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metempoerheks, linked-in invite on your way ;-)00:03
uioHello, I am trying to scan with simple scan, but it says that no printer is detected... any ideas ?00:05
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ObrienDavewhich printer?00:05
uio... but lsusb detects it....00:07
ObrienDaveWHICH PRINTER?00:08
TJ-uio: Simple Scan needs the SANE drivers for the scanner device installing00:08
uioObrienDave: hp deskjet f429000:08
ObrienDaveinstall hplip00:08
uioTJ-: Okay.... I ran printer detection but I'll try the sane drivers.00:08
uioObrienDave: Thanks - installing now.00:09
TJ-uio: Usually, for HP, you need the 'hplip' packages and it configuring too00:09
uioObrienDave: So detection and use are two seperate things00:09
ObrienDavedetection is for printing, usually ;p00:10
TJ-hplip runs the scanner configuration too00:13
uioObrienDave: TJ- Thanks ! It's scanning :)00:15
ObrienDavemost welcome00:16
fallorewhen i try to play counterstrike go, supported natively on ubuntu 14.04, looking up and to the left is slower than all other directions. mouse accel is off, it happens with multiple mice. any ideas?00:28
leeand00I'm having a little trouble with ACLs in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.  I added a user, bkupusr to the group bkupusr, and I added read access to a file using setfacl, but the user still can't read from the directory.00:30
mgolischleeand00: what permissions did you set on the file?00:34
mgolischand did you restart whatever application tries to read the file after you changed the users groups if you set acls for the group only that is00:34
RCraigHallo00:36
RCraigIs this the correct channel to ask advice/support questions?00:36
notaeonRCraig: about ubuntu? yes00:36
RCraigThanks... let me format my question... one moment please. . .00:37
leeand00setfacl -dm g:bkupusr:r appdir/00:37
RCraigI have a Clevo P770ZM; Ubuntu works fine in a VM but no go on an install; the error/hang I get is: mmc0: unknown controller version (3). You may experience problems.00:38
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RCraigI cannot turn off/disconnect the card reader or USB ports in CMOS00:39
leeand00in the directory00:39
leeand00msg mgolishch in the directory00:39
RCraigMy machine stats may be viewed here: http://www.clevo.com/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=762&lang=en00:40
RCraigI sent a message to Ubuntu Advantage for help (no one in the forums can fix this); I'm retired and just a single user that wants Ubuntu as my main OS before MS pushes out Windows 10 to this new laptop.00:42
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RCraigDo you know if anyone has successfully installed Ubuntu on a Clevo P770ZM?00:43
MKCoinEveryone who uses steam, check your emails, as there was an exploit in Valve's authentication that allowed someone to reset your password without knowing it. It appears to have been patched, but I dunno how many people were affected.00:46
RCraigIf there is no one able to answer my question would you happen to be able to  point me in the right direction?00:48
notaeonRCraig: can you not continue the install anyway?00:50
RCraigNo sir. Install hangs on that error.00:50
RCraigI have also tried Mint/SUSE/Fedora/etc... no distro will install.00:51
RCraigHowever... they will run in a VM just fine.00:51
ObrienDavemost likely a kernel issue00:52
OerHeksRCraig, is there a BIOS update available?00:52
RCraigThat's what I'm thinking too. Is Linus available? ;)00:52
ObrienDaveyou would have to find someone with an identical machine to confirm that00:52
RCraigNo; I am running the most recent BIOS/UEFI release00:53
OerHeksRCraig, what if you put a blank CF card in it? sounds silly, maybe something different happens?00:53
RCraigI've posted all over the 'net and spoke with the firm I purchased my laptop through... no luck. I do see several posts where others have had the exact same issue.00:53
ObrienDaveRCraig, try installing an older LTS version. 12.04 is about as old as you can get00:54
RCraigI tried the Blank CF card as well as no card. Still no go.00:54
OerHeksYes, i read some too, some bring that machine back.00:54
OerHeksRCraig, 15.10 is still in development, but maybe that newer kernel solves your issue. worth a try00:55
RCraigIt is a beautiful laptop... just not Linux compatible (yet). This really gets to me... I have never not been able to run Ubuntu.00:55
RCraigWhom could I approach to address this at a kernel level?00:56
ObrienDavelinus00:56
RCraigAnd how do I contact him? I'm a little fish... he may listen though.00:56
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ObrienDavemaybe the 15.10 might be the way to go00:57
RCraigI wonder if Linus actually reads his email00:57
greenrideI have a desktop and ubuntu server both running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. I'm trying to wakeup another box using 'sudo etherwake <my_mac>'. It works from the desktop but not the server. Furthermore, wakeonlan works from both boxes. What could cause this? The error message is 'SIOCGIFHWADDR on eth0 failed: No such device'.00:57
ObrienDaveRCraig, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/00:58
RCraigI'll check it, thanks00:58
OerHeksRCraig, just last week, linus complained about the crappy spamfilter in gmail :-D00:58
OerHeksso he check spam too00:58
notaeongreenride: could it be using a different disgnation for ethernet say eth1 instead of eth0 ?00:58
RCraigI can do a Google search for his email addy on GMail :)00:59
RCraigThanks guys... catch you later. I need to hunt down Linus.00:59
OerHeksadd him > https://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts00:59
OerHeksthis guy seems to have it running http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-clevo-p770zm-sager-np9772-owners-lounge.768770/page-215#post-999893501:01
TJ-greenride: does the server have multiple interfaces; you need to tell etherwake which to use in that case01:05
cofffeebean  anyone kno if there is there a tech room in here for ubuntu ?? ..01:15
wileeecofffeebean, here you would want to give a issue outline, maybe you're where you ought to be01:17
stoopkidhi i'm wondering where to find a linux install that doesn't include the desktop environment?01:18
stoopkiderr ubuntu*01:18
wileeeserver01:18
wileee!mini | stoopkid01:19
ubottustoopkid: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD01:19
cofffeebean  wileew  ok..,  i'm having problems installing adobe flash in ubuntu..,  i kno how to set it up & run in windows  but NOT ubuntu..01:19
stoopkidwileee: nice thanks01:19
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wileeecofffeebean, Two types in ubuntu adobeflash-plugin or pepperflash which is in chrome.01:20
wileeewell besides some opensource, gnash is one01:20
OerHekscofffeebean, use chrome, with build-in pepperflash, or use the pepperflash-plugin-installer that downloads chrome and extracts pepperflash for ff.01:21
wileeecofffeebean, You may not know that adobe does not support flash for linux now so latest linux is way behind adobes latest, except pepperfalsh.01:21
cofffeebean  ok wilee this came about when i opened firefox & logged into a secure site & it said my flash was outdated..,  i downloaded the new version it told me to from adobe..,  i i dont kno enuff abt. ubuntu to get it to open/install etc. ..01:22
wileeethey both have their issue for sure just in plain use01:22
wileeeissues's*01:22
xanguacofffeebean: a "secure site" using flash¿01:22
cofffeebean  xangua  yeah  my online banking site..01:23
wileeecofffeebean, you wont get your linux flash that way it is from the ubuntu repos01:23
xanguawhy would anyone run flash on a bank site¿01:23
BuzzardBuzzflash is an exploit waitning to happen?01:23
wileeepeople want to see the money dance01:24
BuzzardBuzzno real bank would do that01:24
cofffeebean  wileee  then where do i get it from ??  ubuntu has a message up telling me the plugin is outdated & to upgrade/update it & when i click that link on - it takes me to adobe ! ..01:25
wileeecofffeebean, OerHeks gave you install command for the pepperflash01:25
wafflejockcofffeebean, what browser are you running?01:25
cofffeebean  xangua  i have no idea..,  but evidently  its needed there..01:25
wafflejockcofffeebean, looks like someone already mentioned you can just run Chrome01:26
cofffeebean  wafflejck  ff version 39..01:27
wafflejockcofffeebean, the flash plugin packaged into Chrome will update itself in the background FF is choosing to disable it from what I've heard due in part to recent exploits found01:27
OerHeksChrome will switch to HTML5 if possible.01:27
cofffeebean  i cud run chrome yeah..,  but i'm tryin to update my pc  thats only reason i'm asking..01:28
wafflejockcofffeebean, yeah it's a relatively recent problem but Flash has a pretty bad past as well when it comes to security exploits exposes by the plugin and with HTML5 features (like video streaming) there's less of a need for Flash for most uses, hopefully your bank switches over soon but I wouldn't hold out for Flash to get better01:29
OerHekscofffeebean, i think you have been answered. go get pepperflash01:29
wafflejockand that ^^01:30
OerHeksIf the update issue still persists, it is a scam.01:30
cofffeebean  wafflejack  ok  let me try chrome on there & see if it works any diffrent..,  does anyone kno the newest version of adobe for chrome ??  cuz one of the downloads i tried to install seemed to install  & it was adobe 16  if i read it right..01:30
OerHeks....01:31
squintyfwiw, there has also been an update of flash-installer (in repo).... ff stopped displaying the flash security error messages after updating with it here01:31
wafflejockcofffeebean, it'll have a version of flash from adobe built in Google maintains chrome and updates the plugin for users by default so nothing more to do just install Chrome and you should be good01:31
wafflejocksquinty, good to know01:32
cofffeebean  wafflejack  they just made or put-out a new website BUT i havent used this pc in a couple of mos.  & i dont kno if its my pc  or  their site..01:32
wafflejockcofffeebean, yeah it's Flash 18 in Chrome right now you should be fine though01:33
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cofffeebean  ok  chrome works ok over there it seems..,  but the firefox still gives that message out..,  so are ya'll saying thats normal ??..01:36
OerHekscofffeebean, I just read back, nobody days so.01:36
OerHekssays*01:36
cofffeebean  oer..,  u lost me  try again pls..01:37
cofffeebean  OerHeks   that pepper is for ff  or all browsers in linux ??..01:38
squintycofffeebean,  install flash-installer from the repo's and then head on over to the Adobe flash test page to see if ff still barfs with a security notice.01:38
xanguacofffeebean: firs I don't think you are forced or actually need adobe flash on your bank account site, second adoble flash hasn't recieved a major update since 2010 (only security updates)01:39
mgolischi think pepper flash is chrome only01:39
cofffeebean  squinty  theres my problem..,  i'm not sure if i'm installing it right in firefox..,  i dont kno enuff abt. ubuntu or linux..,  if i did i wudnt be asking..01:39
mgolischthink google made that as adobe didnt update flash anymore01:40
wileeemgolisch, do your research, not not even close01:41
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squintycofffeebean,  you don't have to.   just use synaptic, or apt-get, or software center to install flash-installer.  you should be good to go after that afaik01:41
mgolischwileee: how so?01:41
mgolischiam sure pepperflash uses chromes custom plugin format01:42
cofffeebean  where is this pepper falsh at ??  anyone one have a link to it & is there a certain version of ubuntu it'll only run on  or will it work with all versions ??..01:42
OerHekssquinty +1 > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash01:42
wileeemgolisch, you can use pepper in FF and other browsers, yes pepper is googles response01:42
mgolischrealy? thats new to me01:43
squintycofffeebean,  there is also a pepper flash installer in repo's   pepperflashplugin-nonfree       - Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin01:43
wileeebeen happening for awile01:43
mgolischmost browsers only implement npapi the netscape plugin api for plugins01:43
cofffeebean squinty whats the link to page pls. ..01:44
xangua(20:38:59) xangua: cofffeebean: first I don't think you are forced or actually need adobe flash on your bank account site, second adoble01:44
squintycofffeebean,  no web page link (linux can be different than windows installations).01:44
squintycofffeebean, as previously mentioned, use the Software Center, or apt, apt-get or synaptic package manager to install it01:45
squintycofffeebean,  Software manager should already be installed on your system (so will apt and apt-get but they are terminal command line driven)01:46
cofffeebean  squinty  true  but the type for windows & ubuntu are diffrent from what i've always seen & u hafta pick a version of flash to run on ubuntu..,  yes  or  no ??..01:46
xangua(20:21:25) OerHeks: cofffeebean, use chrome, with build-in pepperflash01:46
squintycofffeebean,  the repositories dictate which version of a program is available through them.01:47
dukestyxhey, having a world of pain trying to kill nouveau off, could anyone either direct me to the correct channel to discuss trying to disable the damn thing on startup, or does anyone know a surefire way?  I've added the blacklist to grub, updated grub, added a blacklist in modprobe, updated initramfs, at my wits end.01:47
cofffeebean  xangua  ok  thanks  &  thanks to all of u ..01:48
mgolischff does not provide direct support for ppapi nor do other browsers01:48
mgolischso unless your gona use some potentialy experimental wrapping thing your not gona be able use pepper flash in anything but chrome or chromium01:48
cofffeebean  mgolisch   what do u mean by " experimental wrapping " ??  i never seen that term before..01:49
xanguaend up discussing about flash while the real issue here is why would your bank account site need adobe flash to run?01:50
mgolischlike i mean that the existing ppapi2npapi wrappers are mostly alpha quality code01:50
mgolischid not try that01:50
mgolischwhat bank is that?01:51
mgolischsounds scary01:51
cofffeebean  xangua  yeah  that abt. sums it up..,  " had my bank not've put a message up there saying the adobe flash plug-in on my os not been outdated "  then i wudnt be here at all ! ..01:51
squintyxangua,  probably a "dancing credit card" or such to liven up their dull web page.  Doubt very much if involved with security end of things  :-)01:51
cofffeebean  ya'll have a good nite..  thanks again..01:54
black_13what is the best way to share files between an ubuntu vm and windows host01:55
h0mermount a shared drive01:56
h0meror scp01:56
h0mer(winscp)01:56
squintyblack_13,   samba is also another way ("best" method is a personal preference)01:57
black_13what is commonly used01:57
mgolischthe vm runs on the windows box?01:58
wileeeblack_13, linux only in a VM, no dual...etc booting?01:58
black_13ubuntu vm on my windows box01:59
mgolischif it uses bridged networking you could just cifs mount a share from the windows box01:59
black_13it used NAT01:59
mgolischmost desktop virtualisation software provides some sort of shared folder feature too02:00
black_13uses NAT02:00
wileeeblack_13, With a multiboot setup herte windows and linux I just use a shared ntfs02:00
wileeehere*02:00
mgolischit usualy does not require direct networking between host and vm02:00
mgolischthats probably a better option then02:00
black_13how is that?02:00
mgolischvbox or what do you use?02:01
black_13vmware workstation02:01
mgolischiam sure they have that too02:01
mgolischinstall vmware-tools in the guest and configure a shared folder, done02:01
black_13vmware version 11.0.0 build-230532902:01
wileeeblack_13, Why the VM?02:03
black_13why use a linux vm?02:03
wileeewhy are you not just dual booting, just curious02:04
mgolischit requires a reboot?02:04
mgolischisnt that enough reason?02:04
black_13i am boning up on linux for a job interview02:04
black_13i use linux ages ago02:04
black_13to do c++02:05
mgolischwish my hardware would be vt-d capable i could run my gameloader in kvm then02:05
black_13I have used windows02:05
black_13wileee: do you have a better method i should use02:06
mgolischhttp://pubs.vmware.com/workstation-11/index.jsp#com.vmware.ws.using.doc/GUID-AACE0935-4B43-43BA-A935-FC71ABA17803.html02:07
mgolischthat explains shared folders02:07
wileeenot really02:07
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black_13what about cifs02:12
fallorei made a bootable ubuntu USB that i'd now like to use as a windows install usb. however when i open the USB in gparted to format it, i get this error message. does anyone know how i should proceed? http://dpaste.com/3Y1RXS9#wrap02:13
squintyfallore,  maybe try  gparted -> device -> create partition table02:18
squintyfallore,  or zero out the usb stick with the dd program   sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx bs=512  (where "sdx"" is the value of the usb stick)02:22
falloresquinty, i think i figured it out, thanks. my issue now is that the iso is larger than the usb :C i should've checked that first lol02:24
squintyfallore,  :-)02:25
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leeand00http://askubuntu.com/questions/652807/why-does-the-other-acl-permission-have-to-be-set-to-read-and-exectute-to-a02:32
leeand00How do I use ACLs on a directory without allowing all the other groups to access the files? http://askubuntu.com/questions/652807/using-acl-permissions-without-allowing-other-groups-to-access-a-directory02:36
mgolischleeand00: you cant access the files?02:37
mgolischlike cat /path/file doesnt work?02:37
tewardleeand00: well, don't give the users +r on the files.  +x is needed to traverse the directory and 'see' what is in the directory.  whether people can actually read the files or not, that's other perm controls on the files themselves.02:39
tewardleeand00: you also haven't stated what your 'goal' is.02:39
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falloreim going to be doing a startup repair on my win7 partition soon and i'm worried about it overwriting grub or something like that. is there anything i should know before i get started?02:46
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wileeefallore, Probably wont but that is an easy fix.02:48
falloreok wileee thanks for the confidence :)02:48
RaulwynnHow can I get Steam to launch? I click and it does nothing. when I look into the issue it says I need 32-bit library so I type "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs" but I get this error "Package ia32-libs is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source However the following packages replace it: lib32z1 lib32ncurses5 E: Package02:48
Raulwynn'ia32-libs' has no installation candidate"02:48
OerHeksThere is a manual about grub/restore02:48
OerHeks!grub02:48
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub202:48
tewardRaulwynn: ia32-libs was replaced with multiarch support02:48
teward!multiarch | Raulwynn02:49
tewardbah02:49
RaulwynnI have just switched to Linux from windows. I'm sick of Microsoft but this is been an all day thing. What does that mean?02:49
tewardolder packages which were using ia32-libs are outdated, so you should check and see what version of Ubuntu you have, and what 'version' of the Steam package is being installed...02:49
OerHekssteam help > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve02:49
RaulwynnOkay so where do I start?02:50
tewardRaulwynn: go to that link that OerHeks just gave you, it helps.02:50
RaulwynnI've done more in the terminal today than I have ever done before02:50
wileeeit will get easier with time give it 6 months02:51
falloredoes it feel good? :)02:51
falloremake sure you set your font color to green and your background to black in terminal, so you can feel like you're in the matrix.02:51
RaulwynnIt feels like I want to play my damned skyrim and fallout lol02:51
squintyRaulwynn,  fwiw, there is also   #ubuntu-steam   (though not many participant here right now)02:51
fallorei feel your pain Raulwynn. stick with it! there's also #steamlug which has been helpful for me today02:51
RaulwynnFor some reason Dell discontinued support for windows 7 for my machine02:52
RaulwynnAnd magically, the new windows update messed everything up and now I cannot update or it dies.02:52
wileeeyou can upgrade to 8 and 10 free I think02:52
RaulwynnYeah marketing gimmick.02:53
falloreis anyone able to make sense of this fix: http://dpaste.com/221QDPA#wrap found here: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Counter-Strike-Global-Offensive/issues/44 ? i would like to do what he did but have no idea how02:53
RaulwynnI'm done with microsoft.02:53
wafflejockRaulwynn, unfortunately it appears those two games are windows only02:53
OerHeksRaulwynn, we believe you :-)02:53
wileeefair enough, I rarely use it but it has it's niche here02:53
RaulwynnI will run in wine.02:54
wileeeit's like face jumping all danger ;)02:54
mgolischgaming on linux sucks02:54
wafflejockRaulwynn, okay didn't see the whole conversation but wanted to let you know02:54
wafflejockmgolisch, it's gotten much better02:54
RaulwynnYeah :) I appriciate it.02:54
mgolischwafflejock: realy?02:54
RaulwynnWindows OS alone uses 1/3 of my videocard.02:55
mgolischtheres probably not even 10% of games on steam that work natively on linux02:55
RaulwynnIm sure with that back, linux won't be that bad.02:55
wafflejockmgolisch, yeah I have bioshock infinite and KSP and a few other games that are pretty modern... there's some company that's been porting a lot of stuff over though02:55
mgolischwhy steam on linux if i cant play any games?02:55
wafflejockhttp://store.steampowered.com/search/?term=&sort_by=_ASC&os=linux&page=102:55
falloremgolisch, i pretty much only play csgo and dota 2, and both of those work pretty damn well out of the box :)02:55
RaulwynnBorderlands..02:55
RaulwynnI'm down.02:56
RaulwynnSo it's telling me that ia32-libs is NOT req for x86_64 so where is this issue coming from?02:56
mgolischdid you read the next sentence?02:57
RaulwynnYes02:57
Raulwynnand I'm thinking it is a nvidia problem?02:57
Raulwynni'm getting a nouveau missing driver?02:57
Raulwynnthe only thing nouveau on here is the generic nvidia driver.02:58
RaulwynnOkay lets take this adventure in that direction.02:58
mgolischdo you have the nvidia driver installed?02:58
RaulwynnI've had a hard time with that on here. How do I install a .run driver?02:58
wafflejockRaulwynn, don't do that02:58
mgolischnot sure if steam works with nouveau02:58
wafflejockRaulwynn, just use the additional drivers dialog02:59
wafflejockRaulwynn, hit winkey for the dash and type additional drivers02:59
prosodyContextfallore: nah, mwatrix is pink 4mwy ubuntu ( <3 ) )) ) https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/09R02esa/Screenshot%20from%202015-07-25%2022%3A56%3A58.png02:59
RaulwynnI'm so efking lost.02:59
fallorewas that meant for me, prosodyContext ?02:59
wafflejockRaulwynn, you'll get a dialog where you can select to use the proprietary drivers but they've been vetted by the ubuntu team so less likely to have problems02:59
RaulwynnSo I'm not going to be using up to date drivers?03:00
prosodyContextfallore: "22:51:32 <fallore> make sure you set your font color to green and your background to black in terminal, so you can feel like you're in the matrix."03:00
falloreoh lol! i get it now prosodyContext :) cute03:00
fallorei was not seeing the forest for the trees :)03:00
prosodyContext=)) <3 <3 <303:00
wafflejockRaulwynn, they won't be the latest most of the time no, but if you aren't getting any benefits from the latest or worse it makes your system unstable then that doesn't help03:00
RaulwynnRight. I see.03:00
RaulwynnSo I see about 30 drivers I COULD use.03:01
wafflejockRaulwynn, should only be like 3 or 4 typically I think, the open source or a few of the last versions from nvidia03:01
falloreRaulwynn, you can use this as a guide https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/533434/linux/current-graphics-driver-releases/03:01
fallorebut, Raulwynn, if you can install it through the software manager it would probably be easier. just to figure out which one you want.03:02
RaulwynnOky spinning head.03:02
RaulwynnLets step back03:02
prosodyContextfallore: ftr for a funducational tangent, sadly www.matrix.org isn't yet connected to Empathy or telepathy or libpurple for that matter.03:02
oem???03:03
RaulwynnSo Legacy releases for GeForce 6 and 7 series GPUs03:03
RaulwynnCurrent official release: 304.125 (x86 / x86_64) I want 304.125?03:03
falloreprosodyContext, FTR = ?03:03
prosodyContextfor the record == ftr, fallore03:03
falloredoh03:03
prosodyContext>:))03:04
prosodyContextomlg oh my log god how could u not even.. ;)03:04
Raulwynndefine vetted03:05
RaulwynnAside from sticking it to microsoft like me. What is the main reason people switch to Linux?03:06
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OerHeksRaulwynn, you cannot buy it :-)03:09
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RaulwynnI understand this.03:09
prosodyContextOpen source defaults to vetted mayhaps, Raulwynn03:09
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RaulwynnI'm weighing the pros and cons.03:10
RaulwynnWhat does vetted mean? I'm dumb I know but I'm trying to learn.03:10
wafflejockRaulwynn, vetted checked over and given approval basically, but with regard to reasons to use Linux vs Windows for me I'm a web developer and I can get all the tools I need to use on Linux easier than on Windows (nodejs server side components etc.) and it's overall just faster and a better experience for me, it varies from person to person though03:11
tonyyarussoRaulwynn: Checked, examined, verified03:11
prosodyContextResearch and development peer review is about vetting to some degree, how much you can read is of course important to open source. But it takes expertise and technical literacy (or biteracy..) to really Trust Network if thats what you're wanting. Stable does not necessarily mean mature, that kinda sorta thing problem solving.03:11
falloreif you vetted a car for your gf it would mean that you checked it out for her03:12
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RaulwynnAlright. I got the right driver for my darned thing now I'm getting this "Running Steam on ubuntu 15. 64-bit STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(0) Xlib:  extension "NV-GLX" missing on display ":0"." and it's just sitting there03:14
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RaulwynnI may need to restart?03:14
wafflejockRaulwynn, you restart after driver03:14
wafflejockyeah03:14
Raulwynnhahahahaha03:14
RaulwynnI saw that coming03:14
wafflejockhehe03:14
RaulwynnBe right back.03:14
KVK_blackhello03:17
RaulwynnIs it common to see a ADSP-219x error?03:19
RaulwynnOh my lawdie. It's working!03:20
RaulwynnI would like to ask. Is dealing with tech mishaps worth saving a few hundred switching to Linux?03:20
tgm4883Raulwynn: I wouldn't switch to Linux just because it's cheaper.03:23
tgm4883Raulwynn: There are many reasons to switch to Linux, but I don't believe that price should be a factor03:24
bashfr3akRaulwynn if you don't play games Linux is better than Windows/OSX in every way03:25
tgm4883bashfr3ak: I play games and I still find it better03:26
bashfr3aktgm4883 could you play blizzard games on it ? properly?03:26
tgm4883bashfr3ak: but you're incorrect. It's not better in every way03:26
notaeonjust check hardware is supported before you buy anything and don't expect any official linux support for most things03:27
tgm4883bashfr3ak: I've played starcraft 2 on it just fine03:27
bashfr3akI am a little bias, but to my POV it is better.03:27
RaulAndroidOkay. So i have installed a nvidia driver and now i cantvgetvthe compy to bood.03:27
bashfr3aktgm4883 doubt it was optimal ....03:27
bashfr3aktgm4883 also you can't play like Heroes of the storm on it03:27
tgm4883bashfr3ak: I'm not sure what your angle is here03:27
RaulAndroidACPI PCC probe failed. And /dev/sdd like 8 different ones say no medium found03:28
bashfr3aktgm4883 why do you think Linux is not superior in every way ?03:28
RaulAndroidHowvto i get back on?03:28
tgm4883bashfr3ak: driver support for one03:28
bashfr3aktgm4883 And?03:29
tgm4883bashfr3ak: well you said yourself, game support03:29
bashfr3aktgm4883 welp i guess if you don't like to do some google searching and configuration you could have some driver issues, but that will die soon03:30
notaeonRaulAndroid: some stuff http://askubuntu.com/questions/613969/acpi-ppc-probe-failed-starting-version-219-nvidia03:30
tgm4883bashfr3ak: again, I'm not sure what your angle is. All operating systems have their strengths and their flaws. Blindly following something leads to trouble03:31
bashfr3aktgm4883 Windows and OSX are abominations with more flaws than advantages03:32
tgm4883bashfr3ak: use the right tool for the job.03:32
bazhangbashfr3ak, were there some support questions in there03:32
notaeonguys the original asker has left03:33
RaulAndroidTells me to change a file but i cant get it to boot.03:33
bazhangRaulAndroid, what does03:34
notaeonRaulAndroid: can you get to grub though?03:34
bashfr3aktgm4883 i can have all the tools i need with Linux. I can have a fully working office for free, the best enterprise server options and dev environment on linux. while still having access to pretty much all basic desktop stuff for free on Linux without a GUI full of straight up BS and not even worry about adware, viruses, etc03:34
notaeonRaulAndroid: try an old kernel if you can03:34
bazhangbashfr3ak, this is not the channel for that03:35
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bashfr3akbazhang k, sorry03:35
tgm4883bashfr3ak: I'd be happy to continue this conversation with you if you want in #ubuntu-offtopic but they are correct, this is OT for this channel03:35
bazhangtry #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux bashfr3ak03:35
combatcrabIs there a realatively easy way to switch the wallpaper for the 15.04 login screen? I've used "sudo nautilus" to change the background from user/share/backgrounds, but this does nothing.03:35
TechMongerwhat is the hot key to change the terminals collors?03:38
RaulAndroidSo my terminal wont pull anythingvup i cantcseem to edit the file...03:38
RaulAndroidHow do i modify grub?03:38
wileeeRaulAndroid, the grub2 manual is on line, it's all there.03:42
RaulAndroidOkay. I got it.03:42
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RaulwynnSo far so good. I'm online @wileee This is ubuntu support, no?03:43
bazhang!grub2 | Raulwynn have a read03:44
ubottuRaulwynn have a read: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub203:44
RaulwynnI'm good now03:44
RaulwynnI'm on the computer,03:44
RaulwynnI reloaded through grub.03:44
notaeonTechMonger: change colors how do you mean? the only way i've changed colors is by modifying .Xdefaults03:44
wileeeRaulAndroid, Personally I just put an image behind grub that is fairly simple.03:45
TechMongernotaeon i want to be able to swich profiles with hotkeys03:45
TechMongerso when i have open multiple terminals i can have them different colors03:46
TechMongeralso. i installed ubuntu on another machine and it does not make the folders different colors that the files. anyone know why this is? and how to get it do to that03:48
TechMongerthan^03:48
TechMongersorry i am tired03:48
tonyyarussoTechMonger: Do you mean in ls output?03:49
TechMongeryes03:49
tonyyarussoTechMonger: --color03:50
TechMongernevermind03:50
TechMongerhe was using dir03:50
TechMongernot ls03:50
TechMongerbut does anyone know a hot key to change terminal profiles?03:51
wafflejockTechMonger, not directly but you can use setterm to set various options and could put a setterm call in an executable script then call it with a hotkey03:53
TechMongeri could have swore i seen my co worker open different terminals that were different colors03:55
TechMongerand he did it fast03:55
wafflejockTechMonger, depends on the terminal wrapper application I imagine to some degree too03:55
wafflejockTechMonger, like Konsole or Guake or whatever will have different hotkeys03:55
TechMongerhmm03:56
wafflejockTechMonger, I did the setterm thing in my .bashrc on a server so when I login it changes the terminal text and background and used .bash_logout to switch it back03:56
TechMongerits not worth that much to me03:57
TechMongeri guess ill just manualy change the profile03:57
wafflejockTechMonger, yeah not a huge deal someone asked the other day about it though so I gave it a shot03:57
TechMongeryea thx03:57
RaulAndroidComputer crashed after Fatal Error when steam tried updating after start up.03:57
RaulAndroidWhat does i8k unable to get smm dell signature?03:58
wafflejockRaulAndroid, one sec03:59
wafflejockRaulAndroid, looks like some kernel problem maybe but these are older posts03:59
wafflejockRaulAndroid, you on Ubuntu 14.04 ? or some other version?04:00
RaulAndroid14.0404:00
RaulAndroidFresh install today. Been having videocard issues too.04:00
wafflejockRaulAndroid, not sure this post is for 15.04 but might be related... trying to do some digging though never seen that problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/650164/unable-to-get-smm-dell-signature04:01
RaulAndroid@wafflejock ive completely reinstalled ubuntu and everything to get this going.04:04
wafflejockRaulAndroid, it appears it has something to do with the temperature sensors and fan control but nothing definitive so far on how to fix04:04
RaulAndroidWhat?04:04
wafflejockthe i8k error04:04
rakeshdoes anyone have idea about?04:04
RaulAndroidTemperature sensors ahh okay04:04
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Guest70173Ign http://au.archive.ubuntu.com vivid-backports/universe Translation-en_AU04:05
Guest70173Err http://au.archive.ubuntu.com vivid/main Sources 503  Service unavailable04:05
Guest70173Err http://au.archive.ubuntu.com vivid/restricted Sources04:05
Guest70173Can anyone advice on this, help would be appreciated04:05
xanguachange to main repository or try later Guest7017304:05
MiarHi, I am having a problem with Ubuntu. Could someone help me out?04:16
tgm4883RaulAndroid: yes the i8k stuff is for reading dell temperture sensors and fan controls04:17
Raulwynn@tgm4883 Is this something to be concerned about?04:19
RaulwynnI force all fans to 100% via bios04:19
MiarI have GNOME, Unity and KDE on Ubuntu. GNOME and Unity work fine. But when I launch KDE, it hangs after around 2 mins. Also unable to logout from kde or launch the terminal.04:20
tgm4883Raulwynn: where are you seeing this error?04:20
combatcrab15.04 How can I change the background of the login screen? Using "sudo nautilus" and changing the background from user/share/backgrounds doesn't seem to work.04:20
escobarcombatcrab: probably up to lightdm's /etc/ config04:21
Raulwynnhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11940173/04:23
Raulwynnline 88204:24
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combatcrab@escobar Thanks, I'll check that out.04:25
RaulwynnSo now I think my video drivers are good...04:25
combatcrabescobar thanks, I'll check that out.04:25
escobarRaulwynn: nice04:26
RaulwynnSteam still won't launch giving me a fatal error, Where do I go from here?04:26
escobaregrep -ilr 'background|wallpaper' /etc/lightd*04:26
tgm4883Raulwynn: IDK if it's an issue. What is the fatal error?04:27
RaulwynnI'm replicating issue, please hold.04:27
wafflejocktgm4883, he'd been trying to just update Steam and the system crashed just trying to determine exactly why I believe04:28
RaulwynnFailed to load steamui.so04:28
tgm4883I don't think I've seen that error in a long time04:30
escobarI've never seen it =)04:30
tgm4883I want to say it was a graphics driver issue, but I don't recall04:31
RaulwynnI just fixed the driver after 4 hours it isn't that04:32
Raulwynnthe only errors that i'm getting (i can't remember the command) is the i8k whatever one but i use bios to force fans to 100% all the time anyway.04:33
wafflejockRaulwynn, no some other problem looks like some missing dependencies or something did you install steam using the ubuntu software center04:33
TechMongerwhat options do you use with rsync?04:33
RaulwynnYeah. lemme try again. How to I completely uninstall everything04:33
escobarTechMonger: me? I use --awesomeness04:33
tgm4883Raulwynn: have you tried 'steam --reset'04:33
TechMongerlol04:33
TechMongeri was asking everyone04:34
Raulwynnlemme try04:34
escobarTechMonger: I use -a most of the time04:34
escobar-av if it's not going to be a very long one04:34
escobar(as -v slows things)04:34
RaulwynnHow do I do that?04:34
escobarthrow in -P for things I want to resume04:34
tgm4883Raulwynn: do what?04:34
wafflejockRaulwynn, can just run that steam command at the terminal04:34
escobarand --delete can be nice, --exclude, etc.04:34
RaulwynnI did...04:34
Raulwynncommand not found04:34
wafflejockRaulwynn, something got botched in your steam install probably when it clipped off in the middle of the update04:35
tgm4883Raulwynn: uh, you get command not found when you try to run steam from the terminal?04:35
wafflejockRaulwynn, you can do, sudo apt-get install steam --reinstall04:35
AppAraathi, is anyone else having trouble with bash completion when they switched to 14.04 from 12.04?04:35
RaulwynnIt's running an update now I guess it worked lol04:35
RaulwynnFailed with same error04:35
RaulwynnOkay now to complete uninstall04:36
Raulwynnsudo apt-get purge steam-launcher && sudo apt-get autoremove04:36
RaulwynnRight?04:36
wafflejockRaulwynn, should just be steam not steam-launcher I believe04:37
RaulwynnOkay04:37
tgm4883that would just get rid of the steam-launcher. To remove steam, you actually would need to blow away the files in your home directory04:37
wafflejocktgm4883, purge should do that no?04:37
wafflejockpurge typically deletes config as well04:37
wafflejockor is that not true with steam data?04:38
RaulwynnHow can I check the file directory and tell?04:38
tgm4883wafflejock: god I hope not. Even with a purge it should never touch files in your home directory04:38
Raulwynnto make sure its gone04:38
wafflejockRaulwynn, in your home directory ~ in the command line you'll see a .steam folder04:39
wafflejockRaulwynn, so if you cd ~/.steam04:39
wafflejockyou can ls and see files in there04:39
wafflejockRaulwynn, if you want to use the regular file browser you can show hidden files believe it's Ctrl+H in the default file browser or Ctrl+.04:40
mgolischwow looks like gaming on linux works realy well04:40
mgolisch:)04:40
escobaryup04:40
wafflejockmgolisch, heh well I haven't had problems04:40
escobargames have lower hardware reqs for Unix systems04:40
wafflejockmgolisch, funny thing is too I have a GTX67004:40
wafflejockand Raulwynn has a GTX66004:40
RaulwynnSo Should I delete the .steam folder, everything is still in it.04:40
escobarcould always mv it04:41
wafflejockyeah moving is typically a better call just in case you need something in it for whatever reason... can just mv ~/.steam ~/.steam_bak04:41
tgm4883depends on if you want to save anything (game saves, etc)04:41
RaulwynnYeah I know my hardware can handle it. I used to play WoW on a friends ubuntu with an old pentium 4 and a gt9800 videocard04:41
wafflejockmgolisch, and compared with before Steam it's a lot better04:42
RaulwynnI just installed Ubuntu today I don't need anything04:42
wafflejockRaulwynn, can blow it away then with rm -rf ~/.steam04:42
RaulwynnOkay.04:43
wafflejockalways careful with that command deletes everything under a folder which can be pretty destructive if misdirected04:43
RaulwynnDone04:43
RaulwynnNow what is the correct way to install Steam?04:43
cfhowlettRaulwynn, software center04:43
RaulwynnCheck04:43
RaulwynnHold that thought04:43
RaulwynnNot found04:44
cfhowlettRaulwynn, you have to enable the multiverse repos.04:44
RaulwynnOh lawrdie.04:44
RaulwynnI'm so sorry for my insolence.04:44
RaulwynnHow might one do this?04:44
cfhowlettRaulwynn, errr .... "ignorance" :)04:44
wafflejockRaulwynn, don't worry just terminology it's just a checkbox04:44
cfhowletteasy.  wait 1 for me to mirror the process04:44
RaulwynnC) All of the above04:45
Raulwynn@waffle Oh04:45
mathi.04:45
cfhowlettRaulwynn, system > software updater > edit > software sources > Other software > independent04:46
cfhowlettmight enable the partners repos on the same page as well04:46
RaulwynnWait... I'm so lost04:47
RaulwynnGive me a second04:47
RaulwynnThey're all checked now04:48
RaulwynnUpdating cache04:48
xhearthi everyone,04:48
cfhowlettRaulwynn, right.  now search again04:48
wafflejockRaulwynn, okay yeah it'll get the list of new stuff it can install from those places you checked off04:48
wafflejocklike cfhowlett said just search again and should be good04:48
xhearti am using 12.10 but on certain website i get this >> n error occurred during a connection to vegapccoop.com. SSL received a weak ephemeral Diffie-Hellman key in Server Key Exchange handshake message. (Error code: ssl_error_weak_server_ephemeral_dh_key)04:49
RaulwynnNot found again04:49
cfhowlett!12.10 | xheart04:49
ubottuxheart: Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) was the 17th release of Ubuntu.  Support ended on May 16th, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/quantal04:49
cfhowlettRaulwynn, close software center and open a terminal04:49
cfhowlettRaulwynn, sudo apt-get update04:49
xheartthe 14.10 really messed up my old pc04:50
cfhowlettxheart, yeah, but 12.10 has NO security and NO updates.04:50
tgm4883and no support04:50
xanguaxheart: if you have an old/limited resources machine you should check xubuntu/lubuntu04:51
RaulwynnIt tells me... hold on04:51
xanguajust because your computer it's old doesn't mean you should use an old unsupported release04:51
RaulwynnThis is when I try to update04:52
xheartgetting lubuntu will erase my current files?04:52
Raulwynnhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11940253/04:52
RaulwynnThat was useless hold on04:52
cfhowlettxheart, if you format your /home - yes.04:52
Raulwynnhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11940256/04:53
cfhowlettRaulwynn, looks good.   now sudo apt-get install steam04:55
RaulwynnI love you guys. You know how much microsoft would have charged for this kind of help?04:56
cfhowlettRaulwynn, that's the beauty of opensource communities, amigo04:56
tgm4883Raulwynn: to be fair, there are similiar places to get help with windows04:56
RaulwynnI agree04:56
xheartcan i upgrade from 12.10 to 15.04 or 15.10?04:57
cfhowlett!eolupgrade | xheart, 15.10 isn't even out yet04:57
ubottuxheart, 15.10 isn't even out yet: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades04:57
RaulwynnBut even amidst all of my chaos, this was still easier and quicker.I spent weeks on microsoft and I've gotten further in one day doing it on here.04:57
tgm4883Raulwynn: not to beat a dead horse, but there are windows support IRC channels as well04:57
cfhowlettxheart, in other words, yes, 12.10 > 13.04 > 13.10 > 14.04 (RECOMMENDED)04:57
* AppAraat is re-installing Ubuntu minimal.04:58
tgm4883and then stay on 14.0504:58
AppAraatwish me luck04:58
tgm488314.0404:58
mgolischand i bet installing steam there would have been easier..04:58
RaulwynnI bet you would never guess what error I just got.04:58
cfhowlettxheart, OR you can avoid the incremental pain by clean installing 14.04 which is LongTermSupport04:58
cfhowlettRaulwynn, just say it04:58
mgolischprobably the same?04:58
RaulwynnFatal Error: Failed to load steamui.so04:59
RaulwynnI got a lot further though.04:59
tgm4883Raulwynn: yea, I figured you would get that error04:59
cfhowlettRaulwynn, wait, what?  from sudo apt-get install steam?04:59
RaulwynnYes.04:59
RaulwynnCould this still be some screwy setting from my videocard? How can I tell what is doing this?05:00
cfhowlettRaulwynn, huh.  no idea what that error is as it's from steam, not ubuntu.  BUT   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will solve many issues you are likely to face.  also: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras05:00
baash05Hey guys..05:00
baash05I'm attempting to install the wifi drivers for a macpro05:00
baash05I got no ethernet..05:01
baash05I'm wondering if anyone knows what DEB files I'll need.05:01
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cfhowlett!mac | baash0505:01
ubottubaash05: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages05:01
jamesd_the network is the computer... no network, just a paperweight ;-)05:02
RaulwynnOkay I ran those and still no luck with steam. Ill try a reboot again for the why nots of it05:02
coca_koalahello friends05:03
wafflejockRaulwynn, if you google on that error lots of posts about various missing dependencies being the possible culprit but not sure05:03
mgolischif it says it cant load a shared object you are probably missing some libraries it needs05:03
baash05ubottu: They don't have my mac on the list05:03
ubottubaash05: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:03
RaulwynnYeah I seen that.05:04
RaulwynnI've been going through them here and there05:04
cfhowlett!wifi | baash0505:04
ubottubaash05: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:04
xheartdo i need to create a DVD to upgrade from 12.10 lts to 14.04 or if a newer version?05:04
RaulwynnI have all of the steam dependencies so far.05:05
cfhowlett!steam | Raulwynn for more info05:05
ubottuRaulwynn for more info: Valve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.05:05
astronighthey everyone05:06
OerHeksxheart, that is the best advise, to have an iso ready. always handy when your system is wrecked after upgrade.05:07
cfhowlettxheart, of if your system supports USB boot, make a stick05:07
cfhowlettand 12.10 isn't / wasn't EVER an LTS release05:08
ObrienDave12.04 was05:08
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RaulwynnLets try something new for a minute.05:12
RaulwynnUhm. WineHQ05:12
RaulwynnWhere would I start?05:12
SuperLagWhen I do a ls on /home, I see the users' dirs there, and all but one of them show up blue. The other one is blue lettering, but highlighted green. What does that mean?05:12
cfhowlettwine?  for what?05:12
RaulwynnOffice 201305:13
SuperLagRaulwynn: why? you can do all that from a browser. Problem solved.05:13
cfhowlettRaulwynn, !libreoffice05:13
StrldentAnyone willing to help me05:13
AppAraat!ask05:14
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:14
StrldentI am trying to run a command on xinit but it is not working when i place the command in .xinitrc or .Xsession05:14
OerHeksStrldent, just ask, wait and see05:14
Raulwynn@cfhowlett It's for work. I need office05:14
RaulwynnTrust me I don't like it05:14
Strldenti need to run "compiz --replace" upon xinit05:14
cfhowlettRaulwynn, my understanding is that 2010 is much more wine friendly than 2013.  HOWEVER >>> ubuntu + virtualbox + MS windows + MS Office might be a better solution05:16
AppAraatStrldent: I think you also need to specify the DISPLAY property with that command.05:16
Strldenthow so05:17
Strldenti dont mean to be such a noob, i am just not familliar05:17
Strldenti am trying to learn, i have googled how to run a command on xinit on google and all i could find is it telling me to add it to xinitrc or xsession05:18
OerHeksStrldent, if you need to run it once, after login, ~/.profile should do the trick05:18
tgm4883Strldent: why do you need to run that upon xinit?05:18
Strldentbecause I have compiz window decorations and it doesnt work until i type "compiz --replace" in a terminal, after that compiz effects work05:18
coca_koalabazhang, is it a forever ban? lol05:19
AppAraatnot sure myself, but it needs to know on which display it has to take effect. Since you can have multiple DEs running concurrently at different displays, you need to specify which you want.05:19
coca_koalaalso i was gonna add something :305:19
Strldentso put DISPLAY= VGA-0 compiz  --replace?05:19
Strldentin arch linux i always just edit .xinitrc and add it at the bottom of the script and pkill -15 Xorg and it works after that05:20
AppAraatif you echo $DISPLAY it will tell you which display you're on.05:20
AppAraatso in my case it would be DISPLAY=:005:21
Strldentstrident@Strident:~$ echo $DISPLAY output is : :0.005:21
Strldentso im not familliar with this type of syntax, do i add it to xinitrc or xsession? and what do i put? DISPLAY-:0.0 compiz --replace?05:22
AppAraatso in your case it would be DISPLAY=:0.005:22
AppAraatdid you see what OerHeks said, Strldent ?05:23
StrldentI didnt catch that i just put it there, ill log out and see brb05:24
baash05ubottu: The wifi docs have very old instructions.05:25
ubottubaash05: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:25
baash05Ha ha05:25
xheartcan i use 14.04 from a usb stick?05:25
ObrienDaveyes05:26
baash05Hey.. I'm trying to get ubuntu working on a mac book pro05:26
baash05How can I get the wifi drivers working?05:27
astronightbaash05: I installed ubuntu on my macbook air two days ago, it works perfectly well.05:28
baash05Really.. I just tried and I got no wifi05:28
astronightI had the same problem05:28
OerHeksbaash05, go into restricted drivers, or sudo ubuntu-drivers list05:28
astronightgive me a minute05:29
OerHeksor use sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall  # this is the fastest way to get them ( all )05:29
baash05Would that require internet?05:30
OerHeksbaash05, Yes.05:30
baash05So... given I got no wifi05:30
Strldentyeah05:30
Strldenti put it into .profile05:30
OerHeksbaash05, no wired lan available?05:30
baash05Nope..05:30
Strldentand then when i re log it is just a black screen05:30
baash05no cables05:30
astronightsudo apt-get update / sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source05:31
AppAraathttp://apaste.info/WkM - This is my .bashrc - can anyone please comment on why my bash completion is broken on 14.04? When I do ll .tmux for example, it doesn't complete (there is .tmux.conf and .tmux/) also when I try to ll /etc/ it doesn't complete the files and dirs there.05:31
ObrienDaveso how are you chatting here?05:31
Strldentme?05:31
baash05different computer.. with wifi05:31
AppAraatStrldent: have you rebooted?05:31
astronightbaash05: use this one sudo apt-get update     then      sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source05:31
Strldentyes05:31
Strldentis there a way to just put it in a local file and call it a service05:32
OerHeksno internet, no updates, no drivers :-(... there is however an offline way to get them..05:32
OerHeks!offline05:32
ubottuIf you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. See also !APTonCD05:32
Strldentor does that only run before x inits05:32
astronightI hooked my macbook air with bluetooth connection, then I did the whole thing.05:32
baash05I'm looking for the offline way :)05:32
OerHeksastronight +1, baash05 do you have bt on both machines?05:32
baash05I suppose the mac has bt.05:33
astronightok then05:33
baash05this box does not.05:33
Strldentdo i have to put "exec compiz --replace" in xinitrc or just the compiz --replace, thats how it worked in arch05:33
astronightturn on the hotspot on your phone05:33
astronightpair your computer with your phone via bluetooth05:34
astronightyou should be able to connect now05:34
AppAraatyeah try "exec DISPLAY-:0.0 compiz --replace" or just "compiz --replace" in one of those files.05:34
AppAraatStrldent: ^05:34
baash05Is there an offline way?05:34
Strldent- OR =05:34
astronightI've done it with bluetooth connectivity05:35
Strldentis it a hyphen or equals05:35
legendIs rar file recovery possible in ubuntu?05:36
Strldentim sorry for being such a noob guys, your help is greatly appreciated. i know one of you wants to throw something at me by now lol05:36
AppAraatStrldent: DISPLAY=:0.005:36
AppAraatno worries, linux can only be learned by repeated failure.05:36
Strldenti know05:37
Strldenti built an LFS, took me 4 months to get it right lmfao05:37
ObrienDave*looks for a LARGE book* ;P05:37
cfhowlettObrienDave, "harry potter" volumes 1 - 805:37
Strldentso under xinitrc, put the line "exec DISPLAY=:0.0 compiz --replace" right after . /etc/X11/Xsession then right??05:38
ObrienDave*digs through the room rubble* ;P05:38
Strldentlet me hastebin this for you05:38
legendI have a rar file of size 6 GB. But i can see only 2 GB of contents inside. Is it possible to extract raw image ?05:38
Strldenthttp://hastebin.com/edopacojus.bash like this?05:38
Strldentor do it in Xsession. I am so confused in the ubuntu world. Arch linux is so simple lol05:39
ObrienDaveonly because you're used to it ;P05:40
OerHekslegend, governments are not allowed to use .rar, as it can easily contain a payload of stuff. but to answer you:05:41
OerHeksExtracting with unrar and the keep broken extracted files option sometimes works, but it depends on the archive contents. >> unrar x -kb example.rar05:41
Strldenthttp://hastebin.com/edopacojus.bash should this work?05:43
Strldentshould i be putting this in xsession or xinitrc05:43
Strldenti see here in xinitrc the only line says it calls /etc/X11/Xsession05:44
Harleyhello, everyone05:44
AppAraatStrldent: why not just try it?05:45
Strldentwill do. sorry guys05:45
Strldent<--- noooooooooob05:46
AppAraathi Harley05:46
HarleyHi, are you from China ?05:46
AppAraatno05:47
Harleywhere?05:47
AppAraatChina is located in Asia.05:47
FediddyI need some freaking help.... Im running a Ubunt VPS 14.04. I installed Deluge ,btsync, webmin, and I think thats it. I've tried to upgrade libtorrent but it hasn't worked.. I had a lot of errors. I followed some directions I read on forums which have lead to even more APT-GET erros....  WHAT I DID VERY WRONG!!!! I overwrote the sources.list file.. After adding custom PPA;s....   When I do05:48
Fediddy"apt-get dist-upgrade" I get, http://pastebin.com/YtrZFiaB .  When I do "apt-get upgrade" I get http://pastebin.com/adrnfHt405:48
cfhowlettHarley, all ubuntu users are on earth.  let's move on.05:48
FediddyUbuntu05:48
Donald_ET3Does anyone here know how to make Ubuntu work with a Wacom Bamboo?05:49
FediddyFuck,, I hope that made some sense.. I drank 2 much !05:49
AppAraatFediddy: can you also post your /etc/apt/sources.list file and everything in /etc/apt/sources.d/ ?05:49
Fediddyyes05:49
cfhowlettFediddy, stop the profanity now.05:49
Fediddyhold on05:49
Fediddycf, Its stopped05:49
Fediddysorrt05:49
Fediddysorry05:50
ra21viwow.. nice joke Fediddy05:50
HarleyI'm new here, just a bit curious.05:50
FediddyApparaat, Is there an easy command I can run in putty to provide those texts?05:50
cfhowlett!manual | Harley05:51
ubottuHarley: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/05:51
FediddyI will use pastebin to not spam the channel05:51
Fediddyra21. what joke?05:51
Fediddyra. nevermind05:51
ra21viFediddy:)05:51
AppAraatyou can do alias apaste='curl -F '\''paste=<-'\'' http://apaste.info/store'05:52
AppAraatthen you can cat sometextfile | apaste05:52
Fediddyhold on... let me install winscp05:52
Strldentokay05:52
Strldentnone of that worked05:52
FediddyThank you for help... AppAraat!05:53
AppAraatnp05:53
AppAraatStrldent: then I'm not sure what will help. I'm pretty unfamiliar in regards to compiz.05:53
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OerHeksFediddy, a vps, those are heavily tweaked, get help from your vendor, to get a clean image back/ or sourceslist ... besides, webmin is depreciated ( might be a cause of your issue)05:54
OerHeks!webmin05:54
ubottuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.05:54
Strldentwell, thank you for your time, i appreciate the effort to help greatly05:55
AppAraatit could be your gfx card problems. 90% of problems here are AFAIK.05:56
FediddyAppAraat, sources.list http://pastebin.com/XbHSQvYK ,05:56
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Strldentfacepalm05:58
Strldentgsettings set org.mate.session.required-components windowmanager compiz05:58
Strldentdid the trick05:58
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Fediddythe .d folder.... http://pastebin.com/QVRpqjic   http://pastebin.com/ztVeTaF3  http://pastebin.com/ewq5jTYw05:59
FediddyAppAraat, the .d folder links have the file names06:00
AppAraatthat doesn't quite look like stock Ubuntu install06:00
baash05Hey.06:00
OerHeksFediddy, so you are on trusty 14.04, and have extra precise sources, please don't mix versions.06:01
Fediddythe sources.list file I accidentally delete with an ECHO Deb command I followed on a repair guide... I then realised what I did (Overwrite the Sources.List file with that single REPO....06:01
baash05I tried to connect my mac-book-pro U_mate15 with a phone via bluetooth.. but I got Bluez daemon is not running06:01
FediddyI went on the Ubuntu sources.list generator and created my own... lol06:02
cfhowletthttp://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php   Fediddy06:02
baash05Any thoughts on how to connect to my phone06:02
OerHeksFediddy, wild guess: you were on precise, and wanted trusty .. ?06:02
wileeebaash05, Full words and release info please.06:02
FediddyAppAraat,, I used cfhowlett recommeneded URL! to generate this new sources.list06:02
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cfhowlettFediddy, then you should not be seeing trusty AND precise  in your sources.list06:03
FediddyOerHeks, I honestly have no idea what I did!!!06:03
baash05Sorry.. I just download Ubutnu_mate 15.406:03
baash05and installed it on a macbook pro(12)06:04
FediddyI'm running 14.0406:04
FediddyI think06:04
wileeebaash05, Cool, thanks 15.10 is not released yet is all, no biggie.06:04
baash05I just grabbed the latest.06:04
wileeeyou are under support06:04
dhanesh9515.04 has limited time support06:04
baash05cool.. I'm trying to get wifi working and it was suggested I connect to the net via my phone's bluetooth06:05
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dhanesh95@baash05.. I suggest you use 14.0406:06
baash0514.04 mate?06:06
baash05Did't know there was one.06:06
dhanesh95@baash05.. You can install mate later06:06
dhanesh95@baash05.. Just replace unity with mate06:07
dhanesh95@baash05.. You can Google it..06:07
baash05Yeah.. Why wouldn't 15 have bluetooth?06:07
OerHeksbaash05, i think you have a wifi/bt combo chip, so you will need the driver first.06:08
baash05DerHeks:  How do I get the drivers?06:09
dhanesh95@baash05.. Where did you get the distro?06:09
OerHeks!mac | maybe it is in these mactel pages06:09
ubottumaybe it is in these mactel pages: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages06:09
AppAraatquestion: How am I supposed to approach troubleshooting my webcam? It is a ZC0305 and it is listed as working here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams06:09
baash05I got 15.. off of the mate site.06:09
AppAraatwhen I open skype video call it fills the webcam video area with flashing blue color.06:09
easyOnMehow do I find where netbeans is installed on my ubuntu and where can I find its equivalent .exe file06:10
dhanesh95@baash05.. Go with ubottu..06:10
baash05What?06:10
dhanesh95He mentioned a link to the community page.. Check it out..06:10
wileeeAppAraat, look at the release and skyoe release in your link.06:10
AppAraateasyOnMe: if you have Unity desktop environment, just go to the lens (the search function) and type in netbeans. Alternatively fire up a terminal emulator (Ctrl+Alt+t) and type "which netbeans" without the quotes.06:11
easyOnMeAppAraat: thanks06:11
AppAraatwileee: yeah I'm running 14.04 x86 with latest skype. Doesn't it mean that it should work?06:11
easyOnMewhich netbeans did not work06:12
baash05Yeah.. I keep getting pointed to that page.06:12
wileeeAppAraat, You have cheese installed to see if cam works?06:12
baash05but my mac isn't listed.06:12
easyOnMeAppAraat: which netbeans did not work06:12
AppAraatwileee: I was about to install vlc to test webcam. I'll check out cheese.06:12
baash05Also when I pick an earlier model I get "This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates."06:13
FediddyAppAraat, any help?06:13
AppAraateasyOnMe: in that case, type "aptitude search netbeans" if there's an i instead of p in the output, then you have it installed.06:13
cfhowlettbaash05, use the page that most closely matches your hardware.06:14
easyOnMeAppAraat: ok thanks06:14
AppAraatFediddy: it looks like a non-stock Ubuntu with (as others have said) mixed repos.06:14
baash05I did..06:14
AppAraatFediddy: so best option is to either get the repos straight or re-install.06:14
OerHeksFediddy, a vps, those are heavily tweaked, get help from your vendor, to get a clean image back/ or sourceslist ...06:15
FediddyAppAraat, I found a .save file of the sources.list from the 5th of this month... I copied the content over to sources.list and that error has disappeared... when I run apt-get update and the upgrade everthing works and the upgrade comes back with 0,0,006:15
baash05Hey.. So the closest hardware there is 2012..06:15
cfhowlettbaash05, go for it with that one then06:15
Fediddywhen i run, sudo apt-get install subversion build-essential automake libtool libcppunit-dev libcurl3-dev06:16
Fediddy,,, i get The following packages have unmet dependencies:06:16
Fediddy build-essential : Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or06:16
Fediddy                            libc-dev06:16
Fediddy                   Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.4.3) but it is not going to be installed06:16
Fediddy libcurl4-openssl-dev : Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or06:16
Fediddy                                 libc-dev06:16
baash05Woud that be mate?06:16
Fediddyhello06:17
Fediddysorry06:18
mai_hello06:18
Fediddyhttp://pastebin.com/qkjfKrJk06:18
linuxuz3rhi ho Fediddy mai_06:19
Fediddylinuxuz3r, Its off to work we go!06:20
FediddyDisney :)06:20
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easyOnMeAppAraat: I got this path Home/Documents/Netbeans/netbeans-8.0.2-php.linux.sh06:27
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AppAraateasyOnMe: how did you get that file? How did you install Netbeans?06:28
easyOnMeAppAraat: I used int filezilla and it gives me this error saying associated program not found even though that is what nautilus says06:28
easyOnMeI forget I did it ages ago06:28
easyOnMeAppAraat: but there is where the folder Netbeans is located together with its .sh file06:30
AppAraatok well, what's the output to "aptitude search netbeans" (paste the output on something like pastebin)06:30
easyOnMeAppAraat: hang on I need to install aptitude06:32
easyOnMeAppAraat: what is aptitude for06:32
AppAraatapt-get install aptitude06:32
AppAraat(with sudo before it btw)06:32
easyOnMeAppAraat: I just did06:32
ObrienDaveaptitude is another type of apt-get06:34
easyOnMeAppAraat: there is a command to pastebin right from the terminal06:35
AppAraateasyOnMe: yes, add this to your .bashrc: alias apaste='curl -F '\''paste=<-'\'' http://apaste.info/store'06:35
AppAraatand then do "aptitude search netbeans | apaste"06:36
easyOnMeAppAraat: this command: .bashrc: alias apaste='curl -F '\''paste=<-'\'' http://apaste.info/store'06:37
easyOnMedo you want me to put it in the terminal06:37
AppAraateasyOnMe: no, open the .bashrc file with a text editor and paste that line "alias apaste='curl -F '\''paste=<-'\'' http://apaste.info/store'" (without the doublequotes) in there somewhere (at the end preferably)06:38
AppAraatthen simply start a new terminal session06:38
legendAfter installing windows 7, if i install ubuntu, i easily get dual boot options. But if i install ubuntu first and then windows 7, i straightaway boot into windows 7. Is this abnormal behaviour?06:39
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legendI tried it with Windows 8 but problem still persists.06:39
ObrienDavelegend, no that's normal06:39
easyOnMeAppAraat: noted with thanks06:39
EriC^^legend: yeah06:39
ObrienDavelegend, ALWAYS install windows first06:39
EriC^^legend: when you install windows it installs its bootloader and it doesn't pick up ubuntu06:40
ObrienDavethere is a way to fix it but it's MUCH easier to install win first06:40
easyOnMeAppAraat: I just opened the .bashrc file where shall the paste the command you gave06:41
legendIs there some limitation in Windows bootloader due to which it doesn't pick linux OS?06:41
easyOnMeit is ok to paste it at the very bottom of the file06:41
easyOnMeAppAraat: it is ok to paste it at the very bottom of the file06:41
AppAraatye06:41
easyOnMeAppAraat: ok save and done06:41
easyOnMerestarting my terminal06:41
ObrienDavelegend, yes there is06:41
AppAraateasyOnMe: all right, now test it by doing "echo 'hello world' | apaste"06:42
easyOnMeAppAraat: it gave this back it is ok to paste it at the very bottom of the file06:42
easyOnMeAppAraat: it gave this back: http://apaste.info/moz06:43
legendI see. I hope windows community patch this limitation in upcoming windows 10.06:43
xangualol06:43
ObrienDavelegend, that is NOT likely to happen.06:43
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AppAraateasyOnMe: that means it succeeded. Now use that command to paste the output of "aptitude search netbeans"06:43
easyOnMehttp://apaste.info/uGI06:44
ObrienDavelegend, there is NO such thing as the "windows community"06:44
tootHello. Sorry,  whether the russian-speaking community?06:44
ObrienDave!ru | toot06:44
ubottutoot: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.06:44
AppAraateasyOnMe: right. So this means you don't have netbeans installed. You probably downloaded the executable somewhere from the Internet while that should have been the last resort. Always use the repositories of your distro. A repo is like an app store (also predates the app store by like 20 years or so).06:45
toot!ru06:45
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.06:45
AppAraateasyOnMe: if you want to install netbeans, simply do "sudo aptitude install netbeans"06:45
easyOnMeAppAraat: ok but I still manage to run netbeans on my ubuntu laptop06:46
easyOnMecan I just use the path I gave you earlier to open any file using netbeans06:46
AppAraateasyOnMe: that means you installed it from god-knows-where and are stuck with a program which is not fully-integrated with your system. The path which you found was probably an installer script. You need to find the actual binary executable file.06:47
AppAraatperhaps paste that .sh file to pastebin so we can at least see where it has been installed?06:48
easyOnMeAppAraat: which is where I got some netbeans folder down here shown by nautilus06:49
AppAraatwileee: can the same be done with vlc, or is cheese best suited for this application of webcam troubleshooting?06:50
easyOnMeAppAraat: which is where/ I got some netbeans folder down here shown by nautilus06:50
easyOnMeAppAraat: which is where? I got some netbeans folder down here shown by nautilus06:50
AppAraatHome/Documents/Netbeans/netbeans-8.0.2-php.linux.sh ?06:51
AppAraatis there also a binary executable there?06:51
wileeeAppAraat, I have not used vlc with a cam.06:51
AppAraatall right, I'll install cheese in that case.06:52
akiva-thinkpadubuntu wiki won't let me log in with my ubuntu one account.06:53
easyOnMeAppAraat: how do I know that a file is binary or not06:53
akiva-thinkpadnvm06:54
ObrienDaveeasyOnMe, open with notepad. if you can read it, it's NOT binary ;P06:55
easyOnMeObrienDave: noted with thanks06:55
ObrienDaveand binary files are usually marked executable ;P06:55
easyOnMeObrienDave: do they end with a .sh extension06:56
ObrienDave.sh means shell. usually a text script type file06:56
baash05Tried the 14.04 version of mate.06:56
easyOnMeObrienDave: ok I got three netbeans showing up on nautilus after I did a search06:57
ObrienDavei know nothing about netbeans. java, yes?06:58
wafflejockyeah06:58
wafflejockit's a java ide06:58
easyOnMeone is a folder with .netbeans the other is just named netbens and the last one is Netbeans where the netbeans-8.0.20php-linux.sh is located06:58
easyOnMeyes it is a java based IDE06:58
wafflejockeasyOnMe, yeah so you probably have a .netbeans folder in your home folder with your user config for that program06:58
baash05I  tried the 14.04 and nothing about it seems to support wifi  or bluetooth :(06:58
wafflejockeasyOnMe, the one without an extension is probably the executable directly, the .sh file is typically the script you'd run to launch the binary with some config beforehand06:59
easyOnMewafflejock: yeah I also a config folder in one of those netbeans folder I just mentioned earlier06:59
ObrienDavebaash05, strange, i'm running 14.04 and both work just fine06:59
easyOnMewafflejock: so I go to the Home .netbeans folder and look for the config folder inside is that what you  mean07:00
baash05Sorry.. I meant I installed it on a macbookpro07:00
baash05I wanted to move away from fedora because it had so much in it07:01
easyOnMewafflejock: Ok I am inside Home/.netbeans/config;07:01
baash05Perhaps next weekend. :(07:01
easyOnMewafflejock: so what do I do now07:01
ObrienDavebaash05, i'm not a mac person07:01
baash05Nore am I :)07:01
baash05the hardware was nice.07:01
baash05but the os sucks07:02
wafflejockeasyOnMe, you should be able to just launch the .sh file where that is don't worry about the .config folder07:02
ObrienDave*face palms* then WHY??? :)07:02
wafflejockeasyOnMe, if launching from the config file works then I can point you at how to setup a .desktop text file in /usr/share/applications to make a launcher for the .sh file if not we can fix the permissions on the .sh file so we can launch it07:02
wafflejocksorry not config file the .sh file07:03
baash05ObrienDave: do you mean why did I get a mac?  The hardware is awesome.. They feel so solid.07:03
wafflejockyou got me all confused :P07:03
ObrienDavebaash05, all i care about is that it works ;P07:03
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baash05Ha.. Yeah.. fedora22 works, but the WM is gnome3 and I'm not really in love with it.07:04
ObrienDaveim sure fedora has a xfce spin07:04
baash05Oh?07:05
AppAraatObrienDave: are spins managed by community?07:05
ObrienDavei run Xubuntu because i HATE Unity ;P07:05
ObrienDaveAppAraat, yes, more of a specialty community07:06
easyOnMeObrienDave: I am just wondering I am inside the Documents folder and when I type cd Netbeans it says no such file or directory when in fact it is there07:07
ObrienDavecheck the spelling. cd is case sensitive07:07
easyOnMeAppAraat: http://apaste.info/HmQ07:09
easyOnMeI got this07:09
easyOnMewhat is the extension for executable files in linux07:14
ObrienDavethere really is no .exe equivalent. they're marked executable in permissions07:15
baizoneasyOnMe: this isnt windows, you have to look if a file has +x07:15
Gregor3000is there any alternative to Adobe Pro? i need to create form form MS Word. LO opens it ok but doesn't know how to save it propperly.07:18
Gregor3000either in .odt, .docx or PDF. the say it's a low priority bug.07:19
wafflejockeasyOnMe, you can use ls -al and you'll see the permissions for the files and a d if it's a directory07:20
wafflejockeasyOnMe, if it's executable already you'll see a x in the permissions before the file07:21
wafflejockeasyOnMe, from the looks of what you listed you just need to cd NetBeans, from there07:22
wafflejockhard to tell without the extra file info though07:22
easyOnMewafflejock: yup but the file inside is actually the installer07:23
easyOnMeit is executable but it is for installation07:23
easyOnMeI am looking for the one that runs netbeans on ubuntu07:23
wafflejockeasyOnMe, okay that's not what we want you already installed right?07:23
wafflejockyou said earlier you saw netbeans-8.0.20php-linux.sh is that the installer or something else?07:23
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easyOnMewafflejock: yeah that was the installer07:24
easyOnMeI tried running it and it was the installation file07:24
EmptySpaceneed to hold shift down while booting 14.04 to enter menu, correct?07:25
EmptySpacefrom liveusb?07:25
ObrienDavenot normally, that's only if you don't get the GRUB menu07:26
EmptySpaceok07:26
wafflejockeasyOnMe, one min07:26
easyOnMewafflejock: ok no problem07:28
wafflejockeasyOnMe, okay so you ran the netbeans installer already and stepped through the wizard?07:29
easyOnMewafflejock: no I am not installing it again man07:29
wafflejockeasyOnMe, you should have a folder called netbeans-version in your /home/username folder07:29
easyOnMeok07:29
easyOnMeyes I have07:29
wafflejockeasyOnMe, I'm not telling you install it again I'm verifying you did install it actually just to be clear07:29
wafflejockeasyOnMe, okay so in a terminal just go to cd ~07:30
wafflejockthen ls -al07:30
wafflejockand show the output there07:30
wafflejocker if you see a netbeans folder just cd into there07:30
easyOnMewafflejock: I got this .cache/netbeans07:31
easyOnMeI also got this Home/.netbeans07:31
easyOnMeso which one should I got07:31
easyOnMego07:31
wafflejockeasyOnMe, nothing in the root of your user folder07:31
easyOnMenothing07:31
wafflejockI have the installer up here for netbeans PHP version07:31
wafflejockit says it would install to /home/shaun/netbeans-8.0.207:31
wafflejockI'm shaun :)07:31
easyOnMenice meeting you shaun07:32
easyOnMebut I do not know where I installed mine man07:32
wafflejockI can try with the java one but I imagine it should have the same07:32
easyOnMebut I can guarantee you it is working on my laptop07:32
wafflejockjust figured I might actually use the other one07:32
easyOnMewafflejock: ok what is inside your netbeans-8.0.2-php-linux in your root folder07:34
wafflejockeasyOnMe, eh I decided to just grab the java one instead to see if it was different but all the same /home/shaun/Downloads/netbeans-8.0.2-javase-linux.sh07:35
wafflejockoops07:35
easyOnMewafflejock: the one you got is java07:35
baizoneclipse/intellij > netbeans07:35
easyOnMethat is the reason I never use aptitude07:35
easyOnMeI just use the zip file07:35
wafflejockyeah I like intellij at this point used eclipse for a while07:36
wafflejocknetbeans never grew on me07:36
wafflejockone min though07:36
wafflejockinstalling cause why not give it another go07:36
wafflejocklooks like it's all going in that folder though not sure what to tell ya if you don't have it07:36
wafflejockI liked SublimeText as well but really needed something with a proper debugger for server side stuff07:37
ObrienDavethis convo keeps getting weirder. TV time *waves*07:38
wafflejockokay it installed07:38
wafflejockif I type netbeans I see it and can launch it... so is that not the case for you?07:38
wafflejockI mean just using the dash07:38
AppAraatwileee: I managed to get the webcam working (no audio yet) - http://apaste.info/XuX - but webcam still doesn't work on skype :(07:39
AppAraatI figured out what caused the "blue flashing" though. It only happened if the remote caller enabled their camera.07:40
wafflejockeasyOnMe, the launcher says it's running   /bin/sh "/home/shaun/netbeans-8.0.2/bin/netbeans"07:40
AppAraatwithout remote caller camera, with only local cam turned on... the cam simply outputted black.07:40
easyOnMewafflejock: ok noted with thanks07:40
easyOnMelet me check again07:41
AppAraatI feel like this is going to turn into a huge PITA. I'm saddened to say that sometimes it's best to just install Windows :(07:41
wafflejockeasyOnMe, yeah I'm using Gnome so maybe the dash is just not updating immediately or something not sure07:41
wafflejockyeah I'd say netbeans has definitely improved would say a little cleaner than intellij visually but less so than sublime text seems a lot lighter than it used to be but might just be from hardware advances since I last used it07:44
wafflejockAppAraat, have had good luck with using guvcview myself for testing out and tweaking settings on my webcam might be worth a go07:51
wafflejockanyhow gotta get some sleep07:52
AppAraatthanks, will check it out.07:52
AppAraatgn :)07:52
easyOnMeAppAraat: just one more time07:52
easyOnMeI got my netbeans on my launcher07:52
easyOnMenow there is usually a way to find its file from the share folder where it configures which programs to include in the launcher right07:53
easyOnMeso where are all these files located07:53
easyOnMemaybe we can get an idea from there which netbeans executable file is being used to launch netbeans07:54
kampiyo##ubuntu07:54
kampiyohow to buy bitcoins07:54
AppAraateasyOnMe: I have no clue, packages installed outside of the repo could be anywhere. You can use the search function on the root of the filesystem07:54
AppAraat!offtopic kampiyo07:54
AppAraatkampiyo: #bitcoin07:55
easyOnMeAppAraat: how do you know the command on the terminal07:55
AppAraateasyOnMe: sudo find / -iname "*netbean*"07:56
OerHekswhich netbeans, locate netbeans07:56
mir3k#ubuntu-pl08:08
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SnowieHi all. I have what looks like from the output a kernel config problem. I'm confused because i can still install via CLI. This is the output of $ sudo apt-get upgrade. I did follow a post some time ago to remove old kernal versions to free space on /boot and I'm assuming i nuffed it :(08:20
SkyriderIf I were to be installing ubuntu server, which version should I pick?08:21
SkyriderUbuntu 14.04 or 15.0408:21
Snowielatest lts08:21
SkyriderI see the latest is 14.04.208:22
Snowie!ubotu lts08:22
SkyriderOddly enough, only 14.04 is available to me.08:22
Skyridermeh08:22
Snowielol, i never get that right08:22
Snowieit's the Long Term Support release08:22
SkyriderThat, I know :)08:22
SkyriderBut was more curious if 15.04 was more stable over 14.04.08:23
bekksSkyrider: No.08:23
Skyriderregardless not being lts.08:23
Snowiethat's not the plan i understand08:23
Snowielts is the production recommended version08:23
bekksSkyrider: For a server, just use LTS.08:23
HypothesisFroghi. There's a massive, 37gig file in ~/ that has a three line filename. What on earth could it be?08:24
wileeean alien portal?08:25
HypothesisFroglol08:25
Skyriderbbl08:25
HypothesisFrogit's called tmpodbUant8Y0N81fFBnaffTyBUwyJf9VeZTCkBgiy9DNIXlZrTEKvUZ8sRt_oGUuveMJ1HAbBZcC_ip1loRgY9PaA6qcd2rXhC6fSif6.kBo3UDFlPwSPJLD8Ta9fVDO4dL9-1_tPDcv2O1zml7iMmhju\ z9chywpHF_1PNc\ ZkXTqTK8nzou58\ ZPG40xrPBbe6U08dsP77BOZomuCuHONW_a9ghFBXknqsl1Y7BbuWpGO8_xrInaFkxvjzN08:25
HypothesisFrogwot the sock is that?08:25
MatsyCan you do a head -100 tmpodbUant8Y0N81fFBnaffTyBUwyJf9VeZTCkBgiy9DNIXlZrTEKvUZ8sRt_oGUuveMJ1HAbBZcC_ip1loRgY9PaA6qcd2rXhC6fSif6.kBo3UDFlPwSPJLD8Ta9fVDO4dL9-1_tPDcv2O1zml7iMmhju\ z9chywpHF_1PNc\  ZkXTqTK8nzou58\ ZPG40xrPBbe6U08dsP77BOZomuCuHONW_a9ghFBXknqsl1Y7BbuWpGO8_xrInaFkxvjzN08:25
HypothesisFroghead ?08:26
MatsyIt extracts the first 100 bytes out of the file08:26
MatsyIf it is a common file, it will have a magic08:26
Matsyhead -c 100*08:26
HypothesisFroghead -c 100 tmpodbUant8Y0N81fFBnaffTyBUwyJf9VeZTCkBgiy9DNIXlZrTEKvUZ8sRt_oGUuveMJ1HAbBZcC_ip1loRgY9PaA6qcd2rXhC6fSif6.kBo3UDFlPwSPJLD8Ta9fVDO4dL9-1_tPDcv2O1zml7iMmhju\ z9chywpHF_1PNc\ ZkXTqTK8nzou58\ ZPG40xrPBbe6U08dsP77BOZomuCuHONW_a9ghFBXknqsl1Y7BbuWpGO8_xrInaFkxvjzN08:26
MatsyYes08:26
HypothesisFrogoutput: nothing08:26
MatsyDa fuck?08:27
HypothesisFrogcan you say fuck in here?08:27
MatsyAnother thing we can try08:28
wileeeNO08:28
Matsyod -t x1 -N 100 tmpodbUant8Y0N81fFBnaffTyBUwyJf9VeZTCkBgiy9DNIXlZrTEKvUZ8sRt_oGUuveMJ1HAbBZcC_ip1loRgY9PaA6qcd2rXhC6fSif6.kBo3UDFlPwSPJLD8Ta9fVDO4dL9-1_tPDcv2O1zml7iMmhju\ z9chywpHF_1PNc\  ZkXTqTK8nzou58\ ZPG40xrPBbe6U08dsP77BOZomuCuHONW_a9ghFBXknqsl1Y7BbuWpGO8_xrInaFkxvjzN08:28
MatsyWill print it in hexadecimal.08:29
HypothesisFrogMatsy lots of 0s08:29
MatsyFigured08:29
MatsyWho's the owner of the file?08:29
HypothesisFrogme08:29
HypothesisFrogit seemed to appear after I used bleachbit08:29
MatsyAlways a bad idea08:31
HypothesisFrogcould be related to this http://askubuntu.com/questions/427647/strange-folder-in-my-home-folder-after-a-failed-run-of-bleachbit08:31
Matsylol08:31
Snowiehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11940799/08:31
Snowiei think that worked in pastebinit08:31
Snowieshort version08:31
kam1kde or gnome08:32
kam1go!08:32
MatsyHypothesisFrog: I'd just delete it08:32
MatsyCan't be something important08:32
MatsyIf it starts with 0 bytes08:32
HypothesisFrogMatsy will do08:32
HypothesisFroganother thing08:32
Snowiedpkg: error processing package linux-generic-lts-utopic (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured08:32
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SnowieNo apport report written because the error message indicates its a followup error from a previous failure.08:32
HypothesisFrogpossible OT, but how do I post install windows 7?08:32
SnowieNo apport report written because the error message indicates its a followup error from a previous failure.08:32
SnowieNo apport report written because MaxReports is reached already08:32
Snowieappologies08:32
SnowieErrors were encountered while processing: linux-image-3.16.0-44-generic linux-image-extra-3.16.0-44-generic linux-image-generic-lts-utopic linux-generic-lts-utopic08:33
Snowiemore than expected08:33
kam1i miss ubuntu08:33
MatsyHypothesisFrog: You mean after you installed Ubuntu?08:33
HypothesisFrogMatsy yep yep08:33
kam1What happened with HypthesisFrog's ubuntu build?08:33
MatsyYou kinda did the wrong way around :p08:33
kam1i miss ubuntu so much08:33
MatsySince, whenever you install Windows 7 now, grub will be affected08:34
kam1i am prob gonna go back soon08:34
kam1loool yeah happened to me before^08:34
HypothesisFrogMatsy can't I reinstall grub? supergrubdisk used to do that automatically08:34
MatsyHypothesisFrog: So, how this works. Run gparted. Create your windows partition.08:34
MatsyInstall Windows 708:34
MatsyUse your live USB to install grub again08:34
MatsyAnd it will fix it08:34
awtempleranyone install Shiny-server on Ubuntu??08:34
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HypothesisFrogMatsy what do I install on the usb?08:34
Guest45730hi08:35
MatsyHypothesisFrog: How did you install Ubuntu?08:35
bekksawtempler: What's "shiny-server"?08:35
wileeeSnowie, That release became end of life last thursday.08:35
kam1can someone help me with c08:35
Matsybekks: It's a server frontend for r-studio08:35
MatsyAllows you to create interactive r-documents08:35
MatsyMostly for statistics08:35
kam1in terms of dev. i used to use ubuntu for beginning practice c dev08:35
HypothesisFrogMatsy 14.04 ubuntustudio install cd08:35
kam1but now i have a win build with code blocks or someshit08:35
Matsy.. CD?08:35
HypothesisFrogMatsy affirmative08:36
awtemplerShiny-server serves apps written in R/Shiny !!08:36
ricardyou may like my cpu is limited to 1333mhz ram, the mothyerboard only recognize 1400MHz RAM08:36
HypothesisFrogdvd/cd, whatever. Silvery round thing with a hole in it.08:36
MatsyHypothesisFrog: Follow this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/83771/recovering-grub-after-installing-windows-708:36
Matsyawtempler: So yeah, I installed it. I'm currently running a large instance of shiny apps using it08:36
MatsyWhat's your question?08:36
kam1I have a questions08:37
kam1someone respond to me08:37
kam1with good ubuntu experience08:37
HypothesisFrogMatsy thanks.08:37
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kam1Matsy!!08:37
Matsykam1: Just ask your question08:37
ricardyou may like my cpu is limited to 1333mhz ram, the mothyerboard only recognize 1400MHz RAM08:37
bekkskam1: First ask a Ubuntu support question, not a c support question :)08:37
awtemplerMatsy: I am having loads of issues just setting it up...as i need to build it from source!!08:37
kam1firstly without sounding like a nuub08:37
kam1how on earth are you guys managing to write my name, and then posting your message after08:38
Matsyawtempler: Why?08:38
kam1like that^08:38
Matsyawtempler: Ubuntu has packages for shiny08:38
MatsyOr well, it has gdebi08:38
HypothesisFrogMatsy is it safe to just re partition the hard drive with gparted? Any options I should click to avoid losing data?08:38
bekksHypothesisFrog: For avoiding data loss, create a backup.08:38
MatsyHypothesisFrog: Always backup your data before doing something like this08:38
ricardyou may like my cpu is limited to 1333mhz ram, the mothyerboard only recognize 1400MHz RAM08:39
MatsyMatter of fact08:39
MatsyAlways just backup your data08:39
HypothesisFrogMatsy but does the process automatically erase the partitions?08:39
awtemplerMatsy: There are only binaries for 64-bit......I have 32 bit Ubuntu installed....so the only option is to build Shiny-Server from source08:39
ricardplease tell me08:39
MatsyHypothesisFrog: No08:39
MatsyHypothesisFrog: It will shrink the ubuntu partition, and leave you with free space08:39
HypothesisFrogMatsy so ok. I will create a back up, as you suggest. thanks.08:39
MatsyHypothesisFrog: You can partition it, or not.08:39
kam1compiling on c was eazy, gcc, and then ran it using the terminal, how on earth can i do that but on windows, longtime gnu user, not really affiliated with win lol hard to believe08:39
MatsyWindows will either see a FAT32 partition, or free space. Both are great.08:39
kam1fat32 in most cases^08:40
Matsyawtempler: You have a 32 bit os?08:40
wileeericard, What is your end goal here; support?08:40
Matsyawtempler: That's tough08:40
awtemplerMatsy: That it is!08:40
ricardwileee, yes08:41
Matsyawtempler: Are you following this? https://github.com/rstudio/shiny-server/wiki/Building-Shiny-Server-from-Source08:41
wileee!details | ricard than.....08:42
ubotturicard than.....: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)08:42
MatsyDoesn't look too complicated08:42
awtemplerMatsy: yes I am absolutely....to the letter......still have build issues....build breaks after a few mins of compiling and comes back with errors08:42
MatsyCan you post the build log?08:43
Matsy(Paste.ubuntu.com will make the people here happy)08:43
kam1what is this, customer service?08:43
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bekkskam1: This is free volunteer support.08:43
ricardif I want to know if my being limited to 1333mhz cpu, motherboard only makes me stop up the ram to 1400MHz when the motherboard puts reaching 1600mhz08:45
bazhangricard, ##hardware08:45
PanVI would like your help please, I am dual-booting windows and ubuntu. (2 partitions) I cannot run Windows 8 because they are broken, I will re install it but I need all files at C:/Users backed up. I tried accessing the second partition (Windows Partition) but it won't let me, with a message which says something about the NTFS partition being into an unsafe state. My request is: How can I fix this NTFS partition error message. (/dev/sda2)08:46
awtemplerMatsy: Can I send you the build log by email?08:46
PanV:)08:46
MatsyWhy's that?08:46
MatsyShouldn't be anything privacy-sensitive in them08:46
bazhanguse the windows repair tools PanV08:46
bazhanghelp in ##windows PanV08:46
PanVbazhang08:47
PanVI know ##windows08:47
PanVI will fix windows later08:47
ricardnot is posibol for me hardware08:47
bazhangPanV, ubuntu wont have any tools to fix ntfs08:47
PanVI need to back up my files from the windows partition :/08:47
ricardif I want to know if my being limited to 1333mhz cpu, motherboard only makes me stop up the ram to 1400MHz when the motherboard puts reaching 1600mhz08:47
bazhangPanV, so get help in the appropriate channels, which is NOT here08:47
PanVOkay Okay08:48
bazhangricard, how is that a software question08:48
awtemplerMatsy: NameError: global name 'file' is not defined08:48
bazhangricard, ask in a hardware channel, such as ##hardware08:48
ricardyes but not is posibol for me enter in ##hardware08:50
bazhangricard, thast not our problem08:50
Matsyawtempler: Can you upload the full build log?08:50
ricardif I want to know if my being limited to 1333mhz cpu, motherboard only makes me stop up the ram to 1400MHz when the motherboard puts reaching 1600mhz08:51
Matsyawtempler: Make sure you're running this on python2.7 though08:51
ricardplease tell me08:51
bazhang!ot | ricard08:51
ubotturicard: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!08:51
bazhangricard stop asking here08:51
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Matsy!english | ricard08:52
ubotturicard: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList08:52
Saturn812what's the proper way to install from a sourcefile? I remember reading, "make" leaves a bunch of junk and there was a nice wrap around it...08:53
EriC^^!makecheck08:53
EriC^^!checkinstall08:53
ubottucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!08:53
Saturn812yes, thanks you. I think this is it08:54
EriC^^Saturn812: you can run make clean after running make to remove unnecessary stuff too08:54
Matsy^08:54
MatsyThat's the only thing you need to do08:54
Matsymake && make install && make clean for 99% of the applications08:54
EriC^^yeah the other one is to make package out of it and integrate it into the system08:54
Saturn812what about uninstalling something that have been installed using "make"? Doesn't it fill the bin or other system folders with unused binaries and libs?08:55
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slanihelo. after update to 15.04 my sound stop working08:56
EriC^^Saturn812: sometimes the author has a make uninstall for it08:56
EriC^^it depends08:56
slanican someone help08:56
Matsymake uninstall?08:56
MatsyI've never seen that :p08:56
EriC^^Saturn812: if you want to remove it easily read about the check install method above08:56
EriC^^Matsy: never used it myself, but it exists :P08:57
EriC^^depends on the author i guess08:57
MatsyEriC^^: That's nice, though08:58
EriC^^yeah08:58
EriC^^:)08:58
MatsyIt's one thing I hade about unix-systems. All the files are everywhere08:58
MatsyFor example, who the hell expects mysql databases to be at /var/lib/mysql/08:59
EriC^^yeah it's organized yet all over the place08:59
MatsyAnd when you do an apt-get --purge, it won't even remove it08:59
EriC^^has it's good and bad i guess08:59
MatsyEriC^^: I end up just moving everything every time I spin up a new server09:00
MatsyTo a folder called /serverconf09:00
EriC^^yup09:02
SkyriderOke...09:04
SkyriderI was hoping someone could explain something to me..09:04
SkyriderI just installed ubuntu 14.04 (I believe) minimal.. barely anything installed.09:05
SkyriderI installed sudo, nginx, php5 and fpm.. that's it.09:05
EriC^^ok09:05
MatsyThat's a good start09:05
SkyriderNow when I attempt to install mysql server, I'm getting09:05
MatsyNo apache09:06
Skyriderdpkg: error processing package mysql-server (--configure):09:06
MatsyDid you do apt-get update?09:06
Skyrideryes, I had to do that otherwise no packages were found.09:06
SkyriderHad to do so before sudo.09:06
Skyrider**for sudo installation09:06
EriC^^try sudo apt-get -f install09:06
Skyrideralso did, same error.09:06
SkyriderNow I installed debian 8 (quick installation), did the exact same things as above..09:06
Skyridersql installed, perfectly.09:06
EriC^^try sudo dpkg --configure -a09:06
Skyrideralso did, same error.09:07
EriC^^what's the error?09:07
SkyriderIt's a fresh installation, how the heck is this even possible?09:07
MatsyYeah, the full error09:07
MatsySkyrider: Probably because php5-fpm installs a fpm-mysql package as well09:07
Skyrider1 sec, I'll install ubuntu again.09:07
SkyriderShouldn't take long.09:07
MatsyInstall mysql before fpm09:07
AppAraatwileee: I think I figured out why I don't have audio on skype... I apparently don't have pulse installed. Should I simply aptitude install pulseaudio or do I have to configure it a bit further?09:07
MatsyLet's see in what order I install my web server packages09:08
Matsypackages = ['nginx', 'mysql-server','php5-fpm','php5-mysql','quota']09:08
wileeeAppAraat, What DE is this?09:08
AppAraatwileee: Ubuntu minimal with LXDE minimal.09:09
SkyriderSo I should install mysql-server first, then fpm?09:09
MatsyYes.09:09
wileeeAppAraat, Ah, not sure, just wondered why pulse was not there.09:09
AppAraathttp://apaste.info/TKp09:09
AppAraatI think I need gstreamer as well.09:09
MatsyMake sure to just install php5-fpm09:09
MatsyAnd php5-mysql09:09
EriC^^Skyrider: you can install them at the same time and apt should figure stuff out by itself09:09
EriC^^( just a fyi )09:10
MatsyEriC^^: Not with fpm, though09:10
EriC^^but do as Matsy says, i dunno much about those packages09:10
MatsyI've had weird issues installing fpm before mysql09:10
Skyriderwhats the package named for a installation gui?09:10
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SkyriderI forgot the name.. fontend or something09:10
Skyrider**frontend09:11
MatsyWhy do you need an installation gui?09:11
SkyriderI don't like packages whining about something missing.09:11
MatsyMySQL will prompt you for one thing via a gui, and that is the root password09:11
MatsyIt won't miss anything?09:11
Skyriderblue or black gui? :p09:11
Matsyred :p09:11
slanihelo. after update to 15.04 my sound stop working09:12
slanican someone help09:12
Skyriderare you serious..09:12
Matsyalani: install alsa-base and pulseaudio from apt09:13
Skyriderhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11940943/09:13
Matsywtf, dialog?09:13
MatsyOh, you aren't installing this on a server?09:13
wileeeAppAraat, There is a codec package some use its lubuntu-restricted-extras in your case has gstreamer good bad and ugly09:13
SkyriderI am?09:13
MatsyThis is weird09:14
SkyriderUsing minimal installation btw..09:14
Skyriderbarely anything installed.. but still..09:14
wileeeAppAraat, Has MS font, you can refuse it when asked if you run it.09:14
MatsySkyrider: I just reinstalled mysql from aptitude09:15
MatsyNo error09:15
Skyridermaybe an image issue?09:15
Skyriderwrong minimal installation?09:15
MatsyHm, that might be it. I don't know09:16
MatsyTry DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get install mysql-server09:16
MatsyWould be 'really' weird if that worked though09:16
Skyridernvm, its running now..09:18
__thuginc__hi all09:18
SkyriderI used a non-minimal installation this time.09:18
__thuginc__i have a ?09:18
SkyriderI think the problem is the minimal image file.09:18
MatsySkyrider: Yeah, I never use minimal image files09:19
MatsyJust use the full image file, and only install openssh there09:19
SkyriderBut thanks :)09:19
MatsySkyrider: Glad it worked09:19
EriC^^__thuginc__: go for it09:19
__thuginc__i am trying to  remove the white dots from my login ubuntu 15.04 can any one help me09:19
wileeenot much in 35mb09:19
MatsyMake sure you configure your fpm correctly!! Everyone always forgets that fpm has configuration files as well09:19
MatsyAnd then end up getting hacked09:19
EriC^^__thuginc__: what do you want? the boot msgs? blabla .... [OK] ?09:19
linuxrHi...I use ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS with latest updates installed. When I was just browsing the web with firefox, I suddenly experienced a "system freeze"...mouse cursor and keyboard did not not respond...this was for about 30sec...after that, the system lagged some but recovered then. I could not find anything suspicios in kernel log...only thing was the "rtkit" adjusting some stuff..can someone help?09:20
Matsylinuxr: You just had it once?09:20
__thuginc__ave thnag i have try so far ant working09:20
linuxrMatsy, I think I had it some weeks ago, and now again09:20
Matsylinuxr: Try dmesg09:20
EriC^^__thuginc__: what exactly do you want?09:21
linuxrthat's what I did, Matsy09:21
MatsyOh, then also check in /var/log/syslog if anything happened09:21
__thuginc__i want to remove the white dots from  login09:21
MatsyWhat white dots?09:21
linuxrMatsy, I could not find anything indicating a problem09:21
SkyriderNow to soon reinstall znc and get my irc back..09:21
EriC^^__thuginc__: the logo while ubuntu loads?09:22
Seveas__thuginc__: you mean the password prompt?09:22
__thuginc__the white dots over the wallpaper in the logon screan09:22
EriC^^ohh09:22
MatsyOHHH09:22
EriC^^__thuginc__: type sudo -i09:22
EriC^^then xhost +local:09:23
__thuginc__ok09:24
EriC^^__thuginc__: then type su lightdm -s /bin/bash09:24
__thuginc__ok09:25
EriC^^then type dconf-editor , go to com > canonical .. unity-greeter09:25
EriC^^( or something similar, and then remove the white dots on background )09:25
EriC^^__thuginc__: it's called draw grid, remove the check next to it09:26
MatsyEriC^^: Called draw-grid, iirc09:26
Matsyah okay09:26
Matt_teni#stripe09:26
EriC^^Matsy: yeah, thanks :)09:26
__thuginc__thanks09:27
__thuginc__that  did it09:27
__thuginc__you guys rock09:27
EriC^^no problem09:27
__thuginc__? do  you  know if mdm  will work in 15.04 ?09:28
EriC^^no idea09:28
EriC^^!info mdm09:28
ubottumdm (source: mdm): Utilities for single-host parallel shell scripting. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.1.3-2.1 (vivid), package size 29 kB, installed size 116 kB09:28
__thuginc__ok09:28
EriC^^i don't even think it's in the repos09:29
__thuginc__lol09:29
linuxranyone having problems with rtkit-daemon (temporary system freezes / keyboard mouse lock)? what is that thing good for anyway?09:29
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awtemplerMatsy: yes although I do have multiple versions of python....I do point to python2.7 before the build....but it still breaks09:29
Matsyawtempler: When you start /usr/bin/env python09:30
Matsyawtempler: What do you get?09:30
MatsyWhat version?09:30
awtemplerpython 2,7,609:31
MatsyWeird then, I can't tell you more without the full build log09:31
SovekOk, something very weird is going on09:35
Sovekfor the second time, my sudo password has been changed.... without me actually changing it09:36
chaos7theoryWho has experience dual-booting Ubuntu with Windows on an SSD? How do you account for overprovisioning?09:36
chaos7theorySpecifically Samsung's software does automatic overprovisioning after the last drive09:36
Matsychaos7theory: So?09:40
AppAraatthanks wileee09:41
AppAraatas of now09:41
AppAraatThe following packages have unmet dependencies:09:41
AppAraat libavcodec-extra-54 : Conflicts: libavcodec54 but 6:9.18-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 is installed.09:41
AppAraat libavcodec54 : Conflicts: libavcodec-extra-54 but 6:9.18-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 is to be installed.09:41
AppAraatso far as I can see it they're the same packages, but called differently?09:41
chaos7theoryMatsy: I'm wondering what's safer to do for the SSD, if to just create the Linux partitions after the OPed space09:41
Matsychaos7theory: Everything is 'safe' for the SSD09:42
AppAraatwileee: would I be able to remove this package and all of what it installed if things go boom?09:42
MatsyIt will just ake it a tad slower if you write over the OP09:42
MatsyAt least, for Samsung disks. Don't know if other SSDs work the same way09:42
wileeeAppAraat, probably a purge would, have not had or seen an issue with these packages regularly. You have a mini build it is part of the fun. ;)09:44
SkyriderIs it me..09:45
Skyrideror is installing things through ubuntu (ssh) faster than debian09:45
VowelNewbie here. I need help installing this:  https://launchpad.net/~tomahawk/+archive/ubuntu/ppa09:45
Skyriderknow how the sources list work?09:46
wileeeAppAraat, Check the sources.list that all the stock repos are open.09:47
MatsyVoltasalt: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tomahawk/ppa && sudo apt-get update09:47
AppAraatwileee: lol I guess. This machine I'm configuring is pretty much a skype caller for my grandparents. I gave them an Android tablet with skype but they couldn't get used to the interface lol.09:49
OerHeks!ppa | Voltasalt, carefull with ppa's    .09:49
ubottuVoltasalt, carefull with ppa's    .: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge09:49
AppAraatoh well, at least thanks for the help so far :)09:49
MatsyThat's where you go wrong. Thinking Android tablets actually work09:49
Tzunamiihaha09:49
MatsyShould've given them an iPad. I'm a heavy android user, but man, their tablets suck09:50
AppAraatMatsy: iPad would be my first choice as well. I agree.09:50
AppAraatbut09:50
VowelI had added the PPA but I don't know what to do now https://launchpad.net/~tomahawk/+archive/ubuntu/ppa09:50
AppAraatMatsy: not when an iPad is worth a year of income :)09:51
MatsyJust install tomahawk?09:51
AppAraat?09:51
VowelHow?09:51
Vowelsudo apt-get install  tomahawk?09:51
Matsysudo apt-get install tomahawk09:51
AppAraatoh nvm09:51
MatsyThat's what I'd assume09:52
VowelAh, okay. Thanks09:52
Skyriderdont you have to apt-get update after adding a ppa.09:52
MatsyYeah you do, but I added that to the command09:52
Skyriderah :)09:52
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VowelIt's done. Thanks :)09:53
pragomer1what is the best / an actual ppa for ffmpeg under ubuntu 14.04 ?09:56
Matsypragomer1: I wouldn't use a ppa for that09:57
nanozwhat is spool file ?09:57
Matsyffmpeg needs so much specific configuration, that using a ppa kinda defeats the purpose09:58
pragomer1Matsy: hi.. what would you do?09:58
Matsyhm09:58
UllarahSilly question, but is there a way to activate a HDD on startup? I have my drives mounted, but I can't use them until I go and click on them individually in nautilus. For example, I have my steam games on another HDD, if I don't activate it, my games will not load.09:58
UllarahSorry if that doesn't make sense :/09:58
MatsyI'd just compile from source09:58
pragomer1its funny.. in 14.04 ffmpeg isnt in repos.. but mplayer1 is... in 15.04 ffmpeg is back.. but mplayer1 is gone.. that's  grrrrrrrrrrr.........09:59
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SkyriderSweet10:02
Skyridermy znc is working again10:02
root___mivan10:06
OerHeks!rootirc10:07
ubottuIt's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.10:07
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linuxrhehe10:08
root___hehe10:08
root___hehehe10:08
root___van itt valami háztáji linux börze?10:09
root___< hello! >10:12
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root___        \   ^__^10:12
root___         \  (oo)\_______10:12
root___            (__)\       )\/\10:12
root___                ||----w |10:12
Kartagisnot ubuntu specific, but does UTF-8 cover LTR languages?10:12
cfhowlettroot___, stop10:12
Kartagislike Hebrew10:12
Kartagisor non-Latin languages10:13
cfhowletthost: ubuntu 14.04  guest: windows 7.  guest additions installed.  can't seem to add my mounted USB stick. no answer in #vbox as yet ...10:14
root___                  ."`".10:15
root___              .-./ _=_ \.-.10:15
root___             {  (,(oYo),) }}10:15
root___             {{ |   "   |} }10:15
root___             { { \(---)/  }}10:15
root___             {{  }'-=-'{ } }10:15
root___hello10:17
bazhang!hu10:17
ubottuMagyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál10:17
bazhangroot___, ^10:17
root___magyar vagyok10:17
OerHeksKartagis, sure, "almost all Latin alphabets, and also Greek, Hebrew, Arabic, Syriac and Tāna alphabets " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-810:17
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Kartagis!hu | root___10:18
ubotturoot___: Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál10:18
Guest65251username caccoolo10:18
KartagisOerHeks: so export LC_LANG=he_HE.UTF-8 is better?10:19
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OerHeksKartagis, not sure LC_LANF=he_HE.UTF8 is correct, is this Hebrew?10:22
Kartagisaye10:22
cfhowlett HexChat: 2.9.6 ** OS: Linux 3.16.0-43-lowlatency x86_64 ** Distro: Debian jessie/sid ** CPU: 8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4712HQ CPU @ 2.30GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 799MHz ** RAM: Physical: 15.6GB, 92.1% free ** Disk: Total: 458.1GB, 45.3% free ** VGA: 8086:0416 ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDMI1: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: None found ** Uptime: 6h 39m 2s **10:22
hobbyistHi all, I am using ubuntu 14.04 on acer aspire. I suspect my fan is not working. My laptop automatically shuts down after a few minutes.10:22
bazhangovershare cfhowlett10:22
hobbyistPlease help me out.10:22
cfhowlettbazhang, sorry.  should've sent it /msg me ...10:23
bazhang!sensors | hobbyist10:23
ubottuhobbyist: To access CPU temperature sensors and detect fan speeds, install the lm-sensors package. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto for installation and usage instructions.10:23
OerHeksKartagis, locale -a # shows if it is available, else you find on this page how to add yours https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale10:24
hobbyistbazhang, thanks let me try10:24
easyOnMehas anyone here used filezilla on ubuntu before10:24
easyOnMeI need help on setting the associated program for certain file types10:25
bazhangeasyOnMe, whats the exact issue10:25
bazhang!info filezilla10:26
ubottufilezilla (source: filezilla): Full-featured graphical FTP/FTPS/SFTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.9.0.5-1ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 1540 kB, installed size 5282 kB10:26
easyOnMeI already have the path of the associated file but when I try to set the desired associated program it does open10:26
OerHekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingMimeTypes10:27
nanoz RED='\033[0;31m'10:29
nanoz what this does10:29
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* sbrikinais sboccia10:31
easyOnMebazhang: have you read my issue10:31
SkyriderI'm curious...10:31
Skyriderin /var/lib/mysql, where are the user Privileges saved?10:31
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingMimeTypes easyOnMe OerHeks already gave this10:32
easyOnMebazhang: ok thanks10:33
easyOnMebazhang: I do not get this10:35
easyOnMehow is the resource given related to filezilla program association10:36
CB6how do you flush dns for ubuntu? I'm getting an interesting DNS error for chromium10:36
bazhangeasyOnMe, what programs, where are they in the filesystem10:36
CB6DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN10:36
zaggynldon t think ubuntu caches dns?10:37
CB6in windows the command is ipconfig /flushdns what's it in Ubuntu?10:37
CB6http://askubuntu.com/questions/414826/how-to-flush-dns-in-ubuntu-12-04 implied here suggests it might but I don't know10:37
cfhowlett!dns | CB610:38
ubottuCB6: To set up a Domain Name Service see the !serverguide - https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/dns.html10:38
CB6I don't want to setup a DNS10:38
zaggynlhave you tried changing dns server?10:39
CB6I just want to be able to load a friend's site in Chromium. The error is exclusive to Chromium.10:39
OerHeksUbuntu by default does not provide DNS cache service.10:39
OerHeks* from your own url10:39
zaggynl^10:39
CB6Then that's not the issue as articles suggest.10:39
CB6It is Chromium isolated though.10:39
easyOnMebazhang: those that I work on in my local folders they are php js css and html files10:39
OerHeksCB6, if chromium only gives an error ( and not in Firefox) , clear the history in chromium10:40
CB6I've found Chromium to be sluggish.10:40
easyOnMeI want netbeans to open them for me when I double clicked on them in filezilla so that I after I work on them I can upload them immediately to the web server10:40
hobbyistubottu, how can I know if the fan is working properly? I have installed lm-sensors. And issued the command sensors. but it only shows temperatures.10:41
CB6even after clearing the cache cookies etc I'm still getting the same error10:42
hobbyistbazhang, how can I know if the fan is working properly? I have installed lm-sensors. And issued the command sensors. but it only shows temperatures. I did not know ubottu is a bot. :P10:43
CB6Is chromium the official Linux version of Chrome?10:44
cfhowlett!info chromium10:44
ubottuPackage chromium does not exist in vivid10:44
boodllebati have two monitors how to do split screen in ubutnu ?10:48
OerHeks!info chromium-browser10:49
ubottuchromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium web browser, open-source version of Chrome. In component universe, is optional. Version 43.0.2357.130-0ubuntu0.15.04.1.1174 (vivid), package size 50890 kB, installed size 187747 kB10:49
hobbyistHi all can anyone please tell me how to check if my fan is working properly?10:49
EriC^^do you hear it spinning?10:49
EriC^^install psensor and check the cpu temps10:49
OerHeksCB6, chromium is the opensource browser, google patches it and calls it chrome10:50
CB6k10:50
bekksWasnt it the other way round? Google strips down patches and releases the stripped down version as Chromium?10:50
OerHeksbekks, no?10:51
bekksOerHeks: Thats why I'm asking :)10:51
OerHeksoh, wikipedia says you are right .. "Google releases the majority of Chrome's source code as an open-source project Chromium"10:52
OerHeksi would have bet on no :-D10:52
cfhowlett!xrandr | boodllebat,10:52
ubottuboodllebat,: XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X.  Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR1210:52
bekksOerHeks: :)10:52
boodllebatcfhowlett: solved thanks for your time :)10:53
CB6I'm running dual monitors10:53
OerHeksThank you, learned something today10:53
CB6anyone running 4?10:53
cfhowlettboodllebat, happy2help!10:53
CB6I have two more monitors I'm considering running VM's on10:53
linuxuz3ramazon backed os cant play amazon instant video10:55
linuxuz3r;(10:55
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bekkslinuxuz3r: Whats "amazon backed os"?10:55
CB6Wonder what OS most stock brokers use with all those monitors.10:56
linuxuz3rubuntu10:56
linuxuz3risnt amazon ec2 ubuntu based10:56
CB6Google stopped using windows about 5 years ago. What are they typically running?10:57
CB6It isn't those stupid netbooks.10:57
bekksCB6: "Google" has a gazillion of computers - that question cannot be answered with a single OS.10:58
CB6Commonality not all :P10:58
CB6desktop not server based10:58
bekkslinuxuz3r: So you are using an Ubuntu EC2 installation?10:58
linuxuz3rno but i cant play amazon instant video on my ubuntu10:58
CB6I constantly get the no flash errors on sites :|10:59
bekkslinuxuz3r: So you arent using Ubuntu?10:59
OerHeksflash is dead10:59
CB6sure but how are people viewing pages with it then?10:59
linuxuz3rflash not dead10:59
bekkslinuxuz3r: Flash is dead.10:59
linuxuz3roh well11:00
linuxuz3rubuntu is still ok11:00
linuxuz3rawesome11:00
bekksCB6: Adobe stopped the linux development for flash a long time ago. Adobe and Google develop PepperFlash on Linux.11:01
bekkslinuxuz3r: So are you using Ubuntu?11:01
linuxuz3ryes11:01
bekkslinuxuz3r: You said you arent :)11:01
CB6Is Pepperflash any good for viewing then?11:01
bekksCB6: Yeah, you just have to install Chrome.11:02
CB6especially security wise11:02
CB6I have chromium browser and still can't view a lot of videos.11:02
CB6Not all but a lot11:02
CB6news sites etc11:02
OerHeksCB6, this page says no, use the regular flash plugin > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash11:02
bekksCB6: Chromium isnt Chrome. Chromium does NOT use PepperFlash.11:02
OerHeksor chrome with build-in pepperflash11:02
bekksCB6: Thats why I said Chrome.11:02
CB6Which is better Chromium or Chrome?11:03
OerHeksCB6, whatever you like. there is no single best11:03
bekksCB6: Chromium doesnt use PepperFlash. Chrome does.11:03
bekksCB6: Decide yourself.11:03
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AppAraatI just realized that there is only one issue I have to deal with before I can upgrade my main machine from 12.04 to Ubuntu 14.04... the broken bash completion :(11:04
bekksAppAraat: And why does it prevent the upgrade?11:05
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AppAraatnavigating through the files is broken on the CLI in that case.11:05
bekksAppAraat: You dont need bash completion for navigating hrough files.11:05
AppAraatand I have no idea which files to modify and whether it's the fault of my bashrc.11:05
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AppAraatthis is one of my aliases: alias ll='ls -l --all --human-readable --classify --show-control-chars --group-directories-first --color=auto'11:06
AppAraatbekks: When I do ll .tmux for example, it doesn't complete (there is .tmux.conf and .tmux/) also when I try to ll /etc/ it doesn't complete the files and dirs there.11:06
AppAraatI'm not sure whether that's bash completion, but it's one of the tab completions.11:07
bekksAppAraat: ls -lha .tmux11:07
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AppAraatbekks: http://kpaste.net/4d2cb3011:08
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bekksAppAraat: I dont need that output. But as you can see, cd and ls are sufficient for navigation and upgrading, you dont need ll11:08
AppAraatbut ll is one of the many aliases that I use which make it more comfortable11:09
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AppAraatare you saying that I should upgrade and face broken functionality?11:09
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BluesKajHiyas all11:09
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AppAraathi11:09
bekksAppAraat: You self-defined ll functionality is broken. Thats nothing what prvents an upgrade.11:10
OerHeksAppAraat, you put the blame on us, while you could backup that alias ??11:10
OerHekscome on, get real11:10
bekksAppAraat: In the last 20 years, I literally never used ll at all.11:10
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AppAraatI don't put blame on anyone, I just want to know what (completion) file I should change for my aliases to work.11:11
AppAraatalias llt='ls -l -t --all --human-readable --classify --show-control-chars --group-directories-first --color=auto'11:11
AppAraatthis is another I use11:11
bekksAppAraat: Fix your alias.11:11
AppAraatin what way is it broken?11:11
bekksAppAraat: I dont know how, since I never used ll.11:11
bekksAppAraat: ^^11:11
bomberman_how can i shut down the process, like in windows?11:11
bekksbomberman_: Shutdown which process?11:11
lasersAppAraat: ll .tmux*11:11
bomberman_mozilla11:11
bekksbomberman_: Click on the close icon?11:12
bomberman_its dont work11:12
AppAraatlasers: but .tmux doesn't complete on tab.11:12
AppAraatI guess this is a question more suited for #bash then.11:13
bekksbomberman_: File -> Quit? :)11:13
bomberman_let's try this11:13
bekksAppAraat: At least it's not an issue preventing an upgrade to 14.0411:13
AppAraatit was just an example, it makes it more time consuming to navigate the FS tree.11:14
CB6Is there an equivalent cache on Ubuntu like DNS flush?11:14
bomberman_can u give me a command , to close mozilla?11:14
bekksAppAraat: You dont even need to navigate at all for upgrading...11:15
bekksbomberman_: File -> Quit11:15
CB6fresh install of chrome in addtion to chromium doesn't resolve the page just firefox. Clearing the cache in chromium didn't work either and chrome is fresh install11:15
bekksCB6: Forget Firefox and Chromium, they are irrelevant for Chrome.11:15
cfhowlettdb6 new to this discussion.  if ffox not working for you?11:15
AppAraatbekks: right, but if I upgrade to a system I expect it to be in many ways better than my previous one. Broken navigation (which I use pretty frequently) is not what I would call an upgrade in this case, so as such I am trying to solve it before upgrading.11:16
bekkscfhowlett: Flash is broken on a lot of sites, for him.11:16
CB6the site I am trying to view isn't flash11:16
cfhowlettbekks, oh.  well, yeah.  flash is dying out ...11:16
CB6it's just only viewable on FF11:16
bekksCB6: So which site is it?11:16
CB6flash question was just relevant to browser issues of Ubuntu experience11:17
CB6jayknowscash.com an affiliate marketing site an industry peer has. isitdownorjustme.com shows it up and working11:17
bomberman_which file? that's didn't work, file command not found (11:17
CB6I'm tempted to pull up a windows install and see if chrome on there resolves it.11:18
bekksSite works fine here, in Chrome.11:18
CB6ok so some sort of local cache issue is blocking it?11:18
ioriabomberman_, ctrl + w not working ?11:18
OerHeksCB6, maybe your router is the issue?11:18
bekksCB6: Why do you think is a "local caching issue"?11:18
CB6because an article said to go ipconfig /flushdns which is a windows command to flush it. Also said the error is explicit to chrome11:19
bekksForget Windows articles when trying to solve non-Windows issues :)11:19
bekksThis aint Windows. :)11:19
CB6ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED is a different error from that posted earlier11:20
bekksA local DNS caching issue would affect firefox as well.11:20
OerHeksCB6 bekks we have been there before, no caching in ubuntu standard. seek the error outside your pc, like your router11:21
bomberman_bekks: ctrl+w didn't work11:21
CB6right but I'm not familiar with whatever caching ubuntu has so I am wondering browser aside what to flush out lol11:21
CB6k11:21
OerHeksbomberman_, pkill firefox #should close it11:21
ioriabomberman_, ps -A | grep firefox11:22
bomberman_OerHeks , thx11:22
bomberman_that's work fine)11:22
bomberman_simply i dont know a name of mozilla11:23
bomberman_it was firefox)11:23
CB6DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN is the error I got before11:23
bomberman_thx everyone11:23
OerHeksbomberman_, have fun :-)11:23
no0bixhello everyone, anyone here knew how to make google-chrome incognito the default browser for ubuntu? I mean, when I open a link it will just call chrome incognito mode.11:25
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OerHeksno0bix, make a custom launcher ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles11:26
linuxrOerHeks, you can try to use the -ingognito switch of the chrome binary11:26
linuxrno0bix I mean, not OerHeks :D11:26
ufkapport takes 100CPU, service apport stop doesn't stop it. any ideas ?11:27
no0bixOerHeks: Sorry, what I mean is to set it to default browser. I mean, for example, when I encountered a link in my terminal perhaps. It will just open on the incognito mode.11:27
no0bixlinuxr: If you don't mind, could you show me some link on how to do it?11:27
linuxrno0bix, check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187164511:28
killshi11:29
killsI am having problems installing skype on 14.0411:29
no0bixlinuxr: If I get it correctly, I believe that this would just create a shortcut?11:30
linuxrno0bix, yes thats just how to start chrome in incognito mode. How to set as default browser, I don't know...11:32
linuxrhave you checked this, no0bix ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/461943/how-do-i-open-chromium-in-incognito-mode-by-default11:33
no0bixthanks linuxr, I am currently reading it. Actually, I am having a problem with setting the default browser for gnome-terminal. Do you know how to set it. I have tried adding export BROWSER=/usr/bin/google-chrome --incognito to my bashrc file but it didn't work.11:35
bekksno0bix: You would have to set BROWSER="...."11:36
no0bixbekks: Yeah, I have set it but it didn't work I guess. I had already sourced it also.11:36
bekksno0bix: No, you didnt use "" :)11:37
no0bixbekks: Ah, alright. thanks. I will try it out. :)11:38
brainwashecho $BROWSER11:38
no0bixlinuxr: I guess that the solution didn't work for me.11:39
linuxrno0bix, did the instructions on askubuntu not fix that? I could imagine that once you put the link in the local share directory, it is valid for all applications. maybe you need to restart your desktop enviroment after you added the link11:39
linuxrno0bix, this maybe? http://askubuntu.com/questions/42344/how-do-i-change-the-browser-that-gnome-terminal-opens-links-with11:40
no0bixbrainwash: the value is '/usr/bin/google-chrome --incognito'11:40
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no0bixbekks: I had already changed it but it didn't work still.11:41
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no0bixlinuxr: maybe I can set it to the configuration editor? Do you know how to do it. I had remembered changing some settings there before?11:43
linuxrno0bix, I would try the link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/42344/how-do-i-change-the-browser-that-gnome-terminal-opens-links-with11:43
linuxrjust point to chrome --incognito or to a shell script containing this11:44
bekkslinuxr: you cannot point to an application with options.11:46
PivettaHi dear ubuntu users, I have a question, I`m installing nVidia cuda drivers for a tower computer, but actually I`m running there the OS on my usb stick, I wonder If I can install the drivers on my machine and if they would work there, I have here a GeForce 560m, the tower pc has got an nVidia Quadro, the drivers I`m using are the ones I`ve got with11:46
Pivetta wget from developer.nvidia.downloads.11:46
linuxrbekks, then create a script with the full options, and point to that11:46
bekkslinuxr: Yeah.11:47
bekksPivetta: Why dont you use a repository for the drivers? :)11:47
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OerHeksPivetta, leave those drivers, and use the ones provided in restricted drivers menu11:48
Pivettabekks: cause I`m working with caffe and cuDNN libraries11:48
PivettaI actually need the drivers from nvidia, but I just don`t know if they install different software for every graphic card or if they use a generic driver11:48
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no0bixlinuxr: I have tried it but it didn't work still. I mean, it does work with /usr/bin/firefox but it wouldn't accept the --incognito option?11:48
bekksno0bix: Correct.11:49
bekksno0bix: So just use a wrapper script you are pointing to.11:49
no0bixbekks: What do you mean by a wrapper script?11:49
no0bixa function?11:49
bekksno0bix: No. A script. Not a function.11:50
no0bixbekks: a bash script?11:50
bekksno0bix: Yes.11:50
linuxrno0bix, create a little shell script containing the complete path and parameters, and make it executable, then enter this as application11:50
no0bixok, I will just try it.11:50
linuxrmaybe there should be an option in the settings manager which offers start in private mode...most browsers support this afaik11:55
al2o3-crno0bix: /usr/bin/firefox --private-window11:55
no0bixbekks: linuxr: It didn't work either. I had just created a simple script that calls /usr/bin/google-chrome --incognito11:56
bekksno0bix: Did you add a shebang to the scrit and made it executable?11:56
bekks*script11:56
no0bixyeah, I had tested it also. It does open when ./.called11:57
linuxrshebang? what is that? :D11:57
bekksno0bix: What does "./.called" mean?11:57
no0bixlinuxr: #!11:57
al2o3-crlinuxr: #/bin/bash11:57
al2o3-cryep that11:57
linuxrhehe...nice one thanks no0bix , al2o3-cr11:58
no0bixI mean, I had created a test script locally and then created a symbolic link on the /usr/local/bin folder11:58
bekksno0bix: Dont use symbolic links. Create the script in /usr/local/bin/11:58
no0bixbekks: I had just noticed that the export BROWSER is not working? I mean, I had tried to add /usr/bin/firefox on it but the link would still open on chrome?11:59
no0bixbekks: It just works the same even though you will use symbolic links on it. :)12:00
no0bixbekks: At least from my experience.12:00
no0bixbekks: maybe I can add a default editor on gconf-settings? Do you know how to do it like this one.12:02
al2o3-crno0bix: what are you tryin to do?12:03
al2o3-cr*trying12:03
no0bixHello al2o3-cr, I am trying to set my gnome-terminal to open links on chrome incognito.12:05
al2o3-crah12:05
oleg_12412:05
no0bixsorry I haven't read your prev mess.12:05
no0bixal2o3-cr: Do you know how to do it?12:06
no0bix*message.12:06
ioriano0bix, and why do you want to open it in terminal ?12:06
linuxrioria, why not?12:07
iorialinuxr, oh ... i got it12:07
no0bixioria: for eg: I am currently using weechat as my irc client and I opened it via gnome-terminal. I just wanted to open the links here directly to incognito.12:07
OerHeksno0bix, don open weechat tru terminal then, solved12:08
no0bixlinuxr: Do you know any other ways on changing the default browser. Excluding the System Settings one?12:09
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no0bixOerHeks: I would just like to open it via the terminal since I had set my own Profiles here.12:09
OerHeksyou are really making it harder for yourself.12:09
no0bixOerHeks: Are there any other ways to open weechat?12:09
no0bixOerHeks: I guess it could be a learning experience also.12:10
al2o3-crweechat is curses based12:10
linuxrno0bix, no..but I think it should work via the "preferred applications" system settings12:10
ioriano0bix, where is your link to chrome /usr/bin/chrome-browser ?12:11
al2o3-crno0bix: to open chrome in incognito mode use -incognito12:11
no0bixioria: it is in /usr/bin/google-chrome12:11
no0bixlinuxr: Yeah, but I guess I just couldn't choose incognito there? Or maybe I am missing something.12:12
linuxrno0bix, no, not directly. that's why you need to create a new shell script and select this (thats a little workaround)12:13
no0bixal2o3-cr: yeah, I believe that it is done that way. But I just couldn't set it as a default browser. I mean, I have a shortcut for incognito also.12:13
al2o3-crno0bix: what does update-alternative --config x-www-browser say?12:14
no0bixlinuxr: yeah, I had created this one http://paste.ubuntu.com/11941642/12:14
linuxrno0bix, looks good...does it work when you directly execute this?12:15
al2o3-crno0bix: it's one hyphen not two12:15
no0bixal2o3-cr: this is the result http://paste.ubuntu.com/11941649/12:16
ioriano0bix, i use firefox ... i got a script in /usr/bin/firefox ... modify it with an option and now firefox start with that option ... i don't now chrome ... maybe the same12:16
no0bixlinuxr: it does work when I called it directly.12:16
ioria*k12:16
al2o3-crno0bix: is -incognito not --incognito12:17
al2o3-crit is*12:17
linuxrno0bix, okay great. and when you choose this script in "preffered applications" -> web browser, and then restart, it doesnt work?12:17
no0bixal2o3-cr: I believe that they just work either way.12:18
al2o3-crah, you're right :p12:19
al2o3-crshould of checked first12:19
no0bixioria: I don't know if I can change that? I mean, I am not that good with bash.12:20
al2o3-crno0bix: try this: gconftool-2 -t string -s /desktop/gnome/applications/browser/exec "/usr/bin/google-chrome-stable --incognito"12:21
ioriano0bix, can you paste cat /usr/bin/google-chrome ?12:21
no0bixlinuxr: Sorry, would you mind telling me were can I change it?12:21
Pivettadoes anyone knows if the third party drivers from nvidia are generic drivers or if I have to install them on the right machine?12:21
no0bixioria: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/11941677/12:22
linuxrno0bix, in the GUI (settings -> preferred applications -> web browser)...probably does the same thing as al2o3-cr just posted12:22
ioriano0bix, make a copy of the file , and at the end after "$@"  add your options12:23
no0bixlinuxr: I am using ubuntu 12.04 with Unity disabled.12:24
Pivettathe guide I`m following compiles a file that is /usr/local/cuda/samples/1_Utilities/deviceQuery , Does the video card be recognized there?12:25
linuxrno0bix, oh well then..try al2o3-cr 's suggestion12:25
vector_Hi all, I'm trying to download apt updates but I get a CDROM issue12:25
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TrerotIm having trouble finding an OS that can be installed on a 8GB ssd...12:27
cfhowlett!lubuntu | Trerot,12:28
ubottuTrerot,: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.12:28
TrerotSo far i have just tried latest lts peppermint and latest lts linux-lite12:29
no0bixlinuxr: Ok. al2o3-cr : I guess it kinda worked but the --incognito was passed as a url.12:29
Trerotnice! il grab a look12:29
no0bixioria: it does run as an incognito. Would you like me to change the google-chrome into the new file?12:29
vector_I don't have a cdrom drive on my computer, to update my atp is giving me errors due to that. What can I do about it?12:29
linuxrno0bix, so did it start in incognito mode or not? :)12:30
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no0bixlinuxr: it did. :)12:31
no0bixlinuxr: I guess the problem now is how to pass the paremeter?12:31
ioriano0bix, your call :-)12:31
linuxrno0bix, when it opened in incognito, the parameter was passed correctly, no?12:32
vector_Anyone mind helping me?12:33
cfhowlettvector_, you don't need a cdrom to update apt12:33
vector_It seems to me giving  me a constant error about mount points12:34
linuxuz3rxD12:34
no0bixlinuxr: sorry, I messed up with my answer. it does run on normal mode but it passed the incognito as a url parameter. For example : http://www.digg.com%20--incognito/12:34
Trerotdoes lubuntu ask for "at least 8.6 GB available drive space" when installing?12:34
no0bixioria: will the new updates affect it if I change the file?12:35
k1l!paste | vector_ put the errormessages there including the command used12:35
ubottuvector_ put the errormessages there including the command used: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:35
cfhowlettTrerot, it does not12:35
linuxrno0bix, oh I see :D12:35
ioriano0bix, you should back up the original file and use the modified one... if something wrong you reverse it12:35
SkyriderMmhh12:35
SkyriderIts the first time I'm officially using ubuntu as server..12:35
SkyriderNoticed that ubuntu uses more swap than memory, while debian uses more memory over sswap.12:36
SkyriderIs that normal?12:36
no0bixioria: I am really sorry but I am really hesitant on this solution?12:36
vector_Will do, give me one second12:36
ioriano0bix, i see12:36
no0bixlinuxr: yeah, something is kinda wrong i guess?12:36
linuxrno0bix, was that your shell script or the exact suggestion of al2o3-cr ?12:36
k1lSkyrider: look at the swappiness settings then12:36
Trerotcfhowlett: thanks mate =P then il download it straight away12:36
cfhowlettTrerot, better results if you .torrent it12:37
no0bixioria: ok, thanks. But I guess your solution works also. I haven't tried changing it though.12:37
ioriano0bix, ok12:37
no0bixlinuxr: I have done what al2o3-cr suggested. It just passed the --incognito as a parameter but I think that it is a bit closer to the solution.12:38
linuxrno0bix, you could try with "/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome --incognito %U" instead, or if that does not work, with your script12:38
vector_Alright, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/11941735/12:38
Trerotcfhowlett: im getting around 400KB/s which is about the entire capacity of this spot(not at home)12:39
Trerotits more than enough i guess =P12:39
cfhowlettTrerot, torrent has more robust error checking but ... YMMV12:39
vector_This is probably a simple problem, just started using Linux a day ago.12:39
k1lvector_: so you want to use the internet connection? and its giving that error about cd?12:40
cfhowlettvector_, you've installed apt-cdrom?12:40
Trerotcfhowlett: that is true.. then i dont have to redownload the entire think and just recheck the download..12:40
Trerotthing*12:40
cfhowlettTrerot, well you really SHOULD md5sum the .iso regardless of the download method ...12:40
cfhowlettvector_, scratch that.  apt-cdrom is a command not a program12:41
Trerotor i can just download it with http and then add a torrent to the file location if it fails12:41
no0bixlinuxr: I believe the it is still passing the incognito on the url?12:41
vector_k1il_: I didn't know there was a different method aside from internet connection12:41
linuxrno0bix, have you tried adding the "%U" parameter at the end?12:41
vector_cfhowlett: yes, it goes through the downloads in command prompt but then it gives me that error12:41
linuxrno0bix, I think that was missing in al2o3-cr suggestion12:42
no0bixioria: I have tried adding the script on the gconf-editor also but it kinda passed the incognito on the url?12:42
no0bixlinuxr: yeah, I had added the %U also.12:42
cfhowlettvector_, so you have a bad cdrom.  try making a USB12:42
ioriano0bix, sorry, never used gconf-editor12:42
k1lvector_: look into the system settings (i dont know for xfce actually) there is a settings for the updates. look into there and make sure "cdrom" is unchecked.12:43
k1lvector_: issue right now is it looks for the cd to make the update.12:43
linuxrno0bix, so it looks like "... google-chrome-stable --incognito %U" ?12:43
no0bixioria: that's just fine. I have learnt something new today anyway. :)12:43
hobbyistHi lm-sensor does not seem to access motherboard sensors. Any help pleasE?12:44
no0bixlinuxr: yeah, it does looks like that one. I have even tried backticks but it just throw an error. I guess I had messed up with those changes.12:44
vector_k1l: I just unchecked it, earlier today I checked it under the assumption that the more updates the better12:44
ioriano0bix, i think now ubuntu uses dconf-editor12:44
hobbyistI am not able to configure my cpu fan.12:44
linuxrno0bix, theres another variant...do you have a file like this: /etc/chromium-browser/default ?12:45
no0bixioria, linuxr : is it alright if I can get back on this channel again? I guess I had created a problem. I can't even open google-chrome --incognito now. :)12:47
no0bixioria: linuxr : I will just try to fix it if you don't mind.12:47
molgrumwhy isn't gnaural in the repos?12:47
ioriano0bix, what did you do ?12:47
linuxrn0fuq, no worries12:48
linuxrno0bix I mean, not n0fuq ;)12:48
no0bixioria: linuxr : Sorry, I guess I had changed the chrome binary files. :)12:50
no0bixI had returned it again. I guess the gconf didn't work after all? I mean, I had just added the changes on /usr/bin/google-chrome. I am really sorry for messing up.12:51
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linuxrno0bix, of course you must not touch the binaries ;)12:52
no0bixlinuxr: sorry for that, I was just thinking that I am editing the copied file. ;)12:52
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linuxrno0bix, thats no drama :)12:53
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no0bixioria: linuxr: I just don't understand this one. I have copied the /usr/bin/google-chrome to /usr/bin/chrome-new. When I open it via the terminal 'chrome-new'. It opens the incognito mode but when I use it on gconf-editor it pass incognito as a parameter?12:55
ioriano0bix, sorry... what did you do ?12:56
linuxrno0bix, now I can't follow you...why do you want to duplicate the chrome binary?12:56
linuxrthat will break as soon as you install a new version of chrome12:57
no0bixioria: It is fine now. I had edited the orig file. :)12:57
ioriano0bix, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11941677/    this, what you posted, it's just the starting script ... it's not the binary !12:58
no0bixlinuxr: I had passed the incognito param on the binary file directly. It wasn't a binary file btw. It is just a normal bash file. I thought it woudld be a bin also.12:58
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no0bixioria: yeah, it wasn't a binary file. I did thought that everything on /bin would be binary except for my scripts but I just knew something new today I guess.13:00
ioriano0bix, good :þ13:00
linuxrno0bix, ah okay now I see again where you are. Thats why I suggested the "%U" parameter. I think the gconf-setting is not correct the way you entered it13:00
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no0bixioria: :)13:01
no0bixlinuxr: I had opened the gconf-editor gui directly.13:01
linuxrno0bix, also check this out (especially the last post) askubuntu.com/questions/159630/how-do-i-make-google-chrome-open-incognito-by-default13:03
Oderichello13:05
Odericeverybody13:05
Oderici have a question please13:05
cfhowlettOderic, 1.  stop hitting the <enter> key.  2.  ask your question13:06
Oderici would like create a personnal dns on tor server with scallion or eschalot ...13:06
no0bixlinuxr: thanks. It did work but I am kinda worried about this solution. :)13:07
no0bixlinuxr: I mean, there were root files I suppose.13:08
Trerotcfhowlett: lubuntu installation ask me to have at least 8.6GB availabe drive space13:09
cfhowlettTrerot, recommedned not mandated13:11
Trerotcfhowlett: i cant press continue..13:11
cfhowlett!mini | Trerot,13:12
ubottuTrerot,: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD13:12
k1lTrerot: you still can do a minimal install and install only what you need13:12
thecoolguyhello13:14
Trerotk1l: downloading minimal install image now =)13:14
codepython777is anyone running the AMD R7 370 on ubuntu here? Driver issues ?13:14
linuxrno0bix, what do you mean with root-files? this can be a solution entirely private to your user13:15
linuxrah no0bix, you mean the "/etc/" solution13:16
no0bixlinuxr: I mean, it was owned by root. But I guess I can just do this one also? I am kinda worried when there are new updates. It might or might not change?13:16
no0bixlinuxr: yeah. :)13:16
linuxrno0bix, yes thats a global solution. but if you're the only person on the computer and always want private mode, that's perfectly fine13:17
PiLhey all, im not getting full international characters, how can i tell if im in utf-1613:18
no0bixlinuxr: Ok, thanks. I believe that I would just settle with this solution for now. Thanks again.13:19
linuxrno0bix, no problem13:19
slani_wc13:20
no0bixalso thanks to everyone who had helped me. ioria, linuxr, al2o3-cr, bekks13:21
schovhi I have 2 monitors and displays the resolution fine while the other isn't displaying native resolution. any tips?13:26
EriC^^!xrandr13:29
ubottuXRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X.  Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR1213:29
MonkeyDustschov  arandr is a gui for xrandr13:29
schovlet me check13:29
pz3GullHi Everyone!13:31
pz3GullWhat is the difference between the 14.04.2 and the 14.04.5 release ?13:33
Danieloi13:33
cfhowlettpz3Gull, there is no 14.04.513:33
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Guest32955oi13:34
Guest32955Blw13:34
MonkeyDustpz3Gull  14.04.3 will be released in august13:34
Guest32955tudo bem13:34
pz3GullThere is 14.04.5 in the "alternative downloads"13:34
cfhowlettGuest32955, ask your ubuntu questions13:34
cfhowlettpz3Gull, link??13:34
MonkeyDustpz3Gull  you mean 12.04.13:34
MonkeyDustpz3Gull  you mean 12.04.513:34
pz3Gullhttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads13:34
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cfhowlettpz3Gull, read again.  there IS NO 14.04.513:35
Daniel39oi13:35
pz3GullOh, Sorry :$13:35
Daniel39oi13:36
Daniel39tudo bem13:36
badbodhoi Daniel3913:36
Daniel39sim13:36
cfhowlett!english | Daniel3913:36
ubottuDaniel39: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList13:36
MonkeyDust!br13:36
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.13:36
Daniel39ok13:36
Daniel39como eu meto o Anonymous em portuges pff13:37
no0bixlinuxr, ioria, al2o3-cr, OerHeks, bekks. Sorry, I guess creating a new .desktop file works also. I haven't just replaced all the instances of the exec command. Anyways, thank you all again.13:37
badbodhi propose official ubuntu channel for minion language13:37
Daniel39eu nao sei como meter em portuges o Anonynous e foda13:38
Daniel39add skype/  daniel.pereira59613:39
badbodhDaniel39: for portuguese join #ubuntu-pt or #ubuntu-br13:40
MonkeyDustDaniel39  type /j #ubuntu-pt13:40
Daniel39obrigado13:42
jacob_allahu akbar13:43
zekehello ubuntu13:43
jacob_is there someone by the name of aidan here13:43
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Guest36857is there anyone in here with the name of aidan that lives in australia13:43
rharishanyone here who's used or knows how to configure groupwise ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GroupWise13:44
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eeeeexit13:50
CB6Is there any way to stream or connect to ubuntu from an ipad?13:52
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DiogoOla13:56
cfhowlett!es | Diogo13:57
ubottuDiogo: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.13:57
Diogosou o portugues13:57
cfhowlett!pt | Diogo13:57
ubottuDiogo: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.13:57
CB6lol13:57
CB6!de13:58
ubottuIn den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!13:58
CB6just in case jk13:58
cfhowlettplease don't do that13:58
Diogosou de portugal13:58
Diogoportugal13:59
Diogosou de portugal13:59
MonkeyDust!pt | Diogo13:59
ubottuDiogo: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.13:59
CB6lol Portuguese for Portugual option?14:00
CB6he's implying he's not from Brazilia :P14:00
nick_xhi everyone, is there a way to hide the username@system in the terminal, or at least replace it with some kind of cloak?14:01
nick_xam i muted?14:01
nick_xhello?14:01
CB6Eu não acho que há um canal Português. Estou usando o Google Translate, mas usar o canal sugerido a menos que você planeja falar em Inglês.14:02
CB6nick no14:02
cfhowlettnick_x, ask your ubuntu question14:02
nick_xok14:02
EriC^^nick_x: man -P "less -p ^PROMPTING" bash14:02
nick_xtold you14:02
EriC^^look into PS114:02
CB6Why does one want to do this?14:03
MonkeyDusthis real name is george bush14:03
CB6well that's a 70's show everyone's already seen.14:04
nick_xEriC^^ : it says what manual do you want ?14:04
EriC^^nick_x: must have a typo somewhere14:04
EriC^^nick_x: did you type bash at the end?14:04
nick_xCB614:05
nick_x: I am a bit paranoid and i am doing a report on a program, i don't want people know my id and everything14:05
nick_xEriC^^ : yes i do14:05
nick_xi type bash at the end14:05
EriC^^nick_x: type PS1="Yes Master? "14:05
CB6If one did a report on a program do a replace command on the text file for your user id14:05
nick_xisn't there a straight forward solution? to replace the whole @-ish string with something?14:06
agendhi - what's the usual nr o open files (result of lsof|wc -l ) i get about 65000 - is it normal?14:06
MonkeyDustagend  68502 here14:06
nick_xEriC^^ : you kidding right?14:07
EriC^^nick_x: am i?14:07
agendok - thanks14:07
nick_xdunno14:07
nick_xi am not Bush, help me people14:07
CB6Is that an autonomous manual :P14:07
CB6ie a bot14:07
Smileruthey14:07
EriC^^nick_x: just type PS1="$" if you want14:08
Smilerutso, I was installing kde-desktop on ubuntu14:08
EriC^^or whatever14:08
Smilerutand then I restarded, like an idiot14:08
Smilerutwhile it was running14:08
nick_xok14:08
Smilerutthen, when I booted back up it told me to run sudo dpkg --configure -a14:08
Smilerutand I did14:08
EriC^^nick_x: i was giving you an example of a silly line you could put14:08
Smilerutand now I wonder, what should I do>14:08
nick_xthough i love Bush14:08
nick_x;)14:08
Smilerutis kde-desktop installed or not14:08
nick_xnot really14:08
Smileruter14:08
Smilerutkubuntu-desktop**14:08
CB6umm14:08
cfhowlettSmilerut, logout.  choose kubuntu session.  login.14:09
Smilerutkubuntu session is not there.14:10
cfhowlettSmilerut, that suggests your installation failed.  repeat14:10
Smilerutalright14:10
CB6Does anyone remote in from their ipad or S5 (Android) phones?14:11
Smileruter14:11
Smilerut""14:11
Smilerut"kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version."14:11
Smilerutcfhowlett: this is a bit confusing14:11
cfhowlettSmilerut, sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop14:12
cfhowlettSmilerut, followed by sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop14:12
Smilerutcfhowlett: the install was frighteningly quick14:12
Smilerutis this normal?14:12
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Smilerutit just unpacked stuff14:13
cfhowlettSmilerut, depends on your isp and your software sources.14:13
Smilerutcfhowlett: no, I mean14:13
Smilerutwhen I first tried to install it, it took a long while14:13
Smilerutbut now it just did an unpacking thing14:13
Smilerutand boom.14:13
EriC^^cause it's probably already there and it just unpacked a few extra stuff14:13
cfhowlettSmilerut, that would the download of packages. actually configuring, i.e. unpacking is a local operation.14:14
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SmilerutSelecting previously unselected package kubuntu-desktop. (Reading database ... 329850 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../kubuntu-desktop_1.308.1.2_amd64.deb ... Unpacking kubuntu-desktop (1.308.1.2) ... Setting up kubuntu-desktop (1.308.1.2) ...14:14
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Smilerutthat's all it did.14:14
Smilerutalright, hold on, let me see if it works14:14
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Smilerutalright14:18
Smilerutit worked.14:18
cfhowlettSmilerut, congrats.14:18
Smilerutit didn't work when I logged out though, I had to restart14:18
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Smilerutand for some reason it still thinks I have Xubuntu-desktop installed14:19
Smileruteven though I did sudo-apt get remove xubuntu-desktop14:19
SmilerutI get the Xubuntu loading thing and the xubuntu login screen14:19
Smilerutwhat can I do about that14:19
cfhowlettSmilerut, sudo apt-get purge xubuntu-desktop       but where do you see xubuntu?14:19
cfhowlettSmilerut, ah.  different issue.14:19
Smilerutcfhowlett: what can I do about that?14:19
cfhowlettSmilerut, used to be a plymouth issue, now that we're on lightdm, I don't know.  let me look.14:20
MonkeyDustSmilerut  try "aptitude ~c"    http://superuser.com/questions/28781/how-to-remove-the-ubuntu-gnome-desktop-after-making-the-switch-to-kde14:21
Diogoentao faz tu lol14:22
badbodhSmilerut: maybe xubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, you still need to remove the actual xfce packages14:22
MonkeyDustSmilerut  typo, it's aptitude purge ~c14:22
SmilerutMonkeyDust: The program 'aptitude' is currently not installed.14:23
MonkeyDustSmilerut  sudo apt-get install aptitude14:24
SmilerutMonkeyDust: installed14:25
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Smilerutnow what?14:25
MonkeyDustSmilerut  sudo aptitude purge ~c   <-- you have to type the ~14:26
CB6How do you open multiple instances of an already open program?14:26
SmilerutMonkeyDust: done14:27
SmilerutMonkeyDust: should this have fixed my issue?14:27
cfhowlettMonkeyDust, that link references the plymouth scheme not the lightdm scheme.14:27
ioria!info lightdm-kde-greeter14:28
ubottulightdm-kde-greeter (source: lightdm-kde): LightDM KDE greeter. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3.2.2-1ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 1085 kB, installed size 2350 kB14:28
cfhowlettSmilerut, I think all you need do is install the lightdm-kde-greeter14:29
ioriadpkg -l *greeter ?14:29
MonkeyDustSmilerut  you want to change the lightdm menu? try this   sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth;sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm14:30
SmilerutMonkeyDust: all I know is that14:32
SmilerutI installed xubuntu-desktop14:32
Smilerutdidn't like xfce14:32
EriC^^oh14:32
Smilerutdid sudo-apt get remove xubuntu-desktop14:32
Smilerutand now I installed kubuntu-desktop14:32
Smileruthowever14:32
Diogohello14:32
SmilerutI still get the xubuntu login screen14:32
cfhowlettSmilerut, again, the changes you made do NOTHING to the login screen.14:33
Smilerutand the xubuntu loading screen when I boot up14:33
Smilerutcfhowlett: yeah, but I'd like it changed, I don't like the xubuntu loading/login screens14:33
cfhowlettSmilerut, did you install the kde-greeter?14:33
Smilerutcfhowlett: I don;t know if I did14:33
SmilerutI installed kubuntu desktop.14:34
EriC^^so uninstall xubuntu14:34
Smilerutwhen I installed xubuntu-desktop it changed the default ubuntu screens14:34
EriC^^if you dont like it14:34
SmilerutEriC^^: I did.14:34
badbodhSmilerut: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Install_Display_Managers#LightDM14:34
cfhowlett!info lightdm-kde-greeter > Smilerut14:34
SmilerutI thought that installing kubuntu-desktop would have the same effects as installing xubuntu-desktop14:35
badbodhneed to edit lightdm.conf14:35
Smilerutmeaning that, if xubuntu changed stuff by itself, so should kubuntu14:35
cfhowlettSmilerut, desktop = the distro default apps only14:35
Smilerutcfhowlett: so then how the heck did it change the loading and login screens?14:35
thecoolguyhellotrying to update tzdata but i'm not sure if it went through ?14:36
thecoolguyhttp://i.imgur.com/00z8WDv.png14:36
badbodhSmilerut: when you install a metapackage, it will install plenty of other stuff, but when you remove it all those 'other stuff' doi reamin.14:37
badbodh*remain14:37
Smilerutoh I see14:37
EriC^^Smilerut: do you want to try a script i wrote once?14:37
EriC^^its supposed to get all those packages and remove them from a de you want to remove completely14:38
badbodhso if you selected xubuntu-desktop package, the package itself does nothing but brings xfce4-packages and a few other apps.14:38
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Smilerutwell alright14:38
badbodhlike an agent or middleman.14:38
AppAraathi, I want to download and install a package on an offline computer. The machine with Internet is 12.04 but the offline machine is 14.04 - what is the best method to go about doing this, can I use apt / aptitude?14:39
Smilerutso right now it's using the...xubuntu greeter things, right?14:39
badbodhto remove xubuntu, you need to remove individual xfce4-things using synaptic.14:39
Smilerutall I want is to change the xubuntu greeting things to kubuntu greeting things14:39
Smilerutnothing else14:39
EriC^^Smilerut: then follow cfhowlett 's advice14:39
badbodhthe lightdm greeter is trickier, just install/remove doesn't alter it.14:39
badbodhyou also need to edit lightdm.conf14:40
EriC^^Smilerut: type cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf14:40
EriC^^what does it say next to greeter-session14:40
cfhowlettcat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf14:40
badbodhthis manjaro wiki page explains how, just replace relevant entry > https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Install_Display_Managers#LightDM14:41
Smilerutno such file or directory.14:41
CB6Man some of the idiosyncrasies of Linux are all kinds of dumb. I can't believe I'm reading a tutorial to open another instance of VLC lol14:41
badbodhgreeter-session=lightdm-kde-greeter <~ do that14:41
Smilerutit's not there it seems.14:41
badbodho.0woops, gotta be elsewhere then14:42
badbodhopen synaptic, search lightdm and see properties>files installed.14:42
Smilerutbadbodh: alright, looking at that14:43
Smilerutit's um14:43
Smilerut/etc/init/lightdm.conf14:43
Smilerutis this what I'm looking for?14:44
badbodhok. share the contents on dpaste.com and share the link here.14:44
Smilerutno I mean14:44
Smilerutis this the right file?14:44
badbodhthat's why we wanna have a look.14:44
badbodhpaste its contents on dpaste14:45
MonkeyDustCB6  in VLC : tools > preferences > interface ... scroll down ... uncheck 'allow one instance'14:45
EriC^^nah that's not it14:45
EriC^^Smilerut: it isn't there sometimes unless you use auto-login or so14:46
CB6Monkeydust oddly it's not checked.14:46
EriC^^Smilerut: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm14:46
CB6"Use only instance when starting from filemanager" What about when clicking the toolbar on the left?14:47
Smilerutthis is what came up when using cat on that path14:47
Smileruthttp://pastebin.com/22j2UB0w14:47
EriC^^try the dpkg-re14:47
akik_had to remove my wallet configuration .config/kwalletrc, .local/share/kwalletd and .kde/share/apps/kwallet. then next login recreated the wallet for me14:48
badbodhCB6: clicking the desktop/toolbar icon will start new instance, but opening multiple files on nautilus will open just one - in theory, but it doesn't always happen. bugs.14:48
SmilerutEriC^^: er14:48
Smilerutit doesn't look like anything happened.14:49
CB6VLC when clicking the middle button does with other programs but doesn't appear to with VLC which is why I wonder what "File Manager" actually covers.14:49
cfhowlettSmilerut, reboo14:49
Smilerutokay14:49
akik_sorry wrong channel14:49
ioriaSmilerut, i 'suppose' you can create one .. like xorg.cong, or is 50-ubuntu.conf14:50
ironmcEvery once in a while when I open my old Latitude d610 w/14.04 LTS the wireless is not  working.  Says my hotspot is "out of range" and shows no other networks.  thx in advance14:50
badbodhSmilerut: nope, that's not the config file. keep looking. what are the contents in /etc/lightdm. also look on /usr/local/share/lightdm if such a folder exists.14:51
nanborkanyone using Arc theme user's?14:51
badbodhfind anything that says "conf" :D14:51
Smilerutokay14:52
Smilerutstill the xubuntu stuff14:52
EriC^^Smilerut: type pastebinit /var/log/apt/history.log14:52
badbodhthat's why i love mint-dm, easy-peasy to changing a theme.14:52
EriC^^when did you install xubuntu-desktop?14:52
SmilerutEriC^^: earlier today14:53
EriC^^ok good14:53
nanborkis it possible to apply custom icon for a particular file format?14:53
Smileruthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11942273/14:53
badbodhnanbork: it is, but very dirty method.14:54
CB6Do you actually need a cron job to run auto updates lol?14:54
EriC^^Smilerut: try sudo apt-get purge xubuntu-desktop14:54
EriC^^Smilerut: it might be cause it still has configuration files14:54
EriC^^now i remember there was a file for lightdm in a .d14:55
SmilerutPackage 'xubuntu-desktop' is not installed, so not removed14:55
SmilerutThe following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   linux-headers-3.13.0-32 linux-headers-3.13.0-32-generic   linux-image-3.13.0-32-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-32-generic14:55
EriC^^/usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d14:55
ioriausually the extra packages are autoremoved at next upgrade ....14:55
EriC^^Smilerut: type pastebinit <(ls -l /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d)14:56
Smileruthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11942291/14:56
Skyriderfor ubuntu 14.04, is it normal for php to be 5.5.9?14:57
ioriayep14:57
EriC^^Smilerut: pastebinit /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-unity-greeter.conf14:57
EriC^^Smilerut: and pastebinit ....../60-lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf14:58
SkyriderI honestly expected it to be 5.614:58
badbodhaye aye, that's the list. now we are somewhere.14:58
SkyriderSeeing that is stable.14:58
Smileruthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11942298/14:58
EriC^^Smilerut: and the second one?14:59
Smileruthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11942306/14:59
k1lSkyrider: yes14:59
Skyridermeh.14:59
k1lSkyrider: its a LTS form 2014. so dont mix wishes with reality14:59
badbodhEriC^^: an update-alternative command perhaps ? take a look in /etc/alternatives14:59
EriC^^Smilerut: ok, type sudo cp /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/{50,99}-unity-greeter.conf15:00
EriC^^Smilerut: and then sudo nano /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/99-unity-greeter.conf15:00
EriC^^and put what badbodh said15:00
k1lSkyrider: and btw: the last update there is from 2.07.2015: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/p/php5/php5_5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.11/changelog15:01
Smilerutput what?15:01
Smilerutalso woah15:01
Smilerutthis nano thing15:01
k1lSkyrider: you know that for most packages and stable reasons ubuntu will not increase the version number?15:01
CB6https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates Is this what people are using for regular updates?15:01
badbodhlightdm-kde-greeter ?15:01
EriC^^badbodh: yeah?15:02
Smilerutalright15:02
SmilerutI replaced it15:02
Smilerutdo I need to uh15:02
Smilerutsave it or something15:02
CB6Seems to be a lot of alternatives https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/automatic-updates.html15:02
SmilerutI'm not familiar with this interface15:02
EriC^^Smilerut: yeah, press ctrl+o to save15:02
badbodhSmilerut: ctrl-o to write15:02
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Smilerutdid ctrl+o15:03
Smilerutthen pressed enter15:03
Smilerutis this ok15:03
badbodhyes15:03
Smilerutalright15:03
EriC^^press ctrl+x15:03
EriC^^then sudo service lightdm restart15:03
EriC^^it will disconnect you15:03
EriC^^so see ya on the other side15:03
Smilerutright15:03
badbodhmay the force be with you15:04
EriC^^haha15:04
CB6Is it a bad idea to do auto updates in Ubuntu?15:05
roottpanel wifi15:05
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EriC^^i'm starting to wonder if we broke his computer badbodh15:07
EriC^^haha :D15:07
badbodhi was hoping for a cleaner method like update-alternatives15:07
roott panel wifi sorunu15:07
EriC^^badbodh: i dont know if there is, one time another guy wanted to change the lubuntu lightdm and we ended up doing this15:08
EriC^^worked well for him, i think xubuntu adds it and then it forgets to remove it15:08
EriC^^or if he used purge first instead of remove it would have removed the last 50-script15:08
badbodhEriC^^: you basically forced the unity's greetr to invoke kde greeter. that's more like hack-ish15:10
EriC^^an op here had suggested to remove it from there, so i think it's fine15:10
EriC^^badbodh: nah, that's the config file it reads anyways15:10
EriC^^it had the 50- that had unity-greeter, and xubuntu must have added the later 60-lightdm script that had the same line except with the xubuntu lightdm15:11
badbodhok. but out of curiosity, do check /ec/alternatives directory. anything that says "lightdm" ?15:11
badbodh*etc15:11
EriC^^nope15:11
badbodhpity. and that cp command {50-99} what does curly bracket do ?15:12
EriC^^i mean there's nothing in /etc/alternatives with lightdm15:12
EriC^^badbodh: it makes a copy of the file, but the new copy has 99- instead of 50-15:13
EriC^^it's so it gets read last15:13
EriC^^by lightdm15:13
badbodhok. in theory the changes we suggested shouldn't break imo :D15:13
badbodhlet's hope it works15:13
EriC^^nope15:13
badbodhman i hate lightdm, so complex just to change the way it looks. i'd rather have ubuntu use mint's display manager.15:14
KnightsOfNiWhy is this not working? /etc/vlc/vlc - but when I go to /etc/vlc and then run vlc it is working15:15
MonkeyDustbadbodh  i guess you *can* install mdm15:15
KnightsOfNican this be done in 1 command?15:15
EriC^^KnightsOfNi: cause that's not the same file you're running by typing vlc anywhere15:16
EriC^^KnightsOfNi: type type vlc15:16
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MonkeyDustKnightsOfNi  to get an idea of the linux file structure: type     which vlc15:19
KnightsOfNioh it's in the usr bin15:19
KnightsOfNiit's a symlink then?15:19
badbodhperhaps not, all executables go to /usr/bin or /usr/sbin15:20
badbodhfiles aren';t installed in a single folder, unlike windows15:20
EriC^^type ls -l /etc/vlc/vlc15:20
badbodhetc will most likely contain the default/global configs15:21
badbodhdata files go to /usr/share15:21
KnightsOfNiI want to add to crontab something like this: @reboot /usr/bin/vlc --config /etc/vlc/somefile.txt15:22
Smilerutso um15:22
Smilerutafter I did the thing15:22
badbodhwow, what does that do ?15:22
Smilerutit took me to a screen15:22
Smilerutand it got stuck15:22
badbodhyay! you are back!15:22
Smilerutkept saying something about it getting frozen or stuck or something15:23
KnightsOfNiso if i go to the bin dir i can run the program15:23
Smilerutso uh15:23
KnightsOfNibut typing /usr/bin/vlc still doesnt work15:23
SmilerutI shut it down forcefully15:23
Smilerutand then started it again15:23
badbodhnice!15:23
Smilerutand now um15:23
SmilerutI have the Kubuntu login screen15:23
Smilerutbut not the kubuntu LOADING screen15:23
SmilerutI guess that's fine though15:23
CB6Does gedit typically allow the saving of 50unattended-upgrades ?15:24
badbodhoh, loading sceen comes from plymouth15:24
SmilerutI wouldn't want to mess with it anymore15:24
Smilerutbadbodh: oh, can I change that?15:24
CB6I seem to recall there's a protocol to follow when editing certain folder files to get them to save.15:24
badbodhSmilerut: you need to sudo update-alternatives --config <something plymouth blah blah>15:24
badbodhlemme check exact command15:24
badbodhmeanwhile open synaptic and see if you have kubuntu's plymouth theme installed15:25
badbodhjust search "plymouth theme"15:25
CB6hmm it comes to a permissions for this. Is there a gedit root edit equivalent?15:25
cfhowlettsudo gedit15:26
badbodhEriC^^: he's alive. you did it!15:26
CB6ty15:26
Smilerutbadbodh: um15:26
Smilerutbadbodh: nothing comes up when I search for that15:26
ioria!info gksu15:26
ubottugksu (source: gksu): graphical front-end to su and sudo. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-9ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 50 kB, installed size 456 kB15:26
Rave1should be gksudo gedit<<15:27
Smilerutbadbodh: yeah, nothing comes up for polymouth15:28
badbodhpoly ? i said ply15:28
Smilerutoh15:28
cfhowlettSmilerut, plymouth is no longer present in ubuntu >>> lightdm is the new manager15:28
badbodhcfhowlett: what about boot splash ?15:28
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badbodhthe animated logo before login-screen fires up15:29
SmilerutI can see both plymouth-theme-kubuntu AND plymouth-theme-xubuntu15:29
Smilerutand plymouth-theme-ubuntu15:29
CB6This script looks a lot like CSS and can be pulled by CSS. What language are these files written in? Is this bash?15:29
CB6can be pulled by cron***15:29
Smilerutbadbodh: I can see all of them D:15:30
badbodhSmilerut: run "sudo update-alternatives --list default.plymouth" what does it show ?15:31
Smilerut/lib/plymouth/themes/kubuntu-logo/kubuntu-logo.plymouth /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ubuntu-logo-scale-2.plymouth /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ubuntu-logo.plymouth /lib/plymouth/themes/xubuntu-logo/xubuntu-logo.plymouth15:32
Smilerutbadbodh: ^15:32
badbodhSmilerut: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth15:32
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badbodhenter choice, you wanted kubuntu right ?15:33
Smilerutyes15:33
Smilerutdone.15:34
Smilerutwell let's see if it worked15:34
badbodhreboot and give a hug15:34
KnightsOfNii keep setting the nameservers in resolv.conf to the google dns, but each time I reboot it's reset back to the old one :s15:34
KnightsOfNihow can that be?15:34
superjuuserihttp://pastebin.com/xz3nZQ8m15:35
superjuuserican anyone tell me how to fix this?15:35
badbodhKnightsOfNi: dhcp ? check network-manager15:35
KnightsOfNiwhat do y ou mean?15:36
badbodhyou want to change your dns server right /15:36
KnightsOfNiyea15:36
Smilerutalright15:36
badbodhgo to control center>network> click the button for advanced settings15:36
Smilerutbadbodh: this is interesting.15:36
Smilerutwhen I exit, the logo is Kubuntu15:37
Smilerutwhen I boot, however, it's xubuntu15:37
badbodheh? that's annoying15:37
Smilerutsomething is wrong with this world15:37
badbodhi wouldn't know, i use mint :)15:37
Smilerutheh15:37
Smilerutmint looks alright15:38
k1lSmilerut: what desktop is installed?15:38
Smilerutk1l: the OS itself is Ubuntu. I installed Xubuntu, then removed it, then installed Kubuntu15:38
Smilerutxubuntu desktop I mean15:39
Smilerutand kubuntu desktop, too15:39
k1lSmilerut: ok. so there is the reason for the mix15:39
MonkeyDustSmilerut  try this    sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth;sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm15:39
badbodhSmilerut: ok try this, run "sudo plymouth-set-default-theme --list|pastebinit"15:39
badbodhMonkeyDust: please, he just dealt with lightdm. leave it alone :P15:39
badbodhi don't think reconfigure does anything to theme15:40
Smilerutsudo plymouth-set-default-theme --list|pastebinit15:40
Smileruter15:40
badbodhin the terminal15:40
Smilerutunknown command15:40
trerothahah15:40
badbodhok15:40
k1linstall pastebinit first15:40
badbodhhe has pastebinit.15:41
SmilerutI do.15:41
badbodhthe command was from jessie. Smilerut back to the old command, " sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth" again15:41
badbodhenter choice15:41
Smileruter15:42
Smilerutthere's a kubuntu auto mode and a kubuntu manual mode15:42
Smilerutmanual mode is selected.15:42
badbodhok. select it again15:43
Smilerutdone15:43
badbodhnow try "sudo update-initramfs -u"15:43
Smilerutand now we wait15:44
badbodhso, you um and er a lot, you a girl ? below 20 ?15:44
LDHi any IT person that can help me?15:44
xangua!ask15:45
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:45
badbodhwe don't do IT stuff. got ubuntu , just ask.15:45
Smilerutbadbodh: I'm sorry mate15:45
Smilerutbadbodh: you're not getting a date :/15:45
SmilerutI'm a guy15:45
LDHaha ok. anyway15:45
AEL-Hplot twist15:45
badbodhthen stop umming and erring, it's irksome if you're not a little girl >:(15:45
Smilerutbadbodh: ummm okay15:46
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Smilerutbadbodh: heh15:46
Smilerutbadbodh: I do it out of habit15:46
AEL-HCan anyone here give me a hand with wget? I am having some trouble getting it to authenticate properly15:46
Smilerutbadbodh: anyway I ran the command15:46
badbodhis it done ? shutdown and boot again15:47
Smilerutokay15:47
badbodhnot reboot, shutdown15:47
pauljwAEL-H, what do you mean by authenticate, what's it telling you?15:48
__thuginc__hi all is there  any thang like mdm for ubuntu 15.04 ?15:48
LDDo you know how I can prevent xubuntu to sleep/turn off the screen when watching a video (youtube/vimeo/etc)  or hearing an audio streaming (soundcloud)? I already tried installing Caffeine but it did not work15:49
Smilerutsuccess!15:49
SmilerutRejoice!15:49
badbodhLD: really depends on what media player you are using, and does it have sleep-inhibit15:49
Smilerutbadbodh: thanks man15:49
badbodhSmilerut: you can pay for services via paypal. your final bill is $1045665450.6915:50
Smileruto15:50
Smilerutok15:50
LDI am using firefox, not any media player.15:51
Smileruthow about a respectful nod instead15:51
* Smilerut respectfully nods to badbodh15:51
badbodhlol15:51
badbodhhave fun. ciao.15:51
badbodhLD: best you can do is change your sleep time to 6-12 hours15:51
pauljwAEL-H, you need to keep the question out here, not PMing me.  I don't necessarily have answers and no one else can help if they don't see your question.15:52
CB6tv = big monitors and lots of noise for computer operations. If my computer made that much noise when I used it I would go crazy.15:52
Guzahi, i cant install php515:52
badbodhor voo-doo your mouse to keep moving15:52
Guzahere my pastebin15:52
Guzahttp://pastebin.com/rcTGsrWT15:52
AEL-HSo I am basically attempting to mirror my university website so that I can access all of my materials before they are removed before the start of the next semester. When I run the command it downloads the entire portion of the website that is available to users not logged in. The command itself runs fine15:53
LDYes, but that is not what I really want, since it's very nice that the sleep time keeps for 5 mins15:53
Guzacan someone help me pls15:53
badbodhyou want it to sleep it will sleep. it isn't a 5 month old baby LD .15:53
tewardGuza: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install -f15:54
tewardGuza: if it still fails, provide that error output.  but use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ instead15:54
k1lGuza: you have PPAs enabled?15:54
teward(pastebin is filled with ads and javascript)15:54
tewardalso what k1l said15:54
Guzateward: i was trying to make my own repo15:54
EriC^^Smilerut: cool, thought you weren't going to make it15:55
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Guzaand i follow tutorial, download all files and all work exept php515:55
LDYes, but since I prefer to get the computer to sleep when I'm not using since it's a waste of resources. So getting the computer to sleep in 6 hours later it's not my cup of tea.15:55
badbodhLD: sleep-inhibit is application specific feature, look into preferences, about:config. if you find nothing, setting reasonable sleep-time is your only option15:55
Guzai have all that files on my reposite15:56
AppAraathello everyone. Is there a tool like FEBE (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/febe/) but for Chromium?15:56
tewardAppAraat: you'd have to search the Chromium plugins (I think that's just the google chrome addons store?) to try and find one15:57
__thuginc__is there any way to chang the  them of the login scren in ubuntu 15.04 ?15:57
badbodhEriC^^: ^^ eyes on __thuginc__ :D15:58
tewardAppAraat: this may be of use to you though, this article: http://techdows.com/2010/07/how-to-backup-and-restore-google-chrome-extensions.html15:58
AppAraatteward: thanks, but most of those extensions look super shady lol15:59
SmilerutEriC^^: the command that you told me to type it15:59
Smilerutit kinda froze stuff15:59
SmilerutI mean, it did close, initially, but then it got stuck15:59
EriC^^Smilerut: it fixed the login screen though right?16:00
Smilerutyes16:00
tewardAppAraat: well, then you're a little out of luck - I know of no other plugin that does what FEBE does.  Although you could just make a complete copy of your Chromium profile...16:00
Smilerutyes it did16:00
tewardAppAraat: which is basically the same thing, and then do that 'copying' regularly16:00
EriC^^Smilerut: you can press ctrl+alt+f1 then ctrl+alt+del to restart16:00
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Smileruthmm16:01
EriC^^!reisub16:01
ubottuIn an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key16:01
AppAraatteward: yeah like sending diffs and stuff. True. It's the safest method I guess.16:01
SmilerutKubuntu theme shows up as installed but I can't select it16:01
Smilerutfor some reason16:01
Smileruter16:01
SmilerutKDE theme16:01
SmilerutPlasma theme, really16:01
tewardAppAraat: I wouldn't trust any backing up to any plugins, no, i'd just set up a cronjob to copy the data i want to save to a backup location once a week or such.16:01
tewardor once every 7 days or such16:01
AppAraatyeah you're absolutely right.16:02
PotatoHead0077Hello. Where can I get help with installing ffmpeg when I get an error about unmet dependencies.16:02
badbodhEriC^^ , Smilerut  restarting display manager service when logged-in will end the current session, hence freeze. reboot is the recommended method.16:02
badbodhrestarting a service had nothing to do with the theme change16:03
Smilerutoh, it turns out I have Plasma 4, not five16:03
SmilerutI wonder how I can update16:03
EriC^^badbodh: it should have just restarted the display manager and load the new login screen cause of the script he edited, dunno why it froze it usually doesn't16:03
PotatoHead0077Hello. Where can I get help with installing ffmpeg when I get an error about unmet dependencies?16:03
badbodhalternatively you can log-out, switch to tty shell, restart service, switch back to GUI16:03
k1l!details | PotatoHead007716:03
ubottuPotatoHead0077: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)16:03
k1lPotatoHead0077: and repeating gets annoying, and is not motivating people to help more.16:04
PotatoHead0077Yea sorry16:04
PotatoHead0077I'm just a bit stressed because I need it soon. Will do pastebin16:04
badbodh!pastebin badbodh16:05
MonkeyDustPotatoHead0077  try avconv16:05
pauljw    AEL-H , sorry that I can't help, you're obviously more advanced than me.  Seems to me that if there is no error returned by wget, then it's either a permission issue or a user error ie wrong path or wrong option.  Hope someone more knowledgeable will chime in...16:06
PotatoHead0077I will try that. http://pastebin.com/QYUWyiWy16:06
easyOnMehas anyone here been using filezilla for your web server dev and admin16:07
easyOnMeplease tell me I have some questions16:07
badbodhAEL-H: why not rsync ?16:07
k1leasyOnMe: maybe you want to look if you can find their channel to talk to the specialists?16:08
AEL-HI am a big noob, I will look up rsync16:08
easyOnMek1l: have you used it before16:08
k1leasyOnMe: no. but that was not part of my answer to you.16:09
badbodheasyOnMe: keep your questions ubuntu-centric. thank you.16:09
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easyOnMebadbodh: ok no problemo16:10
easyOnMethanks16:10
badbodhthan you for understanding :)16:10
badbodh*thank16:10
easyOnMek1l: thanks for reminding about the channel I manage to find it kudos man :)16:10
kudosnp16:10
badbodhkudos: you using dos in kubuntu ?16:11
AEL-HTo quickly summarise, what advantages would rsync have over wget?16:11
kudosyes16:11
badbodhwine ?16:11
kudossure16:12
Smilerutalright so16:12
Smileruthow can I change window colors?16:12
SmilerutI mean I got a dark theme that makes a lot of things the way I want them to me16:12
Smilerutto be*16:12
Smilerutbut the applications themselves are gray, not black16:12
Smilerutand they stick out16:13
Smileruthow can I change this16:13
Smilerut(using KDE)16:13
badbodhAEL-H: rsync can also handle your usual copy-paste activities. reliable for large/numerous files, resumes if interrupted. can also verify checksum.16:13
badbodhit copies hard-drive to hard-drive, as well as hard-drive to netwrok and back16:13
badbodhgrsync and gtk-rsync are gui if you need one16:14
AEL-HI feel the -m setting on wget covers does exactly what I need, the only problem appears to be giving the command a way to authenticate on my university portal to give it access to the proper files which I think would also prevent me from using rsync in the same way.16:14
badbodhcheck rsync documentation, it has tricks up its sleeve16:14
AEL-HI will attempt to do the same thing on rsync in the meantime16:15
badbodhSmilerut: screenshots please.16:16
Smilerutbadbodh: alright16:16
badbodhkudos to you kudos :)16:16
synergy_I'm a little confused on how partitions work. How can I have a / partition and a /boot partition if /boot is located on the root directory?16:19
Smileruthttp://i.imgur.com/1aXhXwY.png badbodh16:19
Smilerutyou see what I mean?16:19
Smilerutthe window for Konversation is gray16:19
badbodhsynergy_: nope, they appear to be on /, but /boot , /home, /tmp all can be in different partitions if you set it up that way16:20
ioriasynergy_, or you installed a separated partition  for /boot or you are uefi16:20
badbodhSmilerut: in systemsettings go to appearance> color. change your color scheme to something dark, like 'krita'.16:22
badbodhyou can choose individual colors in the same module.16:22
synergy_badbodh: So in this picture here from tldp: http://tldp.net/LDP/intro-linux/html/images/FS-layout.png; boot, temp, and home would actually be on the same level as / instead of sub branches thereof?16:22
Smileruthahaha16:23
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Coastthere's a scheme called "Obsidian Coast"16:23
CoastCoast is my preferred username everywhere16:23
MonkeyDustsynergy_  is this useful http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/09/linux-file-system-structure/16:23
badbodhsynergy_: no. / will be always at the top. everything else under it, including mount-point for other disks. that /boot you see is a mount point.16:24
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badbodhit's actually a separate partition. windows would have shown it as separate D-drive,say16:24
MonkeyDustactually, a root is in the ground, everything else "grows" out of it16:24
Coastmoew16:25
badbodhand then the monkey climbs on whatever grows out16:25
badbodh:P16:25
synergy_badbodh: Hehe16:25
Coast.16:26
synergy_badbodh: So they're mount points. I still don't understand the directory structure then. /boot (if a seperate partition) does not actually live under / ?16:26
CB6Anyone remember how to remove hexchat's user leave/join display from the screen lol?16:26
badbodhto a layman (like me) linux doesn't differentiate among disks and partitions, and treats them as a single unified filesystem16:26
cfhowlett!quietirc | CB616:26
ubottuCB6: To ignore joins/parts/quits in your favorite IRC client, see http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages16:26
Coastbut um16:27
Coastnow I have another problem16:27
CB6ty16:27
k1lCoast: keep it ubuntu support only in here please. #ubuntu-offtopic for chat16:27
Coasthttp://i.imgur.com/1aXhXwY.png  <-- my screen res is 1366 x 76816:27
verses_i tried researching on some this error and still havent got a clue as to why cant copy an iso file.16:27
EriC^^synergy_: the filesystem is mounted under the /boot dir16:27
verses_the file was 8gb and it copied only 4gb of it16:27
EriC^^synergy_: if you unmount the filesystem, you'd have an empty /boot dir16:27
Coastbut the screenshot is 2390 x 76816:28
Coastand I notice that if I go to the right with my cursor, it keeps going16:28
k1lCoast: that is 2 desktops16:28
Coastk1l: how can I fix this16:28
synergy_Oh, so a separate partition is mounted in a subdirectory of /, but it doesn't actually reside there itself16:28
k1lCoast: see the driver settings for video16:28
badbodhsynergy_: nope. even if you format root, that subdirectory will be unharmed.16:29
badbodhall files intact16:29
EriC^^synergy_: the "/" itself is just a filesystem with a bunch of dirs and files, some empty where you can mount other filesystems on other disks even16:30
synergy_badbodh: I think that's what I'm saying(?) While /home is a subdirectory of /, that directory has a mount point to its respective partition. Is that right?16:31
Coastk1l: er16:31
Coastk1l: how would I do that16:31
Coastah there we go16:32
Coastfixed.16:32
MonkeyDustsynergy_  in a terminal, type   lsblk     <-- are you familiar with that?16:32
badbodhsynergy_: grammar first : ...that directory -is- a mount point....That being said, yes :)16:32
synergy_badbodh: Ok, I wasn't sure of the terminology. I thought saying "is" would be incorrect.16:32
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badbodhbtw you may wanna change your nick, synergy is an op in debian channels, very rude to duplicate op nicks16:33
synergy_MonkeyDust: Yea, I'm setting up a new system from scratch in a virtual machine, so sda is empty right now16:33
synergy_badbodh: I hadn't known.16:33
badbodhwell, that's what we are here for :)16:34
synergy_badbodh: Hmm, ok. Thanks for the help :)16:34
badbodhwhen you joined you were told by nickserv this nick was taken, then you added an underscore ;)16:35
EriC^^actually his client automatically did that16:35
CB6* subhojit777 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) these kind of messages are what I want to go lol16:36
EriC^^who cares though use whatever you want, free speech and all16:36
synergy_badbodh: No, this is a verified account with a password16:36
synergy_It's the one I always used16:36
badbodh:O16:36
badbodhnvm. you get the idea about /boot?16:36
synergy_I understand. I drew myself a picture to clear things up more16:37
verses_hey, have you guys experienced - cannot slice the file - issue? i cant seem to copy a file of 8gb16:37
verses_its an iso file16:37
EriC^^verses_: copy where?16:37
verses_to my harddrive16:37
verses_thought theres something wrong with the ntfs drive and then switched to ext3, but the same issue persisted16:38
verses_i found a link 2 days back but there was no fix16:38
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EriC^^oh ok16:39
badbodhverses_: maybe try ext4, xfs, zfs ? zfs is nice.16:41
Bashing-omverses_: fat32 filse system at play here ?16:41
badbodhext3 he says16:41
badbodhif i recall ext3 has way bigger filesize limit, not a paltry 8gb. right ?16:42
Bashing-ombadbodh: Not real sure, seems journaled file system was introduced in ext4 ??16:42
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badbodhverses_: you can try two things. check how much space remains. or fsck your drive. if not, change to ext4/xfs etc. they are latest and greatest.16:43
verses_change with my data intact?16:43
badbodhno i'm afraid :(16:44
verses_i have a huge empty space16:44
verses_oh16:44
badbodhlemme check if filesystem can be converted without removing data. but i doubt it.16:44
verses_what could be wrong with copying on ntfs?16:44
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verses_thought it has something with the OS capability to copy16:44
k1lverses_: "df -h" tells you the spaces16:45
CB6http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/12/how-to-stream-videos-from-computer-to.html these doesn't seem very secure to me lol16:45
CB6this*16:45
k1lverses_: you cant run ntfs as system partition on linux. but you can use it as a data partition, its only slower than the other native linux filesystems16:45
verses_i was just copying the data.16:46
verses_an iso file16:46
k1lwhat exact error is it?16:46
k1land from where to where to you copy?16:46
badbodhverses_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ConvertFilesystemToExt416:46
badbodhskip step 3 since it is an external drive16:46
badbodhno need to mess with grub. you just disconnect,reboot,connect16:47
verses_well, i dont remember the error. i was copying an iso file from flash drive to hard drive.16:47
badbodhoh, then you need to use step316:47
badbodh8gb on flash drive though? how ?16:48
fontisdoes anyone here use Ubuntu Gnome edition? If so, you guys got any problems when updating to latest gnome via the PPA?16:48
badbodhi struggle to hammer in 4 gb iso16:48
k1lverses_: we need way more details. as such even ext3 works. so there must be something wrong. be we dont know without the details16:48
badbodhfontis: ppa=trouble, why would you do that? you a developer or something? stick to ubuntu repositories16:48
compdocyou must use a tiny hammer16:49
cfochhello. I would like to be a volunteer in the UbuCon Latinoamerica. What can I do?16:49
cfhowlettcfoch, wrong place to ask.  find your loco or local linux user group16:50
verses_k1l, one more thing, is it any good to switch to 64 bit os from 32 which i am currently using?16:50
badbodhwe have no idea what that is. go to ubuntu's local channel in your country16:50
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k1lverses_: there is no reason to use 32bit OS today (except your cpu is 32bit only)16:50
badbodhunless you have 4+ gb ram, 64 bit doesn't make sense. it will only slow you down16:51
AvatarAbadbodh, I disagree and Gnome PPA's are worth it because Gnome evolves fast and later versions have a lot of new and useful stuff16:51
badbodhfor 2gb ram 32 bit better.16:51
k1lcfoch: better try #ubuntu-ubuconla16:51
k1lbadbodh: that is not true16:51
AEL-HSorry noob here, I don't see the significance of ram when it comes to difference between 32 and 64 bit16:52
cfochnobody is there in #ubuntu-ubuconla16:52
Igoreis someboby french here?16:52
cfhowlett!fr | Igore16:52
ubottuIgore: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.16:52
k1lbadbodh: that idea is based on the fact that 32bit could not work with more than 4GB ram, so it was "use 32bit for less then 4gb".16:52
badbodhAvatarA: yes, but ppas do not play well with ubuntu's own packages. you will see conflicts etc. ubuntu doesn't evolve as fast.16:52
bekksAEL-H: Because there is no significance :)16:53
cfochI don't know if is okay to chat in french. Do it in english :)16:53
cfochor go to #ubuntu-fr Igole16:53
cfochIgore16:53
AvatarAIt doesn't play well even with Gnome from its own repositories :)16:53
AEL-HWhy would a 32 bit system not be able to work with more than 4gb ram?16:53
cfochis there a channel #ubuntu sudaerica or something like that?16:53
badbodhk1l: not really, i have used 64 bit os when i has 2 gb ram, somehow 64bit os eats more ram. like ~600mb on 32 bit, 1 gb on 64bit.16:53
cfochsouthamerica16:53
cfochor latinoamerica16:53
badbodhsame apps open, similar consitions16:54
badbodh*conditions16:54
akika 32-bit system can work with more than 4GiB, the limits are per process16:54
MiarHi, I am clearly connected to a wired network according to ubuntu, but the internet doesn't seem to be working. Could anybody help me out?16:54
MiarAlso unable to connect to my wifi16:54
cfhowlettcfoch, go offline to the local ubuntu group for your country. there is a wiki.16:54
verses_akik, how?16:55
cfochI was chatting with Michael Garrido, but he told me he is not organizing16:55
cfochthe UbuConLa16:55
cfhowlettcfoch, you're in the wrong channel.  ask #ubuntu-offtopic16:56
akikverses: i think the term was bigmem kernel16:56
badbodhakik: have you used 32 bit os on a system with 8 gb ram? how much memory is available in system-monitor or when you run "free"?16:56
akikbadbodh: yes i did it in 2006 with a 12 GiB host and opensuse16:57
badbodhthe limit is 4gb if i recall. 3,5gb for windows.16:57
badbodhyou should run 'free' in terminal and see if free ram is 11gb or just 2 gb :D16:57
AvatarAPAE enables you to use more than 4 Gigs even on 32 bit16:58
lickalott_hey all!  trying to set my xinput values for my touchpad (too sensitive) and no matter what I do, it resets on boot.  I have created an .xsessionrc file.  I've made values.16:58
lickalott_any ideas?16:58
AvatarADon't know how Windoze handles it though, saw it being limited to 3.5 on Win716:59
Bashing-omMiar: Are you using a GUI 'network-manager' ?16:59
MiarBashing-om Yes16:59
akikAvatarA: there was a /PAE switch for windows boot loader16:59
badbodhwell pae-kernel is another thing. then it's possible.16:59
AvatarAI think it was a "commercial limit" though17:00
AvatarAWith basic edition or something more cheapo17:00
Bashing-omMiar: Sorry, Will have to await others advise, I have not used a 'network-manager" in ages .17:00
AvatarAAnd Pro allowed you to use all RAM17:01
badbodhlickalott_: create a file.sh (a shell script) and add it to startup17:01
MiarBashing-om Thanks anyway :) I have another problem if you could please help : When I launch Kubuntu in KDE mode, it hangs after around 2 minutes of usage. And when I launch it in Unity or Gnome, it says System error on startup 2-3 times17:01
lickalott_I thought i did that, but maybe I missed a step....   I made a file in init.d and created the softlink to rc2.d.  Inside the file were my xinput values.17:02
badbodhMiar: you are in a lot of soup. let's take it one thing at a time.17:02
MiarHaha okay17:02
badbodhlickalott_: nope don't do that. just create a .sh file in your home folder, add it to "startup applications"17:03
badbodhwhy you so intrusive, do things cleanly17:03
lickalott_ahhh copy17:03
Luy1nHi, I tried to download a lot of youtube videos with youtube-dl. I get a lot of warnings that avconv is outdated, and then it exits with "ERROR: audio conversion failed: Or use the non experimental encoder 'libvo_aacenc'." I don't find information on how to update avconv; do I have to build it from source?17:03
badbodhMiar: have you any third party ppa-s added to software sources ?17:03
badbodhand when your problem started, what were you up o? any insta;;/remove/edit you recall?17:04
badbodh*up o /up to17:04
cfhowlettLuy1n, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should upgrade all currently installed packages17:05
Luy1nmy warnings and errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11942977/ my config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11942983/ my command: youtube-dl -a ~/tmpyoutubelinks -o "~/%(title)s.%(ext)s" 2>~/youtube-dl.errors17:06
Luy1ncfhowlett: I did it, but don't get any packages that could be updated.17:07
Miarbadbodh : Nope17:07
badbodhlickalott_: http://dpaste.com/03HZCWT > write something like this. save as <name>.sh, allow execute, add to startup, kill kitten, burn your family, marry justin beiber. logout/login to verify17:07
lickalott_copy.  I got it squared away.  thanks badbodh !!17:08
Bashing-omMiar: Is unity the default/initial Desktop Environment ? ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ' If so maybe will restore ?17:08
AvatarALuy1n, do you have libavcodec-extra installed?17:09
Luy1nBashing-om: your command hasn't got anything to do with Unity.17:09
badbodhreally lickalott_ ? all the steps i just mentioned?17:09
Luy1nAvatarA: nope. should I install it?17:09
lickalott_trying to figure out what the values actually mean for the "synaptics finger" now.  it still seems a lil sensitive (i.e. as I'm typing the line gets highlighted or my cursor moves and I am typing somewhere I shouldn't17:09
MiarBashing-om : I have tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm . Does nothing to the problems I have been having17:10
badbodhlickalott_: don't alter all the vlaues. just the ones i mentioned in paste17:10
lickalott_kitten kill - check.  burn family - check.  Marry JB - not so much17:10
AvatarAtry it17:10
badbodhthat'll do17:10
Luy1nAvatarA: I installed libavcodec-extra, but the errors remain17:10
lickalott_badbodh, what will that do for me?17:11
badbodhMiar: something must have started your issue. try to recall, try harder. can't help without details.17:11
badbodhyou installed unity+gnome on kubuntu, something's off.17:12
Bashing-omMiar: Seems I recall one has to stop X first ' sudo service lightdm stop ' OR kdm if (k)ubuntu is the environment .17:12
badbodhthings don't happen magically, you've been up to a lot of activities Miar . tell us what you did before that, the whole history.17:13
Miarbadbodh : It was working fine for around 2-3 hours after I booted it. After which I tried to connect to my wifi and kde wallet popped up. That was the first time it froze. I then switched off the power button on my laptop and restarted it. Have been having the problem since.17:13
badbodhok so what did you do before those 2-3 hours ?17:13
badbodhinstall unity and gnome ?17:13
MiarI did not do anything. I installed a steam game - dota 2 and tested it out and then the above mentioned ^ . Nothing else has been done on Kubuntu.17:14
badbodhat what point did you install unity and gnome?17:14
MiarWell I had given my friend to dual boot my system for me. And he had installed unity and gnome on Kubuntu :\17:14
badbodhif i recall, unity and gnome don't co-exist very well.17:14
AvatarALuy1n, if libav-tools ?17:15
MiarHm. So should I remove Gnome?17:15
AvatarALuy1n, libav-tools ? (without the if :)17:15
badbodhwell, get back to your friend and punch his face. i think fresh-install will be more beneficial Miar .17:15
Luy1nAvatarA: libav-tools is installed17:15
badbodhthis time tell him to stick to kubuntu/kde and not add to many junk.17:16
badbodh*too many17:16
Luy1nAvatarA: Version: 6:9.18-0ubuntu0.14.04.117:16
Miarbadbodh : I thought I could trust him as he works for a a prestigious company in the US - Rhino Labs .17:17
badbodhMiar: if you can't install your os by yourself, you are a beginner and must stick to a single DE for learning and usage. when you get a hang of things you can try those geeky things like multiple DE's, dm's etc17:17
badbodhat best what he did to you was experimental. maybe he doesn't want you to bother him and taught you a lesson by installing tons of junk :D17:18
Miarbadbodh : I can install my OS by myself :P I had given it to him for some malware removal tasks on windows. But yes I am certainly a beginner.17:18
Miarbadbodh : So is there anyway to fix these issues without re-installing the entire thing ?17:18
AvatarAwhat's the version of your youtube-dl?17:19
AvatarAyoutube-dl --version17:19
badbodhthen format,re-install, stick to one DE for now. since you do not have all the info, we better not advise. half-knowledge is fatal17:20
CB6Do you guys have a favorite LAMP install guide that shows a relatively secure install?17:20
badbodhit's like removing the wrong kidney of a heart-transplant patient. (that makes no sense but you get the idea)17:20
MiarOkay thanks :) Ill be meeting a friend who works at Google ,London in a few days. Lets see if he can fix it for me :P Otherwise re-format :(17:21
Luy1nAvatarA: 2015.07.2117:21
Miarre-install*17:21
badbodhgood luck Miar17:22
AvatarAtry to export as wav and see if it works17:24
AvatarAotherwise you're stuck with compiling a newer version of the needed libraries17:24
iLogichey guys, i'm adding a ppa via add-apt-repository with no errors but it doesn't show when I apt-get update.. anyone had that problem?17:27
Luy1nI'll be gone for dinner now, can't delay. but staying in the channel. brb ~30 min17:27
bekksiLogic: what was the entire output of "add-apt-repository"?17:30
xanguawhat repository¿ what ubuntu release¿17:31
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phaazonhi!17:50
phaazonis there a place to find Ubuntu TUs?17:50
phaazonor whatever those guys are called17:50
phaazonI think I’ve found a weird bug with Ubuntu + OpenAL17:51
phaazonsee this: https://github.com/phaazon/al/issues/5#issuecomment-12502247017:51
AEL-HCould someone explain to me why copy and pasting a link into a firefox tab gives a different result to opening the same link from terminal which opens  it into firefox but handles it differently?17:53
cr45hCould you clarify a bit?17:54
dunnowhoiamI believe he means that firefox acts differently depending on how the url is opened.17:55
AEL-Hdunnowhoiam: Yes I think so17:56
AEL-HI am attempting to use wget to download a file from my university portal , I have loaded cookies onto it, I find by just typing that url into my browser, I get a different screen than when I open link in terminal -- but both open in firefox17:56
phaazonno one for my OpenAL issue?17:56
phaazonany other channel to seek help?17:57
nmatrix9join #krita17:58
phaazon#ubuntu-packaging sounds good17:58
MonkeyDustphaazon  i read here apen al is for music ... try #ubuntustudio17:58
akikAEL-H: you might look into changing the http user agent in wget17:58
MonkeyDustopen*17:58
brainwashphaazon: you can ask on the openal mailing list also17:59
phaazonMonkeyDust: it’s an issue with the .pc file17:59
phaazonI’m not sure #ubuntustudio would help me17:59
cfhowlettphaazon, #opensouremusicans17:59
cfhowlett#opensourcemusicians18:00
amberdic1eyhelp18:00
amberdic1eyoops sorry18:00
Smileruthow do I upgrade from plasma 4 to 5 ?18:01
Smileruton Ubuntu, that is18:01
AEL-Hakik: I am not sure what you mean18:03
akikAEL-H: i'm not sure if you meant that wget behaves differently than your web browser and if you're having a problem downloading with wget18:03
AEL-Hthe command "firefox URL" produces a different result than simply typing URL into the firefox bar at the top18:04
AEL-HOne of them brings up an "Access18:04
AEL-HOne of them brings up an "Access denied" whilst the other redirects me to the login page18:05
brainwashSmilerut: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=226910218:05
akikAEL-H: you could install httpfox or similar add-on which shows you all addresses that your web browser makes18:05
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AEL-HDo you know how I could pass in parameters such that wget authenticates and grabs the file? I have loaded in the correct cookies however instead of authenticating the command just gets stuck unable to download, I CTRL C out and then I find it has downloaded the "Access denied" page18:07
akikyou would need to figure out how the authentication works. you can add http headers to wget18:08
akikalso if it's http basic authentication there are --http-user and --http-password18:09
iamtoodumbhi. got a strange problem: i open bitmask --> open deluge/transmission --> for a few seconds download/upload speed is normal --> after some time it drops to 0 --> have to turn off/on bitmask again --> etc.... anyone has an idea?18:09
jcalonsoHi, I'm getting this error after executing apt-get upgrade in ubuntu 14.04: "libpython2.7 : Depends: libpython2.7-stdlib (= 2.7.6-8) but 2.7.6-8ubuntu0.2 is installed" Any ideas?18:09
iamtoodumbsudo apt-get install libpython2.7-stdlib18:10
AEL-Hakik: How can I tell what authentication method it is, I don't think it is simply http basic authentication18:10
JacobEdelmandoes anyone here have any idea how I would go about getting libgl1-mesa-dev:i386 on trusty? Install is saying the dependency mesa-common-dev:i386 is unmet.18:11
cfhowlettAEL-H, possible workaround.  start the download if ffox.  go to ffox downloads and copy the url.  wget -c theurl18:11
AEL-Hcfhowlett: thanks I will try that now18:11
JacobEdelmaniamtoodumb: would that work for my problem too?18:12
iamtoodumbtry18:12
JacobEdelmaniamtoodumb: okay, will do18:12
JacobEdelmanthanks18:12
JacobEdelmaninstall seems to be working18:12
JacobEdelmaniamtoodumb: success! Thanks a bunch!18:14
iamtoodumbsure. np18:14
paulooi18:15
paulohi18:15
AEL-Hcfhowlett: So did you mean to get ffox to download and then interupt that download and direct wget to that interupted file in place of url?18:17
cfhowlettAEL-H, no don't interrupt.  wget -c to the same download location.18:18
cfhowlettAEL-H, and if you do get interrupted, wget -c should allow you to restart18:18
anonymoushithere18:19
AEL-Hcfhowlett: I think I may have misunderstood, I downloaded the file from ffox -- no problems. I then ran the same command to the same url on wget, same problem18:24
naftilos76Hi, i am having issues with the so called "tearing effect" in ubuntu 14.04, latest mint rafaela, latest suse but not in ubuntu 15.04 (other graph issues exist there). So what is tearing effect after all? What i see on my lcd is a slight but fast movement of everything going from left to right or something like that. I can see the picture except that everything trembles just a little bit. Is that what tearing effect is? Also, have there been any solu18:34
naftilos76tions for this issue?18:34
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OerHeksnaftilos76, on what videocard?18:34
OerHeksin Terminal: lspci | grep VGA18:35
naftilos76GPU is Geforce 840M and intel. This is a hybrid graphics laptop.18:35
OerHeksnaftilos76, nice, but on which one? and intel version?18:36
Luy1nin case anybody listened to my discussion with AvatarA, downloading to WAV format seems to do the trick. I didn't have any errors so far. I will then use avconv to convert to mp3 so the car stereo can read it, since it can't read vorbis files.18:37
naftilos76Yes the exact same behavior on both18:37
MonkeyDust!info winff | Luy1n18:37
ubottuLuy1n: winff (source: winff): graphical video and audio batch converter using ffmpeg or avconv. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.5.3-4ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 113 kB, installed size 1493 kB18:37
Luy1nthanks MonkeyDust, but I prefer the CLI ;)18:38
naftilos76OerHeks, i just tried a live image and the same thing happened. I saw that nouveau was enabled but as i said it did not make any difference in kubuntu 14.04. No matter what i used (intel, nouveau, nvidia) the exact same artifact existed. Could it be solved via a xorg.conf option?18:40
naftilos76live image of mint rafaela18:40
OerHeksnaftilos76, i read a lot of issues with the 840m, no solutions.18:41
naftilos76ok thanks18:41
OerHekswell, mint has its own issues, but what happens with 15.04?18:41
naftilos76well i was mostly interested in 14.04 but 15.04 has a few things like: the whole lcd is rolling towards right or left for a few seconds and then stops18:43
naftilos76OerHeks18:43
Kali_Yugadoes Flash ever going to be fixed? cuz I still always have to click "Allow Now" ?18:44
naftilos76OerHeks, It is random too. During the boot down it may happen but also may not!18:44
naftilos76OerHeks, it is just annoying. It is a brand new laptop...18:45
squintyKali_Yuga,  try installing   flash-installer   to see if that resolves the problem18:45
Kali_YugaOkay I will try... U don't have to click allow now?18:46
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Kali_YugaUnable to locate package flash-installer18:46
SepLiteSorry to contribute more to the multitude of conversations going on simultaneously in this room, however could anyone help me force/change my combo jack to "line in" for my mic?18:47
OerHeksnaftilos76, maybe the 352 driver fixes thing, the 346 too but not optimal, from xorg-edgers ppa >> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa18:47
OerHeksKali_Yuga, enable multiverse repo first18:49
OerHeks!info flashplugin-installer18:50
ubottuflashplugin-installer (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 11.2.202.481ubuntu0.15.04.1 (vivid), package size 7 kB, installed size 137 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)18:50
naftilos76OerHeks, as i said it is a non-nvidia specific driver issue. I have tried 352 and i got a black screen without any strange installation instructions from tutos around the net. It has got to be something related with the syncs but i am not sure...18:50
naftilos76OerHeks, sorry it is not a nvidia-specific issue18:50
OerHeksnaftilos76, that ppa also gives newer xserver-xorg-video-intel, but you said it is on both, so you think it is not a driver issue ?18:52
mason15can anyone help me convert html files to epub in ubuntu18:52
kaligneHello I can connect to my computer from any other conneted o the internet using ssh by specifying my user name and inet address (ssh xxx.xxx.x.xx@myself). I was wondering, is that possible to connect to my computer using http? more precisely, is it possible to connect to my public_html from the internet, without dns bu with my mere inet address?18:53
MonkeyDustkaligne  that sounds like something for ##networking18:54
OerHekskaligne, yes with a lamp server18:55
iorianaftilos76, by a quick search on compiz -  tearing  seems that compiz could solve the issue ... but i can't say more .... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=139028418:55
OerHeks!lamp18:55
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.18:55
naftilos76OerHeks, i am sure because using 346 nvidia on 14.04 and 15.04 gives me a totally different behavior. On 14.04 i get the artifacts but not on the 15.04 (except for a few seconds during boot, loging out, loging in)18:55
naftilos76OerHeks, thanks for your time18:56
OerHeksioria, good one, worth a try18:56
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ioriaOerHeks, old thread ... :-(18:56
OerHeksioria, yes, but i read this before ""Sync To VBlank" to "enabled"¨18:57
ioriayep18:57
OerHeksin compiz, not nvidia settings18:57
OerHeksBut all those bugreports are complaining about nvidia only ..18:58
ioriaOerHeks,but the V-sync problem is general18:59
OerHeksYes, some complain about missing this feature in nvidia settings, so it is generally set in compiz i guess18:59
ioriaOerHeks, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_tearing18:59
d3ngarhi there, I seem to have a weird issue: when I plug my USB network adapter in it identifies it fine and connects, but I cannot resolve DNS anymore. Why is that?18:59
OerHekslots of hints to this, but Intel screantearing also, that is new for me19:00
ioriaOerHeks, someone on Xubuntu solved with compton19:01
ioria!info compton19:01
ubottucompton (source: compton): compositor for X11, based on xcompmgr. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.1~beta2-1 (vivid), package size 97 kB, installed size 243 kB19:01
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SepLiteCould anyone point me to a channel to go to for an issue with audio jacks/combo ports?19:03
OerHeksioria, i'd love to add a screentearing factoid in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia19:04
OerHeksSepLite, for ubuntu i would say #ubuntu-studio19:04
SepLiteOerHeks: Thanks!19:05
ioria^_^19:05
SimonSez33did someone try to use the video editing software edius per wine on ubuntu?19:07
kaligne<OerHeks> I could access it without LAN? Would it work with just an apache virtual hosts? ( so the L an A of LAMP  ;)19:08
easyOnMeanyone here who knows a javascript obfuscator that runs on ubuntu19:08
dunnowhoiameasyOnMe: uglifyjs?19:09
kaligneBesides, MonkeyDust, since I am doing networking on an Ubuntu is asking here ok this time?19:09
easyOnMedunnowhoiam: is it downloadable and does it run on ubuntu19:09
OerHekssure, you could make a local homepage, and test it with without publishing on your ip, just on your local machine ip, and virtual.19:10
dunnowhoiameasyOnMe: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/uglifyjs19:10
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easyOnMedunnowhoiam: have you used it before19:10
dunnowhoiameasyOnMe: not a whole lot, but yes19:11
ioriaSimonSez33, no, why you use it  ? ... for a cam19:11
OerHekskaligne, just don't forward port 80 in your router :-)19:11
ioriaSimonSez33, ok ... 16:9 ?19:12
cliftontsCould anyone remind me how I can reset my password if I can't remember it? I need to chat to someone in #python and it won't let me in unless I log in.19:12
easyOnMedunnowhoiam: so which of these shall I download: uglifyjs_1.3.4-1.dsc, uglifyjs_1.3.4.orig.tar.gz, or this one uglifyjs_1.3.4-1.debian.tar.gz19:13
kaligneOerHeks ould this be a bad or insecure thing to do?19:13
OerHekscliftonts, easy , read this page on #freenode https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#sendpass19:14
cliftontsI've just found the info, thanks. All these usernames and passwords these days drive me up the wall!19:14
dunnowhoiameasyOnMe: If you have npm, just do a npm install --global uglifyjs19:14
ioriaSimonSez33, you can try kino19:15
OerHekskaligne, not supersecure, but reasonable as a try-out.19:15
ioria!info kino19:15
ubottukino (source: kino): Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.3.4-2.1build1 (vivid), package size 3471 kB, installed size 8302 kB19:15
easyOnMedunnowhoiam: what is the command on the terminal to check the MD5 checksum for ubuntu19:15
OerHekskaligne, i think the guys in #ubuntu-server can tell you more about that than me.19:15
easyOnMeOerHeks: what is the command on the terminal to check the MD5 checksum for ubuntu19:16
SimonSez33thanks ioria19:16
OerHeks!md5sum19:16
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows19:16
easyOnMeOerHeks: I mean in ubuntu19:16
kaligneOerHeks ok thank you very much :)19:16
OerHeksalso a link to the checksums but those are easy to find.19:17
easyOnMedunnowhoiam: I downloaded the original so how do I use uglify then after I extracted the folder19:20
easyOnMeOerHeks: thanks19:20
ubuntu666test19:22
artur99Is there any ubuntu version that is totally minimal? I mean no gui, no pyhton, no ruby, no perl, no gcc, only basic packages?19:25
Scy!list19:25
ubottuScy: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».19:25
daftykins!mini | artur9919:25
ubottuartur99: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD19:25
ioria!minimal19:25
artur99i downloaded and installed this19:25
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artur99but while installing it installed hundred of unneeded packages19:26
artur99hundreds*19:26
daftykinsit's not *that* bad19:26
bekksartur99: How do you know they are unneeded?19:26
daftykinsif you have an issue with an install taking up 1GB disk then you might need to reevaluate life19:26
artur99well at least I dont need them :)19:26
artur99I need to install only an apache & mysql server and php19:27
OerHeksdiscussion about the standard choise for desktop selections.. i think ubuntu needs more things standard :-P19:27
bekksartur99: Which doesnt mean they are unnecessary. The package management system will break without Python, e.g.19:27
daftykinsartur99: go nuts on this ;) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core19:27
OerHekserr.. how about ubuntu-server?19:27
OerHeks:-D19:27
artur99aah :))19:27
OerHeksthen you get tasksel etc etc19:27
artur99and is there any other linux distro that won't include these? :D19:28
bekksartur99: Nope.19:28
artur99i tried DSL, but it still has GUI, and it wont recognise my mouse :))19:28
bekksartur99: Because every distro needs different packages you dont know about :)19:28
OerHeksmouse ...19:28
* OerHeks runs away19:29
daftykinsartur99: tinycore?19:29
bekks"mouse" on a "minimal" system :>19:29
artur99bekks, I need mouse to get out of a GUI19:30
daftykinsif you've got a GUI it's not minimal19:30
daftykinsalso, that's 100% wrong19:30
bekksartur99: Using the !mini install, you dont have a GUI :)19:30
artur99yes but i will have a few hundred Mbs19:30
bekksartur99: And?19:30
bekksartur99: Why is that critical to you?19:31
daftykinsmegabits?19:31
artur99i need it to make a portable VirtualBox machine with a small system19:31
bekksVirtualbox is not to be made portable.19:31
artur99you can export/import virtual machines19:31
artur99:D19:31
bekksWhich doesnt make Virtualbox portable.19:31
artur99well i meant "a protable OS that would run on any PC that will have VB installed"19:32
artur99:19:32
artur99:D19:32
ubuntu666help my cat is on the keyboard19:32
bekksInstall Ubuntu on a USB stick, install Virtualbox, done.19:32
ubuntu666CV3ZRMzlm BeW1kckdoZ1pRU01 NUh2e lA3ZkpLN XhIQ jI2SnhvV Gpra0tXTDl  VRGJXRW519:32
artur99bekks :( It is for a contest :D they are asking us to have an exported VB system19:33
ubuntu666pokk19:33
ubuntu666sorry19:33
artur99with our projects19:33
bekksartur99: Install Ubuntu on a USB stick, install Virtualbox, export a virtual machine, import it.19:33
Luy1nI'm having problems handling my wav files with avconv. obviously spaces are a problem for avconv, for it raises an error "./16.: No such file or directory" when converting "16. The Final Countdown-Europe (Punk Goes Classic Rock 2).wav". I tried using a bash script http://paste.ubuntu.com/11943856/ and I get errors for each file. so how do I avoid the whitespace problem?19:33
artur99yeah but that exported virtual machine won't have a big size?19:34
artur99that's why i need a very small system...19:35
bekksartur99: Thats totally unrelated to installing Ubuntu on a USB and installing Virtualbox. The size of the virtual machine does not depend on the host system.19:35
easyOnMeI install perl using this command:sudo apt-get install perl libcgi-pm-perl19:36
easyOnMeas instructed by a documentation19:36
bekkseasyOnMe: By which documentation?19:36
easyOnMehow come when I run this command it does not work: Desktop/Stunnix-JS-Obfus-5.2-Linux-trial/bin/startui.pl19:36
easyOnMebekks: http://stunnix.com/support/doc/jo/install-guide.shtml19:37
bekkseasyOnMe: Elaborate on "does not work" please.19:37
easyOnMebekks: I expect a GUI to pop up but nothing happens19:37
easyOnMeafter I type those commands in the terminal19:37
ioriaLuy1n, \19:37
bekkseasyOnMe: and does your system meet the requirements mentioned?19:38
easyOnMebekks: yes19:38
OerHekseasyOnMe, paid stuff, they have their own support .. http://stunnix.com/support/19:39
reveredgehey19:39
Luy1nioria: I understand how to escape a space normally, but can I pass that to my $file variable?19:39
easyOnMeOerHeks: no I just used their trial version19:39
reveredgeI want to specify different location for installation through apt-get19:39
easyOnMelol19:39
reveredgeis there any way?19:39
ioriaLuy1n, i think sed... but why not rename the files ?19:40
Luy1nioria: because it's a great lot of files :(19:40
ioriaLuy1n, rename script19:40
ioria*loop19:40
Luy1nioria: you mean smth like "for file in dir; do $sedmagic here; done" ?19:41
bekkseasyOnMe: And that version is still supported by that company ;)19:41
ioriaLuy1n, i did it once ... i don't remember but is easy http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2709458/bash-script-to-replace-spaces-in-file-names19:42
ioriaLuy1n, rename "s/ //g" * ... also works19:44
ioriaLuy1n, no, you have to add \19:45
easyOnMebekks: yup19:45
Luy1nioria: it worked with the commands from your link, thank you19:45
EriC^^Luy1n: use "$file"19:45
ioriaLuy1n, ok ^_^19:45
Luy1nEriC^^: oh I could have thought of that. damn ;(19:46
easyOnMebekks: their instruction was very simple extract the tar.gz file in any directory and run the bin/startui.pl and that's it19:46
easyOnMeunfortunately when I did so no GUI pops up19:47
bekkseasyOnMe: So consult their support.19:47
easyOnMebekks: if I issued this command into the terminal: M720SRS:~/Downloads$ sudo apt-get install perl libcgi-pm-perl does it mean that I install Perl inside the Downloads folder19:54
bekkseasyOnMe: No.19:55
bombermanhow can i use utf-8 here? )19:56
bekkseasyOnMe: Installing something into the Downloads folder is pretty much insane :)19:56
easyOnMebekks: so you mean I installed Perl correctly on my laptop19:56
bekkseasyOnMe: I dont know, since you havent pastebined the full output of that command.19:56
easyOnMebekks: one sec19:57
easyOnMebekks: http://pastebin.com/4htpRd2H19:59
bekkseasyOnMe: Given your output, the perl packages mentioned are installed correctly.19:59
xdosxhi everyone20:00
easyOnMebekks: still I am wondering why bin/startui.pl does not invoke the software's gui20:01
squinty_easyOnMe,  in Synaptic package manager locate the package file name (ie firefox) and then right click on it.  Click on Properties and then Installed Files    A listing of what files were installed to what directories is available there20:01
bekkseasyOnMe: Ask the support of that software.20:01
Lurchy hey everyone...anyone have experience with "wake on LAN" setups for ubuntu server?20:02
Lurchytrying to get this ASUS P5N-D ubuntu server box to wake up remotely20:02
easyOnMesquinty_: by Synaptic package manager you mean the software center in ubuntu20:03
easyOnMeI mean the Ubuntu Software Center20:03
LurchyI enabled settings in BIOS to WOL...but is "suspend" in ubuntu the same as "sleep?20:03
daftykinseasyOnMe: no they are separate, hence the different names.20:04
squinty_easyOnMe,  not sure if Software Center will display that off-hand but Synaptic package manager (install either via apt-get or Software center) will and is in the repo's20:04
easyOnMedaftykins: where do I find the synaptic package manager in ubuntu20:04
easyOnMesquinty_: no nothing was installed actually20:04
easyOnMeinstead only extracted files20:05
daftykinseasyOnMe: after you install it, but don't if you don't need it.20:05
squinty_easyOnMe,  my comments were in respect to  <easyOnMe> bekks: if I issued this command into the terminal: M720SRS:~/Downloads$ sudo apt-get install perl libcgi-pm-perl does it mean that I install Perl inside the Downloads folder     not your propriety software20:06
easyOnMesquinty_: so how do I find the synaptic package manager20:07
squinty_easyOnMe,  <squinty_> easyOnMe,  not sure if Software Center will display that off-hand but Synaptic package manager (install either via apt-get or Software center) will and is in the repo's20:08
SepLiteSo after an hour of searching for help on other channels, here I am again....20:09
SepLiteAnyways, can anyone help me change a combo jack to mic input?20:10
SepLiteEvery time I connect a mic(or any other device) pulseaudio detects it as a headphone20:10
bekksSepLite: So thats the headphone port. :)20:11
SepLiteCombo jack, meaning headphone and mic port are the same one :/20:12
NijuJust discovered the joys of 'screen' for terminal apps ☺20:12
NijuHow did I manage before?!20:12
compdocyou only just popped into existence20:13
SepLitein windows it makes me choose headphone or mic every time I connect something20:13
RaulwynnI'm on an adventure to play Diablo III on linux.20:16
rypervencheNiju: Check out tmux. Screen hasn't been worked on since 2005. Tmux is nicer.20:16
RaulwynnAnyway, when I get Battlenet pulled up, I cant seem to launch D320:17
NijuWill do rypervenche, thanks20:17
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TempMeHello. Someone experience with USB smart card readers ?20:19
TJ-TempMe: Many of us; please ask your specific question :)20:20
OY1RHow do i make ubuntu ask to unlock keyring ?20:21
TempMeHello TJ.20:21
TempMeMy : Bus 001 Device 002: ID 072f:9000 Advanced Card Systems, Ltd ACR38 AC1038-based Smart Card Reader20:21
TempMewon't recognise as ttyUSB20:21
OY1Ri cannot connect to my wifi since it's not asking for the keyrings20:21
TJ-rypervenche: Re screen, that isn't correct. GNU screen is still being worked on. Wily has v4.3.1 released end of June 201520:22
TJ-TempMe: ttyUSB* are for serial devices... is the SMART card supposed to present such an interface?20:22
melodiehi20:23
melodiehas someone started laptop-mode-tools in his laptop with Trusty lately? on minimal installs for instance? I seek for testimonials about #147595120:23
TempMeHow can I verify if  it is a serial device ??20:24
jhutchinsTempMe: It's not a serial device.20:24
TempMehow do you know ?20:25
jhutchinsTempMe: That's not what a serial device is.20:25
jhutchinsTempMe: It should present a card inserted as a storage device.20:25
rypervencheTJ-: Ah, I stand mistaken.20:25
TJ-TempMe: Usually manufacturer datasheets - But, looking at the current mainline Linux kernel I can't find any driver module that matches that device ID20:25
TempMeok, will see if I can find something in datasheets.20:26
jhutchinsTempMe: Your system recognizes it as a card reader, so it should have the correct driver loaded and work fine.20:27
jhutchinsTempMe: Is it not working?20:27
TJ-TempMe: In fact the only mention in the kernel of that manufacturer ID (ACS 0x072f) is for the PN533 driver20:27
OerHekshttps://mark911.wordpress.com/2014/01/04/how-to-get-the-eid-electronic-card-reader-acr38u-working-in-ubuntu-14-04-64-bit/20:29
TempMeDon't know if it is working, as I need to specify something as /dev/ttyUSBx for the application I wan't to let it use20:30
TempMePS : I don't want to use it as eID reader20:31
TempMePN533 driver is reprecenting what ?20:32
TJ-TempMe: PN533 is an NFC device20:32
TempMesoory fot the many questions, but what is a NFC device ?20:33
kreskIs Ubuntu a good choice for someone new to Linux completely?20:34
TJ-TempMe: Near Field Commununications20:35
MonkeyDust!manual | kresk start here20:35
ubottukresk start here: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/20:35
Raulwynnkresk Yes.20:36
TempMekresk. I knew nothing on linux and I love Ubuntu, as you can find A LOT ( everything ) of information online20:36
RaulwynnI'm a day into it and I'm already getting the hang of it.20:36
mtoroyarzow20:36
TempMeeven started with a headless server ...20:36
RaulwynnOnce you're used to the way it is different than windows you'll be blown away at it's simplicity20:37
RaulwynnIt's one downfall is hardcore gaming is lacking but it's stepping up20:37
RaulwynnOh, and It's 1000x more stable than Win and OSX when you have the right build for your rig20:38
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TempMe( not used to use IRC : how do you put the name-to in front of a chat line ? )20:40
TJ-TempMe: Did you look in "/var/log/dmesg" or (if you connected the device after boot-time "/var/log/kern.log") for kernel messages indicating the smart card reader being detected?20:41
squinty_!tab20:41
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.20:41
TJ-TempMe: Usually type a few characters of the nickname, then press Tab to complete it/offer all the possible completion options20:41
Raulwynnubottu: I just learned something.20:41
ubottuRaulwynn: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:41
RaulwynnWow...20:42
RaulwynnBlown away again.20:42
TempMeTJ- I did : I grep-ed for ttyUSB but found nothing. But it is recognized :20:42
TempMe[ 1982.680306] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, device number 220:42
TempMe[ 1994.304205] usb 1-1: new full-speed USB device number 3 using uhci_hcd20:42
TempMe[ 1994.685155] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=072f, idProduct=900020:42
TempMe[ 1994.685182] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=020:42
TempMe[ 1994.685193] usb 1-1: Product: ACR38 USB Reader20:42
TempMe[ 1994.685204] usb 1-1: Manufacturer: ACS20:42
TJ-!paste | TempMe20:43
ubottuTempMe: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:43
RaulwynnAnyone play Battle.net on Wine?20:43
TJ-TempMe: As it is a smart card reader I think you *may* need the PCSC daemon. See "apt-cache show pcscd" and if you want to install it do "sudo apt-get install pcscd"20:43
squinty_!anyone20:43
squinty_!wine20:44
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu20:44
TJ-TempMe: That kernel log output is simply telling you the device was connected... the english text comes from the USBIDs file, it doesn't indicate a driver is known20:45
MonkeyDustsquinty_  use /msg ubottu to test !factoids20:45
TempMeTJ: I have pcscd running20:45
squinty_MonkeyDust,  not testing.  scroll back20:46
TJ-TempMe: You may also need to "sudo apt-get install pcsc-tools"20:46
TempMeTJ: so I should find the driver for it ?20:46
pj__When I try to mount my windows partition from ubuntu to view my files I get this error "Error mounting /dev/sda4 at /media/pj/E62C09032C08D08B: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/sda4" "/media/pj/E62C09032C08D08B"' exited with non-zero exit status 14: Windows is hibernated, refused to mount.20:46
pj__Failed to mount '/dev/sda4': Operation not permitted20:46
pj__The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown20:46
pj__Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume20:46
TJ-TempMe: It looks as if the user-space libraries know how to talk to the device, and a kernel-level driver isn't needed20:46
pj__read-only with the 'ro' mount option." This is despite the fact that I shut down windows correctly, how do I fix this.20:46
TJ-pj__: the output tells you: " Please resume and shutdown Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting)"20:47
TempMeTJ: i Have already pcsc-tools running20:47
TJ-TempMe: Does it report that device when you list them with pcsc_scan ?20:48
squinty_pj__,  try running a chkdsk while in windows to see if anything barfs etc20:48
talkingmoviesHey everyone. I'm a super noob -- basically bought a Dell Chromebook for podcasting and installed Ubuntu on it in order to have it work. It's been going great. However I have this problem that I CANNOT find any solution for online. Earlier today i lost minimize/maximize windows and my cursor is an X. Things stay stickied, and I can't really exit/delete the session as much as I try. I am again, REALLY green with all of this. But so20:48
talkingmoviesmething I saw about unmounting the chroot? I need some help and don't know where else to turn.20:48
TempMeTJ: yes. It even shows me my inserted card20:48
pj__tj_: That was my question, I saw that but I had shutdown windows correctly, and I always get this error even though I'm fully shutting down windows20:49
bekkspj__: you have to ensure that fastboot is disabled.20:49
talkingmoviesI'm using xfce by the way20:49
pj__bekks: is fastboot a setting in windows20:50
bekkspj__: Yes.20:50
pj__bekks: Thanks, that sounds like it should solve it20:50
TempMeTJ-: so it seems recognized by the system, but i don't know how I should specify it to my application20:50
squinty_TempMe,   just out of curiosity does it show in the Disks program?20:52
TempMehow do I verify ?20:52
AEL-HCan anyone here recommend a general purpose hex editor for use on ubuntu?20:52
TJ-TempMe: The application should either directly use the PCSC API interface libraries, or support NSS (which requires manually adding the PCSC device to the NSS db_20:53
talkingmoviesHey everyone. I'm a super noob -- basically bought a Dell Chromebook for podcasting and installed Ubuntu on it in order to have it work. It's been going great. However I have this problem that I CANNOT find any solution for online. Earlier today i lost minimize/maximize windows and my cursor is an X. Things stay stickied, and I can't really exit/delete the session as much as I try. I am again, REALLY green with all of this. But so20:53
talkingmoviesmething I saw about unmounting the chroot? I need some help and don't know where else to turn.20:53
talkingmoviesShit. Didn't mean to send that again.20:53
TJ-!patience | talkingmovies20:53
ubottutalkingmovies: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/20:53
talkingmoviesI didn't mean to repeat! Accident.20:53
daftykinstalkingmovies: boot an older kernel to try, but i suspect you're running a non-truly normal ubuntu build there20:54
talkingmoviesSorry for the ignorance -- but I don't know how to boot an older kernel.20:54
daftykinshold left shift after power on and select an older one under 'advanced'20:55
talkingmoviesThank you!20:55
TJ-AEL-H: For GUI  or terminal (try "apt-cache search 'hex.*edit' ") ?20:55
TempMeTJ- application uses a config file where i need to specify the cardreader by /dev/tts/0 or /dev/ttyUSB0  or ...20:59
TJ-TempMe: Not sure how you deal with that; the card-reader doesn't have a serial interface20:59
AEL-HThanks TJ-, but I was more looking for a recommendation rather than a list of hex editors21:01
TJ-TempMe: is there a "/dev/pcsc/" ?21:01
TJ-AEL-H: that's a very personal kind of preference; I use hexedit (terminal) for simplicity but there are many more with more/less features21:02
AEL-HIn terms of a general purpose good for most applications would there be a particular hexeditor anyone could recommend?21:03
TempMeTJ- did a ls -al in /dev and there isn't21:04
odisaHello.21:05
daftykinslo21:05
TJ-TempMe: shame: I saw a suggestion on the pcslite project pages that for devices  in /dev/pcsc/ you can create a serial driver sym-link such as "ln -s /dev/pcsc/1 /dev/ttyS4"21:05
odisaI was hoping someone could help me with the following: I just made a back-up of my hard drives. I put all the documents from my Ubuntu partition into a seperate folder on the back-up drive (NTFS), and all seemed well. Then booted in to Windows, and I can't access the folder. Everything else is accessible. What went wrong?21:07
TJ-TempMe: That directory, or a similar one, is supposed to be created/managed by the pcscd apparently. I don't have a unit here to be able to test that21:07
odisa"not accessible the filename directory name or volume label syntax is incorrect21:07
odisais the error code I get21:07
odisamessage*21:07
odisaWould it have to do with permissions maybe?21:08
TempMeTJ- so when i compair disconnected /dev list with connected /dev list , I may find it ?21:09
bekksodisa: NTFS is unable to store linux permissions. So unless you are backing up documents only, your backup cannot be restored properly.21:10
odisabekks: I see. Well they are just files and folders I had. And they are accessible through the Ubuntu Live USB I have.. What do you suggest would be a solution?21:11
TJ-TempMe: No, from what I'm reading when PCSC daemon is running there should be a "/dev/pcsc/" device directory... any detected readers are added as nodes in that directory, the first as "/dev/pcsc/1" and so on21:12
bekksodisa: Not using NTFS on the backup drive.21:12
TJ-odisa: That sounds as if some of the files/directories have characters in their names that are illegal on NTFS according to Windows21:12
odisabekks: Which file system then?21:12
bekksodisa: The same filesystem your Ubuntu uses.21:13
odisaTJ-: ohh.. the folder name is "Linux?"21:13
TJ-odisa: With a question mark in it?21:13
TempMeTJ- as far as I saw, pcsc is for serial (rs232) readers, USB reader seems otherwise treated21:13
odisaTJ-: yes.. maybe that's it. do you think going back with the Live USB and changing that would do the trick?21:13
odisabekks: Well I wanted it NTFS to make it accessible from both Windows and Ubuntu, as I plan to do a clean dual-boot install21:14
TJ-odisa: that would do it. See https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd317748%28v=vs.85%29.aspx21:14
odisaTJ-: So had I created the folder in Windows, it would've stopped me from using that char I guess then?21:15
TJ-TempMe: No, PC/SC is an API interface definition defining how cards, readers, and operating systems/applications talk to each other21:15
TJ-odisa: Yes, I think so21:15
odisaTJ-: Alright thank you..! I'll try that, hope it works. If not, I'll be back. Good day all :)21:16
skinuxI need reminded of the command(s) to check if SWAP partition is actually mounted and if not how to set the system to mount it on startup again?21:16
TempMeTJ- I found this : USB  smart  card  reader  drivers  are located in /usr/lib/pcsc/drivers21:16
TempMe       directory  as  a  bundle.21:16
TempMeTJ- on http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/pcscd.8.html21:16
stevenmcqueevendo you guys have any links to some guides about customizing the desktop?21:17
TempMeTJ- so maybe it needs a driver ?21:17
TJ-TempMe: You can see where all the package files are with "dpkg -L pcscd"21:17
TJ-TempMe: I think the drivers are brought in by another package that pcscd depends on21:18
TJ-TempMe: E.g: package "libacr38u" if it isn't already installed, is possibly what you need21:18
TempMeTJ- dpkg -L pcscd result on http://paste.ubuntu.com/11944491/21:20
TJ-TempMe: Yes, I can see that on my own system using "apt-file list <package>" since I don't have the package installed.21:22
TempMeTJ- libacr38u on http://paste.ubuntu.com/11944501/21:22
TJ-TempMe: That's good! Can you show me the udevd rule? "pastebinit /lib/udev/rules.d/92-libacr38u.rules"21:23
TempMeTJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/11944532/21:27
cyborg_Hello21:27
skinuxHow do I get a list of mounted partitions that includes volume labels?21:28
skinuxI found sfdisk, but it doesn't say what the partition is, just mount names.21:29
ra21vitry sudo fdisk -l21:29
ra21visorry.. mount21:29
TJ-TempMe: So that simply sets the group owner of the device node, but it doesn't change whatever node name the device gets. That's what you need to find out still. You're sure there's no "/dev/pcsc/" directory, or similar naming?21:30
skinuxWell, that command didn't return anything saying swap....so does that means SWAP isn't getting mounted???21:30
TJ-skinux: "lsblk -f"21:31
wafflejockskinux, this should work, lsblk -o name,mountpoint,label,size,uuid21:31
RaulwynnAndroidIve installed gnome on ubuntu 14.04 but it made things bad so i tried to revert back to unity and now im getting a tty1 log in screen and unity wont run.21:31
k1lskinux: swap is not a "mount"21:31
TJ-skinux: "cat /proc/swaps"21:31
odisaTJ-: Thanks! Changing the folder name totally did the trick :)21:31
RaulwynnAndroidIts also telling me com.ubuntu.upstart does not exist and compiz (core) couldnt open display21:32
skinuxWhen I installed the system, there was a specific SWAP partition created, it was recommended to do so.21:32
TJ-skinux: "grep swap /etc/fstab /etc/crypttab"21:33
skinuxI've 3-4G RAM and there should be 1-2G SWAP, yet with Google Chrome using 1G, HexChat, Terminal, and Eclipse running, I'm so low on memory my system keeps freezing for a few seconds.21:34
skinuxHere is the output: https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/991f7ad9ac5e07fe71f121:35
k1lskinux: swapon -s21:35
jamesd_eclipse and chrome are pigs...  get a ssd for swap... or add more ram, or close more tabs... you may want to disable flash, which has been known to cause slowdowns21:36
skinux /swapfile                               file4194300431868-121:36
TempMeTJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/11944591/21:36
wafflejockRaulwynnAndroid, sounds like when you tried to remove gnome you may have removed other parts of the system that are required, upstart is the system that starts up the rest of the OS basically21:37
wafflejockRaulwynnAndroid, you can try, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop21:37
skinuxjamesd_: I've had the same issue with PhpStorm, so I don't think Eclipse really makes much difference.21:37
wafflejockit should reinstall any missing dependencies for unity21:38
skinuxAlthough, I may be willing to start using Firefox again it's memory leaking problem has been taken care of.21:38
RaulwynnAndroidUnable to locate package Ubuntu desktop21:38
skinuxOr maybe literally use Chromium if I can install Google Chrome extensions to it.21:38
k1lRaulwynnAndroid: "ubuntu-desktop" is the package name21:39
m1dnight_Is it possible to start a program for a user that has /bin/false as shell?21:39
chingaoskinux: the command "free -m" will display the total amount of free and used physical and swap memory21:39
RaulwynnAndroidI know irs not finding it21:39
wafflejockraul782, should be there http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/ubuntu-desktop21:39
wafflejockRaulwynnAndroid, ^21:39
k1lRaulwynnAndroid: please show the exact command and the output in a pastebin21:40
RaulwynnAndroidPaste.ubuntu.com/1194462321:41
skinuxI just added results of free -m to my Gist, I don't properly understand differences between how cached and used memory are actually used.21:41
NokajiHow do I copy a file to usr/lib64 - I do not have permissions to paste apparently21:41
skinuxMy understanding of cached memory is memory that Ubuntu/Linux has reserved for use, but isn't actually used....which is pointless to me.21:41
RaulwynnAndroidThere is no X envoirnment I guess?21:43
RaulwynnAndroidMakes sense21:43
skinuxRaulwynnAndroid: X environment for what?21:43
wileeeskinux, It was set up by people whom understand, if you don't than you're subjective opinion is moot21:43
k1lskinux: you are wrong. unused ram is pointless21:43
k1lso "free ram" is just driving a whole bus to transport only 1 person. so linux thinks: well i will use the free seats to speed up things21:43
RaulwynnAndroidI was trying to boot bioshock infinite from the terminal lol21:43
k1lRaulwynnAndroid: sorry had a reconnect, did you show a pastebin?21:43
RaulwynnAndroidBeing silly21:43
RaulwynnAndroidI did but I cantvdo much without x runtime stuff21:44
RaulwynnAndroidWhatever its called no unity and | pastebinitvisnt working21:45
looseboltonSay I want to wipe Ubuntu off my dual boot machine and install a different linux distro. What partitions can I keep without formatting, without having conflicting configs in the new distro? I assume /swap, what about /boot or /home?21:45
chingaoskinux: Line 3 of your gist shows Linux is using 2703 megabytes and has 1118 MB free for use. Line 4 shows you are using 422 MB of swap21:45
looseboltonAlso, grub is pretty good at detecting Windows these days, correct?21:46
k1lskinux: linuxatemyram.com21:46
wileeeloosebolton, What are you trying to save for the new install anything?21:46
skinuxAs far as I can tell, only 1/4 of SWAP is being used, but my RAM is pretty much full.21:46
chingaoskinux: ideally you shouldn't be using any swap.21:46
looseboltonwileee: I don't care about anything in /home, but I'd like to keep /boot and just add the new system to grub, to avoid messing something up and breaking windows21:47
k1lRaulwynnAndroid: so will you provide any more details?21:47
looseboltonDo you think grub is safe enough to let it auto detect windows for me?21:47
Nokajis'okay, dunnit21:48
wileeeloosebolton, keeping /boot as is is not good, use the partitions as is but formatted, if you need nothing saved.21:48
daftykinsloosebolton: yes. pretty pointless having a /boot.21:48
k1lloosebolton: i would discuss that with the new linux you want to install. since its their version and settings that will be used21:48
RaulwynnAndroidYeah Im booting from a liveusb right now. The only part that is running off my hdd is tty121:48
RaulwynnAndroidIm trying to install unity to the hdd wgile running off of a usb21:48
k1lRaulwynnAndroid: what is installed on that system?21:49
skinuxHmm. Well, the last time I had this problem it was because Ubuntu messed up and stopped mounting SWAP. Once I fixed it I didn't have the laggyness anymore.21:49
wileeeRaulwynnAndroid, with a chroot?21:49
looseboltonAlright, I'll just wipe everything and do it from scratch. Hopefully everything goes alright and I don't lose my windows functionality. The mobo is new and uses UEFI though, so I should be good21:49
skinuxBut, it doesn't seem that is the problem this time around.21:49
wileeeloosebolton, back it all up always.21:49
RaulwynnAndroidChroot?21:50
looseboltonyeah I have my data backed up, jsut would like to avoid having to reinstall21:50
RaulwynnAndroidHow do I do this?21:50
ObrienDaveloosebolton, don't wipe windows, just the ubuntu partitions21:51
wileeeloosebolton, Excellent. ;)21:51
looseboltonObrienDave: Windows is actually on a separate drive, I'm just worried about it being missing from the bootloader21:52
ObrienDavek21:52
TJ-TempMe: I've done a *lot* of reading and in summary I'm finding that "pcscd needs to be restarted after inserting a reader otherwise it won't be recognised"21:52
ObrienDaveloosebolton, you can always update GRUB to find windows21:52
skinuxOkay..so I have 1.1G free out of 3-4G RAM and 4G SWAP.21:52
TempMeTJ- so kill and start again ?21:53
wileeeskinux, what does this mean, "3-4G RAM" are you not sure?21:53
k1l<k1l> RaulwynnAndroid: what is installed on that disk?21:53
skinuxYeah, I'm not for sure if I have 3 or 4 gigs of RAM.21:53
Na3iLhey who want me to share my wikipage with him, and give me his feedbacks.. I'm thinking already about applying for Ubuntu membership21:53
TJ-TempMe: "sudo systemctl  restart pcscd" I think21:54
ObrienDaveskinux, most likely 4G21:54
wileeeskinux, figure it out, having a comment like that is a waste of all our time.21:54
k1lNa3iL: that suits better into #ubuntu-offtopic since that channel here is tech support focused21:54
RaulwynnAndroidIm running the liveusb to reinstall unity and seems to be working...21:54
skinuxWell, "Mem" says 3822 under total, so I guess 4 gigs is right.21:54
Na3iLok k1l ty21:54
wileeeRaulwynnAndroid, If you are not chrooted to the install nothing is installing21:55
TJ-skinux: see http://linuxatemyram.com/21:55
chingaoskinux: you have 3822 megabytes of ram total per what you pasted in your gist21:55
skinuxYes, I know...it's disk cacheing21:55
TempMeTJ- systemctl: command not found . Alternative ?21:55
TJ-TempMe: which ubuntu release is that? I thought it was using systemd21:56
k1lTempMe: systemctl is systemd. which ubuntu are you on?21:56
RaulwynnAndroidNo idea what Im doing. Time to wipe I guess.21:56
RaulwynnAndroidUbuntugnome is dumb21:56
k1lRaulwynnAndroid: why dont you just answer the questions?21:57
RaulwynnAndroidI have been21:57
TJ-TempMe: if not 15/04+ then use "sudo service pcscd restart"21:57
k1lRaulwynnAndroid: what is installed on that disk? what exactly? why dont you boot into that?21:57
xjkx[partition] my hard drive is with problem. I bought a new one. I cloned my ext4 partition (copied&pasted in gparted). Then grub was updated&installed. It found two ubuntus of the same version. But doesn't matter which one I pick, it always boots in my old hard drive :( because, it seems anyway, both partitions have the same uuid (since I copy pasted), so...maybe change uuid or what? They are also similar because one is sdb5 and other sdc5, so I don't know what 21:57
RaulwynnAndroidBecause its only tty1 that will not locate apt install ubuntu21:57
wileeefrom a live right?21:58
RaulwynnAndroidNo from tty121:58
k1lRaulwynnAndroid: why is it booting into tty1?21:58
wileeeafter boot the live right?21:58
TJ-RaulwynnAndroid: if you clone a partition the file-system UUID will be identical, so it is 50/50 which one gets used21:58
RaulwynnAndroidLiveusb can findcit but wont install because my hdd is encrypted21:58
TempMeTJ- Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.13.0-46-generic i686)21:58
TJ-TempMe: OK, so use the latter command I gave you to restart the system service21:59
wileeeRaulwynnAndroid, I would pay attention, you have some excellent helpers asking for info, stop, look and listen. ;)22:00
RaulwynnAndroidIts hard on a tinyv ndroid screen but im trying.22:00
RaulwynnAndroidOkay im logged into tty1. What do I do?22:01
TJ-RaulwynnAndroid: with the partition accessible, use "sudo tune2fs -U random /dev/sdXY" to change the UUID to a new random value, on one of the identical clones22:01
wileeeRaulwynnAndroid, How did you get to this tty, from a booted usb or the install?22:01
TempMeTJ- * Restarting PCSC Lite resource manager pcscd                           [ OK ]22:01
RaulwynnAndroidThe install.22:01
wileeecool thanks, that's all I need22:01
k1lRaulwynnAndroid: why is it booting into tty1?  i am really getting annoyed at having to ask questions over questions for getting details and you dont answer anything.22:02
TJ-TempMe: does pcsc_scan show the device still?22:02
RaulwynnAndroidUnity got messed up when i uninstalled ubuntugnome22:02
TempMeTJ- yes22:02
RaulwynnAndroidAfter restart it was dead.22:02
chingaoskinux: troubleshooting why your system is freezing up might be a little tough. I'm guessing a combination of the top and iotop commands would be needed.22:03
TJ-skinux: have you explored changing the sysctl value for vm.swappiness ?22:03
skinuxI was just thinking about swappiness, but don't know how to set it.22:04
RaulwynnAndroidDisconnected sorry.22:04
TJ-TempMe: OK, well if that is showing up the device is being presented as expected. You'll need to ask the device-manufacturer/supplier, or the developers of PCSC/libacr38u about getting a serial device, if that is possible at all22:04
TJ-skinux: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness22:05
RaulwynnAndroidSo im in tty1 on the installed os and unitycwont work because gnome killed it after uninstall22:05
TempMeTJ- OK. Thanks TJ for your patience and help !22:05
TJ-TempMe: Good luck with it :)22:06
skinuxIt appears I have 4G RAM 4G SWAP, so I don't know why I should be having memory problem anyway. Browser is using ~1G, then HexChat, Eclipse, and Terminal are running. I should have plenty of memory altogether.22:06
TJ-RaulwynnAndroid: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop"22:06
RaulwynnAndroidTJ please hold22:07
skinuxHmm...apparently my swappiness is set to 1022:07
TJ-skinux: it might not be a memory issue, it may be simply the -generic kernels aren't well-tuned to some desktop workloads. You might find the -lowlatency kernel alternatives perform better22:07
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RaulwynnAndroidUnable to locate package ubuntu-desktop22:08
skinuxI'm gonna try changing swappiness to 6022:08
RaulwynnAndroid@tj22:08
TJ-skinux: That's pretty aggressive, so when files need to be read the kernel needs to seek and read the file blocks from disk again22:08
skinuxWhich is agressive, 10 or 60?22:08
k1lskinux: so you already changed that22:09
TJ-RaulwynnAndroid: what does "cat /etc/issue" report?22:09
ObrienDaveskinux, 1022:09
chingaoskinux: 10 seems agressive22:09
bekksskinux: 60 is more aggressive than 10.22:09
k1lskinux: the answer in the askubuntu link explains it22:09
RaulwynnAndroidNo such file or directory22:09
skinuxWell, that article says Ubuntu uses a default of 60, so if 10 is agressive why would Ubuntu go with a default of 60?22:10
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k1lskinux: did you read what the difference is?22:11
TJ-skinux: vm.swappiness controls the *balance* between evicting file-pages vs anonymous-pages from memory. Values lower than 60 will force the file-pages to be evicted from the file-cache. You might be better off with a *larger* value than 6022:12
daftykinsskinux: 60 what? pears? bananas?22:12
ObrienDavereally? ;p22:12
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RaulwynnAndroidTj: No such file or directory22:13
TJ-RaulwynnAndroid: sounds like the entire system has been hosed.22:13
RaulwynnAndroidYeah. Im actually already reinstalling22:13
skinuxOkay, so you're saying to get rid of the slowness/lagginess, I want to use SWAP more often?22:13
RaulwynnAndroidTJ Im going to go eat a hotdog.22:13
AbuDharhey22:14
AbuDharanyone who has experience with Ubuntu phone?22:14
AbuDhardo you like it?22:14
xangua!touch22:14
ubottuInformation about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch22:14
AbuDharthanks.22:14
TJ-skinux: No, I'm not, since we don't know what is causing the lag. I'm just explaining the implications of the possible vm.swappiness values on performance.22:14
skinuxFor the most part, it happens when I open up a blog that has a bunch of ads.22:17
skinuxOr when I have more than 6 browser tabs.22:17
TeddyMurrayhi, is there anyway i can monitor why the mysql db is crashing? someone said its a RAM issue (512mb) but no one uses the site besides me.22:17
ObrienDave*face palms* and you can't figure out why you have lagginess?22:18
TJ-skinux: uninstall flash, install an ad-blocker, use noscript!22:18
tewardskinux: is not visiting that site with a ton of ads an option?  And install an ad blocker, use noscript, and don't use Flash (where possible)22:19
ObrienDaveadding 4G more RAM would be better22:19
TJ-ObrienDave: What? just so the ad-brokers can burn more of the system's resources? :)22:19
skinuxI don't want to use noscript because I don't want to block JavaScript entirely.22:20
AbuDharcan I install Touch on any phone?22:20
ObrienDaveTJ-, no so people wont ask silly questions when they can't figure out why 6 open tabs and 42 ads per page bog down the system ROFL22:21
TJ-skinux: I use noscript by default and simply create permanent permissions for sites/scripts I wish to allow22:21
k1lAbuDhar: needs an open bootloader and linux drivers. but better ask the specialists in #ubuntu-touch22:21
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TJ-ObrienDave: :p ... I get rather annoyed over such browser issues, especially as here in the E.U. we have a law that requires web-sites to obtain prior permission to place a TXT cookie *but* there's nothing similar requiring the same prior permissions if those sites wish to use/abuse the system resources!22:22
chingaoskinux: I use Ublock Origin, but all my computers have 8GB ram.22:22
ObrienDaveTJ-, you can't fix stupid ;P22:23
TJ-ObrienDave: explains why I despair every time I look in the mirror :)22:23
ObrienDaveLOL22:24
TeddyMurraymy mysqld is crashing without an error -- someone said i can use a "service monitor" to figure out how it's crashing -- any suggestions?22:25
daftykinsrun it instead of daemonising it22:25
TeddyMurrayit crashes after some time, not on the initial run22:26
Guillermo_hola?¿22:27
Guillermo_alguien anda por aki?¿22:27
TJ-TeddyMurray: maybe it SIGSEGVs - run it under gdb (the debugger) and see if it catches a back-trace (best to install the -dbg symbol libraries if you choose that route)22:27
TeddyMurraycool thank you TJ-22:28
k1l!es | Guillermo_22:28
ubottuGuillermo_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.22:28
looseboltonHow can I see the *exact* start and end points of my partitions? parted only shows within 1 GB22:30
TJ-loosebolton: "parted unit s print"22:31
TJ-loosebolton: see "man parted" and the description for "unit"22:32
looseboltonThank you, sorry I should have just checked the man lol22:32
TeddyMurrayTJ-, could you point me to a good tutorial for using GDB with Mysqld?22:35
TJ-TeddyMurray: see https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/using-gdb-on-mysqld.html22:36
TeddyMurrayexcellent, thank you22:37
TJ-TeddyMurray: did you check in "/var/log/kern.log" in case the kernel's OOM killer is terminating the process?22:38
TeddyMurrayi did not, i will check not, i checked the mysql.err and mysql.log files -- and syslog22:38
TJ-TeddyMurray: if the server doesn't have much RAM then Out Of Memory killer can be a common issue *if* some DB client (e.g. a web application) abuses it22:40
TeddyMurrayits a wordpress site, im the only one that uses it :(22:40
TeddyMurraystill under development22:40
TJ-TeddyMurray: check if other processes are also eating up memory, forcing mysqld out possibly22:41
* stareyes is away: I'm busy22:41
TeddyMurrayah nice, i will22:41
k1l!away > stareyes22:41
ubottustareyes, please see my private message22:41
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kokutHello, anyone knows an alternative for pulseaudio? its chomping on my computers resources :\22:50
TJ-kokut: pulseaudo shouldn't be eating resources unless it's been configured to do something non-default like remixing samples (which require CPU processing), or if the hardware bit-rate doesn't match the default22:52
wileeekokut, use a lighter de22:52
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debbie_/join #sailfish23:06
debbie_oops23:06
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kokuthi, whats the geoip development library?23:15
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reisiokokut: hrmm?23:16
kokutreisio: nvm found it23:18
Kiranicohi, I have a large .zip file on google drive, is there a way to wget/curl it?23:18
reisioKiranico: I'm pretty certain google has a way to link to things, yes23:18
BloombugAnyone??23:19
krabadorask23:19
BloombugThibking about getting a pi. Who do i enable rs23:20
Bloombug*raspbian's23:20
Kiranicoreisio it can't be done, requires authentication etc23:20
krabadorjust a little bit offtopic mate23:20
BloombugNormal GUI23:20
BloombugWhy???23:20
Kiranicohttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/25010369/wget-curl-large-file-from-google-drive23:20
reisioKiranico: nah23:21
krabadorBloombug, that's #ubuntu23:21
BloombugF*ck!!! My bad!23:21
reisionot only is it possible, but asking a question just to pretend like you already knew the answer is pointless23:21
Kiranicoreisio none of those methods work23:22
reisioKiranico: well you're the one who mentioned them, not me23:22
KiranicoSo it's actually possible reisio? I haven't been able to wget any large files23:23
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reisio'course it's possible23:28
KiranicoI'd like to know which command did you tried, as of currently I haven't been able to get it to work. Google Drive just spits back a sign in page.23:32
KiranicoMy large file is shared with the public23:32
Jad-CHello?23:33
Jad-CCan I have help with something?23:33
reisiohow is it you have managed to use google drive without knowing how to transfer data to and from it?23:33
reisioJad-C: depends on the something, doesn't it23:33
Jad-Clol23:33
Jad-Cwell23:33
Jad-CI'm trying to create a usb23:33
Jad-Cwhere I can plug it into any computer, and23:34
Jad-Chas all my files23:34
Jad-Con the usb23:34
Jad-Chow would I do that?23:34
Jad-Cplug it in with ubuntu and files*23:34
Jad-C(for libraries, so I can do my own stuff)23:34
bazhangpersistent usb Jad-C23:35
Kiranicoreisio are you trolling buddy? Of course I know how to transfer files, I just can't *wget* a file23:35
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Jad-Cwell23:35
Jad-Cone problem23:36
bazhang!usb | Jad-C23:36
ubottuJad-C: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent23:36
Jad-CI have Universal USB Installer23:36
Jad-C-oh23:36
Jad-Cthx23:36
Jad-Clemme check23:36
squinty_Jad-C,  or install directly to a usb stick of sufficient size23:36
Jad-CI have a 30GB usb23:36
Jad-Cthat enough?23:36
squinty_yep23:36
Jad-Cphew23:36
reisioKiranico: nice talking with you23:36
Jad-Cwait23:37
Jad-Cone problem23:37
Jad-CI have Universal USB Installer23:37
Jad-Cand23:37
doctorlyWhat is the best was to ssh into my desktop pc from my laptop, without a gui. And are there better options for being in-home/away from home?23:37
Kiranicoreisio you know what wget is?23:37
squinty_Jad-C,  try not to use your Enter key as punctuation please23:37
Jad-Chm23:37
Jad-CSorry, I just did it again xD23:37
wileeeJad-C, Can you think before posting and lay off the enter?23:37
Jad-CHabbit, sorry about it.23:37
Jad-CI'm on Universal USB Installer, and it says on Step 4: Set a Persistent file size for storing changes, I assume thats Persistent thing, but it only allows me to put 4089MB, I have a 30GB usb though.23:38
reisiosorry I have a rule lately, not to converse with people who call others trolls at the drop of a hat :)23:38
squinty_Jad-C,  fat32 only allows file size to 4gig23:38
reisiodoctorly: what's stopping you from using just 'ssh'?23:39
Jad-Cah.23:39
Jad-Cwhat format should I use, NTFS?23:39
reisioJad-C: what do you need persistent storage for?23:39
Jad-CI plan on having a usb that I can plug into any ol23:39
Kiranicoreisio didn't say you were a troll, but from this comment "how is it you have managed to use google drive without knowing how to transfer data to and from it?" you seem to be belittling me for no reason23:39
Jad-Ccomputer and have my files23:39
doctorlyreisio: what is the best server-side software to run though?23:39
Jad-C(sorry I accidently hit enter)23:39
reisioKiranico: not even reading your msgs now23:40
reisiodoctorly: openssh's sshd23:40
reisioJad-C: if 'any ol computer' includes Windows or Mac OS boxes, yes, NTFS is the least annoying choice, sadly23:40
Kiranicoalright man wasn't attacking you but if you see it that way, I can't help it23:40
reisionot even reading your msgs now23:40
Jad-CJust Windows.23:40
squinty_doctorly,  the ssh server is not install automatically.  you will need to install it23:41
reisioJad-C: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/or#Conjunction23:41
wileeeJad-C, We see your premise, look up casper-rw as a partition, if you want more than 4 gigs persistence. However I would just do a full install on 32 gigs.23:41
doctorlyreisio Also, won't I run into security problems? Is there a write-up I can read on making it secure for my network?23:41
reisiodoctorly: ssh stands for secure shell23:41
Jad-Chow do you do a full install on 32 gigs?23:41
Jad-Cthats what im trying to do23:41
reisiodoctorly: it's secure by default, just stay up-to-date23:41
wileeeJad-C, point the install at it, no different than any other install.23:42
reisio^23:42
squinty_Jad-C,  start the installation program but point the partitioning section to your usb rather than hard drive23:42
Jad-Cah23:42
Jad-CWould I need more than 1 usb though?23:42
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robotonicshello23:42
Jad-Cor can I run the installer on the usb I install it on23:42
squinty_Jad-C,  yes or one usb and one dvd23:43
Jad-Coh ok23:43
wileeeJad-C, You will need a boot off the usb yes.23:43
Jad-CThank you very much :D23:43
Jad-CI guess I could try a virtual machine actually23:43
reisioJad-C: it's simpler with two devices, one to install from, and one to install to, yes23:43
Jad-Ccuz this is my only usb23:43
squinty_Jad-C,  that was a "yes" for two usb's23:43
Jad-CYes I know that23:43
Jad-CAlright, thank you all23:43
Jad-CCya23:43
squinty_bye23:43
doctorlyreisio: I understand that it is secure shell, I was just under the impression that the protol was superseded by other protocols now. That is good to know though, I will just do as you suggested, it sounds like the best option23:44
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reisiodoctorly: the only way that'd happen is if it was found out ssh had some absurd fundamental design flaw, which is probably impossible23:48
reisiobasically all it does is send information to and from, encrypted in whatever the latest best encryption system is23:49
xjkxI cloned partition with dd from hdb5 to hdc5. I changed the uuid of hdc5. I changed /etc/fstab of mount point of hdc5 to the new uuid. I ran grub-update and grub install. But...when I load it (and I hit edit to see, it had the new uuid and hd2 meaning hdc), but it still loads hdb5, I don't understand :(23:55

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