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zequenceOvenWerks: I try to enjoy. The weather is not as warm as it usually is this time of year. We're the only ones swimming in the ocean, which is barely warm enough to stand :)07:53
zequenceYes, there's no other form of internet connection here, so I'm using my phone 3G service. This phone only supports 2G and 3G.07:54
zequenceThis is actually a laptop, so I should not say PC.07:55
astraljavaWell isn't it a personal computer, too? (as are Macs, btw.) It's a stupid term, in fact.08:31
OvenWerksastraljava: One could say a PC is a 286...12:44
astraljavaOvenWerks: Ahh... but now you're talking about "IBM-compatible" PC. :D12:45
astraljavaThe term "personal computer" dates back prior to the '80s, as when 80286 microprocessor was introduced in Feb. 1982.12:48
astraljavaMichael Dell estimates that there were more than 240M PCs sold in '05, and I doubt there were that many desktops, so I'm guessing he means laptops, as well. Still, if you stick to the actual definition:"a compact computer that uses a microprocessor and is designed for individual use, as by a person in an office or at home or school, for such applications as word processing, data management,12:50
astraljavafinancial analysis, or computer games", a Mac is no different, either. :p12:50
OvenWerksI guess so. But PC seemed to be an IBM thing.12:51
astraljavaSure, just in the middle. :D12:52
OvenWerkspersonal on it's own means one user, so maybe linux doesn't fit.12:52
astraljavaNo, I don't think it means that. I think it means users, so that not everybody use the same user account.12:53
astraljava*uses12:53
OvenWerksSo a "PC" used as a server?12:54
astraljavaWell, depends. A server as a separate box, or server applications?12:55
astraljavaYou can have multiple user accounts in your personal computer, without connecting it to an external server.12:55
OvenWerksThe one I have under the stairs is a box12:55
OvenWerksIt may have several people connected at once either ssh or web based12:56
astraljavaYes, in that case the machine you'd use to connect to that server would be the PC you're referring to.12:56
OvenWerksThere is no physical difference from my desktop... except it is an old 32 bit :)12:57
astraljava...as per that definition I quoted above. :)12:57
OvenWerksOne may do personal computing on a server box too. I guess what I am saying is that PC or personal computer is not a great term.12:59
OvenWerksOne could almost argue that an android or iOS box is closer than any desktop/laptop.13:00
OvenWerksthough interesting small servers have been made with android based boxen.13:02
astraljavaYes, I believe we can all agree that the definition is not to be taken literally. :D13:21
astraljavaIt's just fun to nitpick occasionally on things. :)13:26
OvenWerksI remember in some docs I once read that they refered to something that didn't make sense as being there for "hysterical" reasons.13:37

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