[01:34] <Guest11141> If I have Ubuntu 14.4 installed is it ok to then install XFCE and delete unity.
[01:34] <holstein> 14.04. and its "ok" to do anything like that..
[01:35] <holstein> you can just boot into the XFCE desktop, and leave unity.. or, swtich to xubuntu.. many options
[01:36] <Guest11141> Yeah, I had a lot problems with the grub when installing Ubuntu and didn't want to deal with the same issues if doing a fresh install of Xubuntu
[01:50] <nomic> why not just use xubuntu
[01:50] <nomic> because its xfce
[01:50] <nomic> thats the X
[01:50] <holstein> doesnt want to re-install
[01:50] <nomic> its nicer
[01:50] <nomic> just back up stuff .. or even partition
[01:51] <holstein> sure.. its just that, *that* is the answer.. GRUB issues at install
[01:51] <nomic> i left ubuntu when unity arrived .. tbh @ the point of release it was very buggy - didn't even give it a trial -- now I notice everyone using it .. have just been watching a programming vid on youtube. . hes using ubuntu
[01:52] <nomic> or mint?  .. is mint unity .. it had the ubuntu logo topleft though -- must have been ubuntu
[01:52] <nomic> what desktop is mint?
[01:52] <holstein> lets discuss unity in the offtopic channel..
[01:52] <nomic> no
[01:52] <holstein> !mint
[01:53] <holstein> mint ships many different desktops.. cinnamon is the one they really push, AFAIK
[01:53]  * nomic unlikely to move off xubuntu
[01:54] <holstein> literally no one will make you, or is asking you to.. all im requesting is the offtopic chat to be moved to the #xubuntu-offtopic channel, where, discussions are welcome
[01:54] <nomic> i won't go in there - they are horrible
[01:54] <nomic> bbl
[02:22] <nomic> you help out here & they just give you shit if you even talk
[02:22] <nomic> fuck you holstein
[02:26] <w30> I was trying to shut off my touchpad and got mouse shut off also. What file does <settings><Mouse and Touchpad> modify?
[02:26] <holstein> w30: well, ideally, the touchpad.. but, i would test, and see what it does..
[02:27] <w30> holstein, I need to fix it with keyboard, no mouse!!
[02:27] <krytarik> w30: ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/pointers.xml
[02:28] <w30> krytarik, ahh... you are  my hero, ha
[02:28] <holstein> sure.. i didnt imply you should fix it with a mouse. im saying, i could imagine some hardware not responding as expected..
[02:34] <w30> holstein, ha nah... its the old PEBKC problem
[02:38] <auscompgeek> Guest11141: if you want your setup to be the same as an xubuntu fresh install, you can apt install xubuntu-desktop
[02:39] <auscompgeek> Guest11141: that will pull in all the xubuntu packages.
[02:39] <Unit193> Well, that won't be quite it, and I'd recommend installing the task over the package, buut yes it is closer.
[02:40] <holstein> Unit193: you mean, initiate task select?
[02:41] <Unit193> holstein: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop^
[02:42] <auscompgeek> oh, so that's how you install tasks using apt/apt-get
[02:43] <Unit193> Yeppers.
[02:44] <holstein> Unit193: thats handy..
[02:44] <Unit193> Yeah, gets less unexpected packages.
[05:05] <mpmctoo> :s Switching to the fglx amd drivers causes all sorts of weird stuff in Xubuntu 14.04.2, My desktop settings were reset, wallpaper & mouse theme choices. Interestingly the mouse theme seems to only work on certain windows! On the desktop it's the default but when using anything else it's the theme I'd selected! If I'd known that using these drivers causes this much hassle just to get h/w accelerated video I wouldn't have bothered
[06:30] <auscompgeek> this is why you set up your computer first *before* configuring everything to your heart's content
[14:10] <w30> part
[15:19] <xubuntu491> hi
[15:20] <xubuntu491> does someone now how to unistall my wireless card?
[15:20] <xubuntu491> just to leave the laptop without posibilities to connect to the internet
[15:21] <cfhowlett> xubuntu491, disable network manager applet would do it
[15:22] <xubuntu491> mmmm thanks ill try to disable it, and unistall it using apt-get thanks
[15:22] <cfhowlett> happy2help!  xubuntu491
[15:25] <w30> does any one know a command line to make xfce re-read the mouse config file after I edited it?
[15:25] <w30> something less than  reboot
[15:29] <cfhowlett> w30, ask #xfce
[15:32] <ronin> hi my desktop was restarted because of power failure, and now it's in the login screen, is there a way to login remotely that i can take a vnc connection to the machine?
[15:39] <ronin> I can get a SSH connection, but starting up a VNC server from terminal doesn't help, because it won't let me in before I have logged in to X
[15:42] <w30> cfhowlett, thanks
[15:42] <cfhowlett> w30 happy2help!
[15:49] <ronin> what login manager there is in xubuntu, gdm, xdm?
[15:49] <ronin> xdm?
[15:49] <knome> lightdm
[15:50] <cfhowlett> lightdm is standard on all *buntus except server
[15:56] <ronin> this fixed my problem sudo /usr/bin/x11vnc -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -noxrecord -noxfixes -noxdamage -rfbauth /etc/x11vnc.pass -forever -bg -rfbport 5900 -o /tmp/x11vnc.log
[15:56] <ronin> thanks guys! :)
[15:56] <ronin> now i can login righ to the x login screen (lightdm)
[16:15] <ronin> another question is how can I connect to a locked session?
[16:15] <ronin> to this lock screen whre it asks for a password
[16:15] <ronin> I tried with the same command but now I only get a black screen
[16:24] <ronin> this is the prob http://ubuntuqa.com/244471/xubuntu-1404-vnc-not-showing-password-lock-screen
[16:26] <xubuntu43w> hi
[16:31] <knome> hello
[23:08] <xfce> Hello everyone!
[23:09] <Guest5370> Hello everyone!
[23:11] <xangua> bye :P