[00:03] <metemp> oerheks, linked-in invite on your way ;-)
[00:05] <uio> Hello, I am trying to scan with simple scan, but it says that no printer is detected... any ideas ?
[00:05] <ObrienDave> which printer?
[00:07] <uio> ... but lsusb detects it....
[00:08] <ObrienDave> WHICH PRINTER?
[00:08] <TJ-> uio: Simple Scan needs the SANE drivers for the scanner device installing
[00:08] <uio> ObrienDave: hp deskjet f4290
[00:08] <ObrienDave> install hplip
[00:08] <uio> TJ-: Okay.... I ran printer detection but I'll try the sane drivers.
[00:09] <uio> ObrienDave: Thanks - installing now.
[00:09] <TJ-> uio: Usually, for HP, you need the 'hplip' packages and it configuring too
[00:09] <uio> ObrienDave: So detection and use are two seperate things
[00:10] <ObrienDave> detection is for printing, usually ;p
[00:13] <TJ-> hplip runs the scanner configuration too
[00:15] <uio> ObrienDave: TJ- Thanks ! It's scanning :)
[00:16] <ObrienDave> most welcome
[00:28] <fallore> when i try to play counterstrike go, supported natively on ubuntu 14.04, looking up and to the left is slower than all other directions. mouse accel is off, it happens with multiple mice. any ideas?
[00:30] <leeand00> I'm having a little trouble with ACLs in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.  I added a user, bkupusr to the group bkupusr, and I added read access to a file using setfacl, but the user still can't read from the directory.
[00:34] <mgolisch> leeand00: what permissions did you set on the file?
[00:34] <mgolisch> and did you restart whatever application tries to read the file after you changed the users groups if you set acls for the group only that is
[00:36] <RCraig> Hallo
[00:36] <RCraig> Is this the correct channel to ask advice/support questions?
[00:36] <notaeon> RCraig: about ubuntu? yes
[00:37] <RCraig> Thanks... let me format my question... one moment please. . .
[00:37] <leeand00> setfacl -dm g:bkupusr:r appdir/
[00:38] <RCraig> I have a Clevo P770ZM; Ubuntu works fine in a VM but no go on an install; the error/hang I get is: mmc0: unknown controller version (3). You may experience problems.
[00:39] <RCraig> I cannot turn off/disconnect the card reader or USB ports in CMOS
[00:39] <leeand00> in the directory
[00:39] <leeand00> msg mgolishch in the directory
[00:40] <RCraig> My machine stats may be viewed here: http://www.clevo.com/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=762&lang=en
[00:42] <RCraig> I sent a message to Ubuntu Advantage for help (no one in the forums can fix this); I'm retired and just a single user that wants Ubuntu as my main OS before MS pushes out Windows 10 to this new laptop.
[00:43] <RCraig> Do you know if anyone has successfully installed Ubuntu on a Clevo P770ZM?
[00:46] <MKCoin> Everyone who uses steam, check your emails, as there was an exploit in Valve's authentication that allowed someone to reset your password without knowing it. It appears to have been patched, but I dunno how many people were affected.
[00:48] <RCraig> If there is no one able to answer my question would you happen to be able to  point me in the right direction?
[00:50] <notaeon> RCraig: can you not continue the install anyway?
[00:50] <RCraig> No sir. Install hangs on that error.
[00:51] <RCraig> I have also tried Mint/SUSE/Fedora/etc... no distro will install.
[00:51] <RCraig> However... they will run in a VM just fine.
[00:52] <ObrienDave> most likely a kernel issue
[00:52] <OerHeks> RCraig, is there a BIOS update available?
[00:52] <RCraig> That's what I'm thinking too. Is Linus available? ;)
[00:52] <ObrienDave> you would have to find someone with an identical machine to confirm that
[00:53] <RCraig> No; I am running the most recent BIOS/UEFI release
[00:53] <OerHeks> RCraig, what if you put a blank CF card in it? sounds silly, maybe something different happens?
[00:53] <RCraig> I've posted all over the 'net and spoke with the firm I purchased my laptop through... no luck. I do see several posts where others have had the exact same issue.
[00:54] <ObrienDave> RCraig, try installing an older LTS version. 12.04 is about as old as you can get
[00:54] <RCraig> I tried the Blank CF card as well as no card. Still no go.
[00:54] <OerHeks> Yes, i read some too, some bring that machine back.
[00:55] <OerHeks> RCraig, 15.10 is still in development, but maybe that newer kernel solves your issue. worth a try
[00:55] <RCraig> It is a beautiful laptop... just not Linux compatible (yet). This really gets to me... I have never not been able to run Ubuntu.
[00:56] <RCraig> Whom could I approach to address this at a kernel level?
[00:56] <ObrienDave> linus
[00:56] <RCraig> And how do I contact him? I'm a little fish... he may listen though.
[00:57] <ObrienDave> maybe the 15.10 might be the way to go
[00:57] <RCraig> I wonder if Linus actually reads his email
[00:57] <greenride> I have a desktop and ubuntu server both running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. I'm trying to wakeup another box using 'sudo etherwake <my_mac>'. It works from the desktop but not the server. Furthermore, wakeonlan works from both boxes. What could cause this? The error message is 'SIOCGIFHWADDR on eth0 failed: No such device'.
[00:58] <ObrienDave> RCraig, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[00:58] <RCraig> I'll check it, thanks
[00:58] <OerHeks> RCraig, just last week, linus complained about the crappy spamfilter in gmail :-D
[00:58] <OerHeks> so he check spam too
[00:58] <notaeon> greenride: could it be using a different disgnation for ethernet say eth1 instead of eth0 ?
[00:59] <RCraig> I can do a Google search for his email addy on GMail :)
[00:59] <RCraig> Thanks guys... catch you later. I need to hunt down Linus.
[00:59] <OerHeks> add him > https://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts
[01:01] <OerHeks> this guy seems to have it running http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-clevo-p770zm-sager-np9772-owners-lounge.768770/page-215#post-9998935
[01:05] <TJ-> greenride: does the server have multiple interfaces; you need to tell etherwake which to use in that case
[01:15] <cofffeebean>   anyone kno if there is there a tech room in here for ubuntu ?? ..
[01:17] <wileee> cofffeebean, here you would want to give a issue outline, maybe you're where you ought to be
[01:18] <stoopkid> hi i'm wondering where to find a linux install that doesn't include the desktop environment?
[01:18] <stoopkid> err ubuntu*
[01:18] <wileee> server
[01:19] <wileee> !mini | stoopkid
[01:19] <cofffeebean>   wileew  ok..,  i'm having problems installing adobe flash in ubuntu..,  i kno how to set it up & run in windows  but NOT ubuntu..
[01:19] <stoopkid> wileee: nice thanks
[01:20] <wileee> cofffeebean, Two types in ubuntu adobeflash-plugin or pepperflash which is in chrome.
[01:20] <wileee> well besides some opensource, gnash is one
[01:21] <OerHeks> cofffeebean, use chrome, with build-in pepperflash, or use the pepperflash-plugin-installer that downloads chrome and extracts pepperflash for ff.
[01:21] <wileee> cofffeebean, You may not know that adobe does not support flash for linux now so latest linux is way behind adobes latest, except pepperfalsh.
[01:22] <cofffeebean>   ok wilee this came about when i opened firefox & logged into a secure site & it said my flash was outdated..,  i downloaded the new version it told me to from adobe..,  i i dont kno enuff abt. ubuntu to get it to open/install etc. ..
[01:22] <wileee> they both have their issue for sure just in plain use
[01:22] <wileee> issues's*
[01:22] <xangua> cofffeebean: a "secure site" using flash¿
[01:23] <cofffeebean>   xangua  yeah  my online banking site..
[01:23] <wileee> cofffeebean, you wont get your linux flash that way it is from the ubuntu repos
[01:23] <xangua> why would anyone run flash on a bank site¿
[01:23] <BuzzardBuzz> flash is an exploit waitning to happen?
[01:24] <wileee> people want to see the money dance
[01:24] <BuzzardBuzz> no real bank would do that
[01:25] <cofffeebean>   wileee  then where do i get it from ??  ubuntu has a message up telling me the plugin is outdated & to upgrade/update it & when i click that link on - it takes me to adobe ! ..
[01:25] <wileee> cofffeebean, OerHeks gave you install command for the pepperflash
[01:25] <wafflejock> cofffeebean, what browser are you running?
[01:25] <cofffeebean>   xangua  i have no idea..,  but evidently  its needed there..
[01:26] <wafflejock> cofffeebean, looks like someone already mentioned you can just run Chrome
[01:27] <cofffeebean>   wafflejck  ff version 39..
[01:27] <wafflejock> cofffeebean, the flash plugin packaged into Chrome will update itself in the background FF is choosing to disable it from what I've heard due in part to recent exploits found
[01:27] <OerHeks> Chrome will switch to HTML5 if possible.
[01:28] <cofffeebean>   i cud run chrome yeah..,  but i'm tryin to update my pc  thats only reason i'm asking..
[01:29] <wafflejock> cofffeebean, yeah it's a relatively recent problem but Flash has a pretty bad past as well when it comes to security exploits exposes by the plugin and with HTML5 features (like video streaming) there's less of a need for Flash for most uses, hopefully your bank switches over soon but I wouldn't hold out for Flash to get better
[01:29] <OerHeks> cofffeebean, i think you have been answered. go get pepperflash
[01:30] <wafflejock> and that ^^
[01:30] <OerHeks> If the update issue still persists, it is a scam.
[01:30] <cofffeebean>   wafflejack  ok  let me try chrome on there & see if it works any diffrent..,  does anyone kno the newest version of adobe for chrome ??  cuz one of the downloads i tried to install seemed to install  & it was adobe 16  if i read it right..
[01:31] <OerHeks> ....
[01:31] <squinty> fwiw, there has also been an update of flash-installer (in repo).... ff stopped displaying the flash security error messages after updating with it here
[01:31] <wafflejock> cofffeebean, it'll have a version of flash from adobe built in Google maintains chrome and updates the plugin for users by default so nothing more to do just install Chrome and you should be good
[01:32] <wafflejock> squinty, good to know
[01:32] <cofffeebean>   wafflejack  they just made or put-out a new website BUT i havent used this pc in a couple of mos.  & i dont kno if its my pc  or  their site..
[01:33] <wafflejock> cofffeebean, yeah it's Flash 18 in Chrome right now you should be fine though
[01:36] <cofffeebean>   ok  chrome works ok over there it seems..,  but the firefox still gives that message out..,  so are ya'll saying thats normal ??..
[01:36] <OerHeks> cofffeebean, I just read back, nobody days so.
[01:36] <OerHeks> says*
[01:37] <cofffeebean>   oer..,  u lost me  try again pls..
[01:38] <cofffeebean>   OerHeks   that pepper is for ff  or all browsers in linux ??..
[01:38] <squinty> cofffeebean,  install flash-installer from the repo's and then head on over to the Adobe flash test page to see if ff still barfs with a security notice.
[01:39] <xangua> cofffeebean: firs I don't think you are forced or actually need adobe flash on your bank account site, second adoble flash hasn't recieved a major update since 2010 (only security updates)
[01:39] <mgolisch> i think pepper flash is chrome only
[01:39] <cofffeebean>   squinty  theres my problem..,  i'm not sure if i'm installing it right in firefox..,  i dont kno enuff abt. ubuntu or linux..,  if i did i wudnt be asking..
[01:40] <mgolisch> think google made that as adobe didnt update flash anymore
[01:41] <wileee> mgolisch, do your research, not not even close
[01:41] <squinty> cofffeebean,  you don't have to.   just use synaptic, or apt-get, or software center to install flash-installer.  you should be good to go after that afaik
[01:41] <mgolisch> wileee: how so?
[01:42] <mgolisch> iam sure pepperflash uses chromes custom plugin format
[01:42] <cofffeebean>   where is this pepper falsh at ??  anyone one have a link to it & is there a certain version of ubuntu it'll only run on  or will it work with all versions ??..
[01:42] <OerHeks> squinty +1 > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash
[01:42] <wileee> mgolisch, you can use pepper in FF and other browsers, yes pepper is googles response
[01:43] <mgolisch> realy? thats new to me
[01:43] <squinty> cofffeebean,  there is also a pepper flash installer in repo's   pepperflashplugin-nonfree       - Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin
[01:43] <wileee> been happening for awile
[01:43] <mgolisch> most browsers only implement npapi the netscape plugin api for plugins
[01:44] <cofffeebean>  squinty whats the link to page pls. ..
[01:44] <xangua> (20:38:59) xangua: cofffeebean: first I don't think you are forced or actually need adobe flash on your bank account site, second adoble
[01:44] <squinty> cofffeebean,  no web page link (linux can be different than windows installations).
[01:45] <squinty> cofffeebean, as previously mentioned, use the Software Center, or apt, apt-get or synaptic package manager to install it
[01:46] <squinty> cofffeebean,  Software manager should already be installed on your system (so will apt and apt-get but they are terminal command line driven)
[01:46] <cofffeebean>   squinty  true  but the type for windows & ubuntu are diffrent from what i've always seen & u hafta pick a version of flash to run on ubuntu..,  yes  or  no ??..
[01:46] <xangua> (20:21:25) OerHeks: cofffeebean, use chrome, with build-in pepperflash
[01:47] <squinty> cofffeebean,  the repositories dictate which version of a program is available through them.
[01:47] <dukestyx> hey, having a world of pain trying to kill nouveau off, could anyone either direct me to the correct channel to discuss trying to disable the damn thing on startup, or does anyone know a surefire way?  I've added the blacklist to grub, updated grub, added a blacklist in modprobe, updated initramfs, at my wits end.
[01:48] <cofffeebean>   xangua  ok  thanks  &  thanks to all of u ..
[01:48] <mgolisch> ff does not provide direct support for ppapi nor do other browsers
[01:48] <mgolisch> so unless your gona use some potentialy experimental wrapping thing your not gona be able use pepper flash in anything but chrome or chromium
[01:49] <cofffeebean>   mgolisch   what do u mean by " experimental wrapping " ??  i never seen that term before..
[01:50] <xangua> end up discussing about flash while the real issue here is why would your bank account site need adobe flash to run?
[01:50] <mgolisch> like i mean that the existing ppapi2npapi wrappers are mostly alpha quality code
[01:50] <mgolisch> id not try that
[01:51] <mgolisch> what bank is that?
[01:51] <mgolisch> sounds scary
[01:51] <cofffeebean>   xangua  yeah  that abt. sums it up..,  " had my bank not've put a message up there saying the adobe flash plug-in on my os not been outdated "  then i wudnt be here at all ! ..
[01:51] <squinty> xangua,  probably a "dancing credit card" or such to liven up their dull web page.  Doubt very much if involved with security end of things  :-)
[01:54] <cofffeebean>   ya'll have a good nite..  thanks again..
[01:55] <black_13> what is the best way to share files between an ubuntu vm and windows host
[01:56] <h0mer> mount a shared drive
[01:56] <h0mer> or scp
[01:56] <h0mer> (winscp)
[01:57] <squinty> black_13,   samba is also another way ("best" method is a personal preference)
[01:57] <black_13> what is commonly used
[01:58] <mgolisch> the vm runs on the windows box?
[01:58] <wileee> black_13, linux only in a VM, no dual...etc booting?
[01:59] <black_13> ubuntu vm on my windows box
[01:59] <mgolisch> if it uses bridged networking you could just cifs mount a share from the windows box
[01:59] <black_13> it used NAT
[02:00] <mgolisch> most desktop virtualisation software provides some sort of shared folder feature too
[02:00] <black_13> uses NAT
[02:00] <wileee> black_13, With a multiboot setup herte windows and linux I just use a shared ntfs
[02:00] <wileee> here*
[02:00] <mgolisch> it usualy does not require direct networking between host and vm
[02:00] <mgolisch> thats probably a better option then
[02:00] <black_13> how is that?
[02:01] <mgolisch> vbox or what do you use?
[02:01] <black_13> vmware workstation
[02:01] <mgolisch> iam sure they have that too
[02:01] <mgolisch> install vmware-tools in the guest and configure a shared folder, done
[02:01] <black_13> vmware version 11.0.0 build-2305329
[02:03] <wileee> black_13, Why the VM?
[02:03] <black_13> why use a linux vm?
[02:04] <wileee> why are you not just dual booting, just curious
[02:04] <mgolisch> it requires a reboot?
[02:04] <mgolisch> isnt that enough reason?
[02:04] <black_13> i am boning up on linux for a job interview
[02:04] <black_13> i use linux ages ago
[02:05] <black_13> to do c++
[02:05] <mgolisch> wish my hardware would be vt-d capable i could run my gameloader in kvm then
[02:05] <black_13> I have used windows
[02:06] <black_13> wileee: do you have a better method i should use
[02:07] <mgolisch> http://pubs.vmware.com/workstation-11/index.jsp#com.vmware.ws.using.doc/GUID-AACE0935-4B43-43BA-A935-FC71ABA17803.html
[02:07] <mgolisch> that explains shared folders
[02:07] <wileee> not really
[02:12] <black_13> what about cifs
[02:13] <fallore> i made a bootable ubuntu USB that i'd now like to use as a windows install usb. however when i open the USB in gparted to format it, i get this error message. does anyone know how i should proceed? http://dpaste.com/3Y1RXS9#wrap
[02:18] <squinty> fallore,  maybe try  gparted -> device -> create partition table
[02:22] <squinty> fallore,  or zero out the usb stick with the dd program   sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx bs=512  (where "sdx"" is the value of the usb stick)
[02:24] <fallore> squinty, i think i figured it out, thanks. my issue now is that the iso is larger than the usb :C i should've checked that first lol
[02:25] <squinty> fallore,  :-)
[02:32] <leeand00> http://askubuntu.com/questions/652807/why-does-the-other-acl-permission-have-to-be-set-to-read-and-exectute-to-a
[02:36] <leeand00> How do I use ACLs on a directory without allowing all the other groups to access the files? http://askubuntu.com/questions/652807/using-acl-permissions-without-allowing-other-groups-to-access-a-directory
[02:37] <mgolisch> leeand00: you cant access the files?
[02:37] <mgolisch> like cat /path/file doesnt work?
[02:39] <teward> leeand00: well, don't give the users +r on the files.  +x is needed to traverse the directory and 'see' what is in the directory.  whether people can actually read the files or not, that's other perm controls on the files themselves.
[02:39] <teward> leeand00: you also haven't stated what your 'goal' is.
[02:46] <fallore> im going to be doing a startup repair on my win7 partition soon and i'm worried about it overwriting grub or something like that. is there anything i should know before i get started?
[02:48] <wileee> fallore, Probably wont but that is an easy fix.
[02:48] <fallore> ok wileee thanks for the confidence :)
[02:48] <Raulwynn> How can I get Steam to launch? I click and it does nothing. when I look into the issue it says I need 32-bit library so I type "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs" but I get this error "Package ia32-libs is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source However the following packages replace it: lib32z1 lib32ncurses5 E: Package
[02:48] <Raulwynn> 'ia32-libs' has no installation candidate"
[02:48] <OerHeks> There is a manual about grub/restore
[02:48] <OerHeks> !grub
[02:48] <teward> Raulwynn: ia32-libs was replaced with multiarch support
[02:49] <teward> !multiarch | Raulwynn
[02:49] <teward> bah
[02:49] <Raulwynn> I have just switched to Linux from windows. I'm sick of Microsoft but this is been an all day thing. What does that mean?
[02:49] <teward> older packages which were using ia32-libs are outdated, so you should check and see what version of Ubuntu you have, and what 'version' of the Steam package is being installed...
[02:49] <OerHeks> steam help > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[02:50] <Raulwynn> Okay so where do I start?
[02:50] <teward> Raulwynn: go to that link that OerHeks just gave you, it helps.
[02:50] <Raulwynn> I've done more in the terminal today than I have ever done before
[02:51] <wileee> it will get easier with time give it 6 months
[02:51] <fallore> does it feel good? :)
[02:51] <fallore> make sure you set your font color to green and your background to black in terminal, so you can feel like you're in the matrix.
[02:51] <Raulwynn> It feels like I want to play my damned skyrim and fallout lol
[02:51] <squinty> Raulwynn,  fwiw, there is also   #ubuntu-steam   (though not many participant here right now)
[02:51] <fallore> i feel your pain Raulwynn. stick with it! there's also #steamlug which has been helpful for me today
[02:52] <Raulwynn> For some reason Dell discontinued support for windows 7 for my machine
[02:52] <Raulwynn> And magically, the new windows update messed everything up and now I cannot update or it dies.
[02:52] <wileee> you can upgrade to 8 and 10 free I think
[02:53] <Raulwynn> Yeah marketing gimmick.
[02:53] <fallore> is anyone able to make sense of this fix: http://dpaste.com/221QDPA#wrap found here: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Counter-Strike-Global-Offensive/issues/44 ? i would like to do what he did but have no idea how
[02:53] <Raulwynn> I'm done with microsoft.
[02:53] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, unfortunately it appears those two games are windows only
[02:53] <OerHeks> Raulwynn, we believe you :-)
[02:53] <wileee> fair enough, I rarely use it but it has it's niche here
[02:54] <Raulwynn> I will run in wine.
[02:54] <wileee> it's like face jumping all danger ;)
[02:54] <mgolisch> gaming on linux sucks
[02:54] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, okay didn't see the whole conversation but wanted to let you know
[02:54] <wafflejock> mgolisch, it's gotten much better
[02:54] <Raulwynn> Yeah :) I appriciate it.
[02:54] <mgolisch> wafflejock: realy?
[02:55] <Raulwynn> Windows OS alone uses 1/3 of my videocard.
[02:55] <mgolisch> theres probably not even 10% of games on steam that work natively on linux
[02:55] <Raulwynn> Im sure with that back, linux won't be that bad.
[02:55] <wafflejock> mgolisch, yeah I have bioshock infinite and KSP and a few other games that are pretty modern... there's some company that's been porting a lot of stuff over though
[02:55] <mgolisch> why steam on linux if i cant play any games?
[02:55] <wafflejock> http://store.steampowered.com/search/?term=&sort_by=_ASC&os=linux&page=1
[02:55] <fallore> mgolisch, i pretty much only play csgo and dota 2, and both of those work pretty damn well out of the box :)
[02:55] <Raulwynn> Borderlands..
[02:56] <Raulwynn> I'm down.
[02:56] <Raulwynn> So it's telling me that ia32-libs is NOT req for x86_64 so where is this issue coming from?
[02:57] <mgolisch> did you read the next sentence?
[02:57] <Raulwynn> Yes
[02:57] <Raulwynn> and I'm thinking it is a nvidia problem?
[02:57] <Raulwynn> i'm getting a nouveau missing driver?
[02:58] <Raulwynn> the only thing nouveau on here is the generic nvidia driver.
[02:58] <Raulwynn> Okay lets take this adventure in that direction.
[02:58] <mgolisch> do you have the nvidia driver installed?
[02:58] <Raulwynn> I've had a hard time with that on here. How do I install a .run driver?
[02:58] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, don't do that
[02:58] <mgolisch> not sure if steam works with nouveau
[02:59] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, just use the additional drivers dialog
[02:59] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, hit winkey for the dash and type additional drivers
[02:59] <prosodyContext> fallore: nah, mwatrix is pink 4mwy ubuntu ( <3 ) )) ) https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/09R02esa/Screenshot%20from%202015-07-25%2022%3A56%3A58.png
[02:59] <Raulwynn> I'm so efking lost.
[02:59] <fallore> was that meant for me, prosodyContext ?
[02:59] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, you'll get a dialog where you can select to use the proprietary drivers but they've been vetted by the ubuntu team so less likely to have problems
[03:00] <Raulwynn> So I'm not going to be using up to date drivers?
[03:00] <prosodyContext> fallore: "22:51:32 <fallore> make sure you set your font color to green and your background to black in terminal, so you can feel like you're in the matrix."
[03:00] <fallore> oh lol! i get it now prosodyContext :) cute
[03:00] <fallore> i was not seeing the forest for the trees :)
[03:00] <prosodyContext> =)) <3 <3 <3
[03:00] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, they won't be the latest most of the time no, but if you aren't getting any benefits from the latest or worse it makes your system unstable then that doesn't help
[03:00] <Raulwynn> Right. I see.
[03:01] <Raulwynn> So I see about 30 drivers I COULD use.
[03:01] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, should only be like 3 or 4 typically I think, the open source or a few of the last versions from nvidia
[03:01] <fallore> Raulwynn, you can use this as a guide https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/533434/linux/current-graphics-driver-releases/
[03:02] <fallore> but, Raulwynn, if you can install it through the software manager it would probably be easier. just to figure out which one you want.
[03:02] <Raulwynn> Oky spinning head.
[03:02] <Raulwynn> Lets step back
[03:02] <prosodyContext> fallore: ftr for a funducational tangent, sadly www.matrix.org isn't yet connected to Empathy or telepathy or libpurple for that matter.
[03:03] <oem> ???
[03:03] <Raulwynn> So Legacy releases for GeForce 6 and 7 series GPUs
[03:03] <Raulwynn> Current official release: 304.125 (x86 / x86_64) I want 304.125?
[03:03] <fallore> prosodyContext, FTR = ?
[03:03] <prosodyContext> for the record == ftr, fallore
[03:03] <fallore> doh
[03:04] <prosodyContext> >:))
[03:04] <prosodyContext> omlg oh my log god how could u not even.. ;)
[03:05] <Raulwynn> define vetted
[03:06] <Raulwynn> Aside from sticking it to microsoft like me. What is the main reason people switch to Linux?
[03:07] <Guest26052> ...........
[03:07] <Guest26052> 有人在吗..
[03:07] <Guest26052> ???
[03:08] <Guest26052> ..........
[03:08] <OerHeks> !cn | Guest26052
[03:08] <Guest26052> ~~~~~~~~~
[03:09] <OerHeks> Raulwynn, you cannot buy it :-)
[03:09] <Guest26052> 嗨起来
[03:09] <Raulwynn> I understand this.
[03:09] <prosodyContext> Open source defaults to vetted mayhaps, Raulwynn
[03:09] <Guest26052> hello
[03:10] <Raulwynn> I'm weighing the pros and cons.
[03:10] <Raulwynn> What does vetted mean? I'm dumb I know but I'm trying to learn.
[03:11] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, vetted checked over and given approval basically, but with regard to reasons to use Linux vs Windows for me I'm a web developer and I can get all the tools I need to use on Linux easier than on Windows (nodejs server side components etc.) and it's overall just faster and a better experience for me, it varies from person to person though
[03:11] <tonyyarusso> Raulwynn: Checked, examined, verified
[03:11] <prosodyContext> Research and development peer review is about vetting to some degree, how much you can read is of course important to open source. But it takes expertise and technical literacy (or biteracy..) to really Trust Network if thats what you're wanting. Stable does not necessarily mean mature, that kinda sorta thing problem solving.
[03:12] <fallore> if you vetted a car for your gf it would mean that you checked it out for her
[03:12] <KVK_black> ~`
[03:12] <KVK_black> where are you form?
[03:13] <KVK_black> ????
[03:13] <KVK_black> 为什么不说话..
[03:13] <KVK_black> 嗨起来
[03:13] <xangua> !ot | KVK_black
[03:13] <KVK_black> high
[03:13] <KVK_black> 嗨起来
[03:14] <Raulwynn> Alright. I got the right driver for my darned thing now I'm getting this "Running Steam on ubuntu 15. 64-bit STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(0) Xlib:  extension "NV-GLX" missing on display ":0"." and it's just sitting there
[03:14] <KVK_black> 嗨起来
[03:14] <KVK_black> 嗨起来
[03:14] <KVK_black> 嗨起来
[03:14] <KVK_black> 嗨起来
[03:14] <KVK_black> 嗨起来
[03:14] <Raulwynn> I may need to restart?
[03:14] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, you restart after driver
[03:14] <wafflejock> yeah
[03:14] <Raulwynn> hahahahaha
[03:14] <Raulwynn> I saw that coming
[03:14] <wafflejock> hehe
[03:14] <Raulwynn> Be right back.
[03:17] <KVK_black> hello
[03:19] <Raulwynn> Is it common to see a ADSP-219x error?
[03:20] <Raulwynn> Oh my lawdie. It's working!
[03:20] <Raulwynn> I would like to ask. Is dealing with tech mishaps worth saving a few hundred switching to Linux?
[03:23] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: I wouldn't switch to Linux just because it's cheaper.
[03:24] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: There are many reasons to switch to Linux, but I don't believe that price should be a factor
[03:25] <bashfr3ak> Raulwynn if you don't play games Linux is better than Windows/OSX in every way
[03:26] <tgm4883> bashfr3ak: I play games and I still find it better
[03:26] <bashfr3ak> tgm4883 could you play blizzard games on it ? properly?
[03:26] <tgm4883> bashfr3ak: but you're incorrect. It's not better in every way
[03:27] <notaeon> just check hardware is supported before you buy anything and don't expect any official linux support for most things
[03:27] <tgm4883> bashfr3ak: I've played starcraft 2 on it just fine
[03:27] <bashfr3ak> I am a little bias, but to my POV it is better.
[03:27] <RaulAndroid> Okay. So i have installed a nvidia driver and now i cantvgetvthe compy to bood.
[03:27] <bashfr3ak> tgm4883 doubt it was optimal ....
[03:27] <bashfr3ak> tgm4883 also you can't play like Heroes of the storm on it
[03:27] <tgm4883> bashfr3ak: I'm not sure what your angle is here
[03:28] <RaulAndroid> ACPI PCC probe failed. And /dev/sdd like 8 different ones say no medium found
[03:28] <bashfr3ak> tgm4883 why do you think Linux is not superior in every way ?
[03:28] <RaulAndroid> Howvto i get back on?
[03:28] <tgm4883> bashfr3ak: driver support for one
[03:29] <bashfr3ak> tgm4883 And?
[03:29] <tgm4883> bashfr3ak: well you said yourself, game support
[03:30] <bashfr3ak> tgm4883 welp i guess if you don't like to do some google searching and configuration you could have some driver issues, but that will die soon
[03:30] <notaeon> RaulAndroid: some stuff http://askubuntu.com/questions/613969/acpi-ppc-probe-failed-starting-version-219-nvidia
[03:31] <tgm4883> bashfr3ak: again, I'm not sure what your angle is. All operating systems have their strengths and their flaws. Blindly following something leads to trouble
[03:32] <bashfr3ak> tgm4883 Windows and OSX are abominations with more flaws than advantages
[03:32] <tgm4883> bashfr3ak: use the right tool for the job.
[03:32] <bazhang> bashfr3ak, were there some support questions in there
[03:33] <notaeon> guys the original asker has left
[03:33] <RaulAndroid> Tells me to change a file but i cant get it to boot.
[03:34] <bazhang> RaulAndroid, what does
[03:34] <notaeon> RaulAndroid: can you get to grub though?
[03:34] <bashfr3ak> tgm4883 i can have all the tools i need with Linux. I can have a fully working office for free, the best enterprise server options and dev environment on linux. while still having access to pretty much all basic desktop stuff for free on Linux without a GUI full of straight up BS and not even worry about adware, viruses, etc
[03:34] <notaeon> RaulAndroid: try an old kernel if you can
[03:35] <bazhang> bashfr3ak, this is not the channel for that
[03:35] <bashfr3ak> bazhang k, sorry
[03:35] <tgm4883> bashfr3ak: I'd be happy to continue this conversation with you if you want in #ubuntu-offtopic but they are correct, this is OT for this channel
[03:35] <bazhang> try #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux bashfr3ak
[03:35] <combatcrab> Is there a realatively easy way to switch the wallpaper for the 15.04 login screen? I've used "sudo nautilus" to change the background from user/share/backgrounds, but this does nothing.
[03:38] <TechMonger> what is the hot key to change the terminals collors?
[03:38] <RaulAndroid> So my terminal wont pull anythingvup i cantcseem to edit the file...
[03:38] <RaulAndroid> How do i modify grub?
[03:42] <wileee> RaulAndroid, the grub2 manual is on line, it's all there.
[03:42] <RaulAndroid> Okay. I got it.
[03:43] <Raulwynn> So far so good. I'm online @wileee This is ubuntu support, no?
[03:44] <bazhang> !grub2 | Raulwynn have a read
[03:44] <Raulwynn> I'm good now
[03:44] <Raulwynn> I'm on the computer,
[03:44] <Raulwynn> I reloaded through grub.
[03:44] <notaeon> TechMonger: change colors how do you mean? the only way i've changed colors is by modifying .Xdefaults
[03:45] <wileee> RaulAndroid, Personally I just put an image behind grub that is fairly simple.
[03:45] <TechMonger> notaeon i want to be able to swich profiles with hotkeys
[03:46] <TechMonger> so when i have open multiple terminals i can have them different colors
[03:48] <TechMonger> also. i installed ubuntu on another machine and it does not make the folders different colors that the files. anyone know why this is? and how to get it do to that
[03:48] <TechMonger> than^
[03:48] <TechMonger> sorry i am tired
[03:49] <tonyyarusso> TechMonger: Do you mean in ls output?
[03:49] <TechMonger> yes
[03:50] <tonyyarusso> TechMonger: --color
[03:50] <TechMonger> nevermind
[03:50] <TechMonger> he was using dir
[03:50] <TechMonger> not ls
[03:51] <TechMonger> but does anyone know a hot key to change terminal profiles?
[03:53] <wafflejock> TechMonger, not directly but you can use setterm to set various options and could put a setterm call in an executable script then call it with a hotkey
[03:55] <TechMonger> i could have swore i seen my co worker open different terminals that were different colors
[03:55] <TechMonger> and he did it fast
[03:55] <wafflejock> TechMonger, depends on the terminal wrapper application I imagine to some degree too
[03:55] <wafflejock> TechMonger, like Konsole or Guake or whatever will have different hotkeys
[03:56] <TechMonger> hmm
[03:56] <wafflejock> TechMonger, I did the setterm thing in my .bashrc on a server so when I login it changes the terminal text and background and used .bash_logout to switch it back
[03:57] <TechMonger> its not worth that much to me
[03:57] <TechMonger> i guess ill just manualy change the profile
[03:57] <wafflejock> TechMonger, yeah not a huge deal someone asked the other day about it though so I gave it a shot
[03:57] <TechMonger> yea thx
[03:57] <RaulAndroid> Computer crashed after Fatal Error when steam tried updating after start up.
[03:58] <RaulAndroid> What does i8k unable to get smm dell signature?
[03:59] <wafflejock> RaulAndroid, one sec
[03:59] <wafflejock> RaulAndroid, looks like some kernel problem maybe but these are older posts
[04:00] <wafflejock> RaulAndroid, you on Ubuntu 14.04 ? or some other version?
[04:00] <RaulAndroid> 14.04
[04:00] <RaulAndroid> Fresh install today. Been having videocard issues too.
[04:01] <wafflejock> RaulAndroid, not sure this post is for 15.04 but might be related... trying to do some digging though never seen that problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/650164/unable-to-get-smm-dell-signature
[04:04] <RaulAndroid> @wafflejock ive completely reinstalled ubuntu and everything to get this going.
[04:04] <wafflejock> RaulAndroid, it appears it has something to do with the temperature sensors and fan control but nothing definitive so far on how to fix
[04:04] <RaulAndroid> What?
[04:04] <wafflejock> the i8k error
[04:04] <rakesh> does anyone have idea about?
[04:04] <RaulAndroid> Temperature sensors ahh okay
[04:05] <Guest70173> Ign http://au.archive.ubuntu.com vivid-backports/universe Translation-en_AU
[04:05] <Guest70173> Err http://au.archive.ubuntu.com vivid/main Sources 503  Service unavailable
[04:05] <Guest70173> Err http://au.archive.ubuntu.com vivid/restricted Sources
[04:05] <Guest70173> Can anyone advice on this, help would be appreciated
[04:05] <xangua> change to main repository or try later Guest70173
[04:16] <Miar> Hi, I am having a problem with Ubuntu. Could someone help me out?
[04:17] <tgm4883> RaulAndroid: yes the i8k stuff is for reading dell temperture sensors and fan controls
[04:19] <Raulwynn> @tgm4883 Is this something to be concerned about?
[04:19] <Raulwynn> I force all fans to 100% via bios
[04:20] <Miar> I have GNOME, Unity and KDE on Ubuntu. GNOME and Unity work fine. But when I launch KDE, it hangs after around 2 mins. Also unable to logout from kde or launch the terminal.
[04:20] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: where are you seeing this error?
[04:20] <combatcrab> 15.04 How can I change the background of the login screen? Using "sudo nautilus" and changing the background from user/share/backgrounds doesn't seem to work.
[04:21] <escobar> combatcrab: probably up to lightdm's /etc/ config
[04:23] <Raulwynn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11940173/
[04:24] <Raulwynn> line 882
[04:24] <Raulwynn> 822
[04:25] <combatcrab> @escobar Thanks, I'll check that out.
[04:25] <Raulwynn> So now I think my video drivers are good...
[04:25] <combatcrab> escobar thanks, I'll check that out.
[04:26] <escobar> Raulwynn: nice
[04:26] <Raulwynn> Steam still won't launch giving me a fatal error, Where do I go from here?
[04:26] <escobar> egrep -ilr 'background|wallpaper' /etc/lightd*
[04:27] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: IDK if it's an issue. What is the fatal error?
[04:27] <Raulwynn> I'm replicating issue, please hold.
[04:28] <wafflejock> tgm4883, he'd been trying to just update Steam and the system crashed just trying to determine exactly why I believe
[04:28] <Raulwynn> Failed to load steamui.so
[04:30] <tgm4883> I don't think I've seen that error in a long time
[04:30] <escobar> I've never seen it =)
[04:31] <tgm4883> I want to say it was a graphics driver issue, but I don't recall
[04:32] <Raulwynn> I just fixed the driver after 4 hours it isn't that
[04:33] <Raulwynn> the only errors that i'm getting (i can't remember the command) is the i8k whatever one but i use bios to force fans to 100% all the time anyway.
[04:33] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, no some other problem looks like some missing dependencies or something did you install steam using the ubuntu software center
[04:33] <TechMonger> what options do you use with rsync?
[04:33] <Raulwynn> Yeah. lemme try again. How to I completely uninstall everything
[04:33] <escobar> TechMonger: me? I use --awesomeness
[04:33] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: have you tried 'steam --reset'
[04:33] <TechMonger> lol
[04:34] <TechMonger> i was asking everyone
[04:34] <Raulwynn> lemme try
[04:34] <escobar> TechMonger: I use -a most of the time
[04:34] <escobar> -av if it's not going to be a very long one
[04:34] <escobar> (as -v slows things)
[04:34] <Raulwynn> How do I do that?
[04:34] <escobar> throw in -P for things I want to resume
[04:34] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: do what?
[04:34] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, can just run that steam command at the terminal
[04:34] <escobar> and --delete can be nice, --exclude, etc.
[04:34] <Raulwynn> I did...
[04:34] <Raulwynn> command not found
[04:35] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, something got botched in your steam install probably when it clipped off in the middle of the update
[04:35] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: uh, you get command not found when you try to run steam from the terminal?
[04:35] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, you can do, sudo apt-get install steam --reinstall
[04:35] <AppAraat> hi, is anyone else having trouble with bash completion when they switched to 14.04 from 12.04?
[04:35] <Raulwynn> It's running an update now I guess it worked lol
[04:35] <Raulwynn> Failed with same error
[04:36] <Raulwynn> Okay now to complete uninstall
[04:36] <Raulwynn> sudo apt-get purge steam-launcher && sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:36] <Raulwynn> Right?
[04:37] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, should just be steam not steam-launcher I believe
[04:37] <Raulwynn> Okay
[04:37] <tgm4883> that would just get rid of the steam-launcher. To remove steam, you actually would need to blow away the files in your home directory
[04:37] <wafflejock> tgm4883, purge should do that no?
[04:37] <wafflejock> purge typically deletes config as well
[04:38] <wafflejock> or is that not true with steam data?
[04:38] <Raulwynn> How can I check the file directory and tell?
[04:38] <tgm4883> wafflejock: god I hope not. Even with a purge it should never touch files in your home directory
[04:38] <Raulwynn> to make sure its gone
[04:39] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, in your home directory ~ in the command line you'll see a .steam folder
[04:39] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, so if you cd ~/.steam
[04:39] <wafflejock> you can ls and see files in there
[04:40] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, if you want to use the regular file browser you can show hidden files believe it's Ctrl+H in the default file browser or Ctrl+.
[04:40] <mgolisch> wow looks like gaming on linux works realy well
[04:40] <mgolisch> :)
[04:40] <escobar> yup
[04:40] <wafflejock> mgolisch, heh well I haven't had problems
[04:40] <escobar> games have lower hardware reqs for Unix systems
[04:40] <wafflejock> mgolisch, funny thing is too I have a GTX670
[04:40] <wafflejock> and Raulwynn has a GTX660
[04:40] <Raulwynn> So Should I delete the .steam folder, everything is still in it.
[04:41] <escobar> could always mv it
[04:41] <wafflejock> yeah moving is typically a better call just in case you need something in it for whatever reason... can just mv ~/.steam ~/.steam_bak
[04:41] <tgm4883> depends on if you want to save anything (game saves, etc)
[04:41] <Raulwynn> Yeah I know my hardware can handle it. I used to play WoW on a friends ubuntu with an old pentium 4 and a gt9800 videocard
[04:42] <wafflejock> mgolisch, and compared with before Steam it's a lot better
[04:42] <Raulwynn> I just installed Ubuntu today I don't need anything
[04:42] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, can blow it away then with rm -rf ~/.steam
[04:43] <Raulwynn> Okay.
[04:43] <wafflejock> always careful with that command deletes everything under a folder which can be pretty destructive if misdirected
[04:43] <Raulwynn> Done
[04:43] <Raulwynn> Now what is the correct way to install Steam?
[04:43] <cfhowlett> Raulwynn, software center
[04:43] <Raulwynn> Check
[04:43] <Raulwynn> Hold that thought
[04:44] <Raulwynn> Not found
[04:44] <cfhowlett> Raulwynn, you have to enable the multiverse repos.
[04:44] <Raulwynn> Oh lawrdie.
[04:44] <Raulwynn> I'm so sorry for my insolence.
[04:44] <Raulwynn> How might one do this?
[04:44] <cfhowlett> Raulwynn, errr .... "ignorance" :)
[04:44] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, don't worry just terminology it's just a checkbox
[04:44] <cfhowlett> easy.  wait 1 for me to mirror the process
[04:45] <Raulwynn> C) All of the above
[04:45] <Raulwynn> @waffle Oh
[04:45] <mathi> .
[04:46] <cfhowlett> Raulwynn, system > software updater > edit > software sources > Other software > independent
[04:46] <cfhowlett> might enable the partners repos on the same page as well
[04:47] <Raulwynn> Wait... I'm so lost
[04:47] <Raulwynn> Give me a second
[04:48] <Raulwynn> They're all checked now
[04:48] <Raulwynn> Updating cache
[04:48] <xheart> hi everyone,
[04:48] <cfhowlett> Raulwynn, right.  now search again
[04:48] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, okay yeah it'll get the list of new stuff it can install from those places you checked off
[04:48] <wafflejock> like cfhowlett said just search again and should be good
[04:49] <xheart> i am using 12.10 but on certain website i get this >> n error occurred during a connection to vegapccoop.com. SSL received a weak ephemeral Diffie-Hellman key in Server Key Exchange handshake message. (Error code: ssl_error_weak_server_ephemeral_dh_key)
[04:49] <Raulwynn> Not found again
[04:49] <cfhowlett> !12.10 | xheart
[04:49] <cfhowlett> Raulwynn, close software center and open a terminal
[04:49] <cfhowlett> Raulwynn, sudo apt-get update
[04:50] <xheart> the 14.10 really messed up my old pc
[04:50] <cfhowlett> xheart, yeah, but 12.10 has NO security and NO updates.
[04:50] <tgm4883> and no support
[04:51] <xangua> xheart: if you have an old/limited resources machine you should check xubuntu/lubuntu
[04:51] <Raulwynn> It tells me... hold on
[04:51] <xangua> just because your computer it's old doesn't mean you should use an old unsupported release
[04:52] <Raulwynn> This is when I try to update
[04:52] <xheart> getting lubuntu will erase my current files?
[04:52] <Raulwynn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11940253/
[04:52] <Raulwynn> That was useless hold on
[04:52] <cfhowlett> xheart, if you format your /home - yes.
[04:53] <Raulwynn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11940256/
[04:55] <cfhowlett> Raulwynn, looks good.   now sudo apt-get install steam
[04:56] <Raulwynn> I love you guys. You know how much microsoft would have charged for this kind of help?
[04:56] <cfhowlett> Raulwynn, that's the beauty of opensource communities, amigo
[04:56] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: to be fair, there are similiar places to get help with windows
[04:56] <Raulwynn> I agree
[04:57] <xheart> can i upgrade from 12.10 to 15.04 or 15.10?
[04:57] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | xheart, 15.10 isn't even out yet
[04:57] <Raulwynn> But even amidst all of my chaos, this was still easier and quicker.I spent weeks on microsoft and I've gotten further in one day doing it on here.
[04:57] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: not to beat a dead horse, but there are windows support IRC channels as well
[04:57] <cfhowlett> xheart, in other words, yes, 12.10 > 13.04 > 13.10 > 14.04 (RECOMMENDED)
[04:58]  * AppAraat is re-installing Ubuntu minimal.
[04:58] <tgm4883> and then stay on 14.05
[04:58] <AppAraat> wish me luck
[04:58] <tgm4883> 14.04
[04:58] <mgolisch> and i bet installing steam there would have been easier..
[04:58] <Raulwynn> I bet you would never guess what error I just got.
[04:58] <cfhowlett> xheart, OR you can avoid the incremental pain by clean installing 14.04 which is LongTermSupport
[04:58] <cfhowlett> Raulwynn, just say it
[04:58] <mgolisch> probably the same?
[04:59] <Raulwynn> Fatal Error: Failed to load steamui.so
[04:59] <Raulwynn> I got a lot further though.
[04:59] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: yea, I figured you would get that error
[04:59] <cfhowlett> Raulwynn, wait, what?  from sudo apt-get install steam?
[04:59] <Raulwynn> Yes.
[05:00] <Raulwynn> Could this still be some screwy setting from my videocard? How can I tell what is doing this?
[05:00] <cfhowlett> Raulwynn, huh.  no idea what that error is as it's from steam, not ubuntu.  BUT   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will solve many issues you are likely to face.  also: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:00] <baash05> Hey guys..
[05:00] <baash05> I'm attempting to install the wifi drivers for a macpro
[05:01] <baash05> I got no ethernet..
[05:01] <baash05> I'm wondering if anyone knows what DEB files I'll need.
[05:01] <cfhowlett> !mac | baash05
[05:02] <jamesd_> the network is the computer... no network, just a paperweight ;-)
[05:02] <Raulwynn> Okay I ran those and still no luck with steam. Ill try a reboot again for the why nots of it
[05:03] <coca_koala> hello friends
[05:03] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, if you google on that error lots of posts about various missing dependencies being the possible culprit but not sure
[05:03] <mgolisch> if it says it cant load a shared object you are probably missing some libraries it needs
[05:03] <baash05> ubottu: They don't have my mac on the list
[05:04] <Raulwynn> Yeah I seen that.
[05:04] <Raulwynn> I've been going through them here and there
[05:04] <cfhowlett> !wifi | baash05
[05:04] <xheart> do i need to create a DVD to upgrade from 12.10 lts to 14.04 or if a newer version?
[05:05] <Raulwynn> I have all of the steam dependencies so far.
[05:05] <cfhowlett> !steam | Raulwynn for more info
[05:06] <astronight> hey everyone
[05:07] <OerHeks> xheart, that is the best advise, to have an iso ready. always handy when your system is wrecked after upgrade.
[05:07] <cfhowlett> xheart, of if your system supports USB boot, make a stick
[05:08] <cfhowlett> and 12.10 isn't / wasn't EVER an LTS release
[05:08] <ObrienDave> 12.04 was
[05:12] <Raulwynn> Lets try something new for a minute.
[05:12] <Raulwynn> Uhm. WineHQ
[05:12] <Raulwynn> Where would I start?
[05:12] <SuperLag> When I do a ls on /home, I see the users' dirs there, and all but one of them show up blue. The other one is blue lettering, but highlighted green. What does that mean?
[05:12] <cfhowlett> wine?  for what?
[05:13] <Raulwynn> Office 2013
[05:13] <SuperLag> Raulwynn: why? you can do all that from a browser. Problem solved.
[05:13] <cfhowlett> Raulwynn, !libreoffice
[05:13] <Strldent> Anyone willing to help me
[05:14] <AppAraat> !ask
[05:14] <Strldent> I am trying to run a command on xinit but it is not working when i place the command in .xinitrc or .Xsession
[05:14] <OerHeks> Strldent, just ask, wait and see
[05:14] <Raulwynn> @cfhowlett It's for work. I need office
[05:14] <Raulwynn> Trust me I don't like it
[05:14] <Strldent> i need to run "compiz --replace" upon xinit
[05:16] <cfhowlett> Raulwynn, my understanding is that 2010 is much more wine friendly than 2013.  HOWEVER >>> ubuntu + virtualbox + MS windows + MS Office might be a better solution
[05:16] <AppAraat> Strldent: I think you also need to specify the DISPLAY property with that command.
[05:17] <Strldent> how so
[05:17] <Strldent> i dont mean to be such a noob, i am just not familliar
[05:18] <Strldent> i am trying to learn, i have googled how to run a command on xinit on google and all i could find is it telling me to add it to xinitrc or xsession
[05:18] <OerHeks> Strldent, if you need to run it once, after login, ~/.profile should do the trick
[05:18] <tgm4883> Strldent: why do you need to run that upon xinit?
[05:18] <Strldent> because I have compiz window decorations and it doesnt work until i type "compiz --replace" in a terminal, after that compiz effects work
[05:19] <coca_koala> bazhang, is it a forever ban? lol
[05:19] <AppAraat> not sure myself, but it needs to know on which display it has to take effect. Since you can have multiple DEs running concurrently at different displays, you need to specify which you want.
[05:19] <coca_koala> also i was gonna add something :3
[05:19] <Strldent> so put DISPLAY= VGA-0 compiz  --replace?
[05:20] <Strldent> in arch linux i always just edit .xinitrc and add it at the bottom of the script and pkill -15 Xorg and it works after that
[05:20] <AppAraat> if you echo $DISPLAY it will tell you which display you're on.
[05:21] <AppAraat> so in my case it would be DISPLAY=:0
[05:21] <Strldent> strident@Strident:~$ echo $DISPLAY output is : :0.0
[05:22] <Strldent> so im not familliar with this type of syntax, do i add it to xinitrc or xsession? and what do i put? DISPLAY-:0.0 compiz --replace?
[05:22] <AppAraat> so in your case it would be DISPLAY=:0.0
[05:23] <AppAraat> did you see what OerHeks said, Strldent ?
[05:24] <Strldent> I didnt catch that i just put it there, ill log out and see brb
[05:25] <baash05> ubottu: The wifi docs have very old instructions.
[05:25] <baash05> Ha ha
[05:25] <xheart> can i use 14.04 from a usb stick?
[05:26] <ObrienDave> yes
[05:26] <baash05> Hey.. I'm trying to get ubuntu working on a mac book pro
[05:27] <baash05> How can I get the wifi drivers working?
[05:28] <astronight> baash05: I installed ubuntu on my macbook air two days ago, it works perfectly well.
[05:28] <baash05> Really.. I just tried and I got no wifi
[05:28] <astronight> I had the same problem
[05:28] <OerHeks> baash05, go into restricted drivers, or sudo ubuntu-drivers list
[05:29] <astronight> give me a minute
[05:29] <OerHeks> or use sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall  # this is the fastest way to get them ( all )
[05:30] <baash05> Would that require internet?
[05:30] <OerHeks> baash05, Yes.
[05:30] <baash05> So... given I got no wifi
[05:30] <Strldent> yeah
[05:30] <Strldent> i put it into .profile
[05:30] <OerHeks> baash05, no wired lan available?
[05:30] <baash05> Nope..
[05:30] <Strldent> and then when i re log it is just a black screen
[05:30] <baash05> no cables
[05:31] <astronight> sudo apt-get update / sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[05:31] <AppAraat> http://apaste.info/WkM - This is my .bashrc - can anyone please comment on why my bash completion is broken on 14.04? When I do ll .tmux for example, it doesn't complete (there is .tmux.conf and .tmux/) also when I try to ll /etc/ it doesn't complete the files and dirs there.
[05:31] <ObrienDave> so how are you chatting here?
[05:31] <Strldent> me?
[05:31] <baash05> different computer.. with wifi
[05:31] <AppAraat> Strldent: have you rebooted?
[05:31] <astronight> baash05: use this one sudo apt-get update     then      sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[05:31] <Strldent> yes
[05:32] <Strldent> is there a way to just put it in a local file and call it a service
[05:32] <OerHeks> no internet, no updates, no drivers :-(... there is however an offline way to get them..
[05:32] <OerHeks> !offline
[05:32] <Strldent> or does that only run before x inits
[05:32] <astronight> I hooked my macbook air with bluetooth connection, then I did the whole thing.
[05:32] <baash05> I'm looking for the offline way :)
[05:32] <OerHeks> astronight +1, baash05 do you have bt on both machines?
[05:33] <baash05> I suppose the mac has bt.
[05:33] <astronight> ok then
[05:33] <baash05> this box does not.
[05:33] <Strldent> do i have to put "exec compiz --replace" in xinitrc or just the compiz --replace, thats how it worked in arch
[05:33] <astronight> turn on the hotspot on your phone
[05:34] <astronight> pair your computer with your phone via bluetooth
[05:34] <astronight> you should be able to connect now
[05:34] <AppAraat> yeah try "exec DISPLAY-:0.0 compiz --replace" or just "compiz --replace" in one of those files.
[05:34] <AppAraat> Strldent: ^
[05:34] <baash05> Is there an offline way?
[05:34] <Strldent> - OR =
[05:35] <astronight> I've done it with bluetooth connectivity
[05:35] <Strldent> is it a hyphen or equals
[05:36] <legend> Is rar file recovery possible in ubuntu?
[05:36] <Strldent> im sorry for being such a noob guys, your help is greatly appreciated. i know one of you wants to throw something at me by now lol
[05:36] <AppAraat> Strldent: DISPLAY=:0.0
[05:36] <AppAraat> no worries, linux can only be learned by repeated failure.
[05:37] <Strldent> i know
[05:37] <Strldent> i built an LFS, took me 4 months to get it right lmfao
[05:37] <ObrienDave> *looks for a LARGE book* ;P
[05:37] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, "harry potter" volumes 1 - 8
[05:38] <Strldent> so under xinitrc, put the line "exec DISPLAY=:0.0 compiz --replace" right after . /etc/X11/Xsession then right??
[05:38] <ObrienDave> *digs through the room rubble* ;P
[05:38] <Strldent> let me hastebin this for you
[05:38] <legend> I have a rar file of size 6 GB. But i can see only 2 GB of contents inside. Is it possible to extract raw image ?
[05:38] <Strldent> http://hastebin.com/edopacojus.bash like this?
[05:39] <Strldent> or do it in Xsession. I am so confused in the ubuntu world. Arch linux is so simple lol
[05:40] <ObrienDave> only because you're used to it ;P
[05:41] <OerHeks> legend, governments are not allowed to use .rar, as it can easily contain a payload of stuff. but to answer you:
[05:41] <OerHeks> Extracting with unrar and the keep broken extracted files option sometimes works, but it depends on the archive contents. >> unrar x -kb example.rar
[05:43] <Strldent> http://hastebin.com/edopacojus.bash should this work?
[05:43] <Strldent> should i be putting this in xsession or xinitrc
[05:44] <Strldent> i see here in xinitrc the only line says it calls /etc/X11/Xsession
[05:44] <Harley> hello, everyone
[05:45] <AppAraat> Strldent: why not just try it?
[05:45] <Strldent> will do. sorry guys
[05:46] <Strldent> <--- noooooooooob
[05:46] <AppAraat> hi Harley
[05:46] <Harley> Hi, are you from China ?
[05:47] <AppAraat> no
[05:47] <Harley> where?
[05:47] <AppAraat> China is located in Asia.
[05:48] <Fediddy> I need some freaking help.... Im running a Ubunt VPS 14.04. I installed Deluge ,btsync, webmin, and I think thats it. I've tried to upgrade libtorrent but it hasn't worked.. I had a lot of errors. I followed some directions I read on forums which have lead to even more APT-GET erros....  WHAT I DID VERY WRONG!!!! I overwrote the sources.list file.. After adding custom PPA;s....   When I do
[05:48] <Fediddy> "apt-get dist-upgrade" I get, http://pastebin.com/YtrZFiaB .  When I do "apt-get upgrade" I get http://pastebin.com/adrnfHt4
[05:48] <cfhowlett> Harley, all ubuntu users are on earth.  let's move on.
[05:48] <Fediddy> Ubuntu
[05:49] <Donald_ET3> Does anyone here know how to make Ubuntu work with a Wacom Bamboo?
[05:49] <Fediddy> Fuck,, I hope that made some sense.. I drank 2 much !
[05:49] <AppAraat> Fediddy: can you also post your /etc/apt/sources.list file and everything in /etc/apt/sources.d/ ?
[05:49] <Fediddy> yes
[05:49] <cfhowlett> Fediddy, stop the profanity now.
[05:49] <Fediddy> hold on
[05:49] <Fediddy> cf, Its stopped
[05:49] <Fediddy> sorrt
[05:50] <Fediddy> sorry
[05:50] <ra21vi> wow.. nice joke Fediddy
[05:50] <Harley> I'm new here, just a bit curious.
[05:50] <Fediddy> Apparaat, Is there an easy command I can run in putty to provide those texts?
[05:51] <cfhowlett> !manual | Harley
[05:51] <Fediddy> I will use pastebin to not spam the channel
[05:51] <Fediddy> ra21. what joke?
[05:51] <Fediddy> ra. nevermind
[05:51] <ra21vi> Fediddy:)
[05:52] <AppAraat> you can do alias apaste='curl -F '\''paste=<-'\'' http://apaste.info/store'
[05:52] <AppAraat> then you can cat sometextfile | apaste
[05:52] <Fediddy> hold on... let me install winscp
[05:52] <Strldent> okay
[05:52] <Strldent> none of that worked
[05:53] <Fediddy> Thank you for help... AppAraat!
[05:53] <AppAraat> np
[05:53] <AppAraat> Strldent: then I'm not sure what will help. I'm pretty unfamiliar in regards to compiz.
[05:54] <OerHeks> Fediddy, a vps, those are heavily tweaked, get help from your vendor, to get a clean image back/ or sourceslist ... besides, webmin is depreciated ( might be a cause of your issue)
[05:54] <OerHeks> !webmin
[05:55] <Strldent> well, thank you for your time, i appreciate the effort to help greatly
[05:56] <AppAraat> it could be your gfx card problems. 90% of problems here are AFAIK.
[05:56] <Fediddy> AppAraat, sources.list http://pastebin.com/XbHSQvYK ,
[05:58] <Strldent> facepalm
[05:58] <Strldent> gsettings set org.mate.session.required-components windowmanager compiz
[05:58] <Strldent> did the trick
[05:59] <Fediddy> the .d folder.... http://pastebin.com/QVRpqjic   http://pastebin.com/ztVeTaF3  http://pastebin.com/ewq5jTYw
[06:00] <Fediddy> AppAraat, the .d folder links have the file names
[06:00] <AppAraat> that doesn't quite look like stock Ubuntu install
[06:00] <baash05> Hey.
[06:01] <OerHeks> Fediddy, so you are on trusty 14.04, and have extra precise sources, please don't mix versions.
[06:01] <Fediddy> the sources.list file I accidentally delete with an ECHO Deb command I followed on a repair guide... I then realised what I did (Overwrite the Sources.List file with that single REPO....
[06:01] <baash05> I tried to connect my mac-book-pro U_mate15 with a phone via bluetooth.. but I got Bluez daemon is not running
[06:02] <Fediddy> I went on the Ubuntu sources.list generator and created my own... lol
[06:02] <cfhowlett> http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php   Fediddy
[06:02] <baash05> Any thoughts on how to connect to my phone
[06:02] <OerHeks> Fediddy, wild guess: you were on precise, and wanted trusty .. ?
[06:02] <wileee> baash05, Full words and release info please.
[06:02] <Fediddy> AppAraat,, I used cfhowlett recommeneded URL! to generate this new sources.list
[06:03] <cfhowlett> Fediddy, then you should not be seeing trusty AND precise  in your sources.list
[06:03] <Fediddy> OerHeks, I honestly have no idea what I did!!!
[06:03] <baash05> Sorry.. I just download Ubutnu_mate 15.4
[06:04] <baash05> and installed it on a macbook pro(12)
[06:04] <Fediddy> I'm running 14.04
[06:04] <Fediddy> I think
[06:04] <wileee> baash05, Cool, thanks 15.10 is not released yet is all, no biggie.
[06:04] <baash05> I just grabbed the latest.
[06:04] <wileee> you are under support
[06:04] <dhanesh95> 15.04 has limited time support
[06:05] <baash05> cool.. I'm trying to get wifi working and it was suggested I connect to the net via my phone's bluetooth
[06:06] <dhanesh95> @baash05.. I suggest you use 14.04
[06:06] <baash05> 14.04 mate?
[06:06] <baash05> Did't know there was one.
[06:06] <dhanesh95> @baash05.. You can install mate later
[06:07] <dhanesh95> @baash05.. Just replace unity with mate
[06:07] <dhanesh95> @baash05.. You can Google it..
[06:07] <baash05> Yeah.. Why wouldn't 15 have bluetooth?
[06:08] <OerHeks> baash05, i think you have a wifi/bt combo chip, so you will need the driver first.
[06:09] <baash05> DerHeks:  How do I get the drivers?
[06:09] <dhanesh95> @baash05.. Where did you get the distro?
[06:09] <OerHeks> !mac | maybe it is in these mactel pages
[06:09] <AppAraat> question: How am I supposed to approach troubleshooting my webcam? It is a ZC0305 and it is listed as working here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams
[06:09] <baash05> I got 15.. off of the mate site.
[06:09] <AppAraat> when I open skype video call it fills the webcam video area with flashing blue color.
[06:10] <easyOnMe> how do I find where netbeans is installed on my ubuntu and where can I find its equivalent .exe file
[06:10] <dhanesh95> @baash05.. Go with ubottu..
[06:10] <baash05> What?
[06:10] <dhanesh95> He mentioned a link to the community page.. Check it out..
[06:10] <wileee> AppAraat, look at the release and skyoe release in your link.
[06:11] <AppAraat> easyOnMe: if you have Unity desktop environment, just go to the lens (the search function) and type in netbeans. Alternatively fire up a terminal emulator (Ctrl+Alt+t) and type "which netbeans" without the quotes.
[06:11] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: thanks
[06:11] <AppAraat> wileee: yeah I'm running 14.04 x86 with latest skype. Doesn't it mean that it should work?
[06:12] <easyOnMe> which netbeans did not work
[06:12] <baash05> Yeah.. I keep getting pointed to that page.
[06:12] <wileee> AppAraat, You have cheese installed to see if cam works?
[06:12] <baash05> but my mac isn't listed.
[06:12] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: which netbeans did not work
[06:12] <AppAraat> wileee: I was about to install vlc to test webcam. I'll check out cheese.
[06:13] <baash05> Also when I pick an earlier model I get "This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates."
[06:13] <Fediddy> AppAraat, any help?
[06:13] <AppAraat> easyOnMe: in that case, type "aptitude search netbeans" if there's an i instead of p in the output, then you have it installed.
[06:14] <cfhowlett> baash05, use the page that most closely matches your hardware.
[06:14] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: ok thanks
[06:14] <AppAraat> Fediddy: it looks like a non-stock Ubuntu with (as others have said) mixed repos.
[06:14] <baash05> I did..
[06:14] <AppAraat> Fediddy: so best option is to either get the repos straight or re-install.
[06:15] <OerHeks> Fediddy, a vps, those are heavily tweaked, get help from your vendor, to get a clean image back/ or sourceslist ...
[06:15] <Fediddy> AppAraat, I found a .save file of the sources.list from the 5th of this month... I copied the content over to sources.list and that error has disappeared... when I run apt-get update and the upgrade everthing works and the upgrade comes back with 0,0,0
[06:15] <baash05> Hey.. So the closest hardware there is 2012..
[06:15] <cfhowlett> baash05, go for it with that one then
[06:16] <Fediddy> when i run, sudo apt-get install subversion build-essential automake libtool libcppunit-dev libcurl3-dev
[06:16] <Fediddy> ,,, i get The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:16] <Fediddy>  build-essential : Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[06:16] <Fediddy>                             libc-dev
[06:16] <Fediddy>                    Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.4.3) but it is not going to be installed
[06:16] <Fediddy>  libcurl4-openssl-dev : Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[06:16] <Fediddy>                                  libc-dev
[06:16] <baash05> Woud that be mate?
[06:17] <Fediddy> hello
[06:18] <Fediddy> sorry
[06:18] <mai_> hello
[06:18] <Fediddy> http://pastebin.com/qkjfKrJk
[06:19] <linuxuz3r> hi ho Fediddy mai_
[06:20] <Fediddy> linuxuz3r, Its off to work we go!
[06:20] <Fediddy> Disney :)
[06:27] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: I got this path Home/Documents/Netbeans/netbeans-8.0.2-php.linux.sh
[06:28] <AppAraat> easyOnMe: how did you get that file? How did you install Netbeans?
[06:28] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: I used int filezilla and it gives me this error saying associated program not found even though that is what nautilus says
[06:28] <easyOnMe> I forget I did it ages ago
[06:30] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: but there is where the folder Netbeans is located together with its .sh file
[06:30] <AppAraat> ok well, what's the output to "aptitude search netbeans" (paste the output on something like pastebin)
[06:32] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: hang on I need to install aptitude
[06:32] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: what is aptitude for
[06:32] <AppAraat> apt-get install aptitude
[06:32] <AppAraat> (with sudo before it btw)
[06:32] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: I just did
[06:34] <ObrienDave> aptitude is another type of apt-get
[06:35] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: there is a command to pastebin right from the terminal
[06:35] <AppAraat> easyOnMe: yes, add this to your .bashrc: alias apaste='curl -F '\''paste=<-'\'' http://apaste.info/store'
[06:36] <AppAraat> and then do "aptitude search netbeans | apaste"
[06:37] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: this command: .bashrc: alias apaste='curl -F '\''paste=<-'\'' http://apaste.info/store'
[06:37] <easyOnMe> do you want me to put it in the terminal
[06:38] <AppAraat> easyOnMe: no, open the .bashrc file with a text editor and paste that line "alias apaste='curl -F '\''paste=<-'\'' http://apaste.info/store'" (without the doublequotes) in there somewhere (at the end preferably)
[06:38] <AppAraat> then simply start a new terminal session
[06:39] <legend> After installing windows 7, if i install ubuntu, i easily get dual boot options. But if i install ubuntu first and then windows 7, i straightaway boot into windows 7. Is this abnormal behaviour?
[06:39] <legend> I tried it with Windows 8 but problem still persists.
[06:39] <ObrienDave> legend, no that's normal
[06:39] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: noted with thanks
[06:39] <EriC^^> legend: yeah
[06:39] <ObrienDave> legend, ALWAYS install windows first
[06:40] <EriC^^> legend: when you install windows it installs its bootloader and it doesn't pick up ubuntu
[06:40] <ObrienDave> there is a way to fix it but it's MUCH easier to install win first
[06:41] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: I just opened the .bashrc file where shall the paste the command you gave
[06:41] <legend> Is there some limitation in Windows bootloader due to which it doesn't pick linux OS?
[06:41] <easyOnMe> it is ok to paste it at the very bottom of the file
[06:41] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: it is ok to paste it at the very bottom of the file
[06:41] <AppAraat> ye
[06:41] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: ok save and done
[06:41] <easyOnMe> restarting my terminal
[06:41] <ObrienDave> legend, yes there is
[06:42] <AppAraat> easyOnMe: all right, now test it by doing "echo 'hello world' | apaste"
[06:42] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: it gave this back it is ok to paste it at the very bottom of the file
[06:43] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: it gave this back: http://apaste.info/moz
[06:43] <legend> I see. I hope windows community patch this limitation in upcoming windows 10.
[06:43] <xangua> lol
[06:43] <ObrienDave> legend, that is NOT likely to happen.
[06:43] <AppAraat> easyOnMe: that means it succeeded. Now use that command to paste the output of "aptitude search netbeans"
[06:44] <easyOnMe> http://apaste.info/uGI
[06:44] <ObrienDave> legend, there is NO such thing as the "windows community"
[06:44] <toot> Hello. Sorry,  whether the russian-speaking community?
[06:44] <ObrienDave> !ru | toot
[06:45] <AppAraat> easyOnMe: right. So this means you don't have netbeans installed. You probably downloaded the executable somewhere from the Internet while that should have been the last resort. Always use the repositories of your distro. A repo is like an app store (also predates the app store by like 20 years or so).
[06:45] <toot> !ru
[06:45] <AppAraat> easyOnMe: if you want to install netbeans, simply do "sudo aptitude install netbeans"
[06:46] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: ok but I still manage to run netbeans on my ubuntu laptop
[06:46] <easyOnMe> can I just use the path I gave you earlier to open any file using netbeans
[06:47] <AppAraat> easyOnMe: that means you installed it from god-knows-where and are stuck with a program which is not fully-integrated with your system. The path which you found was probably an installer script. You need to find the actual binary executable file.
[06:48] <AppAraat> perhaps paste that .sh file to pastebin so we can at least see where it has been installed?
[06:49] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: which is where I got some netbeans folder down here shown by nautilus
[06:50] <AppAraat> wileee: can the same be done with vlc, or is cheese best suited for this application of webcam troubleshooting?
[06:50] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: which is where/ I got some netbeans folder down here shown by nautilus
[06:50] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: which is where? I got some netbeans folder down here shown by nautilus
[06:51] <AppAraat> Home/Documents/Netbeans/netbeans-8.0.2-php.linux.sh ?
[06:51] <AppAraat> is there also a binary executable there?
[06:51] <wileee> AppAraat, I have not used vlc with a cam.
[06:52] <AppAraat> all right, I'll install cheese in that case.
[06:53] <akiva-thinkpad> ubuntu wiki won't let me log in with my ubuntu one account.
[06:53] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: how do I know that a file is binary or not
[06:54] <akiva-thinkpad> nvm
[06:55] <ObrienDave> easyOnMe, open with notepad. if you can read it, it's NOT binary ;P
[06:55] <easyOnMe> ObrienDave: noted with thanks
[06:55] <ObrienDave> and binary files are usually marked executable ;P
[06:56] <easyOnMe> ObrienDave: do they end with a .sh extension
[06:56] <ObrienDave> .sh means shell. usually a text script type file
[06:56] <baash05> Tried the 14.04 version of mate.
[06:57] <easyOnMe> ObrienDave: ok I got three netbeans showing up on nautilus after I did a search
[06:58] <ObrienDave> i know nothing about netbeans. java, yes?
[06:58] <wafflejock> yeah
[06:58] <wafflejock> it's a java ide
[06:58] <easyOnMe> one is a folder with .netbeans the other is just named netbens and the last one is Netbeans where the netbeans-8.0.20php-linux.sh is located
[06:58] <easyOnMe> yes it is a java based IDE
[06:58] <wafflejock> easyOnMe, yeah so you probably have a .netbeans folder in your home folder with your user config for that program
[06:58] <baash05> I  tried the 14.04 and nothing about it seems to support wifi  or bluetooth :(
[06:59] <wafflejock> easyOnMe, the one without an extension is probably the executable directly, the .sh file is typically the script you'd run to launch the binary with some config beforehand
[06:59] <easyOnMe> wafflejock: yeah I also a config folder in one of those netbeans folder I just mentioned earlier
[06:59] <ObrienDave> baash05, strange, i'm running 14.04 and both work just fine
[07:00] <easyOnMe> wafflejock: so I go to the Home .netbeans folder and look for the config folder inside is that what you  mean
[07:00] <baash05> Sorry.. I meant I installed it on a macbookpro
[07:01] <baash05> I wanted to move away from fedora because it had so much in it
[07:01] <easyOnMe> wafflejock: Ok I am inside Home/.netbeans/config;
[07:01] <baash05> Perhaps next weekend. :(
[07:01] <easyOnMe> wafflejock: so what do I do now
[07:01] <ObrienDave> baash05, i'm not a mac person
[07:01] <baash05> Nore am I :)
[07:01] <baash05> the hardware was nice.
[07:02] <baash05> but the os sucks
[07:02] <wafflejock> easyOnMe, you should be able to just launch the .sh file where that is don't worry about the .config folder
[07:02] <ObrienDave> *face palms* then WHY??? :)
[07:02] <wafflejock> easyOnMe, if launching from the config file works then I can point you at how to setup a .desktop text file in /usr/share/applications to make a launcher for the .sh file if not we can fix the permissions on the .sh file so we can launch it
[07:03] <wafflejock> sorry not config file the .sh file
[07:03] <baash05> ObrienDave: do you mean why did I get a mac?  The hardware is awesome.. They feel so solid.
[07:03] <wafflejock> you got me all confused :P
[07:03] <ObrienDave> baash05, all i care about is that it works ;P
[07:04] <baash05> Ha.. Yeah.. fedora22 works, but the WM is gnome3 and I'm not really in love with it.
[07:04] <ObrienDave> im sure fedora has a xfce spin
[07:05] <baash05> Oh?
[07:05] <AppAraat> ObrienDave: are spins managed by community?
[07:05] <ObrienDave> i run Xubuntu because i HATE Unity ;P
[07:06] <ObrienDave> AppAraat, yes, more of a specialty community
[07:07] <easyOnMe> ObrienDave: I am just wondering I am inside the Documents folder and when I type cd Netbeans it says no such file or directory when in fact it is there
[07:07] <ObrienDave> check the spelling. cd is case sensitive
[07:09] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: http://apaste.info/HmQ
[07:09] <easyOnMe> I got this
[07:14] <easyOnMe> what is the extension for executable files in linux
[07:15] <ObrienDave> there really is no .exe equivalent. they're marked executable in permissions
[07:15] <baizon> easyOnMe: this isnt windows, you have to look if a file has +x
[07:18] <Gregor3000> is there any alternative to Adobe Pro? i need to create form form MS Word. LO opens it ok but doesn't know how to save it propperly.
[07:19] <Gregor3000> either in .odt, .docx or PDF. the say it's a low priority bug.
[07:20] <wafflejock> easyOnMe, you can use ls -al and you'll see the permissions for the files and a d if it's a directory
[07:21] <wafflejock> easyOnMe, if it's executable already you'll see a x in the permissions before the file
[07:22] <wafflejock> easyOnMe, from the looks of what you listed you just need to cd NetBeans, from there
[07:22] <wafflejock> hard to tell without the extra file info though
[07:23] <easyOnMe> wafflejock: yup but the file inside is actually the installer
[07:23] <easyOnMe> it is executable but it is for installation
[07:23] <easyOnMe> I am looking for the one that runs netbeans on ubuntu
[07:23] <wafflejock> easyOnMe, okay that's not what we want you already installed right?
[07:23] <wafflejock> you said earlier you saw netbeans-8.0.20php-linux.sh is that the installer or something else?
[07:24] <easyOnMe> wafflejock: yeah that was the installer
[07:24] <easyOnMe> I tried running it and it was the installation file
[07:25] <EmptySpace> need to hold shift down while booting 14.04 to enter menu, correct?
[07:25] <EmptySpace> from liveusb?
[07:26] <ObrienDave> not normally, that's only if you don't get the GRUB menu
[07:26] <EmptySpace> ok
[07:26] <wafflejock> easyOnMe, one min
[07:28] <easyOnMe> wafflejock: ok no problem
[07:29] <wafflejock> easyOnMe, okay so you ran the netbeans installer already and stepped through the wizard?
[07:29] <easyOnMe> wafflejock: no I am not installing it again man
[07:29] <wafflejock> easyOnMe, you should have a folder called netbeans-version in your /home/username folder
[07:29] <easyOnMe> ok
[07:29] <easyOnMe> yes I have
[07:29] <wafflejock> easyOnMe, I'm not telling you install it again I'm verifying you did install it actually just to be clear
[07:30] <wafflejock> easyOnMe, okay so in a terminal just go to cd ~
[07:30] <wafflejock> then ls -al
[07:30] <wafflejock> and show the output there
[07:30] <wafflejock> er if you see a netbeans folder just cd into there
[07:31] <easyOnMe> wafflejock: I got this .cache/netbeans
[07:31] <easyOnMe> I also got this Home/.netbeans
[07:31] <easyOnMe> so which one should I got
[07:31] <easyOnMe> go
[07:31] <wafflejock> easyOnMe, nothing in the root of your user folder
[07:31] <easyOnMe> nothing
[07:31] <wafflejock> I have the installer up here for netbeans PHP version
[07:31] <wafflejock> it says it would install to /home/shaun/netbeans-8.0.2
[07:31] <wafflejock> I'm shaun :)
[07:32] <easyOnMe> nice meeting you shaun
[07:32] <easyOnMe> but I do not know where I installed mine man
[07:32] <wafflejock> I can try with the java one but I imagine it should have the same
[07:32] <easyOnMe> but I can guarantee you it is working on my laptop
[07:32] <wafflejock> just figured I might actually use the other one
[07:34] <easyOnMe> wafflejock: ok what is inside your netbeans-8.0.2-php-linux in your root folder
[07:35] <wafflejock> easyOnMe, eh I decided to just grab the java one instead to see if it was different but all the same /home/shaun/Downloads/netbeans-8.0.2-javase-linux.sh
[07:35] <wafflejock> oops
[07:35] <easyOnMe> wafflejock: the one you got is java
[07:35] <baizon> eclipse/intellij > netbeans
[07:35] <easyOnMe> that is the reason I never use aptitude
[07:35] <easyOnMe> I just use the zip file
[07:36] <wafflejock> yeah I like intellij at this point used eclipse for a while
[07:36] <wafflejock> netbeans never grew on me
[07:36] <wafflejock> one min though
[07:36] <wafflejock> installing cause why not give it another go
[07:36] <wafflejock> looks like it's all going in that folder though not sure what to tell ya if you don't have it
[07:37] <wafflejock> I liked SublimeText as well but really needed something with a proper debugger for server side stuff
[07:38] <ObrienDave> this convo keeps getting weirder. TV time *waves*
[07:38] <wafflejock> okay it installed
[07:38] <wafflejock> if I type netbeans I see it and can launch it... so is that not the case for you?
[07:38] <wafflejock> I mean just using the dash
[07:39] <AppAraat> wileee: I managed to get the webcam working (no audio yet) - http://apaste.info/XuX - but webcam still doesn't work on skype :(
[07:40] <AppAraat> I figured out what caused the "blue flashing" though. It only happened if the remote caller enabled their camera.
[07:40] <wafflejock> easyOnMe, the launcher says it's running   /bin/sh "/home/shaun/netbeans-8.0.2/bin/netbeans"
[07:40] <AppAraat> without remote caller camera, with only local cam turned on... the cam simply outputted black.
[07:40] <easyOnMe> wafflejock: ok noted with thanks
[07:41] <easyOnMe> let me check again
[07:41] <AppAraat> I feel like this is going to turn into a huge PITA. I'm saddened to say that sometimes it's best to just install Windows :(
[07:41] <wafflejock> easyOnMe, yeah I'm using Gnome so maybe the dash is just not updating immediately or something not sure
[07:44] <wafflejock> yeah I'd say netbeans has definitely improved would say a little cleaner than intellij visually but less so than sublime text seems a lot lighter than it used to be but might just be from hardware advances since I last used it
[07:51] <wafflejock> AppAraat, have had good luck with using guvcview myself for testing out and tweaking settings on my webcam might be worth a go
[07:52] <wafflejock> anyhow gotta get some sleep
[07:52] <AppAraat> thanks, will check it out.
[07:52] <AppAraat> gn :)
[07:52] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: just one more time
[07:52] <easyOnMe> I got my netbeans on my launcher
[07:53] <easyOnMe> now there is usually a way to find its file from the share folder where it configures which programs to include in the launcher right
[07:53] <easyOnMe> so where are all these files located
[07:54] <easyOnMe> maybe we can get an idea from there which netbeans executable file is being used to launch netbeans
[07:54] <kampiyo> ##ubuntu
[07:54] <kampiyo> how to buy bitcoins
[07:54] <AppAraat> easyOnMe: I have no clue, packages installed outside of the repo could be anywhere. You can use the search function on the root of the filesystem
[07:54] <AppAraat> !offtopic kampiyo
[07:55] <AppAraat> kampiyo: #bitcoin
[07:55] <easyOnMe> AppAraat: how do you know the command on the terminal
[07:56] <AppAraat> easyOnMe: sudo find / -iname "*netbean*"
[07:56] <OerHeks> which netbeans, locate netbeans
[08:08] <mir3k> #ubuntu-pl
[08:20] <Snowie> Hi all. I have what looks like from the output a kernel config problem. I'm confused because i can still install via CLI. This is the output of $ sudo apt-get upgrade. I did follow a post some time ago to remove old kernal versions to free space on /boot and I'm assuming i nuffed it :(
[08:21] <Skyrider> If I were to be installing ubuntu server, which version should I pick?
[08:21] <Skyrider> Ubuntu 14.04 or 15.04
[08:21] <Snowie> latest lts
[08:22] <Skyrider> I see the latest is 14.04.2
[08:22] <Snowie> !ubotu lts
[08:22] <Skyrider> Oddly enough, only 14.04 is available to me.
[08:22] <Skyrider> meh
[08:22] <Snowie> lol, i never get that right
[08:22] <Snowie> it's the Long Term Support release
[08:22] <Skyrider> That, I know :)
[08:23] <Skyrider> But was more curious if 15.04 was more stable over 14.04.
[08:23] <bekks> Skyrider: No.
[08:23] <Skyrider> regardless not being lts.
[08:23] <Snowie> that's not the plan i understand
[08:23] <Snowie> lts is the production recommended version
[08:23] <bekks> Skyrider: For a server, just use LTS.
[08:24] <HypothesisFrog> hi. There's a massive, 37gig file in ~/ that has a three line filename. What on earth could it be?
[08:25] <wileee> an alien portal?
[08:25] <HypothesisFrog> lol
[08:25] <Skyrider> bbl
[08:25] <HypothesisFrog> it's called tmpodbUant8Y0N81fFBnaffTyBUwyJf9VeZTCkBgiy9DNIXlZrTEKvUZ8sRt_oGUuveMJ1HAbBZcC_ip1loRgY9PaA6qcd2rXhC6fSif6.kBo3UDFlPwSPJLD8Ta9fVDO4dL9-1_tPDcv2O1zml7iMmhju\ z9chywpHF_1PNc\ ZkXTqTK8nzou58\ ZPG40xrPBbe6U08dsP77BOZomuCuHONW_a9ghFBXknqsl1Y7BbuWpGO8_xrInaFkxvjzN
[08:25] <HypothesisFrog> wot the sock is that?
[08:25] <Matsy> Can you do a head -100 tmpodbUant8Y0N81fFBnaffTyBUwyJf9VeZTCkBgiy9DNIXlZrTEKvUZ8sRt_oGUuveMJ1HAbBZcC_ip1loRgY9PaA6qcd2rXhC6fSif6.kBo3UDFlPwSPJLD8Ta9fVDO4dL9-1_tPDcv2O1zml7iMmhju\ z9chywpHF_1PNc\  ZkXTqTK8nzou58\ ZPG40xrPBbe6U08dsP77BOZomuCuHONW_a9ghFBXknqsl1Y7BbuWpGO8_xrInaFkxvjzN
[08:26] <HypothesisFrog> head ?
[08:26] <Matsy> It extracts the first 100 bytes out of the file
[08:26] <Matsy> If it is a common file, it will have a magic
[08:26] <Matsy> head -c 100*
[08:26] <HypothesisFrog> head -c 100 tmpodbUant8Y0N81fFBnaffTyBUwyJf9VeZTCkBgiy9DNIXlZrTEKvUZ8sRt_oGUuveMJ1HAbBZcC_ip1loRgY9PaA6qcd2rXhC6fSif6.kBo3UDFlPwSPJLD8Ta9fVDO4dL9-1_tPDcv2O1zml7iMmhju\ z9chywpHF_1PNc\ ZkXTqTK8nzou58\ ZPG40xrPBbe6U08dsP77BOZomuCuHONW_a9ghFBXknqsl1Y7BbuWpGO8_xrInaFkxvjzN
[08:26] <Matsy> Yes
[08:26] <HypothesisFrog> output: nothing
[08:27] <Matsy> Da fuck?
[08:27] <HypothesisFrog> can you say fuck in here?
[08:28] <Matsy> Another thing we can try
[08:28] <wileee> NO
[08:28] <Matsy> od -t x1 -N 100 tmpodbUant8Y0N81fFBnaffTyBUwyJf9VeZTCkBgiy9DNIXlZrTEKvUZ8sRt_oGUuveMJ1HAbBZcC_ip1loRgY9PaA6qcd2rXhC6fSif6.kBo3UDFlPwSPJLD8Ta9fVDO4dL9-1_tPDcv2O1zml7iMmhju\ z9chywpHF_1PNc\  ZkXTqTK8nzou58\ ZPG40xrPBbe6U08dsP77BOZomuCuHONW_a9ghFBXknqsl1Y7BbuWpGO8_xrInaFkxvjzN
[08:29] <Matsy> Will print it in hexadecimal.
[08:29] <HypothesisFrog> Matsy lots of 0s
[08:29] <Matsy> Figured
[08:29] <Matsy> Who's the owner of the file?
[08:29] <HypothesisFrog> me
[08:29] <HypothesisFrog> it seemed to appear after I used bleachbit
[08:31] <Matsy> Always a bad idea
[08:31] <HypothesisFrog> could be related to this http://askubuntu.com/questions/427647/strange-folder-in-my-home-folder-after-a-failed-run-of-bleachbit
[08:31] <Matsy> lol
[08:31] <Snowie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11940799/
[08:31] <Snowie> i think that worked in pastebinit
[08:31] <Snowie> short version
[08:32] <kam1> kde or gnome
[08:32] <kam1> go!
[08:32] <Matsy> HypothesisFrog: I'd just delete it
[08:32] <Matsy> Can't be something important
[08:32] <Matsy> If it starts with 0 bytes
[08:32] <HypothesisFrog> Matsy will do
[08:32] <HypothesisFrog> another thing
[08:32] <Snowie> dpkg: error processing package linux-generic-lts-utopic (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[08:32] <Snowie> No apport report written because the error message indicates its a followup error from a previous failure.
[08:32] <HypothesisFrog> possible OT, but how do I post install windows 7?
[08:32] <Snowie> No apport report written because the error message indicates its a followup error from a previous failure.
[08:32] <Snowie> No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already
[08:32] <Snowie> appologies
[08:33] <Snowie> Errors were encountered while processing: linux-image-3.16.0-44-generic linux-image-extra-3.16.0-44-generic linux-image-generic-lts-utopic linux-generic-lts-utopic
[08:33] <Snowie> more than expected
[08:33] <kam1> i miss ubuntu
[08:33] <Matsy> HypothesisFrog: You mean after you installed Ubuntu?
[08:33] <HypothesisFrog> Matsy yep yep
[08:33] <kam1> What happened with HypthesisFrog's ubuntu build?
[08:33] <Matsy> You kinda did the wrong way around :p
[08:33] <kam1> i miss ubuntu so much
[08:34] <Matsy> Since, whenever you install Windows 7 now, grub will be affected
[08:34] <kam1> i am prob gonna go back soon
[08:34] <kam1> loool yeah happened to me before^
[08:34] <HypothesisFrog> Matsy can't I reinstall grub? supergrubdisk used to do that automatically
[08:34] <Matsy> HypothesisFrog: So, how this works. Run gparted. Create your windows partition.
[08:34] <Matsy> Install Windows 7
[08:34] <Matsy> Use your live USB to install grub again
[08:34] <Matsy> And it will fix it
[08:34] <awtempler> anyone install Shiny-server on Ubuntu??
[08:34] <HypothesisFrog> Matsy what do I install on the usb?
[08:35] <Guest45730> hi
[08:35] <Matsy> HypothesisFrog: How did you install Ubuntu?
[08:35] <bekks> awtempler: What's "shiny-server"?
[08:35] <wileee> Snowie, That release became end of life last thursday.
[08:35] <kam1> can someone help me with c
[08:35] <Matsy> bekks: It's a server frontend for r-studio
[08:35] <Matsy> Allows you to create interactive r-documents
[08:35] <Matsy> Mostly for statistics
[08:35] <kam1> in terms of dev. i used to use ubuntu for beginning practice c dev
[08:35] <HypothesisFrog> Matsy 14.04 ubuntustudio install cd
[08:35] <kam1> but now i have a win build with code blocks or someshit
[08:35] <Matsy> .. CD?
[08:36] <HypothesisFrog> Matsy affirmative
[08:36] <awtempler> Shiny-server serves apps written in R/Shiny !!
[08:36] <ricard> you may like my cpu is limited to 1333mhz ram, the mothyerboard only recognize 1400MHz RAM
[08:36] <HypothesisFrog> dvd/cd, whatever. Silvery round thing with a hole in it.
[08:36] <Matsy> HypothesisFrog: Follow this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/83771/recovering-grub-after-installing-windows-7
[08:36] <Matsy> awtempler: So yeah, I installed it. I'm currently running a large instance of shiny apps using it
[08:36] <Matsy> What's your question?
[08:37] <kam1> I have a questions
[08:37] <kam1> someone respond to me
[08:37] <kam1> with good ubuntu experience
[08:37] <HypothesisFrog> Matsy thanks.
[08:37] <kam1> Matsy!!
[08:37] <Matsy> kam1: Just ask your question
[08:37] <ricard> you may like my cpu is limited to 1333mhz ram, the mothyerboard only recognize 1400MHz RAM
[08:37] <bekks> kam1: First ask a Ubuntu support question, not a c support question :)
[08:37] <awtempler> Matsy: I am having loads of issues just setting it up...as i need to build it from source!!
[08:37] <kam1> firstly without sounding like a nuub
[08:38] <kam1> how on earth are you guys managing to write my name, and then posting your message after
[08:38] <Matsy> awtempler: Why?
[08:38] <kam1> like that^
[08:38] <Matsy> awtempler: Ubuntu has packages for shiny
[08:38] <Matsy> Or well, it has gdebi
[08:38] <HypothesisFrog> Matsy is it safe to just re partition the hard drive with gparted? Any options I should click to avoid losing data?
[08:38] <bekks> HypothesisFrog: For avoiding data loss, create a backup.
[08:38] <Matsy> HypothesisFrog: Always backup your data before doing something like this
[08:39] <ricard> you may like my cpu is limited to 1333mhz ram, the mothyerboard only recognize 1400MHz RAM
[08:39] <Matsy> Matter of fact
[08:39] <Matsy> Always just backup your data
[08:39] <HypothesisFrog> Matsy but does the process automatically erase the partitions?
[08:39] <awtempler> Matsy: There are only binaries for 64-bit......I have 32 bit Ubuntu installed....so the only option is to build Shiny-Server from source
[08:39] <ricard> please tell me
[08:39] <Matsy> HypothesisFrog: No
[08:39] <Matsy> HypothesisFrog: It will shrink the ubuntu partition, and leave you with free space
[08:39] <HypothesisFrog> Matsy so ok. I will create a back up, as you suggest. thanks.
[08:39] <Matsy> HypothesisFrog: You can partition it, or not.
[08:39] <kam1> compiling on c was eazy, gcc, and then ran it using the terminal, how on earth can i do that but on windows, longtime gnu user, not really affiliated with win lol hard to believe
[08:39] <Matsy> Windows will either see a FAT32 partition, or free space. Both are great.
[08:40] <kam1> fat32 in most cases^
[08:40] <Matsy> awtempler: You have a 32 bit os?
[08:40] <wileee> ricard, What is your end goal here; support?
[08:40] <Matsy> awtempler: That's tough
[08:40] <awtempler> Matsy: That it is!
[08:41] <ricard> wileee, yes
[08:41] <Matsy> awtempler: Are you following this? https://github.com/rstudio/shiny-server/wiki/Building-Shiny-Server-from-Source
[08:42] <wileee> !details | ricard than.....
[08:42] <Matsy> Doesn't look too complicated
[08:42] <awtempler> Matsy: yes I am absolutely....to the letter......still have build issues....build breaks after a few mins of compiling and comes back with errors
[08:43] <Matsy> Can you post the build log?
[08:43] <Matsy> (Paste.ubuntu.com will make the people here happy)
[08:43] <kam1> what is this, customer service?
[08:43] <bekks> kam1: This is free volunteer support.
[08:45] <ricard> if I want to know if my being limited to 1333mhz cpu, motherboard only makes me stop up the ram to 1400MHz when the motherboard puts reaching 1600mhz
[08:45] <bazhang> ricard, ##hardware
[08:46] <PanV> I would like your help please, I am dual-booting windows and ubuntu. (2 partitions) I cannot run Windows 8 because they are broken, I will re install it but I need all files at C:/Users backed up. I tried accessing the second partition (Windows Partition) but it won't let me, with a message which says something about the NTFS partition being into an unsafe state. My request is: How can I fix this NTFS partition error message. (/dev/sda2)
[08:46] <awtempler> Matsy: Can I send you the build log by email?
[08:46] <PanV> :)
[08:46] <Matsy> Why's that?
[08:46] <Matsy> Shouldn't be anything privacy-sensitive in them
[08:46] <bazhang> use the windows repair tools PanV
[08:46] <bazhang> help in ##windows PanV
[08:47] <PanV> bazhang
[08:47] <PanV> I know ##windows
[08:47] <PanV> I will fix windows later
[08:47] <ricard> not is posibol for me hardware
[08:47] <bazhang> PanV, ubuntu wont have any tools to fix ntfs
[08:47] <PanV> I need to back up my files from the windows partition :/
[08:47] <ricard> if I want to know if my being limited to 1333mhz cpu, motherboard only makes me stop up the ram to 1400MHz when the motherboard puts reaching 1600mhz
[08:47] <bazhang> PanV, so get help in the appropriate channels, which is NOT here
[08:48] <PanV> Okay Okay
[08:48] <bazhang> ricard, how is that a software question
[08:48] <awtempler> Matsy: NameError: global name 'file' is not defined
[08:48] <bazhang> ricard, ask in a hardware channel, such as ##hardware
[08:50] <ricard> yes but not is posibol for me enter in ##hardware
[08:50] <bazhang> ricard, thast not our problem
[08:50] <Matsy> awtempler: Can you upload the full build log?
[08:51] <ricard> if I want to know if my being limited to 1333mhz cpu, motherboard only makes me stop up the ram to 1400MHz when the motherboard puts reaching 1600mhz
[08:51] <Matsy> awtempler: Make sure you're running this on python2.7 though
[08:51] <ricard> please tell me
[08:51] <bazhang> !ot | ricard
[08:51] <bazhang> ricard stop asking here
[08:52] <Matsy> !english | ricard
[08:53] <Saturn812> what's the proper way to install from a sourcefile? I remember reading, "make" leaves a bunch of junk and there was a nice wrap around it...
[08:53] <EriC^^> !makecheck
[08:53] <EriC^^> !checkinstall
[08:54] <Saturn812> yes, thanks you. I think this is it
[08:54] <EriC^^> Saturn812: you can run make clean after running make to remove unnecessary stuff too
[08:54] <Matsy> ^
[08:54] <Matsy> That's the only thing you need to do
[08:54] <Matsy> make && make install && make clean for 99% of the applications
[08:54] <EriC^^> yeah the other one is to make package out of it and integrate it into the system
[08:55] <Saturn812> what about uninstalling something that have been installed using "make"? Doesn't it fill the bin or other system folders with unused binaries and libs?
[08:56] <slani> helo. after update to 15.04 my sound stop working
[08:56] <EriC^^> Saturn812: sometimes the author has a make uninstall for it
[08:56] <EriC^^> it depends
[08:56] <slani> can someone help
[08:56] <Matsy> make uninstall?
[08:56] <Matsy> I've never seen that :p
[08:56] <EriC^^> Saturn812: if you want to remove it easily read about the check install method above
[08:57] <EriC^^> Matsy: never used it myself, but it exists :P
[08:57] <EriC^^> depends on the author i guess
[08:58] <Matsy> EriC^^: That's nice, though
[08:58] <EriC^^> yeah
[08:58] <EriC^^> :)
[08:58] <Matsy> It's one thing I hade about unix-systems. All the files are everywhere
[08:59] <Matsy> For example, who the hell expects mysql databases to be at /var/lib/mysql/
[08:59] <EriC^^> yeah it's organized yet all over the place
[08:59] <Matsy> And when you do an apt-get --purge, it won't even remove it
[08:59] <EriC^^> has it's good and bad i guess
[09:00] <Matsy> EriC^^: I end up just moving everything every time I spin up a new server
[09:00] <Matsy> To a folder called /serverconf
[09:02] <EriC^^> yup
[09:04] <Skyrider> Oke...
[09:04] <Skyrider> I was hoping someone could explain something to me..
[09:05] <Skyrider> I just installed ubuntu 14.04 (I believe) minimal.. barely anything installed.
[09:05] <Skyrider> I installed sudo, nginx, php5 and fpm.. that's it.
[09:05] <EriC^^> ok
[09:05] <Matsy> That's a good start
[09:05] <Skyrider> Now when I attempt to install mysql server, I'm getting
[09:06] <Matsy> No apache
[09:06] <Skyrider> dpkg: error processing package mysql-server (--configure):
[09:06] <Matsy> Did you do apt-get update?
[09:06] <Skyrider> yes, I had to do that otherwise no packages were found.
[09:06] <Skyrider> Had to do so before sudo.
[09:06] <Skyrider> **for sudo installation
[09:06] <EriC^^> try sudo apt-get -f install
[09:06] <Skyrider> also did, same error.
[09:06] <Skyrider> Now I installed debian 8 (quick installation), did the exact same things as above..
[09:06] <Skyrider> sql installed, perfectly.
[09:06] <EriC^^> try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:07] <Skyrider> also did, same error.
[09:07] <EriC^^> what's the error?
[09:07] <Skyrider> It's a fresh installation, how the heck is this even possible?
[09:07] <Matsy> Yeah, the full error
[09:07] <Matsy> Skyrider: Probably because php5-fpm installs a fpm-mysql package as well
[09:07] <Skyrider> 1 sec, I'll install ubuntu again.
[09:07] <Skyrider> Shouldn't take long.
[09:07] <Matsy> Install mysql before fpm
[09:07] <AppAraat> wileee: I think I figured out why I don't have audio on skype... I apparently don't have pulse installed. Should I simply aptitude install pulseaudio or do I have to configure it a bit further?
[09:08] <Matsy> Let's see in what order I install my web server packages
[09:08] <Matsy> packages = ['nginx', 'mysql-server','php5-fpm','php5-mysql','quota']
[09:08] <wileee> AppAraat, What DE is this?
[09:09] <AppAraat> wileee: Ubuntu minimal with LXDE minimal.
[09:09] <Skyrider> So I should install mysql-server first, then fpm?
[09:09] <Matsy> Yes.
[09:09] <wileee> AppAraat, Ah, not sure, just wondered why pulse was not there.
[09:09] <AppAraat> http://apaste.info/TKp
[09:09] <AppAraat> I think I need gstreamer as well.
[09:09] <Matsy> Make sure to just install php5-fpm
[09:09] <Matsy> And php5-mysql
[09:09] <EriC^^> Skyrider: you can install them at the same time and apt should figure stuff out by itself
[09:10] <EriC^^> ( just a fyi )
[09:10] <Matsy> EriC^^: Not with fpm, though
[09:10] <EriC^^> but do as Matsy says, i dunno much about those packages
[09:10] <Matsy> I've had weird issues installing fpm before mysql
[09:10] <Skyrider> whats the package named for a installation gui?
[09:10] <Skyrider> I forgot the name.. fontend or something
[09:11] <Skyrider> **frontend
[09:11] <Matsy> Why do you need an installation gui?
[09:11] <Skyrider> I don't like packages whining about something missing.
[09:11] <Matsy> MySQL will prompt you for one thing via a gui, and that is the root password
[09:11] <Matsy> It won't miss anything?
[09:11] <Skyrider> blue or black gui? :p
[09:11] <Matsy> red :p
[09:12] <slani> helo. after update to 15.04 my sound stop working
[09:12] <slani> can someone help
[09:12] <Skyrider> are you serious..
[09:13] <Matsy> alani: install alsa-base and pulseaudio from apt
[09:13] <Skyrider> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11940943/
[09:13] <Matsy> wtf, dialog?
[09:13] <Matsy> Oh, you aren't installing this on a server?
[09:13] <wileee> AppAraat, There is a codec package some use its lubuntu-restricted-extras in your case has gstreamer good bad and ugly
[09:13] <Skyrider> I am?
[09:14] <Matsy> This is weird
[09:14] <Skyrider> Using minimal installation btw..
[09:14] <Skyrider> barely anything installed.. but still..
[09:14] <wileee> AppAraat, Has MS font, you can refuse it when asked if you run it.
[09:15] <Matsy> Skyrider: I just reinstalled mysql from aptitude
[09:15] <Matsy> No error
[09:15] <Skyrider> maybe an image issue?
[09:15] <Skyrider> wrong minimal installation?
[09:16] <Matsy> Hm, that might be it. I don't know
[09:16] <Matsy> Try DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get install mysql-server
[09:16] <Matsy> Would be 'really' weird if that worked though
[09:18] <Skyrider> nvm, its running now..
[09:18] <__thuginc__> hi all
[09:18] <Skyrider> I used a non-minimal installation this time.
[09:18] <__thuginc__> i have a ?
[09:18] <Skyrider> I think the problem is the minimal image file.
[09:19] <Matsy> Skyrider: Yeah, I never use minimal image files
[09:19] <Matsy> Just use the full image file, and only install openssh there
[09:19] <Skyrider> But thanks :)
[09:19] <Matsy> Skyrider: Glad it worked
[09:19] <EriC^^> __thuginc__: go for it
[09:19] <__thuginc__> i am trying to  remove the white dots from my login ubuntu 15.04 can any one help me
[09:19] <wileee> not much in 35mb
[09:19] <Matsy> Make sure you configure your fpm correctly!! Everyone always forgets that fpm has configuration files as well
[09:19] <Matsy> And then end up getting hacked
[09:19] <EriC^^> __thuginc__: what do you want? the boot msgs? blabla .... [OK] ?
[09:20] <linuxr> Hi...I use ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS with latest updates installed. When I was just browsing the web with firefox, I suddenly experienced a "system freeze"...mouse cursor and keyboard did not not respond...this was for about 30sec...after that, the system lagged some but recovered then. I could not find anything suspicios in kernel log...only thing was the "rtkit" adjusting some stuff..can someone help?
[09:20] <Matsy> linuxr: You just had it once?
[09:20] <__thuginc__> ave thnag i have try so far ant working
[09:20] <linuxr> Matsy, I think I had it some weeks ago, and now again
[09:20] <Matsy> linuxr: Try dmesg
[09:21] <EriC^^> __thuginc__: what exactly do you want?
[09:21] <linuxr> that's what I did, Matsy
[09:21] <Matsy> Oh, then also check in /var/log/syslog if anything happened
[09:21] <__thuginc__> i want to remove the white dots from  login
[09:21] <Matsy> What white dots?
[09:21] <linuxr> Matsy, I could not find anything indicating a problem
[09:21] <Skyrider> Now to soon reinstall znc and get my irc back..
[09:22] <EriC^^> __thuginc__: the logo while ubuntu loads?
[09:22] <Seveas> __thuginc__: you mean the password prompt?
[09:22] <__thuginc__> the white dots over the wallpaper in the logon screan
[09:22] <EriC^^> ohh
[09:22] <Matsy> OHHH
[09:22] <EriC^^> __thuginc__: type sudo -i
[09:23] <EriC^^> then xhost +local:
[09:24] <__thuginc__> ok
[09:24] <EriC^^> __thuginc__: then type su lightdm -s /bin/bash
[09:25] <__thuginc__> ok
[09:25] <EriC^^> then type dconf-editor , go to com > canonical .. unity-greeter
[09:25] <EriC^^> ( or something similar, and then remove the white dots on background )
[09:26] <EriC^^> __thuginc__: it's called draw grid, remove the check next to it
[09:26] <Matsy> EriC^^: Called draw-grid, iirc
[09:26] <Matsy> ah okay
[09:26] <Matt_teni> #stripe
[09:26] <EriC^^> Matsy: yeah, thanks :)
[09:27] <__thuginc__> thanks
[09:27] <__thuginc__> that  did it
[09:27] <__thuginc__> you guys rock
[09:27] <EriC^^> no problem
[09:28] <__thuginc__> ? do  you  know if mdm  will work in 15.04 ?
[09:28] <EriC^^> no idea
[09:28] <EriC^^> !info mdm
[09:28] <__thuginc__> ok
[09:29] <EriC^^> i don't even think it's in the repos
[09:29] <__thuginc__> lol
[09:29] <linuxr> anyone having problems with rtkit-daemon (temporary system freezes / keyboard mouse lock)? what is that thing good for anyway?
[09:29] <awtempler> Matsy: yes although I do have multiple versions of python....I do point to python2.7 before the build....but it still breaks
[09:30] <Matsy> awtempler: When you start /usr/bin/env python
[09:30] <Matsy> awtempler: What do you get?
[09:30] <Matsy> What version?
[09:31] <awtempler> python 2,7,6
[09:31] <Matsy> Weird then, I can't tell you more without the full build log
[09:35] <Sovek> Ok, something very weird is going on
[09:36] <Sovek> for the second time, my sudo password has been changed.... without me actually changing it
[09:36] <chaos7theory> Who has experience dual-booting Ubuntu with Windows on an SSD? How do you account for overprovisioning?
[09:36] <chaos7theory> Specifically Samsung's software does automatic overprovisioning after the last drive
[09:40] <Matsy> chaos7theory: So?
[09:41] <AppAraat> thanks wileee
[09:41] <AppAraat> as of now
[09:41] <AppAraat> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:41] <AppAraat>  libavcodec-extra-54 : Conflicts: libavcodec54 but 6:9.18-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 is installed.
[09:41] <AppAraat>  libavcodec54 : Conflicts: libavcodec-extra-54 but 6:9.18-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 is to be installed.
[09:41] <AppAraat> so far as I can see it they're the same packages, but called differently?
[09:41] <chaos7theory> Matsy: I'm wondering what's safer to do for the SSD, if to just create the Linux partitions after the OPed space
[09:42] <Matsy> chaos7theory: Everything is 'safe' for the SSD
[09:42] <AppAraat> wileee: would I be able to remove this package and all of what it installed if things go boom?
[09:42] <Matsy> It will just ake it a tad slower if you write over the OP
[09:42] <Matsy> At least, for Samsung disks. Don't know if other SSDs work the same way
[09:44] <wileee> AppAraat, probably a purge would, have not had or seen an issue with these packages regularly. You have a mini build it is part of the fun. ;)
[09:45] <Skyrider> Is it me..
[09:45] <Skyrider> or is installing things through ubuntu (ssh) faster than debian
[09:45] <Vowel> Newbie here. I need help installing this:  https://launchpad.net/~tomahawk/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[09:46] <Skyrider> know how the sources list work?
[09:47] <wileee> AppAraat, Check the sources.list that all the stock repos are open.
[09:47] <Matsy> Voltasalt: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tomahawk/ppa && sudo apt-get update
[09:49] <AppAraat> wileee: lol I guess. This machine I'm configuring is pretty much a skype caller for my grandparents. I gave them an Android tablet with skype but they couldn't get used to the interface lol.
[09:49] <OerHeks> !ppa | Voltasalt, carefull with ppa's    .
[09:49] <AppAraat> oh well, at least thanks for the help so far :)
[09:49] <Matsy> That's where you go wrong. Thinking Android tablets actually work
[09:49] <Tzunamii> haha
[09:50] <Matsy> Should've given them an iPad. I'm a heavy android user, but man, their tablets suck
[09:50] <AppAraat> Matsy: iPad would be my first choice as well. I agree.
[09:50] <AppAraat> but
[09:50] <Vowel> I had added the PPA but I don't know what to do now https://launchpad.net/~tomahawk/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[09:51] <AppAraat> Matsy: not when an iPad is worth a year of income :)
[09:51] <Matsy> Just install tomahawk?
[09:51] <AppAraat> ?
[09:51] <Vowel> How?
[09:51] <Vowel> sudo apt-get install  tomahawk?
[09:51] <Matsy> sudo apt-get install tomahawk
[09:51] <AppAraat> oh nvm
[09:52] <Matsy> That's what I'd assume
[09:52] <Vowel> Ah, okay. Thanks
[09:52] <Skyrider> dont you have to apt-get update after adding a ppa.
[09:52] <Matsy> Yeah you do, but I added that to the command
[09:52] <Skyrider> ah :)
[09:53] <Vowel> It's done. Thanks :)
[09:56] <pragomer1> what is the best / an actual ppa for ffmpeg under ubuntu 14.04 ?
[09:57] <Matsy> pragomer1: I wouldn't use a ppa for that
[09:57] <nanoz> what is spool file ?
[09:58] <Matsy> ffmpeg needs so much specific configuration, that using a ppa kinda defeats the purpose
[09:58] <pragomer1> Matsy: hi.. what would you do?
[09:58] <Matsy> hm
[09:58] <Ullarah> Silly question, but is there a way to activate a HDD on startup? I have my drives mounted, but I can't use them until I go and click on them individually in nautilus. For example, I have my steam games on another HDD, if I don't activate it, my games will not load.
[09:58] <Ullarah> Sorry if that doesn't make sense :/
[09:58] <Matsy> I'd just compile from source
[09:59] <pragomer1> its funny.. in 14.04 ffmpeg isnt in repos.. but mplayer1 is... in 15.04 ffmpeg is back.. but mplayer1 is gone.. that's  grrrrrrrrrrr.........
[10:02] <Skyrider> Sweet
[10:02] <Skyrider> my znc is working again
[10:06] <root___> mivan
[10:07] <OerHeks> !rootirc
[10:08] <linuxr> hehe
[10:08] <root___> hehe
[10:08] <root___> hehehe
[10:09] <root___> van itt valami háztáji linux börze?
[10:12] <root___> < hello! >
[10:12] <root___>  --------
[10:12] <root___>         \   ^__^
[10:12] <root___>          \  (oo)\_______
[10:12] <root___>             (__)\       )\/\
[10:12] <root___>                 ||----w |
[10:12] <Kartagis> not ubuntu specific, but does UTF-8 cover LTR languages?
[10:12] <cfhowlett> root___, stop
[10:12] <Kartagis> like Hebrew
[10:13] <Kartagis> or non-Latin languages
[10:14] <cfhowlett> host: ubuntu 14.04  guest: windows 7.  guest additions installed.  can't seem to add my mounted USB stick. no answer in #vbox as yet ...
[10:15] <root___>                   ."`".
[10:15] <root___>               .-./ _=_ \.-.
[10:15] <root___>              {  (,(oYo),) }}
[10:15] <root___>              {{ |   "   |} }
[10:15] <root___>              { { \(---)/  }}
[10:15] <root___>              {{  }'-=-'{ } }
[10:17] <root___> hello
[10:17] <bazhang> !hu
[10:17] <bazhang> root___, ^
[10:17] <root___> magyar vagyok
[10:17] <OerHeks> Kartagis, sure, "almost all Latin alphabets, and also Greek, Hebrew, Arabic, Syriac and Tāna alphabets " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-8
[10:18] <Kartagis> !hu | root___
[10:18] <Guest65251> username caccoolo
[10:19] <Kartagis> OerHeks: so export LC_LANG=he_HE.UTF-8 is better?
[10:22] <OerHeks> Kartagis, not sure LC_LANF=he_HE.UTF8 is correct, is this Hebrew?
[10:22] <Kartagis> aye
[10:22] <cfhowlett>  HexChat: 2.9.6 ** OS: Linux 3.16.0-43-lowlatency x86_64 ** Distro: Debian jessie/sid ** CPU: 8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4712HQ CPU @ 2.30GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 799MHz ** RAM: Physical: 15.6GB, 92.1% free ** Disk: Total: 458.1GB, 45.3% free ** VGA: 8086:0416 ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDMI1: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: None found ** Uptime: 6h 39m 2s **
[10:22] <hobbyist> Hi all, I am using ubuntu 14.04 on acer aspire. I suspect my fan is not working. My laptop automatically shuts down after a few minutes.
[10:22] <bazhang> overshare cfhowlett
[10:22] <hobbyist> Please help me out.
[10:23] <cfhowlett> bazhang, sorry.  should've sent it /msg me ...
[10:23] <bazhang> !sensors | hobbyist
[10:24] <OerHeks> Kartagis, locale -a # shows if it is available, else you find on this page how to add yours https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[10:24] <hobbyist> bazhang, thanks let me try
[10:24] <easyOnMe> has anyone here used filezilla on ubuntu before
[10:25] <easyOnMe> I need help on setting the associated program for certain file types
[10:25] <bazhang> easyOnMe, whats the exact issue
[10:26] <bazhang> !info filezilla
[10:26] <easyOnMe> I already have the path of the associated file but when I try to set the desired associated program it does open
[10:27] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingMimeTypes
[10:29] <nanoz>  RED='\033[0;31m'
[10:29] <nanoz>  what this does
[10:31]  * sbrikinais sboccia
[10:31] <easyOnMe> bazhang: have you read my issue
[10:31] <Skyrider> I'm curious...
[10:31] <Skyrider> in /var/lib/mysql, where are the user Privileges saved?
[10:32] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingMimeTypes easyOnMe OerHeks already gave this
[10:33] <easyOnMe> bazhang: ok thanks
[10:35] <easyOnMe> bazhang: I do not get this
[10:36] <easyOnMe> how is the resource given related to filezilla program association
[10:36] <CB6> how do you flush dns for ubuntu? I'm getting an interesting DNS error for chromium
[10:36] <bazhang> easyOnMe, what programs, where are they in the filesystem
[10:36] <CB6> DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
[10:37] <zaggynl> don t think ubuntu caches dns?
[10:37] <CB6> in windows the command is ipconfig /flushdns what's it in Ubuntu?
[10:37] <CB6> http://askubuntu.com/questions/414826/how-to-flush-dns-in-ubuntu-12-04 implied here suggests it might but I don't know
[10:38] <cfhowlett> !dns | CB6
[10:38] <CB6> I don't want to setup a DNS
[10:39] <zaggynl> have you tried changing dns server?
[10:39] <CB6> I just want to be able to load a friend's site in Chromium. The error is exclusive to Chromium.
[10:39] <OerHeks> Ubuntu by default does not provide DNS cache service.
[10:39] <OerHeks> * from your own url
[10:39] <zaggynl> ^
[10:39] <CB6> Then that's not the issue as articles suggest.
[10:39] <CB6> It is Chromium isolated though.
[10:39] <easyOnMe> bazhang: those that I work on in my local folders they are php js css and html files
[10:40] <OerHeks> CB6, if chromium only gives an error ( and not in Firefox) , clear the history in chromium
[10:40] <CB6> I've found Chromium to be sluggish.
[10:40] <easyOnMe> I want netbeans to open them for me when I double clicked on them in filezilla so that I after I work on them I can upload them immediately to the web server
[10:41] <hobbyist> ubottu, how can I know if the fan is working properly? I have installed lm-sensors. And issued the command sensors. but it only shows temperatures.
[10:42] <CB6> even after clearing the cache cookies etc I'm still getting the same error
[10:43] <hobbyist> bazhang, how can I know if the fan is working properly? I have installed lm-sensors. And issued the command sensors. but it only shows temperatures. I did not know ubottu is a bot. :P
[10:44] <CB6> Is chromium the official Linux version of Chrome?
[10:44] <cfhowlett> !info chromium
[10:48] <boodllebat> i have two monitors how to do split screen in ubutnu ?
[10:49] <OerHeks> !info chromium-browser
[10:49] <hobbyist> Hi all can anyone please tell me how to check if my fan is working properly?
[10:49] <EriC^^> do you hear it spinning?
[10:49] <EriC^^> install psensor and check the cpu temps
[10:50] <OerHeks> CB6, chromium is the opensource browser, google patches it and calls it chrome
[10:50] <CB6> k
[10:50] <bekks> Wasnt it the other way round? Google strips down patches and releases the stripped down version as Chromium?
[10:51] <OerHeks> bekks, no?
[10:51] <bekks> OerHeks: Thats why I'm asking :)
[10:52] <OerHeks> oh, wikipedia says you are right .. "Google releases the majority of Chrome's source code as an open-source project Chromium"
[10:52] <OerHeks> i would have bet on no :-D
[10:52] <cfhowlett> !xrandr | boodllebat,
[10:52] <bekks> OerHeks: :)
[10:53] <boodllebat> cfhowlett: solved thanks for your time :)
[10:53] <CB6> I'm running dual monitors
[10:53] <OerHeks> Thank you, learned something today
[10:53] <CB6> anyone running 4?
[10:53] <cfhowlett> boodllebat, happy2help!
[10:53] <CB6> I have two more monitors I'm considering running VM's on
[10:55] <linuxuz3r> amazon backed os cant play amazon instant video
[10:55] <linuxuz3r> ;(
[10:55] <bekks> linuxuz3r: Whats "amazon backed os"?
[10:56] <CB6> Wonder what OS most stock brokers use with all those monitors.
[10:56] <linuxuz3r> ubuntu
[10:56] <linuxuz3r> isnt amazon ec2 ubuntu based
[10:57] <CB6> Google stopped using windows about 5 years ago. What are they typically running?
[10:57] <CB6> It isn't those stupid netbooks.
[10:58] <bekks> CB6: "Google" has a gazillion of computers - that question cannot be answered with a single OS.
[10:58] <CB6> Commonality not all :P
[10:58] <CB6> desktop not server based
[10:58] <bekks> linuxuz3r: So you are using an Ubuntu EC2 installation?
[10:58] <linuxuz3r> no but i cant play amazon instant video on my ubuntu
[10:59] <CB6> I constantly get the no flash errors on sites :|
[10:59] <bekks> linuxuz3r: So you arent using Ubuntu?
[10:59] <OerHeks> flash is dead
[10:59] <CB6> sure but how are people viewing pages with it then?
[10:59] <linuxuz3r> flash not dead
[10:59] <bekks> linuxuz3r: Flash is dead.
[11:00] <linuxuz3r> oh well
[11:00] <linuxuz3r> ubuntu is still ok
[11:00] <linuxuz3r> awesome
[11:01] <bekks> CB6: Adobe stopped the linux development for flash a long time ago. Adobe and Google develop PepperFlash on Linux.
[11:01] <bekks> linuxuz3r: So are you using Ubuntu?
[11:01] <linuxuz3r> yes
[11:01] <bekks> linuxuz3r: You said you arent :)
[11:01] <CB6> Is Pepperflash any good for viewing then?
[11:02] <bekks> CB6: Yeah, you just have to install Chrome.
[11:02] <CB6> especially security wise
[11:02] <CB6> I have chromium browser and still can't view a lot of videos.
[11:02] <CB6> Not all but a lot
[11:02] <CB6> news sites etc
[11:02] <OerHeks> CB6, this page says no, use the regular flash plugin > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash
[11:02] <bekks> CB6: Chromium isnt Chrome. Chromium does NOT use PepperFlash.
[11:02] <OerHeks> or chrome with build-in pepperflash
[11:02] <bekks> CB6: Thats why I said Chrome.
[11:03] <CB6> Which is better Chromium or Chrome?
[11:03] <OerHeks> CB6, whatever you like. there is no single best
[11:03] <bekks> CB6: Chromium doesnt use PepperFlash. Chrome does.
[11:03] <bekks> CB6: Decide yourself.
[11:04] <AppAraat> I just realized that there is only one issue I have to deal with before I can upgrade my main machine from 12.04 to Ubuntu 14.04... the broken bash completion :(
[11:05] <bekks> AppAraat: And why does it prevent the upgrade?
[11:05] <AppAraat> navigating through the files is broken on the CLI in that case.
[11:05] <bekks> AppAraat: You dont need bash completion for navigating hrough files.
[11:05] <AppAraat> and I have no idea which files to modify and whether it's the fault of my bashrc.
[11:06] <AppAraat> this is one of my aliases: alias ll='ls -l --all --human-readable --classify --show-control-chars --group-directories-first --color=auto'
[11:06] <AppAraat> bekks: When I do ll .tmux for example, it doesn't complete (there is .tmux.conf and .tmux/) also when I try to ll /etc/ it doesn't complete the files and dirs there.
[11:07] <AppAraat> I'm not sure whether that's bash completion, but it's one of the tab completions.
[11:07] <bekks> AppAraat: ls -lha .tmux
[11:08] <AppAraat> bekks: http://kpaste.net/4d2cb30
[11:08] <bekks> AppAraat: I dont need that output. But as you can see, cd and ls are sufficient for navigation and upgrading, you dont need ll
[11:09] <AppAraat> but ll is one of the many aliases that I use which make it more comfortable
[11:09] <AppAraat> are you saying that I should upgrade and face broken functionality?
[11:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:09] <AppAraat> hi
[11:10] <bekks> AppAraat: You self-defined ll functionality is broken. Thats nothing what prvents an upgrade.
[11:10] <OerHeks> AppAraat, you put the blame on us, while you could backup that alias ??
[11:10] <OerHeks> come on, get real
[11:10] <bekks> AppAraat: In the last 20 years, I literally never used ll at all.
[11:11] <AppAraat> I don't put blame on anyone, I just want to know what (completion) file I should change for my aliases to work.
[11:11] <AppAraat> alias llt='ls -l -t --all --human-readable --classify --show-control-chars --group-directories-first --color=auto'
[11:11] <AppAraat> this is another I use
[11:11] <bekks> AppAraat: Fix your alias.
[11:11] <AppAraat> in what way is it broken?
[11:11] <bekks> AppAraat: I dont know how, since I never used ll.
[11:11] <bekks> AppAraat: ^^
[11:11] <bomberman_> how can i shut down the process, like in windows?
[11:11] <bekks> bomberman_: Shutdown which process?
[11:11] <lasers> AppAraat: ll .tmux*
[11:11] <bomberman_> mozilla
[11:12] <bekks> bomberman_: Click on the close icon?
[11:12] <bomberman_> its dont work
[11:12] <AppAraat> lasers: but .tmux doesn't complete on tab.
[11:13] <AppAraat> I guess this is a question more suited for #bash then.
[11:13] <bekks> bomberman_: File -> Quit? :)
[11:13] <bomberman_> let's try this
[11:13] <bekks> AppAraat: At least it's not an issue preventing an upgrade to 14.04
[11:14] <AppAraat> it was just an example, it makes it more time consuming to navigate the FS tree.
[11:14] <CB6> Is there an equivalent cache on Ubuntu like DNS flush?
[11:14] <bomberman_> can u give me a command , to close mozilla?
[11:15] <bekks> AppAraat: You dont even need to navigate at all for upgrading...
[11:15] <bekks> bomberman_: File -> Quit
[11:15] <CB6> fresh install of chrome in addtion to chromium doesn't resolve the page just firefox. Clearing the cache in chromium didn't work either and chrome is fresh install
[11:15] <bekks> CB6: Forget Firefox and Chromium, they are irrelevant for Chrome.
[11:15] <cfhowlett> db6 new to this discussion.  if ffox not working for you?
[11:16] <AppAraat> bekks: right, but if I upgrade to a system I expect it to be in many ways better than my previous one. Broken navigation (which I use pretty frequently) is not what I would call an upgrade in this case, so as such I am trying to solve it before upgrading.
[11:16] <bekks> cfhowlett: Flash is broken on a lot of sites, for him.
[11:16] <CB6> the site I am trying to view isn't flash
[11:16] <cfhowlett> bekks, oh.  well, yeah.  flash is dying out ...
[11:16] <CB6> it's just only viewable on FF
[11:16] <bekks> CB6: So which site is it?
[11:17] <CB6> flash question was just relevant to browser issues of Ubuntu experience
[11:17] <CB6> jayknowscash.com an affiliate marketing site an industry peer has. isitdownorjustme.com shows it up and working
[11:17] <bomberman_> which file? that's didn't work, file command not found (
[11:18] <CB6> I'm tempted to pull up a windows install and see if chrome on there resolves it.
[11:18] <bekks> Site works fine here, in Chrome.
[11:18] <CB6> ok so some sort of local cache issue is blocking it?
[11:18] <ioria> bomberman_, ctrl + w not working ?
[11:18] <OerHeks> CB6, maybe your router is the issue?
[11:18] <bekks> CB6: Why do you think is a "local caching issue"?
[11:19] <CB6> because an article said to go ipconfig /flushdns which is a windows command to flush it. Also said the error is explicit to chrome
[11:19] <bekks> Forget Windows articles when trying to solve non-Windows issues :)
[11:19] <bekks> This aint Windows. :)
[11:20] <CB6> ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED is a different error from that posted earlier
[11:20] <bekks> A local DNS caching issue would affect firefox as well.
[11:21] <OerHeks> CB6 bekks we have been there before, no caching in ubuntu standard. seek the error outside your pc, like your router
[11:21] <bomberman_> bekks: ctrl+w didn't work
[11:21] <CB6> right but I'm not familiar with whatever caching ubuntu has so I am wondering browser aside what to flush out lol
[11:21] <CB6> k
[11:21] <OerHeks> bomberman_, pkill firefox #should close it
[11:22] <ioria> bomberman_, ps -A | grep firefox
[11:22] <bomberman_> OerHeks , thx
[11:22] <bomberman_> that's work fine)
[11:23] <bomberman_> simply i dont know a name of mozilla
[11:23] <bomberman_> it was firefox)
[11:23] <CB6> DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN is the error I got before
[11:23] <bomberman_> thx everyone
[11:23] <OerHeks> bomberman_, have fun :-)
[11:25] <no0bix> hello everyone, anyone here knew how to make google-chrome incognito the default browser for ubuntu? I mean, when I open a link it will just call chrome incognito mode.
[11:26] <OerHeks> no0bix, make a custom launcher ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[11:26] <linuxr> OerHeks, you can try to use the -ingognito switch of the chrome binary
[11:26] <linuxr> no0bix I mean, not OerHeks :D
[11:27] <ufk> apport takes 100CPU, service apport stop doesn't stop it. any ideas ?
[11:27] <no0bix> OerHeks: Sorry, what I mean is to set it to default browser. I mean, for example, when I encountered a link in my terminal perhaps. It will just open on the incognito mode.
[11:27] <no0bix> linuxr: If you don't mind, could you show me some link on how to do it?
[11:28] <linuxr> no0bix, check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1871645
[11:29] <kills> hi
[11:29] <kills> I am having problems installing skype on 14.04
[11:30] <no0bix> linuxr: If I get it correctly, I believe that this would just create a shortcut?
[11:32] <linuxr> no0bix, yes thats just how to start chrome in incognito mode. How to set as default browser, I don't know...
[11:33] <linuxr> have you checked this, no0bix ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/461943/how-do-i-open-chromium-in-incognito-mode-by-default
[11:35] <no0bix> thanks linuxr, I am currently reading it. Actually, I am having a problem with setting the default browser for gnome-terminal. Do you know how to set it. I have tried adding export BROWSER=/usr/bin/google-chrome --incognito to my bashrc file but it didn't work.
[11:36] <bekks> no0bix: You would have to set BROWSER="...."
[11:36] <no0bix> bekks: Yeah, I have set it but it didn't work I guess. I had already sourced it also.
[11:37] <bekks> no0bix: No, you didnt use "" :)
[11:38] <no0bix> bekks: Ah, alright. thanks. I will try it out. :)
[11:38] <brainwash> echo $BROWSER
[11:39] <no0bix> linuxr: I guess that the solution didn't work for me.
[11:39] <linuxr> no0bix, did the instructions on askubuntu not fix that? I could imagine that once you put the link in the local share directory, it is valid for all applications. maybe you need to restart your desktop enviroment after you added the link
[11:40] <linuxr> no0bix, this maybe? http://askubuntu.com/questions/42344/how-do-i-change-the-browser-that-gnome-terminal-opens-links-with
[11:40] <no0bix> brainwash: the value is '/usr/bin/google-chrome --incognito'
[11:41] <no0bix> bekks: I had already changed it but it didn't work still.
[11:43] <no0bix> linuxr: maybe I can set it to the configuration editor? Do you know how to do it. I had remembered changing some settings there before?
[11:43] <linuxr> no0bix, I would try the link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/42344/how-do-i-change-the-browser-that-gnome-terminal-opens-links-with
[11:44] <linuxr> just point to chrome --incognito or to a shell script containing this
[11:46] <bekks> linuxr: you cannot point to an application with options.
[11:46] <Pivetta> Hi dear ubuntu users, I have a question, I`m installing nVidia cuda drivers for a tower computer, but actually I`m running there the OS on my usb stick, I wonder If I can install the drivers on my machine and if they would work there, I have here a GeForce 560m, the tower pc has got an nVidia Quadro, the drivers I`m using are the ones I`ve got with
[11:46] <Pivetta>  wget from developer.nvidia.downloads.
[11:46] <linuxr> bekks, then create a script with the full options, and point to that
[11:47] <bekks> linuxr: Yeah.
[11:47] <bekks> Pivetta: Why dont you use a repository for the drivers? :)
[11:48] <OerHeks> Pivetta, leave those drivers, and use the ones provided in restricted drivers menu
[11:48] <Pivetta> bekks: cause I`m working with caffe and cuDNN libraries
[11:48] <Pivetta> I actually need the drivers from nvidia, but I just don`t know if they install different software for every graphic card or if they use a generic driver
[11:48] <no0bix> linuxr: I have tried it but it didn't work still. I mean, it does work with /usr/bin/firefox but it wouldn't accept the --incognito option?
[11:49] <bekks> no0bix: Correct.
[11:49] <bekks> no0bix: So just use a wrapper script you are pointing to.
[11:49] <no0bix> bekks: What do you mean by a wrapper script?
[11:49] <no0bix> a function?
[11:50] <bekks> no0bix: No. A script. Not a function.
[11:50] <no0bix> bekks: a bash script?
[11:50] <bekks> no0bix: Yes.
[11:50] <linuxr> no0bix, create a little shell script containing the complete path and parameters, and make it executable, then enter this as application
[11:50] <no0bix> ok, I will just try it.
[11:55] <linuxr> maybe there should be an option in the settings manager which offers start in private mode...most browsers support this afaik
[11:55] <al2o3-cr> no0bix: /usr/bin/firefox --private-window
[11:56] <no0bix> bekks: linuxr: It didn't work either. I had just created a simple script that calls /usr/bin/google-chrome --incognito
[11:56] <bekks> no0bix: Did you add a shebang to the scrit and made it executable?
[11:56] <bekks> *script
[11:57] <no0bix> yeah, I had tested it also. It does open when ./.called
[11:57] <linuxr> shebang? what is that? :D
[11:57] <bekks> no0bix: What does "./.called" mean?
[11:57] <no0bix> linuxr: #!
[11:57] <al2o3-cr> linuxr: #/bin/bash
[11:57] <al2o3-cr> yep that
[11:58] <linuxr> hehe...nice one thanks no0bix , al2o3-cr
[11:58] <no0bix> I mean, I had created a test script locally and then created a symbolic link on the /usr/local/bin folder
[11:58] <bekks> no0bix: Dont use symbolic links. Create the script in /usr/local/bin/
[11:59] <no0bix> bekks: I had just noticed that the export BROWSER is not working? I mean, I had tried to add /usr/bin/firefox on it but the link would still open on chrome?
[12:00] <no0bix> bekks: It just works the same even though you will use symbolic links on it. :)
[12:00] <no0bix> bekks: At least from my experience.
[12:02] <no0bix> bekks: maybe I can add a default editor on gconf-settings? Do you know how to do it like this one.
[12:03] <al2o3-cr> no0bix: what are you tryin to do?
[12:03] <al2o3-cr> *trying
[12:05] <no0bix> Hello al2o3-cr, I am trying to set my gnome-terminal to open links on chrome incognito.
[12:05] <al2o3-cr> ah
[12:05] <oleg_> 124
[12:05] <no0bix> sorry I haven't read your prev mess.
[12:06] <no0bix> al2o3-cr: Do you know how to do it?
[12:06] <no0bix> *message.
[12:06] <ioria> no0bix, and why do you want to open it in terminal ?
[12:07] <linuxr> ioria, why not?
[12:07] <ioria> linuxr, oh ... i got it
[12:07] <no0bix> ioria: for eg: I am currently using weechat as my irc client and I opened it via gnome-terminal. I just wanted to open the links here directly to incognito.
[12:08] <OerHeks> no0bix, don open weechat tru terminal then, solved
[12:09] <no0bix> linuxr: Do you know any other ways on changing the default browser. Excluding the System Settings one?
[12:09] <no0bix> OerHeks: I would just like to open it via the terminal since I had set my own Profiles here.
[12:09] <OerHeks> you are really making it harder for yourself.
[12:09] <no0bix> OerHeks: Are there any other ways to open weechat?
[12:10] <no0bix> OerHeks: I guess it could be a learning experience also.
[12:10] <al2o3-cr> weechat is curses based
[12:10] <linuxr> no0bix, no..but I think it should work via the "preferred applications" system settings
[12:11] <ioria> no0bix, where is your link to chrome /usr/bin/chrome-browser ?
[12:11] <al2o3-cr> no0bix: to open chrome in incognito mode use -incognito
[12:11] <no0bix> ioria: it is in /usr/bin/google-chrome
[12:12] <no0bix> linuxr: Yeah, but I guess I just couldn't choose incognito there? Or maybe I am missing something.
[12:13] <linuxr> no0bix, no, not directly. that's why you need to create a new shell script and select this (thats a little workaround)
[12:13] <no0bix> al2o3-cr: yeah, I believe that it is done that way. But I just couldn't set it as a default browser. I mean, I have a shortcut for incognito also.
[12:14] <al2o3-cr> no0bix: what does update-alternative --config x-www-browser say?
[12:14] <no0bix> linuxr: yeah, I had created this one http://paste.ubuntu.com/11941642/
[12:15] <linuxr> no0bix, looks good...does it work when you directly execute this?
[12:15] <al2o3-cr> no0bix: it's one hyphen not two
[12:16] <no0bix> al2o3-cr: this is the result http://paste.ubuntu.com/11941649/
[12:16] <ioria> no0bix, i use firefox ... i got a script in /usr/bin/firefox ... modify it with an option and now firefox start with that option ... i don't now chrome ... maybe the same
[12:16] <no0bix> linuxr: it does work when I called it directly.
[12:16] <ioria> *k
[12:17] <al2o3-cr> no0bix: is -incognito not --incognito
[12:17] <al2o3-cr> it is*
[12:17] <linuxr> no0bix, okay great. and when you choose this script in "preffered applications" -> web browser, and then restart, it doesnt work?
[12:18] <no0bix> al2o3-cr: I believe that they just work either way.
[12:19] <al2o3-cr> ah, you're right :p
[12:19] <al2o3-cr> should of checked first
[12:20] <no0bix> ioria: I don't know if I can change that? I mean, I am not that good with bash.
[12:21] <al2o3-cr> no0bix: try this: gconftool-2 -t string -s /desktop/gnome/applications/browser/exec "/usr/bin/google-chrome-stable --incognito"
[12:21] <ioria> no0bix, can you paste cat /usr/bin/google-chrome ?
[12:21] <no0bix> linuxr: Sorry, would you mind telling me were can I change it?
[12:21] <Pivetta> does anyone knows if the third party drivers from nvidia are generic drivers or if I have to install them on the right machine?
[12:22] <no0bix> ioria: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/11941677/
[12:22] <linuxr> no0bix, in the GUI (settings -> preferred applications -> web browser)...probably does the same thing as al2o3-cr just posted
[12:23] <ioria> no0bix, make a copy of the file , and at the end after "$@"  add your options
[12:24] <no0bix> linuxr: I am using ubuntu 12.04 with Unity disabled.
[12:25] <Pivetta> the guide I`m following compiles a file that is /usr/local/cuda/samples/1_Utilities/deviceQuery , Does the video card be recognized there?
[12:25] <linuxr> no0bix, oh well then..try al2o3-cr 's suggestion
[12:25] <vector_> Hi all, I'm trying to download apt updates but I get a CDROM issue
[12:27] <Trerot> Im having trouble finding an OS that can be installed on a 8GB ssd...
[12:28] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | Trerot,
[12:29] <Trerot> So far i have just tried latest lts peppermint and latest lts linux-lite
[12:29] <no0bix> linuxr: Ok. al2o3-cr : I guess it kinda worked but the --incognito was passed as a url.
[12:29] <Trerot> nice! il grab a look
[12:29] <no0bix> ioria: it does run as an incognito. Would you like me to change the google-chrome into the new file?
[12:29] <vector_> I don't have a cdrom drive on my computer, to update my atp is giving me errors due to that. What can I do about it?
[12:30] <linuxr> no0bix, so did it start in incognito mode or not? :)
[12:31] <no0bix> linuxr: it did. :)
[12:31] <no0bix> linuxr: I guess the problem now is how to pass the paremeter?
[12:31] <ioria> no0bix, your call :-)
[12:32] <linuxr> no0bix, when it opened in incognito, the parameter was passed correctly, no?
[12:33] <vector_> Anyone mind helping me?
[12:33] <cfhowlett> vector_, you don't need a cdrom to update apt
[12:34] <vector_> It seems to me giving  me a constant error about mount points
[12:34] <linuxuz3r> xD
[12:34] <no0bix> linuxr: sorry, I messed up with my answer. it does run on normal mode but it passed the incognito as a url parameter. For example : http://www.digg.com%20--incognito/
[12:34] <Trerot> does lubuntu ask for "at least 8.6 GB available drive space" when installing?
[12:35] <no0bix> ioria: will the new updates affect it if I change the file?
[12:35] <k1l> !paste | vector_ put the errormessages there including the command used
[12:35] <cfhowlett> Trerot, it does not
[12:35] <linuxr> no0bix, oh I see :D
[12:35] <ioria> no0bix, you should back up the original file and use the modified one... if something wrong you reverse it
[12:35] <Skyrider> Mmhh
[12:35] <Skyrider> Its the first time I'm officially using ubuntu as server..
[12:36] <Skyrider> Noticed that ubuntu uses more swap than memory, while debian uses more memory over sswap.
[12:36] <Skyrider> Is that normal?
[12:36] <no0bix> ioria: I am really sorry but I am really hesitant on this solution?
[12:36] <vector_> Will do, give me one second
[12:36] <ioria> no0bix, i see
[12:36] <no0bix> linuxr: yeah, something is kinda wrong i guess?
[12:36] <linuxr> no0bix, was that your shell script or the exact suggestion of al2o3-cr ?
[12:36] <k1l> Skyrider: look at the swappiness settings then
[12:36] <Trerot> cfhowlett: thanks mate =P then il download it straight away
[12:37] <cfhowlett> Trerot, better results if you .torrent it
[12:37] <no0bix> ioria: ok, thanks. But I guess your solution works also. I haven't tried changing it though.
[12:37] <ioria> no0bix, ok
[12:38] <no0bix> linuxr: I have done what al2o3-cr suggested. It just passed the --incognito as a parameter but I think that it is a bit closer to the solution.
[12:38] <linuxr> no0bix, you could try with "/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome --incognito %U" instead, or if that does not work, with your script
[12:38] <vector_> Alright, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/11941735/
[12:39] <Trerot> cfhowlett: im getting around 400KB/s which is about the entire capacity of this spot(not at home)
[12:39] <Trerot> its more than enough i guess =P
[12:39] <cfhowlett> Trerot, torrent has more robust error checking but ... YMMV
[12:39] <vector_> This is probably a simple problem, just started using Linux a day ago.
[12:40] <k1l> vector_: so you want to use the internet connection? and its giving that error about cd?
[12:40] <cfhowlett> vector_, you've installed apt-cdrom?
[12:40] <Trerot> cfhowlett: that is true.. then i dont have to redownload the entire think and just recheck the download..
[12:40] <Trerot> thing*
[12:40] <cfhowlett> Trerot, well you really SHOULD md5sum the .iso regardless of the download method ...
[12:41] <cfhowlett> vector_, scratch that.  apt-cdrom is a command not a program
[12:41] <Trerot> or i can just download it with http and then add a torrent to the file location if it fails
[12:41] <no0bix> linuxr: I believe the it is still passing the incognito on the url?
[12:41] <vector_> k1il_: I didn't know there was a different method aside from internet connection
[12:41] <linuxr> no0bix, have you tried adding the "%U" parameter at the end?
[12:41] <vector_> cfhowlett: yes, it goes through the downloads in command prompt but then it gives me that error
[12:42] <linuxr> no0bix, I think that was missing in al2o3-cr suggestion
[12:42] <no0bix> ioria: I have tried adding the script on the gconf-editor also but it kinda passed the incognito on the url?
[12:42] <no0bix> linuxr: yeah, I had added the %U also.
[12:42] <cfhowlett> vector_, so you have a bad cdrom.  try making a USB
[12:42] <ioria> no0bix, sorry, never used gconf-editor
[12:43] <k1l> vector_: look into the system settings (i dont know for xfce actually) there is a settings for the updates. look into there and make sure "cdrom" is unchecked.
[12:43] <k1l> vector_: issue right now is it looks for the cd to make the update.
[12:43] <linuxr> no0bix, so it looks like "... google-chrome-stable --incognito %U" ?
[12:43] <no0bix> ioria: that's just fine. I have learnt something new today anyway. :)
[12:44] <hobbyist> Hi lm-sensor does not seem to access motherboard sensors. Any help pleasE?
[12:44] <no0bix> linuxr: yeah, it does looks like that one. I have even tried backticks but it just throw an error. I guess I had messed up with those changes.
[12:44] <vector_> k1l: I just unchecked it, earlier today I checked it under the assumption that the more updates the better
[12:44] <ioria> no0bix, i think now ubuntu uses dconf-editor
[12:44] <hobbyist> I am not able to configure my cpu fan.
[12:45] <linuxr> no0bix, theres another variant...do you have a file like this: /etc/chromium-browser/default ?
[12:47] <no0bix> ioria, linuxr : is it alright if I can get back on this channel again? I guess I had created a problem. I can't even open google-chrome --incognito now. :)
[12:47] <no0bix> ioria: linuxr : I will just try to fix it if you don't mind.
[12:47] <molgrum> why isn't gnaural in the repos?
[12:47] <ioria> no0bix, what did you do ?
[12:48] <linuxr> n0fuq, no worries
[12:48] <linuxr> no0bix I mean, not n0fuq ;)
[12:50] <no0bix> ioria: linuxr : Sorry, I guess I had changed the chrome binary files. :)
[12:51] <no0bix> I had returned it again. I guess the gconf didn't work after all? I mean, I had just added the changes on /usr/bin/google-chrome. I am really sorry for messing up.
[12:52] <linuxr> no0bix, of course you must not touch the binaries ;)
[12:52] <no0bix> linuxr: sorry for that, I was just thinking that I am editing the copied file. ;)
[12:53] <linuxr> no0bix, thats no drama :)
[12:55] <no0bix> ioria: linuxr: I just don't understand this one. I have copied the /usr/bin/google-chrome to /usr/bin/chrome-new. When I open it via the terminal 'chrome-new'. It opens the incognito mode but when I use it on gconf-editor it pass incognito as a parameter?
[12:56] <ioria> no0bix, sorry... what did you do ?
[12:56] <linuxr> no0bix, now I can't follow you...why do you want to duplicate the chrome binary?
[12:57] <linuxr> that will break as soon as you install a new version of chrome
[12:57] <no0bix> ioria: It is fine now. I had edited the orig file. :)
[12:58] <ioria> no0bix, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11941677/    this, what you posted, it's just the starting script ... it's not the binary !
[12:58] <no0bix> linuxr: I had passed the incognito param on the binary file directly. It wasn't a binary file btw. It is just a normal bash file. I thought it woudld be a bin also.
[13:00] <no0bix> ioria: yeah, it wasn't a binary file. I did thought that everything on /bin would be binary except for my scripts but I just knew something new today I guess.
[13:00] <ioria> no0bix, good :þ
[13:00] <linuxr> no0bix, ah okay now I see again where you are. Thats why I suggested the "%U" parameter. I think the gconf-setting is not correct the way you entered it
[13:01] <no0bix> ioria: :)
[13:01] <no0bix> linuxr: I had opened the gconf-editor gui directly.
[13:03] <linuxr> no0bix, also check this out (especially the last post) askubuntu.com/questions/159630/how-do-i-make-google-chrome-open-incognito-by-default
[13:05] <Oderic> hello
[13:05] <Oderic> everybody
[13:05] <Oderic> i have a question please
[13:06] <cfhowlett> Oderic, 1.  stop hitting the <enter> key.  2.  ask your question
[13:06] <Oderic> i would like create a personnal dns on tor server with scallion or eschalot ...
[13:07] <no0bix> linuxr: thanks. It did work but I am kinda worried about this solution. :)
[13:08] <no0bix> linuxr: I mean, there were root files I suppose.
[13:09] <Trerot> cfhowlett: lubuntu installation ask me to have at least 8.6GB availabe drive space
[13:11] <cfhowlett> Trerot, recommedned not mandated
[13:11] <Trerot> cfhowlett: i cant press continue..
[13:12] <cfhowlett> !mini | Trerot,
[13:12] <k1l> Trerot: you still can do a minimal install and install only what you need
[13:14] <thecoolguy> hello
[13:14] <Trerot> k1l: downloading minimal install image now =)
[13:14] <codepython777> is anyone running the AMD R7 370 on ubuntu here? Driver issues ?
[13:15] <linuxr> no0bix, what do you mean with root-files? this can be a solution entirely private to your user
[13:16] <linuxr> ah no0bix, you mean the "/etc/" solution
[13:16] <no0bix> linuxr: I mean, it was owned by root. But I guess I can just do this one also? I am kinda worried when there are new updates. It might or might not change?
[13:16] <no0bix> linuxr: yeah. :)
[13:17] <linuxr> no0bix, yes thats a global solution. but if you're the only person on the computer and always want private mode, that's perfectly fine
[13:18] <PiL> hey all, im not getting full international characters, how can i tell if im in utf-16
[13:19] <no0bix> linuxr: Ok, thanks. I believe that I would just settle with this solution for now. Thanks again.
[13:19] <linuxr> no0bix, no problem
[13:20] <slani_> wc
[13:21] <no0bix> also thanks to everyone who had helped me. ioria, linuxr, al2o3-cr, bekks
[13:26] <schov> hi I have 2 monitors and displays the resolution fine while the other isn't displaying native resolution. any tips?
[13:29] <EriC^^> !xrandr
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> schov  arandr is a gui for xrandr
[13:29] <schov> let me check
[13:31] <pz3Gull> Hi Everyone!
[13:33] <pz3Gull> What is the difference between the 14.04.2 and the 14.04.5 release ?
[13:33] <Daniel> oi
[13:33] <cfhowlett> pz3Gull, there is no 14.04.5
[13:34] <Guest32955> oi
[13:34] <Guest32955> Blw
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> pz3Gull  14.04.3 will be released in august
[13:34] <Guest32955> tudo bem
[13:34] <pz3Gull> There is 14.04.5 in the "alternative downloads"
[13:34] <cfhowlett> Guest32955, ask your ubuntu questions
[13:34] <cfhowlett> pz3Gull, link??
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> pz3Gull  you mean 12.04.
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> pz3Gull  you mean 12.04.5
[13:34] <pz3Gull> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[13:35] <cfhowlett> pz3Gull, read again.  there IS NO 14.04.5
[13:35] <Daniel39> oi
[13:35] <pz3Gull> Oh, Sorry :$
[13:36] <Daniel39> oi
[13:36] <Daniel39> tudo bem
[13:36] <badbodh> oi Daniel39
[13:36] <Daniel39> sim
[13:36] <cfhowlett> !english | Daniel39
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> !br
[13:36] <Daniel39> ok
[13:37] <Daniel39> como eu meto o Anonymous em portuges pff
[13:37] <no0bix> linuxr, ioria, al2o3-cr, OerHeks, bekks. Sorry, I guess creating a new .desktop file works also. I haven't just replaced all the instances of the exec command. Anyways, thank you all again.
[13:37] <badbodh> i propose official ubuntu channel for minion language
[13:38] <Daniel39> eu nao sei como meter em portuges o Anonynous e foda
[13:39] <Daniel39> add skype/  daniel.pereira596
[13:40] <badbodh> Daniel39: for portuguese join #ubuntu-pt or #ubuntu-br
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> Daniel39  type /j #ubuntu-pt
[13:42] <Daniel39> obrigado
[13:43] <jacob_> allahu akbar
[13:43] <zeke> hello ubuntu
[13:43] <jacob_> is there someone by the name of aidan here
[13:43] <Guest36857> is there anyone in here with the name of aidan that lives in australia
[13:44] <rharish> anyone here who's used or knows how to configure groupwise ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GroupWise
[13:50] <eeee> exit
[13:52] <CB6> Is there any way to stream or connect to ubuntu from an ipad?
[13:56] <Diogo> Ola
[13:57] <cfhowlett> !es | Diogo
[13:57] <Diogo> sou o portugues
[13:57] <cfhowlett> !pt | Diogo
[13:57] <CB6> lol
[13:58] <CB6> !de
[13:58] <CB6> just in case jk
[13:58] <cfhowlett> please don't do that
[13:58] <Diogo> sou de portugal
[13:59] <Diogo> portugal
[13:59] <Diogo> sou de portugal
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> !pt | Diogo
[14:00] <CB6> lol Portuguese for Portugual option?
[14:00] <CB6> he's implying he's not from Brazilia :P
[14:01] <nick_x> hi everyone, is there a way to hide the username@system in the terminal, or at least replace it with some kind of cloak?
[14:01] <nick_x> am i muted?
[14:01] <nick_x> hello?
[14:02] <CB6> Eu não acho que há um canal Português. Estou usando o Google Translate, mas usar o canal sugerido a menos que você planeja falar em Inglês.
[14:02] <CB6> nick no
[14:02] <cfhowlett> nick_x, ask your ubuntu question
[14:02] <nick_x> ok
[14:02] <EriC^^> nick_x: man -P "less -p ^PROMPTING" bash
[14:02] <nick_x> told you
[14:02] <EriC^^> look into PS1
[14:03] <CB6> Why does one want to do this?
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> his real name is george bush
[14:04] <CB6> well that's a 70's show everyone's already seen.
[14:04] <nick_x> EriC^^ : it says what manual do you want ?
[14:04] <EriC^^> nick_x: must have a typo somewhere
[14:04] <EriC^^> nick_x: did you type bash at the end?
[14:05] <nick_x> CB6
[14:05] <nick_x> : I am a bit paranoid and i am doing a report on a program, i don't want people know my id and everything
[14:05] <nick_x> EriC^^ : yes i do
[14:05] <nick_x> i type bash at the end
[14:05] <EriC^^> nick_x: type PS1="Yes Master? "
[14:05] <CB6> If one did a report on a program do a replace command on the text file for your user id
[14:06] <nick_x> isn't there a straight forward solution? to replace the whole @-ish string with something?
[14:06] <agend> hi - what's the usual nr o open files (result of lsof|wc -l ) i get about 65000 - is it normal?
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> agend  68502 here
[14:07] <nick_x> EriC^^ : you kidding right?
[14:07] <EriC^^> nick_x: am i?
[14:07] <agend> ok - thanks
[14:07] <nick_x> dunno
[14:07] <nick_x> i am not Bush, help me people
[14:07] <CB6> Is that an autonomous manual :P
[14:07] <CB6> ie a bot
[14:07] <Smilerut> hey
[14:08] <EriC^^> nick_x: just type PS1="$" if you want
[14:08] <Smilerut> so, I was installing kde-desktop on ubuntu
[14:08] <EriC^^> or whatever
[14:08] <Smilerut> and then I restarded, like an idiot
[14:08] <Smilerut> while it was running
[14:08] <nick_x> ok
[14:08] <Smilerut> then, when I booted back up it told me to run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:08] <Smilerut> and I did
[14:08] <EriC^^> nick_x: i was giving you an example of a silly line you could put
[14:08] <Smilerut> and now I wonder, what should I do>
[14:08] <nick_x> though i love Bush
[14:08] <nick_x> ;)
[14:08] <Smilerut> is kde-desktop installed or not
[14:08] <nick_x> not really
[14:08] <Smilerut> er
[14:08] <Smilerut> kubuntu-desktop**
[14:08] <CB6> umm
[14:09] <cfhowlett> Smilerut, logout.  choose kubuntu session.  login.
[14:10] <Smilerut> kubuntu session is not there.
[14:10] <cfhowlett> Smilerut, that suggests your installation failed.  repeat
[14:10] <Smilerut> alright
[14:11] <CB6> Does anyone remote in from their ipad or S5 (Android) phones?
[14:11] <Smilerut> er
[14:11] <Smilerut> ""
[14:11] <Smilerut> "kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version."
[14:11] <Smilerut> cfhowlett: this is a bit confusing
[14:12] <cfhowlett> Smilerut, sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop
[14:12] <cfhowlett> Smilerut, followed by sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:12] <Smilerut> cfhowlett: the install was frighteningly quick
[14:12] <Smilerut> is this normal?
[14:13] <Smilerut> it just unpacked stuff
[14:13] <cfhowlett> Smilerut, depends on your isp and your software sources.
[14:13] <Smilerut> cfhowlett: no, I mean
[14:13] <Smilerut> when I first tried to install it, it took a long while
[14:13] <Smilerut> but now it just did an unpacking thing
[14:13] <Smilerut> and boom.
[14:13] <EriC^^> cause it's probably already there and it just unpacked a few extra stuff
[14:14] <cfhowlett> Smilerut, that would the download of packages. actually configuring, i.e. unpacking is a local operation.
[14:14] <Smilerut> Selecting previously unselected package kubuntu-desktop. (Reading database ... 329850 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../kubuntu-desktop_1.308.1.2_amd64.deb ... Unpacking kubuntu-desktop (1.308.1.2) ... Setting up kubuntu-desktop (1.308.1.2) ...
[14:14] <Smilerut> that's all it did.
[14:14] <Smilerut> alright, hold on, let me see if it works
[14:18] <Smilerut> alright
[14:18] <Smilerut> it worked.
[14:18] <cfhowlett> Smilerut, congrats.
[14:18] <Smilerut> it didn't work when I logged out though, I had to restart
[14:19] <Smilerut> and for some reason it still thinks I have Xubuntu-desktop installed
[14:19] <Smilerut> even though I did sudo-apt get remove xubuntu-desktop
[14:19] <Smilerut> I get the Xubuntu loading thing and the xubuntu login screen
[14:19] <Smilerut> what can I do about that
[14:19] <cfhowlett> Smilerut, sudo apt-get purge xubuntu-desktop       but where do you see xubuntu?
[14:19] <cfhowlett> Smilerut, ah.  different issue.
[14:19] <Smilerut> cfhowlett: what can I do about that?
[14:20] <cfhowlett> Smilerut, used to be a plymouth issue, now that we're on lightdm, I don't know.  let me look.
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> Smilerut  try "aptitude ~c"    http://superuser.com/questions/28781/how-to-remove-the-ubuntu-gnome-desktop-after-making-the-switch-to-kde
[14:22] <Diogo> entao faz tu lol
[14:22] <badbodh> Smilerut: maybe xubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, you still need to remove the actual xfce packages
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> Smilerut  typo, it's aptitude purge ~c
[14:23] <Smilerut> MonkeyDust: The program 'aptitude' is currently not installed.
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> Smilerut  sudo apt-get install aptitude
[14:25] <Smilerut> MonkeyDust: installed
[14:25] <Smilerut> now what?
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> Smilerut  sudo aptitude purge ~c   <-- you have to type the ~
[14:26] <CB6> How do you open multiple instances of an already open program?
[14:27] <Smilerut> MonkeyDust: done
[14:27] <Smilerut> MonkeyDust: should this have fixed my issue?
[14:27] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, that link references the plymouth scheme not the lightdm scheme.
[14:28] <ioria> !info lightdm-kde-greeter
[14:29] <cfhowlett> Smilerut, I think all you need do is install the lightdm-kde-greeter
[14:29] <ioria> dpkg -l *greeter ?
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> Smilerut  you want to change the lightdm menu? try this   sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth;sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[14:32] <Smilerut> MonkeyDust: all I know is that
[14:32] <Smilerut> I installed xubuntu-desktop
[14:32] <Smilerut> didn't like xfce
[14:32] <EriC^^> oh
[14:32] <Smilerut> did sudo-apt get remove xubuntu-desktop
[14:32] <Smilerut> and now I installed kubuntu-desktop
[14:32] <Smilerut> however
[14:32] <Diogo> hello
[14:32] <Smilerut> I still get the xubuntu login screen
[14:33] <cfhowlett> Smilerut, again, the changes you made do NOTHING to the login screen.
[14:33] <Smilerut> and the xubuntu loading screen when I boot up
[14:33] <Smilerut> cfhowlett: yeah, but I'd like it changed, I don't like the xubuntu loading/login screens
[14:33] <cfhowlett> Smilerut, did you install the kde-greeter?
[14:33] <Smilerut> cfhowlett: I don;t know if I did
[14:34] <Smilerut> I installed kubuntu desktop.
[14:34] <EriC^^> so uninstall xubuntu
[14:34] <Smilerut> when I installed xubuntu-desktop it changed the default ubuntu screens
[14:34] <EriC^^> if you dont like it
[14:34] <Smilerut> EriC^^: I did.
[14:34] <badbodh> Smilerut: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Install_Display_Managers#LightDM
[14:34] <cfhowlett> !info lightdm-kde-greeter > Smilerut
[14:35] <Smilerut> I thought that installing kubuntu-desktop would have the same effects as installing xubuntu-desktop
[14:35] <badbodh> need to edit lightdm.conf
[14:35] <Smilerut> meaning that, if xubuntu changed stuff by itself, so should kubuntu
[14:35] <cfhowlett> Smilerut, desktop = the distro default apps only
[14:35] <Smilerut> cfhowlett: so then how the heck did it change the loading and login screens?
[14:36] <thecoolguy> hellotrying to update tzdata but i'm not sure if it went through ?
[14:36] <thecoolguy> http://i.imgur.com/00z8WDv.png
[14:37] <badbodh> Smilerut: when you install a metapackage, it will install plenty of other stuff, but when you remove it all those 'other stuff' doi reamin.
[14:37] <badbodh> *remain
[14:37] <Smilerut> oh I see
[14:37] <EriC^^> Smilerut: do you want to try a script i wrote once?
[14:38] <EriC^^> its supposed to get all those packages and remove them from a de you want to remove completely
[14:38] <badbodh> so if you selected xubuntu-desktop package, the package itself does nothing but brings xfce4-packages and a few other apps.
[14:38] <Smilerut> well alright
[14:38] <badbodh> like an agent or middleman.
[14:39] <AppAraat> hi, I want to download and install a package on an offline computer. The machine with Internet is 12.04 but the offline machine is 14.04 - what is the best method to go about doing this, can I use apt / aptitude?
[14:39] <Smilerut> so right now it's using the...xubuntu greeter things, right?
[14:39] <badbodh> to remove xubuntu, you need to remove individual xfce4-things using synaptic.
[14:39] <Smilerut> all I want is to change the xubuntu greeting things to kubuntu greeting things
[14:39] <Smilerut> nothing else
[14:39] <EriC^^> Smilerut: then follow cfhowlett 's advice
[14:39] <badbodh> the lightdm greeter is trickier, just install/remove doesn't alter it.
[14:40] <badbodh> you also need to edit lightdm.conf
[14:40] <EriC^^> Smilerut: type cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[14:40] <EriC^^> what does it say next to greeter-session
[14:40] <cfhowlett> cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[14:41] <badbodh> this manjaro wiki page explains how, just replace relevant entry > https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Install_Display_Managers#LightDM
[14:41] <Smilerut> no such file or directory.
[14:41] <CB6> Man some of the idiosyncrasies of Linux are all kinds of dumb. I can't believe I'm reading a tutorial to open another instance of VLC lol
[14:41] <badbodh> greeter-session=lightdm-kde-greeter <~ do that
[14:41] <Smilerut> it's not there it seems.
[14:42] <badbodh> o.0woops, gotta be elsewhere then
[14:42] <badbodh> open synaptic, search lightdm and see properties>files installed.
[14:43] <Smilerut> badbodh: alright, looking at that
[14:43] <Smilerut> it's um
[14:43] <Smilerut> /etc/init/lightdm.conf
[14:44] <Smilerut> is this what I'm looking for?
[14:44] <badbodh> ok. share the contents on dpaste.com and share the link here.
[14:44] <Smilerut> no I mean
[14:44] <Smilerut> is this the right file?
[14:44] <badbodh> that's why we wanna have a look.
[14:45] <badbodh> paste its contents on dpaste
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> CB6  in VLC : tools > preferences > interface ... scroll down ... uncheck 'allow one instance'
[14:45] <EriC^^> nah that's not it
[14:46] <EriC^^> Smilerut: it isn't there sometimes unless you use auto-login or so
[14:46] <CB6> Monkeydust oddly it's not checked.
[14:46] <EriC^^> Smilerut: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[14:47] <CB6> "Use only instance when starting from filemanager" What about when clicking the toolbar on the left?
[14:47] <Smilerut> this is what came up when using cat on that path
[14:47] <Smilerut> http://pastebin.com/22j2UB0w
[14:47] <EriC^^> try the dpkg-re
[14:48] <akik_> had to remove my wallet configuration .config/kwalletrc, .local/share/kwalletd and .kde/share/apps/kwallet. then next login recreated the wallet for me
[14:48] <badbodh> CB6: clicking the desktop/toolbar icon will start new instance, but opening multiple files on nautilus will open just one - in theory, but it doesn't always happen. bugs.
[14:48] <Smilerut> EriC^^: er
[14:49] <Smilerut> it doesn't look like anything happened.
[14:49] <CB6> VLC when clicking the middle button does with other programs but doesn't appear to with VLC which is why I wonder what "File Manager" actually covers.
[14:49] <cfhowlett> Smilerut, reboo
[14:49] <Smilerut> okay
[14:49] <akik_> sorry wrong channel
[14:50] <ioria> Smilerut, i 'suppose' you can create one .. like xorg.cong, or is 50-ubuntu.conf
[14:50] <ironmc> Every once in a while when I open my old Latitude d610 w/14.04 LTS the wireless is not  working.  Says my hotspot is "out of range" and shows no other networks.  thx in advance
[14:51] <badbodh> Smilerut: nope, that's not the config file. keep looking. what are the contents in /etc/lightdm. also look on /usr/local/share/lightdm if such a folder exists.
[14:51] <nanbork> anyone using Arc theme user's?
[14:51] <badbodh> find anything that says "conf" :D
[14:52] <Smilerut> okay
[14:52] <Smilerut> still the xubuntu stuff
[14:52] <EriC^^> Smilerut: type pastebinit /var/log/apt/history.log
[14:52] <badbodh> that's why i love mint-dm, easy-peasy to changing a theme.
[14:52] <EriC^^> when did you install xubuntu-desktop?
[14:53] <Smilerut> EriC^^: earlier today
[14:53] <EriC^^> ok good
[14:53] <nanbork> is it possible to apply custom icon for a particular file format?
[14:53] <Smilerut> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11942273/
[14:54] <badbodh> nanbork: it is, but very dirty method.
[14:54] <CB6> Do you actually need a cron job to run auto updates lol?
[14:54] <EriC^^> Smilerut: try sudo apt-get purge xubuntu-desktop
[14:54] <EriC^^> Smilerut: it might be cause it still has configuration files
[14:55] <EriC^^> now i remember there was a file for lightdm in a .d
[14:55] <Smilerut> Package 'xubuntu-desktop' is not installed, so not removed
[14:55] <Smilerut> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   linux-headers-3.13.0-32 linux-headers-3.13.0-32-generic   linux-image-3.13.0-32-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-32-generic
[14:55] <EriC^^> /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d
[14:55] <ioria> usually the extra packages are autoremoved at next upgrade ....
[14:56] <EriC^^> Smilerut: type pastebinit <(ls -l /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d)
[14:56] <Smilerut> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11942291/
[14:57] <Skyrider> for ubuntu 14.04, is it normal for php to be 5.5.9?
[14:57] <ioria> yep
[14:57] <EriC^^> Smilerut: pastebinit /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-unity-greeter.conf
[14:58] <EriC^^> Smilerut: and pastebinit ....../60-lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
[14:58] <Skyrider> I honestly expected it to be 5.6
[14:58] <badbodh> aye aye, that's the list. now we are somewhere.
[14:58] <Skyrider> Seeing that is stable.
[14:58] <Smilerut> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11942298/
[14:59] <EriC^^> Smilerut: and the second one?
[14:59] <Smilerut> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11942306/
[14:59] <k1l> Skyrider: yes
[14:59] <Skyrider> meh.
[14:59] <k1l> Skyrider: its a LTS form 2014. so dont mix wishes with reality
[14:59] <badbodh> EriC^^: an update-alternative command perhaps ? take a look in /etc/alternatives
[15:00] <EriC^^> Smilerut: ok, type sudo cp /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/{50,99}-unity-greeter.conf
[15:00] <EriC^^> Smilerut: and then sudo nano /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/99-unity-greeter.conf
[15:00] <EriC^^> and put what badbodh said
[15:01] <k1l> Skyrider: and btw: the last update there is from 2.07.2015: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/p/php5/php5_5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.11/changelog
[15:01] <Smilerut> put what?
[15:01] <Smilerut> also woah
[15:01] <Smilerut> this nano thing
[15:01] <k1l> Skyrider: you know that for most packages and stable reasons ubuntu will not increase the version number?
[15:01] <CB6> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates Is this what people are using for regular updates?
[15:01] <badbodh> lightdm-kde-greeter ?
[15:02] <EriC^^> badbodh: yeah?
[15:02] <Smilerut> alright
[15:02] <Smilerut> I replaced it
[15:02] <Smilerut> do I need to uh
[15:02] <Smilerut> save it or something
[15:02] <CB6> Seems to be a lot of alternatives https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/automatic-updates.html
[15:02] <Smilerut> I'm not familiar with this interface
[15:02] <EriC^^> Smilerut: yeah, press ctrl+o to save
[15:02] <badbodh> Smilerut: ctrl-o to write
[15:03] <Smilerut> did ctrl+o
[15:03] <Smilerut> then pressed enter
[15:03] <Smilerut> is this ok
[15:03] <badbodh> yes
[15:03] <Smilerut> alright
[15:03] <EriC^^> press ctrl+x
[15:03] <EriC^^> then sudo service lightdm restart
[15:03] <EriC^^> it will disconnect you
[15:03] <EriC^^> so see ya on the other side
[15:03] <Smilerut> right
[15:04] <badbodh> may the force be with you
[15:04] <EriC^^> haha
[15:05] <CB6> Is it a bad idea to do auto updates in Ubuntu?
[15:05] <roott> panel wifi
[15:07] <EriC^^> i'm starting to wonder if we broke his computer badbodh
[15:07] <EriC^^> haha :D
[15:07] <badbodh> i was hoping for a cleaner method like update-alternatives
[15:07] <roott>  panel wifi sorunu
[15:08] <EriC^^> badbodh: i dont know if there is, one time another guy wanted to change the lubuntu lightdm and we ended up doing this
[15:08] <EriC^^> worked well for him, i think xubuntu adds it and then it forgets to remove it
[15:08] <EriC^^> or if he used purge first instead of remove it would have removed the last 50-script
[15:10] <badbodh> EriC^^: you basically forced the unity's greetr to invoke kde greeter. that's more like hack-ish
[15:10] <EriC^^> an op here had suggested to remove it from there, so i think it's fine
[15:10] <EriC^^> badbodh: nah, that's the config file it reads anyways
[15:11] <EriC^^> it had the 50- that had unity-greeter, and xubuntu must have added the later 60-lightdm script that had the same line except with the xubuntu lightdm
[15:11] <badbodh> ok. but out of curiosity, do check /ec/alternatives directory. anything that says "lightdm" ?
[15:11] <badbodh> *etc
[15:11] <EriC^^> nope
[15:12] <badbodh> pity. and that cp command {50-99} what does curly bracket do ?
[15:12] <EriC^^> i mean there's nothing in /etc/alternatives with lightdm
[15:13] <EriC^^> badbodh: it makes a copy of the file, but the new copy has 99- instead of 50-
[15:13] <EriC^^> it's so it gets read last
[15:13] <EriC^^> by lightdm
[15:13] <badbodh> ok. in theory the changes we suggested shouldn't break imo :D
[15:13] <badbodh> let's hope it works
[15:13] <EriC^^> nope
[15:14] <badbodh> man i hate lightdm, so complex just to change the way it looks. i'd rather have ubuntu use mint's display manager.
[15:15] <KnightsOfNi> Why is this not working? /etc/vlc/vlc - but when I go to /etc/vlc and then run vlc it is working
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> badbodh  i guess you *can* install mdm
[15:15] <KnightsOfNi> can this be done in 1 command?
[15:16] <EriC^^> KnightsOfNi: cause that's not the same file you're running by typing vlc anywhere
[15:16] <EriC^^> KnightsOfNi: type type vlc
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> KnightsOfNi  to get an idea of the linux file structure: type     which vlc
[15:19] <KnightsOfNi> oh it's in the usr bin
[15:19] <KnightsOfNi> it's a symlink then?
[15:20] <badbodh> perhaps not, all executables go to /usr/bin or /usr/sbin
[15:20] <badbodh> files aren';t installed in a single folder, unlike windows
[15:20] <EriC^^> type ls -l /etc/vlc/vlc
[15:21] <badbodh> etc will most likely contain the default/global configs
[15:21] <badbodh> data files go to /usr/share
[15:22] <KnightsOfNi> I want to add to crontab something like this: @reboot /usr/bin/vlc --config /etc/vlc/somefile.txt
[15:22] <Smilerut> so um
[15:22] <Smilerut> after I did the thing
[15:22] <badbodh> wow, what does that do ?
[15:22] <Smilerut> it took me to a screen
[15:22] <Smilerut> and it got stuck
[15:22] <badbodh> yay! you are back!
[15:23] <Smilerut> kept saying something about it getting frozen or stuck or something
[15:23] <KnightsOfNi> so if i go to the bin dir i can run the program
[15:23] <Smilerut> so uh
[15:23] <KnightsOfNi> but typing /usr/bin/vlc still doesnt work
[15:23] <Smilerut> I shut it down forcefully
[15:23] <Smilerut> and then started it again
[15:23] <badbodh> nice!
[15:23] <Smilerut> and now um
[15:23] <Smilerut> I have the Kubuntu login screen
[15:23] <Smilerut> but not the kubuntu LOADING screen
[15:23] <Smilerut> I guess that's fine though
[15:24] <CB6> Does gedit typically allow the saving of 50unattended-upgrades ?
[15:24] <badbodh> oh, loading sceen comes from plymouth
[15:24] <Smilerut> I wouldn't want to mess with it anymore
[15:24] <Smilerut> badbodh: oh, can I change that?
[15:24] <CB6> I seem to recall there's a protocol to follow when editing certain folder files to get them to save.
[15:24] <badbodh> Smilerut: you need to sudo update-alternatives --config <something plymouth blah blah>
[15:24] <badbodh> lemme check exact command
[15:25] <badbodh> meanwhile open synaptic and see if you have kubuntu's plymouth theme installed
[15:25] <badbodh> just search "plymouth theme"
[15:25] <CB6> hmm it comes to a permissions for this. Is there a gedit root edit equivalent?
[15:26] <cfhowlett> sudo gedit
[15:26] <badbodh> EriC^^: he's alive. you did it!
[15:26] <CB6> ty
[15:26] <Smilerut> badbodh: um
[15:26] <Smilerut> badbodh: nothing comes up when I search for that
[15:26] <ioria> !info gksu
[15:27] <Rave1> should be gksudo gedit<<
[15:28] <Smilerut> badbodh: yeah, nothing comes up for polymouth
[15:28] <badbodh> poly ? i said ply
[15:28] <Smilerut> oh
[15:28] <cfhowlett> Smilerut, plymouth is no longer present in ubuntu >>> lightdm is the new manager
[15:28] <badbodh> cfhowlett: what about boot splash ?
[15:29] <badbodh> the animated logo before login-screen fires up
[15:29] <Smilerut> I can see both plymouth-theme-kubuntu AND plymouth-theme-xubuntu
[15:29] <Smilerut> and plymouth-theme-ubuntu
[15:29] <CB6> This script looks a lot like CSS and can be pulled by CSS. What language are these files written in? Is this bash?
[15:29] <CB6> can be pulled by cron***
[15:30] <Smilerut> badbodh: I can see all of them D:
[15:31] <badbodh> Smilerut: run "sudo update-alternatives --list default.plymouth" what does it show ?
[15:32] <Smilerut> /lib/plymouth/themes/kubuntu-logo/kubuntu-logo.plymouth /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ubuntu-logo-scale-2.plymouth /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ubuntu-logo.plymouth /lib/plymouth/themes/xubuntu-logo/xubuntu-logo.plymouth
[15:32] <Smilerut> badbodh: ^
[15:32] <badbodh> Smilerut: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[15:33] <badbodh> enter choice, you wanted kubuntu right ?
[15:33] <Smilerut> yes
[15:34] <Smilerut> done.
[15:34] <Smilerut> well let's see if it worked
[15:34] <badbodh> reboot and give a hug
[15:34] <KnightsOfNi> i keep setting the nameservers in resolv.conf to the google dns, but each time I reboot it's reset back to the old one :s
[15:34] <KnightsOfNi> how can that be?
[15:35] <superjuuseri> http://pastebin.com/xz3nZQ8m
[15:35] <superjuuseri> can anyone tell me how to fix this?
[15:35] <badbodh> KnightsOfNi: dhcp ? check network-manager
[15:36] <KnightsOfNi> what do y ou mean?
[15:36] <badbodh> you want to change your dns server right /
[15:36] <KnightsOfNi> yea
[15:36] <Smilerut> alright
[15:36] <badbodh> go to control center>network> click the button for advanced settings
[15:36] <Smilerut> badbodh: this is interesting.
[15:37] <Smilerut> when I exit, the logo is Kubuntu
[15:37] <Smilerut> when I boot, however, it's xubuntu
[15:37] <badbodh> eh? that's annoying
[15:37] <Smilerut> something is wrong with this world
[15:37] <badbodh> i wouldn't know, i use mint :)
[15:37] <Smilerut> heh
[15:38] <Smilerut> mint looks alright
[15:38] <k1l> Smilerut: what desktop is installed?
[15:38] <Smilerut> k1l: the OS itself is Ubuntu. I installed Xubuntu, then removed it, then installed Kubuntu
[15:39] <Smilerut> xubuntu desktop I mean
[15:39] <Smilerut> and kubuntu desktop, too
[15:39] <k1l> Smilerut: ok. so there is the reason for the mix
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> Smilerut  try this    sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth;sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[15:39] <badbodh> Smilerut: ok try this, run "sudo plymouth-set-default-theme --list|pastebinit"
[15:39] <badbodh> MonkeyDust: please, he just dealt with lightdm. leave it alone :P
[15:40] <badbodh> i don't think reconfigure does anything to theme
[15:40] <Smilerut> sudo plymouth-set-default-theme --list|pastebinit
[15:40] <Smilerut> er
[15:40] <badbodh> in the terminal
[15:40] <Smilerut> unknown command
[15:40] <trerot> hahah
[15:40] <badbodh> ok
[15:40] <k1l> install pastebinit first
[15:41] <badbodh> he has pastebinit.
[15:41] <Smilerut> I do.
[15:41] <badbodh> the command was from jessie. Smilerut back to the old command, " sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth" again
[15:41] <badbodh> enter choice
[15:42] <Smilerut> er
[15:42] <Smilerut> there's a kubuntu auto mode and a kubuntu manual mode
[15:42] <Smilerut> manual mode is selected.
[15:43] <badbodh> ok. select it again
[15:43] <Smilerut> done
[15:43] <badbodh> now try "sudo update-initramfs -u"
[15:44] <Smilerut> and now we wait
[15:44] <badbodh> so, you um and er a lot, you a girl ? below 20 ?
[15:44] <LD> Hi any IT person that can help me?
[15:45] <xangua> !ask
[15:45] <badbodh> we don't do IT stuff. got ubuntu , just ask.
[15:45] <Smilerut> badbodh: I'm sorry mate
[15:45] <Smilerut> badbodh: you're not getting a date :/
[15:45] <Smilerut> I'm a guy
[15:45] <LD> Haha ok. anyway
[15:45] <AEL-H> plot twist
[15:45] <badbodh> then stop umming and erring, it's irksome if you're not a little girl >:(
[15:46] <Smilerut> badbodh: ummm okay
[15:46] <Smilerut> badbodh: heh
[15:46] <Smilerut> badbodh: I do it out of habit
[15:46] <AEL-H> Can anyone here give me a hand with wget? I am having some trouble getting it to authenticate properly
[15:46] <Smilerut> badbodh: anyway I ran the command
[15:47] <badbodh> is it done ? shutdown and boot again
[15:47] <Smilerut> okay
[15:47] <badbodh> not reboot, shutdown
[15:48] <pauljw> AEL-H, what do you mean by authenticate, what's it telling you?
[15:48] <__thuginc__> hi all is there  any thang like mdm for ubuntu 15.04 ?
[15:49] <LD> Do you know how I can prevent xubuntu to sleep/turn off the screen when watching a video (youtube/vimeo/etc)  or hearing an audio streaming (soundcloud)? I already tried installing Caffeine but it did not work
[15:49] <Smilerut> success!
[15:49] <Smilerut> Rejoice!
[15:49] <badbodh> LD: really depends on what media player you are using, and does it have sleep-inhibit
[15:49] <Smilerut> badbodh: thanks man
[15:50] <badbodh> Smilerut: you can pay for services via paypal. your final bill is $1045665450.69
[15:50] <Smilerut> o
[15:50] <Smilerut> ok
[15:51] <LD> I am using firefox, not any media player.
[15:51] <Smilerut> how about a respectful nod instead
[15:51]  * Smilerut respectfully nods to badbodh
[15:51] <badbodh> lol
[15:51] <badbodh> have fun. ciao.
[15:51] <badbodh> LD: best you can do is change your sleep time to 6-12 hours
[15:52] <pauljw> AEL-H, you need to keep the question out here, not PMing me.  I don't necessarily have answers and no one else can help if they don't see your question.
[15:52] <CB6> tv = big monitors and lots of noise for computer operations. If my computer made that much noise when I used it I would go crazy.
[15:52] <Guza> hi, i cant install php5
[15:52] <badbodh> or voo-doo your mouse to keep moving
[15:52] <Guza> here my pastebin
[15:52] <Guza> http://pastebin.com/rcTGsrWT
[15:53] <AEL-H> So I am basically attempting to mirror my university website so that I can access all of my materials before they are removed before the start of the next semester. When I run the command it downloads the entire portion of the website that is available to users not logged in. The command itself runs fine
[15:53] <LD> Yes, but that is not what I really want, since it's very nice that the sleep time keeps for 5 mins
[15:53] <Guza> can someone help me pls
[15:53] <badbodh> you want it to sleep it will sleep. it isn't a 5 month old baby LD .
[15:54] <teward> Guza: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install -f
[15:54] <teward> Guza: if it still fails, provide that error output.  but use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ instead
[15:54] <k1l> Guza: you have PPAs enabled?
[15:54] <teward> (pastebin is filled with ads and javascript)
[15:54] <teward> also what k1l said
[15:54] <Guza> teward: i was trying to make my own repo
[15:55] <EriC^^> Smilerut: cool, thought you weren't going to make it
[15:55] <Guza> and i follow tutorial, download all files and all work exept php5
[15:55] <LD> Yes, but since I prefer to get the computer to sleep when I'm not using since it's a waste of resources. So getting the computer to sleep in 6 hours later it's not my cup of tea.
[15:55] <badbodh> LD: sleep-inhibit is application specific feature, look into preferences, about:config. if you find nothing, setting reasonable sleep-time is your only option
[15:56] <Guza> i have all that files on my reposite
[15:56] <AppAraat> hello everyone. Is there a tool like FEBE (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/febe/) but for Chromium?
[15:57] <teward> AppAraat: you'd have to search the Chromium plugins (I think that's just the google chrome addons store?) to try and find one
[15:57] <__thuginc__> is there any way to chang the  them of the login scren in ubuntu 15.04 ?
[15:58] <badbodh> EriC^^: ^^ eyes on __thuginc__ :D
[15:58] <teward> AppAraat: this may be of use to you though, this article: http://techdows.com/2010/07/how-to-backup-and-restore-google-chrome-extensions.html
[15:59] <AppAraat> teward: thanks, but most of those extensions look super shady lol
[15:59] <Smilerut> EriC^^: the command that you told me to type it
[15:59] <Smilerut> it kinda froze stuff
[15:59] <Smilerut> I mean, it did close, initially, but then it got stuck
[16:00] <EriC^^> Smilerut: it fixed the login screen though right?
[16:00] <Smilerut> yes
[16:00] <teward> AppAraat: well, then you're a little out of luck - I know of no other plugin that does what FEBE does.  Although you could just make a complete copy of your Chromium profile...
[16:00] <Smilerut> yes it did
[16:00] <teward> AppAraat: which is basically the same thing, and then do that 'copying' regularly
[16:00] <EriC^^> Smilerut: you can press ctrl+alt+f1 then ctrl+alt+del to restart
[16:01] <Smilerut> hmm
[16:01] <EriC^^> !reisub
[16:01] <AppAraat> teward: yeah like sending diffs and stuff. True. It's the safest method I guess.
[16:01] <Smilerut> Kubuntu theme shows up as installed but I can't select it
[16:01] <Smilerut> for some reason
[16:01] <Smilerut> er
[16:01] <Smilerut> KDE theme
[16:01] <Smilerut> Plasma theme, really
[16:01] <teward> AppAraat: I wouldn't trust any backing up to any plugins, no, i'd just set up a cronjob to copy the data i want to save to a backup location once a week or such.
[16:01] <teward> or once every 7 days or such
[16:02] <AppAraat> yeah you're absolutely right.
[16:02] <PotatoHead0077> Hello. Where can I get help with installing ffmpeg when I get an error about unmet dependencies.
[16:02] <badbodh> EriC^^ , Smilerut  restarting display manager service when logged-in will end the current session, hence freeze. reboot is the recommended method.
[16:03] <badbodh> restarting a service had nothing to do with the theme change
[16:03] <Smilerut> oh, it turns out I have Plasma 4, not five
[16:03] <Smilerut> I wonder how I can update
[16:03] <EriC^^> badbodh: it should have just restarted the display manager and load the new login screen cause of the script he edited, dunno why it froze it usually doesn't
[16:03] <PotatoHead0077> Hello. Where can I get help with installing ffmpeg when I get an error about unmet dependencies?
[16:03] <badbodh> alternatively you can log-out, switch to tty shell, restart service, switch back to GUI
[16:03] <k1l> !details | PotatoHead0077
[16:04] <k1l> PotatoHead0077: and repeating gets annoying, and is not motivating people to help more.
[16:04] <PotatoHead0077> Yea sorry
[16:04] <PotatoHead0077> I'm just a bit stressed because I need it soon. Will do pastebin
[16:05] <badbodh> !pastebin badbodh
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> PotatoHead0077  try avconv
[16:06] <pauljw>     AEL-H , sorry that I can't help, you're obviously more advanced than me.  Seems to me that if there is no error returned by wget, then it's either a permission issue or a user error ie wrong path or wrong option.  Hope someone more knowledgeable will chime in...
[16:06] <PotatoHead0077> I will try that. http://pastebin.com/QYUWyiWy
[16:07] <easyOnMe> has anyone here been using filezilla for your web server dev and admin
[16:07] <easyOnMe> please tell me I have some questions
[16:07] <badbodh> AEL-H: why not rsync ?
[16:08] <k1l> easyOnMe: maybe you want to look if you can find their channel to talk to the specialists?
[16:08] <AEL-H> I am a big noob, I will look up rsync
[16:08] <easyOnMe> k1l: have you used it before
[16:09] <k1l> easyOnMe: no. but that was not part of my answer to you.
[16:09] <badbodh> easyOnMe: keep your questions ubuntu-centric. thank you.
[16:10] <easyOnMe> badbodh: ok no problemo
[16:10] <easyOnMe> thanks
[16:10] <badbodh> than you for understanding :)
[16:10] <badbodh> *thank
[16:10] <easyOnMe> k1l: thanks for reminding about the channel I manage to find it kudos man :)
[16:10] <kudos> np
[16:11] <badbodh> kudos: you using dos in kubuntu ?
[16:11] <AEL-H> To quickly summarise, what advantages would rsync have over wget?
[16:11] <kudos> yes
[16:11] <badbodh> wine ?
[16:12] <kudos> sure
[16:12] <Smilerut> alright so
[16:12] <Smilerut> how can I change window colors?
[16:12] <Smilerut> I mean I got a dark theme that makes a lot of things the way I want them to me
[16:12] <Smilerut> to be*
[16:12] <Smilerut> but the applications themselves are gray, not black
[16:13] <Smilerut> and they stick out
[16:13] <Smilerut> how can I change this
[16:13] <Smilerut> (using KDE)
[16:13] <badbodh> AEL-H: rsync can also handle your usual copy-paste activities. reliable for large/numerous files, resumes if interrupted. can also verify checksum.
[16:13] <badbodh> it copies hard-drive to hard-drive, as well as hard-drive to netwrok and back
[16:14] <badbodh> grsync and gtk-rsync are gui if you need one
[16:14] <AEL-H> I feel the -m setting on wget covers does exactly what I need, the only problem appears to be giving the command a way to authenticate on my university portal to give it access to the proper files which I think would also prevent me from using rsync in the same way.
[16:14] <badbodh> check rsync documentation, it has tricks up its sleeve
[16:15] <AEL-H> I will attempt to do the same thing on rsync in the meantime
[16:16] <badbodh> Smilerut: screenshots please.
[16:16] <Smilerut> badbodh: alright
[16:16] <badbodh> kudos to you kudos :)
[16:19] <synergy_> I'm a little confused on how partitions work. How can I have a / partition and a /boot partition if /boot is located on the root directory?
[16:19] <Smilerut> http://i.imgur.com/1aXhXwY.png badbodh
[16:19] <Smilerut> you see what I mean?
[16:19] <Smilerut> the window for Konversation is gray
[16:20] <badbodh> synergy_: nope, they appear to be on /, but /boot , /home, /tmp all can be in different partitions if you set it up that way
[16:20] <ioria> synergy_, or you installed a separated partition  for /boot or you are uefi
[16:22] <badbodh> Smilerut: in systemsettings go to appearance> color. change your color scheme to something dark, like 'krita'.
[16:22] <badbodh> you can choose individual colors in the same module.
[16:22] <synergy_> badbodh: So in this picture here from tldp: http://tldp.net/LDP/intro-linux/html/images/FS-layout.png; boot, temp, and home would actually be on the same level as / instead of sub branches thereof?
[16:23] <Smilerut> hahaha
[16:23] <Coast> there's a scheme called "Obsidian Coast"
[16:23] <Coast> Coast is my preferred username everywhere
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> synergy_  is this useful http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/09/linux-file-system-structure/
[16:24] <badbodh> synergy_: no. / will be always at the top. everything else under it, including mount-point for other disks. that /boot you see is a mount point.
[16:24] <badbodh> it's actually a separate partition. windows would have shown it as separate D-drive,say
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> actually, a root is in the ground, everything else "grows" out of it
[16:25] <Coast> moew
[16:25] <badbodh> and then the monkey climbs on whatever grows out
[16:25] <badbodh> :P
[16:25] <synergy_> badbodh: Hehe
[16:26] <Coast> .
[16:26] <synergy_> badbodh: So they're mount points. I still don't understand the directory structure then. /boot (if a seperate partition) does not actually live under / ?
[16:26] <CB6> Anyone remember how to remove hexchat's user leave/join display from the screen lol?
[16:26] <badbodh> to a layman (like me) linux doesn't differentiate among disks and partitions, and treats them as a single unified filesystem
[16:26] <cfhowlett> !quietirc | CB6
[16:27] <Coast> but um
[16:27] <Coast> now I have another problem
[16:27] <CB6> ty
[16:27] <k1l> Coast: keep it ubuntu support only in here please. #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[16:27] <Coast> http://i.imgur.com/1aXhXwY.png  <-- my screen res is 1366 x 768
[16:27] <verses_> i tried researching on some this error and still havent got a clue as to why cant copy an iso file.
[16:27] <EriC^^> synergy_: the filesystem is mounted under the /boot dir
[16:27] <verses_> the file was 8gb and it copied only 4gb of it
[16:27] <EriC^^> synergy_: if you unmount the filesystem, you'd have an empty /boot dir
[16:28] <Coast> but the screenshot is 2390 x 768
[16:28] <Coast> and I notice that if I go to the right with my cursor, it keeps going
[16:28] <k1l> Coast: that is 2 desktops
[16:28] <Coast> k1l: how can I fix this
[16:28] <synergy_> Oh, so a separate partition is mounted in a subdirectory of /, but it doesn't actually reside there itself
[16:28] <k1l> Coast: see the driver settings for video
[16:29] <badbodh> synergy_: nope. even if you format root, that subdirectory will be unharmed.
[16:29] <badbodh> all files intact
[16:30] <EriC^^> synergy_: the "/" itself is just a filesystem with a bunch of dirs and files, some empty where you can mount other filesystems on other disks even
[16:31] <synergy_> badbodh: I think that's what I'm saying(?) While /home is a subdirectory of /, that directory has a mount point to its respective partition. Is that right?
[16:31] <Coast> k1l: er
[16:31] <Coast> k1l: how would I do that
[16:32] <Coast> ah there we go
[16:32] <Coast> fixed.
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> synergy_  in a terminal, type   lsblk     <-- are you familiar with that?
[16:32] <badbodh> synergy_: grammar first : ...that directory -is- a mount point....That being said, yes :)
[16:32] <synergy_> badbodh: Ok, I wasn't sure of the terminology. I thought saying "is" would be incorrect.
[16:33] <badbodh> btw you may wanna change your nick, synergy is an op in debian channels, very rude to duplicate op nicks
[16:33] <synergy_> MonkeyDust: Yea, I'm setting up a new system from scratch in a virtual machine, so sda is empty right now
[16:33] <synergy_> badbodh: I hadn't known.
[16:34] <badbodh> well, that's what we are here for :)
[16:34] <synergy_> badbodh: Hmm, ok. Thanks for the help :)
[16:35] <badbodh> when you joined you were told by nickserv this nick was taken, then you added an underscore ;)
[16:35] <EriC^^> actually his client automatically did that
[16:36] <CB6> * subhojit777 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) these kind of messages are what I want to go lol
[16:36] <EriC^^> who cares though use whatever you want, free speech and all
[16:36] <synergy_> badbodh: No, this is a verified account with a password
[16:36] <synergy_> It's the one I always used
[16:36] <badbodh> :O
[16:36] <badbodh> nvm. you get the idea about /boot?
[16:37] <synergy_> I understand. I drew myself a picture to clear things up more
[16:37] <verses_> hey, have you guys experienced - cannot slice the file - issue? i cant seem to copy a file of 8gb
[16:37] <verses_> its an iso file
[16:37] <EriC^^> verses_: copy where?
[16:37] <verses_> to my harddrive
[16:38] <verses_> thought theres something wrong with the ntfs drive and then switched to ext3, but the same issue persisted
[16:38] <verses_> i found a link 2 days back but there was no fix
[16:39] <EriC^^> oh ok
[16:41] <badbodh> verses_: maybe try ext4, xfs, zfs ? zfs is nice.
[16:41] <Bashing-om> verses_: fat32 filse system at play here ?
[16:41] <badbodh> ext3 he says
[16:42] <badbodh> if i recall ext3 has way bigger filesize limit, not a paltry 8gb. right ?
[16:42] <Bashing-om> badbodh: Not real sure, seems journaled file system was introduced in ext4 ??
[16:43] <badbodh> verses_: you can try two things. check how much space remains. or fsck your drive. if not, change to ext4/xfs etc. they are latest and greatest.
[16:43] <verses_> change with my data intact?
[16:44] <badbodh> no i'm afraid :(
[16:44] <verses_> i have a huge empty space
[16:44] <verses_> oh
[16:44] <badbodh> lemme check if filesystem can be converted without removing data. but i doubt it.
[16:44] <verses_> what could be wrong with copying on ntfs?
[16:44] <verses_> thought it has something with the OS capability to copy
[16:45] <k1l> verses_: "df -h" tells you the spaces
[16:45] <CB6> http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/12/how-to-stream-videos-from-computer-to.html these doesn't seem very secure to me lol
[16:45] <CB6> this*
[16:45] <k1l> verses_: you cant run ntfs as system partition on linux. but you can use it as a data partition, its only slower than the other native linux filesystems
[16:46] <verses_> i was just copying the data.
[16:46] <verses_> an iso file
[16:46] <k1l> what exact error is it?
[16:46] <k1l> and from where to where to you copy?
[16:46] <badbodh> verses_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ConvertFilesystemToExt4
[16:46] <badbodh> skip step 3 since it is an external drive
[16:47] <badbodh> no need to mess with grub. you just disconnect,reboot,connect
[16:47] <verses_> well, i dont remember the error. i was copying an iso file from flash drive to hard drive.
[16:47] <badbodh> oh, then you need to use step3
[16:48] <badbodh> 8gb on flash drive though? how ?
[16:48] <fontis> does anyone here use Ubuntu Gnome edition? If so, you guys got any problems when updating to latest gnome via the PPA?
[16:48] <badbodh> i struggle to hammer in 4 gb iso
[16:48] <k1l> verses_: we need way more details. as such even ext3 works. so there must be something wrong. be we dont know without the details
[16:48] <badbodh> fontis: ppa=trouble, why would you do that? you a developer or something? stick to ubuntu repositories
[16:49] <compdoc> you must use a tiny hammer
[16:49] <cfoch> hello. I would like to be a volunteer in the UbuCon Latinoamerica. What can I do?
[16:50] <cfhowlett> cfoch, wrong place to ask.  find your loco or local linux user group
[16:50] <verses_> k1l, one more thing, is it any good to switch to 64 bit os from 32 which i am currently using?
[16:50] <badbodh> we have no idea what that is. go to ubuntu's local channel in your country
[16:50] <k1l> verses_: there is no reason to use 32bit OS today (except your cpu is 32bit only)
[16:51] <badbodh> unless you have 4+ gb ram, 64 bit doesn't make sense. it will only slow you down
[16:51] <AvatarA> badbodh, I disagree and Gnome PPA's are worth it because Gnome evolves fast and later versions have a lot of new and useful stuff
[16:51] <badbodh> for 2gb ram 32 bit better.
[16:51] <k1l> cfoch: better try #ubuntu-ubuconla
[16:51] <k1l> badbodh: that is not true
[16:52] <AEL-H> Sorry noob here, I don't see the significance of ram when it comes to difference between 32 and 64 bit
[16:52] <cfoch> nobody is there in #ubuntu-ubuconla
[16:52] <Igore> is someboby french here?
[16:52] <cfhowlett> !fr | Igore
[16:52] <k1l> badbodh: that idea is based on the fact that 32bit could not work with more than 4GB ram, so it was "use 32bit for less then 4gb".
[16:52] <badbodh> AvatarA: yes, but ppas do not play well with ubuntu's own packages. you will see conflicts etc. ubuntu doesn't evolve as fast.
[16:53] <bekks> AEL-H: Because there is no significance :)
[16:53] <cfoch> I don't know if is okay to chat in french. Do it in english :)
[16:53] <cfoch> or go to #ubuntu-fr Igole
[16:53] <cfoch> Igore
[16:53] <AvatarA> It doesn't play well even with Gnome from its own repositories :)
[16:53] <AEL-H> Why would a 32 bit system not be able to work with more than 4gb ram?
[16:53] <cfoch> is there a channel #ubuntu sudaerica or something like that?
[16:53] <badbodh> k1l: not really, i have used 64 bit os when i has 2 gb ram, somehow 64bit os eats more ram. like ~600mb on 32 bit, 1 gb on 64bit.
[16:53] <cfoch> southamerica
[16:53] <cfoch> or latinoamerica
[16:54] <badbodh> same apps open, similar consitions
[16:54] <badbodh> *conditions
[16:54] <akik> a 32-bit system can work with more than 4GiB, the limits are per process
[16:54] <Miar> Hi, I am clearly connected to a wired network according to ubuntu, but the internet doesn't seem to be working. Could anybody help me out?
[16:54] <Miar> Also unable to connect to my wifi
[16:54] <cfhowlett> cfoch, go offline to the local ubuntu group for your country. there is a wiki.
[16:55] <verses_> akik, how?
[16:55] <cfoch> I was chatting with Michael Garrido, but he told me he is not organizing
[16:55] <cfoch> the UbuConLa
[16:56] <cfhowlett> cfoch, you're in the wrong channel.  ask #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:56] <akik> verses: i think the term was bigmem kernel
[16:56] <badbodh> akik: have you used 32 bit os on a system with 8 gb ram? how much memory is available in system-monitor or when you run "free"?
[16:57] <akik> badbodh: yes i did it in 2006 with a 12 GiB host and opensuse
[16:57] <badbodh> the limit is 4gb if i recall. 3,5gb for windows.
[16:57] <badbodh> you should run 'free' in terminal and see if free ram is 11gb or just 2 gb :D
[16:58] <AvatarA> PAE enables you to use more than 4 Gigs even on 32 bit
[16:58] <lickalott_> hey all!  trying to set my xinput values for my touchpad (too sensitive) and no matter what I do, it resets on boot.  I have created an .xsessionrc file.  I've made values.
[16:58] <lickalott_> any ideas?
[16:59] <AvatarA> Don't know how Windoze handles it though, saw it being limited to 3.5 on Win7
[16:59] <Bashing-om> Miar: Are you using a GUI 'network-manager' ?
[16:59] <Miar> Bashing-om Yes
[16:59] <akik> AvatarA: there was a /PAE switch for windows boot loader
[16:59] <badbodh> well pae-kernel is another thing. then it's possible.
[17:00] <AvatarA> I think it was a "commercial limit" though
[17:00] <AvatarA> With basic edition or something more cheapo
[17:00] <Bashing-om> Miar: Sorry, Will have to await others advise, I have not used a 'network-manager" in ages .
[17:01] <AvatarA> And Pro allowed you to use all RAM
[17:01] <badbodh> lickalott_: create a file.sh (a shell script) and add it to startup
[17:01] <Miar> Bashing-om Thanks anyway :) I have another problem if you could please help : When I launch Kubuntu in KDE mode, it hangs after around 2 minutes of usage. And when I launch it in Unity or Gnome, it says System error on startup 2-3 times
[17:02] <lickalott_> I thought i did that, but maybe I missed a step....   I made a file in init.d and created the softlink to rc2.d.  Inside the file were my xinput values.
[17:02] <badbodh> Miar: you are in a lot of soup. let's take it one thing at a time.
[17:02] <Miar> Haha okay
[17:03] <badbodh> lickalott_: nope don't do that. just create a .sh file in your home folder, add it to "startup applications"
[17:03] <badbodh> why you so intrusive, do things cleanly
[17:03] <lickalott_> ahhh copy
[17:03] <Luy1n> Hi, I tried to download a lot of youtube videos with youtube-dl. I get a lot of warnings that avconv is outdated, and then it exits with "ERROR: audio conversion failed: Or use the non experimental encoder 'libvo_aacenc'." I don't find information on how to update avconv; do I have to build it from source?
[17:03] <badbodh> Miar: have you any third party ppa-s added to software sources ?
[17:04] <badbodh> and when your problem started, what were you up o? any insta;;/remove/edit you recall?
[17:04] <badbodh> *up o /up to
[17:05] <cfhowlett> Luy1n, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should upgrade all currently installed packages
[17:06] <Luy1n> my warnings and errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11942977/ my config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11942983/ my command: youtube-dl -a ~/tmpyoutubelinks -o "~/%(title)s.%(ext)s" 2>~/youtube-dl.errors
[17:07] <Luy1n> cfhowlett: I did it, but don't get any packages that could be updated.
[17:07] <Miar> badbodh : Nope
[17:07] <badbodh> lickalott_: http://dpaste.com/03HZCWT > write something like this. save as <name>.sh, allow execute, add to startup, kill kitten, burn your family, marry justin beiber. logout/login to verify
[17:08] <lickalott_> copy.  I got it squared away.  thanks badbodh !!
[17:08] <Bashing-om> Miar: Is unity the default/initial Desktop Environment ? ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ' If so maybe will restore ?
[17:09] <AvatarA> Luy1n, do you have libavcodec-extra installed?
[17:09] <Luy1n> Bashing-om: your command hasn't got anything to do with Unity.
[17:09] <badbodh> really lickalott_ ? all the steps i just mentioned?
[17:09] <Luy1n> AvatarA: nope. should I install it?
[17:09] <lickalott_> trying to figure out what the values actually mean for the "synaptics finger" now.  it still seems a lil sensitive (i.e. as I'm typing the line gets highlighted or my cursor moves and I am typing somewhere I shouldn't
[17:10] <Miar> Bashing-om : I have tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm . Does nothing to the problems I have been having
[17:10] <badbodh> lickalott_: don't alter all the vlaues. just the ones i mentioned in paste
[17:10] <lickalott_> kitten kill - check.  burn family - check.  Marry JB - not so much
[17:10] <AvatarA> try it
[17:10] <badbodh> that'll do
[17:10] <Luy1n> AvatarA: I installed libavcodec-extra, but the errors remain
[17:11] <lickalott_> badbodh, what will that do for me?
[17:11] <badbodh> Miar: something must have started your issue. try to recall, try harder. can't help without details.
[17:12] <badbodh> you installed unity+gnome on kubuntu, something's off.
[17:12] <Bashing-om> Miar: Seems I recall one has to stop X first ' sudo service lightdm stop ' OR kdm if (k)ubuntu is the environment .
[17:13] <badbodh> things don't happen magically, you've been up to a lot of activities Miar . tell us what you did before that, the whole history.
[17:13] <Miar> badbodh : It was working fine for around 2-3 hours after I booted it. After which I tried to connect to my wifi and kde wallet popped up. That was the first time it froze. I then switched off the power button on my laptop and restarted it. Have been having the problem since.
[17:13] <badbodh> ok so what did you do before those 2-3 hours ?
[17:13] <badbodh> install unity and gnome ?
[17:14] <Miar> I did not do anything. I installed a steam game - dota 2 and tested it out and then the above mentioned ^ . Nothing else has been done on Kubuntu.
[17:14] <badbodh> at what point did you install unity and gnome?
[17:14] <Miar> Well I had given my friend to dual boot my system for me. And he had installed unity and gnome on Kubuntu :\
[17:14] <badbodh> if i recall, unity and gnome don't co-exist very well.
[17:15] <AvatarA> Luy1n, if libav-tools ?
[17:15] <Miar> Hm. So should I remove Gnome?
[17:15] <AvatarA> Luy1n, libav-tools ? (without the if :)
[17:15] <badbodh> well, get back to your friend and punch his face. i think fresh-install will be more beneficial Miar .
[17:15] <Luy1n> AvatarA: libav-tools is installed
[17:16] <badbodh> this time tell him to stick to kubuntu/kde and not add to many junk.
[17:16] <badbodh> *too many
[17:16] <Luy1n> AvatarA: Version: 6:9.18-0ubuntu0.14.04.1
[17:17] <Miar> badbodh : I thought I could trust him as he works for a a prestigious company in the US - Rhino Labs .
[17:17] <badbodh> Miar: if you can't install your os by yourself, you are a beginner and must stick to a single DE for learning and usage. when you get a hang of things you can try those geeky things like multiple DE's, dm's etc
[17:18] <badbodh> at best what he did to you was experimental. maybe he doesn't want you to bother him and taught you a lesson by installing tons of junk :D
[17:18] <Miar> badbodh : I can install my OS by myself :P I had given it to him for some malware removal tasks on windows. But yes I am certainly a beginner.
[17:18] <Miar> badbodh : So is there anyway to fix these issues without re-installing the entire thing ?
[17:19] <AvatarA> what's the version of your youtube-dl?
[17:19] <AvatarA> youtube-dl --version
[17:20] <badbodh> then format,re-install, stick to one DE for now. since you do not have all the info, we better not advise. half-knowledge is fatal
[17:20] <CB6> Do you guys have a favorite LAMP install guide that shows a relatively secure install?
[17:20] <badbodh> it's like removing the wrong kidney of a heart-transplant patient. (that makes no sense but you get the idea)
[17:21] <Miar> Okay thanks :) Ill be meeting a friend who works at Google ,London in a few days. Lets see if he can fix it for me :P Otherwise re-format :(
[17:21] <Luy1n> AvatarA: 2015.07.21
[17:21] <Miar> re-install*
[17:22] <badbodh> good luck Miar
[17:24] <AvatarA> try to export as wav and see if it works
[17:24] <AvatarA> otherwise you're stuck with compiling a newer version of the needed libraries
[17:27] <iLogic> hey guys, i'm adding a ppa via add-apt-repository with no errors but it doesn't show when I apt-get update.. anyone had that problem?
[17:27] <Luy1n> I'll be gone for dinner now, can't delay. but staying in the channel. brb ~30 min
[17:30] <bekks> iLogic: what was the entire output of "add-apt-repository"?
[17:31] <xangua> what repository¿ what ubuntu release¿
[17:50] <phaazon> hi!
[17:50] <phaazon> is there a place to find Ubuntu TUs?
[17:50] <phaazon> or whatever those guys are called
[17:51] <phaazon> I think I’ve found a weird bug with Ubuntu + OpenAL
[17:51] <phaazon> see this: https://github.com/phaazon/al/issues/5#issuecomment-125022470
[17:53] <AEL-H> Could someone explain to me why copy and pasting a link into a firefox tab gives a different result to opening the same link from terminal which opens  it into firefox but handles it differently?
[17:54] <cr45h> Could you clarify a bit?
[17:55] <dunnowhoiam> I believe he means that firefox acts differently depending on how the url is opened.
[17:56] <AEL-H> dunnowhoiam: Yes I think so
[17:56] <AEL-H> I am attempting to use wget to download a file from my university portal , I have loaded cookies onto it, I find by just typing that url into my browser, I get a different screen than when I open link in terminal -- but both open in firefox
[17:56] <phaazon> no one for my OpenAL issue?
[17:57] <phaazon> any other channel to seek help?
[17:58] <nmatrix9> join #krita
[17:58] <phaazon> #ubuntu-packaging sounds good
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> phaazon  i read here apen al is for music ... try #ubuntustudio
[17:58] <akik> AEL-H: you might look into changing the http user agent in wget
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> open*
[17:59] <brainwash> phaazon: you can ask on the openal mailing list also
[17:59] <phaazon> MonkeyDust: it’s an issue with the .pc file
[17:59] <phaazon> I’m not sure #ubuntustudio would help me
[17:59] <cfhowlett> phaazon, #opensouremusicans
[18:00] <cfhowlett> #opensourcemusicians
[18:00] <amberdic1ey> help
[18:00] <amberdic1ey> oops sorry
[18:01] <Smilerut> how do I upgrade from plasma 4 to 5 ?
[18:01] <Smilerut> on Ubuntu, that is
[18:03] <AEL-H> akik: I am not sure what you mean
[18:03] <akik> AEL-H: i'm not sure if you meant that wget behaves differently than your web browser and if you're having a problem downloading with wget
[18:04] <AEL-H> the command "firefox URL" produces a different result than simply typing URL into the firefox bar at the top
[18:04] <AEL-H> One of them brings up an "Access
[18:05] <AEL-H> One of them brings up an "Access denied" whilst the other redirects me to the login page
[18:05] <brainwash> Smilerut: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2269102
[18:05] <akik> AEL-H: you could install httpfox or similar add-on which shows you all addresses that your web browser makes
[18:07] <AEL-H> Do you know how I could pass in parameters such that wget authenticates and grabs the file? I have loaded in the correct cookies however instead of authenticating the command just gets stuck unable to download, I CTRL C out and then I find it has downloaded the "Access denied" page
[18:08] <akik> you would need to figure out how the authentication works. you can add http headers to wget
[18:09] <akik> also if it's http basic authentication there are --http-user and --http-password
[18:09] <iamtoodumb> hi. got a strange problem: i open bitmask --> open deluge/transmission --> for a few seconds download/upload speed is normal --> after some time it drops to 0 --> have to turn off/on bitmask again --> etc.... anyone has an idea?
[18:09] <jcalonso> Hi, I'm getting this error after executing apt-get upgrade in ubuntu 14.04: "libpython2.7 : Depends: libpython2.7-stdlib (= 2.7.6-8) but 2.7.6-8ubuntu0.2 is installed" Any ideas?
[18:10] <iamtoodumb> sudo apt-get install libpython2.7-stdlib
[18:10] <AEL-H> akik: How can I tell what authentication method it is, I don't think it is simply http basic authentication
[18:11] <JacobEdelman> does anyone here have any idea how I would go about getting libgl1-mesa-dev:i386 on trusty? Install is saying the dependency mesa-common-dev:i386 is unmet.
[18:11] <cfhowlett> AEL-H, possible workaround.  start the download if ffox.  go to ffox downloads and copy the url.  wget -c theurl
[18:11] <AEL-H> cfhowlett: thanks I will try that now
[18:12] <JacobEdelman> iamtoodumb: would that work for my problem too?
[18:12] <iamtoodumb> try
[18:12] <JacobEdelman> iamtoodumb: okay, will do
[18:12] <JacobEdelman> thanks
[18:12] <JacobEdelman> install seems to be working
[18:14] <JacobEdelman> iamtoodumb: success! Thanks a bunch!
[18:14] <iamtoodumb> sure. np
[18:15] <paulo> oi
[18:15] <paulo> hi
[18:17] <AEL-H> cfhowlett: So did you mean to get ffox to download and then interupt that download and direct wget to that interupted file in place of url?
[18:18] <cfhowlett> AEL-H, no don't interrupt.  wget -c to the same download location.
[18:18] <cfhowlett> AEL-H, and if you do get interrupted, wget -c should allow you to restart
[18:19] <anonymous> hithere
[18:24] <AEL-H> cfhowlett: I think I may have misunderstood, I downloaded the file from ffox -- no problems. I then ran the same command to the same url on wget, same problem
[18:34] <naftilos76> Hi, i am having issues with the so called "tearing effect" in ubuntu 14.04, latest mint rafaela, latest suse but not in ubuntu 15.04 (other graph issues exist there). So what is tearing effect after all? What i see on my lcd is a slight but fast movement of everything going from left to right or something like that. I can see the picture except that everything trembles just a little bit. Is that what tearing effect is? Also, have there been any solu
[18:34] <naftilos76> tions for this issue?
[18:34] <OerHeks> naftilos76, on what videocard?
[18:35] <OerHeks> in Terminal: lspci | grep VGA
[18:35] <naftilos76> GPU is Geforce 840M and intel. This is a hybrid graphics laptop.
[18:36] <OerHeks> naftilos76, nice, but on which one? and intel version?
[18:37] <Luy1n> in case anybody listened to my discussion with AvatarA, downloading to WAV format seems to do the trick. I didn't have any errors so far. I will then use avconv to convert to mp3 so the car stereo can read it, since it can't read vorbis files.
[18:37] <naftilos76> Yes the exact same behavior on both
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> !info winff | Luy1n
[18:38] <Luy1n> thanks MonkeyDust, but I prefer the CLI ;)
[18:40] <naftilos76> OerHeks, i just tried a live image and the same thing happened. I saw that nouveau was enabled but as i said it did not make any difference in kubuntu 14.04. No matter what i used (intel, nouveau, nvidia) the exact same artifact existed. Could it be solved via a xorg.conf option?
[18:40] <naftilos76> live image of mint rafaela
[18:41] <OerHeks> naftilos76, i read a lot of issues with the 840m, no solutions.
[18:41] <naftilos76> ok thanks
[18:41] <OerHeks> well, mint has its own issues, but what happens with 15.04?
[18:43] <naftilos76> well i was mostly interested in 14.04 but 15.04 has a few things like: the whole lcd is rolling towards right or left for a few seconds and then stops
[18:43] <naftilos76> OerHeks
[18:44] <Kali_Yuga> does Flash ever going to be fixed? cuz I still always have to click "Allow Now" ?
[18:44] <naftilos76> OerHeks, It is random too. During the boot down it may happen but also may not!
[18:45] <naftilos76> OerHeks, it is just annoying. It is a brand new laptop...
[18:45] <squinty> Kali_Yuga,  try installing   flash-installer   to see if that resolves the problem
[18:46] <Kali_Yuga> Okay I will try... U don't have to click allow now?
[18:46] <Kali_Yuga> Unable to locate package flash-installer
[18:47] <SepLite> Sorry to contribute more to the multitude of conversations going on simultaneously in this room, however could anyone help me force/change my combo jack to "line in" for my mic?
[18:47] <OerHeks> naftilos76, maybe the 352 driver fixes thing, the 346 too but not optimal, from xorg-edgers ppa >> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[18:49] <OerHeks> Kali_Yuga, enable multiverse repo first
[18:50] <OerHeks> !info flashplugin-installer
[18:50] <naftilos76> OerHeks, as i said it is a non-nvidia specific driver issue. I have tried 352 and i got a black screen without any strange installation instructions from tutos around the net. It has got to be something related with the syncs but i am not sure...
[18:50] <naftilos76> OerHeks, sorry it is not a nvidia-specific issue
[18:52] <OerHeks> naftilos76, that ppa also gives newer xserver-xorg-video-intel, but you said it is on both, so you think it is not a driver issue ?
[18:52] <mason15> can anyone help me convert html files to epub in ubuntu
[18:53] <kaligne> Hello I can connect to my computer from any other conneted o the internet using ssh by specifying my user name and inet address (ssh xxx.xxx.x.xx@myself). I was wondering, is that possible to connect to my computer using http? more precisely, is it possible to connect to my public_html from the internet, without dns bu with my mere inet address?
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> kaligne  that sounds like something for ##networking
[18:55] <OerHeks> kaligne, yes with a lamp server
[18:55] <ioria> naftilos76, by a quick search on compiz -  tearing  seems that compiz could solve the issue ... but i can't say more .... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1390284
[18:55] <OerHeks> !lamp
[18:55] <naftilos76> OerHeks, i am sure because using 346 nvidia on 14.04 and 15.04 gives me a totally different behavior. On 14.04 i get the artifacts but not on the 15.04 (except for a few seconds during boot, loging out, loging in)
[18:56] <naftilos76> OerHeks, thanks for your time
[18:56] <OerHeks> ioria, good one, worth a try
[18:56] <ioria> OerHeks, old thread ... :-(
[18:57] <OerHeks> ioria, yes, but i read this before ""Sync To VBlank" to "enabled"¨
[18:57] <ioria> yep
[18:57] <OerHeks> in compiz, not nvidia settings
[18:58] <OerHeks> But all those bugreports are complaining about nvidia only ..
[18:59] <ioria> OerHeks,but the V-sync problem is general
[18:59] <OerHeks> Yes, some complain about missing this feature in nvidia settings, so it is generally set in compiz i guess
[18:59] <ioria> OerHeks, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_tearing
[18:59] <d3ngar> hi there, I seem to have a weird issue: when I plug my USB network adapter in it identifies it fine and connects, but I cannot resolve DNS anymore. Why is that?
[19:00] <OerHeks> lots of hints to this, but Intel screantearing also, that is new for me
[19:01] <ioria> OerHeks, someone on Xubuntu solved with compton
[19:01] <ioria> !info compton
[19:03] <SepLite> Could anyone point me to a channel to go to for an issue with audio jacks/combo ports?
[19:04] <OerHeks> ioria, i'd love to add a screentearing factoid in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[19:04] <OerHeks> SepLite, for ubuntu i would say #ubuntu-studio
[19:05] <SepLite> OerHeks: Thanks!
[19:05] <ioria> ^_^
[19:07] <SimonSez33> did someone try to use the video editing software edius per wine on ubuntu?
 I could access it without LAN? Would it work with just an apache virtual hosts? ( so the L an A of LAMP  ;)
[19:08] <easyOnMe> anyone here who knows a javascript obfuscator that runs on ubuntu
[19:09] <dunnowhoiam> easyOnMe: uglifyjs?
[19:09] <kaligne> Besides, MonkeyDust, since I am doing networking on an Ubuntu is asking here ok this time?
[19:09] <easyOnMe> dunnowhoiam: is it downloadable and does it run on ubuntu
[19:10] <OerHeks> sure, you could make a local homepage, and test it with without publishing on your ip, just on your local machine ip, and virtual.
[19:10] <dunnowhoiam> easyOnMe: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/uglifyjs
[19:10] <easyOnMe> dunnowhoiam: have you used it before
[19:11] <dunnowhoiam> easyOnMe: not a whole lot, but yes
[19:11] <ioria> SimonSez33, no, why you use it  ? ... for a cam
[19:11] <OerHeks> kaligne, just don't forward port 80 in your router :-)
[19:12] <ioria> SimonSez33, ok ... 16:9 ?
[19:12] <cliftonts> Could anyone remind me how I can reset my password if I can't remember it? I need to chat to someone in #python and it won't let me in unless I log in.
[19:13] <easyOnMe> dunnowhoiam: so which of these shall I download: uglifyjs_1.3.4-1.dsc, uglifyjs_1.3.4.orig.tar.gz, or this one uglifyjs_1.3.4-1.debian.tar.gz
[19:13] <kaligne> OerHeks ould this be a bad or insecure thing to do?
[19:14] <OerHeks> cliftonts, easy , read this page on #freenode https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#sendpass
[19:14] <cliftonts> I've just found the info, thanks. All these usernames and passwords these days drive me up the wall!
[19:14] <dunnowhoiam> easyOnMe: If you have npm, just do a npm install --global uglifyjs
[19:15] <ioria> SimonSez33, you can try kino
[19:15] <OerHeks> kaligne, not supersecure, but reasonable as a try-out.
[19:15] <ioria> !info kino
[19:15] <easyOnMe> dunnowhoiam: what is the command on the terminal to check the MD5 checksum for ubuntu
[19:15] <OerHeks> kaligne, i think the guys in #ubuntu-server can tell you more about that than me.
[19:16] <easyOnMe> OerHeks: what is the command on the terminal to check the MD5 checksum for ubuntu
[19:16] <SimonSez33> thanks ioria
[19:16] <OerHeks> !md5sum
[19:16] <easyOnMe> OerHeks: I mean in ubuntu
[19:16] <kaligne> OerHeks ok thank you very much :)
[19:17] <OerHeks> also a link to the checksums but those are easy to find.
[19:20] <easyOnMe> dunnowhoiam: I downloaded the original so how do I use uglify then after I extracted the folder
[19:20] <easyOnMe> OerHeks: thanks
[19:22] <ubuntu666> test
[19:25] <artur99> Is there any ubuntu version that is totally minimal? I mean no gui, no pyhton, no ruby, no perl, no gcc, only basic packages?
[19:25] <Scy> !list
[19:25] <daftykins> !mini | artur99
[19:25] <ioria> !minimal
[19:25] <artur99> i downloaded and installed this
[19:26] <artur99> but while installing it installed hundred of unneeded packages
[19:26] <artur99> hundreds*
[19:26] <daftykins> it's not *that* bad
[19:26] <bekks> artur99: How do you know they are unneeded?
[19:26] <daftykins> if you have an issue with an install taking up 1GB disk then you might need to reevaluate life
[19:26] <artur99> well at least I dont need them :)
[19:27] <artur99> I need to install only an apache & mysql server and php
[19:27] <OerHeks> discussion about the standard choise for desktop selections.. i think ubuntu needs more things standard :-P
[19:27] <bekks> artur99: Which doesnt mean they are unnecessary. The package management system will break without Python, e.g.
[19:27] <daftykins> artur99: go nuts on this ;) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core
[19:27] <OerHeks> err.. how about ubuntu-server?
[19:27] <OerHeks> :-D
[19:27] <artur99> aah :))
[19:27] <OerHeks> then you get tasksel etc etc
[19:28] <artur99> and is there any other linux distro that won't include these? :D
[19:28] <bekks> artur99: Nope.
[19:28] <artur99> i tried DSL, but it still has GUI, and it wont recognise my mouse :))
[19:28] <bekks> artur99: Because every distro needs different packages you dont know about :)
[19:28] <OerHeks> mouse ...
[19:29]  * OerHeks runs away
[19:29] <daftykins> artur99: tinycore?
[19:29] <bekks> "mouse" on a "minimal" system :>
[19:30] <artur99> bekks, I need mouse to get out of a GUI
[19:30] <daftykins> if you've got a GUI it's not minimal
[19:30] <daftykins> also, that's 100% wrong
[19:30] <bekks> artur99: Using the !mini install, you dont have a GUI :)
[19:30] <artur99> yes but i will have a few hundred Mbs
[19:30] <bekks> artur99: And?
[19:31] <bekks> artur99: Why is that critical to you?
[19:31] <daftykins> megabits?
[19:31] <artur99> i need it to make a portable VirtualBox machine with a small system
[19:31] <bekks> Virtualbox is not to be made portable.
[19:31] <artur99> you can export/import virtual machines
[19:31] <artur99> :D
[19:31] <bekks> Which doesnt make Virtualbox portable.
[19:32] <artur99> well i meant "a protable OS that would run on any PC that will have VB installed"
[19:32] <artur99> :
[19:32] <artur99> :D
[19:32] <ubuntu666> help my cat is on the keyboard
[19:32] <bekks> Install Ubuntu on a USB stick, install Virtualbox, done.
[19:32] <ubuntu666> CV3ZRMzlm BeW1kckdoZ1pRU01 NUh2e lA3ZkpLN XhIQ jI2SnhvV Gpra0tXTDl  VRGJXRW5
[19:33] <artur99> bekks :( It is for a contest :D they are asking us to have an exported VB system
[19:33] <ubuntu666> pokk
[19:33] <ubuntu666> sorry
[19:33] <artur99> with our projects
[19:33] <bekks> artur99: Install Ubuntu on a USB stick, install Virtualbox, export a virtual machine, import it.
[19:33] <Luy1n> I'm having problems handling my wav files with avconv. obviously spaces are a problem for avconv, for it raises an error "./16.: No such file or directory" when converting "16. The Final Countdown-Europe (Punk Goes Classic Rock 2).wav". I tried using a bash script http://paste.ubuntu.com/11943856/ and I get errors for each file. so how do I avoid the whitespace problem?
[19:34] <artur99> yeah but that exported virtual machine won't have a big size?
[19:35] <artur99> that's why i need a very small system...
[19:35] <bekks> artur99: Thats totally unrelated to installing Ubuntu on a USB and installing Virtualbox. The size of the virtual machine does not depend on the host system.
[19:36] <easyOnMe> I install perl using this command:sudo apt-get install perl libcgi-pm-perl
[19:36] <easyOnMe> as instructed by a documentation
[19:36] <bekks> easyOnMe: By which documentation?
[19:36] <easyOnMe> how come when I run this command it does not work: Desktop/Stunnix-JS-Obfus-5.2-Linux-trial/bin/startui.pl
[19:37] <easyOnMe> bekks: http://stunnix.com/support/doc/jo/install-guide.shtml
[19:37] <bekks> easyOnMe: Elaborate on "does not work" please.
[19:37] <easyOnMe> bekks: I expect a GUI to pop up but nothing happens
[19:37] <easyOnMe> after I type those commands in the terminal
[19:37] <ioria> Luy1n, \
[19:38] <bekks> easyOnMe: and does your system meet the requirements mentioned?
[19:38] <easyOnMe> bekks: yes
[19:39] <OerHeks> easyOnMe, paid stuff, they have their own support .. http://stunnix.com/support/
[19:39] <reveredge> hey
[19:39] <Luy1n> ioria: I understand how to escape a space normally, but can I pass that to my $file variable?
[19:39] <easyOnMe> OerHeks: no I just used their trial version
[19:39] <reveredge> I want to specify different location for installation through apt-get
[19:39] <easyOnMe> lol
[19:39] <reveredge> is there any way?
[19:40] <ioria> Luy1n, i think sed... but why not rename the files ?
[19:40] <Luy1n> ioria: because it's a great lot of files :(
[19:40] <ioria> Luy1n, rename script
[19:40] <ioria> *loop
[19:41] <Luy1n> ioria: you mean smth like "for file in dir; do $sedmagic here; done" ?
[19:41] <bekks> easyOnMe: And that version is still supported by that company ;)
[19:42] <ioria> Luy1n, i did it once ... i don't remember but is easy http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2709458/bash-script-to-replace-spaces-in-file-names
[19:44] <ioria> Luy1n, rename "s/ //g" * ... also works
[19:45] <ioria> Luy1n, no, you have to add \
[19:45] <easyOnMe> bekks: yup
[19:45] <Luy1n> ioria: it worked with the commands from your link, thank you
[19:45] <EriC^^> Luy1n: use "$file"
[19:45] <ioria> Luy1n, ok ^_^
[19:46] <Luy1n> EriC^^: oh I could have thought of that. damn ;(
[19:46] <easyOnMe> bekks: their instruction was very simple extract the tar.gz file in any directory and run the bin/startui.pl and that's it
[19:47] <easyOnMe> unfortunately when I did so no GUI pops up
[19:47] <bekks> easyOnMe: So consult their support.
[19:54] <easyOnMe> bekks: if I issued this command into the terminal: M720SRS:~/Downloads$ sudo apt-get install perl libcgi-pm-perl does it mean that I install Perl inside the Downloads folder
[19:55] <bekks> easyOnMe: No.
[19:56] <bomberman> how can i use utf-8 here? )
[19:56] <bekks> easyOnMe: Installing something into the Downloads folder is pretty much insane :)
[19:56] <easyOnMe> bekks: so you mean I installed Perl correctly on my laptop
[19:56] <bekks> easyOnMe: I dont know, since you havent pastebined the full output of that command.
[19:57] <easyOnMe> bekks: one sec
[19:59] <easyOnMe> bekks: http://pastebin.com/4htpRd2H
[19:59] <bekks> easyOnMe: Given your output, the perl packages mentioned are installed correctly.
[20:00] <xdosx> hi everyone
[20:01] <easyOnMe> bekks: still I am wondering why bin/startui.pl does not invoke the software's gui
[20:01] <squinty_> easyOnMe,  in Synaptic package manager locate the package file name (ie firefox) and then right click on it.  Click on Properties and then Installed Files    A listing of what files were installed to what directories is available there
[20:01] <bekks> easyOnMe: Ask the support of that software.
[20:02] <Lurchy>  hey everyone...anyone have experience with "wake on LAN" setups for ubuntu server?
[20:02] <Lurchy> trying to get this ASUS P5N-D ubuntu server box to wake up remotely
[20:03] <easyOnMe> squinty_: by Synaptic package manager you mean the software center in ubuntu
[20:03] <easyOnMe> I mean the Ubuntu Software Center
[20:03] <Lurchy> I enabled settings in BIOS to WOL...but is "suspend" in ubuntu the same as "sleep?
[20:04] <daftykins> easyOnMe: no they are separate, hence the different names.
[20:04] <squinty_> easyOnMe,  not sure if Software Center will display that off-hand but Synaptic package manager (install either via apt-get or Software center) will and is in the repo's
[20:04] <easyOnMe> daftykins: where do I find the synaptic package manager in ubuntu
[20:04] <easyOnMe> squinty_: no nothing was installed actually
[20:05] <easyOnMe> instead only extracted files
[20:05] <daftykins> easyOnMe: after you install it, but don't if you don't need it.
[20:06] <squinty_> easyOnMe,  my comments were in respect to  <easyOnMe> bekks: if I issued this command into the terminal: M720SRS:~/Downloads$ sudo apt-get install perl libcgi-pm-perl does it mean that I install Perl inside the Downloads folder     not your propriety software
[20:07] <easyOnMe> squinty_: so how do I find the synaptic package manager
[20:08] <squinty_> easyOnMe,  <squinty_> easyOnMe,  not sure if Software Center will display that off-hand but Synaptic package manager (install either via apt-get or Software center) will and is in the repo's
[20:09] <SepLite> So after an hour of searching for help on other channels, here I am again....
[20:10] <SepLite> Anyways, can anyone help me change a combo jack to mic input?
[20:10] <SepLite> Every time I connect a mic(or any other device) pulseaudio detects it as a headphone
[20:11] <bekks> SepLite: So thats the headphone port. :)
[20:12] <SepLite> Combo jack, meaning headphone and mic port are the same one :/
[20:12] <Niju> Just discovered the joys of 'screen' for terminal apps ☺
[20:12] <Niju> How did I manage before?!
[20:13] <compdoc> you only just popped into existence
[20:13] <SepLite> in windows it makes me choose headphone or mic every time I connect something
[20:16] <Raulwynn> I'm on an adventure to play Diablo III on linux.
[20:16] <rypervenche> Niju: Check out tmux. Screen hasn't been worked on since 2005. Tmux is nicer.
[20:17] <Raulwynn> Anyway, when I get Battlenet pulled up, I cant seem to launch D3
[20:17] <Niju> Will do rypervenche, thanks
[20:19] <TempMe> Hello. Someone experience with USB smart card readers ?
[20:20] <TJ-> TempMe: Many of us; please ask your specific question :)
[20:21] <OY1R> How do i make ubuntu ask to unlock keyring ?
[20:21] <TempMe> Hello TJ.
[20:21] <TempMe> My : Bus 001 Device 002: ID 072f:9000 Advanced Card Systems, Ltd ACR38 AC1038-based Smart Card Reader
[20:21] <TempMe> won't recognise as ttyUSB
[20:21] <OY1R> i cannot connect to my wifi since it's not asking for the keyrings
[20:22] <TJ-> rypervenche: Re screen, that isn't correct. GNU screen is still being worked on. Wily has v4.3.1 released end of June 2015
[20:22] <TJ-> TempMe: ttyUSB* are for serial devices... is the SMART card supposed to present such an interface?
[20:23] <melodie> hi
[20:23] <melodie> has someone started laptop-mode-tools in his laptop with Trusty lately? on minimal installs for instance? I seek for testimonials about #1475951
[20:24] <TempMe> How can I verify if  it is a serial device ??
[20:24] <jhutchins> TempMe: It's not a serial device.
[20:25] <TempMe> how do you know ?
[20:25] <jhutchins> TempMe: That's not what a serial device is.
[20:25] <jhutchins> TempMe: It should present a card inserted as a storage device.
[20:25] <rypervenche> TJ-: Ah, I stand mistaken.
[20:25] <TJ-> TempMe: Usually manufacturer datasheets - But, looking at the current mainline Linux kernel I can't find any driver module that matches that device ID
[20:26] <TempMe> ok, will see if I can find something in datasheets.
[20:27] <jhutchins> TempMe: Your system recognizes it as a card reader, so it should have the correct driver loaded and work fine.
[20:27] <jhutchins> TempMe: Is it not working?
[20:27] <TJ-> TempMe: In fact the only mention in the kernel of that manufacturer ID (ACS 0x072f) is for the PN533 driver
[20:29] <OerHeks> https://mark911.wordpress.com/2014/01/04/how-to-get-the-eid-electronic-card-reader-acr38u-working-in-ubuntu-14-04-64-bit/
[20:30] <TempMe> Don't know if it is working, as I need to specify something as /dev/ttyUSBx for the application I wan't to let it use
[20:31] <TempMe> PS : I don't want to use it as eID reader
[20:32] <TempMe> PN533 driver is reprecenting what ?
[20:32] <TJ-> TempMe: PN533 is an NFC device
[20:33] <TempMe> soory fot the many questions, but what is a NFC device ?
[20:34] <kresk> Is Ubuntu a good choice for someone new to Linux completely?
[20:35] <TJ-> TempMe: Near Field Commununications
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> !manual | kresk start here
[20:36] <Raulwynn> kresk Yes.
[20:36] <TempMe> kresk. I knew nothing on linux and I love Ubuntu, as you can find A LOT ( everything ) of information online
[20:36] <Raulwynn> I'm a day into it and I'm already getting the hang of it.
[20:36] <mtoroyarzo> w
[20:36] <TempMe> even started with a headless server ...
[20:37] <Raulwynn> Once you're used to the way it is different than windows you'll be blown away at it's simplicity
[20:37] <Raulwynn> It's one downfall is hardcore gaming is lacking but it's stepping up
[20:38] <Raulwynn> Oh, and It's 1000x more stable than Win and OSX when you have the right build for your rig
[20:40] <TempMe> ( not used to use IRC : how do you put the name-to in front of a chat line ? )
[20:41] <TJ-> TempMe: Did you look in "/var/log/dmesg" or (if you connected the device after boot-time "/var/log/kern.log") for kernel messages indicating the smart card reader being detected?
[20:41] <squinty_> !tab
[20:41] <TJ-> TempMe: Usually type a few characters of the nickname, then press Tab to complete it/offer all the possible completion options
[20:41] <Raulwynn> ubottu: I just learned something.
[20:42] <Raulwynn> Wow...
[20:42] <Raulwynn> Blown away again.
[20:42] <TempMe> TJ- I did : I grep-ed for ttyUSB but found nothing. But it is recognized :
[20:42] <TempMe> [ 1982.680306] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, device number 2
[20:42] <TempMe> [ 1994.304205] usb 1-1: new full-speed USB device number 3 using uhci_hcd
[20:42] <TempMe> [ 1994.685155] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=072f, idProduct=9000
[20:42] <TempMe> [ 1994.685182] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[20:42] <TempMe> [ 1994.685193] usb 1-1: Product: ACR38 USB Reader
[20:42] <TempMe> [ 1994.685204] usb 1-1: Manufacturer: ACS
[20:43] <TJ-> !paste | TempMe
[20:43] <Raulwynn> Anyone play Battle.net on Wine?
[20:43] <TJ-> TempMe: As it is a smart card reader I think you *may* need the PCSC daemon. See "apt-cache show pcscd" and if you want to install it do "sudo apt-get install pcscd"
[20:43] <squinty_> !anyone
[20:44] <squinty_> !wine
[20:45] <TJ-> TempMe: That kernel log output is simply telling you the device was connected... the english text comes from the USBIDs file, it doesn't indicate a driver is known
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> squinty_  use /msg ubottu to test !factoids
[20:45] <TempMe> TJ: I have pcscd running
[20:46] <squinty_> MonkeyDust,  not testing.  scroll back
[20:46] <TJ-> TempMe: You may also need to "sudo apt-get install pcsc-tools"
[20:46] <TempMe> TJ: so I should find the driver for it ?
[20:46] <pj__> When I try to mount my windows partition from ubuntu to view my files I get this error "Error mounting /dev/sda4 at /media/pj/E62C09032C08D08B: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/sda4" "/media/pj/E62C09032C08D08B"' exited with non-zero exit status 14: Windows is hibernated, refused to mount.
[20:46] <pj__> Failed to mount '/dev/sda4': Operation not permitted
[20:46] <pj__> The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown
[20:46] <pj__> Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume
[20:46] <TJ-> TempMe: It looks as if the user-space libraries know how to talk to the device, and a kernel-level driver isn't needed
[20:46] <pj__> read-only with the 'ro' mount option." This is despite the fact that I shut down windows correctly, how do I fix this.
[20:47] <TJ-> pj__: the output tells you: " Please resume and shutdown Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting)"
[20:47] <TempMe> TJ: i Have already pcsc-tools running
[20:48] <TJ-> TempMe: Does it report that device when you list them with pcsc_scan ?
[20:48] <squinty_> pj__,  try running a chkdsk while in windows to see if anything barfs etc
[20:48] <talkingmovies> Hey everyone. I'm a super noob -- basically bought a Dell Chromebook for podcasting and installed Ubuntu on it in order to have it work. It's been going great. However I have this problem that I CANNOT find any solution for online. Earlier today i lost minimize/maximize windows and my cursor is an X. Things stay stickied, and I can't really exit/delete the session as much as I try. I am again, REALLY green with all of this. But so
[20:48] <talkingmovies> mething I saw about unmounting the chroot? I need some help and don't know where else to turn.
[20:48] <TempMe> TJ: yes. It even shows me my inserted card
[20:49] <pj__> tj_: That was my question, I saw that but I had shutdown windows correctly, and I always get this error even though I'm fully shutting down windows
[20:49] <bekks> pj__: you have to ensure that fastboot is disabled.
[20:49] <talkingmovies> I'm using xfce by the way
[20:50] <pj__> bekks: is fastboot a setting in windows
[20:50] <bekks> pj__: Yes.
[20:50] <pj__> bekks: Thanks, that sounds like it should solve it
[20:50] <TempMe> TJ-: so it seems recognized by the system, but i don't know how I should specify it to my application
[20:52] <squinty_> TempMe,   just out of curiosity does it show in the Disks program?
[20:52] <TempMe> how do I verify ?
[20:52] <AEL-H> Can anyone here recommend a general purpose hex editor for use on ubuntu?
[20:53] <TJ-> TempMe: The application should either directly use the PCSC API interface libraries, or support NSS (which requires manually adding the PCSC device to the NSS db_
[20:53] <talkingmovies> Hey everyone. I'm a super noob -- basically bought a Dell Chromebook for podcasting and installed Ubuntu on it in order to have it work. It's been going great. However I have this problem that I CANNOT find any solution for online. Earlier today i lost minimize/maximize windows and my cursor is an X. Things stay stickied, and I can't really exit/delete the session as much as I try. I am again, REALLY green with all of this. But so
[20:53] <talkingmovies> mething I saw about unmounting the chroot? I need some help and don't know where else to turn.
[20:53] <talkingmovies> Shit. Didn't mean to send that again.
[20:53] <TJ-> !patience | talkingmovies
[20:53] <talkingmovies> I didn't mean to repeat! Accident.
[20:54] <daftykins> talkingmovies: boot an older kernel to try, but i suspect you're running a non-truly normal ubuntu build there
[20:54] <talkingmovies> Sorry for the ignorance -- but I don't know how to boot an older kernel.
[20:55] <daftykins> hold left shift after power on and select an older one under 'advanced'
[20:55] <talkingmovies> Thank you!
[20:55] <TJ-> AEL-H: For GUI  or terminal (try "apt-cache search 'hex.*edit' ") ?
[20:59] <TempMe> TJ- application uses a config file where i need to specify the cardreader by /dev/tts/0 or /dev/ttyUSB0  or ...
[20:59] <TJ-> TempMe: Not sure how you deal with that; the card-reader doesn't have a serial interface
[21:01] <AEL-H> Thanks TJ-, but I was more looking for a recommendation rather than a list of hex editors
[21:01] <TJ-> TempMe: is there a "/dev/pcsc/" ?
[21:02] <TJ-> AEL-H: that's a very personal kind of preference; I use hexedit (terminal) for simplicity but there are many more with more/less features
[21:03] <AEL-H> In terms of a general purpose good for most applications would there be a particular hexeditor anyone could recommend?
[21:04] <TempMe> TJ- did a ls -al in /dev and there isn't
[21:05] <odisa> Hello.
[21:05] <daftykins> lo
[21:05] <TJ-> TempMe: shame: I saw a suggestion on the pcslite project pages that for devices  in /dev/pcsc/ you can create a serial driver sym-link such as "ln -s /dev/pcsc/1 /dev/ttyS4"
[21:07] <odisa> I was hoping someone could help me with the following: I just made a back-up of my hard drives. I put all the documents from my Ubuntu partition into a seperate folder on the back-up drive (NTFS), and all seemed well. Then booted in to Windows, and I can't access the folder. Everything else is accessible. What went wrong?
[21:07] <TJ-> TempMe: That directory, or a similar one, is supposed to be created/managed by the pcscd apparently. I don't have a unit here to be able to test that
[21:07] <odisa> "not accessible the filename directory name or volume label syntax is incorrect
[21:07] <odisa> is the error code I get
[21:07] <odisa> message*
[21:08] <odisa> Would it have to do with permissions maybe?
[21:09] <TempMe> TJ- so when i compair disconnected /dev list with connected /dev list , I may find it ?
[21:10] <bekks> odisa: NTFS is unable to store linux permissions. So unless you are backing up documents only, your backup cannot be restored properly.
[21:11] <odisa> bekks: I see. Well they are just files and folders I had. And they are accessible through the Ubuntu Live USB I have.. What do you suggest would be a solution?
[21:12] <TJ-> TempMe: No, from what I'm reading when PCSC daemon is running there should be a "/dev/pcsc/" device directory... any detected readers are added as nodes in that directory, the first as "/dev/pcsc/1" and so on
[21:12] <bekks> odisa: Not using NTFS on the backup drive.
[21:12] <TJ-> odisa: That sounds as if some of the files/directories have characters in their names that are illegal on NTFS according to Windows
[21:12] <odisa> bekks: Which file system then?
[21:13] <bekks> odisa: The same filesystem your Ubuntu uses.
[21:13] <odisa> TJ-: ohh.. the folder name is "Linux?"
[21:13] <TJ-> odisa: With a question mark in it?
[21:13] <TempMe> TJ- as far as I saw, pcsc is for serial (rs232) readers, USB reader seems otherwise treated
[21:13] <odisa> TJ-: yes.. maybe that's it. do you think going back with the Live USB and changing that would do the trick?
[21:14] <odisa> bekks: Well I wanted it NTFS to make it accessible from both Windows and Ubuntu, as I plan to do a clean dual-boot install
[21:14] <TJ-> odisa: that would do it. See https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd317748%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
[21:15] <odisa> TJ-: So had I created the folder in Windows, it would've stopped me from using that char I guess then?
[21:15] <TJ-> TempMe: No, PC/SC is an API interface definition defining how cards, readers, and operating systems/applications talk to each other
[21:15] <TJ-> odisa: Yes, I think so
[21:16] <odisa> TJ-: Alright thank you..! I'll try that, hope it works. If not, I'll be back. Good day all :)
[21:16] <skinux> I need reminded of the command(s) to check if SWAP partition is actually mounted and if not how to set the system to mount it on startup again?
[21:16] <TempMe> TJ- I found this : USB  smart  card  reader  drivers  are located in /usr/lib/pcsc/drivers
[21:16] <TempMe>        directory  as  a  bundle.
[21:16] <TempMe> TJ- on http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/pcscd.8.html
[21:17] <stevenmcqueeven> do you guys have any links to some guides about customizing the desktop?
[21:17] <TempMe> TJ- so maybe it needs a driver ?
[21:17] <TJ-> TempMe: You can see where all the package files are with "dpkg -L pcscd"
[21:18] <TJ-> TempMe: I think the drivers are brought in by another package that pcscd depends on
[21:18] <TJ-> TempMe: E.g: package "libacr38u" if it isn't already installed, is possibly what you need
[21:20] <TempMe> TJ- dpkg -L pcscd result on http://paste.ubuntu.com/11944491/
[21:22] <TJ-> TempMe: Yes, I can see that on my own system using "apt-file list <package>" since I don't have the package installed.
[21:22] <TempMe> TJ- libacr38u on http://paste.ubuntu.com/11944501/
[21:23] <TJ-> TempMe: That's good! Can you show me the udevd rule? "pastebinit /lib/udev/rules.d/92-libacr38u.rules"
[21:27] <TempMe> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/11944532/
[21:27] <cyborg_> Hello
[21:28] <skinux> How do I get a list of mounted partitions that includes volume labels?
[21:29] <skinux> I found sfdisk, but it doesn't say what the partition is, just mount names.
[21:29] <ra21vi> try sudo fdisk -l
[21:29] <ra21vi> sorry.. mount
[21:30] <TJ-> TempMe: So that simply sets the group owner of the device node, but it doesn't change whatever node name the device gets. That's what you need to find out still. You're sure there's no "/dev/pcsc/" directory, or similar naming?
[21:30] <skinux> Well, that command didn't return anything saying swap....so does that means SWAP isn't getting mounted???
[21:31] <TJ-> skinux: "lsblk -f"
[21:31] <wafflejock> skinux, this should work, lsblk -o name,mountpoint,label,size,uuid
[21:31] <RaulwynnAndroid> Ive installed gnome on ubuntu 14.04 but it made things bad so i tried to revert back to unity and now im getting a tty1 log in screen and unity wont run.
[21:31] <k1l> skinux: swap is not a "mount"
[21:31] <TJ-> skinux: "cat /proc/swaps"
[21:31] <odisa> TJ-: Thanks! Changing the folder name totally did the trick :)
[21:32] <RaulwynnAndroid> Its also telling me com.ubuntu.upstart does not exist and compiz (core) couldnt open display
[21:32] <skinux> When I installed the system, there was a specific SWAP partition created, it was recommended to do so.
[21:33] <TJ-> skinux: "grep swap /etc/fstab /etc/crypttab"
[21:34] <skinux> I've 3-4G RAM and there should be 1-2G SWAP, yet with Google Chrome using 1G, HexChat, Terminal, and Eclipse running, I'm so low on memory my system keeps freezing for a few seconds.
[21:35] <skinux> Here is the output: https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/991f7ad9ac5e07fe71f1
[21:35] <k1l> skinux: swapon -s
[21:36] <jamesd_> eclipse and chrome are pigs...  get a ssd for swap... or add more ram, or close more tabs... you may want to disable flash, which has been known to cause slowdowns
[21:36] <skinux>  /swapfile                               file		4194300	431868	-1
[21:36] <TempMe> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/11944591/
[21:37] <wafflejock> RaulwynnAndroid, sounds like when you tried to remove gnome you may have removed other parts of the system that are required, upstart is the system that starts up the rest of the OS basically
[21:37] <wafflejock> RaulwynnAndroid, you can try, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:37] <skinux> jamesd_: I've had the same issue with PhpStorm, so I don't think Eclipse really makes much difference.
[21:38] <wafflejock> it should reinstall any missing dependencies for unity
[21:38] <skinux> Although, I may be willing to start using Firefox again it's memory leaking problem has been taken care of.
[21:38] <RaulwynnAndroid> Unable to locate package Ubuntu desktop
[21:38] <skinux> Or maybe literally use Chromium if I can install Google Chrome extensions to it.
[21:39] <k1l> RaulwynnAndroid: "ubuntu-desktop" is the package name
[21:39] <m1dnight_> Is it possible to start a program for a user that has /bin/false as shell?
[21:39] <chingao> skinux: the command "free -m" will display the total amount of free and used physical and swap memory
[21:39] <RaulwynnAndroid> I know irs not finding it
[21:39] <wafflejock> raul782, should be there http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/ubuntu-desktop
[21:39] <wafflejock> RaulwynnAndroid, ^
[21:40] <k1l> RaulwynnAndroid: please show the exact command and the output in a pastebin
[21:41] <RaulwynnAndroid> Paste.ubuntu.com/11944623
[21:41] <skinux> I just added results of free -m to my Gist, I don't properly understand differences between how cached and used memory are actually used.
[21:41] <Nokaji> How do I copy a file to usr/lib64 - I do not have permissions to paste apparently
[21:41] <skinux> My understanding of cached memory is memory that Ubuntu/Linux has reserved for use, but isn't actually used....which is pointless to me.
[21:43] <RaulwynnAndroid> There is no X envoirnment I guess?
[21:43] <RaulwynnAndroid> Makes sense
[21:43] <skinux> RaulwynnAndroid: X environment for what?
[21:43] <wileee> skinux, It was set up by people whom understand, if you don't than you're subjective opinion is moot
[21:43] <k1l> skinux: you are wrong. unused ram is pointless
[21:43] <k1l> so "free ram" is just driving a whole bus to transport only 1 person. so linux thinks: well i will use the free seats to speed up things
[21:43] <RaulwynnAndroid> I was trying to boot bioshock infinite from the terminal lol
[21:43] <k1l> RaulwynnAndroid: sorry had a reconnect, did you show a pastebin?
[21:43] <RaulwynnAndroid> Being silly
[21:44] <RaulwynnAndroid> I did but I cantvdo much without x runtime stuff
[21:45] <RaulwynnAndroid> Whatever its called no unity and | pastebinitvisnt working
[21:45] <loosebolton> Say I want to wipe Ubuntu off my dual boot machine and install a different linux distro. What partitions can I keep without formatting, without having conflicting configs in the new distro? I assume /swap, what about /boot or /home?
[21:45] <chingao> skinux: Line 3 of your gist shows Linux is using 2703 megabytes and has 1118 MB free for use. Line 4 shows you are using 422 MB of swap
[21:46] <loosebolton> Also, grub is pretty good at detecting Windows these days, correct?
[21:46] <k1l> skinux: linuxatemyram.com
[21:46] <wileee> loosebolton, What are you trying to save for the new install anything?
[21:46] <skinux> As far as I can tell, only 1/4 of SWAP is being used, but my RAM is pretty much full.
[21:46] <chingao> skinux: ideally you shouldn't be using any swap.
[21:47] <loosebolton> wileee: I don't care about anything in /home, but I'd like to keep /boot and just add the new system to grub, to avoid messing something up and breaking windows
[21:47] <k1l> RaulwynnAndroid: so will you provide any more details?
[21:47] <loosebolton> Do you think grub is safe enough to let it auto detect windows for me?
[21:48] <Nokaji> s'okay, dunnit
[21:48] <wileee> loosebolton, keeping /boot as is is not good, use the partitions as is but formatted, if you need nothing saved.
[21:48] <daftykins> loosebolton: yes. pretty pointless having a /boot.
[21:48] <k1l> loosebolton: i would discuss that with the new linux you want to install. since its their version and settings that will be used
[21:48] <RaulwynnAndroid> Yeah Im booting from a liveusb right now. The only part that is running off my hdd is tty1
[21:48] <RaulwynnAndroid> Im trying to install unity to the hdd wgile running off of a usb
[21:49] <k1l> RaulwynnAndroid: what is installed on that system?
[21:49] <skinux> Hmm. Well, the last time I had this problem it was because Ubuntu messed up and stopped mounting SWAP. Once I fixed it I didn't have the laggyness anymore.
[21:49] <wileee> RaulwynnAndroid, with a chroot?
[21:49] <loosebolton> Alright, I'll just wipe everything and do it from scratch. Hopefully everything goes alright and I don't lose my windows functionality. The mobo is new and uses UEFI though, so I should be good
[21:49] <skinux> But, it doesn't seem that is the problem this time around.
[21:49] <wileee> loosebolton, back it all up always.
[21:50] <RaulwynnAndroid> Chroot?
[21:50] <loosebolton> yeah I have my data backed up, jsut would like to avoid having to reinstall
[21:50] <RaulwynnAndroid> How do I do this?
[21:51] <ObrienDave> loosebolton, don't wipe windows, just the ubuntu partitions
[21:51] <wileee> loosebolton, Excellent. ;)
[21:52] <loosebolton> ObrienDave: Windows is actually on a separate drive, I'm just worried about it being missing from the bootloader
[21:52] <ObrienDave> k
[21:52] <TJ-> TempMe: I've done a *lot* of reading and in summary I'm finding that "pcscd needs to be restarted after inserting a reader otherwise it won't be recognised"
[21:52] <ObrienDave> loosebolton, you can always update GRUB to find windows
[21:52] <skinux> Okay..so I have 1.1G free out of 3-4G RAM and 4G SWAP.
[21:53] <TempMe> TJ- so kill and start again ?
[21:53] <wileee> skinux, what does this mean, "3-4G RAM" are you not sure?
 RaulwynnAndroid: what is installed on that disk?
[21:53] <skinux> Yeah, I'm not for sure if I have 3 or 4 gigs of RAM.
[21:53] <Na3iL> hey who want me to share my wikipage with him, and give me his feedbacks.. I'm thinking already about applying for Ubuntu membership
[21:54] <TJ-> TempMe: "sudo systemctl  restart pcscd" I think
[21:54] <ObrienDave> skinux, most likely 4G
[21:54] <wileee> skinux, figure it out, having a comment like that is a waste of all our time.
[21:54] <k1l> Na3iL: that suits better into #ubuntu-offtopic since that channel here is tech support focused
[21:54] <RaulwynnAndroid> Im running the liveusb to reinstall unity and seems to be working...
[21:54] <skinux> Well, "Mem" says 3822 under total, so I guess 4 gigs is right.
[21:54] <Na3iL> ok k1l ty
[21:55] <wileee> RaulwynnAndroid, If you are not chrooted to the install nothing is installing
[21:55] <TJ-> skinux: see http://linuxatemyram.com/
[21:55] <chingao> skinux: you have 3822 megabytes of ram total per what you pasted in your gist
[21:55] <skinux> Yes, I know...it's disk cacheing
[21:55] <TempMe> TJ- systemctl: command not found . Alternative ?
[21:56] <TJ-> TempMe: which ubuntu release is that? I thought it was using systemd
[21:56] <k1l> TempMe: systemctl is systemd. which ubuntu are you on?
[21:56] <RaulwynnAndroid> No idea what Im doing. Time to wipe I guess.
[21:56] <RaulwynnAndroid> Ubuntugnome is dumb
[21:57] <k1l> RaulwynnAndroid: why dont you just answer the questions?
[21:57] <RaulwynnAndroid> I have been
[21:57] <TJ-> TempMe: if not 15/04+ then use "sudo service pcscd restart"
[21:57] <k1l> RaulwynnAndroid: what is installed on that disk? what exactly? why dont you boot into that?
[21:57] <xjkx> [partition] my hard drive is with problem. I bought a new one. I cloned my ext4 partition (copied&pasted in gparted). Then grub was updated&installed. It found two ubuntus of the same version. But doesn't matter which one I pick, it always boots in my old hard drive :( because, it seems anyway, both partitions have the same uuid (since I copy pasted), so...maybe change uuid or what? They are also similar because one is sdb5 and other sdc5, so I don't know what 
[21:57] <RaulwynnAndroid> Because its only tty1 that will not locate apt install ubuntu
[21:58] <wileee> from a live right?
[21:58] <RaulwynnAndroid> No from tty1
[21:58] <k1l> RaulwynnAndroid: why is it booting into tty1?
[21:58] <wileee> after boot the live right?
[21:58] <TJ-> RaulwynnAndroid: if you clone a partition the file-system UUID will be identical, so it is 50/50 which one gets used
[21:58] <RaulwynnAndroid> Liveusb can findcit but wont install because my hdd is encrypted
[21:58] <TempMe> TJ- Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.13.0-46-generic i686)
[21:59] <TJ-> TempMe: OK, so use the latter command I gave you to restart the system service
[22:00] <wileee> RaulwynnAndroid, I would pay attention, you have some excellent helpers asking for info, stop, look and listen. ;)
[22:00] <RaulwynnAndroid> Its hard on a tinyv ndroid screen but im trying.
[22:01] <RaulwynnAndroid> Okay im logged into tty1. What do I do?
[22:01] <TJ-> RaulwynnAndroid: with the partition accessible, use "sudo tune2fs -U random /dev/sdXY" to change the UUID to a new random value, on one of the identical clones
[22:01] <wileee> RaulwynnAndroid, How did you get to this tty, from a booted usb or the install?
[22:01] <TempMe> TJ- * Restarting PCSC Lite resource manager pcscd                           [ OK ]
[22:01] <RaulwynnAndroid> The install.
[22:01] <wileee> cool thanks, that's all I need
[22:02] <k1l> RaulwynnAndroid: why is it booting into tty1?  i am really getting annoyed at having to ask questions over questions for getting details and you dont answer anything.
[22:02] <TJ-> TempMe: does pcsc_scan show the device still?
[22:02] <RaulwynnAndroid> Unity got messed up when i uninstalled ubuntugnome
[22:02] <TempMe> TJ- yes
[22:02] <RaulwynnAndroid> After restart it was dead.
[22:03] <chingao> skinux: troubleshooting why your system is freezing up might be a little tough. I'm guessing a combination of the top and iotop commands would be needed.
[22:03] <TJ-> skinux: have you explored changing the sysctl value for vm.swappiness ?
[22:04] <skinux> I was just thinking about swappiness, but don't know how to set it.
[22:04] <RaulwynnAndroid> Disconnected sorry.
[22:04] <TJ-> TempMe: OK, well if that is showing up the device is being presented as expected. You'll need to ask the device-manufacturer/supplier, or the developers of PCSC/libacr38u about getting a serial device, if that is possible at all
[22:05] <TJ-> skinux: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness
[22:05] <RaulwynnAndroid> So im in tty1 on the installed os and unitycwont work because gnome killed it after uninstall
[22:05] <TempMe> TJ- OK. Thanks TJ for your patience and help !
[22:06] <TJ-> TempMe: Good luck with it :)
[22:06] <skinux> It appears I have 4G RAM 4G SWAP, so I don't know why I should be having memory problem anyway. Browser is using ~1G, then HexChat, Eclipse, and Terminal are running. I should have plenty of memory altogether.
[22:06] <TJ-> RaulwynnAndroid: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop"
[22:07] <RaulwynnAndroid> TJ please hold
[22:07] <skinux> Hmm...apparently my swappiness is set to 10
[22:07] <TJ-> skinux: it might not be a memory issue, it may be simply the -generic kernels aren't well-tuned to some desktop workloads. You might find the -lowlatency kernel alternatives perform better
[22:08] <TempMe> join #adiirc
[22:08] <RaulwynnAndroid> Unable to locate package ubuntu-desktop
[22:08] <skinux> I'm gonna try changing swappiness to 60
[22:08] <RaulwynnAndroid> @tj
[22:08] <TJ-> skinux: That's pretty aggressive, so when files need to be read the kernel needs to seek and read the file blocks from disk again
[22:08] <skinux> Which is agressive, 10 or 60?
[22:09] <k1l> skinux: so you already changed that
[22:09] <TJ-> RaulwynnAndroid: what does "cat /etc/issue" report?
[22:09] <ObrienDave> skinux, 10
[22:09] <chingao> skinux: 10 seems agressive
[22:09] <bekks> skinux: 60 is more aggressive than 10.
[22:09] <k1l> skinux: the answer in the askubuntu link explains it
[22:09] <RaulwynnAndroid> No such file or directory
[22:10] <skinux> Well, that article says Ubuntu uses a default of 60, so if 10 is agressive why would Ubuntu go with a default of 60?
[22:11] <k1l> skinux: did you read what the difference is?
[22:12] <TJ-> skinux: vm.swappiness controls the *balance* between evicting file-pages vs anonymous-pages from memory. Values lower than 60 will force the file-pages to be evicted from the file-cache. You might be better off with a *larger* value than 60
[22:12] <daftykins> skinux: 60 what? pears? bananas?
[22:12] <ObrienDave> really? ;p
[22:13] <RaulwynnAndroid> Tj: No such file or directory
[22:13] <TJ-> RaulwynnAndroid: sounds like the entire system has been hosed.
[22:13] <RaulwynnAndroid> Yeah. Im actually already reinstalling
[22:13] <skinux> Okay, so you're saying to get rid of the slowness/lagginess, I want to use SWAP more often?
[22:13] <RaulwynnAndroid> TJ Im going to go eat a hotdog.
[22:14] <AbuDhar> hey
[22:14] <AbuDhar> anyone who has experience with Ubuntu phone?
[22:14] <AbuDhar> do you like it?
[22:14] <xangua> !touch
[22:14] <AbuDhar> thanks.
[22:14] <TJ-> skinux: No, I'm not, since we don't know what is causing the lag. I'm just explaining the implications of the possible vm.swappiness values on performance.
[22:17] <skinux> For the most part, it happens when I open up a blog that has a bunch of ads.
[22:17] <skinux> Or when I have more than 6 browser tabs.
[22:17] <TeddyMurray> hi, is there anyway i can monitor why the mysql db is crashing? someone said its a RAM issue (512mb) but no one uses the site besides me.
[22:18] <ObrienDave> *face palms* and you can't figure out why you have lagginess?
[22:18] <TJ-> skinux: uninstall flash, install an ad-blocker, use noscript!
[22:19] <teward> skinux: is not visiting that site with a ton of ads an option?  And install an ad blocker, use noscript, and don't use Flash (where possible)
[22:19] <ObrienDave> adding 4G more RAM would be better
[22:19] <TJ-> ObrienDave: What? just so the ad-brokers can burn more of the system's resources? :)
[22:20] <skinux> I don't want to use noscript because I don't want to block JavaScript entirely.
[22:20] <AbuDhar> can I install Touch on any phone?
[22:21] <ObrienDave> TJ-, no so people wont ask silly questions when they can't figure out why 6 open tabs and 42 ads per page bog down the system ROFL
[22:21] <TJ-> skinux: I use noscript by default and simply create permanent permissions for sites/scripts I wish to allow
[22:21] <k1l> AbuDhar: needs an open bootloader and linux drivers. but better ask the specialists in #ubuntu-touch
[22:22] <TJ-> ObrienDave: :p ... I get rather annoyed over such browser issues, especially as here in the E.U. we have a law that requires web-sites to obtain prior permission to place a TXT cookie *but* there's nothing similar requiring the same prior permissions if those sites wish to use/abuse the system resources!
[22:22] <chingao> skinux: I use Ublock Origin, but all my computers have 8GB ram.
[22:23] <ObrienDave> TJ-, you can't fix stupid ;P
[22:23] <TJ-> ObrienDave: explains why I despair every time I look in the mirror :)
[22:24] <ObrienDave> LOL
[22:25] <TeddyMurray> my mysqld is crashing without an error -- someone said i can use a "service monitor" to figure out how it's crashing -- any suggestions?
[22:25] <daftykins> run it instead of daemonising it
[22:26] <TeddyMurray> it crashes after some time, not on the initial run
[22:27] <Guillermo_> hola?¿
[22:27] <Guillermo_> alguien anda por aki?¿
[22:27] <TJ-> TeddyMurray: maybe it SIGSEGVs - run it under gdb (the debugger) and see if it catches a back-trace (best to install the -dbg symbol libraries if you choose that route)
[22:28] <TeddyMurray> cool thank you TJ-
[22:28] <k1l> !es | Guillermo_
[22:30] <loosebolton> How can I see the *exact* start and end points of my partitions? parted only shows within 1 GB
[22:31] <TJ-> loosebolton: "parted unit s print"
[22:32] <TJ-> loosebolton: see "man parted" and the description for "unit"
[22:32] <loosebolton> Thank you, sorry I should have just checked the man lol
[22:35] <TeddyMurray> TJ-, could you point me to a good tutorial for using GDB with Mysqld?
[22:36] <TJ-> TeddyMurray: see https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/using-gdb-on-mysqld.html
[22:37] <TeddyMurray> excellent, thank you
[22:38] <TJ-> TeddyMurray: did you check in "/var/log/kern.log" in case the kernel's OOM killer is terminating the process?
[22:38] <TeddyMurray> i did not, i will check not, i checked the mysql.err and mysql.log files -- and syslog
[22:40] <TJ-> TeddyMurray: if the server doesn't have much RAM then Out Of Memory killer can be a common issue *if* some DB client (e.g. a web application) abuses it
[22:40] <TeddyMurray> its a wordpress site, im the only one that uses it :(
[22:40] <TeddyMurray> still under development
[22:41] <TJ-> TeddyMurray: check if other processes are also eating up memory, forcing mysqld out possibly
[22:41]  * stareyes is away: I'm busy
[22:41] <TeddyMurray> ah nice, i will
[22:41] <k1l> !away > stareyes
[22:50] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows an alternative for pulseaudio? its chomping on my computers resources :\
[22:52] <TJ-> kokut: pulseaudo shouldn't be eating resources unless it's been configured to do something non-default like remixing samples (which require CPU processing), or if the hardware bit-rate doesn't match the default
[22:52] <wileee> kokut, use a lighter de
[23:06] <debbie_> /join #sailfish
[23:06] <debbie_> oops
[23:15] <kokut> hi, whats the geoip development library?
[23:16] <reisio> kokut: hrmm?
[23:18] <kokut> reisio: nvm found it
[23:18] <Kiranico> hi, I have a large .zip file on google drive, is there a way to wget/curl it?
[23:18] <reisio> Kiranico: I'm pretty certain google has a way to link to things, yes
[23:19] <Bloombug> Anyone??
[23:19] <krabador> ask
[23:20] <Bloombug> Thibking about getting a pi. Who do i enable rs
[23:20] <Bloombug> *raspbian's
[23:20] <Kiranico> reisio it can't be done, requires authentication etc
[23:20] <krabador> just a little bit offtopic mate
[23:20] <Bloombug> Normal GUI
[23:20] <Bloombug> Why???
[23:20] <Kiranico> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25010369/wget-curl-large-file-from-google-drive
[23:21] <reisio> Kiranico: nah
[23:21] <krabador> Bloombug, that's #ubuntu
[23:21] <Bloombug> F*ck!!! My bad!
[23:21] <reisio> not only is it possible, but asking a question just to pretend like you already knew the answer is pointless
[23:22] <Kiranico> reisio none of those methods work
[23:22] <reisio> Kiranico: well you're the one who mentioned them, not me
[23:23] <Kiranico> So it's actually possible reisio? I haven't been able to wget any large files
[23:28] <reisio> 'course it's possible
[23:32] <Kiranico> I'd like to know which command did you tried, as of currently I haven't been able to get it to work. Google Drive just spits back a sign in page.
[23:32] <Kiranico> My large file is shared with the public
[23:33] <Jad-C> Hello?
[23:33] <Jad-C> Can I have help with something?
[23:33] <reisio> how is it you have managed to use google drive without knowing how to transfer data to and from it?
[23:33] <reisio> Jad-C: depends on the something, doesn't it
[23:33] <Jad-C> lol
[23:33] <Jad-C> well
[23:33] <Jad-C> I'm trying to create a usb
[23:34] <Jad-C> where I can plug it into any computer, and
[23:34] <Jad-C> has all my files
[23:34] <Jad-C> on the usb
[23:34] <Jad-C> how would I do that?
[23:34] <Jad-C> plug it in with ubuntu and files*
[23:34] <Jad-C> (for libraries, so I can do my own stuff)
[23:35] <bazhang> persistent usb Jad-C
[23:35] <Kiranico> reisio are you trolling buddy? Of course I know how to transfer files, I just can't *wget* a file
[23:35] <Jad-C> well
[23:36] <Jad-C> one problem
[23:36] <bazhang> !usb | Jad-C
[23:36] <Jad-C> I have Universal USB Installer
[23:36] <Jad-C> -oh
[23:36] <Jad-C> thx
[23:36] <Jad-C> lemme check
[23:36] <squinty_> Jad-C,  or install directly to a usb stick of sufficient size
[23:36] <Jad-C> I have a 30GB usb
[23:36] <Jad-C> that enough?
[23:36] <squinty_> yep
[23:36] <Jad-C> phew
[23:36] <reisio> Kiranico: nice talking with you
[23:37] <Jad-C> wait
[23:37] <Jad-C> one problem
[23:37] <Jad-C> I have Universal USB Installer
[23:37] <Jad-C> and
[23:37] <doctorly> What is the best was to ssh into my desktop pc from my laptop, without a gui. And are there better options for being in-home/away from home?
[23:37] <Kiranico> reisio you know what wget is?
[23:37] <squinty_> Jad-C,  try not to use your Enter key as punctuation please
[23:37] <Jad-C> hm
[23:37] <Jad-C> Sorry, I just did it again xD
[23:37] <wileee> Jad-C, Can you think before posting and lay off the enter?
[23:37] <Jad-C> Habbit, sorry about it.
[23:38] <Jad-C> I'm on Universal USB Installer, and it says on Step 4: Set a Persistent file size for storing changes, I assume thats Persistent thing, but it only allows me to put 4089MB, I have a 30GB usb though.
[23:38] <reisio> sorry I have a rule lately, not to converse with people who call others trolls at the drop of a hat :)
[23:38] <squinty_> Jad-C,  fat32 only allows file size to 4gig
[23:39] <reisio> doctorly: what's stopping you from using just 'ssh'?
[23:39] <Jad-C> ah.
[23:39] <Jad-C> what format should I use, NTFS?
[23:39] <reisio> Jad-C: what do you need persistent storage for?
[23:39] <Jad-C> I plan on having a usb that I can plug into any ol
[23:39] <Kiranico> reisio didn't say you were a troll, but from this comment "how is it you have managed to use google drive without knowing how to transfer data to and from it?" you seem to be belittling me for no reason
[23:39] <Jad-C> computer and have my files
[23:39] <doctorly> reisio: what is the best server-side software to run though?
[23:39] <Jad-C> (sorry I accidently hit enter)
[23:40] <reisio> Kiranico: not even reading your msgs now
[23:40] <reisio> doctorly: openssh's sshd
[23:40] <reisio> Jad-C: if 'any ol computer' includes Windows or Mac OS boxes, yes, NTFS is the least annoying choice, sadly
[23:40] <Kiranico> alright man wasn't attacking you but if you see it that way, I can't help it
[23:40] <reisio> not even reading your msgs now
[23:40] <Jad-C> Just Windows.
[23:41] <squinty_> doctorly,  the ssh server is not install automatically.  you will need to install it
[23:41] <reisio> Jad-C: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/or#Conjunction
[23:41] <wileee> Jad-C, We see your premise, look up casper-rw as a partition, if you want more than 4 gigs persistence. However I would just do a full install on 32 gigs.
[23:41] <doctorly> reisio Also, won't I run into security problems? Is there a write-up I can read on making it secure for my network?
[23:41] <reisio> doctorly: ssh stands for secure shell
[23:41] <Jad-C> how do you do a full install on 32 gigs?
[23:41] <Jad-C> thats what im trying to do
[23:41] <reisio> doctorly: it's secure by default, just stay up-to-date
[23:42] <wileee> Jad-C, point the install at it, no different than any other install.
[23:42] <reisio> ^
[23:42] <squinty_> Jad-C,  start the installation program but point the partitioning section to your usb rather than hard drive
[23:42] <Jad-C> ah
[23:42] <Jad-C> Would I need more than 1 usb though?
[23:42] <robotonics> hello
[23:42] <Jad-C> or can I run the installer on the usb I install it on
[23:43] <squinty_> Jad-C,  yes or one usb and one dvd
[23:43] <Jad-C> oh ok
[23:43] <wileee> Jad-C, You will need a boot off the usb yes.
[23:43] <Jad-C> Thank you very much :D
[23:43] <Jad-C> I guess I could try a virtual machine actually
[23:43] <reisio> Jad-C: it's simpler with two devices, one to install from, and one to install to, yes
[23:43] <Jad-C> cuz this is my only usb
[23:43] <squinty_> Jad-C,  that was a "yes" for two usb's
[23:43] <Jad-C> Yes I know that
[23:43] <Jad-C> Alright, thank you all
[23:43] <Jad-C> Cya
[23:43] <squinty_> bye
[23:44] <doctorly> reisio: I understand that it is secure shell, I was just under the impression that the protol was superseded by other protocols now. That is good to know though, I will just do as you suggested, it sounds like the best option
[23:48] <reisio> doctorly: the only way that'd happen is if it was found out ssh had some absurd fundamental design flaw, which is probably impossible
[23:49] <reisio> basically all it does is send information to and from, encrypted in whatever the latest best encryption system is
[23:55] <xjkx> I cloned partition with dd from hdb5 to hdc5. I changed the uuid of hdc5. I changed /etc/fstab of mount point of hdc5 to the new uuid. I ran grub-update and grub install. But...when I load it (and I hit edit to see, it had the new uuid and hd2 meaning hdc), but it still loads hdb5, I don't understand :(