=== Mitchell92 is now known as Mitchell92[A] [01:05] Hello, all. I have a small problem. My KDE wigets are is missing, and I can't get them back. [01:05] The desktop background is just black. :( [01:06] I have access to a terminal, but I can't run anything with alt-f2 or anything. [01:09] Oh; I tried starting it, but it segfaulted. http://www.pasteall.org/59790 [01:12] Tried sudo plasmashell, that worked. [01:12] But it had to be run in foreground; backgrounding it with & didn't work. [01:13] Now alt-f2 is broken. :( [01:13] But seriously, how do I kill KDE mounting a /disk drive/? [01:14] Weird. It restarted with chunkier text. [01:15] This is weird. [01:23] Made it into a keyboard shortcut. It loaded plasma with a different colour scheme. [01:23] _why_. [01:23] Oh, it started it as root. :| [01:23] anyone know easy way to replace kde with gnome ? [01:24] Install gnome, uninstall kde in package manager? [01:24] it's so easy ? [01:25] I /think/ so. But keep in mind the last half-hour has been me complaining that my computer doesn't work, so I might not have the creds to say so atm. [01:25] I installed KDE that way once. [01:25] My advice is to install gnome, /then/ once that's working uninstall KDE. [01:25] ok thanks you [01:26] A bunch of tutorials are here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu [01:26] nice ! [01:26] thanks you [01:28] Weird. I can't log out. [01:31] DDR: I had similar problem with my dual screen [01:31] KDE is bugged when I launch kodi with fullscreen [01:35] Benjx: I'm running with one screen, here, but it's a large one... how did you fix it? [01:36] install prop drives [01:36] install prop drivers * [01:36] As far as I know, I have those. [01:36] you have nvidia card ? [01:38] AMD or ATI or something. [01:39] ha ok [01:39] killall plasmashell ? [01:39] "VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Tahiti PRO [Radeon HD 7950/8950 OEM / R9 280]" [01:40] Done. Plasmashell, however, doesn't do the inverse. [01:40] Just says Containment graphic object not valid twice, then... nothing. [01:41] If I mouse over where the bottom bar would normally be, it segfaults. [01:41] oO I don't know how help you [01:46] Thanks, though. [01:46] I have no idea either, this install of KDE is just giving me /problems/. [01:47] I leave from KDE to gnome because KDE is buggy [01:47] Yeah, I'm probably going to do that too. Much as I like the customization and feel of KDE, if it don't run, it don't run. [01:48] yes I like it too === madeti_ is now known as madeti__ === madeti__ is now known as madeti_ === madeti_ is now known as madeti === sergio is now known as Guest93636 [06:32] Good morning. === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward [08:43] hi [08:46] sometimes with Kubuntu 15.04 it does not work the keyboard after the computer has left the suspension screen ... [08:47] not blinking cursor [08:47] i can't write the password === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away === jeremiah is now known as jeremiah_ === jeremiah_ is now known as jeremiah__ === jeremiah__ is now known as jeremiah-s [10:41] Hello all === Mitchell92[A] is now known as Mitchell92 [11:19] salut [11:25] Hi guys, I have problems setting up the language to german in kubuntu 14.04: 1) I have tried to set up through system settings and this what I get http://pastebin.com/Hyj3gMkM 2) I have tried to install also kde-l10n-de but nothing happens, even after rebooting 3) When I cat ~/.kde/env/setlocale.sh , I get this http://pastebin.com/UCuFu9HH which is strange [11:30] ping [12:05] anyone know why VNC on kubuntu is so darn slow? [12:05] I mean it is absolutely unusable [12:05] doesn't matter if I connect to it locally or over the internet === Mitchell92 is now known as Mitchell92[A] [13:08] when 15.04 came out I upgraded my laptop from a working 14.10, and got a black screen after login. Several other people had similar problems. Do you know if it eventually got fixed? [13:30] Hey folks [13:42] Taggnostr: try reinstalling bumblebee [13:43] also check your /etc/modprobe.d/bumblebee.conf [13:43] rom1504, never heard of bumblebee, is it something new? [13:44] last time the problem appeared to be related to nvidia drivers/noveau [13:44] does your laptop have 2 graphic card ? [13:44] anyway now I'm reinstalling everything from scratch [13:44] intel + nvidia for example [13:44] no, it's a really old laptop with only an nvidia card [13:45] can you check with lspci | grep VGA ? [13:45] 15.05 introduced nvidia-prime [13:45] *15.04 [13:45] which is broken on some laptop (mine for example) [13:46] I'll check as soon as I reinstalled it [13:46] oh right ok [13:46] last time I spent a week trying to make it work, but I had no luck [13:46] hopefully reinstalling also solves the pb [13:47] oh really ? when X doesn't start I usually ctrl+alt+f1 and check X related conf [13:47] first the upgrade from 14.10 failed, then I tried to format and install 15.04 from scratch and that also failed, then I reverted to 14.10 and that failed as well [13:47] failed == black screen after the login [13:47] yes [13:47] ctrl+alt+f1 was working [13:48] so you can try to change some stuff from there [13:48] I also managed to get borderless windows at some point [13:48] but none of the things I tried fixed the problem [13:48] oh and I found I need to use sddm and not lightdm [13:48] I think I changed that as well at some point [13:48] Taggnostr, in the VT/TTY run update and upgrade [13:49] BluesKaj, that's my plan, I hope it will just magically work [13:49] that would be better yeah [13:49] when I had problems 15.04 just came out [13:49] it will help === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away === Mitchell92[A] is now known as Mitchell92 [15:47] Hello folks! Got a real quick question, is Plasma 5 yet the default on Kubuntu? [15:47] 14.10, no. 15.04, yes [15:47] Thank you, just saw the news. [15:47] Well, then lets give it a shot today. Thanks. :) === Mitchell92 is now known as Mitchell92[A] [16:10] Hi, does anybody know what the proper value range for a 1920x1080 IPS LCD regarding horizontal and vertical frequencies. I needto define that explicitly in xorg.conf. I have various flickering issues both on kubuntu and ubuntu. I tried the get_edid command and all i got was trash. The info returned contained nothing readable. Has anybody had any similar issues? [16:11] All: I keep getting errors from my FireFox browser and know it is related to "keytracker viruses" that are now being stored via the HTML5 cache. Where do I find help to located and delete these? [16:12] naftilos76, which gpu? [16:12] The gpu is a new one GeForce 840M [16:13] i have had problems with the nvidia drivers but i suspect that defining the correct range of horizontal and vertical freqs could solve the issue [16:13] TBotNik: Is it a latest virus? [16:15] BluesKaj: i used the get_edid and here is what i got: [16:15] https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e66540f6bc3ee3d20893 [16:15] naftilos76, which driver ? [16:15] 346 from the official repos [16:18] murthy: No Idea! Any page that links a Google API installs 25+ KT viruses and minimum # of KT viruses on a Win box is 200 not counting others. That's why I don't do Winduhs!!! [16:19] naftilos76, recommended driver ? [16:19] Yes this is the recommended in the drivers manager. I used sudo nvidia-xconfig --no-use-edid-dpi [16:20] TBotNik: have you tried clearing the history completely and then run a virus scan using clamav? [16:20] to generate a xorg [16:20] naftilos76, btw lspci is a command to find PCI hardware [16:20] i know what the gpu is [16:20] let me give you the exact line [16:21] 04:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM108M [GeForce 840M] (rev a2) [16:21] naftilos76, run sudo nvidia-xconfig , but dunno if that will help [16:21] but dunno ? [16:21] what is that? [16:22] run plain sudo nvidia-xconfig? [16:22] yes [16:23] I concluded that i have to explicitly define DPI as well in Device or Screen sections [16:23] otherwise the login screen fonts are tiny [16:23] never seen that in nvidia gui [16:25] or heard of such a setting either [16:26] BluesKaj: i have seen that in a few links. [16:26] http://www.techytalk.info/lubuntu-change-fonts-dpi-when-using-proprietary-nvidia-driver/ [16:27] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2150662 [16:27] BluesKaj: i will try the driver and will get back [16:28] naftilos76, you set the dpi in system settings>applicatios appearance> force dpi settings [16:28] hi [16:28] i have done that but in this case the dpi applies only when i login the x session [16:29] the login screen is still problematic [16:29] Ryoma721: hi [16:29] BluesKaj: doing that in xorg solves the problem in both cases [16:29] i will see you in a minute [16:29] sometimes with Kubuntu 15.04 it does not work the keyboard after the computer has left the suspension screen ... [16:29] [10:47] not blinking cursor [16:30] i cant write password [16:30] naftilos76, xserver-xorg is not needed if you use nsysem settings in the newer kubuntus [16:31] Ryoma721: but are you able to open a tty? [16:31] murthy: That finds nothing, but the slowdowns and lockups of the computer only happen when either or both Firefox and Thunderbird are open, so know some virus in the HTML5 cache. Not sure if there any tools out there to find those. [16:31] no [16:31] i cant write password [16:31] BluesKaj: i am sorry i do not know what nsysem is but saw that changing things in xorg.conf affects the behavior of the lcd [16:32] I expect a new suspension of the screen and then starts to run [16:32] TBotNik: do you have anyother browser installed? also how much ram do you have in your system? [16:33] itty i think no [16:33] Ryoma721: using any graphics card? [16:33] yes [16:33] Ryoma721: are you new to linux? [16:33] no [16:34] i have a10-7800 [16:34] Ryoma721: are you able to login from a tty? [16:34] kernel 4.20 [16:34] Ryoma721: using ubuntu 15.10? [16:35] kubuntu 15.04 [16:35] kernel 4.20 [16:35] same problem kernel 4.19 [16:36] Ryoma721: do you have any kernel of series 3.19.0-X [16:37] yes [16:37] Ryoma721: does this problem happen when using that kernel? [16:38] I try 'in the next few days [16:39] Ryoma721: ok do that. If the problem is only in kernel 4 series, file a bug [16:39] with the kernel 4.19 for many weeks worked regularly [16:39] bug kernel??? [16:39] ya [16:39] may be [16:39] as freezer pc [16:39] write password.... [16:40] and after 10 minuts the pc work good [16:40] Ryoma721: if you like to debug, you can get guidance in kubuntu-devel [16:40] I mean #kubuntu-devel channel [16:41] try kernel 4.19 [16:41] i like last kernel because update driver radeon.... [16:42] 3.19 [16:43] Ryoma721: newer kernel are bound to bugs. You could check the kernel log for errors [16:43] how can I enable messages on Boot-Process to see, why the new 15.04 are such damn slow on startub? [16:43] startup [16:43] okkk [16:43] log kernel [16:45] prillian5: you need to remove the quit splash boot parameters from the grub menu and add debug and then boot. You will see the boot messages. do you know how to do that? [16:46] Ryoma721: do you know where the kernel log is? [16:46] is there a gui in kubuntu, or have i to edit /boot/grub/grub.cnf [16:46] prillian5: no [16:46] prillian5: you just want to see the error messages temporally right? [16:47] right. [16:47] so enter the grub-menu and do the setting there? [16:47] prillian5: then you can do it from the grub menu that is show during the boot [16:48] ok, what exactly to do there? [16:48] remove "quite" and? [16:48] prillian5: I will tell you [16:49] Ryoma721: should i pastebin the Kernel-Log? [16:50] mmmm [16:50] 18.18 [16:50] prillian5: during boot when the grub menu show up. at the bottom it will show you which key has to be pressed to edit the grub menu press that, now you will be able to edit the grub menu. remove the words quite and splash and then add debug and then press f10 key to boot. This is temporary and so you will have to do it every time you boot if you want to see the debug messages [16:51] prilian [16:51] quesry [16:51] query [16:51] remove quiet and splash [16:52] ya [16:53] Ryoma721: The kernel log is in /var/log/ [16:53] murphi [16:53] can query??? [16:54] i have log kernel [16:54] Ryoma721: do you see any error messages in it? [16:55] murthy: BluesKaj: If I look into kernel.log. does the numbers inside of the [ .... ] are seconds to show, when the entry was loaded at boottime? [16:55] no [16:55] restart kernel [16:55] Hi [16:56] murphy reload kernel.... [16:56] murthy [16:56] prillian5: Ya, but I am not suere [16:56] *sure [16:57] Ok, here is my kern.log: https://paste.kde.org/pycdhdge6 [16:57] The most needed Time is on Line 957 [16:58] between apparmor_parser and bbswitch [16:58] Any Idea, why the bootup elapsed so much time here? [16:58] mean "waist so much time here" [16:58] !paste [16:58] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [16:58] !paste | Ryoma721 [16:58] Ryoma721: please see above [16:59] !paste [16:59] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [16:59] Does the problem cause of appamor, or bbswitch on my kernel-log? [17:00] prillian5: so your problem is slow booting ? [17:01] yes, since I upgrade from 14.04 [17:01] takes more than three time as before [17:02] prillian5: try this command systemd-analyze blame [17:02] prillian5: it will show you which process takes how much time [17:02] okkk [17:02] where write ??? [17:03] murthy: thank you. I've checked this before. But seems not show the real Problem. But anyway, here is the pasetbin of the result [17:03] https://paste.kde.org/pxki0d215 [17:03] http://paste.ubuntu.com/11931121/ [17:03] prillian5: you were talking about this to someone yesterday? [17:04] Ryoma721: seems your disks are corrupted [17:04] yes. [17:05] Ryoma721: try this command sudo touch /forcefsck [17:05] Ryoma721: and then reboot [17:06] murthy: so if I look at the top 10 of the systemd-analyze-Result, I have nearly "15 Seconds". But the System is now much slower thas this. [17:06] Ryoma721: system will run a disk check on the root partition [17:06] before it takes nearly 50 seconds to boot (i7, SSD), now it takes more than 2 minutes to login-screen of kde [17:06] i format [17:06] sda2.... [17:07] prillian5: ok did you try the thing I told you [17:07] sda2 swap [17:07] prillian5: about how to see the debug messages? [17:07] deactivate swap [17:07] format [17:07] attivate swap [17:07] murthy: If I deactivate mysql and apache, the bootup is not really faster (not noticeable) [17:08] Wait, in the logs, where the big jump is... bbswitch... isn't it the nvidia bumblebee driver [17:08] maybe there are problems at boottime. Maybe I should try to remove manufacturer drivers for nvidia? [17:09] I normaly use the smaller "intel" Graphics-Card. So no really need for nvidia [17:10] Ryoma721: you better go to #kubuntu-devel for help. [17:10] Hi, anyone can point me how to install kubuntu on a usb drive? [17:11] prillian5: ya, you can try removing the driver and see if that helps. but take care. see if the nouveau driver is blacklisted [17:12] ok, sounds like a good plan. what are the steps to do this? [17:13] murthy: you think I should try first to use the nouveau driver and see if the boot-process speed ub? [17:13] up? [17:14] Thank you, I try to see if now is not problems [17:14] Ryoma721: ok [17:14] sudo touch /forcefsck [17:14] now and restart [17:14] on KDE-GUI for "Driver ManagementSoftware" I cant remove the Nvidia, only choose another one [17:15] thanks for help [17:15] prillian5: you need to remove the nvidia driver first and then remove nouuveau from the black list [17:15] where do i found the blacklist? [17:15] prillian5: can you see the option xorg.... in the driver manager? [17:15] murthy: yes [17:16] prillian5: the blacklist is in /etc/modprobe.d [17:16] prillian5: the xorg.. one is the default one that you have to activate to use nouveau driver [17:17] Alf: I forgot a webpage that explains how to install kubuntu on usb drive, let me search [17:18] ok. A grep in /etc/modprobe.d/ gives me bubelbee.conf and nvidia-331_hyprid.conf which have nouveau as text inside [17:18] Alf, murthy: Maybe try http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ [17:19] This installs the Distribution you like on your usb-stick. [17:19] with 2 Clicks [17:19] prillian5: he want to install on pendrive, not a live one [17:19] hiii [17:19] Alf: did you mean you what to create a live usb? [17:19] check complete hard disk [17:19] Ryoma721: hi [17:19] Ryoma721: good [17:19] thanks [17:20] murthy: I first try now the alternate nvidia drivers. If they not faster on boottime, I comment out the blacklist, like you told. [17:20] Ryoma721: problem still there? [17:20] Be back in some minutes. [17:20] murthy: thanks so far for your hints [17:20] prillian5: no [17:20] prillian5: wait [17:20] yes [17:20] I have to wait for the suspension of the monitor [17:20] after keyboard not works [17:20] prillian5: the alternate driver to nvidia is the nouveau driver [17:21] prillian5: so after you activate the xorg option in the driver manager make sure that nouveau driver is not in the blacklist else you will have display trouble in the next boot [17:22] This are my options: http://i.imgur.com/VVvHTHB.jpg [17:22] I mean first try 304, or 346 [17:23] prillian5: you need to use the last option xorg-x-server [17:23] as last option I would try xorg-driver, and comment out the blacklist ot nouveau?! [17:23] murthy: ok, you mean, the other ones makes no different? [17:23] prillian5: and when it says the selected option is activated, check if the nouveau driver is removed from the blacklist [17:23] prillian5: ya [17:23] ok. [17:24] one moment, i activate it now [17:24] p`no [17:24] prillian5: no [17:24] prillian5: the latest driver may solve the problem. but first lets see if the driver is the issue here [17:25] ok. How? [17:25] prillian5: so active the xorg-x-server and then check for the nouveau blacklist removal. I will tell you how [17:26] ok, I have choose the radio-button and change the driver now to xorg.-One. [17:26] how to check now the blacklist-entry? [17:26] I'm in /etc/modprobe.d/ now [17:27] prillian5:run the following command and paste the output. grep "nouveau" /etc/modprobe.d/* [17:28] murthy: https://paste.kde.org/poclhy0wo [17:28] Ryoma721: did you ask people in #kubuntu-devel? [17:30] prillian5: need to go, will be back in 5 mins [17:30] no [17:31] try my pc after check disk [17:31] and if i have same problem ask [17:32] murthy: ok. Thanks so far. Can you give a last hint? Have i to comment out the blacklist nouveau of each files? [17:33] prillian5: ya, comment out the lines that says blacklist nouveau [17:34] ok [17:36] bbl [17:40] Alf: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16988/how-do-i-install-ubuntu-to-a-usb-key-without-using-startup-disk-creator [17:40] Alf: try that [17:40] good night all [17:51] Hi guys, thanks a lot!! I'll take a look at your links [17:53] murthy yet the bug [17:53] kernel log no problem [17:54] murthy: Thanks! [18:06] BluesKaj: Do you know why would my bluetooth adapter works fne in ubuntu but not in kubuntu (not even recognized as a physical adapter h/w) ? [18:08] naftilos76, sorry I don't know, I've never used any bluetooth devices [18:10] Thanks man. [18:27] I have no found the problem why my pc start so slow. On boottime I got a message like.... : A start job is running for dev-disk-by\x2duuid..... [18:28] how can I found out, which device this is? [18:32] Ok, solved my problem now. It was a swap-entry for a not existing partition in fstab. [18:32] Now the System boots in 20 seconds again. [18:33] Thank you murthy for your help. [18:36] Theremy laptop LCD is broken, I need to get things urgently from my pc, I can ssh from another pc to it. I plan to attach an external LCD to VGA port and via ssh, change the display monitor in the settings> monitor of KDE. How can I do that? === emil is now known as Guest15144 [18:42] what might be the problem why my laptop is overheating . Samsung chronos 7 about 2 years old. started to get hot about 6 months ago [18:44] 75 C at the moment, started up about 30 min ago [18:44] well cleaned regulary [18:51] 80 === santiago_ is now known as siwelsiul [18:53] Voyage: What you need? Files? === santiago_ is now known as siwelsiul [18:54] * Voyage_ [18:54] Schalla, not files. [18:54] some browser cache data that needs a GUI [18:55] some other things. All depend on GUI [18:55] Ah, I see. Hm, I am sadly a noob in every regard to graphic configuration, but just to bring up another idea might be to install a vnc server. [18:59] how to open kde settings page via command line? [19:02] Hey team, do you know who is working on the Kubuntu builds right nwo? [19:49] Question: In kubuntu, how to change things by config files that are change via settings> monitor/display ? [19:54] Voyage_: Likely in kscreenrc. [19:54] hm [19:55] lordievader, no such file there [19:58] etc/X11$ ls [19:58] app-defaults core cursors default-display-manager fonts rgb.txt X xinit xkb Xreset Xreset.d Xresources Xsession Xsession.d Xsession.options xsm Xwrapper.config [19:58] helps ^? [19:58] Voyage_: What version of Kubuntu are you running? [19:58] 14 lts [19:59] Kwinrc has some display definitions. [20:00] Perhaps it is in there. [20:01] lordievader, http://pastie.org/10310361 [20:03] http://pastie.org/10310361 found the file, which line do I need to change? [20:08] lordievader, ? [20:10] anyone know why VNC on kubuntu is so darn slow? [20:10] doesn't matter if I connect to it locally or over the internet [20:10] I mean it is absolutely unusable [20:15] Voyage_: I am not sure why you are trying to do this via files...? [20:15] DrJ: Its VNC, VNC is slow. [20:15] Even turbo vnc with effects disabled is slow. [20:16] is there any other good remote access options then? [20:17] lordievader, Question: In kubuntu, how to change things by config files that are change via settings> monitor/display ? [20:18] laptop LCD is broken, I need to get things urgently from my pc, I can ssh from another pc to it. I plan to attach an external LCD to VGA port and via ssh, change the display monitor in the settings> monitor of KDE. How can I do that? [20:18] DrJ: xrdp is slightly better but can still be quite frustrating. [20:18] I probably use my computer remotely more than I do sitting in front of it [20:18] Voyage_: It is easier to set the resolution via xrandr. [20:18] recently switched from windows to kubuntu [20:18] but I'm about to switch back [20:18] because I just can't do without good remote access [20:18] DrJ: Windows is much better at the whole remote desktop thing. [20:19] yea, RDP is the best [20:19] Perhaps, and hopefully, this will change with Wayland. [20:19] what's Wayland? [20:19] A new display server. [20:19] ah [20:19] DrJ: http://wayland.freedesktop.org/ [20:19] already there :) [20:20] so probably not something we'll be seeing in the near future [20:20] Not likely. [20:21] well, right now I'm sort of getting around my problem by running windows vms [20:21] and having the stuff I access remotely most inside them [20:21] but that defeats my purpose of switching to kubuntu at the same time [20:22] lordievader: would this X11 forwarding possibly be a solution? [20:23] through putty [20:27] For individual applications, perhaps. For the whole desktop, no. === lance is now known as lance_ === lance_ is now known as lance__ === lance__ is now known as The_Fireplace === mkv is now known as m4v [21:32] Hey guys [21:40] I just installed Kubuntu, I am having an issue on it(I also saw it in Ubuntu when I tried it) involving the resolution. I have 2 monitors hooked up to my computer, one is a monitor, the other is a tv, and they each have different resolutions. The actual monitor works fine, but edges of the screen on the tv go a little out of the boundries of the tv, still clickable, but not visible. In the settings, I have it set to the same [21:40] resolution I set the tv to on windows, and on windows it didn't ever do this. Anyone know how to fix it? [21:40] And if my issue wasn't clear, I can draw up a visual example real quick and post the link [21:54]