| superfly | inetpro: you're awake far too early | 04:45 |
|---|---|---|
| nlsthzn | sup all? :) | 05:20 |
| nlsthzn | tad early I take it :p | 05:21 |
| pieter2627 | morning all | 06:01 |
| Kilos | morning superfly nlsthzn pieter2627 inetpro MaNI and others | 06:26 |
| MaNI | hi | 06:37 |
| nlsthzn | how are you uncle Kilos ? All well? | 06:42 |
| Kilos | with me ty yes nlsthzn just watching the news is depressing | 06:42 |
| Kilos | how you guys | 06:43 |
| Kilos | meeting here tomorrow night | 06:44 |
| Kilos | and in africa the next night | 06:44 |
| Kilos | aw superfly why we so serious | 06:44 |
| nlsthzn | ah ok... I try not to watch the news... | 06:45 |
| nlsthzn | I am working day after tomorrow so it will be to late for me | 06:46 |
| Kilos | np lad i understand | 06:46 |
| Kilos | our fly is becoming quite a baker | 06:50 |
| superfly | meh | 06:50 |
| superfly | when it actually works | 06:50 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:50 |
| Kilos | somewhere i have a relatively easy bread recipe, i will send it when i come across it | 06:51 |
| Kilos | i prefer making puffs | 06:52 |
| superfly | the difficult part is the kneading | 06:52 |
| Kilos | yeah | 06:52 |
| superfly | but we have a bread machine, so it does that for us ;-) | 06:52 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | mornings | 06:52 |
| superfly | morning ThatGraemeGuy | 06:52 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 06:55 |
| Squirm | Morning | 07:04 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 07:04 |
| Kilos | superfly http://bin.snyman.info/b3453 | 07:31 |
| Kilos | thats for rolls | 07:31 |
| Kilos | but works for bread too | 07:32 |
| Kilos | when making the rolls you can put strips of salami in the centre or cheese for flavoured rolls | 07:33 |
| Kilos | the measurements for 1 bread are those in the brackets | 07:35 |
| Kilos | if you dont like crispy crusts then when you remove from over you cover with a toweling dish cloth | 07:37 |
| Kilos | s/over/oven | 07:38 |
| nlsthzn | SA virus hit, power outage | 07:47 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:47 |
| barrydk | More almal | 09:06 |
| Kilos | hi barrydk | 09:13 |
| Kilos | hi pietie | 09:43 |
| barrydk | Hoe gaan dit Kilos | 09:49 |
| Kilos | goed dankie en self barrydk | 09:49 |
| barrydk | Stil en lus, maar nie lus om hier te wees nie, verlof was te lekker | 09:50 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:51 |
| barrydk | nie eers tyd gehad om bietjie hier te spy of te minetest nie | 09:52 |
| Kilos | haha | 09:54 |
| barrydk | Daars darem baie te doen en te sien op die tuinroete | 09:58 |
| Kilos | ya goeie pad om te ry as jy nie haastig is nie | 09:59 |
| barrydk | Net so eentonig al om die huis | 10:00 |
| pieter2627 | Hi oom Kilos | 10:06 |
| mazal | Hi everyone | 10:07 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 10:07 |
| pieter2627 | hey mazal | 10:07 |
| pieter2627 | i see we have a few bakers | 10:08 |
| mazal | bakers ? | 10:08 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:08 |
| pieter2627 | was the subject earlier | 10:08 |
| Kilos | i need to make puffs again with chili in | 10:08 |
| Kilos | chili bytes are good for cold weather | 10:09 |
| mazal | ag nee , here we go with the chili again :( | 10:09 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 10:09 |
| Kilos | hulle lekker met ui in ook | 10:09 |
| Kilos | of kaas og knoffel blare | 10:09 |
| mazal | no comment | 10:10 |
| pieter2627 | yea i can now also set my away status as 'Baking whatever' without too much shame :P | 10:10 |
| Kilos | do you bake pieter2627 | 10:10 |
| Kilos | i dont bake much | 10:10 |
| pieter2627 | bread a few times a week to have something for lunch | 10:10 |
| Kilos | wow | 10:11 |
| Kilos | tough in africa hey | 10:11 |
| pieter2627 | no, the rest of the household members are just too lazy to remember the recipes | 10:11 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:12 |
| mazal | I can only bake mielie bread | 10:12 |
| pieter2627 | sounds sweetish | 10:12 |
| Kilos | that be lekker bread | 10:12 |
| mazal | I used to do it regularly , but not anymore | 10:12 |
| Kilos | and banana bread | 10:13 |
| pieter2627 | hmmm yum yum | 10:15 |
| nlsthzn | wife has banana bread in oven | 10:31 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: maybe we also need that list for the za peeps so that one knows where to go to get a fresh baked banana bread for lunch :P | 10:34 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:45 |
| mazal | I'm always looking for good food sources :P | 10:47 |
| Symmetria | nlsthzn your wife has a bun in the oven? ;p | 10:55 |
| Symmetria | congrats ;p | 10:55 |
| Kilos | hi GnikLlort | 11:04 |
| GnikLlort | sup Kilos | 11:04 |
| Kilos | welcome to ubuntu-za | 11:04 |
| GnikLlort | ty | 11:05 |
| Kilos | GnikLlort tell us about yourself. like what you do and what system you use etc | 11:07 |
| GnikLlort | Im GnikLlort aka Chris, i do Security irl | 11:08 |
| GnikLlort | HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 3.16.0-44-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "trusty" 14.04 ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8700 @ 2.53GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 800MHz ** RAM: Physical: 3,8GiB, 72,1% free ** Disk: Total: 454,5GiB, 80,2% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel ** Ethernet: 645 NetLink BCM5784M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe ** | 11:08 |
| GnikLlort | Uptime: 6h 43m 35s ** | 11:08 |
| Kilos | and if you need any help just state what the prob is | 11:08 |
| GnikLlort | im just chilling atm | 11:08 |
| Kilos | oh you an old hand | 11:08 |
| Kilos | unity user | 11:08 |
| Kilos | nice to have you here | 11:10 |
| Kilos | oh and we are having our monthly meeting tomorrow night at 8.30pm here | 11:11 |
| mazal | Hi GnikLlort | 11:11 |
| Kilos | you are welcome to join in | 11:11 |
| GnikLlort | hi mazal | 11:14 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 11:14 |
| GnikLlort | dont think imma make the meeting tho | 11:14 |
| GnikLlort | I get home @ 6pm then at 8 im in bed | 11:15 |
| Kilos | aw | 11:15 |
| Kilos | too cold to stay up anyway | 11:15 |
| Kilos | i have no choice , im the greeting bot here | 11:15 |
| GnikLlort | lmao | 11:19 |
| Squirm | lol Kilos | 11:41 |
| Squirm | You do well as the greeting bot :D | 11:42 |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:42 |
| Kilos | thats all im good at | 11:42 |
| Squirm | https://pitstop.manageengine.com/sysadminday/myths-vs-facts.html?SysCamp | 11:42 |
| nlsthzn | bun in wife been out for five months now :p | 11:50 |
| pieter2627 | hi and welcome GnikLlort | 12:02 |
| Kilos | pieter2627 how did he get that pc infor all in one place like that? | 12:05 |
| pieter2627 | hexchat > View > send system info... i think | 12:05 |
| Kilos | oh ya | 12:05 |
| pieter2627 | s/view/window/ | 12:05 |
| pieter2627 | HexChat: 2.10.1 ** OS: Linux 3.19.0-16-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "vivid" 15.04 ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 1000M @ 1.80GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.80GHz ** RAM: Physical: 5.7GiB, 68.4% free ** Disk: Total: 175.0GiB, 13.1% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet ** | 12:06 |
| pieter2627 | Uptime: 6h 7m 19s ** | 12:06 |
| Kilos | i forgot that part | 12:06 |
| pieter2627 | jip that it | 12:06 |
| GnikLlort | hi pieter2627 sorry for the long reply | 12:06 |
| Kilos | i wonder how one would get that info in konversation | 12:07 |
| Kilos | not serious | 12:07 |
| pieter2627 | np, i took 2 or 3 hours to revive this mornings topic | 12:08 |
| GnikLlort | fastest way to get an unaffiliated host mask? | 12:08 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:08 |
| Kilos | go to #freenode and ask staff GnikLlort | 12:08 |
| GnikLlort | kk | 12:08 |
| Kilos | sometimes you have to be patient | 12:15 |
| GnikLlort | I have a-lot of time :) | 12:16 |
| Kilos | and you nick must be registered | 12:16 |
| Kilos | your | 12:16 |
| GnikLlort | -NickServ- Information on GnikLlort (account GnikLlort): | 12:16 |
| GnikLlort | -NickServ- Registered : Jan 11 07:53:01 2014 (1y 28w 1d ago) | 12:16 |
| Kilos | wow why you took so long to find us? | 12:17 |
| GnikLlort | I was on efnet | 12:17 |
| Kilos | are there buntu peeps there as well? | 12:17 |
| GnikLlort | yea, and some other that forced me to leave | 12:18 |
| Kilos | oh my | 12:18 |
| Kilos | oh well their loss is our gain | 12:18 |
| GnikLlort | true lol | 12:18 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:19 |
| Kilos | just make sure to add us to your favourites | 12:19 |
| Kilos | i like it when clever peeps join us, more place for me to get help | 12:20 |
| GnikLlort | added to autojoin | 12:20 |
| Kilos | cool | 12:20 |
| GnikLlort | hm, wonder if I should add a bnc here | 12:20 |
| Kilos | you will see we arent tied to the topic most of the time, this is like a family channel | 12:21 |
| GnikLlort | nice | 12:21 |
| Kilos | there is a song about us i think | 12:22 |
| Kilos | were simply the best | 12:22 |
| GnikLlort | ^^^^^^^^^^^ | 12:23 |
| Kilos | we have python experts, a bucket full of sysadmins | 12:23 |
| Kilos | some raw linux guys | 12:23 |
| GnikLlort | I know a little about python :x | 12:23 |
| Kilos | haha that reminds me | 12:24 |
| GnikLlort | Have been using Ubuntu for a few years tho | 12:24 |
| Kilos | we had a guy join here that said he loves doing python stuff | 12:24 |
| Kilos | i gave him a greeter bot script that needs some work | 12:25 |
| Kilos | and he never came back | 12:25 |
| GnikLlort | lold | 12:25 |
| Kilos | we have a really potent fly here that is a python master | 12:25 |
| GnikLlort | i like node.js irc bots | 12:26 |
| Kilos | we got python bot written by our guys | 12:26 |
| GnikLlort | nice | 12:26 |
| Kilos | Maaz coffee on | 12:26 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 12:26 | |
| GnikLlort | lol | 12:26 |
| Kilos | Maaz rusks please | 12:26 |
| Maaz | behind the calender on top of the fridge, but dont tell everyone Kilos | 12:26 |
| GnikLlort | lol nice | 12:27 |
| Kilos | he can do lotsa things | 12:27 |
| Kilos | coffee is my favourite | 12:27 |
| Kilos | Maaz help | 12:28 |
| Maaz | Kilos: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff. | 12:28 |
| Maaz | Ask me "help me with ..." for more details. | 12:28 |
| GnikLlort | thats cool :) | 12:28 |
| GnikLlort | I never made an irc bot from scratch to | 12:28 |
| GnikLlort | tho* | 12:28 |
| Kilos | i think this one was written to fit in with our way of doing things | 12:29 |
| Kilos | does meeting minutes and everything | 12:29 |
| GnikLlort | ah nice | 12:30 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 12:30 |
| Kilos | oh and weather forecasts | 12:30 |
| Kilos | Maaz ty | 12:30 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 12:30 |
| GnikLlort | cool | 12:31 |
| barrydk | Lekker aand vir almal | 12:47 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 13:32 |
| GnikLlort | :) | 13:33 |
| Kilos | hehe | 13:33 |
| superfly | Kilos: , inetpro: I currently don't have an Internet connection at home (some issue between my router and ADSL), so I don't know if I'll even be at the meeting tomorrow night, nevermind being able to chair it. | 13:48 |
| Kilos | superfly i think pro is chairing, but ty for the feetback | 13:48 |
| superfly | yeah, just letting you know | 13:56 |
| Kilos | ty sir | 13:56 |
| inetpro | uh, good afternoon | 14:29 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro | 14:29 |
| Kilos | you ready to drive the chair | 14:30 |
| inetpro | Kilos: all indications are that I will have trouble with loadshedding again | 14:30 |
| Kilos | inetpro fixit | 14:30 |
| inetpro | yikes! | 14:30 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:30 |
| Kilos | you the master fixer | 14:30 |
| Kilos | just make sure lappy battery is charged | 14:31 |
| Kilos | and whatever else you did last time | 14:31 |
| GnikLlort | load-shedding is a pain in the neck | 14:33 |
| Kilos | yeah | 14:33 |
| GnikLlort | Power went off @ 6pm and back on @ 8pm yesterday :( | 14:37 |
| Kilos | they missed me for some reason but at 8pm but i had already shutdown here and gone to bed | 14:40 |
| Kilos | oh GnikLlort do you want to join us | 14:53 |
| Kilos | ubuntu-za that is | 14:54 |
| Kilos | you got a launchpad id havent you | 14:54 |
| GnikLlort | yea i would | 14:54 |
| GnikLlort | i dont know what a launchpad id is tbh'\ | 14:55 |
| Kilos | i think on this link https://ubuntu-za.org | 14:55 |
| Kilos | ok lemme think | 14:55 |
| GnikLlort | found it | 14:57 |
| GnikLlort | "You have successfully joined South African Ubuntu team." | 15:06 |
| Kilos | cool | 15:06 |
| Kilos | there is some wiki work too | 15:06 |
| Kilos | i think it is also on the site | 15:08 |
| Kilos | where members show | 15:08 |
| GnikLlort | gtg bbl | 15:30 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 17:21 |
| Kilos | so inetpro where is that wiki page hiding where we put our active members please? | 17:27 |
| Kilos | im freezing here | 17:27 |
| GnikLlort | its cold af | 17:27 |
| Kilos | yeah | 17:27 |
| Kilos | inetpro the new wiki page where it says you are mr fixit | 17:28 |
| Kilos | Squirm do you know the link | 17:29 |
| Kilos | sorry GnikLlort i cant find the right link, one of the clever guys will help out | 17:34 |
| GnikLlort | oh | 17:35 |
| Kilos | we made a new wiki page for active peeps | 17:35 |
| Kilos | but who knows where | 17:35 |
| Kilos | mazal waar is dit man | 17:36 |
| Kilos | GnikLlort where are you? im in ptown | 17:36 |
| Kilos | pta | 17:37 |
| GnikLlort | George | 17:37 |
| Kilos | ah we dont have many guys down there | 17:37 |
| Kilos | they all in capeetown | 17:37 |
| Kilos | capetown | 17:38 |
| GnikLlort | My mother is there now :( | 17:38 |
| Kilos | us few tvl peeps are really cold this winter | 17:38 |
| Kilos | ha i think i found it | 17:39 |
| Kilos | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members | 17:39 |
| Kilos | yay | 17:39 |
| Kilos | can you add yourself there please | 17:40 |
| GnikLlort | yea sure | 17:40 |
| Kilos | oh and welcome to the za team | 17:43 |
| Kilos | hi Langjan jan__ | 17:44 |
| Kilos | got you both | 17:44 |
| jan__ | Hi Kilos dint know why the damn thing keeps on with jan, double identity crisis? | 17:45 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:45 |
| Kilos | hoe gaan dit daar | 17:46 |
| Kilos | ek vrek van die koue | 17:46 |
| Kilos | oom Langjan | 17:53 |
| Kilos | jy ok xchat of hexchat ne | 17:54 |
| Kilos | op | 17:54 |
| Langjan | Sorry, ek was op die foon, hoe gaan dit Kilos | 17:54 |
| Kilos | goed dankie en self | 17:54 |
| Langjan | Goed dankie | 17:55 |
| Kilos | soek server-list | 17:55 |
| Langjan | Net moerloos met my Thunderbird | 17:55 |
| Kilos | dan edit by freenode | 17:55 |
| Kilos | iewers het jy jan en langjan ingesit | 17:55 |
| Langjan | Ja ek weet maar hoe om dit reg te maak | 17:56 |
| Kilos | miskien twee keer die server goed ingevil | 17:56 |
| Langjan | Waar is server-list? | 17:56 |
| Kilos | sjoe wag ek boot gou in unity in | 17:56 |
| Langjan | Thks | 17:57 |
| Kilos | you got hexchat or xchat? | 17:59 |
| Langjan | xchat | 17:59 |
| GnikLlort | hexchat is bae | 18:00 |
| Kilos- | lemme install that quick | 18:00 |
| Kilos | i wish you toppies would learn to use kde | 18:01 |
| Kilos | whats bae? | 18:02 |
| GnikLlort | hexchat is 10/10 | 18:03 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | he peoples | 18:03 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | *hey | 18:03 |
| Kilos | tick at the top | 18:03 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | any CT-side adsl people alive? | 18:03 |
| Kilos | xchat - network list | 18:04 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 18:04 |
| GnikLlort | gtg, have to wake up at 4am | 18:04 |
| Langjan | OK | 18:04 |
| Kilos | ok GnikLlort | 18:04 |
| Kilos | sleep warm | 18:04 |
| GnikLlort | ty | 18:04 |
| Kilos- | then freenode should be lit up | 18:05 |
| Kilos- | tick edit | 18:05 |
| Langjan | ok | 18:06 |
| Kilos- | what you see at the top | 18:06 |
| Kilos- | should be one entry | 18:06 |
| Langjan | irc.freenode.net/8001 | 18:06 |
| Kilos- | is that all? | 18:07 |
| Langjan | yes | 18:07 |
| Kilos- | oh my | 18:07 |
| Kilos- | i was hoping you had 2 open | 18:07 |
| Langjan | I closed the one | 18:07 |
| Kilos | i wonder if it isnt just hidden | 18:08 |
| Kilos | because its still active | 18:08 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 18:09 |
| Kilos | it must be remembering it somewhere | 18:10 |
| Kilos | did you tick on the remove button to close it | 18:11 |
| Langjan | Yes I think I did | 18:11 |
| Kilos | oh my goodness | 18:11 |
| Langjan | Was messing around a bit to get rid of it | 18:11 |
| Kilos | you didnt perhaps just delete it | 18:12 |
| Langjan | Dunno, lets forget about it for now, its not a trainsmash | 18:12 |
| Kilos | the remove should have removed it completely | 18:12 |
| Kilos | ok lets go tb | 18:13 |
| Langjan | Yip, thbd is driving me nuts | 18:13 |
| Kilos | whats the prob | 18:13 |
| Langjan | Have been googling around the Mozilla forums | 18:13 |
| Langjan | It keeps on labelling mails as junk | 18:14 |
| Kilos | hi kulelu88 | 18:14 |
| kulelu88 | ola | 18:14 |
| Kilos | are you using pop? | 18:14 |
| Langjan | its set to not do it if they are in my address book, still does it | 18:14 |
| Kilos | ai! | 18:14 |
| Langjan | then real spam is not labelled, its just crazy | 18:15 |
| Langjan | yes pop | 18:15 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:15 |
| Kilos | and from where do your mails come | 18:15 |
| Langjan | all over | 18:15 |
| Kilos | not gmail? | 18:15 |
| Langjan | mostly peeps on my address list | 18:15 |
| Kilos | any specific ones that are junked | 18:15 |
| Langjan | some are gmail also | 18:15 |
| Kilos | what i mean is have you got a gmail account | 18:16 |
| kulelu88 | im mirin tonight brah. no throttle on P2P | 18:16 |
| Kilos | i had to go there a few times to tell gmail certain messages arent junk | 18:17 |
| Langjan | almost everything, I set junk status of an adress to not junk in filters, next time same againl | 18:17 |
| kulelu88 | you need a catchall filter Langjan | 18:17 |
| Kilos | oi oom Langjan wat en hoop inetpro maak dit hier vanaand | 18:17 |
| Langjan | Well I keep telling it and it keeps on ignoring it | 18:17 |
| Kilos | oh kulelu88 will try advise | 18:18 |
| Langjan | catchall filter? | 18:18 |
| Kilos | https://www.siteground.com/tutorials/email/catch_all_email.htm | 18:20 |
| Kilos | ek dink dis daar in | 18:20 |
| Kilos | ek hoop so | 18:21 |
| Kilos | haha hy terug | 18:21 |
| jan__ | Now it has disconnected me and reconnected via jan | 18:22 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:22 |
| Kilos | look in there where we were and see what you have as second choice for your nick | 18:22 |
| jan__ | I know, it's jan__ | 18:23 |
| kulelu88 | gmail is a bit tricky because of what google does on its own. they're big on AI | 18:23 |
| Kilos | change that to langjan_ | 18:23 |
| Kilos | or 0 | 18:23 |
| Kilos | ai! | 18:24 |
| Kilos | - | 18:24 |
| Kilos | hi MaNI | 18:24 |
| Kilos | inetpro where you hiding? | 18:25 |
| MaNI | hi | 18:26 |
| Kilos | hmm... langjan having xchat probs too now | 18:42 |
| Kilos | shame | 18:42 |
| Kilos | wb Langjan | 18:45 |
| Kilos | wat breek jy als man | 18:45 |
| kulelu88 | could be the server. Langjan try another freenode server | 18:45 |
| Langjan | I got lost, then deleted my xchat directory file and started afresh | 18:46 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:46 |
| Kilos | xchat isnt supported anymore | 18:46 |
| Kilos | so most are going to hexchat | 18:46 |
| Langjan | klink te veel na heksery | 18:47 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:47 |
| Langjan | so must I go there? | 18:47 |
| kulelu88 | hexchat is hard to setup on regular ubuntu | 18:47 |
| Kilos | no if its still working keep it | 18:47 |
| Kilos | but jan is gone now | 18:47 |
| Kilos | so something worked | 18:48 |
| kulelu88 | xchat is not unsupported Kilos . it comes as a standard ubuntu package, so it must be supported or at least moonlighted | 18:48 |
| Langjan | yes, god riddance | 18:48 |
| Langjan | good | 18:48 |
| Kilos | it was broadcast its not supported anymore | 18:48 |
| kulelu88 | whoa. just like thunderbird :) | 18:48 |
| kulelu88 | *:( | 18:49 |
| Kilos | ok kulelu88 please help the oom fix TB | 18:49 |
| Langjan | Hi kulelu88 | 18:49 |
| kulelu88 | Hello oupa Langjan . | 18:49 |
| Langjan | lmga | 18:50 |
| Langjan | hi seuntjie | 18:50 |
| kulelu88 | ek het een oom op hier en en oupa | 18:50 |
| kulelu88 | *een oupa | 18:50 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:50 |
| Langjan | Ja, amper oupagrootjie | 18:50 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 18:50 |
| kulelu88 | die oom speel pragtig maar. Het een twee meisies | 18:51 |
| Kilos | my kinders weet nie van kinders maak nie | 18:51 |
| kulelu88 | of moet ek vir hulle se "tante" ? :D | 18:51 |
| mazal | Thunderbird is not supported anymore ? | 18:52 |
| Langjan | Kilos, hoekom leer jy nie jou kinders nie? | 18:52 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:52 |
| Kilos | nee man een pas haar ma op en die ander het te veel girlfriends | 18:52 |
| kulelu88 | mazal: it went into some weird "we don't support it anymore" mode by Mozilla and it was a clusterfuck basically. but the community is supporting it now (afaik) | 18:53 |
| mazal | If that goes down , then what to use. No real other options | 18:53 |
| kulelu88 | there is a nice 1 coming along. it is node-webkit based | 18:53 |
| kulelu88 | comes with built-in encryption | 18:54 |
| mazal | Proper email clients is something that is really lacking | 18:55 |
| kulelu88 | mazal: it's hard work though. | 18:55 |
| kulelu88 | you gotta use a low-level language and UI can be shit | 18:55 |
| Kilos | help the oom fix his TB now guys | 18:56 |
| kulelu88 | is the problem that gmail is not sending emails in the spambox ? | 18:56 |
| Kilos | would the client then still fetch them and mark as junk? | 18:59 |
| Langjan | No kulelu88 the problem is that TB is labelling just about everything as junk except real junk | 19:00 |
| Langjan | It is supposed to be set to not label addresses in my address book as spam but they are all marked as spam no matter how many times I set the filters to not junk | 19:01 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:01 |
| mazal | Maybe reset "training data" might help ? | 19:01 |
| Langjan | dis nie snaaks nie seuntjie | 19:02 |
| Kilos | youve got it installed upside down man | 19:02 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:02 |
| Langjan | Hey that makes sense Kilos | 19:02 |
| Kilos | something is corrupt there | 19:03 |
| mazal | Langjan, did you try that yet ? | 19:03 |
| Kilos | but what | 19:03 |
| kulelu88 | remove your filters and start over. make screenshots if necessary | 19:04 |
| Langjan | Try to reset "td" mazal ? No, how do I do that? | 19:04 |
| mazal | tools - options - security - junk | 19:05 |
| mazal | Under that is a "reset training data" options | 19:05 |
| mazal | That is suppose to wipe it's database of what was marked as spam and start a new one | 19:05 |
| Langjan | Kilos, the mail you just sent me was labelled junk | 19:05 |
| Kilos | oh my | 19:05 |
| Kilos | break something | 19:06 |
| Kilos | none of my mails are junk | 19:06 |
| Langjan | mazal, there is no options under tools | 19:06 |
| mazal | Ag nee , probably cos I am on the Win version here | 19:07 |
| mazal | The options menu should be somewhere there , just in different place | 19:07 |
| Squirm | anyone here proficient in ansible? | 19:07 |
| Squirm | and good eve | 19:07 |
| mazal | Not on my linux version now so can't check :( | 19:07 |
| Langjan | OK I have rteset training data, is that right? | 19:08 |
| mazal | Yep , maybe that will help | 19:09 |
| Langjan | Its under edit, preferences | 19:09 |
| mazal | It is suppose to not have memory of previous spam now | 19:09 |
| mazal | "suppose to" being the key words | 19:10 |
| Langjan | OK so what do I do about the junk filter settings? | 19:10 |
| mazal | There just make sure all adress books are selected to not be filtered | 19:10 |
| mazal | Mine have 3 " collected , collected adresses and personal " | 19:11 |
| mazal | All are selected not to be filtered | 19:11 |
| mazal | Or not to be marked as spam I should say | 19:12 |
| mazal | oom Kilos , the mail you sent to Jan , was it from your private account ? ( gmail ) | 19:13 |
| Kilos | ya mu ubuntu.com | 19:13 |
| Kilos | my | 19:13 |
| mazal | to the list ? | 19:13 |
| mazal | Or direct to LangJan ? | 19:14 |
| Kilos | direct | 19:14 |
| Kilos | but that was before you did this now | 19:14 |
| Kilos | was while he was away | 19:14 |
| mazal | Langjan, after you did that restart your TB and see if the training data wipe helped | 19:15 |
| Langjan | Kilos, please send another mail | 19:15 |
| Kilos | ok | 19:16 |
| Kilos | sent | 19:16 |
| Langjan | Thks, marked as junk again | 19:17 |
| Kilos | oh my | 19:17 |
| mazal | Ag nee | 19:17 |
| mazal | That was the only ideas I had sorry :( | 19:17 |
| Langjan | thks for trying mazal | 19:17 |
| mazal | Kilos, stop sending junk man !! | 19:17 |
| Langjan | ja sê hom | 19:18 |
| Kilos | sorry | 19:18 |
| Kilos | let me try as n gewone mens | 19:18 |
| mazal | Ek gaan duik , vries hierso | 19:19 |
| mazal | Night everyone , sleep well , God bless | 19:19 |
| Kilos | sent | 19:20 |
| Kilos | also junk Langjan ? | 19:22 |
| Langjan | Also junk, drives me crazy | 19:22 |
| Kilos | next one on its way | 19:23 |
| Kilos | trying different mail peeps | 19:23 |
| Kilos | ok last one sent | 19:25 |
| Langjan | OK I think we are making progress, that one was fine, I set filters to mark your mail as not junk Kilos | 19:25 |
| Kilos | which last one | 19:26 |
| Langjan | last 2 were fine | 19:26 |
| Kilos | i sent from ubuntu.co yahoo and 2 gmail accounts | 19:26 |
| Kilos | ill sent another ubuntu,com | 19:26 |
| Langjan | Try the first one again please | 19:27 |
| Kilos | done | 19:27 |
| Langjan | ok that one is also fine now | 19:28 |
| Kilos | we0000t | 19:28 |
| Langjan | Ons hou duimvas | 19:28 |
| Kilos | lyk my jy wen | 19:28 |
| Langjan | Hoop so, hyt nie 'n ma of 'n pa nie, hys 'n masjien - maar kom ons kyk wat gebeur more | 19:29 |
| Langjan | OK nou het ek van jan_ en junk ontslae geraak | 19:30 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:30 |
| Kilos | goeie aand vir jou die | 19:31 |
| Kilos | sommer twee goed in een slag | 19:31 |
| Langjan | baie dankie Kilos, hoop dit word more warmer by julle, hier is dit ook maar koud, vanoggend 7 uur was dit 6 ggrade | 19:32 |
| Kilos | daar was ys by ons | 19:32 |
| Kilos | en vanaand nog kouer | 19:33 |
| Langjan | sjoe, sterkte | 19:33 |
| Kilos | jy is welkom enige tyd | 19:33 |
| Langjan | kom kuier hier op warmbad, as jy nie opwarm nie gooi ons jou in die warm water | 19:33 |
| Kilos | waneer gaan jy begin kde gebruik? | 19:33 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:34 |
| Langjan | wat is kde? | 19:34 |
| Kilos | kubuntu | 19:34 |
| Langjan | nee man, hoekom? alles werk mooi by my | 19:34 |
| Kilos | ek hou baie van dit | 19:34 |
| Squirm | Langjan: a Desktop Environment, like GNOME, XFCE of LXDE | 19:34 |
| Kilos | mazaal het ook oor geskakel | 19:34 |
| Kilos | lol als werk mooi | 19:34 |
| Kilos | ek sal dit onthou | 19:35 |
| Kilos | i can do like fly and pro and say | 19:35 |
| Kilos | is doesnt happen to me i use kde | 19:35 |
| Langjan | Ek hou nie van die k voor nie | 19:35 |
| Langjan | klink te veel na bee | 19:35 |
| Kilos | so wat moet ons doen as jy kunsmatige asemhaling nodig het een dag | 19:36 |
| Langjan | begrawe my | 19:36 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:36 |
| kulelu88 | this must be the only IRC network in the world where afrikaans is spoken | 19:36 |
| Kilos | haha | 19:36 |
| Kilos | yeah most likely | 19:36 |
| Langjan | watse taal praat jy daar kulelu88 ? | 19:36 |
| kulelu88 | altwee | 19:37 |
| Langjan | you speak two tales? | 19:37 |
| Kilos | only language i dont speak is greel | 19:37 |
| kulelu88 | I can speak afrikaans, but my taal is in simple terms "bevok" | 19:37 |
| Kilos | greek | 19:37 |
| Kilos | sjoe we must go sleep now | 19:38 |
| Langjan | Hey kulelu88 thanks for the help | 19:38 |
| Kilos | you youngsters have too much energy | 19:38 |
| kulelu88 | no problemo | 19:38 |
| Langjan | Julle ou manne moet lekker slaap | 19:39 |
| Langjan | ons jonges gaan nog bietjie werk | 19:39 |
| Kilos | lol dankie oompie | 19:39 |
| Kilos | lekker slaap | 19:39 |
| Kilos | night all, sleep tight | 19:39 |
| Langjan | Dankie Kilos jy ook, hoop jy slaap warm | 19:39 |
| Kilos | dankie my vriend | 19:39 |
| Kilos | jy altyd welkom | 19:39 |
| Kilos | vergadering more aand ne | 19:40 |
| Langjan | Baie dankie ek weet, waardeer | 19:40 |
| Kilos | 8.30nm | 19:40 |
| Langjan | Dis net vir die geeks | 19:40 |
| Kilos | nee man | 19:40 |
| Langjan | ons jongmanne het werk om te doen | 19:40 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:40 |
| Kilos | nag | 19:40 |
| Langjan | Jy ook lekker spaal | 19:41 |
| Langjan | slaap | 19:41 |
| superfly | kulelu88: so when are you coming to work for Nomanini? | 20:05 |
| superfly | *sigh* still no Internet at home | 20:06 |
| kulelu88 | I need a compelling offer to come to cape town :D | 20:07 |
| kulelu88 | plus I'm worried I'm not dev material. My coding process is weird :D | 20:07 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: you guys in the cape will have fibre long before we do | 20:08 |
| MaNI | if you buy in the right complex you can already have it :( | 20:11 |
| kulelu88 | but mehh, it's kinda pointless with the offers. "100MB down with a 50GB cap" | 20:12 |
| superfly | we've got fibre at work. just 10 meg though (anything else is way too expensive) | 20:12 |
| superfly | exactly | 20:12 |
| kulelu88 | it's like they already know folks will be HD streaming shit all day | 20:12 |
| superfly | we've got 10Mbps uncapped for 2 grand per month | 20:12 |
| kulelu88 | that's not expensive for a business IMO | 20:12 |
| MaNI | http://develde.sadv.co.za/#!/prods | 20:13 |
| MaNI | that looks pretty good, woner what the FUP is | 20:13 |
| superfly | no, it's actually fairly decent | 20:13 |
| MaNI | I know someone with an apartment there I should get them to sign up and bounce a wireless link my way | 20:13 |
| kulelu88 | i think that's still for copper lines | 20:14 |
| MaNI | its fibre to the complex with wireless to individual places from what I can tell | 20:15 |
| kulelu88 | aah so it's village-wide wifi. | 20:16 |
| kulelu88 | I bet its unsecure, perfect for stealing bank login cookies | 20:16 |
| MaNI | or its fibre with a free wireless hub for your house, I can't actually tell now | 20:17 |
| kulelu88 | MaNI: whats your gig? developer also? | 20:18 |
| MaNI | yeah | 20:18 |
| MaNI | http://www.tshwanedje.com/ | 20:18 |
| kulelu88 | I'm guessing you're the cofounder? David? | 20:21 |
| MaNI | I'm not David :p | 20:22 |
| kulelu88 | You guys must be offering a solid salary for a C++ programmer in 2015 | 20:22 |
| superfly | MaNI: what language you guys use? and how do you make your stuff "cross platform"? | 20:24 |
| MaNI | we are the c++ programmers, not a big company | 20:24 |
| MaNI | superfly, c++ with some other stuff mixed in | 20:25 |
| kulelu88 | what is your LoC for all the products? | 20:25 |
| kulelu88 | couple million? | 20:25 |
| MaNI | we pick our libraries carefully - but in general C++ is pretty portable despite all the FUD by the Java etc. crowd | 20:26 |
| superfly | MaNI: wanna come do embedded c++? :-P | 20:26 |
| superfly | we need more developers | 20:26 |
| MaNI | embedded c++, isn't that just c? :P | 20:27 |
| kulelu88 | hahahaha | 20:27 |
| MaNI | LoC - actually not sure haven't peeked in a while | 20:27 |
| superfly | MaNI: nope, though we do have some of that too | 20:27 |
| MaNI | more developers - we all need those :P | 20:28 |
| kulelu88 | I dunno though. are you guys doing OOP on embedded devices? | 20:28 |
| superfly | kulelu88: yes | 20:28 |
| kulelu88 | that must be painful :/ | 20:28 |
| superfly | actually, it works a WHOLE lot better than not | 20:28 |
| kulelu88 | what kind of hardware is the embedded device using? | 20:29 |
| superfly | ARM | 20:29 |
| MaNI | embedded world has changed a lot | 20:29 |
| MaNI | I imagine a sensible subset of C++ works well | 20:29 |
| kulelu88 | *please say raspberry Pi or something | 20:29 |
| superfly | kulelu88: negative. our own custom hardware. the Pi doesn't have all the bits we need | 20:30 |
| MaNI | the trick to C++ is knowing when not to use all of it | 20:30 |
| superfly | kulelu88: also, we need to be able to do stuff the Pi can't, in hardware terms, like make the batteries last 5 days | 20:30 |
| kulelu88 | there is micropython also, but I don't think that is usable for companies. | 20:30 |
| kulelu88 | is there a solar panel on the device? | 20:31 |
| MaNI | sounds interesting at least | 20:31 |
| superfly | kulelu88: nope | 20:32 |
| kulelu88 | it would probably throw the cost of the device out quite a bit for solar | 20:33 |
| kulelu88 | although I suspect a lot of your users of the device are outside a lot | 20:33 |
| superfly | well, when an overnight charge lasts you 5 days, there's very little reason to use solar charding | 20:35 |
| superfly | *charging | 20:35 |
| superfly | besides, solar charging is not all that good either. takes WAY longer than plugging a usb cable in | 20:35 |
| kulelu88 | True, but if they are in the sun all day, they save on needing to use electricity to charge it at all | 20:35 |
| kulelu88 | there must be some solid electronics guys at nomanini | 20:36 |
| superfly | not all of them are | 20:36 |
| superfly | yes | 20:36 |
| kulelu88 | why aren't you guys doing this in south america also? seems like a decent-sized market there too | 20:36 |
| superfly | well, it's about effort versus returns | 20:37 |
| superfly | Africa is easier for us | 20:37 |
| kulelu88 | still worth investigating. | 20:37 |
| superfly | we've actually recently had to narrow down our focus even more, due to how much we were stretching ourselves thin | 20:37 |
| MaNI | south america is a tough market :p | 20:38 |
| kulelu88 | Licensing model? | 20:38 |
| superfly | we don't sell the devices, per se. we sell the management platform. the devices are obviously paid for, and part of the sell, but that's not where we make our money | 20:38 |
| superfly | "sell" | 20:38 |
| kulelu88 | I think airtime isn't enough. for a device like that, those guys must sell all types of digital prepaid stuff. electricity included | 20:38 |
| superfly | yep, and we have some exciting stuff in the pipeline which will do electricty and other things like that | 20:39 |
| superfly | m-pesa | 20:39 |
| superfly | etc | 20:39 |
| kulelu88 | how do the merchants "see" things? there is no screen | 20:41 |
| MaNI | I wanted to ask that as well | 20:41 |
| kulelu88 | it looks similar to those devices at garages, except those are touch-screen :P | 20:43 |
| superfly | well, there's an info button that tells you some details | 20:43 |
| superfly | and there is a battery indicator on the front too | 20:44 |
| superfly | and it's got a very simple button interface. press a button, press print. out comes voucher | 20:44 |
| superfly | our Mozambique partners find it particularly effective in the rural areas, where there's less need for services like electricity, but more need for airtime | 20:45 |
| superfly | and as I mentioned earlier, we've got some exciting plans in the pipeline for enabling stuff like prepaid water and electricity | 20:46 |
| kulelu88 | but there's 1 problem. Say I have 6 rand and want a 6rand voucher and this device only supports button-based vouchers, I can't buy a R6 voucher | 20:46 |
| superfly | you'd be surprised at what the popular denominations are | 20:47 |
| superfly | in ZA, MTN R5 is the top voucher | 20:48 |
| superfly | followed by MTN R10 | 20:48 |
| superfly | then Vodacom 5, and 10, respectively | 20:48 |
| superfly | we have those buttons, plus 12, 29, etc. | 20:48 |
| superfly | it actually works a lot better than it might seem. | 20:49 |
| kulelu88 | I can think of hundreds of applications for this embedded device, but it needs a cool interface | 20:49 |
| superfly | kulelu88: just like everybody else :-P | 20:49 |
| kulelu88 | and I can't believe you guys manufacture it locally! | 20:49 |
| superfly | yep | 20:49 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: if you need recruits, start coming to Tuks to recruit engineers | 20:50 |
| MaNI | manual labour or construction line? | 20:50 |
| kulelu88 | they teach python ftw!!! | 20:50 |
| superfly | MaNI: bit of both | 20:50 |
| superfly | kulelu88: we already hunt UCT :-) we've got a student who will be joining us at the end of the year | 20:51 |
| kulelu88 | MaNI: looks like they use injection moulding for the plastic and some assembly is done manually | 20:51 |
| kulelu88 | I know Tuks engineers are solid though | 20:51 |
| kulelu88 | like some are insanely intelligent | 20:51 |
| superfly | being cape town based means it's a little difficult to track them down ;-) | 20:52 |
| superfly | but if you know of anyone, please send them on | 20:52 |
| kulelu88 | we can get gremble to recruit them for you | 20:52 |
| superfly | we need to grow our team over the next 18 months, so even if folks can't join *right now*, we're willing to wait for the right people | 20:53 |
| kulelu88 | I'm pretty convinced that if I take nomanini posters to the campus open day and tell them "come do embedded programming in cape town", you will recruit all the PC/electronic engineers | 20:53 |
| superfly | hehe | 20:54 |
| superfly | we also need python and web folks | 20:54 |
| MaNI | surely most of them want to work on flashy touch screen stuff :p | 20:54 |
| superfly | but we do cross-discipline development... everyone does a bit of everything | 20:54 |
| kulelu88 | engineers demand high salaries though | 20:54 |
| superfly | (hence why I wrote the bootloader in assembler) | 20:54 |
| kulelu88 | contract me to recruit for you in PTA superfly :D | 20:55 |
| superfly | kulelu88: I still want to know why you're not sending your CV in | 20:55 |
| kulelu88 | me and MaNI will go show sleepytorians the fantasy of cape town :D | 20:55 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: today I started work at 4pm and they dont mind. that's why :D | 20:56 |
| superfly | heh | 20:56 |
| MaNI | heh, I'm in CT, don't let the company name fool you | 20:56 |
| MaNI | also a good example of why you never put a city in your company name :p | 20:57 |
| kulelu88 | ohhh yeah MaNI is also a capetonian | 20:57 |
| kulelu88 | tshwane must be a nightmare for SEO | 20:57 |
| MaNI | we were originally in pta as the name suggests :/ | 20:57 |
| MaNI | should probably rebrand one day, but most our clients are international so they don't know the difference | 20:58 |
| superfly | alrighty folks, I must put my head on my pillow | 20:58 |
| superfly | kulelu88: send your CV in anyway, you might be pleasantly surprised :-P | 20:58 |
| kulelu88 | yeah MaNI . I was just thinkin what an isolated but lucrative niche you guys have | 21:00 |
| kulelu88 | take care superfly | 21:00 |
| MaNI | not as lucrative as we would hope, but we get by :P | 21:02 |
| MaNI | linguistic people are a strange bunch of customers | 21:03 |
| kulelu88 | you need an artsy person to sell to artsy people | 21:04 |
| MaNI | heh, thats where our eccentric belgian friend comes in :p | 21:06 |
| kulelu88 | I bet you program compilers for fun MaNI | 21:06 |
| MaNI | nah not compilers :p | 21:09 |
| MaNI | not all c++ people are completely insane | 21:11 |
| kulelu88 | I've been contemplating writing one | 21:12 |
| MaNI | I made a little language once back in the day, but that was long ago, I guess if I were to do it now I'd probably piggy back on something like LLVM to do most the work | 21:14 |
| MaNI | spend a lot of time writing lingusitic parsers, which are not that different from compilers at the end of the day, I suppose | 21:15 |
| kulelu88 | that's what I was going to do heh. Use LLVM | 21:16 |
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