[01:53] <holstein> pharcide: sounds like, its not related to lxde, lubuntu then.. more likely a kernel driver.. maybe related to the ATI GPU.. what driver are you using?
[11:39] <Meerkat> Do I take build issues in #lubuntu-devel or here?
[12:05] <Meerkat> I don't seem to be interrupting anything. I'm compiling sylpheed with the sources from ubuntu 14.04 but when I run sylpheed I get "error while loading shared libraries: libsylpheed-plugin-0.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory".
[13:34] <Leonardo__> hello would like to know how to configure the Lubuntu networked with other computers, I have one with ubuntu 10.02 and one with windows 7
[13:35] <teward> Meerkat: so you need to install the development headers for that library
[13:35] <Leonardo__> how do I do that
[13:35] <teward> Leonardo__: i wasn't talking to you i was talking to someone else
[13:36] <Leonardo__> ok
[13:37] <teward> Leonardo__: you haven't defined what you mean by 'configured' and 'networked' - what exactly do you want to do with the network?  Plugging into the network, assuming DHCP and you had permission to do so, would be enough to get them 'networked'
[13:37] <teward> so you probably want something else
[13:37] <Meerkat> teward, I have the same question, though. How do I do that? :)
[13:39] <teward> Meerkat: ooo you're building from source.  that could be a problem, you may need their people's support because a from-source compile is ehh
[13:39] <Leonardo__> I need to share files from a PC to another all other pcs are already set up to make it just that I formatted now and I'm not consiguindo make sharing
[13:39] <teward> Meerkat: kinda curious why you're not using sylpheed from the repos though
[13:40] <Meerkat> teward, I am using that version. I just wanted to do some tweaks. Usually this is an easy task when doing 'apt-get source X' but sylpheed got a bit rowdy.
[13:41] <teward> Meerkat: try libsylph-dev
[13:41] <teward> install that
[13:52] <Leonardo__> help
[13:54] <Meerkat> did he leave?
[13:55] <teward> mhm
[15:00] <geo88> where are applications installed to when using apt-get install xxx?  someone on the forum has a similar problem as me and they fixed their problem by editing a file but i have no idea where to find it
[15:02] <geo88> specifically, the mime.c file for ushare.  sorry for being so basic and unfamiliar with these things.
[15:02] <teward> geo88: if you know what the filename is try `locate filename` from the command line
[15:02] <teward> without the backticks
[15:04] <geo88> teward: though i can't find the specific file i'm searching for in this instance, you've taught me a very useful function!
[15:05] <geo88> i feel so lost on this OS =/  this is day two on the live cd.  i'm hoping to make this my default os at some point (to replace winxp) but i'm trying to make sure i can do a couple of things before i make the jump
[15:06] <genii> geo88: dpkg -L packagename
[15:06] <genii> Will list all the files it installs and their paths
[15:08] <genii> Also, before you use the locate command, might want to issue the updatedb command
[15:08] <geo88> oh perfect! there are a lot of directories for me to explore but now i won't be doing it aimlessly.
[15:09] <geo88> i'm going to have a full cheat sheet of commands soon.
[15:10] <genii> geo88: If you want to do the reverse ( find what package a file belongs to) use: dpkg -S /path-to/filename  ...instead
[15:12] <geo88> genii: thank you!
[15:13] <genii> np
[15:17] <teward> that too
[15:51] <geo88> i don't know if i'll ever be proficient enough at this stuff to accomplish what i need.  besides web browsing, all i need this computer to do is stream video to an xbox.  any suggestions? =/
[15:51] <geo88> minidlna never showed the files but it connected, ushare couldn't play mp4s, and now i'm trying plex
[15:51] <holstein> what does the xbox need?
[15:52] <geo88> upnp server for videos
[15:52] <holstein> nothing about linux is preventing that
[15:52] <holstein> you are wanting to serve the files on a linux machine? and have the xbox play them?
[15:53] <holstein> i would think the xbox would see samba shares, have you tried?
[15:53] <holstein> !samba
[15:53] <holstein> maybe sure you can simply ping each other, and are on the same subnet, etc.. basic networking troubleshooting
[15:54] <geo88> i'll check that out holstein!
[15:54] <holstein> i'll be on the inside of my router, and simply disable all firewalls, for testing purposes.. i'll make sure i can ping each machine from each other..
[15:55] <holstein> i'll make sure im sharing files that the proprietary device i have no control over can play, and promises support for
[15:56] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Media will be the most relevant, i would say
[15:56] <holstein> the key being "There are currently no means for Linux to satisfy the Setup Key requirement, and you will not be able to make your updated Xbox 360 talk to your Linux machine."
[15:56] <holstein> so, if you are in that situation, you will need to ask microsoft to allow you to do what you are trying to do
[15:58] <holstein> personally, i had a much better time when i stopped trying to make linux fit in with other, more proprietary devices and software environments
[15:59] <geo88> such a pickle.  xp works fine for this but it's old and i want something stable and secure so i'm trying my best on lubuntu
[15:59] <holstein> if i bring a windows machine in, it has to speak ssh, rather than the other way around
[15:59] <holstein> geo88: sure.. but, the situation is, all of lubuntu is completely open.. all of linux.. so, if microsoft wants, they can allow this to happen, easily
[16:00] <holstein> they may not, since, its in the company interest for you to purchase another device, or product from them..
[16:00] <holstein> there is nothing wrong with that.. its just business.. but, for you, you may need to think more about linux support, from the start.. or, "hack" at the xbox.. or down grade it..
[16:01] <holstein> these days, i try and purchase with linux support in mind.. and, as much as possible, with open standards in mind..
[16:01] <holstein> the *only* reason you are having issues streaming anything to that xbox is a business decision, not hardware or software limitation..
[16:02] <suncokret> i want to change PC, this have chipset intel q965 , graphic gma 3000, audio realtec... newer will have chipset intel q45, gma 4500, audio realtec... i will use same HD on newer machine... will Lubuntu which is installed on older machine work on newer machine?
[16:03] <holstein> suncokret: you mean, will linux.. and typically, yes. the linux kernel will just recognize different hardware like that.. the kernel is modular
[16:03] <suncokret> so linux recognize new hardware without problems?
[16:03] <holstein> where you may have issues is, if you install a proprietary GPU driver, and configure the system to use that module.. then, when you move, the different hardware is a different GPU.. that doesnt support the current kernel module
[16:04] <holstein> suncokret: it will be up to the hardware manufacturer to *promise* you that it will work with linux.. but, what im saying is, typically, since the kernel is modular, then, yes, it will be easily move-able
[16:04] <suncokret> this intel gma 3000 don't use proprietary drivers
[16:04] <holstein> suncokret: it literally wont hurt to try it, and *before* the move, remove or uninstall any proprietary modules you have configured
[16:04] <suncokret> so it will not be problem
[16:05] <holstein> suncokret: so, it should not be a problem
[16:05] <suncokret> i don't have have proprietery drivers
[16:05] <holstein> it will work, as a new, live, or fresh install would work
[16:06] <suncokret> gma 3000 and gma 4500 are probably similar graphic cards
[16:06] <holstein> doesnt matter
[16:06] <suncokret> great
[16:06] <holstein> since, the kernel is modular, and the drivers that either support those devices, or not, are basically baked into the modular kernel
[16:07] <holstein> you dont install a driver for either, so, either the hardware supports linux, or not
[16:07] <holstein> you will make backups before the migration, regardless.. since *all* hard drives will fail.. and you will be prepared for when that happens, and be able to attempt the move without worry
[16:08] <suncokret> i have positions saved with clonezilla and norton ghost
[16:08] <suncokret> :)
[16:08] <holstein> so, you literally have nothing to lose to simply try it
[16:08] <suncokret> and as i say, i will use this hard disk
[16:09] <holstein> if the hardware doesnt explicitly promise linux support, then, you will just have to try it, and see
[16:09] <suncokret> so that can't be problem
[16:09] <suncokret> this surely have linux support, because it is intel chipsets with intel graphic cards
[16:10] <suncokret> brand name office PC
[16:10] <holstein> suncokret: "surely" is different than a company promising you support
[16:10] <holstein> suncokret: either they do, or not.. and if its not.. then, its community support, and that can be challenging.. or, can have compromises
[16:11] <holstein> linux is completely open for anyone to fully support
[16:11] <suncokret> i mean to say that there is quality open source drivers for this chipsets and graphic
[16:12] <suncokret> so i don't worry
[16:12] <holstein> if there are, then, they are baked into the kernel in lubuntu
[16:13] <suncokret> i just didn't know that linux kernel is modular to recognize new hardware, so i came to ask you
[16:13] <suncokret> :)
[16:15] <suncokret> do you save partition images of installed and configured lubuntu with clonezilla?
[16:16] <holstein> i dont image, personally
[16:16] <holstein> i backup my data..
[16:17] <suncokret> save partition as images are great thing, you can backup fresh installed and configured system for about 5 minutes
[16:19] <holstein> im not saying, nor implying a lack of greatness
[16:19] <holstein> what im saying is, i dont need image backups, so i dont do them.. i just backup the actual data..
[16:19] <holstein> when i need an image, i make one.. but, i seldom need that level of backup..
[16:22] <suncokret> i understand, i like to have os partition backup in case if i make some damage in os :)
[16:23] <suncokret> image not use much space, about 1,4 gb