=== chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [00:10] HEllo [00:10] I have a samsung young s6312 mobile phone [00:11] I want to install ubuntu on it [00:11] will Ubuntu perform well on it? [00:17] mzanetti, awesome! === mibofra is now known as Guest99474 [00:31] mzanetti, works great, thanks! [00:37] HulkH: that phone isn't supported, so you'll need to ask the community developers doing the port. If a port is available, you can find the only information we have here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [00:37] thanks nhaines [00:37] does Ubuntu touch have an App store like Android? [00:38] Yes, it's called the Ubuntu App Store. [00:38] how many apps in that store? [00:38] 553 apps, 1006 webapps, and 204 scopes. [00:39] That's not bad [00:41] Oh I checked the ubuntu App store [00:42] nhaines, many apps aren't free though [00:42] very few are free [00:42] especially in books and magazines [00:42] HulkH, most of them are free [00:42] I don't understand what that means. Most apps are free. [00:42] that's good === ecloud is now known as ecloud_wfh [06:33] Hello, should I report my observations and general expeience here? === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away === marcusto_ is now known as marcustomlinson [09:18] Laney, morning, I've just created a new MP for plugins-bad to use GError in hybris in the same way as in androidmedia. Please take a look but do not just merge yet because I'd like jhodapp to take a look too [09:22] hi abeato, good stuff [09:22] can we put this in in a second round? [09:22] I want to get 1.5 out to wily soon [09:22] Laney, sure [09:23] I'll ask jhodapp this afternoon about the testing [09:26] Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Tequila Day! 😃 === jamesh_ is now known as jamesh === conyoo is now known as conyoo|AW === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [10:50] hi [10:51] anyone familiar with the internals of the OS? [10:52] I have a BQ Aquaris E4.5, and cellular settings stopped loading (also, no sim seems to be detected) [10:53] m0n5t3r, http://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/touch/2015/05/07/hacking-ubuntu-touch-index/ [10:53] but /system/bin/logcat -b radio shows both sims are recognised [10:53] conyoo|AW: thanks, will dive into it [10:54] have fun [10:54] :P [11:13] m0n5t3r, do you have a shell on your phone? (adb) [11:14] jgdx: even better, ssh :) [11:15] m0n5t3r, great. There's a script, /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-modems, which could give you some useful information. [11:16] I think it has anonymous output as well. Mind outputting it here http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ ? [11:16] Service org.ofono not found on DBus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.ofono was not provided by any .service files [11:16] hm... [11:18] ofonod seems to be running [11:19] m0n5t3r, does this persist over reboots? [11:20] I rebooted 10 minutes ago [11:21] dbus seems fine (dbus-monitor --system shows periodic stuff from powerd) [11:21] m0n5t3r, look in the syslog for output from ofonod [11:33] mkay, so after reboot ofonod is not running [11:33] if I start it by hand I see stuff from network-manager in syslog saying it has found the data connection [11:34] ... and unity freezes, lol [11:35] wow, what did you do to your device ? [11:36] me? nothing, just installed some basics (vim, tinc vpn, an if-up script to add static routes to the vpn endpoints) [11:36] so you made the device writable ? [11:36] ... and enabled ssh [11:36] yes, and then I made it read-only again [11:36] well, that might explain it [11:36] why? [11:36] the last OTA installed just fine [11:37] dunno, if you installed stuff on the readonly system packages you installed could have changed bits there [11:37] and the issue appeared before it [11:37] ... and the sim was working, I tested the VPN [11:39] (btw, there is no need to make anything writable to enable ssh and you should use a chroot or lxc container to install dpkg packages ... there is no way to support you or take any bugs seriously from you after you canhed the readonyl bits) [11:39] *changed [11:42] I know I don't need writable image for ssh (the script just sets a system property) [11:43] right === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === _salem is now known as salem_ === Guest99474 is now known as mibofra === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [12:52] Laney, jhodapp says we are ready to land gstreamer 1.5 [12:52] exit [12:53] Laney, don't we need to fill the "Additional source packages to land" field in the spreadsheet? [12:57] abeato: yeah, can just do that and reconfigure it [13:07] kenvandine, I don't quite understand what is going on with silo 09, do you? === davidcalle_ is now known as davidcalle [13:11] mandel, udm and the click scope are stuck in wily-proposed [13:11] not sure why [13:12] the autopkgtests show as running for the click scope, but the job was done [13:12] so i kicked another job [13:12] mandel, ^^ [13:12] kenvandine, ok, I was just wondering if that was the way to go, I was very tempted [13:12] kenvandine, lets see what happens.. [13:12] kenvandine, because it seems it didn't see that the unity-scope-click autopkgtests are done running [13:12] Laney, ^ do you know who can help with that? [13:13] jibel, ^ [13:13] seb128, yeah, not sure why it wouldn't notice the tests finished [13:13] bug [13:13] i'm hoping another run will work :) [13:13] amd64 tests just passed [13:13] oh, you did a retry? [13:13] yeah [13:13] let's see [13:13] i386 are running now [13:22] jdstrand hi I am trying to get the jist of the discussion about xmlhttp request from within a qml app. specifically the mailinglist discusion started by bogdan cuza. [13:22] mandel, how's silo 17? did you start testing that? [13:22] jdstrand I am correct in understand that xmlhttp requests from a qml app will not work in an apparmor confined environment? [13:25] kenvandine, yes, but I did not get udm to work.. but I'm a little confuse, if we are doing a sync, is that comming from wily or from silo 09? === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [13:25] kenvandine, I'm getting SIGILL in gdb, so looking into what exactly is going on [13:26] mandel, it was a sync from silo 9 [13:26] of the source that is [13:26] and rebuilt [13:26] kenvandine, then something is going on there and is not working on vivid, I'm looking into it [13:26] bummer [13:26] ok [13:28] kenvandine, weird SIGILL there.. no idea why [13:35] * mandel lunch === mibofra is now known as Guest80174 === Guest80174 is now known as mibofra [13:57] jdstrand, hey, do you know if those apparmor DENIED are known and if not where they should be reported? (that's from my bq on rc-proposed channel) [13:57] http://paste.ubuntu.com/11930351/ [13:59] also [13:59] operation="open" profile="com.canonical.scopes.bbc_bbc_1.8.4" name="/dev/tty" pid=27592 comm=517420626561726572207468726561 requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=32011 ouid=0 === marcusto_ is now known as marcustomlinson [14:12] hello [14:13] anyone here running MX4 ? [14:16] seb128: the telegram one is known. karni is working on it. the timeout one is bug #1376408. the tty one is harmless and likely the scope trying to write to stderr, possibly because of 1376408 [14:16] Error: Launchpad bug 1376408 could not be found [14:17] the tasks ones is likely the same as the telegram one [14:17] one* [14:17] jdstrand, ok, thanks [14:18] dhbiker too general. Just ask what you want to know specifically [14:18] fwiw, karni said the telegram ones were likely not a problem [14:18] jdstrand, do you mean that installed scopes shouldn't try to write to stderr? Are there negatve consequences (except that log?) [14:18] it isn't so much the writing to stderr as it is having to allow access to /dev/tty and pts [14:19] jdstrand, k, I had issues where apps didn't notice that the device was not connected and I was trying to see if it was an issue with apparmor/similar to the issue discussed on the list [14:19] matv1, based on the reviews i was trying to ask if its really overheating (as 40+ C ) and battery life is also a factor for me [14:19] seems it was not and transient but I noticed those errors so decided to ask about them [14:19] jdstrand, thanks for the replies! [14:19] jdstrand, ok, thanks :) [14:19] dhbiker, all these reviews were done before the first SW update [14:19] seb128: thart might be bug #1404188 [14:19] bug 1404188 in Canonical System Image "QNetworkSession::isOpen() always returns false" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1404188 [14:20] jdstrand, yeah, that's the "bug discussed on the list" I was referring to [14:20] all of a sudden something that has been working for ages seems to be a problem [14:20] ogra_ 5th of july is what im looking at so then the issues are fixed ? :D [14:20] dhbiker, battery life today is between 24 and 40h depending on your usage, the device still gets warm at times but far from as hot as before the first update [14:20] sweet thanks for your reply ogra_ [14:21] and in ~6 weeks you get the next OTA [14:21] i was on N900.... went to lolipop and now im back in linux based phones [14:21] kinda miss them :D === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [14:25] kenvandine, does this mean is done => https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/check-publication-migration/136935/console [14:25] kenvandine, when was the job kicked? [14:25] 2015-07-24 14:21:04,172 INFO ubuntu-download-manager: Proposed pocket [14:25] mandel, so no [14:26] and it's still on the excuses page [14:26] * kenvandine grumbles [14:26] Laney, ^^ any idea why it think's a test that's finished is still in progress? [14:27] Laney, ubuntu-download-manager on the excuses page, the test in question is unity-scope-click [14:28] mandel any progress on silo 17? [14:29] kenvandine, just got out of the standup, I can easily reproduce it, loaded the debug symbols and looking at the exact issue [14:30] kenvandine: have you tried to get hold of jibel? [14:30] mandel, thx, we're anxious to get started landing the APN editor :) [14:30] kenvandine, doing it as fast as possible :) [14:31] Laney, seb128 tried to highlight him earlier [14:31] mandel, understood, thx [14:31] kenvandine, and, yay! apn editor! [14:31] kenvandine: I don't know about this, all I can do is skip it [14:31] jibel, can you help figure out why ubuntu-download-manager isn't migrating in wily? [14:31] but if it's broken, presumably would be a good idea to figure out why [14:31] Laney, can you skip the lava-server one? [14:31] why? [14:31] Laney, yeah... the tests passed it just thinks they are still running [14:32] Laney, it's blocking a bunch of things and from the history it seems like it never worked (or not as far as the history go back) [14:32] https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/wily-adt-lava-server/ [14:32] like devscripts is blocked by it [14:33] and it's pretty sure the issue is irelevant [14:38] kenvandine, udm works with content-hub and the webbrowser (download and img) but the downloads do nothing in the system settings app, any way to debug this? [14:38] kenvandine, logs or something of the kind [14:38] there is a log in .cache/upstart/ [14:39] mandel, oh... i bet i know why! [14:40] kenvandine, shoot! [14:40] settings wasn't built after udm! [14:40] kenvandine, ha, that is the reason1 [14:40] * kenvandine forces a rebuild [14:40] kenvandine, I'm like 100% sure [14:40] unity-scope-click too [14:40] content-hub was though [14:40] kenvandine, which would have the same problem.. yay for ABI changes [14:40] kenvandine, I though we did the rebuild, no problem then, lets wait and if it works we are good to go :) [14:41] kenvandine, the SIGILL is comming from openssl, so we can ignore it [14:41] mandel, we did rebuild it [14:41] but it didn't build in order in the silo [14:41] it built in parallel [14:41] so those built against the archive version of udm [14:41] kenvandine, oh.. well :-/ [14:41] kenvandine, nothing hard to fix :) [14:42] i forced a rebuild of everything except udm [14:42] kenvandine, waisted some brain cycles, but those are "free" [14:42] so those will build against it :) [14:42] haha [14:42] kenvandine, superb, I'll walk the dogs (takes less than the build) will test and wll hopefully +1 the silo === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [14:43] Very solid and favorable review on businessinsider.com this week. Way to go guys :) [14:45] http://www.businessinsider.com/meizu-mx4-ubuntu-edition-review-2015-7?r=UK&IR=T [14:59] kenvandine, I'll have a look [14:59] jibel, thx! [15:15] abeato: jhodapp: good to go? [15:15] Laney, just about, rebuilding quickly [15:15] why/ [15:16] Laney, had a superseded MR in that silo [15:16] an issue with the MP, which was superseded [15:16] oh right [15:34] meh, every once in a while I forget the location input in unity7 is broken and I get so frustrated trying to add stuff [15:34] and after 10min as usual I realize "ah, right" and set it to manual again [15:38] Laney, jhodapp media-hub is rebuilt, I made a quick test and all seems fine, I think we are good to go [15:38] weeeee === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [15:46] abeato: jhodapp: it flies free [15:47] \o/ [15:48] I need to do the libvpx rebuilds too [15:48] it won't get out of proposed until after that [15:50] mandel, silo 17 built [15:53] kenvandine, mandel u-d-m should be unblocked now [15:53] jibel, thx! [15:54] and gconf too [16:09] Laney, awesome [16:14] jibel, awesome [16:14] kenvandine, testing [16:14] jibel, what was happening with udm? out of curiosity [16:23] mandel, unity-scope-click was marked 'in progress' because the tests failed to match the version of the packages in the test request and the test result. In this case the test results are discarded because there is no way to know if they correspond to this request or not. Restarting the job fixes it most of the time, otherwise fixing the version manually is fine after verifying that the version the test [16:23] ran against are correct (and not older than requested) [16:24] and since unity-scope-click depends on u-d-m it was blocking it [16:24] ok [16:24] thx [16:32] jibel, one small question, the version of the so for udm was bumped to be 1, how do I tell ci to bump it in the changelog, or should I do it manually? [16:37] any idea how to debug this: ubuntu-device-flash --bootstrap --wipe, etc. finishes correctly, then the phone reboots, shows spinning logo for a while, reboots again and then just displays the bq logo forever? [16:37] (BQ aquaris e4.5, stable channel) [16:38] adb devices sees it, but says it's offline [16:38] mandel, no idea :) [16:38] damn, forgot to change the nick [16:38] --bootstrap --wipe is definitely redundant :) === irssi is now known as m0n5t3r [16:39] you want either or ... [16:39] sorry 'bout that [16:39] ok, will try again then [16:39] (just drop the wipe [16:39] ) [16:40] and indeed, make sure to have the right recovery.img (and to use the --recovery-img option with it) [16:43] I have this one: http://people.canonical.com/~jhm/barajas/recovery.img (suggested by http://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/touch/2015/05/05/hacking-ubuntu-touch-part-1-ubuntu-device-flash/) [16:44] yeah, that should be fine [16:45] flashed again, same thing: pushes the files, reboots into recovery, recovery does its thing and reboots again, it is stuck at the boot logo [16:45] a serial port would be useful :) [16:46] using --bootstrap ? [16:46] yes [16:46] and what channel ? [16:47] can i see your complete command ? [16:47] ubuntu-device-flash touch --bootstrap --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/bq-aquaris.en --recovery-image=/tmp/recovery.img [16:48] hmm, that looks all fine [16:48] Elleo, any progress on the autopilot keyboard issue? [16:49] ogra_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11931064/ [16:50] m0n5t3r, yeah, nothing wrong with that ... and you see the spinner with the weird progressbar after that ? [16:51] yes, and then it reboots [16:51] (i.e. after it rebooted in recovery) [16:51] yes [16:52] how long did you give it at the white logo ? [16:52] it might have to regenerate all apparmor profiles ... that can take quite some time [16:52] it's been there for more than 5 minutes already [16:52] give it ten more [16:52] ok [16:53] I'm on a train and signel is getting spotty, I'll leave it like this and see if it starts eventually [16:53] thanks [16:53] yeah [16:54] the apparmor stuff can be a pain of first boot [16:56] kenvandine: yeah, it's in silo 2 now if you fancy testing it, only fixes the SHIFT <-> CAPITAL state issue though [16:57] ah, not the SYMBOLS ? [16:57] kenvandine: no, that's a different issue (that I'm not really clear on the cause of yet) [16:58] ok, i can try it though :) [16:58] thx! === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOW [17:16] Hi All, Is ubuntu touch likely to work seamlessly with the new ASUS Chromebook Flip? I love the idea of swapping between desktop unity and touch UI === balloons_ is now known as balloons [17:17] thebishop: never heard of that device [17:19] popey, it's just coming out, though it is based on a fairly common rockchip chipset. I don't care so much if it literally works today. Just that these hybrid convertible devices will be able to flip between desktop/touch mode [17:20] sounds fun :) === balloons39 is now known as balloons [17:20] thebishop: someone who has one would need to port it [17:21] Elleo, ok, i tried it but can't say if it's better or not... since i have the SYMBOLS <-> CHARACTERS issue :/ [17:23] kenvandine: yeah, you can manually test the thing its fixed by tapping shift, then a key then shift again within 400ms (before it'd end up in caps, now it ends in shift), but it won't help with the symbol switch [17:24] yeah [17:27] so is there any way to reflash an ubuntu meizu? [17:37] alin, if you have an ubuntu desktop it's a breeze [17:38] jgdx: I do not this is the issue... [17:39] jgdx: and seems to be a little bit of pain in the neck to build the ubuntu-touch-flash on other linuxes [17:39] alin, what do you want to achieve? [17:39] "The pull-down has a major flaw, however, in that it's accessible at any time, even on the lock screen. " loool [17:39] change channels or --wipe? [17:40] jgdx: for the moment nothing have a way to reflash the thing if things go wrong [17:40] tathhu, that doesn't sound right… := [17:40] jgdx: reviews a phone and doesn't check settings,, 5/5. :D [17:40] :) [17:40] (http://www.engadget.com/2015/07/24/ubuntu-phone-review/) [17:41] alin, what's going to go wrong? [17:41] the system is read-only, and a factory reset will factory reset :) [17:42] jgdx: when you hack things go wrong... [17:44] hello, im going to install ubuntu touch on my android phone( Lenovo A526), and there are several images with different suffixes like "flo" or "generic" and ... . i don't know which image should i download. can anyone help me? [17:49] they are all code names for the various hw, like occam/mako for my nexus 4. [17:51] well, my phone is Lenovo A526. [17:51] i think i gotta choose "generic" , right ? [17:53] well, all the images will be hw specific, as all hw is different. if the images dont exist yet for it, it will needed to be ported to that hw. [17:56] for example, i could download the nexus7 image, and flash it onto my nexus4, howeve rit wouldnt run as they are spepcific to that hw. [17:57] so would need the nexus4 specific image. [18:00] brobostigon, and also there are 4 types of images, (boot,recovery,system,touch) . i need all 4 images? [18:01] qxmen31: are you looking on system-images.ubuntu.com? [18:01] im looking here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/ [18:03] system-image.ubuntu.com i where you should get from. [18:03] is* [18:14] brobostigon, i don't know which image i should get! and this is the problem :( [18:16] qxmen31: as i said, if an image for your device isnt there, then it is ready to be ported by someone, and that needs to be done. [18:17] brobostigon, ok, thanks. [18:18] yw qxmen31 [18:19] qxmen31: as in the example above, dont flash an image that isnt designed speficilly for your device, breakage central. [18:20] qxmen31, yes alright. [18:22] qxmen31: from what i can see, an image doesnt exist for your phone, so it is ready to be ported by someone. [18:23] brobostigon, can i do that by myself? if so , how ? [18:23] there is a porting guide link in the channel topic. [18:26] brobostigon, ok thanks. [18:26] yw, qxmen31 [18:29] haha, now that is bad bad bad [18:30] when I plug my aquaris E5 into the computer, with Fedora I can just browse all folders on the device [18:30] same with PC-BSD [18:30] but in Ubuntu [18:30] it can't connect... [18:30] wtf [18:45] kenvandine: hi! DO you have an idea about this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/638911/apparmor-denial-when-trying-to-open-file-using-content-hub [18:46] kenvandine: I think I'm seeing the same problem, but my app is QML [18:47] kenvandine: or maybe it's not the same: I'm seeing this: [18:47] Jul 24 21:31:54 ubuntu-phablet dbus[1798]: apparmor="DENIED" operation="dbus_method_call" bus="session" path="/" interface="com.ubuntu.content.dbus.Service" member="KnownDestinationsForType" mask="send" name="com.ubuntu.content.dbus.Service" pid=8284 label="it.mardy.ttrss_ttrss_0.5.1-0" peer_pid=6104 peer_label="unconfined" [18:48] oh no, someone is using the c++ API [18:48] mardy, and you have content_exchange in your policy? [18:48] that should allow access to that [18:50] kenvandine: yes, I do; but I just added it. Maybe I need to reboot or something? [18:53] yeah... the policy might not have refreshed [18:53] if you bump your app version i think it does [18:53] and it does on reboot [18:53] mardy, ^^ [18:53] kenvandine: ok, let me try [19:16] is there no support for webm in the Ubuntu Touch browser? [19:17] JanC: there is [19:18] JanC: http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-07-24-201801.png [19:18] thats one playing at the bottom [19:22] hm, then why streamable.com clips aren't playing... [19:22] seems like Android has the same issue [19:24] Chrome-on-Android [19:31] Hello guys [19:31] Is someone know if I can use openCV with ubuntu touch ? === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [20:11] Nakanut: i think someone has done that, yes. [20:14] Sorry, getting used to this kiwi clinet on the bq === salem_ is now known as _salem === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem === ev_ is now known as ev === martian-a_ is now known as martian-a