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| FAalbers2 | Hello, How do I receive packages from Wily instead of Trusty ? I need newer version of openocd and Trusty is set to 0.7.0 instead of the latest 0.9.0 | 05:49 |
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| rect | Hi all, I am interested in working on the ubuntu-multi-computer experience | 05:55 |
| rect | It's 2015 and there is still unnecessary general friction when using more than one machine, in terms of synchronizing data and configuration | 05:56 |
| rect | Right now my thought about how to do this is around establishing separation of "data" and "system/configuration", and using declarative system configuration languages to compile provision systems | 05:58 |
| FAalbers2 | Hello, How do I receive packages from Wily instead of Trusty ? I need newer version of openocd and Trusty is set to 0.7.0 instead of the latest 0.9.0 | 05:58 |
| rect | I have a little writeup demonstrating a proof of concept of the first aspect here, which is the separation/divorce of the "storage" of data and the "application" of data | 06:00 |
| rect | I would really appreciate some feedback on the concept! | 06:00 |
| rect | http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/andrewjchen/andrewathome/blob/master/andrew%40home.ipynb | 06:00 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:45 |
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| Laney | siretart: I'm going to do it so we can get some stuff migrated | 08:41 |
| Laney | Guess we should transition off libav completely though? | 08:41 |
| ricotz | Laney, yes, libav needs to go away | 09:04 |
| Laney | ricotz: did Debian do it yet? | 09:04 |
| Laney | is it API compatible? | 09:04 |
| ricotz | Laney, https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/ffmpeg-libav.html | 09:05 |
| ricotz | and it is compatible in most cases | 09:05 |
| Laney | maybe someone could take the lead. ;) | 09:06 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, dholbach May I request a little bit of sponsoring please? | 09:17 |
| flexiondotorg | I'd like the ubuntu-mate meta packages tasks updating please. | 09:17 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, dholbach And the following two package updates: | 09:17 |
| flexiondotorg | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-settings/+bug/1476616 | 09:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1476616 in ubuntu-mate-settings (Ubuntu) " ubuntu-mate-settings 0.4.7 release [debdiff attached]" [Undecided,New] | 09:17 |
| flexiondotorg | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-artwork/+bug/1476611 | 09:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1476611 in ubuntu-mate-artwork (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-mate-artwork 0.4.11 new nelease [debdiff attached]" [Undecided,New] | 09:18 |
| dholbach | flexiondotorg, sorry, I'm a bit busy right now | 09:18 |
| flexiondotorg | dholbach, OK. | 09:18 |
| Laney | flexiondotorg: Sponsoring this afternoon | 09:19 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, Cheers. | 09:20 |
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| Laney | infinity: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11947918/ | 11:39 |
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| Laney | @pilot in | 13:23 |
| Laney | hmm | 13:25 |
| Laney | dholbach: know where the bot is? :) | 13:25 |
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| dholbach | Laney, hum | 13:26 |
| dholbach | pinged folks in #ubuntu-irc | 13:27 |
| Laney | cheers | 13:28 |
| Laney | I thought it was IS for some reason | 13:28 |
| dholbach | Laney, better now? | 13:35 |
| Laney | @pilot in | 13:36 |
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| Laney | dholbach: feels good! | 13:36 |
| * Laney does some warm up stretches | 13:36 | |
| dholbach | yeeehaw :) | 13:36 |
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| doko | tumbleweed, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/212703834/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.pyzmq_14.4.1-0ubuntu4_BUILDING.txt.gz | 15:11 |
| doko | however I don't see any b-d for greenlet and cffi | 15:11 |
| doko | jtaylor, ^^^ | 15:14 |
| doko | tumbleweed, did you file bug reports for the cffi backend split? | 15:18 |
| bb11 | hi! anyone can tell me which tool is used to build alternate installer / ubuntu-server images? apparently it's not debian-cd as this package is in universe and lacks ubuntu-specific settings | 15:23 |
| tumbleweed | doko: not yet. | 15:25 |
| infinity | bb11: It is a very old forked version of debian-cd | 15:29 |
| infinity | bb11: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/ | 15:30 |
| tumbleweed | doko: partly because I'm not ready for them yet. I just want them to start using pre-compiled 1.x style bindings | 15:30 |
| doko | tumbleweed, sure, but you get build failures when the extension is missing for -dbg packages | 15:31 |
| roaksoax | infinity: howdy! how can I check what bugs are yet to be verified for an SRU to go through? | 15:33 |
| bb11 | infinity: excellent, just what I needed :) | 15:33 |
| bb11 | thank you | 15:33 |
| infinity | roaksoax: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html | 15:34 |
| roaksoax | infinity: thanks! | 15:34 |
| flexiondotorg | infinity, May I ask a favour? Please could you update the ubuntu-mate seeds/tasks? | 15:34 |
| tumbleweed | doko: that's not what that bug is. That's a 3.5 porting bug I think | 15:35 |
| tumbleweed | doko: pyzmq previously used cffi only on pypy (which requires no build-deps) | 15:36 |
| tumbleweed | but it looks like it wants to use cffi on 3.5 too | 15:36 |
| doko | ahh | 15:37 |
| doko | anyway, have a fix | 15:37 |
| tumbleweed | I don't know *why* it wants to use cffi on 3.5, that would require looking at the source :) | 15:37 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: Bit busy right now, but if you ask again in a few hours... | 15:38 |
| flexiondotorg | infinity, OK | 15:42 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, Thanks for the sponsoring. | 15:58 |
| dholbach | hey seb128, do you know why ubuntu-desktop-next depends on grub-efi-amd64-signed? | 16:28 |
| seb128 | dholbach, to be able to have signed boot | 16:31 |
| seb128 | dholbach, is that an issue? | 16:31 |
| dholbach | seb128, I installed ubuntu-desktop-next this morning to play around with a unity8 session every now and then, it removed my grub-pc underneath me and broke boot with me just noticing it when I rebooted earlier | 16:32 |
| seb128 | urg | 16:33 |
| seb128 | dholbach, ubuntu-desktop-next is not supposed to be installed, it's the base for the snappy personal image | 16:34 |
| dholbach | people are going to install it if it's in the archive :) | 16:34 |
| seb128 | you probably wanted unity8-desktop-session-mir | 16:34 |
| seb128 | dholbach, you can use the same logic for grub-efi-amd64-signed | 16:34 |
| dholbach | unity8-desktop-session-mir installs less packages than ubuntu-desktop-next | 16:34 |
| seb128 | it's in the archive | 16:34 |
| seb128 | people are going to install it | 16:34 |
| dholbach | mh | 16:34 |
| ogra_ | dholbach, size doesnt matter ... ask your GF ! | 16:34 |
| dholbach | ogra_, you're such a troll | 16:35 |
| ogra_ | lol | 16:35 |
| Laney | O_O | 16:35 |
| seb128 | dholbach, anyway, unsure why grub-efi-amd64-signed is breaking boot | 16:35 |
| Laney | how is -efi installed for desktop? | 16:35 |
| dholbach | seb128, I'm not going to argue either way, I just didn't expect a *ubuntu*-desktop* package to lock me out of my laptop | 16:35 |
| seb128 | dholbach, yeah, me neither, sorry about that :-/ | 16:36 |
| dholbach | like... I could've installed kubuntu-desktop or lubuntu-desktop | 16:36 |
| Laney | I guess conditionally by ubiquity maybe? | 16:36 |
| dholbach | anyway... I just wanted to let you guys know | 16:36 |
| seb128 | dholbach, those are not -next :p | 16:36 |
| seb128 | dholbach, thanks, maybe worth opening a bug | 16:36 |
| seb128 | I don't know grub much | 16:36 |
| * dholbach starts considering carreer outside IT | 16:37 | |
| seb128 | what is grub-efi-amd64-signed made for? | 16:37 |
| infinity | seb128: For secure boot systems. Though, it should do no harm on any EFI system. | 16:39 |
| seb128 | what about non efi systems? | 16:39 |
| infinity | For non-EFI, it's slightly less useful. :P | 16:39 |
| seb128 | is what happened to dholbach expected? | 16:39 |
| infinity | Yes, it's why we don't ship grub-efi-amd64-signed (or bootloaders at all) in any desktop metapackage. | 16:40 |
| gQuigs | I think this should be a quick fix (I have a patch posted), and will save us livecd space - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1452472 | 16:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1452472 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Wily) "Drop gstreamer0.10 recommends in WW" [Undecided,New] | 16:40 |
| infinity | Bootloaders are mutually exclusive, so installing one that doesn't work tends to remove the one that does. | 16:40 |
| * gQuigs is also hoping to drop gstreamer0.10 to universe this cycle | 16:40 | |
| seb128 | "fun" | 16:41 |
| seb128 | dholbach, sorry about that :-/ | 16:41 |
| infinity | seb128: I'm guessing someone added it to desktop-next to mirror how we build livefses with *-live, but that should really be either hacked in livecd-rootfs, or part of a "desktop-next-live" instead. | 16:41 |
| seb128 | infinity, you guess right | 16:41 |
| dholbach | seb128, I'm glad I found the issue and hopefully not somebody else :) | 16:42 |
| seb128 | dholbach, I hope you manage to fix your machine | 16:42 |
| dholbach | yeah, took an hour because I had to download a live cd, etc, but that's fine | 16:42 |
| seb128 | good | 16:42 |
| Laney | gQuigs: We generate that package by modifying lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.wily desktop, not by editing it directly | 16:44 |
| gQuigs | Laney: oh, I'll redo a patch/merge proposal on that | 16:46 |
| Laney | gQuigs: Cheers. Seems like a good idea to me - didn't notice that we got there with dropping everything off the CD. | 16:47 |
| Davidk | Hi there! My friend and I have decided to make our own remastered version of Ubuntu GNOME. However, we ran into some trouble and I was wondering if anyone could help. We unpacked the OS with squashfs, made our little modifications, then repacked it and burned the ISO onto a disk. However, when we try to start the OS, we get an error message | 16:48 |
| Davidk | "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" | 16:48 |
| gQuigs | Laney: yup, it's just been pidgin for a while, posted a new patch to the bugf | 16:53 |
| Laney | gQuigs: Can you link a bzr branch instead? It'll have better metadata that way | 16:53 |
| gQuigs | Laney: propose branch for merging ? | 16:54 |
| Laney | nah | 16:54 |
| Laney | in general yes, but since I'm looking already, not necessary | 16:55 |
| infinity | gQuigs: Ahh, nice catch. Thanks for that. | 16:57 |
| gQuigs | Laney: I think I did that right, https://code.launchpad.net/~bryanquigley/+junk/gst0.10_ubuntu | 16:57 |
| Laney | gQuigs: Ta | 17:00 |
| Laney | let's see what breaks... | 17:01 |
| Laney | @pilot out | 17:01 |
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| * dholbach hugs Laney | 17:02 | |
| Davidk | Can anyone that's on possibly help me with an issue I'm having while trying to boot from a disk? | 17:29 |
| Davidk | There were slight modifications made | 17:29 |
| Davidk | Unpacked and packed via squashfs | 17:29 |
| Davidk | It says that no live media can be found | 17:31 |
| cyphermox | Davidk: did you rename the file in any way? | 17:54 |
| cyphermox | Davidk: if you're booting from a hard disk you may also need to pass live-installer/net-image=/path/to/the/squashfs_file to tell the installer where to get the squashfs | 17:55 |
| cyphermox | see http://www.michaelm.info/blog/?p=1378 | 17:55 |
| Davidk | cyphermox: no, no names were changed, as well as no paths | 18:04 |
| Davidk | And the error is "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" | 18:05 |
| dragos | hello i just win an ubuntu competition | 18:07 |
| dragos | i just remaster an ubuntu but when i click on live it asks for an username and an password. oh and btw i used remastersys for it | 18:09 |
| cyphermox | Davidk: if you specify live-installer/net-image I bet it's going to work | 18:10 |
| Davidk | cyphermox: okay, I will give it a shot | 18:10 |
| dragos | help | 18:12 |
| cyphermox | dragos: Davidk: for support, you should go to #ubuntu | 18:17 |
| Davidk | cyphermox: Will do as well if your solution does not work. But thank you so much for your assistance | 18:18 |
| cyphermox | no worries | 18:18 |
| Davidk | And I did in Ubuntu GNOME, as this is GNOME | 18:18 |
| Davidk | But they didn't have a solution unfortunately :/ | 18:19 |
| cyphermox | this is a typical issue on custom installs, the location of net-image needs to be specified if it's not on the cd | 18:19 |
| Davidk | Ahhh I see. I'll do it and recompile, tho that may take a while. It's my friends' and my first attempt at this so, all help is really and truly appreciated | 18:21 |
| cyphermox | you don't need to recompile anything for that | 18:22 |
| cyphermox | as you boot, you should be able to either use F6 to open up the ocmmand-line and add it there, or edit the grub menu entry | 18:22 |
| Davidk | Ooh that is perfect, thank you! | 18:22 |
| cyphermox | (well, for testing that it fixes your problem, anyway... to make it permanent you'll need to add it to preseed) | 18:23 |
| Davidk | Gotcha | 18:23 |
| dragos | some dude banned me from #ubuntu for no reasion | 18:25 |
| hjd | Hi, I've two questions; I'm curious why Ubuntu seem to use a different jpeg library than Debian (libjpeg8 vs libjpeg-turbo)? Secondly, even though it doesn't seem to be on the sync blacklist (http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/sync-blacklist.txt), why does libjpeg9-dev seem to be missing and causing build problems for yoshimi (https://launchpadlibrarian.net/210424457/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.yoshimi_1.3.5.1-2_BUILDING.txt.gz)? | 18:50 |
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| doko | infinity, please could you merge dpkg? | 21:17 |
| infinity | doko: Yes. | 21:19 |
| doko | robert_ancell, please update glibmm2.4 in silo 16 | 22:04 |
| robert_ancell | doko, ok | 22:04 |
| doko | robert_ancell, btw, are you connected for this stack with Debian? | 22:05 |
| robert_ancell | ? | 22:05 |
| doko | apparently no | 22:05 |
| infinity | Or he doesn't speak doko English. ;) | 22:05 |
| doko | I'm asking for the library renaming | 22:05 |
| doko | infinity, when do you merge dpkg? | 22:05 |
| infinity | robert_ancell: I think he meant "do you maintain any of these package in Debian too"? | 22:06 |
| infinity | doko: https://launchpad.net/~adconrad/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+packages | 22:06 |
| infinity | doko: Merged, just testing a bit before I copy. | 22:06 |
| robert_ancell | no, I don't maintain glibmm in Debian. | 22:06 |
| doko | ta | 22:06 |
| robert_ancell | doko, which library renaming are you referring to? | 22:06 |
| doko | robert_ancell, could you rename the package according to the proposed naming scheme? | 22:06 |
| doko | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=libstdc%2B%2B-cxx11;users=debian-gcc@lists.debian.org | 22:07 |
| doko | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=791050 | 22:07 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 791050 in src:glibmm2.4 "glibmm2.4: library transition may be needed when GCC 5 is the default" [Important,Open] | 22:07 |
| robert_ancell | doko, I can have a look at that | 22:07 |
| doko | and so on for the whole stack. your tech lead requested it | 22:08 |
| robert_ancell | doko, seb128 requested it? | 22:10 |
| doko | yes | 22:10 |
| doko | see backlog | 22:11 |
| jderose | is anyone aware of what bug is causing the 14.04.3 64bit desktop daily ISOs to fail the automated testing? when I try running the pending ISO, the installer seems broken (wont launch at all) | 22:18 |
| infinity | jderose: I'm not aware of such a bug, but I suppose I probably should be. :P | 22:19 |
| infinity | jderose: Is it only an issue with automated/preseeded testing, or does it fail to be useful when manually booted/driven too? | 22:20 |
| jderose | infinity: i was just curious if there was an LP bug out there already so i can poke around, try to help :) | 22:20 |
| jderose | infinity: fails when trying to manually boot into it... although thus far i've only run it under kvm, so might not be an issue on real hardware | 22:20 |
| infinity | jderose: Hrm. Kay. I'll grab a daily and see how it behaves for me after dinner. | 22:21 |
| jderose | infinity: cool, let me know where i can help :) | 22:21 |
| infinity | jderose: You can help by fixing all the bugs! | 22:22 |
| doko | robert_ancell, copying is not good enough, we can't copy the binaries into -proposed using the same version number | 22:27 |
| jderose | infinity: another possible hint... i noticed that ubuntu gnome 14.04.3 64bit daily has passed the automated testing. maybe it's just not running as many tests, but seemed a little suspicious | 22:30 |
| jderose | infinity: just tried on physical hardware... broken there too | 22:43 |
| infinity | jderose: Fun. Alright. Like I said, I'll look after dinner. | 22:45 |
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| infinity | jdstrand: Hrm. So, what's the failure you're seeing? I'm seeing no boot menu (weird), then straight to a blank desktop (probably a symptom of the first thing) | 23:33 |
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