ochosi | bluesabre: hey, what's the status of our artwork update? still stuck? also, a gentle reminder for releasing xfpanel-switch ;) and who should be poked for finalizing your ubiquity patch? | 05:27 |
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bluesabre | ochosi: artwork: still stuck I believe, panel-switch: will get to it soon (on holiday now), ubiquity: the code is in trunk, so if they ever release, then we get it | 09:41 |
bluesabre | micahg: any news on the xubuntu-artwork package or packageset? :) | 09:42 |
Unit193 | Crap. | 09:46 |
bluesabre | Ew. | 09:48 |
knome | pleia2, you have this work item "Get first batch of flyers printed" - is that on a commercial printer or at home? | 11:33 |
knome | http://xubuntu.org/dev/derivatives/ | 11:38 |
pleia2 | knome: I think I can't do it on my own printer, since alignment or something, so the intent was going with vistaprint.com | 16:49 |
knome | pleia2, that's why i'm asking - there are ways to fix the alignment, and i have to do that anyway... | 16:53 |
knome | stupid ssh conf :( | 16:53 |
pleia2 | ok, well intend is vistaprint anyway :) | 16:57 |
knome | ok, then nothing | 16:57 |
pleia2 | nothing? | 16:57 |
knome | i mean, if the work item is for vistaprint... then i have nothing more to ask :) | 16:58 |
knome | except maybe that do you need something? | 16:58 |
pleia2 | oh, gotcha | 16:58 |
pleia2 | nah, I'll ask the team for $$ reimbursement once I have a final price | 16:58 |
knome | yeah | 16:58 |
knome | and you have the PDFs and all? | 16:58 |
pleia2 | vistaprint has sales often, so I need to find the sweet spot of when I have time + good sale ;) | 16:58 |
knome | haha | 16:58 |
pleia2 | aiming for september | 16:59 |
pleia2 | I probably do need the pdfs, or instructions for building | 16:59 |
knome | ok | 16:59 |
knome | i'll document it all today | 17:01 |
knome | or tomorrow | 17:01 |
knome | or sth | 17:01 |
sorinello | hello knome. How's life ? | 17:13 |
knome | steady | 17:13 |
sorinello | what are you working on these days ? asking about xubuntu | 17:14 |
knome | it would be best to look at the IRC channel backlog tbh | 17:14 |
sorinello | ok | 17:15 |
knome | sorinello, are you planning to get involved? | 17:38 |
sorinello | knome, to get involved in xubuntu ? | 17:39 |
knome | yes | 17:41 |
sorinello | well I'd like to, but my C level is almost 0, and I don't yet understand the echosystem, packages,versions, stuff like that | 17:41 |
knome | you don't need to understand pretty much anything what you mentioned to help | 17:42 |
knome | there are a lot of non-programming tasks to do | 17:43 |
sorinello | my background is mostly in Automated Testing, and as a language I work with Java, so I don't think that any of my skills could be useful | 17:43 |
knome | see above ^ | 17:43 |
knome | i think the "i don't think i have the skills to be useful" is a wrong way to approach | 17:44 |
sorinello | well I've tried "getting in" from several angles, none of them seemed to be very productive. But I'm sure that's because I haven't tried hardenough | 17:44 |
knome | what ELSE than programming are you interested in? | 17:45 |
sorinello | is there a xubuntu wiki where I can read around stuff to understand better the flows ? | 17:45 |
flocculant | sorinello: so you say you've got background in Auto Testing - maybe you could lend a hand with testing, we don't have automated testing - and it's unlikely at the moment that we will in the near future | 17:47 |
knome | sorinello, what kind of flows are you talking about? | 17:48 |
sorinello | well naturally I'd say testing, but testing an OS is different than testing a web application or DB testing. First I'd need to understand how Linux works :) | 17:48 |
flocculant | well ... | 17:49 |
sorinello | knome, flows like the product lifecycle, how xubuntu is built, external dependencies integrated, etc | 17:49 |
knome | (wrong!) | 17:49 |
flocculant | you don't actually need to know how linux works to help with testing | 17:49 |
knome | sorinello, you don't need to understand that to help with xubuntu really | 17:49 |
flocculant | you just need to be able to read | 17:49 |
sorinello | also, triaging requires knowledge of the porjects, modules, where this bug goes to, etc. Cos if I start triaging wrong, then I'd only create mess | 17:50 |
knome | sorinello, there's a beginning to everything - you seem to think that everybody expects you to be an expert on a subject if you start working with it - wrong | 17:51 |
pleia2 | sorinello: also, that's why we're here :) I ask questions about where to submit bugs, etc all the time while testing things | 17:55 |
pleia2 | sorinello: so I'd totally encourage you to check out our testing stuff at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ (click on Wily Daily, then look for the Xubuntu images) and then just ask here if you have questions | 17:56 |
pleia2 | I'll even ask questions like "is this supposed to work this way?" and "what features should I be testing today?" along with where to report bugs, like what pachage I should submit to if the icons look funny | 17:56 |
pleia2 | but we absolutely need more testers, this cycle we're really struggling | 17:57 |
knome | yes please, there are no stupid questions - except those that aren't asked... | 17:57 |
pleia2 | sorinello: given your background, it's also worth mentioning, that Ubuntu has a functional testing tool called autopilot for automated testing, we've never had a ton of luck with it but it's been a couple years since we've looked so it may be interesting to you to look at it :) | 17:58 |
pleia2 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Autopilot | 17:59 |
knome | there are people who have investigated automated testing here too | 17:59 |
knome | like dkessel | 17:59 |
pleia2 | more eyes always help | 17:59 |
* pleia2 back2work | 18:00 | |
knome | hf | 18:00 |
sorinello | thanks guys for the support. I'll take a look at the links you gave me | 18:03 |
knome | no problem, and don't hesitate to ask for help. | 18:03 |
pleia2 | where should we move this to? https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website/+bug/1475865 | 19:00 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1475865 in Xubuntu Website "system language setting goes wrong after installing system" [Undecided,New] | 19:00 |
knome | ubiquity? | 19:01 |
pleia2 | perhaps! | 19:10 |
flocculant | don't think so - not sure where though | 19:10 |
flocculant | appears that it the installing works | 19:10 |
flocculant | just obviously not Xubuntu website :) | 19:11 |
flocculant | given the op has dupe bugs for the same thing - I'd just mark the website one invalid | 19:12 |
dkessel | pleia2: given that xfce4 i slowly migrating to gtk3 we should have better chances at getting autopilot tests at some place in time ;) | 19:15 |
dkessel | sorinello: it would be great if you could help! if you want to give autopilot tests a try and if there's anything you need to know about autopilot, and i don't know it, i am sure we can find someone who knows :) just ask me, or ask in #ubuntu-autopilot or #ubuntu-quality. keep in mind that i am only reading irc 1-3 times a day though ;) | 19:17 |
pleia2 | dkessel: that's what I was thinking | 19:21 |
dkessel | knome: i got some reply regarding the infrastructure for the test automation server. if we can make any suggestion regarding the hardware we might need and/or hosting we want, we could possibly speed the process up. | 19:25 |
dkessel | also, pleia2 ^: if there's any HP stuff we could use... :D | 19:25 |
knome | dkessel, would some amazon aws do the job? | 19:25 |
knome | i was talking about it the other day with balloons | 19:26 |
dkessel | possibly, if there are way of scaling things up if there's demand? i mean, we would probably not need much at the beginning, and if it is a success, more power might be needed. but honestly, i don't really know how much power those tests need and how long they would run on "typical" hardware. | 19:28 |
knome | yes, i believe that's exactly what you can do with aws | 19:30 |
knome | and i also believe that there shouldn't be "any" problems with getting the funds from the community fund | 19:30 |
knome | especially if it's a setup for multiple flavors | 19:31 |
dkessel | Sounds good then. DanChapman wrote he will send an update on what he did so far, so I will wait for that first before I suggest that. I guess we should communicate with other flavors to inform them about plans and so we have support for getting the funds. | 19:33 |
Unit193 | Oh, I suppose I should actually ask here. Anyone have issues with fglrx on wily? I've downgraded for now. | 19:33 |
astraljava | Haven't even attempted the upgrade, yet. | 19:37 |
astraljava | But I have AMD graphics on my laptop, so could try live usb at some point. | 19:37 |
knome | Unit193, you like it, IS said they'll "just enable SSL [on the subdomains]" and "prepare ... SSL ... on xubuntu.org" | 19:38 |
Unit193 | :D | 19:38 |
knome | https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=26794 for the full reply | 19:38 |
Unit193 | astraljava: 2:15.200-0ubuntu7 is the good one. | 19:38 |
knome | bluesabre, i'll pinch your cheek hard if this DVD doesn't work with parole either. | 19:39 |
knome | it does... kind of | 19:41 |
astraljava | Okay, cheers. | 19:55 |
Noskcaj | What's the command to check if a binary uses certain symbols? | 20:42 |
Noskcaj | I want to see if libopenraw needs a transition (it's only r-dep is tumbler) | 20:43 |
Noskcaj | *transition for gcc5 | 20:43 |
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