[00:05] <penguin42> mappps: If you want to send 5c back here we'll take it
[00:36] <popey> current fave subreddit https://www.reddit.com/r/OSHA/
[00:43]  * zmoylan-pi remembers the time i used gas cylinder as hammer to run network cable...
[00:44] <penguin42> popey: Eek!
[00:46] <penguin42> http://i.imgur.com/C2LhZW9.jpg  is wonderful
[00:48] <popey> kept me busy for a while, that did
[00:48] <popey> right, now bed
[00:48] <popey> nn
[00:49] <penguin42> night
[08:11] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:02] <knightwise> morning peeps
[10:02] <knightwise> hey brobostigon
[10:02] <knightwise> how are you doin today
[10:03] <brobostigon> hi knightwise, not bad, missing my gf, and you?
[10:46] <knightwise> Doin ok , doing some long overdue dyi in the office
[10:46] <knightwise> mounting a screen , hangin up some pictureframes
[10:51] <brobostigon> :)
[11:07] <knightwise> Long overdue stuff .. papercuts that lie around forever
[11:17] <brobostigon> my gf is away for a week with her parents and son,
[11:26] <mappps> hola
[11:28] <brobostigon> hi mappps
[11:29] <mappps> sup:D
[11:29] <brobostigon> waiting for click to come on on bbc news.
[11:30] <mappps> 27c
[11:30] <mappps> not so warm today
[11:30] <mappps> weird
[11:30] <brobostigon> i think we are due about 20c this afternoon.
[14:15] <Nokaji> Hi, anyone know how to get a blu ray player working? - I've installed unbuntu extras, also the three drivers libdvdread, libdvdnav & libdvdcss and set region. Nautilus can see the files/names. I've tried VLC & smartplayer. So far it only plays DVDs plus I can re-encode a blu ray disc to mkv (with some artefacts).
[17:30]  * p42phone waits for a train at Northwich
[17:31] <p42phone> Although it'll probably be a pacer so more of a bus on rails
[17:36] <p42phone> Oh, real train
[20:23] <daftykins> wow tales of the disconnected
[20:24] <daftykins> Nokaji: yes, you will get bluray playback going nicely if you use some lib substitution with makemkv
[20:26] <Nokaji> Now that is a familiar nick for some reason, I see, that's what it does. I've listed it for trial at some point, also noticed I've got K3B installed which seems highly rated
[20:29] <daftykins> Nokaji: i was under the impression that was an optical media management tool for burning discs in KDE?
[20:29] <daftykins> yeah makemkv is free if you just request a serial key or some such
[20:29] <daftykins> i found someones PPA with it in all built, but you can just compile if you so desire
[20:29] <Nokaji> yes, sorry a burner, not quite the same thing of course but useful nonetheless - if it works
[20:29]  * brobostigon really should practice the piano more, he is listening to genesis and cant remeber to play anymore.
[20:29] <daftykins> then it's a quick case of replacing a symlink - and hey presto players like VLC and Kodi can play bluray films
[20:30] <Nokaji> Someone kindly gacve me a coupla links, inc a PPA
[20:30] <Nokaji> thanke ye
[20:33] <daftykins> :D
[20:53] <daftykins> found some suspicious third party VPN app on my mums HTC android smartphone this evening, after removing it - 25 app updates popped up
[20:53] <daftykins> D:
[20:55] <penguin42> heck knows what else it did though
[20:55] <daftykins> indeed
[20:55] <daftykins> gonna factory reset it once i get a chance
[20:56] <daftykins> can't be having mother deprived of her facebook
[20:57] <Nokaji> daftykins: Just fired up K3B, the proggie looks pretty, is far more informative to a point where it inspires confidence and, more to the point, it has started to burn the disc, @ 4% progress so far
[20:57] <penguin42> yeh, k3b is the best I know of
[20:59] <daftykins> running out of optical drives at mine now i think, they're slowly dying and i'm not replacing them
[20:59] <daftykins> not even removing them from the cases since it'd leave a gap :D
[21:02] <Nokaji> this particular drive is fairly quiet as drives go, it's billed as top spec/quality however it will soon be out of date when they bring in the 4k thingy drives
[21:03] <daftykins> i don't think the optical drives will need to change for HEVC 4K bluray movies
[21:03] <Nokaji> I think it/they doesn't do 3D burning either
[21:03] <Nokaji> I heard something about it but this is all new tech to me, i don't even have a TV
[21:04] <Nokaji> 20% burned after some 8mins, burning 2.6x on 2x media FWIW
[21:05] <Nokaji> 4.7GB was getting too small and the discs too numerous
[21:05] <penguin42> daftykins: Some rumours of 100GB/disc with 3 layer drives
[21:06] <daftykins> oh yes
[21:06] <daftykins> might only need firmware to finer tune the laser power, will have to see
[21:07] <penguin42> I'm sure they'll take the chance to force you to buy new hardware
[21:07] <daftykins> :D
[21:07] <daftykins> hrmm i have a challenge on my hands
[21:07] <daftykins> my friends who own a shop have bought this cheap welcome matt that's meant to be capable of sounding an alarm as a pressure sensor
[21:07] <daftykins> it has two pairs of wires coming out of it, one for a tamper detection and the other for the actual bell
[21:08] <Nokaji> they announced 47GB discs over 20yrs ago, they've taken their time to work their way through though
[21:08] <penguin42> yeh
[21:08] <daftykins> weird thing is there's no power supply and you have to hook it up to your own doorbell setup
[21:08] <daftykins> i don't have a clue what i'd need to even test it :S
[21:08] <penguin42> daftykins: It's just a pair of wire springs that touch if you step on it
[21:08] <daftykins> ah
[21:09] <Nokaji> pressure sensor, it would throw a switch
[21:09] <daftykins> i wonder if i could rig a test up with a battery and something else
[21:09] <penguin42> daftykins: Old alarm systems just had loops that if they made contact/contact was lost they'd sound the alarm
[21:09] <penguin42> daftykins: Yes, it's junior school electronics - battery, bulb, switch
[21:10] <Nokaji> they should supply a spec and circuit
[21:10] <penguin42> daftykins: Of course I'm sure you can wire it up to a pi, provide a JSON basd RPC system and connect it into the cloud
[21:10] <penguin42> or just use a battery and a bulb
[21:10] <daftykins> :D
[21:10] <Nokaji> don't go cheap on a burglar system though
[21:10] <Nokaji> particularly in an industrial setting
[21:11] <daftykins> need to go down and prove this old phone line cable that's running from one end of their shop to the other
[21:11] <daftykins> also there's some ancient existing doorbell setup but i have no idea how it's wired
[21:11] <daftykins> i don't think it's really my area to try and mains wire this gadgetry
[21:11] <daftykins> power over some old cat5 phone wire will be sketchy
[21:51] <penguin42> daftykins: Erm no, I don't think those things are designed for mains wiring
[21:55] <daftykins> penguin42: oh totally, the doorbell thing might be mains powered and somehow be signalled differently separate from that
[21:55] <penguin42> daftykins: I don't think normally; there's normally a doorbell transformer and then a button on the DC side I think
[21:56] <penguin42> daftykins: Sorry, not DC, I mean low voltage
[21:56] <daftykins> ah well these aren't paired up you see, the doorbell type thing is some ancient looking setup in a church
[21:56] <daftykins> looked like they may've had the phone ring it previously
[21:57] <penguin42> hmm
[21:57] <daftykins> though i can't imagine the phone line power limit juicing that thing enough either
[21:57] <daftykins> i might just have to tell my friends it's way beyond my experience
[22:18] <Nokaji> hmh, my blu ray burn failed. fine to 93% then v. slow burn, then fail. Maybe too much on the disk, I left 130MB free space on a 25GB  disc
[22:53] <Nokaji> hmh, now they tell me
[22:54] <Nokaji> apparently it writes an additional 250MB to the disc (formatting disc for writing) for error correction, it can be disabled, if not you get eror correction and perhaps half write speed
[22:54] <Nokaji> so much for checking disc for available space