| justCarakas | can anybody help me with the "no network" bug on nexus 4 (mako) ? | 09:43 |
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| Robin0_0Hood | Hello! | 14:27 |
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| vthompson | If I'm trying to install stuff from a silo but am running into issues with the "/" partition becoming full (2 GB being used) is there a quick and (not) dirty way to free up space so that I can continue doing the upgrade? | 17:27 |
| vthompson | For my above issue, I'm just selectively removing packages in hopes that I don't break anything.... yipeeeeeee! | 17:58 |
| mariogrip | #Hype!! | 20:16 |
| Yay | Hello! I can't delete bookmark | 21:27 |
| matv1 | In the browser you mean? | 21:29 |
| matv1 | I think you can. | 21:29 |
| Yay | Yes in browser on specific bookmark I have issue on delete | 21:30 |
| Yay | Can I manually do it with file manager? | 21:31 |
| matv1 | I am not sure what you mean. A bookmark in the browser is a star at the end of the adress bar. It can be highlited or un-highlighted | 21:33 |
| matv1 | opening a new tab will show which urls are bookmarked | 21:34 |
| Yay | I was edited a URL and bookmarked it but it direct to a subfolder and wont deleted | 21:36 |
| jfred | trying ubuntu touch on an actual phone for the first time \o/ | 21:43 |
| matv1 | jfred yeahh :) | 21:43 |
| matv1 | which phone? | 21:44 |
| jfred | nexus 4 | 21:44 |
| matv1 | cool there do still run pretty good | 21:44 |
| jfred | I now have two working phones so I can experiment with one while using the other | 21:44 |
| matv1 | I prefer them still to the BQ | 21:44 |
| jfred | in case the experimental one breaks :P | 21:44 |
| matv1 | same here! | 21:45 |
| matv1 | you have 2 nexuses? | 21:45 |
| jfred | nope, the other is a nokia n900 | 21:45 |
| matv1 | ah but thats not running Ubuntu I guess | 21:45 |
| jfred | right, it's running maemo | 21:45 |
| jfred | I've been running sailfish on my nexus 4, but I figured I'd give ubuntu a try | 21:46 |
| matv1 | cool hope you enjoy! | 21:46 |
| jfred | :) | 21:46 |
| ziggai | i wana install ubuntu on nokia lumia | 22:05 |
| k1l | arent the lumia devices locked on the bootloader side anyway? | 22:05 |
| k1l | but the ubuntu needs at least working android drivers. i doubt that there exist such drivers for linux for that devices | 22:06 |
| AbuDhar | hey | 22:24 |
| AbuDhar | when will we see a stable version of Ubuntu Touch? | 22:24 |
| tathhu | depends on what you mean by stable :P | 22:25 |
| AbuDhar | :P good question. | 22:25 |
| matv1 | AbuDhar we have a stable version. It is just not aimed at general public yet | 22:25 |
| AbuDhar | when will it be aimed at general public? | 22:26 |
| AbuDhar | looking at a review of the Aquaris E4.5 | 22:26 |
| matv1 | ;P good question. | 22:26 |
| AbuDhar | but the developers are serious about this OS I think. | 22:26 |
| tathhu | when its readyTM?:D | 22:27 |
| AbuDhar | will it be a serious contender to the Android and iOS? | 22:28 |
| AbuDhar | to Android* | 22:28 |
| AbuDhar | I mean, is that the goal? | 22:29 |
| matv1 | AbuDhar yes | 22:29 |
| matv1 | with the added advantages of convergence | 22:29 |
| matv1 | convergence is key in the longer run | 22:30 |
| AbuDhar | cool! | 22:34 |
| matv1 | AbuDhar yes :) | 22:35 |
| AbuDhar | do you need devs? | 22:35 |
| matv1 | absolutely | 22:36 |
| matv1 | are you one? | 22:36 |
| AbuDhar | not 100%. | 22:37 |
| AbuDhar | I don't feel like one but I would like to develop my skills and help out. | 22:37 |
| matv1 | everyone can help! | 22:37 |
| matv1 | have you tried installing the SDK? | 22:37 |
| matv1 | its really first class | 22:38 |
| AbuDhar | matv1, I will later. | 22:39 |
| matv1 | awsum. hope you like it | 22:40 |
| AbuDhar | I want to develop apps for the OS. | 22:43 |
| matv1 | any ideas specifically? or do you want to help out on maintaining and expanding existing apps? | 22:45 |
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| AbuDhar | both. | 22:46 |
| matv1 | cool | 22:46 |
| AbuDhar | which language are the apps written in? | 22:46 |
| matv1 | native ones are mostly qt/qml | 22:47 |
| matv1 | but webapps html5 are also very powerfull | 22:47 |
| matv1 | if you wanna go deep you can do full c++ as well :) | 22:48 |
| matv1 | qt qml can run full javascript inside it | 22:48 |
| matv1 | qml is basically the interface part and javascript the actual worker for native apps | 22:49 |
| matv1 | have you ever used any of these languages ? | 22:50 |
| AbuDhar | yeah.. javascript, html5 :) | 22:52 |
| AbuDhar | and a bit qt | 22:52 |
| matv1 | awsum :) | 22:52 |
| jfred | Wishing the built-in messaging client supported XMPP, and spotted this in the messaging app code: "// FIXME: soon it will be more than just SIM cards, update the dialog accordingly" | 22:55 |
| jfred | that looks promising :D | 22:55 |
| AbuDhar | looking forward to the future of Ubuntu Touch. | 22:55 |
| jfred | indeed :) | 22:56 |
| matv1 | although I am not sure that the core messaging app will be extended to xmpp | 22:58 |
| jfred | the backend it uses already does, so hopefully they're just making it a more generic frontend | 22:58 |
| jfred | because that's really all it needs | 22:58 |
| matv1 | ok didnt know that :) that is cool! | 22:59 |
| jfred | yup, it uses telepathy, and telepathy-gabble is the XMPP connection manager | 23:01 |
| AbuDhar | can't I use the ionic framework to build apps for Touch? :D | 23:01 |
| matv1 | I am not sure. I am not actually much of a coder myself. Ionic I have not used | 23:03 |
| * matv1 is looking at ionic and likes what he sees | 23:07 | |
| matv1 | hmm ionic seems to be a sort of overlay for cordova if i understand it correctly right | 23:10 |
| matv1 | cordova apps are supported through the sdk | 23:10 |
| AbuDhar | nice :) | 23:11 |
| AbuDhar | good night for now. | 23:12 |
| matv1 | same :) | 23:12 |
| jfred | also relevant, telepathy has support for both XMPP and SIP audio calls, and video calls for XMPP | 23:15 |
| jfred | though that would need work to integrate with the UI as well | 23:16 |
| mariogrip | ahoneybun: (ahoneybun_) got new design at ubports.com, gonna make uni (where all pages have the the same design (not on wiki)) | 23:21 |
| jfred | hmmm not sure what I think about the centralized push notifications | 23:34 |
| matv1 | jfred how else would you want the os to integrate apps notifications? | 23:36 |
| matv1 | what don't you like about it? | 23:38 |
| jfred | either a system for subscribing to notifications from the service directly, or encrypted with a device-specific key | 23:39 |
| jfred | I don't like that the push notification server can see the contents of all notifications it's handling | 23:39 |
| jfred | for example, if you were using an instant messenger and put the message contents in notifications, the push server could read all your messages | 23:39 |
| jfred | it's also a single point of failure for push notifications; if the server (or servers, presumably) goes down, no notifications for anyone | 23:41 |
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