[09:43] <justCarakas> can anybody help me with the "no network" bug on nexus 4 (mako) ?
[14:27] <Robin0_0Hood> Hello!
[17:27] <vthompson> If I'm trying to install stuff from a silo but am running into issues with the "/" partition becoming full (2 GB being used) is there a quick and (not) dirty way to free up space so that I can continue doing the upgrade?
[17:58] <vthompson> For my above issue, I'm just selectively removing packages in hopes that I don't break anything.... yipeeeeeee!
[20:16] <mariogrip> #Hype!!
[21:27] <Yay> Hello! I can't delete bookmark
[21:29] <matv1> In the browser you mean?
[21:29] <matv1> I think you can.
[21:30] <Yay> Yes in browser on specific bookmark I have issue on delete
[21:31] <Yay> Can I manually do it with file manager?
[21:33] <matv1> I am not sure what you mean. A bookmark in the browser is a star at the end of the adress bar. It can be highlited or un-highlighted
[21:34] <matv1> opening a new tab will show which urls are bookmarked
[21:36] <Yay> I was edited a URL and bookmarked it but it direct to a subfolder and wont deleted
[21:43] <jfred> trying ubuntu touch on an actual phone for the first time \o/
[21:43] <matv1> jfred yeahh :)
[21:44] <matv1> which phone?
[21:44] <jfred> nexus 4
[21:44] <matv1> cool there do still run pretty good
[21:44] <jfred> I now have two working phones so I can experiment with one while using the other
[21:44] <matv1> I prefer them still to the BQ
[21:44] <jfred> in case the experimental one breaks :P
[21:45] <matv1> same here!
[21:45] <matv1> you have 2 nexuses?
[21:45] <jfred> nope, the other is a nokia n900
[21:45] <matv1> ah but thats not running Ubuntu I guess
[21:45] <jfred> right, it's running maemo
[21:46] <jfred> I've been running sailfish on my nexus 4, but I figured I'd give ubuntu a try
[21:46] <matv1> cool hope you enjoy!
[21:46] <jfred> :)
[22:05] <ziggai> i wana install ubuntu on nokia lumia
[22:05] <k1l> arent the lumia devices locked on the bootloader side  anyway?
[22:06] <k1l> but the ubuntu needs at least working android  drivers. i doubt that there exist such drivers for linux for that devices
[22:24] <AbuDhar> hey
[22:24] <AbuDhar> when will we see a stable version of Ubuntu Touch?
[22:25] <tathhu> depends on what you mean by stable :P
[22:25] <AbuDhar> :P good question.
[22:25] <matv1> AbuDhar we have a stable version. It is just not aimed at general public yet
[22:26] <AbuDhar> when will it be aimed at general public?
[22:26] <AbuDhar> looking at a review of the Aquaris E4.5
[22:26] <matv1> ;P good question.
[22:26] <AbuDhar> but the developers are serious about this OS I think.
[22:27] <tathhu> when its readyTM?:D
[22:28] <AbuDhar> will it be a serious contender to the Android and iOS?
[22:28] <AbuDhar> to Android*
[22:29] <AbuDhar> I mean, is that the goal?
[22:29] <matv1> AbuDhar yes
[22:29] <matv1> with the added advantages of convergence
[22:30] <matv1> convergence is key in the longer run
[22:34] <AbuDhar> cool!
[22:35] <matv1> AbuDhar yes :)
[22:35] <AbuDhar> do you need devs?
[22:36] <matv1> absolutely
[22:36] <matv1> are you one?
[22:37] <AbuDhar> not 100%.
[22:37] <AbuDhar> I don't feel like one but I would like to develop my skills and help out.
[22:37] <matv1> everyone can help!
[22:37] <matv1> have you tried installing the SDK?
[22:38] <matv1> its really first class
[22:39] <AbuDhar> matv1, I will later.
[22:40] <matv1> awsum. hope you like it
[22:43] <AbuDhar> I want to develop apps for the OS.
[22:45] <matv1> any ideas specifically? or do you want to help out on maintaining and expanding existing apps?
[22:46] <AbuDhar> both.
[22:46] <matv1> cool
[22:46] <AbuDhar> which language are the apps written in?
[22:47] <matv1> native ones are mostly qt/qml
[22:47] <matv1> but webapps html5 are also very powerfull
[22:48] <matv1> if you wanna go deep you can do full c++ as well :)
[22:48] <matv1> qt qml can run full javascript inside it
[22:49] <matv1> qml is basically the interface part and javascript the actual worker for native apps
[22:50] <matv1> have you ever used any of these languages ?
[22:52] <AbuDhar> yeah.. javascript, html5 :)
[22:52] <AbuDhar> and a bit qt
[22:52] <matv1> awsum :)
[22:55] <jfred> Wishing the built-in messaging client supported XMPP, and spotted this in the messaging app code: "// FIXME: soon it will be more than just SIM cards, update the dialog accordingly"
[22:55] <jfred> that looks promising :D
[22:55] <AbuDhar> looking forward to the future of Ubuntu Touch.
[22:56] <jfred> indeed :)
[22:58] <matv1> although I am not sure that the core messaging app will be extended to xmpp
[22:58] <jfred> the backend it uses already does, so hopefully they're just making it a more generic frontend
[22:58] <jfred> because that's really all it needs
[22:59] <matv1> ok didnt know that :)  that is cool!
[23:01] <jfred> yup, it uses telepathy, and telepathy-gabble is the XMPP connection manager
[23:01] <AbuDhar> can't I use the ionic framework to build apps for Touch? :D
[23:03] <matv1> I am not sure. I am not actually much of a coder myself. Ionic I have not used
[23:07]  * matv1 is looking at ionic and likes what he sees
[23:10] <matv1> hmm ionic seems to be a sort of overlay for cordova if i understand it correctly right
[23:10] <matv1> cordova apps are supported through the sdk
[23:11] <AbuDhar> nice :)
[23:12] <AbuDhar> good night for now.
[23:12] <matv1> same :)
[23:15] <jfred> also relevant, telepathy has support for both XMPP and SIP audio calls, and video calls for XMPP
[23:16] <jfred> though that would need work to integrate with the UI as well
[23:21] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: (ahoneybun_) got new design at ubports.com, gonna make uni (where all pages have the the same design (not on wiki))
[23:34] <jfred> hmmm not sure what I think about the centralized push notifications
[23:36] <matv1> jfred how else would you want the os to integrate apps notifications?
[23:38] <matv1> what don't you like about it?
[23:39] <jfred> either a system for subscribing to notifications from the service directly, or encrypted with a device-specific key
[23:39] <jfred> I don't like that the push notification server can see the contents of all notifications it's handling
[23:39] <jfred> for example, if you were using an instant messenger and put the message contents in notifications, the push server could read all your messages
[23:41] <jfred> it's also a single point of failure for push notifications; if the server (or servers, presumably) goes down, no notifications for anyone