[09:43] can anybody help me with the "no network" bug on nexus 4 (mako) ? === ev_ is now known as ev === psivaa_ is now known as psivaa === plars_ is now known as plars === daker_ is now known as daker === yofel_ is now known as yofel === dobey_ is now known as dobey [14:27] Hello! === howefield is now known as howefield_afk [17:27] If I'm trying to install stuff from a silo but am running into issues with the "/" partition becoming full (2 GB being used) is there a quick and (not) dirty way to free up space so that I can continue doing the upgrade? [17:58] For my above issue, I'm just selectively removing packages in hopes that I don't break anything.... yipeeeeeee! [20:16] #Hype!! [21:27] Hello! I can't delete bookmark [21:29] In the browser you mean? [21:29] I think you can. [21:30] Yes in browser on specific bookmark I have issue on delete [21:31] Can I manually do it with file manager? [21:33] I am not sure what you mean. A bookmark in the browser is a star at the end of the adress bar. It can be highlited or un-highlighted [21:34] opening a new tab will show which urls are bookmarked [21:36] I was edited a URL and bookmarked it but it direct to a subfolder and wont deleted [21:43] trying ubuntu touch on an actual phone for the first time \o/ [21:43] jfred yeahh :) [21:44] which phone? [21:44] nexus 4 [21:44] cool there do still run pretty good [21:44] I now have two working phones so I can experiment with one while using the other [21:44] I prefer them still to the BQ [21:44] in case the experimental one breaks :P [21:45] same here! [21:45] you have 2 nexuses? [21:45] nope, the other is a nokia n900 [21:45] ah but thats not running Ubuntu I guess [21:45] right, it's running maemo [21:46] I've been running sailfish on my nexus 4, but I figured I'd give ubuntu a try [21:46] cool hope you enjoy! [21:46] :) [22:05] i wana install ubuntu on nokia lumia [22:05] arent the lumia devices locked on the bootloader side anyway? [22:06] but the ubuntu needs at least working android drivers. i doubt that there exist such drivers for linux for that devices [22:24] hey [22:24] when will we see a stable version of Ubuntu Touch? [22:25] depends on what you mean by stable :P [22:25] :P good question. [22:25] AbuDhar we have a stable version. It is just not aimed at general public yet [22:26] when will it be aimed at general public? [22:26] looking at a review of the Aquaris E4.5 [22:26] ;P good question. [22:26] but the developers are serious about this OS I think. [22:27] when its readyTM?:D [22:28] will it be a serious contender to the Android and iOS? [22:28] to Android* [22:29] I mean, is that the goal? [22:29] AbuDhar yes [22:29] with the added advantages of convergence [22:30] convergence is key in the longer run [22:34] cool! [22:35] AbuDhar yes :) [22:35] do you need devs? [22:36] absolutely [22:36] are you one? [22:37] not 100%. [22:37] I don't feel like one but I would like to develop my skills and help out. [22:37] everyone can help! [22:37] have you tried installing the SDK? [22:38] its really first class [22:39] matv1, I will later. [22:40] awsum. hope you like it [22:43] I want to develop apps for the OS. [22:45] any ideas specifically? or do you want to help out on maintaining and expanding existing apps? === svetlana_ is now known as gry [22:46] both. [22:46] cool [22:46] which language are the apps written in? [22:47] native ones are mostly qt/qml [22:47] but webapps html5 are also very powerfull [22:48] if you wanna go deep you can do full c++ as well :) [22:48] qt qml can run full javascript inside it [22:49] qml is basically the interface part and javascript the actual worker for native apps [22:50] have you ever used any of these languages ? [22:52] yeah.. javascript, html5 :) [22:52] and a bit qt [22:52] awsum :) [22:55] Wishing the built-in messaging client supported XMPP, and spotted this in the messaging app code: "// FIXME: soon it will be more than just SIM cards, update the dialog accordingly" [22:55] that looks promising :D [22:55] looking forward to the future of Ubuntu Touch. [22:56] indeed :) [22:58] although I am not sure that the core messaging app will be extended to xmpp [22:58] the backend it uses already does, so hopefully they're just making it a more generic frontend [22:58] because that's really all it needs [22:59] ok didnt know that :) that is cool! [23:01] yup, it uses telepathy, and telepathy-gabble is the XMPP connection manager [23:01] can't I use the ionic framework to build apps for Touch? :D [23:03] I am not sure. I am not actually much of a coder myself. Ionic I have not used [23:07] * matv1 is looking at ionic and likes what he sees [23:10] hmm ionic seems to be a sort of overlay for cordova if i understand it correctly right [23:10] cordova apps are supported through the sdk [23:11] nice :) [23:12] good night for now. [23:12] same :) [23:15] also relevant, telepathy has support for both XMPP and SIP audio calls, and video calls for XMPP [23:16] though that would need work to integrate with the UI as well [23:21] ahoneybun: (ahoneybun_) got new design at ubports.com, gonna make uni (where all pages have the the same design (not on wiki)) [23:34] hmmm not sure what I think about the centralized push notifications [23:36] jfred how else would you want the os to integrate apps notifications? [23:38] what don't you like about it? [23:39] either a system for subscribing to notifications from the service directly, or encrypted with a device-specific key [23:39] I don't like that the push notification server can see the contents of all notifications it's handling [23:39] for example, if you were using an instant messenger and put the message contents in notifications, the push server could read all your messages [23:41] it's also a single point of failure for push notifications; if the server (or servers, presumably) goes down, no notifications for anyone