and tell sshd what the new file is but I think using nano is easier and safer.
[01:48] <Stuxweb> The fact that nano only does syntax highlighting based off of file names and not file types
[01:48] <reisio> ah, course
[01:48] <Stuxweb> so even though sshd_config is plain text nano won't automatically highlight it unless it has a certain file name
[01:48] <reisio> too bad it doesn't parse formats
[01:49] <Stuxweb> yeah I know
[01:49] <reisio> but nano was always a little... sparse :)
[01:49] <Stuxweb> I wish it did, would be much easier
[01:49] <Stuxweb> haha
[01:49] <reisio> is joe not also a pico style but with more features?
[01:49] <Stuxweb> I've been using it being a Linux newbie it's much easier than vi but my experience is rapidly expanding and I may soon outgrow it
[01:50] <Stuxweb> For example I can't easily copy individual lines to the copy buffer or do a "select all" command.
[01:51] <Stuxweb> This is in the context of ubuntu server and doing everything on a remote ssh terminal
[01:52] <reisio> yeah you might check the other pico style editors
[01:52] <reisio> they're all really similar in how they work
[01:52] <reisio> but some are more mature
[01:52] <somsip> Stuxweb: not wanting to start a 'mine is better than yours' thing, but it is worth persevering with vi if you do much editing over ssh. A couple of weeks and you should be comfy with it
[01:52] <reisio> vi-m, that is :p
[01:52] <reisio> 'vimtutor' is handy
[01:52] <Stuxweb> You're probably right
[01:52] <Stuxweb> like I said I starting using nano becaue I was/am a newbie and it was easier than vi
[01:53] <reisio> yup, it's straightforward
[01:53] <Stuxweb> but that may change very soon since I am just starting to run into snags with nano
[01:53] <somsip> Stuxweb: perfectly understandable.
[01:54] <reisio> obligatronic: http://mrozekma.com/editor-learning-curve.png
[01:54] <Stuxweb> lmao
[01:54] <Stuxweb> I'd say those graphs are pretty accurate
[01:54] <Stuxweb> especially emcas
[01:54] <Stuxweb> emacs*
[01:55] <reisio> yeah, they really are :p
[01:55] <reisio> lot of truth in comedy
[02:01] <MightyKiko> I need HELP!!!! pastebin.com/6Pj90JVS
[02:02] <MightyKiko> please check what went wrong in my NETWORK.. pastebin.com/6Pj90JVS
[02:03] <Kully3xf> MightyKiko: sudo dhclient eth0
[02:04] <Kully3xf> what happens
[02:08] <MightyKiko> @kully3xf RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address
[02:08] <Kully3xf> ifconfig
[02:10] <MightyKiko_> ifconfig lo link encap:local loopback
[02:12] <MightyKiko> kully3xf can we have a 1 on 1 chat? i really need help and i need to resolve my prob ASAP :(
[02:16] <Kully3xf> 1 on 1 will have no further help than here. I'm at work
[02:19] <MightyKiko> kully3xf, have you check my pastebin? what do you think?
[02:19] <OerHeks> MightyKiko, check your cable or even bettern replace it, restart router ..
[02:21] <MightyKiko> OerHeks, i have tried my cable with other PC and it's fine.
[02:21] <AndroidHacker> is there a way to "ban" a specific package from being installed, say Nautilus
[02:21] <AndroidHacker> ?
[02:22] <AndroidHacker> would having it uninstalled and locking the version from synaptic work?
[02:22] <OerHeks> maybe pinning is possible, keep uninstalled
[02:22] <OerHeks> !pinning
[02:23] <Kully3xf> MightyKiko: what happens if you ping your router
[02:24] <MightyKiko> Kully3xf, how to ping my router? sorry if im too noob :D
[02:24] <AndroidHacker> OerHeks, ill check it out thanks
[02:26] <MightyKiko> how to ping my router?
[02:26] <somsip> Kully3xf: 'ping {ip address}'
[02:27] <Kully3xf> MightyKiko: try ifconfig eth0 up
[02:27] <Kully3xf> might need sudo
[02:28] <CB6> hello, is there a way to easily change the icon size when viewing a window in Ubuntu desktop? I only see list view and grid. There's no evident option to adjust icon/shortcut size in folders.
[02:29] <CB6> NVM just guessed if you did the ctrl scroll function it works like font
[02:30] <schlerp> on the desktop you can also right click and icon and select resize if you wanted to change desktop icon sizes
[02:33] <schlerp> with the ubuntu 15.10 desktop next images how can you log in to the live cd?
[02:33] <AndroidHacker> ?
[02:34] <MightyKiko> Kindly check what went wrong with my network pastebin.com/6Pj90JVS
[02:36] <cint98> guys im pretty brand new to ubuntu and i need a little help
[02:36] <cint98> im trying to run this -> https://github.com/richmt/BrainWallet-Scanner
[02:36] <cint98> but not sure how to run it
[02:37] <cint98> halp plz ->btc to someone that successfully helps
[02:40] <somsip> cint98: contact the github repo owner for support on non-official packages
[02:41] <cint98> ive pulled the files
[02:41] <cint98> not sure how to makefile
[02:41] <cint98> so i can run it
[02:41] <notaeon> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[02:42] <somsip> cint98: told you - you get support for non-official packages from the author of those packages. It's not supported here
[02:42] <notaeon> cint98: have you read that?
[02:43] <cint98> i just had a read
[02:43] <cint98> so confuse
[02:44] <notaeon> cint98: have you got all the files in a folder?
[02:44] <cint98> isnt it already setup? cant i just go sudo make makefile
[02:44] <cint98> yes
[02:44] <notaeon> cint98: cd into that folder, then try running make
[02:45] <cint98> ok give me a sec, i have tried that but it failed, ill tell u why it failed in a sec
[02:46] <cint98> ok
[02:46] <cint98> it says no targets specified
[02:47] <notaeon> cint98: run ./configure ?
[02:49] <OerHeks> Isn't that software to hack unsecure bitcoin wallets ?
[02:49] <cint98> i did ./configure it says no such file or directory
[02:49] <cint98> notaeon
[02:49] <cint98> first day on ubuntu sorry
[02:51] <reisio> didn't realize there was such a thing as a secure bitcoin :p
[02:51] <notaeon> cint98: it's ok, honestly i'm just guessing here on how to help you
[02:51] <cint98> its for a test for a class im in
[02:51] <cint98> ok
[02:51] <cint98> damn i thought it was simple
[02:51] <LarryB> Good Evening all
[02:52] <cint98> someone please help running this on ubuntu: https://github.com/richmt/BrainWallet-Scanner   - first day on ubuntu :(
[02:53] <cint98> ok now im getting javac not found, help
[02:53] <OerHeks> cint98, we are not here to do your homework, and help with software to hack unsecure bitcoin wallets is beyond the scope of this channel
[02:53] <LarryB> hello OerHeks
[02:54] <somsip> LarryB: do you have a support question?
[02:54] <LarryB> quick question. (well, 2)
[02:54] <LarryB> 1. is it ethical
[02:54] <LarryB> and #2, if I found a website I want to grab adn downlaod for future review ihow is the best wway?
[02:54] <cint98> im not asking anyone to help any of that, im just learning ubuntu. and im running into problems so im asking them here
[02:54] <cint98> whats javac: command not found
[02:55] <LarryB> cint98, it say JAVA BASED.
[02:55] <LarryB> do you have linuix/JAVA installed?
[02:55] <cint98> no
[02:55] <LarryB> you'll need to find out how to get java installed
[02:55] <LarryB> Im neo to ubuntu
[02:55] <cint98> see now im learning
[02:55] <cint98> thanks
[02:55] <LarryB> java.com may have some assitance
[02:55] <MightyKiko> kindly check what went wrong with my network http://pastebin.com/6Pj90JVS
[02:56] <cint98> ok wait i have java
[02:56] <cint98> it says
[02:58] <OerHeks> MightyKiko, what have you tried sofar?
[03:00] <MightyKiko> oerHeks, all i did was to check my wiring.. i tried my cable with other PC and i got a connection
[03:01] <MightyKiko> when i ping my router.. i got unreachable response
[03:01] <MightyKiko> i don't know much. and i don't know if my network card have a problem or if it is system issues
[03:02] <OerHeks> try in terminal: " sudo service networking enable "
[03:02] <OerHeks> or restart your router, sometimes solves mistery comnnection issues
[03:02] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:02] <sinthap> goodmorning
[03:03] <lotuspsychje> sinthap: hello mate
[03:03] <sinthap> hello
[03:03] <Xelement> Good morning! :D (It's 11:03 pm here)
[03:05] <MightyKiko> sudo service networking enable = usage: /etc/int.d/networking {Start/Stop}
[03:05] <MightyKiko> OerHeks, sudo service networking enable = usage: /etc/int.d/networking {Start/Stop}
[03:05] <somsip> MightyKiko: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[03:05] <OerHeks> try start
[03:07] <MightyKiko> OerHeks, this what i got "Networking stop/waiting"
[03:08] <OerHeks> sudo service networking start
[03:08] <MightyKiko> somsip 12.04 LTS
[03:09] <MightyKiko> OerHeks, sudo service networking start and the result is "Networking stop/Waiting"
[03:10] <MightyKiko> Somsip, check my pastebin www.http://pastebin.com/6Pj90JVS
[03:29] <reecardo> Trying to avoid rebooting here. My X session needs to be restarted, but my console VTs are hosed by video corruption. The old ctrl+alt+backspace is disabled, so how do I restart X from within X without rebooting?
[03:30] <reecardo> Trick is X has to restart, as the console is unusable with the video corruption...
[03:32] <est31> damn
[03:32] <est31> how can I delete a file named --help from shell?
[03:32] <est31> rm --help doesnt work
[03:33] <reisio> rm -- --help
[03:33] <somsip> est31: try "--help"
[03:33] <reisio> '--' is fairly standard for "hey, there won't be any more parameters, so stop looking for them"
[03:33] <est31> reisio, thanks that did it
[03:33] <est31> "--help" didnt work, was my first try
[03:33] <est31> '--help' didnt work neither
[03:34] <somsip> est31: hmm. fair enough
[03:35] <reisio> find is good for things like that, too, if you don't want to learn something else but already know find
[03:35] <reisio> find . -name '--help'
[03:35] <reisio> find . -name '--help' --delete, etc.
[03:44] <pfifo> reecardo, try logging out
[03:50] <bobo69[TB]> https://youtu.be/UX1JISH-C9E?t=318
[03:50] <MightyKiko> please help me with my Network issue.. check my pastebin http://pastebin.com/6Pj90JVS
[03:50] <bobo69[TB]> anyone here have any exp with selling their souls to satan
[03:50] <bobo69[TB]> ?
[03:50] <bobo69[TB]> the guy seems a little sketchy
[03:50] <bobo69[TB]> im not 100% convinced
[03:57] <aleks_> Hey!
[03:58] <tekdj> SecureCRT not working in Ubuntu 15.10.  Any ideas?  What other apps do users use for SSH GUI?
[03:59] <aleks_> Do you happen to know why my printer prints only half page and then stops responding - happens only with Ubuntu and not with Windows
[04:04] <w30> aleks_, You just now installed Ubuntu? Or,new problem just showed up?
[04:05] <aleks_> The OS is installed a month ago but printer was installed yesterday and problem showed up yesterday
[04:06] <reisio> so it never worked right?
[04:07] <aleks_> No, I reinstalled OS 3-4 times in the past year, I am still Linux newbie and learning. It happens very very often
[04:07] <aleks_> yesterday, too
[04:07] <aleks_> Printer is HP
[04:07] <aleks_> It happened in the past
[04:07] <aleks_> prints half page or so, gets the paper out and stops responding
[04:07] <aleks_> Job shows as pending
[04:08] <aleks_> Printer is like frozen
[04:08] <OerHeks> aleks_, what printer exactly?
[04:08] <aleks_> HP Deskjet 1050A
[04:08] <aleks_> all in one
[04:08] <reisio> I'd guess the wrong driver or configuration
[04:08] <OerHeks> hp should work fine unde linux
[04:09] <reisio> see if hp-test does well
[04:09] <reisio> hp-testpage, even
[04:10] <pokergod> I have multiple kernels installed, what's the proper way to get rid of System.map-3.19.0-18-generic, vmlinuz-3.19.0-18-generic, initrd.img-3.19.0-18-generic, and config-3.19.0-18-generic
[04:11] <OerHeks> pokergod, sudo apt-get autoremove # is a good start
[04:12] <pokergod> nah, it didn't get rid of these..  dpkg -l | grep linux-image , i see them
[04:13] <w30> pokergod, I use the software installer to remove old kernels so they get removed from grub too.
[04:13] <aleks_> @reisio - how do I run this, in Terminal it says n such command
[04:13] <reisio> aleks_: dpkg -l | grep -i hplip
[04:14] <OerHeks> pokergod, install synaptics, detailed softwarecenter and do it manually
[04:16] <pokergod> ah beautiful.. for some reason I was missing synaptic, .. i used to have it (i thought)
[04:16] <w30> pokergod, just pay attention to kernel numbers and don't delete latest one.
[04:16] <aleks_> @reisio, what is the expected result
[04:16] <aleks_> Something happened
[04:17] <aleks_> sorry
[04:17] <aleks_> about the lame questions
[04:17] <reisio> aleks_: something with 'hplip' in it, or nothing
[04:17] <reisio> if former: dpkg -L hplip | grep -i testpage
[04:18] <aleks_> ii  hplip                                       3.14.3-0ubuntu3.2                       amd64        HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP)
[04:18] <aleks_> ii  hplip-data                                  3.14.3-0ubuntu3.2                       all          HP Linux Printing and Imaging - data files
[04:20] <aleks_> @reisio
[04:20] <aleks_> it created some files
[04:20] <aleks_> /usr/share/man/man1/hp-testpage.1.gz
[04:20] <aleks_> /usr/bin/hp-testpage
[04:20] <reisio> then hp-testpage should work
[04:21] <reisio> or you might want to hp-setup and then hp-testpage
[04:21] <Shirakawasuna> Hi! I'm not sure what the best channel to ask this is - I want to provision postres databases for messing around in for analysis/scientific purposes. Security isn't an issue, I just want to be able to easily spawn databases on a server. Is there a software package/framework for doing this?
[04:22] <reisio> /msg alis list *postgresql*
[04:22] <aleks_> @reisio, it says HPLIP is installed without graphical support
[04:22] <aleks_> I'll try testpage
[04:22] <reisio> you probably want graphical support, but you don't need it
[04:23] <aleks_> testpage has been sent to printer
[04:23] <aleks_> @reisio , it printed successfully
[04:24] <reisio> k, try whatever app you were using before again
[04:24] <reisio> the one that failed
[04:24] <aleks_> it was pdf files
[04:24] <aleks_> trying now
[04:25] <reisio> from what, evince?
[04:26] <aleks_> @reisio :  Document Viewer 3.10.3
[04:27] <reisio> sounds like evince
[04:27] <reisio> printing?
[04:27] <aleks_> Yes, evince
[04:27] <aleks_> btw, it printed them now
[04:28] <reisio> same file/s that failed before?
[04:28] <aleks_> yes
[04:28] <reisio> weird
[04:28] <reisio> did I ever tell you the story about printers?
[04:28] <reisio> goes like this: printers suck
[04:28] <reisio> fin
[04:29] <aleks_> but what did you do?
[04:29] <aleks_> :)
[04:31] <aleks_> @reisio:  Thanks a lot !
[04:38] <Xelement> Once upon a time was a printer *looks at clock* *snores* "12:38 pm" :p
[04:41] <Xelement> *prints myself to sleep*
[04:42] <herpderphurr> Hello everyone. I'm reading the docs on GCC's include path. There's a reference to "libdir", but libdir isn't specified. Can I get a hint to what "libdir" is defined as? (GCC doc: https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/cpp/Search-Path.html)
[04:45] <yigal> are any problems fixed here?
[04:45] <amicrawler> hey people how to i save this driver so i dont have to recompile every time i reboot
[04:46] <amicrawler> it is a netgear wifi driver ac600
[04:46] <amicrawler> 8812au
[04:46] <amicrawler> is the driver
[04:46] <herpderphurr> Uhh.... is the driver not supported by default, or what?
[04:46] <amicrawler> i fallowed  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2240631
[04:47] <amicrawler> it is missing something
[04:47] <amicrawler> not sure what
[04:47] <yigal> amicrawler: the only likely reason it's going to fail on a reboot is a new kernel version
[04:47] <amicrawler> does not show on to make a hard link in to the wifi driver
[04:47] <amicrawler> so how can i fix this
[04:48] <amicrawler> so it shows up when i reboot
[04:48] <herpderphurr> You shouldn't have to recompile the driver on reboot. After the "sudo make install" command, the driver is installed to the system (but it might not be loaded into the kernel).
[04:48] <amicrawler> so what do i  do then so it is in the kernal
[04:48] <herpderphurr> On each reboot, the most you should have to run would be "sudo modprobe 8812au" to load the driver.
[04:49] <amicrawler> so what do i do so it happen auto
[04:49] <herpderphurr> I'm not too sure how exactly devices are auto-detected (and their drivers automatically loaded), but you definitely do not need recompilation.
[04:49] <amicrawler> i not sure  what to do
[04:50] <yigal> likely something with /etc/modprobe*
[04:50] <yigal> we want to make sure that the driver loads on boot
[04:50] <amicrawler> so it stayes put on reboot and load up when booting
[04:50] <amicrawler> yes
[04:50] <amicrawler> is there a command for that
[04:51] <herpderphurr> that could be one way. The other way is to add the modprobe command to a /etc/rc* script.
[04:51] <yigal> sudo modprobe 8812au ?
[04:51] <amicrawler> yes
[04:51] <amicrawler> i did that
[04:51] <yigal> amicrawler: that works, or fails?
[04:51] <amicrawler> it shows up now
[04:51] <yigal> ok, good
[04:52] <amicrawler> but need it to boot every time
[04:52] <amicrawler> i compile from src
[04:52] <studio_> I am trying to burn cds using brasero.  It says the cd has burned but when I check the cd is still blank
[04:53] <amicrawler> do i need to make a kernal for it
[04:53] <herpderphurr> no
[04:53] <yigal> amicrawler: no no, just ensure it's in the conf files
[04:53] <herpderphurr> hmmm
[04:53] <amicrawler> i need help with that
[04:54] <herpderphurr> Let me do some internet searching
[04:54] <amicrawler> the folder is in the home dir
[04:54] <amicrawler> i fallowed  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2240631
[04:55] <yigal> amicrawler: have you tried adding the driver to /etc/modules ?
[04:55] <amicrawler> not sure how to
[04:56] <yigal> $editor /etc/modules
[04:56] <amicrawler> can i use gedit
[04:56] <yigal> cool
[04:56] <herpderphurr> you could
[04:57] <yigal> it needs 'sudo' sir
[04:57] <amicrawler> i have loop lp rtc
[04:57] <yigal> amicrawler: right, just ensure that driver, as a first step
[04:58] <amicrawler> do i just add 8812au
[04:58] <amicrawler> 1st
[04:58] <yigal> yes
[04:58] <amicrawler> at the top of the list
[04:58] <amicrawler> or does it matter
[04:58] <yigal> amicrawler: 'shouldn't'
[04:59] <yigal> matter
[04:59] <yigal> :)
[04:59] <yigal> amicrawler: it's an initial test
[04:59] <amicrawler> ok rebooting wish me luck
[04:59] <yigal> amicrawler: but it should work
[04:59] <yigal> ok
[04:59] <yigal> cross fingers
[04:59] <yigal> I'
[05:00] <yigal> m a Jewish atheist, #offtopic
[05:00] <vincent42> hi, in ubuntu 14.04, dnsmasq is started by networkmanager : /usr/sbin/dnsmasq --no-resolv --keep-in-foreground --no-hosts --bind-interfaces --pid-file=/run/sendsigs.omit.d/network-manager.dnsmasq.pid --listen-address=127.0.1.1 --conf-file=/var/run/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.conf --cache-size=0 --proxy-dnssec --enable-dbus=org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.dnsmasq --conf-dir=/etc/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.d
[05:00] <vincent42> when I look into /var/run/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.conf, it's empty
[05:01] <yigal> what about /etc/dbus-1/system.d/dnsmasq.conf
[05:01] <vincent42> I'm trying to find what is the actual dns server used
[05:01] <yigal> probably the conf. I pasted to you
[05:01] <vincent42> but I can't find it, it's not declared in dnsmasq config file
[05:02] <yigal> amicrawler: any luck?
[05:02] <amicrawler> cool it work just fine
[05:02] <yigal> sweet!
[05:02] <yigal> rock on :)
[05:02] <vincent42> ygthis is a dbus config file
[05:02] <vincent42> yigal: ^
[05:02] <amicrawler> keep getting this crash report poping up
[05:03] <yigal> vincent42: yes
[05:03] <yigal> vincent42: as far as I know
[05:03] <vincent42> yigal: it doesn't say what is the dns server
[05:03] <amicrawler> is there a way to stop the crash report not to pop up ?
[05:03] <yigal> vincent42: hmm, so what are you looking at 'ps aufx' ?
[05:03] <yigal> amicrawler: oh my, there's a crash report, what does it say?
[05:03] <vincent42> I don't understand, dnsmasq config file is empty and there's no resolv.conf or dns server on its commandline either
[05:04] <amicrawler> keeps telling me there;s a problem
[05:04] <vincent42> yigal: I'm looking for the dns server used by dnsmasq
[05:04] <amicrawler> when i boot to gui
[05:04] <vincent42> the one that was provided by dhcp
[05:05] <amicrawler> wants me to send info to ubuntu all the time
[05:05] <yigal> vincent42: sec, got to log into Github to look at some code
[05:05] <yigal> amicrawler: what is the error report?
[05:05] <amicrawler> i just keep closing it
[05:06] <amicrawler> any ways off to bed
[05:06] <yigal> amicrawler: cool dude, one down a few more to go
[05:06] <amicrawler> going to work early
[05:06] <yigal> we'll get them
[05:06] <yigal> amicrawler: sounds good
[05:06] <amicrawler> big thanx for the help
[05:07] <yigal> cool man, anytime
[05:07] <yigal> vincent42: which deb package are you actually referring to?
[05:07] <vincent42> hmm it's networkmanager
[05:07] <yigal> vincent42: cool
[05:08] <feralHope> hello.
[05:08] <yigal> all I can see is ➜  ~  dpkg -L network-manager | grep -i dh
[05:08] <yigal> /usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-helper
[05:08] <yigal> y
[05:08] <amicrawler> the crash report is doing some thing with cupsd
[05:08] <feralHope> i have what i assume is a shit question.
[05:09] <yigal> amicrawler: interesting, printing stuff derping
[05:09] <amicrawler> not using cups yet
[05:09] <amicrawler> no printer yet
[05:10] <amicrawler> normaly i use a lp6 or lp5
[05:10] <yigal> amicrawler: hmm, we'll look at it when you have the time
[05:10] <yigal> ?
[05:10] <wilee> don't swear this is a worldwide family channel, please.
[05:10] <amicrawler> network printers
[05:10] <yigal> amicrawler: could be
[05:10] <amicrawler> or smb
[05:10] <amicrawler> samba
[05:10] <next_> samba nice
[05:10] <yigal> amicrawler: both shared, but possible
[05:10] <wilee> we're glad to help though, no biggie.
[05:11] <amicrawler> humm any ways that is a diffrent chat
[05:11] <amicrawler> big thanx to all   good night
[05:11] <feralHope> i'm new to linux, and upon my first boot (mate 15.04 x64) i saw an error message that said something about the "acpi probe" failing. what is that? should i care?
[05:11] <yigal> feralHope: it's power management
[05:12] <yigal> feralHope: are you using a laptop?
[05:12] <feralHope> si
[05:12] <yigal> k
[05:12] <wilee> feralHope, In the text while booting, or a popup error?
[05:12] <feralHope> text while booting.
[05:13] <next_> laptop or netbook ?
[05:13] <yigal> feralHope: usually there will be kernel parameters you will need to pass to fully utilize the linux kernel's ability to use the power management of any given hardware
[05:13] <feralHope> laptop
[05:13] <feralHope> ah.
[05:13] <feralHope> so it isn't completely detrimental?
[05:14] <yigal> feralHope: you will want to have acpi utilized, in general, for a laptop
[05:14] <wilee> feralHope, You fully updated?
[05:14] <feralHope> it should be stated that i booted from the cd, as a trial to ensure that all of my hardware was supported.
[05:14] <feralHope> so perhaps that has something to do with it?
[05:14] <wilee> feralHope, This an install or live?
[05:15] <feralHope> live
[05:15] <yigal> feralHope: in general one can expect some kernel teaking to utilize all of the features of a set of hardware
[05:15] <yigal> s/teaking/tweaking
[05:15] <feralHope> no idea what that entails.
[05:15] <wilee> feralHope, I would just install a live is not updated nor setup for your computer hardware.
[05:15] <feralHope> word.
[05:15] <feralHope> s'what i thought.
[05:16] <feralHope> thanks fr the help, ya'll.
[05:16] <wilee> feralHope, I have rarely tweaked anything in 8 years myself
[05:16] <wilee> kernels etc
[05:21] <hammer> hola
[05:22] <wilee> hammer, welcome to ubuntu's mother ship.
[05:30] <agent_white> Evenin' folks
[05:38] <murat> hi guys
[05:39] <Neroon> Hi! Can someone help with a apt-get problem? I've got a broken package and can't remove or  update it or install any other package
[05:40] <wileee> Neroon, Pastebin the apt-get command that shows this, must be an update, all the text.
[05:40] <wileee> !pastebin | Neroon
[05:40] <Neroon> wileee: so you mean apt-get update?
[05:41] <wileee> Neroon, Sure, is it showing on updates, or when you try to install a package, just being sure on this.
[05:43] <newUbuntu> hey wileee, how do I set "nomodeset" parameter in this boot menu of Ubuntu 14.04 LTS: http://postimg.org/image/t29cn0ew5/ ?
[05:43] <Neroon> wileee: it shows, wheter i try to repair the package (tzdata) or remove it, or remove, install or update any other package.
[05:43] <wileee> !nomodeset | newUbuntu
[05:44] <newUbuntu> no wileee, what I meant was there is no f6 option to enter commands
[05:44] <wileee> Neroon, Cool, I have to take off for a few, however all that info you describe in a pastebin goes a loong way in analyzing is all.
[05:45] <wileee> newUbuntu, What release is this?
[05:46] <Neroon> wileee: k, just did an update with apt-get, doesn't show anything, except a few missing sources
[05:46] <wileee> newUbuntu, I wonder if your keyboard is dead there
[05:47] <wileee> Neroon, Again no prof leaves us dead in the water, we want proof. ;)
[05:47] <Neroon> wileee: just a sec :-)
[05:48] <wileee> Neroon, For the channel though I have to leave now for a little while is all.
[05:49] <Neroon> wileee: sure, thanks for now
[05:51] <CQ> hello.. is there a way to figure out why a package was installed? I want to see why mysql is on my system... did I install it, or was it a dependency of something?
[05:52] <somsip> CQ: you could check /var/log/apt/history for something?
[05:52] <somsip> history.log
[05:52] <CQ> somsip: if it was installed, it was a loooong time ago probably, but I'll look...
[05:53] <somsip> CQ: you should have 10 logs in there if you want to gunzip the oldest. Mine go back a year or so, so you might have something
[05:53] <CQ> somsip they are all updates already
[05:54] <somsip> CQ you could run the apt-* that shows deps but I don't recall what it is right now...
[05:55] <somsip> apt-cahe rdepends mysql (possibly)
[05:55] <somsip> apt-cache
[05:57] <r0th3d> fuck
[05:58] <svetlana> Language. What is the problem?
[05:58] <r0th3d> exit
[05:59] <CQ> somsip: thanks... apt-cache rdepends --installed mysql-common is what I needed
[05:59] <somsip> CQ: np
[05:59] <CQ> seems I installed it manually at some point, it seems to be installed standalone
[06:00] <VFDPrim> so any one know have any ideas how to fix the fallowing?... error interpreting jpeg image file (improper call to jpeg library in state 200)
[06:00] <somsip> VFDPrim: In what situation?
[06:01] <Pakiko> how will I know if my Network Card is not working?? I don't have connection. my cable is okay.
[06:01] <VFDPrim> all where coppied from comp or another thumb drive to the current one its on
[06:01] <somsip> VFDPrim: when you're viewing images? Doing something else to them? What program is giving that error?
[06:01] <VFDPrim> somsip trying to view an imige from a thumb drive
[06:02] <CQ> ah, akonadi-backend-mysql wanted it... if I remove it it switches to the sqlite backend. perfect.
[06:02] <somsip> CQ: mystery solved
[06:03] <VFDPrim> not sure what program ubuntu is trying to use to open them so i guessing imige viewer
[06:03] <VFDPrim> yes its imige viewer
[06:04] <freezer> can ubuntu run a spaceship?
[06:05] <somsip> VFDPrim: google searches for that error suggest an incomplete file was transferred.
[06:05] <VFDPrim> sys there are 0 bytes so yea the stupid tranfer bar must have a glitch
[06:06] <CQ> freezer: I think so, check https://kerbalspaceprogram.com/
[06:06] <VFDPrim> :( this stinks thanks guys
[06:07] <Neroon> If anyone could help with an apt-get problem, here are the apt-get command results: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11923800/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11923775/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11923795/
[06:07] <freezer> CQ, i mean for real
[06:07] <Cajuntechie>  /j #socialism
[06:07] <CQ> freezer: then define what you mean by "run"
[06:08] <somsip> !ot | freezer
[06:08] <somsip> freezer: so take the question to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:08] <freezer> CQ, the whole OS, drivers for the rocket launchers etc
[06:08] <somsip> freezer: not hear, thank you
[06:08] <somsip> *here
[06:10] <slicepaperwords> why does the GUI internet display get disabled when you use /etc/network/interfaces?
[06:12] <OerHeks> slicepaperwords, there can be one in control.
[06:24] <samurai> ecco fatto
[06:24] <OerHeks> !it
[06:26] <samurai> ùescuseme
[06:27] <Neroon> no apt-get gurus here? ;-)
[06:29] <OerHeks> Neroon, haven't seen a question yet.
[06:30] <Neroon> OerHeks: sorry, posted it a few mins ago. Well, got a broken package (tzdata) can't repair, remove, update it. Nor any other package.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11923800/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11923775/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11923795/
[06:34] <OerHeks> Neroon, you can try sudo  dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[06:35] <OerHeks> not sure its tzdata or just the data needs fixing
[06:35] <Neroon> OerHeks: just a sec
[06:36] <Neroon> OerHeks: nope, no change
[06:37] <manuel_> Hi. I'm trying to set up Ubuntu 15.04 (Gnome) for a visually impaired person and I'm wondering how could I make mp3 autoplay when inserting a usb that contains nothing but mp3 files. Is there a way to achieve this? Thanks in advance :)
[06:37] <OerHeks> Neroon, So when did this occur?
[06:37] <bala-de-arno> my dialerpad is showing no network in ubuntu touch
[06:38] <Neroon> OerHeks: that's a good question. Might be a few weeks. But I didn't care about one broken package at the time. Was busy, I guess. So today I wanted to do the upgrades and I found it wouldn't let me ;-)
[06:42] <caustic> what would be the best channel to join, or best (any) website where I could learn how to find out what the source address/URL of various frames is?
[06:46] <somsip> caustic: what browser do you use?
[06:48] <milk__> Hey guys my 2nd monitor is on but is just showing a black picture. my main monitor is connected to the video card (Amd 280) whereas the 2nd monitor i connected to the motherboards VGA port the VGA port is enabled in the bios so im not sure what is causing it not to be detected
[06:48] <caustic> firefox
[06:49] <somsip> caustic: right click on the iframe and choose 'Inspect Element'. That'll show the src attribute
[06:49] <caustic> I will try, it, ty
[06:50] <Guest64741> > Hey guys my 2nd monitor is on but is just showing a black picture. my main monitor is connected to the video card (Amd 280) whereas the 2nd monitor i connected to the motherboards VGA port the VGA port is enabled in the bios so im not sure what is causing it not to be detected
[06:51] <svetlana> Install arandr, open it, click things through, see if it helps.
[06:53] <x4w3> Good morning, yesterday i found same problem than other user after installed module for usb wifi card = tp-link archer t2uh ac600 and resolution was lshw doesnt show card when lsusb shows it perfectly. jhutchins_wk u notificated that driver was incorrect.
[06:54] <caustic> I'm inspecting the element. I do not see a URL/IP. It might help if I explain what I'm doing. on LinkedIn (and really everywhere) I have dnsmasq using a hosts file that sends ads (ads.doubleclick.com in this case) to my local computer to be swallowed by a pretty picture. This one ad is showing me "unable to connect". I want to find out what address isn't connecting and route it back to my localhost.
[06:55] <somsip> caustic: unless it's served by some JS or something, but this is nothing to do with ubuntu support so that's my last contribution
[06:56] <wafflejock> caustic, you can just check in the network panel in the chrome debug panel for where requests are going and can look for any failed ones in there they'll be red
[06:57] <caustic> thank you, somsip
[07:08] <ubuntzoo> i been trying to reinstall windows for a long time now but im having some trouble im on ubuntu and im finding it imposible to create a bootable usb drive that boots windows can anyone guide me
[07:09] <Neroon> I'd need some  help with an apt-get problem. Here are the apt-get command results: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11923800/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11923775/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11923795/
[07:09] <manuel_> Sorry, connection went down. Please paste me in if there was a reply to my question (usb mp3 autoplay), thanks.
[07:10] <backbox> ..
[07:10] <wileee> ubuntzoo, I use this loader with W7 to W10
[07:10] <wileee> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[07:11] <ubuntzoo> thanks wileee!dont understand what you said on the first comment doe :I thanks for the link doe!
[07:11] <ubuntzoo> im dumb sorry for the dumb comment
[07:12] <ikonia> Neroon: have you swapped repos / added / removed repos
[07:12] <wileee> no problem, carry on
[07:12] <ikonia> Neroon: it looks like you have versions miss-matches
[07:12] <ObrienDave> Neroon, you must preceed the commands with sudo:
[07:12] <Neroon> ikonia: where did you see version miss matches?
[07:12] <Neroon> ObrienDave: I just removed the sudo from the paste, that's all
[07:13] <ikonia> Neroon: in the output of those commands
[07:13] <ubuntzoo> wait wileee i just skimmed the link you gave me does this work with windows iso?
[07:14] <wileee> ubuntzoo, Has for me many times.
[07:14] <ubuntzoo> alright thanks!
[07:15] <Neroon> ikonia: found it, but how do I get an older version, since it says I've got the 2015d but it needs the 2015b?
[07:16] <wileee> ubuntzoo, So if you get winsdows instaled you will booting only windows, be sure to have a live ubuntu disk or usb to repair this.
[07:16] <chris112> hi, can i reduce the lag/timeout when accessing a samba/cifs mount of a server no more present?
[07:16] <ikonia> Neroon: what have you done with the repos ?
[07:17] <ikonia> Neroon: first thig - apt-get update and make sure your cache is current
[07:17] <Neroon> ikonia: nothing that i know of... of the top of my head
[07:17] <Neroon> ikonia: update just gives me http://paste.ubuntu.com/11923775/
[07:17] <ubuntzoo> yeah i know wileee the boot loader for windows is kinda weird but i have a spare usb with ubuntu on it ima install it after i install windows :)
[07:18] <Milky_> Hey guys my 2nd monitor is on but is just showing a black picture. my main monitor is connected to the video card (Amd 280) whereas the 2nd monitor i connected to the motherboards VGA port the VGA port is enabled in the bios so im not sure what is causing it not to be detected
[07:18] <ikonia> whats it http://www.bunkus.org ./ Release
[07:18] <wileee> ubuntzoo, Excellent, that loader allows a lot of other iso's to be added, I use it with about 10 OS's and special apps on it.
[07:18] <ikonia> what is it http://www.bunkus.org ./ Release
[07:19] <ubuntzoo> 10 OS's O_O why do you need 10 OS's lol
[07:20] <ObrienDave> because 9 OSs is just insignificant ;P
[07:20] <ubuntzoo> XD
[07:20] <wileee> ubuntzoo, Some I have multibooted, not all OS's, some are AV for the winders, gparted, and other cool tools.
[07:20] <wileee> lol ObrienDave
[07:21] <trist4n> any idea how to limit the user ids of newly created users? ive tried /etc/login.defs but it doesnt seem to "take"
[07:21] <OerHeks> ikonia, some mkvtool ppa
[07:21] <ubuntzoo> dident understand most of what you said there but ok :I im a ubumtu noob
[07:21] <Milky_> Hey guys my 2nd monitor is on but is just showing a black picture. my main monitor is connected to the video card (Amd 280) whereas the 2nd monitor i connected to the motherboards VGA port the VGA port is enabled in the bios so im not sure what is causing it not to be detected
[07:22] <wileee> ubuntzoo, The only key word is I 've called that multisystem iso loader, a loader
[07:22] <ObrienDave> Milky_, you have not figured this out after THREE nights?
[07:22] <ubuntzoo> >.<oh well i feel dumb
[07:22] <Milky_> Nope i wasnt home last night and i still dont know
[07:22] <OerHeks> Milky_, some motherboards automatic disable onboard when you use the plug in card
[07:23] <wileee> ubuntzoo, nah, it is a slang use.
[07:23] <Milky_> yeah i have reenabled it in the bios
[07:23] <Milky_> it shows grub and the unbuntu logo during boot up
[07:23] <Milky_> moment i get to desktop poof blackness and the main monitor comes to life
[07:26] <Milky_> anyideas?
[07:28] <OerHeks> Milky_, nope, maybe the onboard is an old one ?
[07:29] <Milky_> oerheks , I dont know what you mean?
[07:30] <OerHeks> Milky_, what does lspci say about onboad?
[07:30] <OerHeks> onboard
[07:31] <OerHeks> if you use a restricted driver, and the onboard is not supported ( too old), this is what you get.
[07:31] <Milky_> http://pastebin.com/cKVHjBpS Heres the lspci output
[07:35] <OerHeks> Milky_, hard to say, seems that a restricted driver? disabled the onboard.
[07:35] <Neroon> wileee: hey, you're back. Got time to take a look at the apt-get tzdate (broken) problem?
[07:35] <Milky_> Yeah thats my gpu driver i dont know how to reendable it do you?
[07:36] <Milky_> removing the driver isnt a option as that mucks up my main monitor
[07:36] <wileee> Neroon, Tok a look at it a while back, that is a mess, I figured others better at this.
[07:36] <OerHeks> Milky_, nope, connect both screens to that amd280
[07:37] <Neroon> wileee: k, thanks. I thought so, it's never easy with me ;-)
[07:37] <OerHeks> Milky_, nope, connect both screens to that amd280
[07:37] <OerHeks> ,
[07:37] <Milky_> yeah i wish i could but my 2nd monitor only has vga out and the gpu dosnt have vga in ;?
[07:39] <wawb> I'm using Cinnamon, I've connected to a shared folder on a remote device from the "Network" icon in the file explorer... Where can I see that mount in the file system in a terminal?
[07:39] <AAA__> I went AFK for 20 minutes and return to all windows closed, firefox does not load last session after starting it... how do I resume my work now? Who at ubuntu thopught this is a good idea?
[07:40] <wileee> AAA_, a ready to blame ubuntu huh.
[07:40] <wileee> all*
[07:40] <OerHeks> AAA__, we never gave you permission to walk away for 20 min.
[07:41] <AAA_> wait, now that I run system monitor, suddenly all the windows are back and the firefox window I opened blank disappeatred? I only have ONE desktop...
[07:42]  * wileee walks away
[07:42] <AAA__> Somehow a second desktop is activated, but I can not switch between those two, unless I run task manager...
[07:42] <ObrienDave> *face palms*
[07:45] <VHF21> hello
[07:46] <VHF21> who's here
[07:46] <ObrienDave> 1726 people
[07:46] <VHF21> ds
[07:46] <VHF21> das
[07:46] <VHF21> f
[07:46] <VHF21> asd
[07:46] <VHF21> f
[07:46] <VHF21> asdfasdf
[07:51] <wafflejock> AAA_, the settings for what to show when the browser starts are in the preferences of the browser pretty sure it's up to them what the default config is for that I always turn on the open last tabs option in chrome
[07:51] <wafflejock> AAA_, the weird session thing you're describing I don't know about though
[07:52] <AAA_> wafflejock, the problem is that the computer caused a second instance of logged in desktop somehow and I can't switch between those two... I don't know why of how it opened, I was AFK for 20 minutes... :O
[07:53] <ObrienDave> don't go afk so long ;p
[07:54] <AAA_> ObrienDave, yes, I get it, yes, okay... :D
[07:54] <wafflejock> yeah computer must have been missing you and decided to start up a new session so it'd have something to do :)
[07:55] <ObrienDave> computers are temperamental that way LOL
[07:57] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:58] <AAA_> lordievader, oh, on the goodness of the morning...
[08:05] <Kartagis> hm
[08:06] <Kartagis> openssh-server is installed, netstat -antlp reports port 22 is open, but telnet host 22 from outside just tries.
[08:07] <lordievader> Kartagis: Is port 22 forwarded?
[08:07] <Kartagis> scratch that, I somehow enabled ufw
[08:08] <Kartagis> I now disabled it
[08:08] <Kartagis> I guess ufw blocks port 22 by default
[08:09] <lordievader> Didn't ufw have an allow all in allow all out policy by default? Iptables does, would be strange if ufw didn't.
[08:12] <JustSigh_> Hello
[08:12] <JustSigh_> Is there a way to make the ubuntu dash more responsive?
[08:13] <JustSigh_> i.e when I search for an application and it shows up, I'd like to press enter and have it open immediately instead of continue searching for stuff
[08:13] <Neroon> wileee: fixed it :-)
[08:13] <Kartagis> how do I see current ufw rules?
[08:13] <wileee> Neroon, Good job. ;)
[08:14] <wileee> JustSigh_, It is a general search engine, anything with the letters to some extent shows
[08:14] <JustSigh_> Kartagis, ufw status numbered
[08:15] <JustSigh_> wileee, yeah but when I press enter, it keeps searching for another second
[08:15] <Kartagis> JustSigh_: not status, rules
[08:15] <wileee> JustSigh_, What is your setup, this computer up for this desktop?
[08:15] <wafflejock> JustSigh_, you can turn off the scopes that search the internet
[08:16] <JustSigh_> Kartagis, did you try what I gave you?
[08:16] <wileee> I turned al that off when  I used unity long ago
[08:16] <Kartagis> yeah, it just said status: active
[08:16] <wafflejock> JustSigh_, when you open the dash there's a button for filters or scopes or something where you can uncheck sources you don't care about searching
[08:16] <JustSigh_> Yeah I switched them all off. But it's still kind of slow
[08:16] <wafflejock> JustSigh_, there's also options to disable the blur when showing the dash
[08:16] <Kartagis> JustSigh_: ^
[08:16] <wafflejock> JustSigh_, think that's in unity-tweak tool
[08:18] <JustSigh_> Kartagis, did you type "ufw status numbered" with numbered at the end?
[08:18] <JustSigh_> wafflejock, I think I'm just gonna disable it completely and use something else.
[08:18] <wafflejock> personally switched to Ubuntu Gnome only complaint I really have on here is the notifications but it's being worked on just not out in the current releases of Gnome packaged with Ubuntu
[08:18] <lordievader> Kartagis: If it just says that it is active there aren't any rules in there.
[08:18] <JustSigh_> I tried a bunch of DEs but unity has the best HIDPI support
[08:19] <wafflejock> ah
[08:19] <Kartagis> JustSigh_: yes. I think that means there are no rules, which is weird because ssh port is blocked as soon as I enable it
[08:19] <Kartagis> lordievader: ^
[08:19] <lordievader> Kartagis: Default policy to drop?
[08:19] <lordievader> On input I mean.
[08:20] <Kartagis> lordievader: how do I check that?
[08:20] <lordievader> No idea, haven't used ufw in ages. Glad I got rid of it.
[08:21] <Kartagis> there is a openssh-server in /etc/ufw/applications.d/
[08:21] <Kartagis> but it just says what the port is
[08:22] <CB6> lol where do you get this ubuntu app? hilarious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVMn3xk5mcY
[08:23] <Kartagis> [UFW BLOCK]
[08:23] <Kartagis> this is in /var/log/syslog
[08:24] <Kartagis> CB6: that's cool!
[08:24] <lordievader> Kartagis: Ain't it easier to simply learn iptables?
[08:24] <Kartagis> lordievader: I was just wondering
[08:24] <ShalokShalom> JustSigh_: you try plasma 5 as well ?
[08:25] <ShalokShalom> CB6: take a look into the comments: sudo apt-get install hollywood
[08:25] <CB6> lol
[08:26] <Kartagis> CB6: https://github.com/dustinkirkland/hollywood
[08:26] <Kartagis> the source code is here
[08:27] <Kartagis> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:hollywood/ppa
[08:27] <CB6> ty
[08:29] <Kartagis> hollywood technodrama - 2nd hit
[08:29] <CB6> Are you guys able to get it installed?
[08:29] <barq> !eol
[08:29] <CB6> E: Unable to locate package hollywood
[08:30] <Kartagis> CB6: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:hollywood/ppa
[08:30] <Kartagis> then update, then install
[08:30] <mcgiwer> hello. I still have compilation problems of anope. This time I test it on Ubuntu 14.04. I include the pastebin. It seem it's a internal compiler error
[08:30] <CB6> ah the update may be key there
[08:30] <CB6> I did as you mentioned
[08:31] <Kartagis> mcgiwer: when you say anope, are you talking about IRC services?
[08:32] <mcgiwer> yes.. I had reported it on their irc, but they redirected me here because it's a compiler related issue
[08:33] <Kartagis> mcgiwer: iirc, it was replaced by epona
[08:33] <Kartagis> had been*
[08:33] <wileee> CB6, You are in never never land with support on ppa's.
[08:33] <mcgiwer> you mean that anope has been replaced by it?
[08:33] <Kartagis> or was it the other way around
[08:33] <CB6> haha, seems like it hey?
[08:33] <wileee> ;)
[08:34] <Kartagis> nope, I was wrong
[08:34] <CB6> You guys see MR Robot from today? I am about to watch it in about 15 mins
[08:34] <Kartagis> epona has been replaced by anope
[08:35] <Kartagis> CB6: it's just another "damn society" thing
[08:35] <CB6> pretty much
[08:35] <CB6> It's one of those things that's bizarre but you can't help but to keep watching.
[08:36] <mcgiwer> here is the pastebin of output: http://pastebin.com/mxbgc3vw
[08:36] <mcgiwer> note: I have the cmake and g++, gcc in their actual versions
[08:36] <CB6> Would there be a noticeable difference in video rendering from my AMD X4 920 8GB to my AMD X4 975 with 16GB of ram?
[08:38] <CB6> Noticed for HD video on Ubuntu it does it fine but kind of chokes a bit for about 15 seconds while it's preprocessing
[08:38] <mcgiwer> @Kartagis: any ideas?
[08:38] <treeprogram> how do I check if the last time a file was modified was X or more hours ago? or X or more seconds ago?
[08:38] <CB6> Does the whole fade to black while processing
[08:39] <lordievader> treeprogram: Check the mtime.
[08:39] <barq> How can I upgrade from 13.10 to an LTS distribution?
[08:39] <treeprogram> lordievader: I want to create a bash script that only runs if the last time a log file was modified 1 or more days ago
[08:40] <barq> As in how do I make sure I get LTS and not 15
[08:40] <lordievader> barq: Probably easiest to reinstall Trusty.
[08:40] <wileee> barq, that is long eol, a fresh install will be easier of 14.04
[08:40] <Kartagis> mcgiwer: try make or gmake
[08:41] <Kartagis> why cmake?
[08:41] <Kartagis> what is it anyway?
[08:41] <lordievader> Kartagis: Cmake is default for a lot of things.
[08:41] <Kartagis> mcgiwer: are you doing ./configure?
[08:42] <barq> fresh install is not an option
[08:42] <barq> What happens if I do a dist-upgrade?
[08:42] <CB6> treeprogram couldn't you have a cron job check for that?
[08:43] <Ben64> barq: nothing
[08:43] <mcgiwer> @Kartagis: no because it has been replaced by the ./Config script with does anything and direct calling of ./configure don't work and ask to run the mentioned first script
[08:43] <treeprogram> CB6 no because my computer is not always on, so I can't count it being on when the cronjob runs
[08:43] <Ben64> !eolupgrade | barq
[08:43] <treeprogram> *when the cronjob is scheduled to run
[08:43] <wileee> barq, that is a in release security call. Honestly your are a bit of a ways from doing a successful upgrade if even possible
[08:43] <CB6> Frequency of cron could check pretty often.
[08:44] <Ben64> wileee: whats so hard about going from 13.10 to 14.04
[08:44] <lordievader> mcgiwer: What are you trying to compile?
[08:44] <barq> I updated the sources list and did apt-get update
[08:44] <Ben64> barq: updated how
[08:44] <barq> Deleted contents of sources.list and pasted the 4 urls from the link you posted
[08:44] <wileee> Ben64, Not muxh for a person whom knows how to get rid of the dependencies added not needed as start and asking this last question?
[08:45] <wileee> like ppa's etc
[08:45] <mcgiwer> @lordievader: anope, but I don't get wird crash of g++ instead (see my pastebin)
[08:45] <CB6> Should one run that apt-get remove command with regularity as part of maintenance or does the system do that automatically?
[08:45] <treeprogram> CB6: yes, I will have the cron check often, but I don't want my script to execute regularly, because it's resource expensive
[08:45] <CB6> this is true
[08:45] <Ben64> barq: you used saucy for codename, right
[08:46] <CB6> Are bash commands typically less resource intensive?
[08:46] <CB6> operations even
[08:46] <Ben64> than what
[08:46] <lordievader> !info gcc
[08:47] <lordievader> mcgiwer: Is build-essential installed?
[08:47] <mcgiwer> yes
[08:47] <treeprogram> CB6 the bash script is not my concern. It's the program the bash script executes. I only want the program to execute once a day
[08:49] <barq> Ben64: Yes.
[08:49] <Ben64> barq: then you should be good to continue
[08:49] <lordievader> mcgiwer: Reinstall gcc/g++? Seems like your g++ is broken.
[08:49] <barq> So next I do dist-upgrade?
[08:50] <Ben64> barq: read the page
[08:50] <barq> after updating the update-manager
[08:51] <CB6> treeprogram here's one half of the solution to the string http://askubuntu.com/questions/814/how-to-run-scripts-on-start-up I'm not sure about how to create the condition for if run already though but it should be for the day. Kind of seems like a fun little script
[08:51] <shredding> hey all
[08:51] <stoogenmeyer_> hey guys, I have a script which I want to git pull from a repository, but it will be asked for a username and password. Is there a way to pull with some other credentials kept on file or something?
[08:51] <shredding> i'm moving a very old site from a very old free bsd to ubuntu. on free bsd in some files i have things like "f\xef\xbf\xbdr" (german für) which is displayed with a char-set-mismatch character set in ubuntu (vim and served via nginx).
[08:51] <shredding> Is this a case where you randomly turn different charsets on and off and convert manically around to hope it fits?
[08:51] <Ben64> barq: theres a section called "run the upgrade" with a few commands there, you need to do them in order
[08:51] <somsip> stoogenmeyer_: if you pull from a repo on a server, you will always be storing credentials in plain text somewhere. Best to use a post commit hook from somewhere else
[08:52] <shredding> ... as i understood thats unicode in the original file.
[08:52] <barq> So first I update 13.10 to the newest and then do-release-upgrade upgrades to 14.04?
[08:52] <shredding> and the header claims it to be iso-8859-1
[08:52] <Ben64> barq: pretty much
[08:53] <barq> And it happens that 14.04 is LTS
[08:53] <CB6> treeprogram looks like you're not the first to want this http://askubuntu.com/questions/16160/execute-bash-script-at-startup-but-only-once-a-day
[08:53] <barq> So I don't have to be worried about hopping to 15?
[08:53] <mcgiwer> @lordievader:  it didn't helped
[08:53] <stoogenmeyer_> somsip: I don't mind having the credentials on file there
[08:53] <lordievader> mcgiwer: What does /usr/bin/g++ --version return?
[08:54] <mcgiwer> @lordievader: you mean whole output or just version?
[08:55] <somsip> stoogenmeyer_: http://git-scm.com/docs/git-credential-store
[08:55] <treeprogram> CB6: thanks
[08:55] <somsip> stoogenmeyer_: with links about better ways of doing it on there
[08:55] <stoogenmeyer_> somsip: thanks!
[08:55] <treeprogram> though I'd still like to do it using mtime, as a learning experience
[08:55] <lordievader> mcgiwer: Let's see the whole output, via pastebin.
[08:56] <treeprogram> "find /var/log/outputlog.log -mtime +10s" gives me this error "find: missing argument to `-mtime'
[08:56] <treeprogram> "find /var/log/outputlog.log -mtime +10s" gives me this error "find: missing argument to `-mtime'"
[08:56] <kongthap> when ~/.profile is actually loaded?, when i tried to put some error there, openning terminal nothing show, when using "source ~/.profile" error show
[08:56] <CB6> treeprogram better article on it http://askubuntu.com/questions/163549/how-to-run-a-script-on-each-login-or-once-a-day-if-not-run-that-day-already
[08:57] <treeprogram> CB6: thanks
[08:57] <mcgiwer> @lordievader: http://pastebin.com/Ugsfvz6q
[08:57] <ubyx> .
[08:58] <CB6> Kind of odd Google picks the older articles for most relevant. With Linux that's almost never the case and can cause real issues lol.
[08:59] <wileee> CB6, always know what your reading and doing......period. ;)
[08:59] <CB6> wileee that's what the hollywood script is for lol!
[09:00] <lordievader> mcgiwer: Can you build a simple C++ program with it? Hello world or something.
[09:00] <wileee> CB6, for fun I ran it, nothing I would use, it errored out
[09:00] <wileee> in 14.04 anyway
[09:02] <wileee> used to be a Matrix like screen saver'
[09:02] <CB6> wilee ya it was just a mess for me too. It ran but looked dumb. Says I need a restart
[09:03] <EriC^^> !cmatrix
[09:03] <EriC^^> !info cmatrix
[09:03] <wileee> heh
[09:03] <CB6> lol
[09:04] <CB6> sudo apt-get cmtrix ?
[09:05] <CB6> cmatrix even*
[09:05] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install cmatrix
[09:05] <wileee> I'm not a youngster so I'm happy if I can read the screen at this point
[09:06] <EriC^^> CB6: you want a screensaver of the matrix?
[09:06] <CB6> Just amusing
[09:06] <CB6> why not lol
[09:07] <CB6> I just installed it but that's for terminal screen is it not?
[09:07] <EriC^^> yeah
[09:08] <CB6> I need to learn some shortcuts. In particular how the heck to paste in code without having to right click in terminal. That's annoying
[09:08] <EriC^^> CB6: shift+insert
[09:09] <CB6> nice
[09:09] <EriC^^> if it was highlighted
[09:09] <EriC^^> or ctrl+shift+v
[09:09] <EriC^^> if copied
[09:10] <mcgiwer> @lordievader: when I try to compile a "Hello world", I get following error: http://pastebin.com/SnfJ6BbK
[09:10] <EriC^^> xscreensaver has a matrix screensaver and other screensavers too
[09:10] <wileee> CB6, this is the cmatrix page I see some controls you might check for fun.  http://www.asty.org/cmatrix/
[09:10] <EriC^^> i think the login screen is pretty obnoxious though
[09:10] <CB6> ty
[09:11] <EriC^^> CB6: it has a pacman screensaver too, pretty interesting stuff, give it a look if you want
[09:13] <lordievader> mcgiwer: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gcc.help/26926
[09:14] <lordievader> mcgiwer: Is binutils up to date?
[09:14] <TheMaster> xscreensaver has a lot of different screensavers, even bsod and some fun games.
[09:16] <CB6> if you open a program from terminal it leaves a blank line after and doesn't revert back to your username followed by $. If you close terminal it says it will kill the program you just opened with the terminal command. How do you start a new line without killing the process?
[09:17] <EriC^^> CB6: program &
[09:17] <EriC^^> it will put it in the background
[09:18] <CB6> ty
[09:18] <EriC^^> if you want to close the terminal and keep it, program & disown
[09:19] <EriC^^> or just typing exit in the terminal will disown it and exit
[09:19] <blaid> Всем добрый день! Кто может помочь разобраться с сетью(маршрутизацией) в ubuntu
[09:20] <mcgiwer> @lordievader: yes, it is
[09:21] <CB6> think this is a ppa issue again or whatever because not able to grab xscreensaver-extras
[09:21] <OerHeks> !ru | blaid
[09:23] <AppAraat> hi, suppose you're using a live environment of your favorite Ubuntu flavor. You installed some packages and made a few configuration customizations (think: setting the default view in a file manager etc.). Now however you want to install it on a real system. I know how to preserve the home dir, but how can I also transfer the packages which were also installed?
[09:23] <AppAraat> (preserve as in, transfer the user made configurations)
[09:26] <OerHeks> AppAraat, check softwarecenter > history, or /var/log/apt/history.log what you installed
[09:27] <OerHeks> else think hard :-P
[09:28] <somsip> AppAraat: maybe http://askubuntu.com/questions/17823/how-to-list-all-installed-packages
[09:28] <AppAraat> ah, and then just use the package manager to simply install it on the target system? Yeah I guess that saves a lot of headache.
[09:28] <AppAraat> *install them
[09:30] <lordievader> mcgiwer: Well it is clear your compiler is broken.
[09:31] <tokam> Nach 5 Versuchen wird aufgegeben. Error: g-io-error-quark: Error opening file '/media/tokam/ToKaM/my-important-lenovo-g550-backups/duplicity-full.20150722T144539Z.vol728.difftar.gpg': Input/output error (0)
[09:31] <AppAraat> oh I like this method: aptitude search '~i!~M'
[09:31] <AppAraat> thanks :)
[09:31] <lordievader> mcgiwer: Is your install a fresh install or an upgrade?
[09:32] <AppAraat> tokam: I can't understand German but it seems like either source or destination can not be accessed properly.
[09:32] <AppAraat> !de | tokam
[09:32] <mcgiwer> @ lordievader: I got forced to run it from LiveCD of ubuntu 14.04 with repositories of 15.04
[09:33] <tokam> Its a failure message of my data backup service
[09:33] <lordievader> mcgiwer: Err, what?
[09:33] <mcgiwer> since the 15.04 is causing crash of the system (stop to response) after I enable wifi with turned off IPv6 support
[09:33] <cluelessperson> So I'm trying to allow a user to access CIFS mounts.  This is my FSTAB  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11922616/   these are the mounts http://paste.ubuntu.com/11922620/
[09:33] <cluelessperson> the user zachary who is part of the "mediashare" group CAN read and acess the mounts, good
[09:33] <cluelessperson> however, the service/application subsonic, using "subsonic" user, ALSO part of the "mediashare" group, CANNOT access the mounts for some reason with permission denied
[09:34] <lordievader> mcgiwer: So you are compiling something on a Trusty system with Vivid binaries? I now understand why your compiler is broken.
[09:36] <mcgiwer> @ lordievader: I had installed vivid, but as I wrote a bit ago, it started suddely to hung the system after connecting wifi without IPv6 turned on (in console it showed me kernel panic)
[09:38] <AppAraat> hmm, aptitude search '~i!~M' seems to cut descriptions though.
[09:40] <jemendja> hi
[09:42] <AppAraat> For more information on search patterns, see the section “Search Patterns” in the
[09:42] <AppAraat>            aptitude reference manual.
[09:42] <AppAraat> yet I can't find those search patterns anywhere :S
[09:42] <AppAraat> hi jemendja
[09:47] <JustSigh_>    
[09:47] <JustSigh_> zzzz99rash
[09:47] <JustSigh_> aaaaa0ooollll
[09:48] <kongthap__> hi, when ~/.profile is actually loaded?, when i tried to put some error there, openning terminal nothing show, when using "source ~/.profile" error show
[09:51] <lordievader> kongthap__: Upon login.
[09:51] <OerHeks> if you use ~/.bash_profile in Ubuntu then ~/.profile will not be read.
[09:51] <lordievader> OerHeks: It should still be read.
[09:52] <kongthap__> lordievader, great :)
[09:54] <kongthap__> when type $PATH in terminal there is error "no file or directory" i'm sure these wrong path setting are not in both ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc, is there technique i can debug where it from ?
[09:58] <lordievader> kongthap__: Do you mean 'echo $PATH'?
[09:58] <kongthap__> lordievader, yes when echo $PATH, an error shown
[09:59] <lordievader> kongthap__: What error?
[09:59] <kongthap__> lordievader, not file or directory (i'm sorry i cannot be exact now because now i'm on windows)
[10:00] <lordievader> kongthap__: That is really strange. Is echo somehow missing?
[10:01] <kongthap__> lordievader, at least i saw java path when echo $PATH (java path export is not in .bashrc, .profile), so i think there are some other files using to setup path
[10:01] <kongthap__> lordievader, please wait i will start ubuntu
[10:02]  * proggger trest
[10:02] <proggger> hi, I have an issue with 15.04 on my laptop
[10:03] <proggger> well, I have a few issues but this one is an important one for me: so I used ubuntu before and I remember it was able to save the active session when turning off and getting back to it after booting up
[10:03] <proggger> I used dconf to set the autosave sessions but it doesn't seem to work
[10:04] <proggger> any idea?
[10:06] <kongthap__> lordievader, i'm so sorry, i was stupid forgot to type "echo", so i thought it must be error :(
[10:06] <OerHeks> autosave isn't working for a long time now, see this bugreport https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/771896
[10:13] <proggger> OerHeks: thanks. It's a shame though... I really need it, because on my laptop sleep doesn't work, hibernation doesn't work... I wil report the sleep issue but it's annoying that I have to start up manually everything whenever I turn off the laptop and back again
[10:15] <christian> hi
[10:17] <rejns> i run apache2 on ubuntu 15.04 and i get this error when i try to restart server "Failed to start LSB: Apache2 web server."
[10:29] <cluelessperson> hey guys
[10:29] <sharax> hi
[10:29] <sharax> i want install luasql.mysql from ubuntu
[10:29] <cluelessperson> how doy ou get the user id and gid of a running process?
[10:29] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: ps aux | grep <process>
[10:30] <sharax> error after load command "luarock install luasql-mysql"
[10:30] <sharax> Error: Could not find expected file mysql.h for MYSQL -- you may have to install MYSQL in your system and/or pass MYSQL_DIR or MYSQL_INCDIR to the luarocks command. Example: luarocks install luasql-mysql MYSQL_DIR=/usr/local
[10:34] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, awesome.  Is there a way to see what groups that process is a part of?
[10:34] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, Subsonic is the user, and subsonic in ubuntu shows it's part of my mediashare group, but I'm not sure the process has the permissions of that group?
[10:36] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: i think it has the permissions
[10:37] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, I'm getting permission denied errors from CIFS when the service subsonic attempts to scan the directories for media
[10:38] <EriC^^> what's the permissions of a dir there?
[10:38] <EriC^^> ls -ld /media/something
[10:39] <cluelessperson> EriC^^,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11922620/
[10:39] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: type getfacl /media/mediashare
[10:40] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11924587/
[10:40] <murray2k> hey folks, I got a rather strange problem since kernel 3.19.0-22+, one of my two displays stays black after boot up. Works in *.0-21. Any idea where I can start looking for the error?
[10:41] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: that's getfacl of /media/mediashare?
[10:41] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: what's the dir before the dir you showed earlier?
[10:43] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, it's  /media/zac/share
[10:44] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: try getfacl /media/zac
[10:44] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: it must be some dir before that that it doesn't have permissions to
[10:46] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, drwxr-xr-x   4 root root  4096 Jul 22 13:34 media
[10:46] <cluelessperson>    
[10:46] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, /media/zac has the same permissions.
[10:46] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: yeah, type getfacl /media/zac
[10:46] <EriC^^> it should have extra stuff
[10:48] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11924619/
[10:49] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: hmm, odd
[10:49] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, Yeah, it's confusing.  Before user "zachary" couldn't access it, but I readded it to the group and restarted the shell and it worked
[10:50] <EriC^^> ok
[10:50] <EriC^^> so if you run the process as zachary it doesn't work?
[10:51] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, basically, before I could not access the mounts with any non-root user
[10:51] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, Now I CAN as zachary, or as root, but subsonic fails
[10:52] <cluelessperson> zachary is part of mediashare group, so is subsonic
[10:52] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: did you logout and log back in after adding subsonic?
[10:53] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, the server has been restart
[10:53] <cluelessperson> ed
[10:54] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: ok, type sudo su subsonic -s /bin/bash
[10:54] <EriC^^> and try cd /media etc. see where it hangs
[10:54] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, it accesses it fine, wtf.
[10:56] <Devta> Can you help me triple boot my pc with ubuntu, Windows xp,Windows 8.1.
[10:56] <mnr33> firefox flash player  issue , can't load any page like youtube facebook, I know flash player is removed from firefox but how to solve it?
[10:57] <baizon> mnr33: what is the error msg?
[10:57] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, Well, basically the symptom now is that subsonic cannot scan the media directories
[10:57] <cfhowlett> mnr33, a patch was released.  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should get you going
[10:58] <mnr33> oh I see let me check
[10:58] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: can zachary?
[10:59] <cluelessperson> EriC^^, both users zachary and subsonic can raed the directory yes.  The application subsonic fails to run a media scan under the subsonic user.  Not sure if that's an application bug or what.  I'm going to try running it as zachary and see if it works
[10:59] <Devta> Can you help me triple boot my pc with ubuntu, Windows xp,Windows 8.1.
[11:00] <cfhowlett> Devta, xp?  as in no longer supported?  better option; install ubuntu, add virtualbox, install windows to vbox
[11:01] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: ok
[11:01] <EriC^^> TJ-: you there?
[11:01] <TJ-> EriC^^: Yes, although pre-occupied
[11:01] <EriC^^> ok, np
[11:02] <TJ-> EriC^^: But to your obvious question: "strace ..." !
[11:02] <EriC^^> ok, thanks :)
[11:03] <Devta> Ok if I say I have had installed it in Vbox and I want to access network connections on pc. How can I do that?
[11:04] <EriC^^> Devta: make the connection bridged i think
[11:07] <voidz0r> Hey guise, this widget shows up in lspci: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200 SE TurboCache] (rev a1)
[11:07] <voidz0r> but nvidia-detector says "none"
[11:07] <voidz0r> which package do i need for this card and/or how do i figure this out myself?
[11:10] <voidz0r> the links in the descriptions are all 404
[11:10] <voidz0r> 14.04.2 btw
[11:13] <AppAraat> I'm hooking up this Samsung 32GB microSD to a USB adapter and trying to format in NTFS but for some reason it gives me this - http://kpaste.net/d1f
[11:13] <AppAraat> also I got this from gparted but I'm not sure I can see this info in CLI - http://imgur.com/jf7o5bd
[11:13] <AppAraat> I ran ntfsfix after that but no luck - http://kpaste.net/1878991c
[11:13] <AppAraat> if anyone can please tell me what is going on, I'd really appreciate that. I don't really want to fix it as I can return this to the shop I bought from but it would be great if I could know what the problem is.
[11:14] <voidz0r> try sudo mkfs.ntfs -Q -L NewVolume /dev/sdxY
[11:15] <voidz0r> also, is it unmounted?
[11:15] <voidz0r> try umount /dev/sdxY first, just in case
[11:15] <voidz0r> (with sudo ofc)
[11:17] <AppAraat> oh yeah it's definitely unmounted, I'll try that mkfs command in a bit.
[11:18] <TJ-> AppAraat: There are some (older) USB SD adapters that cannot address more than 16GB ... you may have one of those
[11:18] <mnr33> cfhowlett: now it's working but the video on facebook is sloppy , could you give me a solution
[11:19] <cfhowlett> mnr33, more workaround than solution: try chromium browser
[11:19] <AppAraat> TJ-: the weird thing was that it formatted fat32 just fine on windows. Could it be that the kernel doesn't recognize the block device directly because it's an adapter?
[11:20] <TJ-> AppAraat: I'd doubt that; if the USB adapter is fine with Windows then it'll be fine with Linux.
[11:24] <voidz0r> formatting fat just writes a header afaik
[11:27] <voidz0r> I installed nvidia-304 but dkms failed... here's the log http://sprunge.us/ageF
[11:31] <cluelessperson> Thanks for the help, here's your reward.  https://youtu.be/JSdzkzZQvFY?list=PLtDPZXa1DfzfWmIUUW-CufM0vTBLWd-AL
[11:35] <AppAraat> voidz0r: it said it was successful - http://kpaste.net/f18c2d - but I still get the error when I try to mount it.
[11:35] <AppAraat> hmm... lemme see if I can mount another microSD card through that adapter.
[11:35] <RIdley5> does anyones have a sollution against Flash player for Firefox please ?
[11:36] <cfhowlett> RIdley5, get the patch.  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:36] <RIdley5> ok thank you cfhowlett
[11:36] <cfhowlett> happy2help! RIdley5
[11:36] <RIdley5> :)
[11:39] <RIdley5> i got anything to update cfhowlett, im using Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[11:39] <pvl> join openstack
[11:40] <cfhowlett> RIdley5, there are 2 commmands:  sudo apt-get update refreshes your list of installed programs.  sudo apt-get dist-ugprade will upgrade all installed packages, including flash, to the highest version currently available in the repos.
[11:41] <voidz0r> AppAraat: that's the part that works
[11:41] <voidz0r> where's the error?
[11:42] <gulzar> we have a product working on server with Ubuntu12.04 .  i need to work on its development. So using ubuntu12.04 is better or ubuntu14.04? Will 14.04 make any problems?
[11:42] <cfhowlett> gulzar, ask #ubuntu-server
[11:42] <gulzar> My development is on desktop
[11:42] <gulzar> cfhowlett:
[11:42] <voidz0r> create a chroot with debootstrap
[11:43] <voidz0r> for 12.04, and then do development there
[11:43] <cfhowlett> gulzar, yes 14.04 has improvements over 12.04.  upgrade or don't.  your choice.
[11:44] <ericP> i installed nodejs and it created /usr/bin/nodejs. most scripts invoke `env node`. i stuck a symlink in /usr/local/bin but i'm wondering how this is normally handled. (same for other stuff like jison.)
[11:44] <gulzar> cfhowlett: my question is if using 14.04 for compiling and packages is good idea, since I have to put them on server with 12.04
[11:44] <voidz0r> gulzar: it's not
[11:45] <gulzar> voidz0r: so I should keep 12.04 on both
[11:45] <RIdley5> i done the two command but no update available cfhowlett
[11:45] <kjaer> gulzar, It really depends on the dependencies of the package. If you are creating a simple wrapper without dependencies it doesn't mather.
[11:45] <voidz0r> either upgrade both or upgrade none
[11:46] <voidz0r> also if you statically compile everything, it won't matter either
[11:46] <Lunatic_Player> Is there a channel for distant control computer or can I ask help here?
[11:46] <voidz0r> *statically link
[11:46] <gulzar> kjaer: it is simple python, shell script, c++, java sripts. and few tools which needs compilation using gcc, or python etc.
[11:46] <kjaer> How are you creating the packages? debtool or fpm?
[11:46] <voidz0r> yeah pretty simple it only uses all of the languages and compilers
[11:47] <gulzar> kjaer: no , only compiling and adding their path to environment for executable
[11:47] <gulzar> kjaer: then from within the compiled folder they are called
[11:47] <gulzar> kjaer: no .deb creation
[11:48] <gulzar> kjaer: there is a hierarchy to keep those folders
[11:48] <Lunatic_Player> remmina & x11vnc in my case
[11:48] <kjaer> So no external dependencies?
[11:49] <gulzar> kjaer: till now I needed these dpkg-dev make g++ gcc binutils libx11-dev libxpm-dev libxft-dev libxext-dev libpng-dev libjpeg-dev python2
[11:50] <gulzar> kjaer: rest mostly web based tools like D3, or R packages which are not probalamatic
[11:51] <kjaer> gulzar, Ok. I think you should make sure that the build environment matches the execution environment. That is, same Ubuntu version.
[11:51] <BBLLCC> tar.bz2, can i safely use one of those on xubuntu?
[11:51] <gulzar> kjaer: Ok
[11:51] <gulzar> kjaer: thank you
[11:52] <kjaer> BBLLCC, Thats just like saying should I trust .zip?
[11:52] <cfhowlett> gulzar, I'd have to agree wth kjaer.  of course, you COULD upgrade, then install 12.04 to a virtualbox ...
[11:52] <kjaer> gulzar, No problem.
[11:52] <BBLLCC> ok
[11:52] <kjaer> BBLLCC, If it contains an executable, you should be sceptical of the origin.
[11:53] <gulzar> cfhowlett: that will not make sense. I have almost all tools on 12.04. Yes 14.04 is better but the requiremen of build is 12.04. I was asking to confirm whether I can use 14.04 for 12.04 .
[11:53] <gulzar> cfhowlett: but its not
[11:53] <goju> A insatlled game on my ubuntu 14.04 from playdeb refuses to uninstall/install or launch what can i do to completely earase it from my system
[11:54] <goju> i am an indian
[11:54] <gulzar> goju: why to declare that yout are an indian
[11:54] <goju> cause i saw u
[11:54] <BBLLCC> can anyone help me with gadmin?
[11:54] <goju> i thought u r too
[11:55] <gulzar> goju: yes I am
[11:55] <murray2k> Hi folks, I have a strange problem I can not use both of my displays in 1080p since kernel  3.19.0-22. If I set them both to fullhd one turns off.
[11:55] <gulzar> goju: But I am an Archer
[11:55] <goju> ha ha ...guessed right ......location ?
[11:55] <goju> me: Kolkata
[11:55] <TJ-> !ot | goju gulzar
[11:56] <goju> sorry
[11:56] <voidz0r> ^ mentioning arch in #ubuntu
[11:56] <TJ-> murray2k: does booting from the previous kernel version solve it?
[11:56] <gulzar> TJ-: not that statement was to tell goju that don't expect ubuntu related help from me.
[11:56] <murray2k> yes it does.
[11:56] <gulzar> TJ-: and I am here because currently my work is on ubuntu
[11:56] <TJ-> murray2k: which GPU(s) does the system have; which drivers?
[11:56] <goju> plz sove my problem: I want to erasr all traces of a game installed bt playdeb repositories
[11:57] <goju> *solve
[11:57] <gulzar> goju: locate and remove
[11:57] <TJ-> goju: If a package is installed using apt, then "apt-get purge <package-name>"
[11:57] <goju> sudo ?
[11:57] <TJ-> goju: Usually, yes
[11:58] <goju> yes its installed but refuses to launch
[11:58] <goju> are all playdeb games tested
[12:00] <TJ-> goju: playdeb isn't supported here; you'll need to find/ask the playdeb/getdeb/game publishers. If you can provide specific error messages that might help us narrow down the cause a little, though
[12:00] <murray2k> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11924903/
[12:01] <TJ-> murray2k: OK, so an ATI/AMD Radeon currently using the open-source driver. Is the PC currently booted  with the misbehaving kernel version?
[12:03] <murray2k> TJ-: yes that's correct.
[12:04] <TJ-> murray2k: Can you pastebin "/var/log/dmesg" ?
[12:06] <knuella> i think i have a little problem with the webbrowser-app in ubuntu touch. Every time when i open the app a "java-warnmeldung" (engl.: warning massage) appears with the following content: "Herzlichen Glückwunsch, Ihr Ubuntu wurde zufällig als das heutige gklückliche mobile gerät ausgewählt! [...] Klicken Sie auf OK [...]" (engl., analogous: "You have won s.th., pleas press OK!"). Does anyone knows this? Maybe its only facebook advertising...
[12:06] <cfhowlett> !touch | knuella
[12:07] <murray2k> TJ-: sure, here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11924922/
[12:08] <tuonick> I would change ip address without log off from isp
[12:08] <Afdla> how to lower mouse sensitivity below what the gui offers?
[12:08] <Afdla> xinput deceleration thing doesn't work
[12:09] <Afdla> xset m doesn't work
[12:10] <TJ-> murray2k: Three ports: 1 x HDMI, 1x DVI-D and 1 x VGA - do all have monitors attached or just the digital outputs?
[12:11] <murray2k> TJ-: just the digital ones.
[12:11] <TJ-> murray2k: OK: can you show "pastebinit <( xrandr -q )"
[12:12] <murray2k> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11924936/
[12:15] <TJ-> murray2k: and is one of those monitors currently blank?
[12:17] <tobben> Anyone interesting in listening to a RTMP I just have configured?
[12:18] <murray2k>  TJ-: no, both are working right now. If I set the HDMI-0 to 1920x1080 than this one turns off.
[12:18] <tobben> Anyone interesting into a RTMP based server I just have written a script for ?
[12:19] <tobben>  Anyone interesting listening and give back a report of an  RTMP based server I just have written a script for ?
[12:20] <cfhowlett> tobben, you've asked 3 times.  you've got your answer.
[12:21] <tobben> Anyone interesting to listen in and give a report on a  RTMP based server I just have written a script for?
[12:21] <TJ-> murray2k: OK, and the max res is shown as "16384 x 16384" so that shouldn't be the issue; can you "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:21] <tobben> Okay. sorry, no answer yet...
[12:22] <sb_> Hi
[12:22] <sb_> :-)
[12:23] <murray2k> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11924974/
[12:24] <tobben> my URL is http://109.189.225.234:8005
[12:24] <nicechap> is there a way to avoid copying trailing spaces when I copy paste text from terminal into, say, a gui editor in ubuntu?
[12:25] <nicechap> I get all these extra spaces when I try to copy paste :-(
[12:25] <tobben> please reports back....here
[12:25] <nicechap> I use Gnome terminal
[12:25] <_Lucifer> negro
[12:26] <solsTiCe> hi. I installed mame. I am looking for doc about mame.ini. Spefically, I want it to run on my 2nd monitor.
[12:26] <_Lucifer> you people  are boring af
[12:27] <cfhowlett> _Lucifer, you are free to leave.  With your attitude, please do so.
[12:28] <notmaelkreek> what
[12:28] <notmaelkreek> cfhowlett:I drove my new car today ^^
[12:28] <tobben> cfhowlett, may you give a report to an audio server now running at  http://109.189.225.234:8005    ?
[12:28] <cfhowlett> notmaelkreek, nothing to do with ubuntu.  try a different channel
[12:28] <notmaelkreek> cfhowlett:wtf with that attitude
[12:29] <TJ-> murray2k: I'd *suspect* it is because the ACI 22fa has 3 refresh rates for 1920x1080 and the driver is auto-selecting a 'bad' one.
[12:29] <bazhang> notmaelkreek, take chat elsewhere
[12:29] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | notmaelkreek
[12:29] <_Lucifer> 23.61.5.192     someone hit that no balls
[12:29] <notmaelkreek> bazhang:why ban me?
[12:30] <bazhang> notmaelkreek, this is support only, no chat
[12:30] <cfhowlett> notmaelkreek, you know why.  go play somewhere else
[12:30] <mawaheb> Hello Everyone, I have a problem, On my pc, Headphones and speakers are working same time!!! Googling did not help, I even tried the Alsa mixer channels suggestion...
[12:30] <notmaelkreek> I have support questions too
[12:30] <TJ-> murray2k: Try "xrandr --output HDMI-0 --mode "1920x1080@59.9"
[12:30] <cfhowlett> notmaelkreek, Ubuntu support only
[12:30] <notmaelkreek> cfhowlett:I use Ubuntu
[12:30] <bazhang> notmaelkreek, then ask them all one line
[12:31] <genii> notmaelkreek: If you have a support question, ask it here. If you have comments about other thing, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:31] <notmaelkreek> genii:I am banned there
[12:32] <genii> notmaelkreek: So if you have support question, ask it here. If you have comments about other things, use alis to find an appropriate channel that you're not yet banned in
[12:32] <genii> !alis
[12:32] <notmaelkreek> genii:"not yet banned in" lmao
[12:32] <TJ-> "yet" :D
[12:32] <Matt_teni> !wifi
[12:32] <tobben> goto #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:33] <tobben> !#ubuntu-offtopic
[12:34] <voidz0r>  /query ubottu try all the commands 1v1 :)
[12:34] <w30> does anybody know a command to re-read  the mouse ~/.config file?
[12:35] <murray2k> TJ-: xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1080@59.9
[12:36] <tobben> Does anybody listen to a fresh audio server set up by me now at http://109.189.225.234:8005   ?
[12:37] <tobben> interesting in a report....
[12:37] <bazhang> tobben, how is that oin topic here
[12:37] <voidz0r> why not try #icecast ?
[12:38] <tobben> bazhang, what do you mean "oin topic here" ?
[12:38] <bazhang> tobben, your report and such is not on topic here
[12:39] <TJ-> murray2k: Grrrr, xrandr syntax I think
[12:39] <JustMozzy> hi everyone. I have constantly
[12:39] <bazhang> tobben, please find a social channel to poll there, it has nothing to do with ubuntu support
[12:39] <tobben> I don't know how to switch topic, can you tell me the IRC command?
[12:39] <bazhang> !alis | tobben
[12:39] <weny_peny> god damn lightdm high cpu usage. I'm very pro ubuntu but i feel people lie when they say ubuntu  runs better windows. the lighdm issue so huge.
[12:40] <JustMozzy>  I have constant weird problems with my ubuntu machine. the newest: although it used to always work, suddenly ethernet cables are not detected (and I made sure that they are working on other machines). can anyone help me diagnose the problem?
[12:40] <weny_peny> linux literally needs to burn up 50cpu just to show javascript
[12:40] <tobben> join #freenode
[12:40] <voidz0r> weny_peny: no problems here... though you could try lxdm if you need a lighter dm
[12:40] <TJ-> murray2k: Try "xrandr --output HDMI-0 --mode "1920x1080_59.9"
[12:41] <weny_peny> is it compatible with unity on ubuntu? voidz0r ?
[12:41] <weny_peny> oh it's a totally differnece deskt environment
[12:41] <voidz0r> sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install lxdm
[12:42] <weny_peny> you know, i installed xfce with thoughts of bypassing lightdm issue.
[12:42] <voidz0r> that way it doesn't install lxdm
[12:42] <murray2k> TJ-: also not working
[12:42] <TJ-> murray2k: Sorry not it should be "xrandr --output HDMI-0 --mode "1920x1080  --rate 59.9"  !!
[12:42] <weny_peny> same issue. lightdm loves burning up resources.
[12:42] <weny_peny> my my rig aint so old either. it's core dueo 2.4ghz
[12:42] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:43] <weny_peny> like blank firefox page, lighdm just burns up like 1cpu. no problem. but when you just open like wunderlist, it skyrockets to 50cpu and stays there until i close the tab or change to something else
[12:44] <weny_peny> will install that environment voidz0r
[12:45] <murray2k> TJ-: yes that works.
[12:45] <TJ-> weny_peny:  1. what make/model of PC/motherboard is it?    2. Have you customised any kernel boot options ( cat/proc/cmdline ) ?
[12:45] <TJ-> murray2k: OK ... so you now have 2 working screens?
[12:45] <weny_peny> voidz0r, i just ran it. i choose lxdm as default display manager. its just like 800kb
[12:46] <weny_peny> voidz0r, what do i do if it totally wrecks the display manager? because in the past, i tried force installing gnome shell and totally wrecked it. had to reinstalled ubuntu
[12:46] <voidz0r> weny_peny: reinstalling ubuntu should never be the solution
[12:46] <weny_peny> TJ-, decent computer 2. i haven't customized anything
[12:47] <voidz0r> and it's a display manager itself
[12:47] <murray2k> TJ-: that's correct both working with fullhd as resolution.
[12:47] <voidz0r> you get to choose which one you want by default w/ debconf
[12:47] <weny_peny> weny_peny, when your computer starts flashing, screen on and off.. there is some major issue
[12:47] <TJ-> murray2k: I looks as if that ACI screen doesn't like 60Hz refresh, or else the GPU isn't putting out 60Hz when told to. In the current kernel 60Hz is the default so we've forced it to 59.9Hz. You should boot with the older, good, kernel and check the "xrandr -q" report to see if it shows 1920x1080 with 60Hz as the default there too, and check whether it has been selected or is using 59.9.
[12:48] <weny_peny> voidz0r, i just installed the lxdm and have it set to default. but im scared of restarting the pc. what should i do if i'm unable to enter the environment and left with blank screen
[12:48] <weny_peny> how do i easily change the display manager back to lxdm?
[12:48] <weny_peny> i'll write i on a pen and paper just in case
[12:49] <weny_peny> i know i will have to alt+cntrl+f1
[12:49] <weny_peny> what then
[12:49] <voidz0r> weny_peny: make sure you choose lightdm as the default if you're worried
[12:49] <voidz0r> and then stop/start the dms manually
[12:50] <voidz0r> when you open a virtual console, log in with your username and password as usual
[12:50] <voidz0r> then run this at the prompt: sudo -s
[12:50] <voidz0r> it'll ask your password again, and it'll give you root access if correct
[12:50] <voidz0r> then you can service lightdm stop
[12:50] <voidz0r> service lxdm start
[12:50] <voidz0r> and go back to tty1 with ctrl+alt+f1
[12:51] <murray2k> TJ-: OK: I reboot now to check, brb. THX
[12:51] <voidz0r> as long as you don't make permanent configuration changes, you can safely reboot
[12:51] <voidz0r> and if reboot fails, there's still recovery mode
[12:52] <en1gma> im on ubuntu 14.04. (1) is there a package to right click on desktop and "open new terminal" at that location also like you can if you browse with file manger and then right click anywhere and say "open new terninal" and it does at that file location. love that feature in 15.04
[12:53] <weny_peny> alright. so after running sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install lxdm it gave the option to select display manager. i chose lxdm. now if hell breaks loose after login in, i will alt-cntr f1 and turn lxdm offand turn of lightdm. voidz0r got it. rebooting now
[12:53] <en1gma> (2) i think i screwed up my opencl driver that is in ubuntu repos. i tried to install intel sdk and it didnt go well. neither will work. if someone can help me fix that it would be great.
[12:53] <voidz0r> weny_peny: no, you choose lightdm
[12:53] <voidz0r> otherwise you'll be changing the configuration to start lxdm
[12:53] <weny_peny> i think it's already changed
[12:54] <voidz0r> okay
[12:54] <en1gma> can i just "reconfigure" the intel opencl driver or what ever driver it is thats from ubuntu repos
[12:54] <weny_peny> how do i get the terminal window back when allowed me select the display manager
[12:54] <weny_peny> which*
[12:54] <voidz0r> not sure... perhaps it's dpkg-reconfigure -plow lxdm
[12:54] <en1gma> when the package is 1st installed it asks you some "Y" or "N" questions about the driver. i need to do that again and dont know how
[12:55] <voidz0r> running an install right now, can't do this for you this minute
[12:55] <en1gma> i tried the 'dpkg-reconfigure" but with no flags
[12:55] <en1gma> do those help?
[12:55] <en1gma> preciate the help voidz0r
[12:55] <weny_peny> yes it was that thanks
[12:55] <Hawas> I need help in bridging network connections between Windows xp in Vbox and system.
[12:55] <en1gma> i not sure which package it is that does that
[12:55] <voidz0r> echo PURGE | debconf-communicate <name_of_package>
[12:56] <voidz0r> ^ IIRC
[12:56] <voidz0r> that'll make it forget all your answers
[12:56] <voidz0r> and then you can dpkg-reconfigure or apt-get --reinstall install <pkg>
[12:56] <en1gma> nice ill copy and paste those 2 commands and try em out.
[12:56] <weny_peny> reverted back. rebooting now. finger crossed
[12:57] <weny_peny> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm did the trick for selecting the defaul display manager voidz0r
[12:57] <voidz0r> ah, alright :)
[12:57] <Hawas> I need help in bridging network connections between Windows xp in Vbox and system.
[12:57] <en1gma> ok. got the commands saved to document. gonna try and find out what package it was
[12:58] <en1gma> thanks and will let you know as soon as i do
[12:58] <voidz0r> not sure if I'll still be here :)
[12:58] <voidz0r> but there'll be someone I'm sure
[12:58] <Hawas> Does OS in Vbox requires separate drivers for bridging
[12:59] <voidz0r> heck no, that's something you configure on the host
[12:59] <Matt_teni> voidz0r, phew man.. thank goodness i asked what do in the terminal if the display manager failed to start
[12:59] <Matt_teni> and it did fail lol
[12:59] <Hawas> I mean if I want to access LAN connection would that to require to install separate drivers in xp
[12:59] <Hawas> ??
[12:59] <Matt_teni> it said lxdm.service failed to start something
[13:00] <Matt_teni> wouldn't leave alt+cntr+f1. had to start lxdm to make it work
[13:00] <Matt_teni> i mean lightdm
[13:00] <Matt_teni> had to start it, lxdm didn't start.
[13:00] <voidz0r> so, neither dm ran?
[13:01] <voidz0r> or did it only try to start lxdm and fail?
[13:01] <Matt_teni> no, lightdm did start
[13:01] <voidz0r> ah, so you got to a login screen?
[13:01] <Matt_teni> i had lightdm set as default, so i stopped it and tried running lxdm. but didn't work. went to start lightdm again and now im here
[13:01] <Matt_teni> yes
[13:01] <voidz0r> ah
[13:02] <Matt_teni> i was at the login screen, pressed alt-cntrl+f1
[13:02] <voidz0r> so no harm done :)
[13:02] <Matt_teni> enter username/pass
[13:02] <jzp113> hi guys ?someone know ssl vpn ?
[13:02] <Matt_teni> yeah, phew :D
[13:02] <voidz0r> just a failed attempt at replacing the dm
[13:02] <Matt_teni> i thought another ubuntu format was incomming :P
[13:02] <voidz0r> might as well sudo apt-get purge lxdm now
[13:02] <voidz0r> nahh
[13:02] <Matt_teni> aliright
[13:02] <Matt_teni> so lxdm wont work on my machine?
[13:02] <jzp113> I don't know how to use openvpn?
[13:02] <voidz0r> idk... if you can figure it out
[13:02] <Matt_teni> alright.going to google
[13:02] <voidz0r> you'd rule :)
[13:03] <Matt_teni> thanks for letting me know about lxdm
[13:03] <voidz0r> yw
[13:04] <murray2k> TJ-:  I booted from the good kernel but here display works with --rate 60.0
[13:05] <bluenemo> hi guys. I just booted my laptop with 14.04 and it seems there were some chnages to the fonts and stuff :) my firefox however sadly is not showing all tabs names in a light grey that is impossible to read. how can I fix that?
[13:05] <TJ-> murray2k: Right, so it looks like a timing fault in the new kernel; possibly in the radeon driver
[13:05] <bluenemo> sry, its showing all tabs, but the text on them is in light grey, so they cant be read
[13:07] <TJ-> murray2k: can you report a bug using "ubuntu-bug linux"  with a concise description including the good and bad kernel versions, the output of "xrandr -q", and that its using the radeon (not fglxr) driver
[13:07] <Guest85582> Help please
[13:08] <murray2k> TJ-: i can do, but can use --rate 60 on the HDMI-0 output, if I decrease the resolution on the second output.
[13:08] <rtreleaven> Guest85582 what is the matter?
[13:09] <Guest85582> I am not able to bridge network connections between VM and system . I'm using Vbox
[13:09] <TJ-> murray2k: Yes, it looks like there's a bug in the max clock timing calculations
[13:11] <rtreleaven> Guest85582 are you getting an error?
[13:11] <murray2k> TJ-: OK: I file a bug report. Thanks again.
[13:12] <Guest85582> I chose Realtek adapter in network settings of Vbox . I still cannot find any connections after running VM.
[13:13] <Guest85582> Realtek adapter for LAN connections.
[13:13] <rtreleaven> in the vm do you see a nic using ifconfig?
[13:15] <Guest85582> I have installed Windows xp in Vbox so can't use ifconfig. Do you know specified way for that OS?
[13:16] <voidz0r> ipconfig
[13:17] <bpsizemore> also can use ipconfig /all for more info
[13:17] <TJ-> murray2k: I've just looked at the changelog, and there are some drm/radeon changes in -22 .... you should dist-upgrade to the latest 3.19.0-23 because there are a lot of fixes that cover drm including patches for the CRTC
[13:17] <TJ-> murray2k: see http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux/linux_3.19.0-23.24/changelog
[13:17] <rtreleaven> Guest85582 ipconfig /all
[13:21] <murray2k> TJ-: yes, I've seen that, but I dist-upgraded today, so I'm already on 3.19.0-23
[13:23] <Junko> hi, i would like to ask a question
[13:23] <skinux> Which is the best free GUI screen recorder?
[13:23] <voidz0r> don't ask to shoot just shoot
[13:23] <bpsizemore> ^^
[13:24] <Junko> if i install the unicorn's kernel
[13:24] <DJones> !screencast | skinux There are a few mentioned by the bot here,
[13:24] <Junko> on 14.04
[13:24] <Junko> what happens when the unicorn edition is EOL
[13:25] <boomstick> how can I copy downloaded packages to /var/cache/apt/archives directory, because the usual GUI copy/paste option doesn't work?
[13:25] <DJones> skinux: I've not used any of them, so can't say which would be best though
[13:25] <Fuchs> boomstick: sudo cp /path/to/your/file /var/cache/apt/archives/
[13:25] <TJ-> murray2k: your earlier pastebin showed: "[    0.000000] Linux version 3.19.0-22-generic (buildd@allspice) (gcc version 4.9.2 (Ubuntu 4.9.2-10ubuntu13) ) #22-Ubuntu"   - I assumed that was the bad kernel
[13:25] <Fuchs> boomstick: not sure how sane that is, mind
[13:25] <skinux> Okay. Thanks
[13:25] <voidz0r> boomstick: what the hell? why?
[13:26] <boomstick> thanks fuchs
[13:26] <Fuchs> you're welcome
[13:26] <TJ-> murray2k: either way, all those drm/radeon changes will be the cause, and need dealing with
[13:26] <TJ-> murray2k: let me know the bug number once you're reported it
[13:26] <boomstick> voidz0r, I'm copying dowloaded packages to an offline computer for installation
[13:26] <voidz0r> oh.. and apt-zip doesn't work :)
[13:26] <voidz0r> I tried, it failed
[13:27] <voidz0r> so guess that'll do, hopefully :)
[13:27] <Fuchs> boomstick: technically you could also install them with dpkg, that's just a bit more of a pain with regards to dependencies
[13:27] <voidz0r> yeah or create a local mirror
[13:27] <boomstick> yes, fuchs, there's a lot of dependencies
[13:27] <voidz0r> deb file:///mnt/ ./
[13:27] <boomstick> synaptic package manager kinda freezes when I try to do that
[13:27] <voidz0r> put all the debs there
[13:28] <voidz0r> to create the Release file:\
[13:28] <DWSR> Hey all, I'm trying to configure a disk image of sorts for Ubuntu to deploy across a large number of laptops. What's the most effective way to do this? I'm used to sysprep'ing Windows machines. Is there something similar?
[13:28] <voidz0r> dpkg-scandir . >Releas
[13:28] <voidz0r> *Release
[13:28] <boomstick> how would I install that after copying the debs, voidzor?
[13:28] <Fuchs> DWSR: do you need to adapt the images or is it just the standard?
[13:28] <bpsizemore> Junko: I would image you would have to either keep using the old kernel, or upgrade to a new one
[13:28] <Fuchs> DWSR: if you have to adapt them: we use uck for that
[13:29] <Fuchs> DWSR: for deployment there are lovely things like foreman or cobbler
[13:29] <DWSR> Fuchs: Adapt them to different hardware configurations? If that's possible, I would like to be able to .
[13:29] <DWSR> I'm not used to being able to do that to Windows, but I know the Linux kernel is a hell of a lot less picky about stuff.
[13:29] <bpsizemore> Junko: I don't think it will matter too much, but I'm not really an expert on this
[13:30] <Fuchs> DWSR: well, technically with uck you can use an existing ubuntu image, change whatever you want  (we use it for active directory integration, certificates and the likes), then create a new .iso.  At this point  (or if you want the standard), you can use something like cobbler or foreman to deploy images to computers
[13:31] <DWSR> Fuchs: That's not really any different than doing deployment through WDS or similar though
[13:32] <Fuchs> DWSR: it's probably about as efficient as it gets. You specify an image, computers (with a FQDN and IP address, usually) and then boot these laptops via netboot
[13:33] <Fuchs> DWSR: another alternative is to create a disk image and just deploy that, with stuff as simple as dd
[13:33] <Fuchs> that will be somewhat tricky because you then still have to somehow ensure that the IP Address, hostname and likes are unique
[13:33] <DWSR> lol, there's a distinct lack of documentation for cobbler.
[13:33] <Junko> bpsizemore; but that kernel goes EOL
[13:34] <DWSR> Fuchs: Does ucks take care of regenerating hostnames, user profiles, etc?
[13:34] <Fuchs> DWSR: no-ish, that is what foreman could do for you
[13:35] <Fuchs> DWSR: you could of course adapt the image with uck in a way so it runs something that does that for you, but for that I'd really use foreman (or cobbler)
[13:35] <DWSR> Would you recommend Foreman or Cobbler for a quick and dirty setup? We're imaging old laptops to be essentially netbooks.
[13:36] <DWSR> I want Ubuntu to literally boot into a user profile without sudo access and be able to run Firefox. That's it that's all.
[13:39] <Fuchs> DWSR: for that I guess I'd just create an image using uck  and then deploy it via more simple methods,
[13:39] <Fuchs> DWSR: how many machines do you have?
[13:40] <Fuchs> We are currently switching from cobbler to foreman, but our usecase is slightly different  (coroprate use, new servers and client computers, we have quite a couple of these)
[13:42] <TJ-> murray2k: how you doing with the bug report? I've got one of the kernel devs attention on it
[13:46] <murray2k> TJ-: sorry nearly forgot I'm at work ;), here its https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1477587
[13:47] <ka1n> Hi. I have some trouble with segates 8TB smr hdd "ST8000AS0002". Getting ata errors frozen on ext4 fs. Im runing vivid kernel 3.19.0-16. Would it help adding kernel 4.1.3 or how do i get around this ?
[13:47] <TJ-> murray2k: many thanks
[13:49] <w30> does anybody know a command to re-read  the mouse ~/.config file?
[13:50] <w30> does anybody know a command to re-start  the mouse ~/.config file?
[13:50] <w30> after manual edit
[13:51] <w30> reboot?
[13:51] <w30> anything else?
[13:56] <ka1n> Hi. I have some trouble with segates 8TB smr hdd "ST8000AS0002". Getting ata errors frozen on ext4 fs. Im runing vivid kernel 3.19.0-16. Would it help adding kernel 4.1.3 or how do i get around this ?
[13:56] <myball> hi
[13:56] <ikonia> ka1n: why would changing the kernel matter ?
[13:57] <ikonia> ka1n: what version of ubuntu are you running ?
[13:57] <myball> 14.04
[13:58] <byonabye> am glad to be here
[13:59] <ka1n> ikonia: as it's a new drive (SMR) and old kernel drivers are not propperly supported. im runing vivid kernel 3.19.0-16
[14:00] <ikonia> ka1n: I'm not asking what kernel you're running - what version of ubuntu are you running
[14:00] <ka1n> ikonia: I just dont know if new kernel are supporting these drives proberly and or if i have to apply a kernel patch of some kind
[14:01] <ka1n> ikonia: again its vivid eg 15.04
[14:01] <ikonia> ka1n: ok, so you're currently running vivid, so what's the actual behaviour you're seeing with the drive ?
[14:02] <ka1n> ikonia: while transfering large amount of data. i get ata errors frozen. transfer halts for half a minut and the continues until next fault appears and this continues until box crashes after many hours
[14:03] <DWSR> Fuchs: Sorry, got pulled away from the desk. We're doing probably ~30 laptops.
[14:03] <DWSR> We are eventually going to WDS, so this is mostly a temporary thing.
[14:03] <Fuchs> Meh, then cobbler is a bit of an overkill
[14:04] <Fuchs> probably you could just adapt the iso to your needs, install it on either all of them or on one of them where you create an image and then just dd that to the disks
[14:04] <ka1n> ikonia: transfering lots of 50MB-100MB files at a speed of 30-50MB/s when it gives ata errors frozen. that specific file will transfer with around 4-10MB/s
[14:05] <miketyson1234> hii
[14:05] <miketyson1234> :) wassup
[14:06] <ka1n> ikonia: much like this thread: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93581#c13 im just not very familiar with runing kernel patches and are interesset in if the 4.1.3 kernel includes these updates
[14:06] <DWSR> Fuchs: The Foreman seems to be a pretty straightforward install.
[14:06] <Fuchs> DWSR: we are using that here, but as said, we use it for a bit more than you do. If you manage to get it to run as you need it in a decent amount of time: sure, use that
[14:07] <miketyson1234> how to learn c on ubuntu
[14:07] <Fuchs> DWSR: it offers Net / PXE boot, so you can basically put it in a network (it acts as DHCP), put the laptops in there with netboot enabled and have whatever iso you want installed
[14:07] <Fuchs> That's probably pretty efficient
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> miketyson1234: maybe a question for ##programming?
[14:11] <kathy_> whoami
[14:11] <kathy_> exit
[14:12] <DWSR> Fuchs: Yeah, that is definitely something I'd like to do. at the moment, I'm doing this all within hyper-v
[14:21] <spodermen_sweg> HI
[14:22] <spodermen_sweg> hi
[14:23] <Daneel> hi
[14:24] <Daneel> i am trying to use ibus on ubuntu 15.04
[14:24] <Daneel> i have two language supported by my OS
[14:24] <Daneel> key combo is used to switch from one language to one other
[14:24] <Daneel> but when i switch to Ja, il don't get a list or words in kanji
[14:25] <Daneel> i have logout and login after japanese language is activeted
[14:25] <Daneel> what am i missing ?
[14:26] <thebwt> heya guys, for unattended-upgrades can we do a package blacklist? I specifically want to stop updates of mysql* (server, client, common, etc)
[14:26] <thebwt> would it just be "mysql" ?
[14:27] <DJones> !pinning | thebwt This info might be helpful with that,
[14:28] <thebwt> fascinating, thanks DJones
[14:28] <jzachary> Hi everyone!
[14:28] <dawidd6> hi
[14:28] <thebwt> Howdy
[14:28] <jzachary> is this the proper place for help or questions?
[14:28] <dawidd6> yup
[14:32] <agent_white> twice
[14:32] <spodermen_sweg> how do I view my android device's screen from the desktop by means of usb?
[14:34] <vivaldis> hi world!!!
[14:36] <vivaldis> you may download a smaller image of ubuntu studio?
[14:36] <jzachary> i have a USB Raid box attached to a Ubuntu server, having trouble getting the partition/format setup
[14:36] <DWSR> jzachary: Make and model of the USB Raid box, as well as Ubuntu version
[14:37] <Mitchell92> Hi... Is there a way to defrag my hard disk?
[14:38] <jzachary> Ubuntu is 14.04, hangon have to walk down to server room to get the raid model lol
[14:38] <somsip> !defrag | Mitchell92
[14:38] <Mitchell92> thanks.
[14:42] <jzachary> DWSR: Mobius™ 5-Bay FireWire 800, eSATA, USB 3.0 RAID Hard Drive Enclosure
[14:47] <jzachary> iv’e considered formatting it as HFs+ but not sure if that’s wise
[14:48] <Fatar> join #ubuntu-beginners
[14:48] <Fatar> shit.
[14:51] <Rabat> Hi all, I am writing an academic article and i'm trying to find the minimum hardware requirements for Ubuntu desktop 14.04 from either the Canonical or Ubuntu website. The closes i've found is http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=1146 which shows RAM and disk space.
[14:52] <Rabat> does anyone know of any other pages that show other hardware requirements (processor speed, display etc)
[14:53] <eonbluez> i enabled encrypted filesystem when i installed Ubuntu and now whenever i install a package or do anything it prompts for my encryption fs password.  Is this normal?  It's rather annoying
[14:53] <eonbluez> if this is normal behaviour, can I disable encryption without reinstalling the OS?
[14:55] <TJ-> eonbluez: the encrypted file-system will only need to be unlocked once, so it can be mounted. Are you referring to full-disk encryption, or user home-directory?
[14:55] <Fatar> how do I check the file type of each files in a directory?(supernoob)
[14:55] <kostkon> !requirements | Rabat
[14:56] <eonbluez> TJ-: full disk encryption
[14:57] <Rabat> @ubottu thank you, what versions of Ubuntu does this cover? thanks
[14:58] <TJ-> eonbluez: the only reason I can imagine for repeated requests for the pass-phrase is that the encrypted device file-system is being unmounted+closed each time.
[14:58] <genii> Rabat: The page the bot references is always updated to reflect the requirements of the current LTS release
[14:58] <somsip> Rabat: ubottu is a bot. More info will be on that webpage or by typing (example) !Xubuntu for details and xubuntu
[14:58] <genii> So 14.04 in this case
[14:59] <Rabat> Excellent, thank you genii and somsip
[15:01] <Rabat> !ubuntu
[15:11] <jzachary> WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sdb'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted. - I formatted using sudo mkfs.ext3, was that incorrect?
[15:11] <jzachary> is there a better way?
[15:11] <EriC^^> jzachary: why ext3?
[15:11] <jzachary> i honestly don’t know
[15:12] <EriC^^> why not ext4, and that error has to do with using fdisk instead of gdisk, as you have a gpt partition table
[15:12] <EriC^^> jzachary: ext4 is better, what will you be using iti for anyways?
[15:12] <jzachary> i’m very unversed on the formatting options available
[15:12] <EriC^^> *it
[15:12] <jzachary> it’s a USB raid box
[15:12] <jzachary> file storage, server backups, etc
[15:12] <skulltip> on ubuntu 15  betaville hijacked my file extensions. when i try to create a .sh it associates with betaville. how can i fix this
[15:14] <jzachary> is ext4 proper for a 12 tb volume?
[15:14] <EriC^^> i think it can handle that, yeah
[15:14] <skulltip> in fact any blank file i create, betaville wants to own it
[15:14] <cfhowlett> skulltip, rightclick > properties > open with
[15:14] <TJ-> jzachary: is that 12TB of raw disks, or 12TB *after* being RAIDed ?
[15:15] <skulltip> right.. i want to make a script executable permanently
[15:15] <jpds> jzachary: Better question is: "Is it proper for your use-case" whatever that is
[15:16] <jzachary> 12tb after being raided
[15:16] <jzachary> it mounts at that size
[15:16] <TJ-> jzachary: how many devices in the array?
[15:16] <jzachary> 3 drives
[15:17] <TJ-> jzachary: Is that 3 x 4TB drives? If so where's the RAID there?
[15:18] <jzachary> it’s 3x4tb its raid 0 i beleive, to it’s just one big volume no redundancy
[15:19] <TJ-> jzachary: So just striping the data over the 3 drives ... that sounds highly dangerous unless the data is 100% backed up somewhere else, or is very transient
[15:19] <jzachary> yes, it will be backed up
[15:20] <TJ-> jzachary: From what you've already said it sounds as if the RAID device ( /dev/mapper/md0 ?) has a GUID partition table on it (GPT)
[15:21] <jzachary> yes, i believe so
[15:22] <OhYash> Whats ##TopChat?
[15:22] <TJ-> jzachary: In which case don't use 'fdisk' - it doesn't understand GPT, as it reported. Check the layout with 'gdisk', and if its acceptable, you can do the file-system formatting using mkfs.<FILESYSTEM_NAME>
[15:27] <OhYash> Ann's a bitch
[15:29] <jzachary> TJ-: i get confused on the format, My disk shows up as /dev/sdb but then there is /dev/sdb1 under “Device Boot”
[15:29] <jzachary> which should i be using in the format command?
[15:29] <OhYash> Hey, could anyone of you standalone window manager users suggest me a complete panel that supports both systray and indicators?
[15:30] <TJ-> jzachary: is the RAID being done in hardware in the 'box' then?
[15:30] <hggdh> jzachary: dev/ddb is the raw disk, dev/sdb1 is a partition
[15:30] <TJ-> jzachary: So the file-system does in the partition sdb1
[15:30] <jzachary> TJ-: Yes, the box is handling it
[15:30] <TJ-> s/does/goes/
[15:30] <hugegreenbug> jzachary: if you were raided you should call 911
[15:30] <jzachary> lol
[15:31] <jzachary> the raid was previously HFS+ on a mac, should i redo the entire thing? like the partition?
[15:33] <TJ-> jzachary: historically, Linux has had limited/problematic support for writing to HFS+ ... I'm not 100% sure how it stands today, but if the device is intended just for Linux I'd recommend one of the native Linux file-systems (ext4, btrfs spring to mind, or even use LVM dependong on use-case)
[15:34] <jzachary> yeah i def want to format it for linux, with it previously being formatted for HFS im just making sure im wiping and reformatting it correctly
[15:34] <EriC^^> i think he means if he should repartition
[15:34] <EriC^^> it wouldn't hurt i guess
[15:35] <EriC^^> sudo cgdisk /dev/...
[15:35] <EriC^^> and make a new partition with the hexcode 8300
[15:40] <ronin> hihi my desktop was restarted because of power failure, and now it's in the login screen, is there a way to login remotely that i can take a vnc connection to the machine?
[15:40] <ronin> I can get a SSH connection, but starting up a VNC server from terminal doesn't help, because it won't let me in before I have logged in to X
[15:41] <compdoc> ronin, you cant log in because you were using desktop sharing?
[15:42] <ronin> x11vnc
[15:42] <ronin> i can start up x11vnc server but when i try to log in it says connection refuses. it assumes that i have been logged to X
[15:43] <JustMozzy> hey everyone. was anyone able to install  L2TP over IPsec VPN Manager in ubuntu 14.10?
[15:49] <KellerQB> now what
[15:51] <stanreg> glxgears shows that I'm running at ~2500 FPS. Is that normal? Should it not be limited to the monitor's refresh rate?
[15:53] <LeEarl> hi
[15:53] <LeEarl> I did an update and the desktop item disappeared! Ubuntu Mate 14.04
[15:54] <nicomachus> LeEarl: what do you mean "desktop item"?
[15:54] <JustMozzy> seriously ubuntu can't crown itself anymore with userfriendlyness... ever since verion 10 things have gotten downhill :(
[15:55] <KellerQB> First attempt with irc
[15:55] <Gallomimia> version "ten"?
[15:55] <reisio> KellerQB: hi
[15:55] <cfhowlett> JustMozzy, less rant, more details.  or if your purpose is to merely rant: #ubuntu-offtopic . Thank you.
[15:55] <Gallomimia> i think you might have confused ubuntu with windows or mac
[15:56] <LeEarl> items = icons , sorry my bad.
[15:56] <cfhowlett> KellerQB, ask your #ubuntu questions
[15:56] <JustMozzy> cfhowlett: not ranting... I'm crying :P
[15:56] <LeEarl> desktop icons disappeared after update.
[15:56] <cfhowlett> JustMozzy, this ... really isn't the channel for tears.  :)
[15:56] <Gallomimia> my desktop icons are all kept in ~/Desktop are yours there?
[15:57] <ronin> this fixed my problem sudo /usr/bin/x11vnc -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -noxrecord -noxfixes -noxdamage -rfbauth /etc/x11vnc.pass -forever -bg -rfbport 5900 -o /tmp/x11vnc.log
[15:57] <ronin> now i can login righ to the x login screen (lightdm)
[15:57] <ronin> thanks guys
[15:57] <KellerQB> Thank cfhowlett, just installed irssi, looking for channel sources
[15:57] <cfhowlett> !alis | KellerQB
[15:57] <KellerQB> thanks
[15:58] <rsv> my laptop does not show icons on the desktop, when i saw the filesystem was full. i deleted some files. however, the avail space is still 0
[15:58] <cfhowlett> KellerQB, happy2help!
[15:58] <Gallomimia> what files did you delete?
[15:58] <KellerQB> you may regret it... I just tried the /msg and nothing changed
[15:58] <rsv> when i try to copy my filesystem to a usb harddisk - using "cp -rp" command. all the files are showing root permission
[15:58] <reisio> KellerQB: /msg alis list *ubunt*
[15:59] <Gallomimia> KellerQB: you probably don't see where the /msg window popped up
[15:59] <rsv> Gallomimia: i deleted some movies
[15:59] <cfhowlett> rsv, cp -rp?  not dd?
[15:59] <rsv> cfhowlett: yes cp -rp
[15:59] <reisio> https://wiki.debian.org/ReduceDebian
[15:59] <Gallomimia> rsv: what method did you use to delete them? did you put them in the recycle bin? are they still there?
[15:59] <KellerQB> I feel like an idiot...
[15:59] <reisio> KellerQB: that's life :)
[15:59] <rsv> Gallomimia: no there are not in recycle bin
[16:00] <Gallomimia> KellerQB: normal mistake. most of IRC has a no-PM-without-asking policy just because message windows pop under without being seen like that.
[16:00] <rsv> cfhowlett: after doign cp -rp. all files are showing root as owner and 0777 as permissions
[16:00] <rsv> what could be wrong.
[16:00] <reisio> I don't think they have a no-pm-without-asking policy, they have a don't be annoying policy
[16:00] <KellerQB> I only have the one terminal open..
[16:00] <reisio> the purpose of IRC after all is chatting
[16:00] <reisio> KellerQB: yes, and?
[16:01] <Gallomimia> reisio: i've seen many who don't like it
[16:01] <reisio> people who don't like chatting shouldn't be running a chat client :D
[16:01] <Gallomimia> rsv: this command should tell you some good information: df -h
[16:01] <Na3iL> LeEarl, → https://askubuntu.com/questions/483358/mate-menu-is-missing
[16:01] <cfhowlett> rsv, I've never seen or used cp to make an ubuntu USB.  Corry, can't help.
[16:01] <reisio> https://wiki.debian.org/ReduceDebian
[16:01] <rsv> Gallomimia: i am using that command only
[16:01] <ioria> rsv are you using sudo to cp the files ?
[16:02] <Na3iL> guys who uses his DE/environment awesome wm?
[16:02] <rsv> ioria: no
[16:02] <JustMozzy> Did anyone get a L2TP/IPSEC VPN client to work on Ubuntu 14.10?
[16:02] <reisio> Na3iL: various people use that wm
[16:02] <ioria> rsv the folder where the external hd is mounted is owned by who ?
[16:03] <LeEarl> Na3il the menu is fine but the desktop icons disappeared!
[16:03] <Na3iL> reisio, I want to make some statistics about ubuntu users had awesome wm already
[16:03] <reisio> Na3iL: sounds boring and pointless
[16:03] <Gallomimia> i'm still having trouble understanding rsv's problem. all i saw was that the hd is full?
[16:03] <Na3iL> I wonder reisio about making a projet like Ubuntu-gnome but Ubuntu-awesome wm
[16:03] <reisio> Na3iL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1387599
[16:04] <reisio> Na3iL: go ahead and make one
[16:04] <rsv> i did it manually by using root
[16:04] <Na3iL> I want some guys to help, kind of a team to work a head for this project
[16:04] <rsv> mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[16:04] <rsv> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[16:04] <Gallomimia> Na3iL: i suggest starting a project page and asking for members to join you
[16:04] <reisio> rsv: rsync -a foo/ bar/ is better for copying
[16:04] <reisio> especially if you care about the data
[16:05] <ioria> rsv yes, but must be owned by someone
[16:05] <Gallomimia> right over top of /mnt ??
[16:05] <Na3iL> Gallomimia, yup that's what I want, and I'd some skills on documentation on Wkikipages instead of my experience with ubuntu-gnome
[16:05] <ioria> rsv yes, if root mounted it... is root
[16:05] <reisio> Na3iL: usually a person must actually do some work on their own before people will follow them
[16:05] <Na3iL> but I need some pple here to help to go through with this project
[16:05] <reisio> not that you can't get suckers to follow you at any time, if you're charismatic enough
[16:05] <rsv> ircnode0: can a user mount
[16:05] <cfhowlett> reisio, yeah, folk are fickle that way ...
[16:06] <Gallomimia> rsv: yes but not to a mount point they don't own
[16:06] <Na3iL> LOL reisio fair enough, I'll go a head and make the wikipage for this project
[16:06] <cfhowlett> Na3iL, take your proposal to www.reddi.com/r/ubuntu
[16:06] <Na3iL> had u any good name for this team..
[16:06] <cfhowlett> *reddit*
[16:06] <Gallomimia> enjoy
[16:07] <reisio> Na3iL: Awbuntu
[16:07] <Gallomimia> rsv: can you back up and start again? what are you doing?
[16:07] <rsv> when i try to do that, i get the message "mount: only root can do that"
[16:07] <Gallomimia> yeah cause /mnt is owned by root
[16:07] <Na3iL> nice name reisio, any other suggestion..?
[16:08] <Na3iL> otherwise, like UbuntuAwesomers
[16:08] <rsv> Gallomimia: i created a new directory /tmp/rsv
[16:08] <rsv> and tried it man
[16:08] <EriC^^> rsv: you need sudo to use the command mount
[16:08] <EriC^^> unless it's in /etc/fstab and with the option user
[16:08] <Gallomimia> oh.
[16:08] <Na3iL> LeEarl, not solved yet?
[16:08] <Gallomimia> well there you go. also, plugging in any kind of media should auto mount it under /media/username/
[16:09] <LeEarl> no
[16:09] <Na3iL> try this command to restart your environment mate
[16:09] <Na3iL> udo apt-get install --reinstall mate-core mate-desktop-environment mate-desktop-environment-extras
[16:09] <ioria> rsv after mount , chown the folder
[16:11] <jzachary> ok…success finally! now to add to fstab…
[16:11] <LeEarl> Na3iL, u sure about that? I hope it does not cause more problems!
[16:12] <cfhowlett> that will install the desktop NOT restart the desktop
[16:12] <Na3iL> LeEarl, that command make u restart ur mate, otherwise u'd nothing to loose..
[16:13] <LeEarl> ok I will try then see! BRB
[16:15] <Gallomimia> Na3iL: i think maybe you should tell him to use dpkg-reconfigure and not apt-get install
[16:15] <skulltip> i created a launcher.sh and did chmod+x to make it executable. from Thunar file manager, opening or right-click and default is betaville. any simple file and it's associated with that. how do i break associations with betaville so i can make an executable script again??
[16:16] <Na3iL> Gallomimia, I think he should restart and install the extra mate plugins again..
[16:16] <Gallomimia> this implies removing them first... where's that command?
[16:17] <cfhowlett> Na3iL, too windowsy.   reconfiguring the installed pacakges should sort him.  then he can logout, select the other desktop manager session and login.
[16:17] <larryone> hi guys, I am having trouble with a service I'm trying to reload on 15.04.       `service haproxy reload` seems to behave very differently to `systemctl reload haproxy`
[16:17] <larryone> is there any way to figure out why?
[16:18] <EriC^^> larryone: you mean service haproxy restart?
[16:18] <larryone> no, reload.... I need to keep established connections alive
[16:18] <larryone> need a graceful restart
[16:18] <EriC^^> oh, no idea
[16:19] <LeEarl> ok thanx it worked
[16:19] <jiafanz> Hi, i use ubuntu 14.04 lts, is it possible to use kvm to install vm?
[16:20] <bekks> jiafanz: Yes.
[16:20] <jiafanz> bekks: any link of guidelines?
[16:21] <cfhowlett> !kvm | jiafanz
[16:21] <larryone> EriC^^, `service haproxy restart` seems to be ok
[16:22] <larryone> but a reload leaves the old process behind, still listening on port 80, and I end up with multiple processes listening on port 80 and causing non-deterministic behaviour
[16:22] <larryone> according to the /usr/sbin/service script:
[16:22] <larryone> # When this machine is running systemd, standard service calls are turned into
[16:22] <larryone> # systemctl calls.
[16:22] <jiafanz> larryone: how could that possible to have multiple processes listening on the same port
[16:23] <larryone> but it doesn't seem to do what I expect
[16:23] <larryone> jiafanz, I was wondering that too
[16:23] <larryone> fitst time i've seen such a thing
[16:23] <larryone> and yet
[16:23] <jiafanz> larryone: the kernel shall prevent that
[16:24] <larryone> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*              LISTEN      12652/haproxy
[16:24] <larryone> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*              LISTEN      12631/haproxy
[16:24] <larryone> it was happening, and I was getting responses from both processes
[16:24] <skulltip> i right click to create an empty file, it's associated as notepad file. there is no execute options for thunar file manager.
[16:24] <larryone> I'm suspecting systemd
[16:24] <jiafanz> larryone: ah.... i think it is some sort of high availability process
[16:24] <larryone> jiafanz, it could be a haproxy specific thing
[16:25] <larryone> but it's something that a reload really shouldn't do
[16:25] <jiafanz> larryone: quite possibly
[16:25] <jiafanz> larryone: like an ative-backup process
[16:25] <EriC^^> larryone: try systemctl restart haproxy
[16:25] <larryone> but I can't figure out why a `service haproxy reload`  doesn't do a proper translation into a systemctl call
[16:25] <larryone> EriC^^, I can do than manually, but puppet cannot!
[16:26] <larryone> puppet needs to be OS version agnostic
[16:26] <EriC^^> larryone: post the service script in paste.ubuntu.com
[16:26] <rsv> sorry, i got disconnected
[16:27] <dependencies> Hi guys. Question time:
[16:28] <dependencies> Running apt-get install ubuntu-mate-core, I'm getting this: http://pastebin.com/s70y4Xjc
[16:28] <dependencies> Why wont it install any of the dependencies on its onw?
[16:28] <skulltip> ok found my answer.. spent a little too much time away on windows, thought i was hacked  :P
[16:28] <larryone> EriC^^, it's the one that comes with 15.04, unaltered:
[16:28] <larryone> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11925910/
[16:29] <larryone> the systemd related stuff is the last section
[16:31] <EriC^^> larryone: check line 212
[16:31] <larryone> yup, reload secion
[16:32] <larryone> so if systemctl tells it that it can reload, then it should issue the command I want
[16:33] <jiafanz> larryone: maybe puppet has issues of using systemctl
[16:33] <larryone> jiafanz, puppet calles the /usr/sbin/service script
[16:34] <larryone> which on 12.04 and 14.04 calls upstart stuff
[16:34] <larryone> but on 15.04 it should call systemd stuff
[16:34] <larryone> but in this case it doesn't like it
[16:36] <EriC^^> larryone: try sudo sh -x service haproxy reload
[16:37] <EriC^^> larryone: or sudo sh -x $(which service) haproxy reload
[16:40] <EriC^^> larryone: paste in paste.ubuntu.com if you want
[16:42] <Spartacle> Hey guys, I brought a HP stream 13 and suffering my random wireless disconnects, usually switching aeroplane mode off and on gets my back online
[16:42] <Spartacle> but I have no idea how to troubleshoot, dmesg doesnt show anything obvious
[16:42] <larryone> EriC^^, frustrating, I can't reproduce the problem now  =0(
[16:43] <larryone> EriC^^, I put in echo statements in and around that reload section, and the output suggests that it's doing the translation correctly
[16:43] <larryone> grrr
[16:43] <larryone> I think I need to give up for today
[16:44] <larryone> am going to go run around in the grass with my wife and my daughter and get a nights sleep. will revisit this shite tomorrow
[16:44] <larryone> EriC^^, thanks for your help, will let you know how I get on tomorrow
[16:44] <EriC^^> larryone: well, at least it's working now, ok have a good one
[16:45] <EriC^^> np, ok
[16:45] <OhYash> Hey everyone, Wassup?
[16:46] <riobe> I'm trying to install ubuntu and I want to put /home, /usr/local, and /opt all on a different drive than the rest of Linux. I'd rather not make 3 partitions (one for each with it as the mount point) because I don't want to specify a max size for each folder. Is there a way to put those 3 directories on a different drive other than giving them each a sized partition?
[16:46] <Fuuzetsu> Is there an easy way to use a package from trusty on a precise box? Needs to be doable through CLI without human-interaction (it's a CI box). The package in question is libzmq3-dev.
[16:46] <OhYash> Hows mate panel for a WM standalone desktop? I'm looking for a good-looking panel with systray and indicators support?
[16:46] <riobe> A friend was suggesting I try deleting the three folders from my ubuntu install, and then making them symbolic links to folders on the other drive. Not sure if that's a good or bad idea.
[16:47] <cfhowlett> riobe, bad idea.  BAD
[16:47] <EriC^^> riobe: i think lvm allows you to expand easily, but it's hard to make them smaller, could be wrong though
[16:47] <reisio> riobe: just tell /etc/fstab they're there
[16:47] <riobe> I'll look into LVM and fstab then. Not sure how to use those.
[16:47] <riobe> Thanks for the feedback.
[16:48] <reisio> riobe: pretty straightforward, /etc/fstab has some information itself, and man fstab some more
[16:49] <riobe> Out of curiosity, what would the be the danger of deleting them and making them symbolic links?
[16:49] <riobe> I'm not sure why that would be bad.
[16:50] <reisio> riobe: try it and see
[16:50] <EriC^^> riobe: how would you mount them before making the symbolic link work
[16:50] <EriC^^> riobe: that's what fstab does anyways, except it'll mount them under certain dirs,
[16:50] <riobe> Was just planning on installing all of linux on the first drive, going to root, deleting them, then putting symbolic links where they were.
[16:51] <riobe> If fstab basically handles that for me in a non-hacky way though, I'll just read about that till I understand how to use it
[16:51] <EriC^^> so it'll be mounted under /home /usr/local and /opt
[16:51] <EriC^^> riobe: yeah, just make sure you use the uuid's of the partitions and not /dev/sdxY
[16:51] <riobe> Good to know, thanks for the tip. :D
[16:52] <EriC^^> np
[16:53] <EriC^^> riobe: don't delete them after installing, use rsync to copy them to the partitions then add to fstab
[16:53] <EriC^^> better yet use them in the manual partitioner during the installation
[16:54] <riobe> I'm in installer right now (on the computer I want to install in), but if I made each of those directories a partition, then I have to give them a max size
[16:54] <riobe> And I didn't want to have to pick sizes. I wanted all 3 folders to be able to grow until the disk was out of room
[16:55] <EriC^^> riobe: then make each partition span the whole disk
[16:55] <riobe> I can do that? O.o I'll try that now
[16:55] <TJ-> Sounds like a job for LVM
[16:56] <riobe> Once I make a primary partition for /home, I cannot make another one for either of the other folders if it takes the whole drive.
[16:56] <reisio> riobe: something else you can do is make your two separate disks appear as one
[16:56] <EriC^^> riobe: aren't you making /home /usr/local and /opt on 3 separate disks?
[16:57] <riobe> No, on the same. I have 1 disk I want to put the kernel on, and 1 disk I want to put those 3 directories on
[16:57] <EriC^^> oh, ok
[16:57] <riobe> So I mounted / on my smaller disk, and I want to put /home /usr/locl and /opt on the other
[16:58] <riobe> I'm reading about LVM right now to see if I can understand enough to figure out how to do that from the installer if that would solve what I'm trying to do
[16:59] <riobe> It's a laptop with a 128gb ssd, and I put in a 512ssd. So I want ubuntu on the little one, and all my data stuff on the other drive.
[16:59] <reisio> riobe: why'd you want them on a different drive, again?
[16:59] <reisio> ah
[16:59] <reisio> well all your data should be in /home/
[16:59] <riobe> I figure I'll likely install quite a lot of software too though, which will likely go into /opt, right?
[17:00] <EriC^^> riobe: from the repositories, no
[17:00] <riobe> I wanted to be able to put that on the larger drive as well
[17:00] <EriC^^> riobe: most of the software will be in /usr
[17:00] <riobe> Things like IntelliJ IDEA, Unreal Engine 4, steam games, etc
[17:00] <EriC^^> /usr/local is for stuff you compiled and not from the repositories
[17:01] <EriC^^> oh
[17:01] <reisio> you want software to be fast, though
[17:01] <riobe> I'm a coder (used to Windows, wanting to move to Linux) so I figure I'll be compiling a lot from source and making my own stuff, which is why I figured I'd put /usr/local off with /opt and /home on the larger drive.
[17:01] <reisio> 128GB is plenty
[17:01] <riobe> They're both ssd's
[17:01] <reisio> I don't think I'd even bother putting /home on the second drive
[17:01] <reisio> I'd just put huge files there at my leisure
[17:02] <reisio> I mean 128GB is going to start you off with something around 115-120 GB free on the drive
[17:02] <reisio> if you put the entire OS and /home/ on it
[17:02] <reisio> and then you'll have the second drive on top
[17:02] <reisio> you might be overthinking this
[17:02] <riobe> If my experience on my home pc with windows is any indication, I'll eat that pretty fast with games, unreal, ide's, etc
[17:03] <reisio> Windows apps take up more space
[17:03] <reisio> because they all install their own redundant deps
[17:03] <reisio> but suit yourself
[17:03] <riobe> If it's not possible, then I can just make my 3 partitions and deal with it. I just wanted to know if it was possible to have those 3 folders be on a different drive together and all have access to all the space.
[17:03] <reisio> yup, lots of ways to do that
[17:04] <riobe> I'm a Linux newbie, so I'm still learning what good practices are.
[17:04] <reisio> well, people might yell at you for various things
[17:04] <reisio> but this will always be true: if it works it works
[17:05] <riobe> lol, true
[17:07] <TechMonger> anyone have any good resources for learning about kickstarter files?
[17:11] <youzuzz> You live your whole life in your head.
[17:11] <TechMonger> lol wtf
[17:12] <Fatar> It's kinda true
[17:13] <reisio> also, you live your whole life in my head
[17:13] <reisio> :p
[17:13] <youzuzz> You never leave your mind
[17:16] <baja> hi i want to format flash
[17:16] <baja> flash disk
[17:16] <reisio> baja: why?
[17:16] <baja> help
[17:16] <TechMonger> lol
[17:17] <baja> its 15 gb free but its telling me it has no space
[17:17] <baja> i guess its a virus
[17:18] <baja> reisio:
[17:18] <phroa`> baja: you sure there's not just a hidden trash folder
[17:18] <baja> how?
[17:19] <phroa`> baja: what file manager do you use
[17:19] <Fatar> maybe it's fragmented or something?
[17:19] <reisio> baja: why do you want to format it?
[17:19] <baja> i dont know..
[17:19] <phroa`> reisio: phantom free space
[17:20] <baja> i dont know..my file manager
[17:20] <reisio> so you don't want to format it
[17:20] <reisio> baja: what makes you think it has 15GB free
[17:20] <baja> so that it can allow me to store movie inside
[17:20] <reisio> baja: what makes you think it has 15GB free?
[17:20] <baja> its my flash i know
[17:20] <baja> duh??
[17:21] <Fatar> Yeah it's fragmented
[17:21] <baja> right click and properties shows its 15 gb
[17:21] <phroa`> Fatar: if he's calculating free space in his mind based on what files he thinks he put in there, I'm still leaning toward .Trashes folder
[17:21] <baja> resio:
[17:21] <baja> right click and properties shows its 15 gb
[17:21] <baja> resio:
[17:21] <phroa`> Fatar: never mind, continue :3
[17:22] <Fatar> phroa`: Ahah i'm totally bad at explanations go ahead, last time I had this issue I cried
[17:22] <reisio> baja: that could be its already-used total capacity
[17:22] <reisio> baja: what does 'df -h' say about it, after you've mounted it?
[17:23] <phroa`> reisio: it's going to be hard for him to answer you
[17:24] <baja> let me go to terminal first and df-h
[17:28] <baja> how do i df-h
[17:28] <baja> my flashdisk
[17:28] <phroa`> baja: you literally write "df -h". you can target a path with "df -h /path/to/where/you/want/to/measure"
[17:30] <baja> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[17:30] <baja> /dev/sdb1        15G   15G  488K 100% /media/baja/LETHALDICK
[17:30] <reisio> heh
[17:30] <phroa`> k
[17:30] <reisio> baja: that says it's full
[17:30] <reisio> 15G total, 15G used
[17:30] <reisio> 100% use
[17:30] <phroa`> baja: you were reading the "free space" and "used space" backwards
[17:30] <baja> but it has nothing lol
[17:30] <stacks88> so ive got this openvz container that runs ubuntu 14.04 and im trying to get it so that it automatically updates the packages , and on https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/automatic-updates.html it says to install unattended-upgrades which i did, but then it says to enable automatic updates, edit /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic -- when i ran nano /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic the file was
[17:30] <stacks88> empty.. is this normal? or is it suppose to be empty / and i put in the stuff that the link tells me to
[17:30] <baja> no files inside
[17:31] <reisio> baja: what makes you think it has no files
[17:31] <baja> you see thats why i need to format
[17:31] <phroa`> baja: pastebin the output of `du -h /media/baja/LETHALDICK`?
[17:31] <Fuuzetsu> re: my earlier question, I managed with pinning, thanks
[17:31] <phroa`> (du is a more fine-grained df)
[17:31] <baja> ok
[17:31] <reisio> find /media/baja/LETHALDICK -type f -exec du -hs {} \;
[17:32] <phroa`> reisio: pretty sure du is recursive by default
[17:32] <phroa`> or am I misreading what that does? :P
[17:32] <reisio> phroa`: that won't help him find files he thinks aren't there
[17:32] <reisio> we already know it's full
[17:32] <reisio> du of the dir will only say it again
[17:32] <phroa`> du shows sizes of all the files.
[17:32] <baja> i have pastebin
[17:33] <reisio> phroa`: nope
[17:33] <baja> http://pastebin.com/CYagcRsw
[17:33] <reisio> baja: we already saw that
[17:33] <baja> but its gat nothing inside
[17:33] <stacks88> also everything in my /etc/cron.daily is listed as disabled.. i.e apt.disabled , why is this
[17:33] <phroa`> reisio: does for me (on mac, albeit). am I being stupid again?
[17:33] <baja> is that a virus
[17:33] <reisio> baja: find /media/baja/LETHALDICK -type f -exec du -hs {} \;
[17:34] <reisio> phroa`: dunno, who knows what a Mac does
[17:34] <reisio> baja: very few people have seen a virus in years and years
[17:34] <reisio> what you're thinking of is "malware"
[17:34] <reisio> and you have no reason to suspect that, either, yet
[17:34] <stacks88> https://bugs.launchpad.net/serverguide/+bug/1031091 does this mean ubuntu is going to shit?
[17:35] <baja> the terminal is going matrix
[17:35] <baja> on me
[17:35] <reisio> stacks88: maybe if it's a real bug and is never closed
[17:35] <reisio> stacks88: if it's closed probably means the opposite
[17:35] <reisio> baja: then it found a lot of files
[17:35] <baja> reisio:
[17:35] <reisio> baja: files taking up space
[17:36] <baja> but i have deleted all files on flash disk
[17:36] <reisio> baja: no, you have not
[17:36] <baja> reisio
[17:36] <baja> how do i convince yu reisio
[17:36] <reisio> baja: pastebinit the output of the command I gave you
[17:36] <reisio> you can't convince me, I trust df
[17:37] <reisio> I can, however, convince you
[17:37] <baja> its tooo long
[17:37] <baja> many files
[17:37] <stacks88> but that link is suggesting the documentation is out of date.. which brings me back to my original question, the documentation tells me to edit /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic , which that file doesnt even exist.. And on that launchpad link ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/serverguide/+bug/1031091 ) they seem to be talking about how the documentation is out of date
[17:37] <reisio> baja: just the last few lines, then
[17:38] <stacks88> so if the documentation is out of date and its 3 years later, that is kind of disconcerting
[17:38] <zxz_> hello i am using lubuntu and i have big problem with skype and pulseaudio. i don't have any sound from skype and i cant install pulseaudio, because it says there are broken packages
[17:39] <reisio> stacks88: IME all distros suffer from out of date documentation
[17:39] <mgs4> hi have a question, im using ubuntu 14.04 and when im on a webpage and have my voip headset in, if i press the mute button on the headset it makes the webpages go back a page no matter what browser i use any help would be great
[17:39] <reisio> mgs4: neat
[17:39] <stacks88> okay .. well do you happen to know the answer to this? Im trying to get unattended upgrades going on my ubuntu 14.04..after installing unattended-upgrades , do i need to enable the unattended upgrades, , if so how? the documentation says edit /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic , which that file doesnt even exist..so im trying to figure out is that normal, or do i not need to enable anything and
[17:39] <stacks88> its already enabled simply by installing unattended-upgrades
[17:39] <baja> http://pastebin.com/X89kYpWn
[17:40] <baja> reisio
[17:40] <baja> http://pastebin.com/X89kYpWn
[17:40] <stacks88> or do i need to create that file
[17:40] <michaelaguiar> How can I make it so that when a user creates a new directory, that all users in that group can write to it?
[17:40] <stacks88> or is it a different file now
[17:40] <tgm4883> mgs4: I had a similiar issue with my plantronics headset.
[17:40] <reisio> baja: okay, you deleted your files, but not really, they went to the disk's trash bin
[17:40] <reisio> baja: so they're all still there
[17:40] <mgs4> anyway around it
[17:40] <baja> thats not normal
[17:40] <reisio> baja: it can be, it depends
[17:40] <baja> so how do i clean
[17:41] <reisio> baja: rm -fr /media/baja/LETHALDICK/.Trash*; df -h
[17:41] <mgs4> i have tried a few other headsets and its the same
[17:41] <tgm4883> mgs4: I had to configure the plantroics headset in xorg.conf to not be an input device (input devince in this instance would be like a keyboard/mouse)
[17:41] <stacks88> nevermind figured it out, guess i needed to install update-notifier-common
[17:41] <mgs4> makes sense
[17:41] <baja> then?
[17:41] <stacks88> which would have been nice if the doc said that, but wahtever guess its all free so i shouldnt complain
[17:41] <baja> reisio
[17:42] <reisio> baja: then df -h will probably tell you that Use% is 0
[17:42] <reisio> instead of 100%
[17:42] <baja> its showing file system
[17:42] <baja> how do i clean
[17:42] <reisio> baja: clean what?
[17:42] <zxz_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11926214/
[17:42] <tonyyarusso> mode -b *!*@205.189.187.4
[17:42] <baja> delete the files i need space
[17:43] <reisio> baja: rm -fr /media/baja/LETHALDICK/.Trash*; df -h | grep -i lethal
[17:43] <GitGud> i'm back
[17:43] <reisio> wb
[17:43] <GitGud> :)
[17:43] <mgs4> @tgh4883 any tips on how to do it is there any write ups
[17:43] <GitGud> ban filter hit my library IP
[17:43] <baja> is that all
[17:43] <baja> reisio
[17:44] <GitGud> cause someone was trolling from this library at one point
[17:44] <mgs4> can anyone upload it to a paste bin on how to do it
[17:44] <michaelaguiar> anyone have an idea?
[17:44] <reisio> baja: if it says it's using 0%, that's all
[17:44] <mgs4> tgm4883:
[17:44] <baja> cool bro
[17:45] <baja> thanks alot reisio
[17:45] <reisio> I wonder if they were actually rejoining, warranting more than a nick ban
[17:45] <reisio> baja: np
[17:45] <baja> :)
[17:46] <HIP_TANAKA> hey, all - would anybody happen to know how to resolve "could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives" when using synaptic package manager?
[17:46] <HIP_TANAKA> assuming this is a help channel :/
[17:46] <reisio> HIP_TANAKA: isn't that the error you get if you're trying to use more than one package manager simultaneously?
[17:46] <tgm4883> mgs4: This is what I did to fix mine http://www.rodneybeede.com/Plantronics_Savi_7xx-M_and_Linux_mouse_or_lockup_problems.html
[17:47] <Serghio> hi
[17:47] <HIP_TANAKA> reisio: i assumed it was, but i am not running apt in any other instances
[17:47] <HIP_TANAKA> i just booted up
[17:47] <HIP_TANAKA> also i am running LXLE in a virtual machine if that helps
[17:47] <ioria> HIP_TANAKA, update is running, maybe
[17:47] <reisio> HIP_TANAKA: yeah might be automatic update manager
[17:47] <HIP_TANAKA> ioria: that is what i assumed.. checking ps now
[17:47] <reisio> lsof /var/cache/apt/archives
[17:47] <Serghio> help me ?
[17:47] <michaelaguiar> I am trying to set the permissions for all new files and folders to be writeable by the group, how can I do this?
[17:47] <Serghio> I can not install a znc in my vps because it says that I need copilador c ++ and g ++
[17:48] <phroa`> Serghio: znc lists the packages you need to install last I checked
[17:48] <reisio> Serghio: znc is in universe: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&suite=all&section=all&keywords=znc
[17:48] <bilb_ono> how can I get into the grub menu? holding Shift and escape don’t seem to be working…
[17:48] <Serghio> checking whether the C++ compiler works... no
[17:48] <Serghio> configure: error: in `/home/Zurdo/znc-1.6.0':
[17:48] <Serghio> configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[17:48] <Serghio> :S
[17:48] <reisio> michaelaguiar: chown
[17:48] <reisio> Serghio: znc is in universe: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&suite=all&section=all&keywords=znc
[17:49] <Serghio> install that?
[17:49] <michaelaguiar> reisio: so all new files created by a user are owned by that user, and a specific group
[17:49] <michaelaguiar> all other users are in that group
[17:49] <mcphail> bilb_ono: tried the right-shift key?
[17:49] <michaelaguiar> but when that user creates a directory, no one else can write to that directory, even though its the same group
[17:49] <bilb_ono> nope only the left, ill try that
[17:49] <sirEgghead> I just installed Ubuntu 15.04 fresh yesterday.  I have 2x Radeon HD 6870s and 3 monitors.  2 are connected via DVI and 1 via HDMI.  When my mouse is on one of the two monitors connected via DVI, it flickers very badly.  It operates fine on the HDMI monitor.  I have found online where it says to remove the unknown display, but I do not have any displays other than the 3 real monitors.
[17:50] <michaelaguiar> reisio: I don’t want to change permissions every time a user creates a new file or folder
[17:50] <HIP_TANAKA> maybe something about the refresh rate
[17:50] <sirEgghead> It's only the mouse cursor that flickers.
[17:50] <mgs4> cheers mate
[17:50] <HIP_TANAKA> that is a weird one, sireebob
[17:50] <bilb_ono> rats. still not booting the grub menu
[17:50] <HIP_TANAKA> sirEgghead*
[17:51] <HIP_TANAKA> i managed to install lubuntu 15 alongside of windows 8
[17:51] <HIP_TANAKA> and they both boot fine..
[17:51] <sirEgghead> HIP_TANAKA: yeah it looks horrible when I'm using my RDP client.  The background is blocky rather than transparent.
[17:51] <HIP_TANAKA> pain in the butt though
[17:52] <Serghio> I Have Ubuntu 12
[17:52] <Serghio> need coopiler c++
[17:52] <Serghio> -.-
[17:52] <HIP_TANAKA> heh
[17:52] <HIP_TANAKA> you need a c++ compiler?
[17:52] <julian-delphiki> Serghio: I would `apt-get install build-essential`
[17:52] <mcphail> Serghio: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[17:52] <reisio> Serghio: install it
[17:52] <Serghio> ok go
[17:52] <HIP_TANAKA> same
[17:52] <ioria> !info znc
[17:52] <reisio> Serghio: you don't need to compile it, just install it
[17:53] <Serghio> ok and install for g++
[17:53] <Serghio> ?
[17:53] <ioria> !info znc precise
[17:53] <julian-delphiki> Serghio: that installs everything you need
[17:53] <HIP_TANAKA> make will compile it for you, champ
[17:53] <Serghio> ok
[17:53] <reisio> he doesn't
[17:53] <bilb_ono> is there a way to get into the terminal from the window that boots when you press F12?
[17:53] <reisio> need
[17:53] <reisio> to compile
[17:53] <bilb_ono> or the one time boot menu
[17:53] <HIP_TANAKA> you guys were right about the updater - it was running but stopped
[17:53] <julian-delphiki> reisio: please use one line for your responses. :)
[17:54] <reisio> HIP_TANAKA: cool
[17:54] <HIP_TANAKA> also: this is the first time in about twenty years that i have come on a help channel and actually received help
[17:54] <reisio> julian-delphiki: one line clearly was not sufficing
[17:54] <HIP_TANAKA> so, thanks for that ! :)
[17:54] <HIP_TANAKA> have a good day!
[17:54] <bilb_ono> I see you edit the grub config file if shift is not working to load the grub menu, but idk how to get to a terminal in order to edit it
[17:54] <ka1n> Hi. I have some trouble with segates 8TB smr hdd "ST8000AS0002". Getting ata errors frozen on ext4 fs. Im runing vivid kernel 3.19.0-16. Would it help adding kernel 4.1.3 or how do i get around this ?
[17:54] <reisio> bilb_ono: CTRL+ALT+t
[17:55] <bilb_ono> reisio: as its booting?
[17:55] <reisio> bilb_ono: nope
[17:55] <reisio> bilb_ono: you can't get the grub screen to load?
[17:55] <bilb_ono> no
[17:56] <Serghio> update-alternatives: using /usr/bin/g++ to provide /usr/bin/c++ (c++) in auto mode.
[17:56] <Serghio> Setting up build-essential (11.5ubuntu2.1) ...
[17:56] <Serghio> Is all?
[17:56] <reisio> bilb_ono: does the OS boot?
[17:56] <bilb_ono> neither shift key nor escape seems to work
[17:56] <reisio> Serghio: you don't need build-essential
[17:56] <reisio> Serghio: pay attention
[17:56] <Serghio> ok
[17:56] <bilb_ono> reisio: it gets frozen on the purple ubuntu screen with 5 orange circles under it, like its just loading forever
[17:56] <reisio> Serghio: znc is an ordinary package in the 'universe' repo, you can install it without compiling it, like any other package
[17:56] <reisio> bilb_ono: CTRL+ALT+F2?
[17:57] <bilb_ono> its this problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/477247/ubuntu-12-04-stuck-at-boot-splash-screen but I can’t try the solution because I can’t get into the grub menu
[17:57] <bilb_ono> idk Ill try ctrl alt f2
[17:58] <sirEgghead> I just installed Ubuntu 15.04 fresh yesterday.  I have 2x Radeon HD 6870s and 3 monitors.  2 are connected via DVI and 1 via HDMI.  When my mouse is on one of the two monitors connected via DVI, the cursor flickers very badly.  It operates fine on the HDMI monitor.  I have found online where it says to remove the unknown display, but I do not have any displays other than the 3 real monitors.
[17:58] <bilb_ono> reisio: that took me into the BIOS setup, but just F2 does that alone anyways
[17:58] <mcphail> ka1n: I would blame the disk, the SATA cable, the power supply or the motherboard before blaming the filesystem. I don't think a new kernel is likely to be the answer
[17:58] <ioria> bilb_ono, with shift after post sometimes you have to be a bit persistent
[17:58] <reisio> bilb_ono: no, CTRL+ALT+F2 when you're at the purple screen
[17:58] <Serghio> go to install znc universe
[17:58] <Serghio> wget  please . some hae?
[17:59] <mcphail> ka1n: in saying that, it is easy to swap kernels to check
[17:59] <Serghio> have  wget?
[17:59] <bilb_ono> ioria: what do you mean? I was just holding it, how can you get more persistant than that?
[17:59] <reisio> sirEgghead: try another cable first
[17:59] <sirEgghead> reisio: I have.  This happens on both DVI monitors.
[17:59] <ioria> bilb_ono, weel, got the same prob yesterday .... 4 times to make grub shows up
[17:59] <reisio> Serghio: sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $(lsb_release -sc) universe"; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install znc
[18:00] <bilb_ono> weel is a person?
[18:00] <Serghio> ok
[18:00] <ioria> *well
[18:00] <reisio> sirEgghead: does it happen if you have only one dvi monitor connected?
[18:00] <bilb_ono> oh i see. and you just had to press it more?
[18:00] <reisio> tapping works better
[18:00] <reisio> lots of tapping
[18:00] <bilb_ono> yeah ctrl alt f2 doesn’t do anything
[18:00] <reisio> like you're playing an old arcade game
[18:00] <sirEgghead> reisio: Don't think so.  I had one connected to begin with before I finished setting everything up.  I had to reinstall with all 3 hooked up to get it all to work properly.
[18:01] <reisio> sirEgghead: "Don't think so" doesn't inspire confidence :)
[18:01] <ioria> bilb_ono, right after post, just press more times ...
[18:02] <bilb_ono> gah. not fast enough i guess. this is ridiculous
[18:02] <sirEgghead> reisio: Ok, let me rephrase.  Going off of memory, it works properly with just one monitor hooked up via DVI.  However, I am working currently and it is more of an inconvenience to disconnect 2 monitors than it is to go off of my memory and/or deal with the flickering.
[18:02] <reisio> bilb_ono: yup
[18:02] <sirEgghead> reisio: Last time I unhooked one of the monitors, I couldn't get my display working properly again.
[18:02] <reisio> sirEgghead: ah, thought you said it wasn't working on one
[18:02] <sirEgghead> >.>
[18:03] <reisio> maybe your card just sucks at powering that many monitors
[18:03] <sirEgghead> reisio: Works fine in Windows and in Linux Mint.
[18:03] <reisio> okay
[18:03] <reisio> do you have the mint install still?
[18:03] <sirEgghead> reisio: No, I wiped it yesterday.
[18:03] <reisio> okay, well
[18:03] <reisio> it was probably using a different driver/version or kernel/version
[18:03] <Serghio> reisio
[18:03] <Serghio> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[18:04] <reisio> Serghio: far out
[18:04] <julian-delphiki> Serghio: we don't really need the play by play.
[18:04] <Serghio> now?
[18:04] <julian-delphiki> Serghio: if you did all the commands he said, znc should work now.
[18:04] <sirEgghead> reisio: "maybe" and "probably" doesn't inspire confidence.  :)
[18:05] <Serghio> look
[18:05] <Serghio> configure: No compiler with C++11 support was found
[18:05] <Serghio> configure: error: Either upgrade your compiler, or use ZNC 1.4
[18:05] <Serghio> -.-
[18:05] <Serghio> znc 1.4
[18:05] <Serghio> OLD VERSION
[18:05] <sirEgghead> Silence!  I keel you!
[18:06] <sirEgghead> lol
[18:06] <bilb_ono> awesome! it was escape, not shift
[18:06] <Serghio> thnx
[18:06] <bilb_ono> but actually idk, it just says grub> _
[18:07] <teward> Serghio: I have a PPA that has builds... they use the newer toolchains but ehh
[18:07] <bilb_ono> like a grub terminal, not a grub menu
[18:07] <Serghio> ok
[18:07] <bilb_ono> is there a way to launch the grub menu from the grub terminal?
[18:07] <ioria> bilb_ono, it's the GRUB SHELL
[18:08] <bilb_ono> ioria: ah ok grub shell. can I launch the menu from here?
[18:08] <teward> Serghio: https://launchpad.net/~teward/+archive/ubuntu/znc if you want to use it, but no guarantees about compatibility.  (It has 1.6.0 in there, i probably need to push a new build though, because the toolchain issues can break znc-buildmod)
[18:08] <TJ-> bilb_ono: try "help" - do you get scrolling list of commands?
[18:08] <ioria> bilb_ono, i'm afraid not
[18:08] <bilb_ono> yeah
[18:08] <Serghio> teward  is ur file?
[18:08] <bilb_ono> well thats just great. Can I remove the “splash and quiet” entries from the kernel command line?
[18:09] <TJ-> bilb_ono: Try "set" - that should report environment variables, the import ones being "prefix" and "root"
[18:09] <ioria> bilb_ono, in some way it's not finding the kernel to load
[18:09] <teward> Serghio: the packages in that PPA are indeed done by myself, based off of Debian, but the actual Ubuntu toolchains used are in a separate PPA.  I have a question though: what Ubuntu are you on?
[18:09] <Serghio> ok
[18:09] <Serghio> thnx
[18:09] <Serghio> ubuntu 12
[18:10] <Serghio> thnx
[18:10] <bilb_ono> ioria: this was just working. I reboot it and it stops finding the kernel?
[18:10] <julian-delphiki> Serghio: btw, saying ubuntu 12 is not too useful. is it 12.04 or 12.10?\
[18:10] <Serghio> yes 12.04
[18:11] <bilb_ono> set prefix gives (hd0,gpt2)/boot/grub, set root=hd0, gpt2
[18:11] <ioria> bilb_ono, follow TJ-
[18:12] <TJ-> bilb_ono: OK, that tells us that the /boot/grub/ directory is supposed to be in partition #2 of hard-disk 0
[18:12] <Serghio> is done
[18:12] <Serghio> thnx guys!
[18:12] <Serghio> so much!
[18:12] <TJ-> bilb_ono: if you ended up at the grub prompt that suggests the files expected to be there, are missing, or those settings are incorrect
[18:12] <Serghio> teward , reisio , julian-delphiki and all
[18:12] <Serghio> thnx!
[18:13] <ioria> bilb_ono, changed the partition table ?
[18:13] <TJ-> bilb_ono: I missed out on what the original problem is - without intercepting GRUB does the system load a kernel at all?
[18:14] <reisio> hitting esc doesn't always yield a grub prompt?
[18:14] <bilb_ono> i didn’t do anything I hope. i just installed it following the steps, it worked fine, now when I press restart, it does this
[18:14] <bilb_ono> http://askubuntu.com/questions/477247/ubuntu-12-04-stuck-at-boot-splash-screen which is the original problem
[18:14] <TJ-> bilb_ono: what Ubuntu release is installed? curent GRUB v2 uses the Shift key to get the menu; Escape was with GRUB v1
[18:14] <bilb_ono> 12.04
[18:15] <TJ-> bilb_ono: OK ... could be GRUB v1 then, so my memory of the required commands are very rusty... however, lets try the ones I know for GRUB v2: type "insmod normal"
[18:16] <bilb_ono> seems to be no output
[18:16] <reisio> thought he was at a prompt and not a menu
[18:16] <TJ-> bilb_ono: as long as there is no error message we're good
[18:16] <TJ-> bilb_ono: now type "normal" and you *should* see the grub menu
[18:16] <ioria> set prefix=(hd0,1)/boot/grub    set root=(hd0,1) insmod normal   normal  ... stuff like that
[18:17] <bilb_ono> hmm no it just goes back to that purple ubuntu screen with the 5 orange circles
[18:17] <TJ-> bilb_ono: That means GRUB has loaded the linux kernel... press Escape now to get rid of the splash screen, see what messages are there/appear
[18:18]  * TJ- thinks that the kernel upgrade broke the initrd.img, possibly due to lack of space in /boot/
[18:18] <ioria> right
[18:18] <TJ-> bilb_ono: Have you already tried to boot from an older kernel image, by selecting one from the GRUB boot menu?
[18:18] <bilb_ono> is that something I did? the kernel upgrade? escape seems to not be working
[18:19] <bilb_ono> i cant get to the grub boot menu. thats one of my goals
[18:19] <TJ-> bilb_ono: OK, don't worry too much, if there's a problem the kernel may have frozen
[18:19] <ioria> bilb_ono, no live usb available ?
[18:19] <bilb_ono> no I do have 2 live usb’s in fact
[18:20] <bilb_ono> live meaning there is an ubuntu iso image on it ?
[18:20] <ioria> bilb_ono, yeah
[18:21] <TJ-> bilb_ono: OK ... when the system starts if it has GRUB v1 the interrupt key is Escape - Precise 12.04 has GRUB v1 by default
[18:21] <bilb_ono> ok. yeah escape worked to get into the grub shell
[18:22] <ablest1980> hello need some help
[18:22] <TJ-> bilb_ono: OK, we need to get you into the menu without GRUB auto-booting the default entry, so you can select an older kernel
[18:22] <nicomachus> !ask | ablest1980
[18:22] <ablest1980> ‎want to change ablestx@ablestx-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ to ablest1980@ablest1980-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ in terminal
[18:23] <TJ-> bilb_ono: My problem is, the 12.04 system I have here is using GRUB v2 so I can't quickly replicate your scenario
[18:23] <nicomachus> ablest1980: you may find this helpful: https://askubuntu.com/questions/34074/how-do-i-change-my-username
[18:24] <ablest1980> k ty
[18:24] <bilb_ono> ok. and i can’t switch to grub v2 easily?
[18:24] <TJ-> bilb_ono: With GRUB v2 if you do "insmod normal"  and then "normal" you should see the boot menu and GRUB should wait for your input; it should *not* auto-start the default entry
[18:25] <TJ-> bilb_ono: at the grub prompt does "ver" report the GRUB version?
[18:26] <bilb_ono> no it doesn’t like that, error: unknown command ‘ver’
[18:26] <bilb_ono> same with version and -v
[18:27] <TJ-> bilb_ono: yes, same here, I'm testing GRUB v2 in a virtual machine
[18:27] <ketamine> Hello
[18:28] <tobben> ketamine, please join ##tobben
[18:28] <teward> tobben: don't advertise channels
[18:28] <ketamine> I'm looking for some help with a monitor issue
[18:29] <ka1n> mcphail: its not the hardware, its a know issue: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93581#c13
[18:29] <DJones> tobben: Please dont advertise offtopic channels
[18:29] <JustCurious> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 12.04, and this page is not available: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/precise-security/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages
[18:30] <JustCurious> why not? support until 2017?
[18:31] <JustCurious> it happens when I try to update the packets
[18:31] <TJ-> bilb_ono: Does "ls ($root)/grub/" list something like "i386-pc/ locale/ fonts/ grubenv"  ?
[18:31] <bilb_ono> TJ-: ok 1 thing I changed when this was working was updating the drivers to nvidia drivers instead of whatever it was using before. any way that could have done this?
[18:31] <helpplzubuntu> hi
[18:31] <ioria> JustCurious, try http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/precise-security.obsolete/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages
[18:31] <helpplzubuntu> still support utopic
[18:31] <TJ-> bilb_ono: It's not entirely clear what the actual issue is yet... if it is a corrupted/truncated initrd.img or kernel, that's an out-of-space issue
[18:31] <helpplzubuntu> ?
[18:31] <bilb_ono> ls ($root)/grub/    lists “file not found
[18:32] <TJ-> bilb_ono: Right, so the 'root' value could be incorrect, or the file-system could be corrupted
[18:33] <bilb_ono> echo $root gives hd0, gpt2 . not sure if that helps
[18:33] <TJ-> bilb_ono: I suggest you get yourself sorted out with a Live ISO on USB and boot from that and use "Try Ubuntu" then come back to us and we can do much better diagnosis and fix
[18:33] <bilb_ono> ok
[18:33] <JustCurious> thanks ioria, but if it's obsolete, what I gain with this?
[18:33] <helpplzubuntu> any1: still support utopic?
[18:34] <ioria> JustCurious, .........
[18:35] <JustCurious> pioria, seriously, I am a newbie
[18:35] <MrPuppet69> Hello everyone!
[18:35] <JustCurious> ioria
[18:36] <ioria> JustCurious,  as you can see there is no precise-security   http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/
[18:36] <JustCurious> I thought Ubuntu 12.04 was supported until 2017
[18:36] <bilb_ono> TJ-: ok im in the terminal in try ubuntu
[18:36] <JustCurious> then they lied
[18:37] <DJones> JustCurious: it is supported until 2017
[18:37] <JustCurious> but if there is not security updates
[18:37] <MrPuppet69> I just set up passwordless login via RSA encryption from my SSH Ubuntu server. However, while my RSA private key is encrypted via 128 bit AES, I can still view it with less without it prompting for a password. Is that normal behavior?
[18:37] <joadr> I've an airport (apple) and it uses 802.11a,b,g,n,ac and all that.. my pc supports wireless a,b,g,n but when I connect with my ubuntu, it only shows wireless g, so I have poor signal and poor internet speed, is there a way to force wireless n? Forgot to mention that my Macbook connects to the wireless n
[18:38] <JustCurious> but if there is not security updates for Ubuntu 12.04, what's the point? DJones
[18:38] <joadr> I mean, force my ubuntu to connect with wireless n insted of wireless g
[18:38] <Ben64> JustCurious: there are security updates, ddebs is something different
[18:38] <DJones> JustCurious: My 12.04 install is still getting updates
[18:38] <TJ-> bilb_ono: I need to go to dinner here; but I'm sure there are several others can talk you through what's needed - essential mounting the problem file-system(s) as a 'chroot' and exploring/fixing it
[18:38] <ioria> JustCurious,  DebuggingProgramCrash
[18:39] <JustCurious> where can I get these security updates Ben64 ?
[18:40] <Ben64> JustCurious: "these" ?
[18:40] <ioria> JustCurious,  cat /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[18:40] <JustCurious> #############################################################
[18:41] <JustCurious> ################### OFFICIAL UBUNTU REPOS ###################
[18:41] <JustCurious> #############################################################
[18:41] <JustCurious> ###### Ubuntu Main Repos
[18:41] <JustCurious> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release amd64 (20120823.1)]/ dists/precise/main/binary-i386/
[18:41] <JustCurious> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release amd64 (20120823.1)]/ dists/precise/restricted/binary-i386/
[18:41] <Ben64> yeah, obviously don't spam the channel, use paste.ubuntu.com
[18:41] <TJ-> JustCurious: Try asking in #ubuntu-hardened where the security team are
[18:41] <Fatar> did he just get muted
[18:42] <hio_> hey, what is ubuntu snappy? are there still deb packages there? i don't understand
[18:42] <JustCurious> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11926512/
[18:42] <TJ-> JustCurious: I seem to remember it is simply that precise-updates contains everything that used to be in precise-security, so change all -security references to -updates
[18:42] <hio_> should i use ubuntu snappy right now as my desktop?
[18:42] <Ben64> why are you trying ddebs anyway
[18:42] <Ben64> JustCurious: ^ they are for debugging
[18:42] <DJones> !snappy | hio_
[18:43] <JustCurious> Ben64 could you pass me your sources.list data?
[18:43] <hio_> what does "rendition of ubuntu" mean? its a completely new distribution?
[18:43] <Ben64> JustCurious: no...
[18:44] <JustCurious> well thanks
[18:44] <TJ-> JustCurious: that sources.list dos *not* contain references to any ddeb repos, so that must be coming from something else, maybe under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[18:44] <ioria> JustCurious,  http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Repository/SourcesList
[18:45] <JustCurious> from synaptic maybe
[18:45] <JustCurious> I don't know! :(
[18:45] <TJ-> JustCurious: "ls -latr /etc/apt/sources.list.d/"
[18:45] <teward> JustCurious: synaptic just uses the same files that TJ- mentioned - use their command
[18:45] <joadr> I've an airport (apple) and it uses 802.11a,b,g,n,ac and all that.. my pc supports wireless a,b,g,n but when I connect with my ubuntu, it only shows wireless g, so I have poor signal and poor internet speed, is there a way to force ubuntu to connecto to wireless n? Forgot to mention that my Macbook connects to the wireless n
[18:45] <ioria> JustCurious,  wow it's a ppa.sources.list
[18:47] <JustCurious> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11926541/
[18:47] <ablest1980> hello i want to change ablest1980@ablestx-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ to ablest1980@ablest1980-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ in terminal how may i?
[18:47] <JustCurious> should I remove all ppa-source.lists ?
[18:47] <ketamine> Hoping someone may be of help. I am using debian but maybe someone will know anyways
[18:47] <ketamine> Hopefully someone could advise me on where to read or figure this out. I have had one tiny bug with my KVM switch in debian where if the PC went to sleep while I was on channel 2 and I went back to 1 the resolution would be small. Once I went to screen preferences it would auto correct. I just ignored it. Today I had this happen and now it will not auto fix and it shows it as an unknown screen with 640x480 resolution only.
[18:47] <teward> ketamine: you need #debian
[18:47] <teward> on oftc
[18:47] <teward> !debian | ketamine
[18:47] <ketamine> I uninstalled and reinstalled nvidia drivers with no luck
[18:48] <teward> ketamine: we don't give support for Debian here
[18:48] <ketamine> alright x.x
[18:48] <TJ-> JustCurious: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ddebs.list"  ... that's where the entries likely are
[18:48] <bilb_ono> why is it when you boot to a live usb, sometimes it gives you the pretty GUI “try ubuntu or Install ubuntu” and sometimes it give you the ugly grub looking black and white text with the same options?
[18:48]  * TJ- must go to dinner, sorry
[18:48] <bilb_ono> thanks for your help TJ-
[18:49] <JustCurious> TJ- No entry for that
[18:49] <TJ-> bilb_ono: the black-and-white screen is GRUB when the PC boots the device in UEFI mode, it's pretty when booting in LEgacy BIOS mode
[18:49] <nicomachus> pretty purple.
[18:49] <bilb_ono> ah how can I specifically choose the black and white?
[18:49] <fusion_> Hello, how can I find out what program or pid is being used when netstat -anlp only shows me a "-" ?
[18:50] <TJ-> JustCurious: locate the file containing the references with: "grep ddeb /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list"
[18:50] <TJ-> bilb_ono: that's controlled by the PC's boot menu choices, not the operating system. This *might* be part of your original problem... the PC booting in the wrong mode
[18:51] <bilb_ono> i swear the bios says UEFI. but its booting into the pretty mode
[18:51] <TJ->  -- gone --
[18:51] <ablest1980> hello i want to change ablest1980@ablestx-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ to ablest1980@ablest1980-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ in terminal how may i?
[18:51] <joadr> !802.11n
[18:51] <JustCurious> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11926572/
[18:53] <Spartacle> Hey guys, I brought a HP stream 13 and suffering my random wireless disconnects, usually switching aeroplane mode off and on gets my back online
[18:53] <Spartacle> but I have no idea how to troubleshoot, dmesg doesnt show anything obvious
[18:53] <JustCurious> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/11926572/ are you gone? :-(
[18:54] <teward> JustCurious: you may want to remove the ddebs.list file
[18:54] <Spartacle> fusion_, most likely nfs in my experience
[18:54] <JustCurious> how teward?
[18:54]  * teward scratches head
[18:55] <fusion_> Spartacle, The source of the is from the host not the server
[18:55] <teward> JustCurious: well you can either purge it or you can manually comment out the lines
[18:55] <fellayaboy> Samba Question: i cant write to certain folders in my samba share even though im a valid user in samba
[18:55] <fusion_> Spartacle, I see the random block ports on my firewall
[18:55] <JustCurious> teward, the thing is they are not in my sources.list
[18:55] <Spartacle> ablest1980, https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=ubuntu%20ps1%20bashrc
[18:55] <teward> JustCurious: so either `sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ddebs.list`, or edit the file (with sudo) and add # at the beginning
[18:55] <teward> JustCurious: no, because sources.list.d/*, a folder inside /etc/apt/ is ALSO capable of holding additional lists
[18:56] <teward> of sources
[18:56] <ablest1980> k ty
[18:56] <JustCurious> ok thanks
[18:56] <teward> JustCurious: so that the /etc/apt/sources.list doesn't get infinitely cluttered AND so you can manage repositories more easier
[18:56] <MrPuppet69> Hey guys, I have set a passphrase for my RSA private key. How am I still able to view it using only "less" in the terminal without it prompting for the passphrase?
[18:57] <Spartacle> fusion_, can you pastebin it?
[18:57] <teward> MrPuppet69: um... i assume you mean `less RSAPrivKeyFile` ?
[18:57] <fusion_> Spartacle, you want netstat or the ufw.log or both?
[18:57] <teward> MrPuppet69: because that's 'encrypted' - to actually USE the key you have to decrypt
[18:57] <teward> and then you need the password
[18:57] <Spartacle> fusion_, netstat o
[18:57] <fellayaboy> i copied this folder from a windows share but i cant write to it...but on linux side it looks fine...  do i have to delete this folder, set the permissions on windows and recopy it back into my linux samba in order for me to write...or is there a linux -windows permission editor
 No, I mean the id_rsa file which contains the private key.
[18:59] <MrPuppet69> Can't someone just copy paste they key and use it?
[18:59] <teward> MrPuppet69: same concept RSAPrivKeyFile is a placeholder not the real filename
[18:59] <teward> MrPuppet69: do you see an Proc-Type: field in there, and it says ENCRYPTED ?
[18:59] <teward> in the output
[19:01] <Ashu> i have downloaded the ubuntu recently but will installing it shows error what shall i do...?
[19:02] <JustCurious> thank you teward, I think you resolved my problem
[19:02] <Guest1165> question related with chroot, how do I install multiple packages
[19:02] <Guest1165> 	    to chroot env let say /home/user/chroot/ without using chroot
[19:02] <Guest1165> 	    command ?
[19:02] <Guest1165>  
[19:02] <EriC^^> fellayaboy: change the permissions in linux
[19:02] <teward> !multiline | Guest1165
[19:02] <teward> bah
[19:02] <Guest1165> teward: sorry.
[19:02] <teward> Guest1165: don't type/paste to multiple lines, say it on all one line
[19:02] <MrPuppet69> Teward, yeah it says encrypted.
[19:03] <fusion_> Spartacle, when I netstat -o > file   , its telling me permission denied
[19:03] <teward> MrPuppet69: then it won't help them if they don't have the password.
[19:03] <MrPuppet69> By the way, how do I respond to you directly? Which command do I use? Sorry, newbie here.
[19:03] <teward> MrPuppet69: if there were no password on the key, i'd be worried.
[19:03] <teward> MrPuppet69: just put my nick at the beginning like i'm doing.
[19:04] <MrPuppet69> teward Like this
[19:04] <Guest1165> question is related with chroot, how do I install multiple packages to chroot env let say /home/user/chroot/ without using chroot command?
[19:04] <Spartacle> fusion_, sorry that o was a slip of the finger... 'netstat -ntlp' as root is what you need
 Not sure if it's working.
[19:04] <teward> MrPuppet69: yep, that works and pings me :)
[19:04] <teward> MrPuppet69: it's working.
[19:04] <EriC^^> Guest1165: sudo chroot /home/user/chroot , then install as if you're in the install
[19:04] <MrPuppet69> teward Ah, cool : )
[19:04] <Spartacle> fusion_, but a process showing as - maybe because you are not root/sudo
[19:04] <EriC^^> Guest1165: ah, i misread
[19:04] <teward> MrPuppet69: the password prompt is when it's encrypted, as long as you have a secure password you're relatively OK
[19:05] <EriC^^> Guest1165: why do you not want to use the chroot command?
[19:05] <fusion_> Spartacle,  no problem, sorry I didn't catch that, I'm new to linux and learning.
[19:05] <Ashu> WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE]
[19:05] <fusion_> Spartacle, I did run it as root and it did the same thing
[19:05] <wileee> !details | ashu
[19:06] <MrPuppet69> teward Yeah, I'm a little confused about that. Let me briefly describe what's going through my mind, and maybe you could clear some of the misconceptions I might have.
[19:06] <Spartacle> fusion_, no worries, we are/were all new at some point
[19:06] <fusion_> Spartacle, ok, for some reason, its not letting me redirect the command to a file.
[19:06] <MrPuppet69> So, I create two RSA keys, one public and one private. I stored the public key on my server, and now I set a password on my private key.
[19:07] <teward> MrPuppet69: sure, but consider i'm also still at work, slow response times are important
[19:07] <fusion_> Spartacle, the command I ran was "sudo netstat -ntlp > file.txt"
[19:07] <MrPuppet69> teward Haha, sure. Sorry to disturb you at work.
[19:07] <Guest1165> EriC^^: I don't wanted to user chroot command , so env is /home/user/ubuntu-12 which is basically ubuntu-12.04 now with chroot /home/user/ubuntu-12 and then apt-get works. is there anyway I can install it from host rather then using chroot and then apt-get
[19:07] <teward> MrPuppet69: ping me at the beginning of each line too so i don't miss anything
[19:07] <Spartacle> fusion_, you'll need write permission to the folder you are in.. what user are you running the commands as? try "cd ~ ; netstat -ntlp >> file.txt"
[19:08] <EriC^^> Guest1165: you can run sudo chroot /home/user/ubuntu-12 apt-get install <something>
[19:09] <EriC^^> but you'd still be using the chroot command, i guess
[19:09] <EriC^^> not sure if you can do that without the chroot command
[19:09] <MrPuppet69> teward My question is that why can I still view my id_rsa file containing my private key using just the "less" command, and it doesn't even ask for my password before I view it using "less." If someone were somehow able to get access to my account, couldn't they just copy the key and store it in another file, then use it to access my server?
[19:09] <fusion_> Spartacle, I figured it out lol. I had to change the directory that I was trying to save it too.
[19:11] <Guest1165> ok
[19:11] <teward> MrPuppet69: because they still need your password to use it
[19:11] <MrPuppet69> teward I mean, when I encrypt the file using, say filevault on OS X, it would prompt me for the password before I can view the contents. Here, it doesn't, that's why I'm a little confused.
[19:11] <MrPuppet69> teward I see.
[19:11] <teward> MrPuppet69: that's a different 'encryption' - likely it's being encrypted with a different key, and that needs a password first so you can gain access to the already-encrypted private key
[19:12] <teward> MrPuppet69: when you generate a key and it asks you for the password, that's the password to decrypt the key for use when you need to verify ownership of the key
[19:12] <Ashu> Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO. For more information , Please see the log file   it comes every time while installing plz help what shall i do????????
[19:13] <teward> MrPuppet69: to that end, having the viewability of the private key, while it's encrypted with a password and they don't know the password you put on it, they can't really do anything with it without bruteforcing the pw
[19:14] <wileee> Ashu, what log file, and calm down stop the helps.
[19:14] <MrPuppet69> teward I see, so if I copy pasted the key to another file (say id_rsa_copy), and used it on another computer, the file won't be the same as the original id_rsa file?
[19:14] <teward> MrPuppet69: lets put it in a different way that may be more understandable.
[19:14] <Ashu> it shows an error
[19:14] <MrPuppet69> teward Haha, okay cool. Definitely.
[19:15] <teward> MrPuppet69: i have a file.  I say "This is the public information.  The secure, top secret information is in this here safe.".  The safe in question has a pincode that is unknown digits long.
[19:15] <teward> MrPuppet69: them having the public information and the safe doesn't help them if they want the secret information
[19:15] <wileee> Ashu, If you cannot show the errors and give some details here you will be wasting your time. Look at all the others doing this and getting help.
[19:15] <teward> MrPuppet69: insomuch that because they need my pincode to open said safe, or they have to brute force open the safe.
[19:15] <Ashu> ERRoR:"Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO" it comes every time while installing
[19:16] <wileee> Ashu, Ah, this the mini installer?
[19:16] <teward> MrPuppet69: the same concept applies here: they could have your Public Key, and your Private Key, but since your Private Key is encrypted, they either need to brute force the password you set on it, or they need the password, to actually authenticate as the private key
[19:16] <Ashu> so how can i solve this???
[19:16] <teward> MrPuppet69: because it's encrypted simply having the encrypted private key doesn't help them since they can't put the password that would 'decrypt' the encrypted private key for use
[19:17] <bilb_ono> how much does it cost to have someone come to your house and install ubuntu for you?
[19:17] <wileee> !mini | Ashu is this what your using
[19:17] <teward> MrPuppet69: the nearest analogy is that "private info in the safe vs. public disclosed info on the same thing" example I just gave you - they don't know the pincode to the safe so they can't get to the private information
[19:17] <teward> MrPuppet69: similarly, without your password or brute forcing the password, your encrypted private key is of no real use to them
[19:18] <Guest1165> EriC^^: Thanks that will work f
[19:18] <wileee> Ashu, Or are you trying to install ubuntu with Wubi?
[19:18] <teward> MrPuppet69: but your actual concern shouldn't be "What if they get my key", your concern at that point is "If they have my encrypted private key they're in my system."
[19:18] <teward> MrPuppet69: and the moment they're in your system, you are quite literally screwed.
[19:18] <EriC^^> Guest1165: np
[19:18] <teward> MrPuppet69: so I'd be less worried about your private key which is encrypted.  And more worried about the security of the machine HOLDING the private key
[19:18] <teward> (the safest thing is to keep the private keys off of your computer on encrypted media)
[19:19] <MrPuppet69> Ah, I see. So, there's another "layer" of security in the file, and just being able to view the file and see the encryption key doesn't allow them to actually "use" they key?
[19:19] <MrPuppet69> teward Ah, I see. So, there's another "layer" of security in the file, and just being able to view the file and see the encryption key doesn't allow them to actually "use" they key?
[19:19] <MrPuppet69> teward Whoops, forgot to mention you first time : )
[19:19] <teward> MrPuppet69: i saw what you were saying since i'm watching the channel right now.
[19:19] <Ashu> i m installing it directly does it matter???without any CD or bootable device.
[19:20] <fusion_> Spartacle, http://pastebin.com/FN2RWag, netstat /ntlp didn't show the connection.
[19:20] <MrPuppet69> teward But if I kept the keys off of my computer, then I wouldn't be able to access my server right?
[19:20] <teward> MrPuppet69: Another example that's even more laymans-terms than the one i gave is this: I give you a list of names, and a locked box. I don't give you the key.  I say "The personal information tied to each of these names is in the locked box"
[19:20] <wileee> Ashu, Wubi is not supported your using a install that is a bad idea.
[19:20] <teward> MrPuppet69: so you can't get to that personal information without the key to the box.  What you see when you `less` your private key is the key after it's encrypted
[19:21] <teward> MrPuppet69: the decryption 'key' isn't stored in there, afaik, and the 'decryption' of the key won't work without the password
[19:21] <teward> MrPuppet69: and if you keep the keys off your computer, on an encrypted drive, you can specify the key file to use with `-i /path/to/file`
[19:21] <teward> without backticks but meh
[19:21] <teward> which is what I do, but I"m insane and paranoid so meh
[19:22] <teward> MrPuppet69: so your ultimate concern is not "They have my encrypted private key!" but "Did I use a strong passphrase on the key" and "Do they know my password"
[19:22] <wileee> Ashu, If you have a linux install and grub on the computer you could just boot the iso, otherwise put it on a disk/usb boot it and install.
[19:22] <RainMan28> Is there any benefit to using an init script to start something at boot vs just using crontab?
[19:23] <bilb_ono> Is there anything at all that persists when you re-install ubuntu ‘erase ubuntu and install from scratch'
[19:23] <Ashu> thanx a lot..
[19:23] <wileee> no problem Ashu ;)
[19:24] <bilb_ono> Ive been trying to do this for about a week now and starting to think there are system level things preventing me from doing this beyond just the os
[19:25] <wileee> bilb_ono, If you erase it, it is gone, can you be more clear?
[19:25] <MrPuppet69> teward That was very helpful, I get a much better picture now : )
[19:26] <wileee> bilb_ono, This anything to do with a dual boot, and booting?
[19:26] <Spartacle> fusion_, that pastebin was removed
[19:26] <bilb_ono> wileee I can’t successfully install ubuntu. It never thinks its a bootable device. I don’t think anyone else has to make their ubuntu bootable, I think that is done when its installed. Thus I think my attempts at reinstalling are somehow missing something bigger, an issue that is preveting the total install
[19:26] <MrPuppet69> teward However, I'd like to know about how that happens, in more technical terms. Is there anywhere I could perhaps read about it? I tried Google, but nada : /
[19:26] <bilb_ono> no I just want 1 install of ubuntu, plain and simple
[19:26] <fusion_> http://pastebin.com/FN2RWagb
[19:27] <fusion_> i just looked at it?
[19:27] <wileee> bilb_ono, You on the live now?
[19:27] <bilb_ono> other problems I have seen: no, I am on “ubuntu” of UEFI
[19:27] <bilb_ono> and there is an install of ubuntu for sure. I just installed it
[19:27] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: you mean you can boot it, but it won't boot automatically?
[19:27] <bilb_ono> its just a question of reaching it
[19:28] <wileee> bilb_ono, Ah UEFI, that is the most crucial info at this time.
[19:28] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: I can’t boot it. It says “No bootable devices - strike F1 to retry,...."
[19:28] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: what do you mean by you're on ubuntu of UEFI?
[19:28] <teward> MrPuppet69: unfortunately i understand how the encrypted key works, but I don't know where that's documented.
[19:28] <teward> sorry
[19:28] <bilb_ono> EriC^^ UEFI has a few items under it in the boot menu. I chose the ubuntu option
[19:29] <Spartacle> fusion_, that is a tcp connection from client to the NFS... umount your NFS and watch it disappear
[19:29] <EriC^^> ok, i guess your bios is set to csm legacy enabled
[19:29] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: turn csm legacy to disabled and uefi on and it should boot
[19:29] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999 before you try that for a sec
[19:30] <fusion_> Spartacle, If I unmount it, then how am i going to connect to my serveR?
[19:30] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: I can’t reach a terminal to type anything
[19:30] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: why not?
[19:30] <bilb_ono> and how do I turn csm legacy to disabled?
[19:30] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: or, how do I reach a terminal from the boot menu?
[19:30] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: after you choose ubuntu from the uefi menu, what happens?
[19:30] <wileee> !uefi | bilb_ono Have this wiki on hand
[19:31] <wileee> but follow EriC^^ to the T
[19:31] <Spartacle> fusion_, sorry, I meant unmount to just show you that it is NFS.. but remount the share afterwards ;)
[19:32] <aktx> http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/nasa-discovers-earths-bigger-older-cousin-kepler-452b/story-fnjwlcze-1227454755492
[19:33] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: interesting. in BIOS setup, I see that it is using the ubuntu boot option under UEFI. When I boot, it says “no bootable devices found”, when I specifically enter the boot menu setup and choose UEFI> ubuntu, it just gives me a blank black screen
[19:33] <MrPuppet69> teward Ah, that's unfortunate. So, to my understanding, the id_rsa key which I am viewing using "less" is not the "actual" key, but only the encrypted content?
[19:33] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: hold shift after choosing ubuntu
[19:33] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: did you check if csm legacy is enabled?
[19:33] <fusion_> Spartacle, just sudo umount nfs?
[19:33] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: how do I check if csm legacy is enabled?
[19:34] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: it should be under boot options
[19:34] <EriC^^> bios boot or csm legacy or so
[19:34] <teward> MrPuppet69: you're seeing the "encrypted" key, not the actual key, yes.
[19:34] <teward> MrPuppet69: i.e. the safe, or the locked box, in my laymans-terms examples
[19:35] <MrPuppet69> teward Thanks for the help, teward. Appreciate it : )
[19:35] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: under other options I see BIOS setup and Diagnostics. Do I pick one of those?
[19:35] <bilb_ono> to determine if csm legacy is enabled?
[19:35] <EriC^^> try setup
[19:36] <teward> MrPuppet69: just make sure to use strong passwords that're different than your logon passwords and such, to make it that much harder for them to guess the passwords
[19:36] <bilb_ono> ok bios setup. gives me a nice GUI that I can click and stuff. under boot sequence, I see UEFI is chosen and ubuntu is the first option, followed by UEFI: INT13
[19:36] <MrPuppet69> teward I sure will! : )
[19:37] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: any csm legacy option?
[19:37] <teward> MrPuppet69: and always remember: if you're afraid about the security of the private key on your computer, you should actually be worried about them gaining access to that computer with the keys on it rather than the keys, since the bigger risk is introduced by them popping your system
[19:37] <bilb_ono> there is a legacy option instead of UEFI. I don’t see anything about csm
[19:37] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: ok, that should be it
[19:37] <EriC^^> is it enabled?
[19:38] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: by enabled do you mean I should check legacy instead of UEFI?
[19:39] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: no, i mean legacy shouldn't be selected
[19:39] <bilb_ono> ah well its not. UEFI is selected
[19:39] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: ok, exit the bios and reboot, hold shift after selecting ubuntu
[19:40] <MrPuppet69> teward Can't agree more. I've got my drive encrypted, but I'm just concerned about keyloggers. How do I deal with those?
[19:41] <sinthap> hi, have any ddns client for ubuntu
[19:41] <teward> MrPuppet69: if you're that scared about malware you should be taking your computer and locking in a safe
[19:41] <MrPuppet69> teward I mean, there are supposedly keyloggers which are virtually indetectable these days right?
[19:41] <MrPuppet69> teward HAHAHA!
[19:41] <Realdudization> sup?
[19:41] <MrPuppet69> teward Yeah, there's no escape, lol.
[19:42] <bilb_ono> pressed enter on ubuntu, holding shift, and…………………………………………………nothing happens just a blank screen
[19:42] <bilb_ono> this is grub v1 not v2 if that makes a difference btwt
[19:42] <EriC^^> O.o
[19:42] <EriC^^> why do you have grubv1?
[19:42] <lordievader> v1? Wow, what version of Ubuntu?
[19:42] <bilb_ono> but if I press escape, it says “aborted” ,and gives me a boot: _ shell
[19:42] <bilb_ono> 12.04
[19:43] <bilb_ono> i wish I could use 14.04 but alas, I am trying to test software on 12.04
[19:43] <MrPuppet69> teward Also, the common practice is to copy paste passwords, but is that really safer than entering it via keyboard? I mean, many apps and browsers can get access to your clipboard pretty easily innit?
[19:43] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: ok, boot a live usb
[19:43] <bilb_ono> ok then what?
[19:43] <EriC^^> type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:43] <bilb_ono> where do I type it? How do I enter a terminal?
[19:44] <bilb_ono> in try ubuntu?
[19:44] <EriC^^> yeah
[19:44] <orothus> exit
[19:45] <teward> MrPuppet69: wrong guy to ask, because there's various different opinions on that
[19:46] <Pupp3tm4st3r> hi
[19:46] <fusion_> Spartacle, I tried remounting, and got hung at the same spot again.
[19:47] <d4rklit3> hi, im trying to do this tutorial, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-cron-to-automate-tasks-on-a-vps  I am on 14.04  and crond doesn't seem to be a valid service nor is chkconfig a command on the system. how do I check this on 14.04
[19:47] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: ok that command gives me http://termbin.com.icct
[19:47] <RainMan28> Is there any benefit to using an init script to start something at boot vs just using crontab?
[19:48] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: well, that's odd
[19:48] <bilb_ono> its kind of hanging like its waiting for something more
[19:48] <EriC^^> yeah type yes
[19:48] <bilb_ono> whats it supposed to do?
[19:48] <Pupp3tm4st3r> is anybody here who can help me with apache2 and php (building and some configuring options)
[19:48] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: you have 1 hdd right?
[19:48] <EriC^^> 2TB?
[19:48] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: yeah, and typing anything returns me to the command line
[19:48] <bilb_ono> yeah 2TB
[19:48] <OerHeks> Pupp3tm4st3r, better join #ubuntu-server for that
[19:49] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: ok, type ls -ld /sys/firmware/efi
[19:49] <EriC^^> what does it say?
[19:49] <skinux> Which Ubuntu Studio tools are meant for generating audio such as music?
[19:49] <Pupp3tm4st3r> OerHeks: Thanks, will try
[19:49] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: no such file or directory
[19:50] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: ok, well ubuntu seems to be installed in legacy mode, and you're using a msdos partition table
[19:50] <bilb_ono> in /sys/firmware I have acpi and mmap
[19:50] <bilb_ono> i am, I think I remember seeing msdos when I was checking it earlier
[19:50] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: curious how you get an ubuntu in uefi though, did you have ubuntu installed earlier? on a different disk perhaps?
[19:51] <bilb_ono> yeah this system is going from ubuntu to ubuntu
[19:51] <bilb_ono> ok so from here, how do I go about installing it “right"
[19:51] <OerHeks> skinux, lots of META packages, ubuntustudio-sound -recording -video, or ubuntustudio-audio forallmetapackages
[19:51] <^kiff^> hello
[19:52] <d4rklit3> anyone, how can i check if cron is even running?
[19:52] <OerHeks> d4rklit3, service cron status
[19:53] <d4rklit3> i see
[19:53] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: well, you could try setting legacy enabled in the bios and it should boot i think
[19:53] <d4rklit3> then what is crond? and why does digitalocean refer to it?
[19:53] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: or if you want uefi you could make a gpt partition table and install in uefi mode, you need to make sure you boot the usb in uefi mode though as it's booted in legacy mode right now
[19:53] <bilb_ono> EriC^^ so which of the legacy options do i choose?
[19:54] <EriC^^> choose legacy enabled
[19:54] <thispc> what is cron
[19:54] <EriC^^> and turn uefi off
[19:54] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: or just reinstall in uefi, it's up to you
[19:54] <OerHeks> d4rklit3, crond is used by packages, cronjob by users afaik
[19:55] <OerHeks> !cron
[19:56] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: ok so I unchecked UEFI and checked Legacy but there are checkboxes. 1 for USB storage, 1 for onboard NIC, 1 for CD/Dvd/Cd-rw drive, 1 for (Bus 04 dev 00) PCI Raid adapter
[19:57] <bilb_ono> which of these should I check and which order should they be in?
[19:57] <thispc> hi all i have removed windows 8 and install ubuntu before i have c d e f now where this partions
[19:58] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: put them before the hdd
[19:58] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: the hhd doesn’t seem to be an option
[19:59] <EriC^^> well check those
[20:00] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: ok they are all checked. What order should they be in. right now UB storage device is first which seems wrong. seems like it will just boot back to the live usb…?
[20:01] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: doesn't matter much
[20:01] <EriC^^> remove the usb and then boot
[20:03] <AAA_> There is still the second parallel desktop I can't switch into normally, is this normal after a system update? My only proof about it now is the two xchat windows confirmed in the System Monitor, while ... the hell? Ubuntu switched on ANOTHER desktop workspace after the system update? But of course did not leave me any option of switching between them... NOT funny, not funny at all.
[20:04] <bilb_ono> EriC^^: it works! imagine that
[20:04] <bilb_ono> thanks for your help!
[20:05] <RainMan28> Is there any benefit to using an init script to start something at boot vs just using crontab?
[20:05] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: great, no problem
[20:07] <AAA_> RainMan28, the advantage of a script is the ability to write any software, conditions, you can run any software you want, written in any language you like
[20:08] <rsv> i think my laptop has corrupted. When i login - it does not show any icons
[20:08] <rsv> or task manager
[20:09] <RainMan28> AAA_: thank you, that makes sense.
[20:11] <TJ-> EriC^^: nice work :)
[20:11] <rsv> I Also think my filesystem has got corrupted as well
[20:13] <AAA_> N !!! How I missed you! How is your fight with robots and stuff? Clinging to walls still?
[20:15] <skinux> OerHeks: I meant which program is meant for generating audio music? Something with a GUI.
[20:15] <AAA_> skinux: fruityloops? ProTracker?
[20:16] <skinux> So, Ubuntu Studio doesn't have any programs for generating?
[20:16] <tobben> skinlux, want to hear/listen my audio server now?
[20:16] <skinux> I'm not asking about listening to music, I use Pandora for that. I want to generate music for lyrics I write.
[20:17] <tobben> Ooups
[20:17] <TJ-> skinux: do you mean MIDI-type applications?
[20:17] <skinux> No, I would want to generate MP3
[20:17] <tobben> Thats what I do...
[20:17] <skinux> Although, I wouldn't mind playing around with generating MIDI audio.
[20:17] <brontosaurusrex> skinux: did you try http://www.hydrogen-music.org/hcms/ ?
[20:18] <OerHeks> Skyrider, Bass synthesizer/sample player/sequencer  ? see Freebird or the ausio list https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList
[20:18] <AAA_> skinux: start trying various software, get familiar with trackers!
[20:18] <OerHeks> hydrogen is also in ubuntustudio indeed
[20:18] <skinux> What do you mean by trackers?
[20:19] <iIbeIkyr> hey ilbelkyr :)
[20:19] <tobben> skinux, I recommend ffmpeg
[20:20] <TJ-> skinux: rosegarden and various other JACK supporting apps are what most F/OSS musicians use
[20:20] <AAA_> skinux: you need to have knowledge of 90's music creation software like ProTracker and such, there are newer, better variants, but the simplicity and value is there, it is a way to create music tracks, hehe, ever played any S3T? LOL
[20:21] <skinux> tobben: I seriously doubt ffmpeg is a GUI for creating audio tracks.
[20:21] <daftykins> lol.
[20:21] <AAA_> adrenaline.mod is rarely played back correctly, only the original Pinball Fantasies could play it correctly, and still the best piece of music you could imagine...
[20:24] <newbee> I have a question about creating a Ubuntu Live USB through mac
[20:24] <Guest82138> I followed the instructions on the site here:
[20:24] <Guest82138> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osxhttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[20:25] <dworniok> Hi
[20:25] <Guest82138> what I'm curious about it is, should I end up with an image that is Ubuntu ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso.dmg
[20:25] <dworniok> Please, I need help with kodi instalation on my ubuntu
[20:25] <AAA_> skinux: as I said above... start small, by creating your own .mod or oplaying back some existing and you will understand how it all works.
[20:25] <Guest82138> Or should it just be ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.dmg
[20:25] <Pupp3tm4st3r> guest82138
[20:26] <Pupp3tm4st3r> just rename the *.img.dmg to *.img
[20:26] <Pupp3tm4st3r> will bu sufficient
[20:26] <Pupp3tm4st3r> did this today three times (ubuntu, debian and centos) was working all the time
[20:27] <Pupp3tm4st3r> the transformation via hdiutil always appends the .dmg
[20:27] <kIoeri> ishanyx isn't here? :(
[20:27] <skinux> AAA_ My own .mod ? You mean re-mixing someone else's music?
[20:27] <Guest82138> ah, so just manually remove the <.iso> part of the file name?
[20:27] <Pupp3tm4st3r> wait...
[20:28] <Pupp3tm4st3r> you download a *.iso
[20:28] <Pupp3tm4st3r> right?
[20:28] <tobben> anyone knows the command for apt-get to search function, an example, search for 'nslookup' ?
[20:28] <Guest82138> yup
[20:28] <Pupp3tm4st3r> and then convert it via hdiutil to a img
[20:28] <kIoeri> AHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH
[20:28] <Pupp3tm4st3r> as described on the website
[20:28] <Guest82138> then I ran the transform bia hdiutil
[20:28] <kIoeri> WAY TO GO genii
[20:28] <kIoeri> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
[20:28] <kIoeri> !ops TROLOLOLOLO MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM YEAHHHHHHHHHH FUCK MY ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSS IM QUITING STAFF
[20:29]  * genii makes more coffee
[20:29] <DalekSec> genii: Wrong tab complete there.
[20:29] <lasers> genii: Wrong person?
[20:29] <Pupp3tm4st3r> yeah and the transformation process builds a *.img.dmg
[20:29] <Pupp3tm4st3r> normally
[20:29] <genii> lasers: Nope
[20:29] <tobben> type of "apt-get search function" ?
[20:30] <AAA_> skinux: .mod were 4-channel pro-tracker files, tracker is a way to compose music from samples and tracks and simple tricks. all music is just a re-mix of tones, voice tracks, sounds. no matter how original, it still uses the concept of tools( instruments, voices) and independent tracks, which under the old system are played from what we call the "notes". Tracker system uses something similar, just modernized.
[20:30] <Guest82138> the terminal hasn't responded after doing the lasts step so it might still be working right?
[20:30] <Pupp3tm4st3r> what step
[20:30] <Guest82138> step 8: sudo dd if=/path/to/downloaded.img of=/dev/rdiskN bs=1m
[20:31] <Guest82138> it asked for my pass, which I entered, then it hasn't returned a prompt
[20:31] <tobben> how doing "apt-get" search fir nslookup ?
[20:31] <skinux> Anyone know a reason why streamed video would be stuck as if it were paused, even after restarting browser?
[20:31] <Pupp3tm4st3r> yeah that sometimes that takes a bit
[20:32] <Guest82138> I didn't know if it took more than a few minutes or if it should have written a .dmg (instead of a .iso.dmg)
[20:32] <Guest82138> ah okay, I'll wait a while then
[20:32] <EriC^^> Guest82138: sudo pkill -USR1 ^dd , should tell you about the progress
[20:32] <EriC^^> ( type it in another terminal )
[20:32] <AAA_> skinux: well, there are many reasons, for example when playing RealMedia networks video, the reason usually is something called "Buffering..."
[20:32] <skinux> In this case, it's NetFli
[20:33] <Guest82138> btw, when I created a tails live USB, I only really needed to do this: dd if=tails-i386-1.3.iso of=/dev/rdisk9 bs=16m && sync
[20:33] <skinux> It's not buffering, though it does just a little if I move the position selector.
[20:33] <Guest82138> I never had to change the iso to a dmg
[20:33] <Guest82138> thanks EriC^^
[20:34] <EriC^^> Guest82138: yeah that's not necessary, and using a higher bs makes it transfer quicker usually
[20:34] <skinux> AAA_ Is there something in the system that could have crashed which I need to manually restart?
[20:34] <Guest23552> Hi everyone! Im new and i wanna know how to find dolphin-emu channel. ANy idea?
[20:35] <Guest82138> how long would it take? I mean the tails one was sign. smaller, but still, it's been around 10min
[20:35] <AAA_> skinux: web videos are a beast that works only when the weather is right and can fail for a variety of reasons inside or outside your computer.
[20:35] <EriC^^> Guest82138: 10mins is pretty excessive, did you try the pkill command?
[20:35] <akurilin> question: with dpkg-query, how do I list only installed packages?
[20:36] <Guest82138> I wanted to wait to see if anyone would come in and say that was the equivalent of a delete system32 ;-)
[20:36] <skinux> AAA_ In other words, you really don't know what you're talking about, so you're giving a useless answer just to feel smart.
[20:36] <jhutchins_wk> skinux: You need to test other streams, preferably of the same type of content, and test local playback too.
[20:36] <reisio> akurilin: dpkg -l
[20:37] <Guest82138> no offense, it's just I don't want to follow something I don't understand completely, especially if it's sudo
[20:37] <reisio> akurilin: https://wiki.debian.org/ListInstalledPackages
[20:37] <jhutchins_wk> skinux: No, you haven't given enough information for us to diagnose the problem.
[20:37] <akurilin> reisio: I was hoping to use globbing in there
[20:37] <akurilin> reisio: yep, looking at that, thank you
[20:37] <skinux> jhutchins_wk: I already tried to watch something else on NetFlix and it does the same thing.
[20:37] <reisio> akurilin: dpkg -l | grep -i foo
[20:37] <reisio> otherwise you might want to use a tool that starts with 'a'
[20:38] <akurilin> apt?
[20:38] <AAA_> skinux: I know only too well what I am talking about... I just tell you that you might spend hours solving problems with your computer only to find out the said video is corrupted on the server and will always stop at said point, I remember this happening even on youtube? It was so long ago...  wanted to see the end of something and it just never worked.
[20:38] <Guest82138> I ran sudo pkill -USR1 ^dd and it gave me a prompt saying "The disk you inserted was not readable by this computer"
[20:39] <skinux> Apparently I'm having the same problem with YouTube Videos.
[20:40] <Guest82138> nothing showing progress such as xxx-in xxx-out
[20:40] <skinux> Some kind of process must have crashed causing this....only thing I can guess.
[20:40] <AAA_> skinux: also, streaming service relies on high quality internet connection with pretty static IP on your side, and some caching, also, your ISP may be interfering with the streaming...
[20:41] <Guest82138> on another site, it says to ignore that and run http://computers.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how-to-create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-drive-for-mac-in-os-x--cms-21253
[20:42] <SLRK> com
[20:42] <Guest82138> sorry, diskutil eject /dev/diskN
[20:43] <EriC^^> Guest82138: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:43] <Pupp3tm4st3r> did you write diskN?
[20:43] <Guest82138> I'm going to try that now, restart and see if it worked... according to that other guide it looked like that should be it
[20:43] <Guest82138> nope
[20:43] <Guest82138> I wrote to /dev/disk1
[20:43] <Pupp3tm4st3r> okay :D
[20:43] <Guest82138> haha
[20:43] <CYBERH99> Alguien de España???
[20:43] <Guest82138> I'm new, but not 100% new, just 98% new
[20:44] <Guest82138> ;)
[20:44] <CYBERH99> I'm new too
[20:44] <jhutchins_wk> !es
[20:44] <stanreg> What's that software that one can use to install ubuntu-recommended apps? It's something like "after ubuntu". Hints?
[20:45] <jhutchins_wk> CYBERH99: You're welcome to practice your English here though.
[20:45] <Guest82138> EriC^^ it gave me this: sudo: parted: command not found Use netcat.
[20:45] <Pupp3tm4st3r> okay, was just wondering, on my mac disk1 is still my disk^^
[20:45] <wileee> stanreg, You see the after install stuff outside of the OS developers
[20:45] <Guest82138> I'll try to restart and see if that worked
[20:46] <Guest82138> oh, I have EfiFind too...
[20:46] <stanreg> wileee, ty.
[20:47] <Guest82138> thanks for the help, I'll be back if it didnt work or I can't figure it out
[20:48]  * yoyo x
[20:49] <Guest82138> btw, what is this command?
[20:49] <Guest82138> sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:49] <EriC^^> nevermind
[20:50] <h3inz> hey guys, hope any1 can help me out
[20:50] <Seveas> Guest82138: that'll run a command to display partition info and post the results on termbin.com
[20:50] <h3inz> im installing lubuntu via usb and all works fine (using forcepae cuz of old laptop); but at the end of the installation it tells me that software updates cannot be downloaded because apt does not work
[20:51] <Guest82138> oh, good I didn't just download some malware or something ;-)
[20:51] <jhutchins_wk> h3inz: I think we need more accurate wording on the error.
[20:51] <h3inz> jhutchins_wk: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2).
[20:51] <jhutchins_wk> h3inz: That should be ok though, you could reboot and troubleshoot apt/networking from a mostly working system.
[20:51] <jhutchins_wk> h3inz: You'll want to check your disk spce.
[20:52] <h3inz> disk space is at ~30%
[20:52] <h3inz> max
[20:52] <Seveas> h3inz: we need the *full* output of that command. And the command itself.
[20:53] <Guest82138> I'm re-downloading a fresh copy of the .iso.... should I run everything as shown in the guide but then replace the ".iso.dmg" with just ".dmg" (remove the /iso)?
[20:53] <Guest82138> or is that not necessary
[20:53] <h3inz> ok ill try to reproduce the error and then come back here; maybe tomorrow; thanks for the help til now cheers
[20:53] <jhutchins_wk> h3inz: Is this happening at the end of the debian installer or is this something else?  Sounds like Cydia might be involved.
[20:53] <EriC^^> Guest82138: why are you downloading a fresh copy? it's not necessary
[20:54] <EriC^^> Guest82138: run a checksum on the .iso to see if it's good
[20:54] <Guest82138> my friend just told me it may be a corrupted iso
[20:54] <EriC^^> !hashes | type md5sum /path/to/iso and compare here
[20:54] <Guest82138> checksum (I've heard the term, but don't know the command)
[20:55] <Guest82138> ah okay
[20:55] <Guest82138> so it's like checking the key?
[20:55] <ryein> how can i make apt-get install dependencies
[20:55] <EriC^^> it hashes the iso
[20:55] <mokmeister> burn at 4x max
[20:55] <ryein> ?
[20:55] <EriC^^> Guest82138: if anything is different the md5sum will be different
[20:56] <cheetahw26> what is the order of operations when ubuntu starts... when there are older entries in /etc/rc?.d/  and other entries in /etc/init/  ?   Does ubuntu run through the older style first?
[20:56] <jhutchins_wk> ryein: That's what it does by default.
[20:56] <jhutchins_wk> ryein: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[20:56] <Guest82138> okay, also, can I just copy the iso to the drive like I did with tails (like: dd if=tails-i386-1.3.iso of=/dev/rdisk9 bs=16m && sync) or is it necessary to convert the .iso to a .dmg (which I didn't do for tails)?
[20:57] <ryein> jhutchins_wk: i can see packages when searching but it claims it has unmet dependencies
[20:57] <ryein> jhutchins_wk: they match perfectly
[20:57] <EriC^^> Guest82138: no, just dd it
[20:57] <EriC^^> Guest82138: the renaming doesn't do anything
[20:59] <Guest82138> so I *don''t* have to run the hdiutil convert if I have efifind?
[20:59] <bmpr> hi
[20:59] <qpoo> hello there, when does it happen that you can access websites but not your mails ?
[21:00] <bmpr> hi
[21:00] <reisio> qpoo: when your email server is poor?
[21:00] <wileee> qpoo, Focus on the actual issue with details if you can.
[21:01] <jhutchins_wk> qpoo: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[21:01] <bmpr> I have compiled a few executable files, and I want to make them available almost entirely everywhere, how can I do that? I have read from a few websites that I should  edit ~/.profile but I have almost no idea what that is
[21:02] <bmpr> so how can I make this entire folder available to all the terminals and other apps as well?
[21:02] <jhutchins_wk> qpoo: What are you running?  What are you using for a mail client?  Where is your mail located? Can you reach the mail sever with something other than the mail client (ping)?
[21:02] <EriC^^> bmpr: where are they located?
[21:02] <qpoo> I use thunderbird. I am checking if I can access mails otherwise
[21:02] <i20> makefile ?
[21:02] <jhutchins_wk> bmpr: You can put the files in a location that is on the standard path, or you can add their location to the path.
[21:02] <bmpr> EriC^^ : I have compiled the few executables in my Desktop/apps/cpml folder
[21:03] <wileee> qpoo, Are you setting up thunderbird or it does not work when it had?
[21:03] <bmpr> jhutchins_wk
[21:03] <bmpr> I thought  I could do that but apparently they need to be there cause they have to access some of the folders nearby
[21:04] <SuperLag> Anyone successfully got a connection made to a PPTP VPN, from Ubuntu?
[21:04] <EriC^^> bmpr: ok, type nano ~/.profile , and add at the end PATH="$PATH:$HOME/Desktop/apps/cpml"
[21:04] <qpoo> wileee, the latter case
[21:04] <SuperLag> Is it doable, or does it require mucho voodoo?
[21:04] <bmpr> EriC^^ :  you sure that wouldn't do any damage?
[21:04] <EriC^^> bmpr: quite certain, yes
[21:04] <jhutchins_wk> SuperLag: Yes, not even very hard.
[21:04] <bmpr> ok thanks
[21:04] <SuperLag> wileee: yo! my 12.04.5 -> 14.04.2 upgrade? The end users report all is well, and everything works.
[21:05] <wileee> qpoo, Good so that is key info here, any info as others suggest a cause and effect is important.
[21:05] <wileee> SuperLag, I forget the issue but great. ;)
[21:05] <EriC^^> bmpr: np
[21:06] <qpoo> wileee, the mail server may be having a problem
[21:06] <wileee> SuperLag, I remember now, heh, goog job.
[21:07] <wileee> good*
[21:07] <qpoo> I cannot access them in any other way
[21:07] <qpoo> either
[21:07] <qpoo> or I am horribly hacked
[21:07] <wileee> qpoo, Which mail server, this standard email accounts?
[21:07] <qpoo> wileee, yes
[21:09] <wileee> qpoo, Not exactly sure, maybe others will.
[21:12] <qpoo> strange, though..strange things in the night..exchanging traces..strange things in the night..what were the chances..
[21:12] <jhutchins_wk> !pptp
[21:13] <jhutchins_wk> qpoo: Is the server a public, commercial sever, or a private server?
[21:14] <qpoo> <jhutchins_wk, wileee  it was just onfirmed that the interruption was caused by a temporary failure
[21:14] <qpoo> confirmed*
[21:14] <wileee> qpoo, so now what?
[21:15] <qpoo> It should be working again in a little while. so waiting
[21:15] <bmpr> EriC^ : you still there?
[21:15] <jhutchins_wk> qpoo: That's always the first thing to suspect.
[21:16] <jhutchins_wk> qpoo: There are tools you can use to track it down for certain.
[21:16] <qpoo> <jhutchins_wk, oh really, could you tell me more about it?
[21:16] <i20> does anybody know about freeglut prog ?
[21:16] <bmpr> it worked my man
[21:16] <bmpr> thanks EriC^
[21:17] <jhutchins_wk> qpoo: You check DNS resolution, you try ping, you can use telnet to connect to the mail ports and see how they respond.
[21:17] <jhutchins_wk> qpoo: The other way that can happen is if something is blocking the mail port - your ISP, their ISP.
[21:19] <qpoo> jhutchins_wk, I will need to learn more about how to do them..thank you very much!
[21:19] <qpoo> wileee, thank you, too :)
[21:20] <wileee> qpoo, Ah good, carry on .;)
[21:21] <moses_> whats a good pdf reader/editor in ubuntu?
[21:24] <wileee> moses_, There is a handful however limited by the code that may be there.
[21:28] <edupt> hello! I am using a hub usb, and I want to know what serial port is connect a oximeter in the hub usb. Can someone help me?
[21:28] <edupt> I am using ubuntu 12.04
[21:29] <A_m> hi
[21:32] <pero> i have some weird issues with my audio on 14.04 since an update not too long ago: vlc playback will initially be very statically until window is resized; youtube videos are very choppy for the first 30 seconds or so; no sound in csgo at all any more; audio will turn off after a minute in random other games. any ideas where i should start to fix this?
[21:33] <ronin> how would you find out the config file for a x11vnc server?
[21:33] <ronin> and when it doesnt exist especially
[21:34] <linuxuz3r> what happened to libgles3?
[21:35] <RedOrion> UBUNTU SUCKS MY DICK FUCK OFF LINUX
[21:35] <RedOrion> UBUNTU SUCKS MY DICK FUCK OFF LINUX
[21:35] <RedOrion> UBUNTU SUCKS MY DICK FUCK OFF LINUX
[21:35] <RedOrion> UBUNTU SUCKS MY DICK FUCK OFF LINUX
[21:35] <nicomachus> lot of trolls today....
[21:40] <edupt> hello! I am using a hub usb, and I want to know what serial port is connect a oximeter in the hub usb. Can someone help me? I am using ubuntu 12.04.
[21:51] <Razva> hey. I'm trying to execute a cron that'll run this: https://github.com/Razva/newbadmin/blob/master/email/exim-flush-cron.sh . for reasons I cannot understand...when I run the file directly from console, it works. when I run it from cron...it doesn't. any tips?
[21:52] <jhutchins_wk> edupt: Try sudo lsusb
[21:52] <edupt> thanks very much
[21:52] <jhutchins_wk> edupt: If the meter emulates the serial port, it will most likely be ttyUSB0
[21:52] <jhutchins_wk> deweydb_: If you're using a multi-port serial emulator, or have other serial USB devices, it could be something else.
[21:53] <jhutchins_wk> deweydb_: How did you get in my tab complete?
[21:54] <John[Lisbeth]> Is there a command in apt that will let me install a file and it's dependencies into a folder instead of intead of installig it in the main filesystem?
[21:54] <John[Lisbeth]> sort of like apt-get build-dep
[21:54] <jhutchins_wk> !pt
[21:54] <jhutchins_wk> edupt: You are welcome here as well.
[21:55] <reisio> John[Lisbeth]: what for
[21:55] <John[Lisbeth]> I want to create a chroot jail that only has that program available
[21:56] <John[Lisbeth]> So I want to apt the files into an empty folder, or an empty directory tree.
[21:58] <mjbrancato> John[Lisbeth] Don't mean to but in, but you can apt files from a site in replace of wget?
[21:58] <mjbrancato> *butt
[22:00] <John[Lisbeth]> How would I do that?
[22:04] <mjbrancato> John[Lisbeth] no, i thought you were saying you could do that. if your trying to download files through Terminal just do    wget <url>   so an example to download ubuntu image is      wget http://www.sysadminslife.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/ubuntu-boot-loading-screen-300x225.jpg
[22:06] <mailserver> can someone help me set up a mail server with postfix that sends emails from users on a local network
[22:07] <teward> mailserver: #ubuntu-server probably would be better, but keep in mind that this shouldn't be on a residential connection - that will likely get 'blocked' by most mail companies
[22:07] <mailserver> it wont be
[22:08] <mailserver> thanks for the chat channel
[22:12] <HamRadio> Hey guys, I got a little mystery for you
[22:13] <HamRadio> On a laptop that I am putting Ubuntu on, pressing a letter also activates another key
[22:13] <HamRadio> like I press a, it also activates 0 on the number pad
[22:14] <HamRadio> pressing d also presses the enter button, and pressing the space bar also activates page down
[22:14] <HamRadio> any ideas?
[22:16] <teward> HamRadio: is numlock on?
[22:16] <teward> HamRadio: some laptops have 'numpad' keys connected to the actual keyboard
[22:16] <HamRadio> teward, tried that, doens't matter if numlock is on or off
[22:17] <HamRadio> teward, like I said though, d activates enter and space activates page down
[22:17] <HamRadio> numlock shouldn't do that
[22:17] <HamRadio> those are just examples too
[22:17] <teward> i missed the 'page down' part
[22:17] <sjmikem> Hi, what's easiest way to grab a single frame from a .mp4 file ?
[22:17] <HamRadio> teward, oh, that's ok
[22:18] <HamRadio> sjmikem, take a screenshot
[22:18] <sjmikem> yech
[22:18] <sjmikem> figured as much
[22:20] <bazhang> sjmikem, do it with smplayer
[22:21] <bazhang> single frame advance screenshot etc
[22:21] <sjmikem> bazhang: thanks!
[22:22] <bazhang> sjmikem, single frame is the period key, capito; S to screenshot it iirc
[22:23] <bazhang> and capitol
[22:27] <OerHeks> Thank you, Utopic 14.10, you are EOL now ( 30 min ago) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2015-July/000198.html
[22:40] <Morit> Hey guys, I'm kind of a noob here and I was thinking of putting ubuntu on dual boot
[22:40] <ultragamecard> ok
[22:40] <Morit> I'm currently running W8.1
[22:41] <ultragamecard> win 8 is a pain to dual boot
[22:41] <Morit> Will installing ubuntu have any bad effect on battery life whatsoever ?
[22:41] <ultragamecard> I don't think so
[22:41] <Morit> Ok so it's risk-free to install it right ?
[22:42] <ultragamecard> I did it
[22:42] <ultragamecard> I had one problem
[22:42] <Morit> Oh I see
[22:42] <Popkornium18> Hey guys! I was wondering if there is a tool for viewing UFW-logs. I am using GoAccess for Apache logs and it is really useful. Is there something like that?
[22:42] <Morit> was it related to drivers and stuff ?
[22:42] <ultragamecard> idk
[22:43] <Morit> ultragamecard : what was that one problem ?
[22:43] <INEEDANSWERS> Ok so now im going crazy, i installed all kinds of linux distros on my laptop but all with same problem. My laptop wont shutdown, reboot or anything like that, it freezes on splash-screen and i have to force it with the power button, i Run ubuntu mate 15.04 right now
[22:43] <ultragamecard> no
[22:45] <Rochvellon> well if i want to remove some packages I get everytime http://paste.ubuntu.com/11927527/ but these packages are not installed
[22:46] <Morit> Do I have to manually install drivers if I want to dualboot ubuntu ??
[22:46] <BuzzardBuzz> INEEDANSWERS: i have your answers, first-> you are not crazy, second-> your issue with the power button could be a bios setting for ACPI version
[22:46] <ultragamecard_> after you dualboot
[22:46] <ultragamecard_> don't use avanced boot options in windows
[22:47] <Morit> ultragamecard_: I don't understand how's that ?
[22:48] <ultragamecard_> windows advanced boot options set windows as the bootloader
[22:48] <Morit> Okay do I desactivate that in the BIOS ?
[22:48] <INEEDANSWERS> Well is there a solution for it then? and how to i whisper ppl xD
[22:48] <ultragamecard_> no
[22:48] <ultragamecard_> not in the bios
[22:49] <Bashing-om> !dualboot | Morit
[22:49] <ultragamecard_> did this computer have win8 preinstalled?
[22:49] <ultragamecard_> bye
[22:49] <Morit> Yes it did
[22:49] <Morit> Is that a problem
[22:49] <Morit> also thanks ubottu Bashing-om
[22:50] <Morit> and it's an SSD
[22:50] <Morit> is that also a problem ?
[22:50] <Bashing-om> Morit: Generally, the only problem is with bleeding edge new hardware ( WIFI, graphics drivers ) .
[22:51] <Morit> Well my laptop is the XPS 13
[22:51] <userme> hello with windows you have samsung kies but on linux u dont. what can you use for linux
[22:52] <Morit> userme: AirDroid, it's pretty similar I think
[22:53] <INEEDANSWERS> Ok well so how do i solve the shutdown, reboot issue then? have to change something in bios? i tried different shit there to
[22:53] <userme> airdroid
[22:54] <w30> userme, doesn't keis open by using a browser on computer? browser is same for Linux or winders
[22:54] <userme> its a download of samsung site
[22:54] <Bashing-om> Morit: SSDs generally are not a problem, unless Windows uses the SSD for fast boot -> Intel Smart Response .
[22:55] <Morit> I think it does
[22:55] <Morit> One sec i'll check
[22:56] <xangua> what this samsung kied does userme ¿
[22:56] <userme> for smartphones
[22:56] <xangua> so....what does it do?
[22:57] <w30> userme, if I remember right keis tells you to point your browser at ip and port of the phone
[22:57] <me> ciao
[22:58] <userme> u must have used kies before
[23:00] <Morit> lol, apparently the sound is broken if I try to dualboot my XPS 13
[23:00] <Morit> so I guess I'll have to stay with W8.1 :(
[23:00] <Morit> until it becomes stable
[23:01] <w30> android file managers can supply smb, ftp, protocols to send files to any computer with those clients
[23:01] <xangua> userme: You must not asume everyone has used the same tools as you
[23:01] <lone_wolf> hm
[23:01] <userme> u have to d/l kies to windows or mac and link smartphone to pc with usb or wifi
[23:01] <w30> userme, depends on which file manager you find on the app store
[23:01] <userme> some have i phones and use itunes
[23:02] <userme> airdroid from there site wont d/l to linux
[23:03] <xangua> userme: as you were told already, you can try Airdroid, aviable for any android device and any OS
[23:03] <w30> iphone is in the Mac egosystem and harder to go outside it
[23:03] <userme> i am
[23:03] <xangua> you don't download airdroid to linux, you just open your prefered browser userme
[23:08] <Morit> AirdDroid is the best solution, you don't download anything
[23:08] <Morit> it's all on the browser
[23:08] <OerHeks> living in a browser
[23:09] <Rochvellon> well if i want to remove some packages I get everytime http://paste.ubuntu.com/11927527/ but these packages are not installed
[23:10] <ultragamecard> I have a problem with flash on ubuntu
[23:11] <ultragamecard> the web browser says I have flash installed
[23:11] <userme> airdroid web
[23:11] <ultragamecard> but when I type "sudo apt-get remove flashplugin"
[23:12] <Bashing-om> Rochvellon: Have you tried to install the packages ? What results ' sudo apt-get install libpolkit-qt-1-1 ' ?
[23:12] <ultragamecard> it says not installed
[23:12] <xangua> ultragamecard: there is no "flashplugin" package
[23:12] <xangua> !info flashplugin-installer | ultragamecard also what browser¿
[23:12] <ultragamecard> what is it called?
[23:13] <ultragamecard> firefox
[23:13] <ultragamecard> let me try that
[23:13] <Rochvellon> Bashing-om: it's normaly installing
[23:14] <Rochvellon> and purging it is working
[23:14] <Bashing-om> Rochvellon: If that completes, try to install the other depencency " libkhtml5 " .
[23:15] <OerHeks> Rochvellon, did you update first, before installing?
[23:17] <Rochvellon> OerHeks: yes, i'd updatet that system
[23:20] <userme> got airdroid web and airdroid on phone works a treat
[23:21] <|aaron> just installed a new video card (amd firepro w7000) and its working, except when i try to switch to a console (ctrl+alt+f1, etc) my monitors just go into power saving mode and wont even come back with ctrl+alt+f7. i tried adding GRUB_TERMINAL=console to my grub config but that doesnt help. anyone know what my problem is?
[23:21] <squibby0> is any one booting ubuntu 14.04 on a macbook retina?  I can't seem to lower the screen resolution down, the screen stays stuck in black even though I'm pretty sure I chose the correct native resolution.
[23:21] <|aaron> using fglrx-updates drivers
[23:21] <squibby0> any ideas where I could look to troubleshoot this?  sorry about the herp derp question.
[23:24] <squibby0> .
[23:27] <OerHeks> squibby0, System Settings --> Display --> Scale for menu and title bars: 1.75 ?
[23:27] <squibby0> OerHeks, I've used that option and it works for the most part but I'm finding that I keep having to adjust the size for other applications such as firefox
[23:28] <squibby0> so it seemed like it might be easier just to set the right resolution in the first place.
[23:29] <en1gma> im on 14.04 and i just finished building a 3.14.5 kernel from source for x86_64 and everything went well but i need to do a format and i dont want to have to build it again
[23:29] <en1gma> what do i need to save in the /kernel 3.14.5 sources directory
[23:30] <en1gma> where i built
[23:30] <en1gma> i know about bzimage
[23:30] <Rochvellon> Bashing-om: all packages are installed but i get the same error
[23:31] <en1gma> thats at location "/home/en1gma/linux-3.14.5/arch/x86_64/boot/bzimage"
[23:31] <en1gma> isnt there headers or something i need to save besides that? maybe the config file?
[23:33] <Bashing-om> Rochvellon: ' sudo apt-get -f install ' any errors paste them, please .
[23:34] <Rochvellon> Bashing-om: no errors and no packages to install
[23:36] <andrewjs18> hi all, has anyone ever ran across this error when trying to copy an ssh key from 1 server to another?
[23:36] <andrewjs18> Bad port 'umask 077; test -d ~/.ssh || mkdir ~/.ssh ; cat >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys && (test -x /sbin/restorecon && /sbin/restorecon ~/.ssh ~/.ssh/authorized_keys >/dev/null 2>&1 || true)'
[23:38] <andrewjs18> command I was running: me@me ~ $ ssh-copy-id -p 1010 me@192.168.1.2
[23:38] <Bashing-om> Rochvellon: Did you also install libkhtml5 ? Also what results for install status ' dpkg -l kde-runtime ' ?
[23:41] <lasers> andrewjs18: I googled. Try: ssh-copy-id "me@192 -p 1010"
[23:41] <Rochvellon> it's strange. if i want to install it it says it is installed, but with dpkg -l kde-runtime it says it is not installed
[23:41] <andrewjs18> lasers, I'll give it a try
[23:41] <andrewjs18> 1min
[23:42] <en1gma> how can i make a kernel.deb backup of my current headers and kernel
[23:42] <en1gma> im on ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[23:42] <Bashing-om> Rochvellon: ' apt-cache policy kde-runtime ' . More than 1 instance installed ?
[23:42] <en1gma> i had to do a kernel patch and want to save it so i can install it again after i format. dont want to build 30GB again for nothing
[23:43] <HulkH> hello what's the name of the channel for Ubuntu OS for smartphones?
[23:43] <reisio> -touch maybe
[23:43] <Rochvellon> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11927849/
[23:47] <Bashing-om> Rochvellon: Look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/11927849/ .
[23:50] <Bashing-om> Rochvellon: I see that "kde-runtime" is not installed. Try " sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-runtime " .
[23:52] <redfelt> Hello. :) I have a question about "Use as hotspot," hoping someone can help. It seems whenever I use this feature, my Ubuntu always creates an Ad-Hoc network (computer-to-computer) even though I selet "Infrastructure" from the drop-down menu.
[23:53] <redfelt> I've double-checked that my wifi card supports "AP" mode using `iw list` and indeed, it does. Any other reason why I'm only getting ad-hoc networks and not able to share my wired ethernet to wifi?
[23:54] <redfelt> (This is a new install of Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on an old but functional laptop, the wifi cards in it work fine, just having trouble creating a hotspot.)
[23:54] <t0ke> Installing any package (apache2 for example) brings up 'cannot find package', but it seems to do it fine as 'su -'. Any ideas?
[23:54] <t0ke> I've tried apt-get update
[23:55] <redfelt> t0ke, maybe this is silly but check the read permissions for your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[23:55] <lasers> andrewjs18: Did you die ??
[23:55] <andrewjs18> lasers, sorry, no
[23:55] <andrewjs18> lol
[23:55] <andrewjs18> forgot to reply
[23:55] <lasers> andrewjs18: It worked perfectly? :o
[23:55] <andrewjs18> I need to adjust some server configs..my other server seems to be blocking it
[23:56] <Bashing-om> t0ke: "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade ; sudo apt-get install <package> ' ?
[23:58] <andrewjs18> gotta run, bbl
[23:58] <t0ke> redfelt, yeah everything looks good in there