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loosebolton	I think I have all the information I need to switch from ubuntu to arch, but I'm still scared to death	00:00
reisio	xjkx: pastebin lsblk -f output and /etc/fstab	00:01
reisio	loosebolton: all you risk is your time	00:01
reisio	which is not valueless, but it is yours	00:01
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formica45	lol	00:31
Loshki	doctorly: 1) install ssh and set it up so that only users with ssh keys can login. 2) Consider running on a non-standard port. 3) check the ssh logs at least daily. 4) tightvnc works well enough if your link isn't too slow. Otherwise, use CLI.	00:38
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coraxx	/msg NickServ identify gnyffeged	00:49
xangua	coraxx: time to change your password and try some numbers	00:50
coraxx	xangua: how do I change pwd ?	00:51
xangua	!pm	00:55
ubottu	Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.	00:55
xangua	!freenode	00:55
ubottu	freenode is the IRC network that you're on! - See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml - freenode has policies that govern how people should use the network which can be read at http://freenode.net/policy.shtml - The Ubuntu channels on freenode also have their own !Guidelines	00:55
yorwos	i am trying to watch a movie on my 2nd monitor, whenever i toggle to full screen the movie pauses and the full screen comes playing on monitor #1 , any ideas ?!	01:07
yorwos	using ubuntu studio 14.04 , kwin over xfce	01:08
coraxx	/msg NickServ identify Gnyffeged1234	01:24
reisio	:D	01:24
ObrienDave	face palms	01:24
skulltip	on ubuntu 15 laptop server, even with the lid cracked using the extension cord, it seems to go to sleep or something. when I open up the lid, i have to do a restart to get the server working again. how can i disable this action so it stays active all the time?	01:25
ablest1980	coraxx you got to change your password now	01:25
coraxx	ablest1980: I'm trying to, but with no luck.	01:26
ablest1980	do /msg nickserv help	01:26
wileee	coraxx, you left a space at the beginning of the command to start with	01:26
reisio	you got to change pw for all the accounts you use that pw for :p	01:27
reisio	coraxx: do it right: https://xkcd.com/936/	01:27
coraxx	wileee: thanx ... that was the mistake. :-)	01:27
coraxx	I'm letting it go ...either I dont have my password ..or something is not working.....but thanx you guys.	01:29
ablest1980	get help @ #freenode	01:29
wileee	coraxx, the freenode channel can ping your email on file	01:29
coraxx	wileee: ok....trying now	01:31
coraxx	wileee: "This operation cannot be performed on coraxx, because someone is logged in to it." damn	01:32
coraxx	wileee: wait... one of my password attempt _DID_ work ..I'm in	01:33
ObrienDave	face palms	01:33
mojtaba	Hi, does anybody know any solution for search within pdf contents? (I have tried pdfgrep, but it is not working very well.)	01:35
Raulwynn	Whatvis a partman 10 error?	01:35
coraxx	ok then ... now here is a harder oen for you guys. In Ubuntu, when I send print to a virtual LPT1 port ...how can I make the "file" read multiple pages ?	01:36
coraxx	*one	01:36
Raulwynn	Im seeing that it is relate to low ram.	01:36
Raulwynn	But i have 6gb ram	01:36
ObrienDave	mojtaba, PDFs are not stored like ASCII text. so without using a PDF viewer, probably not	01:36
mojtaba	ObrienDave: I can search using evince, but I am looking for sth in command line.	01:36
Raulwynn	(Raulwynn) Whatvis a partman 10 error?	01:41
Raulwynn	Clran i.stall error	01:41
Raulwynn	Clean install	01:41
wafflejock	Raulwynn, any changes to the boot/install media you're using from the first install?	01:49
wafflejock	Raulwynn, looks like most people with the problem either had a bad installation media (possibly without enough space) or had to disable dmraid by hitting F6 at the grub menu when using the installation	01:50
Raulwynn	Okay i messed up and tried to install win7 sovthatvI could dualboot with ubuntu since the install was gorkedcearluer with gnome.	01:51
Raulwynn	So that I	01:51
wafflejock	that's alright but after installing Win7 you're getting this error when trying to boot the Ubuntu install then?	01:52
Raulwynn	But withvthe recent update, win 7 is magically incompatable with the compy and now its givingvmy hdd a fuss. Ive tried reformattingvit but bo avail.	01:52
Raulwynn	Yes	01:52
Raulwynn	Thevmedia is good. Im runningvubuntu on a lesser machine withcthe same install uve been using	01:53
Raulwynn	Win7 gas messed this compy up so bad.	01:53
Raulwynn	Has*	01:53
Raulwynn	Strangevthing is even after an hdd nuke its stillvremembering some install info. Maybe a bad hdd?	01:54
Raulwynn	Strange thing*	01:54
Raulwynn	Wow pretent c and v are spaces	01:54
wileee	Raulwynn, Stop, address an actual issue when can help with and stop posting incessantly	01:54
qsub	Raulwynn sounds like you could use a ubuntu live cd	01:55
wafflejock	Raulwynn, it might be that windows flipped some things around in your BIOS or something, typically haven't seen either system really cause hardware damage though	01:55
qsub	and use that repair tool that i forgot the name of	01:55
Raulwynn	I am using a live cd	01:55
qsub	but it sounds like you need to do some work on grub?	01:55
Raulwynn	Yeah	01:56
qsub	Raulwynn see if you can find ubuntu boot-repair	01:56
qsub	and run it from the live cd	01:56
qsub	that might do the trick	01:56
docmur	I have the following Samba configuration: http://pastie.org/10313744, I can see the share when I go to mount the network drive from WIndows but I can't write to it, is there anything wrong with my config?	01:56
Raulwynn	Okay what would be the command to run that? From the live usb	01:57
qsub	Raulwynn if you don't have it installed try "apt-get install boot-repair"	01:57
qsub	press the window key and search for boot-repair	01:57
qsub	if you don't find anything try running apt-get install boot-repair on a terminal	01:57
Raulwynn	Lemme boot live	01:57
Raulwynn	Hols up	01:57
lotuspsychje	docmur: maybe the #samba guys might know?	01:59
Bashing-om	Raulwynn: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair .	01:59
Raulwynn	Im having a hard time installing boot re	02:02
Raulwynn	The live usb wont boot now.	02:02
qsub	Raulwynn did you make sure you set your cd drive to boot first?	02:03
Raulwynn	Yes	02:03
qsub	does it even boots to something at all? what do you get ?	02:04
lotuspsychje	!samba \| docmur anything usefull here?	02:04
ubottu	docmur anything usefull here?: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/windows-networking.html	02:04
qsub	Raulwynn go to your bios and look for UEFI, if it's enabled, try setting it to Legacy Mode	02:06
Raulwynn	Will that change if im runningvlivevfrom a usb?	02:08
qsub	Raulwynn yeah it would need to boot from the USB port your flash drive is in. depending on your BIOS you can see the name of your USB drive	02:09
Raulwynn	Lemme try a dban nuke and seecwhere that gets ne	02:09
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reisio	Raulwynn: what?	02:10
wileee	+1	02:11
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Raulwynn	Then i will install xp as it will be compatible with my hardware then install ubuntu next to that.	02:12
squinty_	Raulwynn, xp is dead no support	02:13
eindoofus	hi, is there a way to use remote desktop connection on windows to interact with a linux machine with the desktop environment active?	02:13
wafflejock	eindoofus, maybe x2go or vnc	02:13
beed	@eindoofus other than a shared vm?	02:13
beed	vnc probably yeah	02:13
qsub	eindoofus vnc	02:13
Raulwynn	I kbow squinty butvthe only other os i have is win7 whish isnt compatable with hardware	02:14
qsub	or X11 but it will be sloooow	02:14
beed	raulwynn so get linux	02:14
Raulwynn	So im installing xp tocfix win7 messup then deleting to install ubuntu	02:14
beed	i don't understand your issue. install ubuntu from a usb, wipe the drive in the process.	02:15
Raulwynn	Beed you don't think ive tried that? Win7 messed my computer up and now i cant boot liveusb	02:16
Raulwynn	.	02:16
eindoofus	sounds like vnc is a good bet. thanks guys	02:16
qsub	Raulwynn how did it mess it up ?	02:16
beed	@raulwynn that doesn't add up. you boot from usb from your bios, not from windows.	02:16
qsub	Raulwynn what error message do you get, if any ? Device not found?	02:17
squinty_	Raulwynn, might want to consider reinstalling Windows then read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI and then reinstall linux (recommended method)\	02:17
Raulwynn	Nothing. It justcsits on the ubuntu screen loading for hours and only started after i tried installing win7	02:17
ObrienDave	sounds like a low-level format of the drive is in order	02:18
beed	@raulwynn are you trying to install from within a windows session?	02:18
beed	or is the install failing after booting into your usb's iso	02:18
qsub	could be a bad iso/usb installation	02:19
beed	^	02:19
beed	that's why i'm asking to clarify where he's trying to install from. keeps talking about windows...	02:19
qsub	http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ is good	02:20
beed	holy crap, they finally changed their site	02:21
beed	good for them	02:21
qsub	the GUI looks like sh*t though :P	02:21
beed	pfft, doesn't everything	02:21
Raulwynn	Im installing from live usb	02:21
beed	that would be why they don't show screenshots :P	02:21
Raulwynn	But live usb wont boot	02:21
qsub	no seriously, it's like this flashy sticky fancy thing	02:22
beed	okay, raulwynn. so that means that you have your computer powered off, you insert your usb, and you boot from your usb drive, right?	02:22
Raulwynn	Plug into other computer boots	02:22
qsub	it's horrible	02:22
qsub	but it works	02:22
Raulwynn	Issue no start until i try install windows	02:22
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beed	@qsub i'm partial to pendrive myself but w/e. @raulwynn ignore windows for a second. boot from the usb drive on your issue workstation and let's go from there.	02:23
beed	you're saying that the installation hangs?	02:23
Raulwynn	I cant boot from usb for the hundredthvtime	02:23
Raulwynn	I cannot bootvfrom usb	02:23
beed	just on the one computer?	02:23
Raulwynn	Yes	02:23
qsub	Raulwynn did you just paste the iso into your usb manually?	02:23
beed	and it works in another?	02:23
Raulwynn	Yes ive said this before	02:24
beed	@raulwynn, try a different usb port on the issue workstation.	02:24
Raulwynn	Done that.	02:24
Raulwynn	Nothing.	02:24
qsub	Raulwynn don't paste it, delete it, and install the iso into your usb drive using the software from these guys: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/	02:24
* wileee looks down the well of helpers and waves at those whom wasted there time with this user		02:24
beed	@qsub he says that it "works" on another workstation so	02:24
beed	don't think that's the problem	02:24
Raulwynn	The usb isnt the issue	02:24
Raulwynn	Ive said that before too	02:25
zack_	Umm... hey?	02:25
beed	ummm hi	02:25
Raulwynn	I give up im just getting irritated im getting off for now.	02:25
zack_	Hey, I'm testing Linux Ubuntu Mate for the first time :D	02:26
beed	@raul if it works on one computer, and not on another	02:26
zack_	Well cya	02:26
qsub	well i had a problem before where my stuff wouldn't boot up because i was using UEFI mode, and had to change to legacy mode to get stuff working. so like hardware related	02:26
beed	the issue is within that one computer. my guess would be the port/connection is bad, or your bios is fucked	02:26
beed	@qsub he said his problem workstation is win7, so unless he downgraded from 8 in some weird manner then that's not the issue	02:27
Raulwynn	Okay nowvim getting somewhere.	02:27
Raulwynn	I have	02:27
Raulwynn	I had 8.1	02:27
Raulwynn	Then an updat cameva week ago	02:27
beed	when you downgraded, did you wipe it completely and then install 7, or just do some weird win8-to-7 downgrade thing?	02:27
Raulwynn	I hate this keyboard. Killed my compy	02:27
beed	keyboards don't kill computers. ID10T errors do.	02:27
lotuspsychje	lol	02:27
Raulwynn	Then reinstalled win7 and kept bsod	02:27
qsub	beed it's windows dude you gotta go shotgun style ...	02:28
beed	take the tower, chuck it out the window. buy a new computer and have a competent person set it up for you.	02:28
Raulwynn	Its notcan id10t error bro	02:28
Raulwynn	Okay qusb, you know what youre doing.	02:28
beed	PEBKAC, then ;)	02:29
beed	he already told you what you need to do. disable UEFI and boot in legacy mode.	02:29
Raulwynn	What ere you saying about uefi mode?	02:29
TypoNAM	I upgraded a VM from 10.04 to 12.04 to 14.04. I've ran into a problem where gcc generates this error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s and google searching has failed to provide a solution. :/	02:29
qsub	that might work.	02:29
qsub	Raulwynn in your BIOS	02:29
lotuspsychje	!uefi \| Raulwynn	02:29
ubottu	Raulwynn: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI	02:29
qsub	look for anything in there that says UEFI	02:29
squinty_	beed, might want to give the channel rules a read before a mod comes along.... this is a family channel, no swearing, curteous behaviour etc. thanks	02:30
beed	sure thing.	02:30
Raulwynn	Okay after an hour, i finally get help from someone who knows something. Beed please quit talking to me.	02:31
beed	@typoNAM that means ld is unable to find the lgcc library. can you run ld -lgcc_s --help?	02:31
beed	oops, ld -lgcc_s --verbose*	02:32
TypoNAM	beed: http://pastebin.com/m2CMFVZy	02:33
beed	is your VM running 14.04 32-bit or 64-bit	02:34
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wileee	Raulwynn, There have been lines of top helpers here, you just are not able to realize this, when they helped are now days later.	02:35
wileee	or*	02:35
wileee	any one smart will not touch you at this point	02:36
beed	hahahah has he been in here for that long?	02:36
TypoNAM	beed: 64-bit	02:36
beed	can you pastebin me the output of "find / -name "libgcc_s.so*"?	02:37
beed	you might need to run that as sudo	02:37
Raulwynn	Whatever.	02:38
TypoNAM	beed: http://pastebin.com/jx4b4ij7	02:38
Raulwynn	My issue is simple. Win7 messed a setting up and i needed to reset ufei now it works.	02:39
Raulwynn	Two hours for a simple fix.	02:39
qsub	Raulwynn so Legacy mode did it ?	02:40
qsub	or was it already in legacy mode ...	02:40
Raulwynn	Yes. Thank you qsub	02:40
Raulwynn	No it wasnt	02:40
beed	@typoNAM what path is your compiler expecting libgcc_s to live in	02:40
qsub	cool Raulwynn, now you will remember this in the future :)	02:40
Raulwynn	Thats all i needed and you actually paid attention to what i was saying.	02:41
Raulwynn	Thanks, have a good night.	02:41
qsub	yw	02:41
wileee	funny 3 days to get someone to listen, does even make sense	02:42
wileee	not*	02:42
lotuspsychje	lol	02:42
qsub	this can be confusing if you never messed with this stuff before.	02:42
wileee	qsub, look at the logs bro	02:42
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qsub	when i tried to install debian years ago it took me like a week	02:43
TypoNAM	beed: I don't know, how do I find out?	02:43
beed	oh, never mind that nam, you already gave me that output (the first pastebin you linked). give me a moment.	02:43
TypoNAM	note that it isn't a per project thing, it is happening to everything from simple compile a tiny main.c test to ./configure scripts on multiple open source projects outright failing. Meaning all gcc linking processes fail because of this one error	02:44
beed	well, the reason for that is that your compiler isn't able to find the library	02:45
beed	i've seen this happen to a bad symlink before	02:45
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beed	run $ ll -l /lib/libgcc_s.so.1	02:46
beed	is that pointing correctly to /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.8/libgcc_s.so?	02:47
wiltors42	Hi, I have a problem. I added kali linux repos and installed kali tools and now ubuntu thinks it's kali linux and it's causing system problems and x keeps freezing	02:47
wiltors42	Any way to revert ubuntu back into thinking it's ubuntu	02:47
adlid	reinstall?	02:47
beed	oops nam, habit made me type "ll" - an alias on my machine. if you ran into an error run ls with the same options.	02:48
wiltors42	that's one option	02:48
adlid	What do you mean by Ubuntu think it's Kali?	02:48
wiltors42	in unity, on my top bar it says Kali GNU/Linux instead of Ubuntu	02:49
TypoNAM	beed: negative, it's an actual file in that location	02:49
adlid	So do you want Ubuntu with Kali Tools?	02:51
adlid	Or just Ubuntu?	02:51
wiltors42	I want ubuntu with kali tools, i'm assuming the reason ubuntu is having internal problems is because it thinks that it is kali	02:52
wiltors42	So I'm trying to restore ubuntu back into thinking it's ubuntu with kali repos	02:53
ObrienDave	wiltors42, it does not work that way LOL	02:53
wiltors42	ok, then can i revert back without uninstalling the kali tools?	02:53
wileee	isn't kali debian?	02:53
adlid	Yes	02:53
adlid	Debian Repos	02:54
lotuspsychje	WildSoft: why not just install the packages manually?	02:54
wiltors42	it says Kali GNU/Linux Desktop	02:54
beed	@typoNAM try running $: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.8/libgcc_s.so /usr/lib32/libgcc_s.so.1	02:54
wiltors42	I wouldn't mind except that it gives me alerts every time I power up	02:54
adlid	i'm so confused, -.-	02:55
beed	@wiltors what errors specifically?	02:55
wiltors42	Internal Probem Detected dialog box	02:56
wiltors42	Problem*	02:56
beed	...did you add the kali repositories to your sources.list, or replace what you had there?	02:56
wileee	wiltors42, None of what you've described is supported here, you have to use the ubuntu repos for support, unless there is no other option.	02:56
beed	@wiltors do $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list	02:56
beed	are the only lines there the kali-linux repos?	02:57
wiltors42	ok	02:57
qsub	wileee i suppose you could try apt-get clean all	02:58
wileee	qsub, Why would I do that?	02:58
beed	he meant wiltors.	02:58
qsub	yep :P	02:59
wileee	If you don't know do not answer, if it is not in support do not answer	02:59
adlid	easy killer	02:59
wiltors42	yes eveyrthing is still there	03:00
wileee	this isn't #ubuntu-fix-dumb-ideas-not-in-support	03:00
beed	okay, so uninstall the packages you installed from kali's repos.	03:00
wiltors42	I added the kali repos after all the ubuntu repos	03:00
qsub	wiltors42 i'm sure debian repos have a good chunk of that stuff ...	03:02
easyOnMe	hello	03:03
easyOnMe	anyone here know and downloadable javascript obfuscator meant for linux platform or more specifically for ubuntu	03:04
easyOnMe	anyone here knows any downloadable javascript obfuscator meant for linux platform or more specifically for ubuntu	03:04
lotuspsychje	easyOnMe: have you tryed software centre	03:05
easyOnMe	I did but mostly the ones I got are all .exe files	03:05
easyOnMe	meaning they only run on windows	03:05
qsub	easyOnMe apt-get -y install yui-compressor	03:06
easyOnMe	qsub: have you used it before and is it that good at obfuscating or only compressing and minifying	03:06
lotuspsychje	easyOnMe: apt-cache search obfuscator shows a few	03:06
easyOnMe	lotuspsychje: ok let me try	03:07
qsub	easyOnMe http://stackoverflow.com/questions/194397/how-can-i-obfuscateprotect-javascript	03:07
easyOnMe	lotuspsychje: thanks but those apps are not meant for javascript	03:08
easyOnMe	qsub: after install YUI compressor does it come with a gui of its own	03:09
qsub	easyOnMe probably not http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/yui-compressor.1.html	03:10
easyOnMe	qsub: you are cool man	03:11
qsub	i try :)	03:11
easyOnMe	you really are cool thanks for the guidance short, quick and to the point	03:11
qsub	yw	03:12
lotuspsychje	!cookie \| qsub	03:13
ubottu	qsub: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!	03:13
qsub	\o/	03:14
ObrienDave	give him 2 ;P	03:14
TypoNAM	can anybody explain to be how the hell did this happen after upgrading 10.04 -> 12.04 -> 14.04: http://pastebin.com/wbKqAXJR And yet on packages.ubuntu.com it does exist at all. Note that I've never installed gcc 5, gcc-5-base only shows up during the 14.04 package upgrades according to the upgrade log.	03:18
wileee	TypoNAM, Any PPA's 3rd pary repos?	03:20
ObrienDave	ummmm, it's needed to compile on-the-fly some of the ubuntu packages?	03:21
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momo_	oyoy	03:23
momo_	is me froga	03:23
easyOnMe	qsub: man is yui compressor for real I type this command in the terminal yui-compressor /var/www/html/ci_project/html_back_26072015/assets/fmoaujc/mainMinOb.js \| touch /var/www/html/ci_project/html_back_26072015/assets/fmoaujc/try.js	03:23
momo_	thanks Quantos	03:23
easyOnMe	and when I opened try.txt there is nothing in the file	03:24
Quantos	No problem momo_ These guys should be able to figure out what you mean	03:24
momo_	Allright hi everyone am having a hard time because i somehow clicked on a file with a key on my personal folder on ubuntu 14.04 , where i typed in my password , thereupon all my files in the personal folder disappeared	03:26
TypoNAM	wileee: yeah looks like I got screwed by http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-toolchain-r/test/ubuntu and now I can't undo it because of them. great...	03:26
easyOnMe	qsub: I got it to work but it only compressed and not obfuscation done	03:26
momo_	aswell as on the desktop , and mozzilla settings ..... i have no clue what i have done	03:26
momo_	may someone offer me his assistance on a private chat	03:26
xangua	!pm	03:27
ubottu	Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.	03:27
easyOnMe	how come my yui-compressor never obfuscated by code but only compressed it into a single line	03:27
momo_	am having a hard time because i somehow clicked on a file with a key on my personal folder on ubuntu 14.04 , where i typed in my password , thereupon all my files in the personal folder disappeared	03:30
yorwos	kies22i am trying to watch a movie on monitor #2 , but when i maximize it it comes on monitor #1 , how to send to monitor #2 ?	03:35
ObrienDave	dont use full screen? ;P	03:39
momo_	Heeeelp me	03:44
xangua	!ask \| momo_	03:45
ubottu	momo_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience	03:45
momo_	HEEEEEEELP i clicked on a file on my personal folder which had a key on it ,it literally looked like a key the file i typed in my password and then all my files disappeared in the personal folder , aswell as my firefox settings tabs etc.............	03:46
gry	what was the file name?	03:47
momo_	gry i dont remember	03:47
momo_	it either said unlock personal folder or lock personal folder i think	03:47
momo_	when i installed ubuntu i set that it would encrypt my personal folder	03:48
pritam	I need a project to do .anyone interested ?	03:50
momo_	gry i forgot to mention that window popped up mentioning ecrypt and how the password is generated	03:52
ziggyfish	I am trying to get vsftpd working. I installed the package on a clean install (i.e no config changes as yet). and I get the following error: 500 OOPS: prctl PR_SET_SECCOMP failed	03:55
ziggyfish	I tried seccomp_sandbox=no, however I can't seem to login with local users	03:56
ziggyfish	can anyone help me?	03:57
momo_	alkaloid help me	04:01
momo_	:(	04:02
ziggyfish	momo_, what do you need?	04:03
rehboot	Hi	04:04
ziggyfish	hi	04:04
rehboot	just lurking out of boredness	04:04
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momo_	ziggyfish i clicked on a file with a key on my personal folder on ubuntu 14.04 , i typed in my password and afterwards all my files in the personal folder disappeared , later a window popped up mentioning ecrypt and how i could generate a password	04:05
ziggyfish	momo_, backup?	04:06
momo_	i have none i freshly installed ubuntu so i could actually store my files safely	04:06
momo_	not only did those files disappear firefox also lost all the settings i have set on it including bookmarks and addons	04:07
momo_	aswell the files ihad on the desktop	04:07
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* ObrienDave bites fingers to avoid getting kicked/banned		04:17
chandler____	what is the non-support ubuntu IRC channel	04:23
kokut	ObrienDave: ?	04:23
kokut	chandler____: ubuntu-offtopic	04:23
chandler____	kobut thank you	04:23
ObrienDave	chandler____, #ubuntu-offtopic	04:23
dinoocch	This may be an odd question, but we have an ubuntu based lab, when we added kerberos and pam_mount, login (local and krb users) hangs for an extended time with just a black screen with a mouse from lightdm or a motd from a tty. However, this only happens on 3 of ~40 machines...any ideas on where to look further?	04:26
dinoocch	auth log confirms that the users have authenticated, and nothing much seems amiss -.-	04:26
easyOnMe	hey fellas	04:28
easyOnMe	how do I access my ubuntu 14.04 LS from my office	04:28
easyOnMe	that uses Windows 7	04:28
easyOnMe	I know I can use putty for ssh	04:28
easyOnMe	but about the ipaddress how to I know which one to use	04:29
druizubuntu1	how can i intall skype in ubuntu studio?	04:29
Hongo	Im not a pro but just download the .deb in the page, or search for it in the repos :o	04:30
easyOnMe	http://apaste.info/eHD	04:30
easyOnMe	qsub: http://apaste.info/eHD	04:30
easyOnMe	how do I access my ubuntu 14.04 LS from my office	04:30
HolyKnight	momo_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory	04:30
easyOnMe	that uses Windows 7	04:30
Bashing-om	Rurd2di: ' apt -get update ; apt-get upgrade ' apt-get install skype ' (14.04 +)	04:31
easyOnMe	I know I can use putty for ssh	04:31
xangua	druizubuntu1: enable partner repository and run sudo apt-get install && apt-get install skype	04:31
easyOnMe	but about the ipaddress how to I know which one to use	04:31
xangua	!partner	04:31
ubottu	Canonical's partner repositories provide a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" »	04:31
qsub	easyOnMe you need to set up OpenSSH on your ubuntu machine	04:33
qsub	then you need to open port 22 on your firewall	04:33
qsub	then you need to start running sshd	04:33
easyOnMe	qsub: by openSSH you mean the openSSH server	04:34
easyOnMe	I already did that	04:34
qsub	easyOnMe did you open port 22 on your router?	04:34
qsub	easyOnMe try ufw allow 22 as root	04:36
easyOnMe	qsub: then what's next	04:36
qsub	easyOnMe after that do service restart sshd	04:36
easyOnMe	ok after that what's next	04:37
qsub	easyOnMe go to www.myipaddress.com , get your ip in there and try to ssh\	04:37
qsub	ssh yourusername@yourip	04:37
qsub	in putty	04:37
easyOnMe	qsub: ok one more thing though this approach of ours - I have tried it before but only using my Windows 7 office laptop at home... I manage to access by ubuntu 14.04 ls at home - does this principle apply if I use the Windows 7 office laptop but this time using our office network	04:38
qsub	as long as your ubuntu machine is running, port 22 is open, and the sshd daemon is enabled, you should be able to connect to it from anywhere	04:39
gry	momo_: hi.	04:39
easyOnMe	qsub: oh ok	04:40
qsub	:P	04:40
gry	momo_: can you type ``mount'' in a terminal and put the output to paste.ubuntu.com ?	04:40
easyOnMe	so what is important of course is to make sure my laptop at home is left switched on	04:40
qsub	pretty much	04:40
easyOnMe	then wherever and whenever I can access my laptop	04:40
momo_	gry i will	04:40
easyOnMe	well of course the internet at home switched on too	04:40
qsub	yep	04:40
qsub	and your config is right	04:40
Toph	qsub,,, if your machine at home is in suspend mode, can you remotely awaken it?	04:41
momo_	gry http://paste.ubuntu.com/11946756/	04:41
qsub	Toph i'm not sure if you can still ssh to it, if you could than maybe yes	04:41
Toph	ok	04:41
qsub	Toph but if you have a lan house setup(more than 1 machine connected to the same address) you could use another machine to wake it up	04:42
gry	momo_: ls -la /home/sasa/.Private/	04:42
momo_	gry am not sure what you mean do you want me to type that into the terminal	04:44
gry	Yes.	04:44
gry	To clarify: it lists files in that directory.	04:45
momo_	gry http://paste.ubuntu.com/11946774/	04:46
gry	momo_: ls -la /home/sasa/Private (if that directory exists)	04:47
momo_	gry it says that this file or directory does not exist the last paste i have sent had blue and red lines that were not copied into the paste	04:49
qsub	easyOnMe make sure you have a strong root password because chinese bots might try to brute force it	04:51
gry	momo_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome has more details. I would try to log out and log in again.	04:51
momo_	gry tried to login and logout allready	04:51
easyOnMe	qsub: ok that is a good advice	04:52
easyOnMe	but related to that how do I know that right now my ubuntu laptop is not compromised by these chinese hackers	04:52
easyOnMe	using their bots	04:52
momo_	gry do you think that those files are lost ? if they r just hidden right now	04:52
momo_	i could calm down a little	04:53
gry	momo_: try "ecryptfs-mount-private" command in terminal	04:53
qsub	easyOnMe pretty much once you open that SSH port and start listening to it attacks will happens. that's just normal internert shenanigans	04:53
qsub	easyOnMe people have these chinese bots constantly scanning for vulnerable machines to infect......	04:53
easyOnMe	qsub: so how do I protect myself	04:54
cfhowlett	much more likely to be hacked by your government than anyone else	04:54
qsub	easyOnMe there's "advanced ways" to stop it if you don't like the concept of having 5000 intrusion attempts a day	04:54
qsub	easyOnMe 1. Disable password authentication and use only "Public Keys"	04:54
easyOnMe	qsub: how	04:54
easyOnMe	can I learn that	04:54
qsub	2. Use a different port	04:54
qsub	3. Disable root login at /etc/ssh/sshd_config	04:55
momo_	gry no such directory	04:55
qsub	where it says PermitRootLogin yes change it to PermitRootLogin no	04:55
qsub	save and restart sshd	04:55
qsub	you might want to google the key authentication stuff	04:55
qsub	but as long as you have a good root password you will be just fine	04:56
SuperLag	Doing an ls in /home, I see all the users' directories. They're all colored blue. One of them is highlighted in green. What does that mean?	04:56
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naftilos76	Hi, i have created (or think so) a tmpfs for /tmp and /var/log in fstab for protecting my SSD. How do i confirm that these paths are indeed ram spaces instead of hard disk spaces?	04:58
dinoocch	Perhaps phrased differently, what is the best way to trace a login issue?	04:59
naftilos76	Is there a command to confirm that these paths are handled by tmpfs?	04:59
reisio	so you're going to work your ram harder instead of your ssd?	04:59
reisio	'mount'	04:59
naftilos76	reisio, yes that is correct but i already new the answer to my question "df -h"	05:01
naftilos76	that would list all fs	05:01
reisio	why ask a question you know the answer to	05:02
naftilos76	reisio, i just realized man	05:03
ObrienDave	just to see who's paying attention	05:03
naftilos76	ObrienDave, correct :-)	05:03
ObrienDave	+1	05:04
naftilos76	got me there...	05:04
reisio	:p	05:05
gry	momo_: okay. I am sorry for the delay. I don't know how to encrypt home directory or how it works, but if you ask the question in full (saying that you were encrypting your home directory, and that it's empty), then someone else may be able to help you.	05:12
gry	momo_: (Include a list of files in ~/.Private while you do so.)	05:12
slawomir	google	05:15
reisio	slawomir: who can argue with that	05:16
_brk_k	gud mornin folks. I have a laptop which is runing ubuntu 14.04 and my brother has windows 8.1 on his pc, now I am trying to establisha blutooth connection between the two. all is almost fine, I can send and receive files on both machines, but I am not able to access the shared folders on any of these machines, plus I am looking for a way to send an	05:24
_brk_k	d recieve messages between the two machines.	05:24
_brk_k	how can I do that?	05:24
_brk_k	a kind of bluechat??	05:25
reisio	_brk_k: xmpp client	05:25
_brk_k	that needs internet??	05:26
_brk_k	reisio : does that need Internet access?	05:27
reisio	nope	05:27
reisio	nothing really needs internet access	05:27
reisio	if you could connect to this IRC network directly, you wouldn't need internet access to use it	05:28
reisio	the internet is just a very large network	05:28
reisio	a very large, convenient network	05:28
_brk_k	ok, I see. but can you please tell me how to get this xmpp running on these two machines, cause there seems to be no actual network between them	05:29
_brk_k	no tcp ip i mean	05:29
_brk_k	or at least it seems that way to me	05:30
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Smilerut	is there any way to have a setup without a DE that still looks nice	05:49
Smilerut	every time someone shows me one it's boring as hell	05:49
gry	depends on how you define 'looks nice'	05:50
pratik	Hi, I am running a command from one machine on another machine using ssh.	05:50
pratik	ssh <host> a.pl	05:50
pratik	Now, a.pl starts several other instances of a.pl using the 'system' method and executing each of them in the background. I have this integrated with LDAP and when one of the instances dies, the main a.pl script comes to know about this as it continuously keeps on monitoring them. I would expect ssh to exit when this main script dies. But, somehow it seems that ssh keeps on waiting on all the processes that were launched. ssh exits wh	05:50
pratik	Why is this so??	05:50
ObrienDave	Smilerut, no, you get either command line only or GUI	05:50
Smilerut	ObrienDave: GUI feels a tad too bloated, is there anything I can do about that	05:50
ObrienDave	Smilerut, you can get themes to suit your "tastes"	05:51
gry	Smilerut, type 'ubuntu' into a web images search engine. I have some taste but I am sure it is not the same as yours.	05:51
ObrienDave	Smilerut, yea, don't install so much garbage on your desktop ;P	05:51
Smilerut	ObrienDave: no I mean uh	05:51
Smilerut	this is what I have now http://imgur.com/LQDJ3XW	05:51
Smilerut	this looks a bit too...well, filled with stuff	05:52
ObrienDave	ROFL dont open so many windows. use a DE with multiple workspaces. like xfce	05:53
Smilerut	ObrienDave: I have multiple workspaces	05:53
Smilerut	but I don't want that	05:53
ObrienDave	can't help ya then	05:53
Smilerut	I want multiple workspaces AND a multiple window setup	05:53
Smilerut	like, I'd have each workspace filled with 3 or maybe 4 windows	05:53
Smilerut	like a tiling wm without the tiling wm	05:53
ObrienDave	face palms and walks away	05:54
gry	Smilerut, I am looking at http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Common_Desktop_Environment (randomly) and it is in categories 'desktop enhancement' and 'x' linked at the right bottom. Unfortunately there is no 'desktop environment' category yet but you could try clicking and browsing these two.	05:55
Smilerut	alright thanks	05:55
gry	Smilerut, looking up 'desktop environment' in the Ubuntu Software center should also work.	05:55
Smilerut	yeah I've looked through some DEs	05:56
Smilerut	I have a handful installed	05:56
gry	GNUstep could be a nice thing to try, if you're up to learning objc and doing something that you feel is missing.	05:57
pratik	Hi, can anyone comment on the problem I have mentioned above?	05:57
gry	pratik: hi, message got cut off at "ssh exits wh".	05:58
santosh_	hi	05:58
santosh_	expert anybody can tell me... how ubuntu provides support for openstack release..	05:59
santosh_	means . after how much time ubuntu provides support for openstack release///	05:59
pratik	gry: I am pasting the message again	06:00
santosh_	gap between openstack release and ubuntu release for that openstack release..	06:00
pratik	ssh <host> a.pl	06:01
somsip	santosh_: packages are supported for as long as that version of ubuntu is supported	06:01
pratik	Now, a.pl starts several other instances of a.pl using the 'system' method and executing each of them in the background. I have this integrated with LDAP and when one of the instances dies, the main a.pl script comes to know about this as it continuously keeps on monitoring them. I would expect ssh to exit when this main script dies. But, somehow it seems that ssh keeps on waiting on all the processes that were launched. ssh exits wh	06:01
pratik	Why is this so?	06:01
santosh_	somsip: thanks for your response... just have specific question that.. suppose today liberty is release .. when my ubuntu relaese will come to support fetaure for liberty	06:02
pratik	gry: to elaborate further, on killing one of the a.pl instances, the main a.pl script exits, and remaiining a.pl instances get owned by init (1)	06:03
somsip	santosh_: what is liberty?	06:03
santosh_	openstack release	06:03
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somsip	santosh_: and what is your version of ubuntu?	06:03
santosh_	somsip: I am sorry i think i am not putting my question correctly..	06:04
easyOnMe	how do I know whehter my ubuntu laptop is compromised	06:04
santosh_	somsip: my query is what is the time gap between a openstack release and ubuntu release...supporting that specific openstack release..	06:05
ObrienDave	santosh_, ubuntu's primary goal is stability of the OS. very RARELY will you get the newest software in the offical repos	06:06
somsip	santosh_: depends whether the new release is a major or minor release. IIRC major releases will never be included in an existing release of ubuntu, minor releases will be included in non-LTS but not in LTS, and only bug/security fixes included in LTS	06:06
santosh_	do i need to pay for ubuntu LTS release ?	06:08
cfhowlett	santosh_, no	06:08
ObrienDave	no	06:08
ObrienDave	santosh_, 14.04 is the latest LTS	06:08
santosh_	do i need to pay for ubuntu server which is LTS ?	06:08
ObrienDave	no	06:09
ObrienDave	you don't need to pay for ANY open source Ubuntu version	06:09
santosh_	thanks guys for your explanation :)	06:09
cfhowlett	santosh_, you don't need to pay for ubuntu support, but if the volunteer and public support is insufficient, you can consider paying for dedicated support from Canonical	06:09
santosh_	Ubuntu can be used clearly for openstack production deployment right ? and which is free also..	06:10
ObrienDave	don't see why not	06:11
lala	Ubuntu is Linux.	06:13
lala	Not Unix.	06:13
santosh_	my last query - Suppose today i am working on ubuntu 14.04 LTS server for openstack, and suppose a new release for openstack comes with one specifc feature "ABC".... how will i ensure that this "ABC"	06:13
somsip	lala: no. Ubuntu uses the linux kernel.	06:13
lala	Good.	06:13
santosh_	comes to my existing deployment ?	06:13
* ObrienDave knows nothing about openstack		06:14
wileee	santosh_, By being skilled enough to use it, if not in the release.	06:15
santosh_	means ubutu will give that OS specific support ?	06:15
cfhowlett	santosh_, OS? ubuntu IS the OS.	06:16
santosh_	cfhowlett: yes Ubuntu is OS...	06:16
santosh_	cfhowlett: Means when ubuntu will provide its support for "ABC" feature of openstack..	06:17
wileee	santosh_, Support is on OS's not EOL OS's and packages from the Ubuntu repos	06:18
cfhowlett	santosh_, new features are sometimes backported to earlier *buntus. if it's a feature you just can't live without and it's NOT backported, you can upgrade to a new version of ubuntu. #openstack seems to be rolled into ubuntu fairly rapidly but NOT instantly.	06:18
santosh_	cfhowlett: great !! so thats my query when this will be backported ...means time frame ?	06:18
cfhowlett	santosh_, when the package maintainers do it ...	06:19
santosh_	cfhowlett: Approximately after how much time..	06:19
cfhowlett	santosh_, you'd have to ask openstack. it's their project, not ubuntu's.	06:20
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easyOnMe	cfhowlett: how do I know whether my ubuntu laptop is compromised by chinese bots	06:20
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easyOnMe	cfhowlett: my laptop starts to get slower these days	06:21
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somsip	easyOnMe: just '/ignore hayyou'	06:24
cfhowlett	easyOnMe, fresh install + firewall enabled + ad/pop-up blocker + stay away from funky websites will solve most of your issues.	06:24
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easyOnMe	somsip: how to type the command of ignoring hayyou	06:24
hayyou	! ( " [ % " K X $ d r t v : X u p $ Q U J \ v M @ U F K y U V H I } P r u {	06:24
ubottu	hayyou: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	06:24
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somsip	easyOnMe: just told you	06:24
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cfhowlett	on hexchat, right click on nick and then ignore. it works.	06:24
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easyOnMe	somsip: like this you mean !ignore hayyou	06:25
hayyou	yep it's my question again	06:25
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somsip	easyOnMe: don't nother asking me again as you're ignored too	06:25
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lasers	!ops	06:25
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pack^	or /ignore SkyBaby all	06:26
Diittosword	Do /ignore !@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe6e:ed1a	06:26
phatlynx	phatlynx	06:26
easyOnMe	pack^: but it keeps on saying this: !- Unknown Command: ignore	06:26
pack^	easyOnMe: what kind of chat client are you using?	06:27
Diittosword	smuxi	06:27
phatlynx	phatlynx: me	06:27
easyOnMe	ubuntu@freenode(IRC)-Smuxi	06:27
phatlynx	phatlynx	06:28
santosh_	Thanks	06:30
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mobile3	any Ubuntu 14.04 VPS user here ?	06:31
Diittosword	me	06:32
mobile3	Diittosword : have you used Webuzo control panel ?	06:34
Diittosword	mobile3: nope	06:34
mobile3	Can you help me in configuring 4 IP ?	06:34
ObrienDave	dang, and i missed all the excitement ;P	06:34
Diittosword	mobile3: sorry busy	06:35
cq-aux	hi,	06:35
mobile3	Diittosword: hmmm	06:35
cq-aux	how do I "completely" shutdown networking (avahi-daemon,wpa_supplicant) (avahi respawns instantly) so I can successfully change completely my mac address (ofc temporarily that's fine)	06:36
cq-aux	(I mention avahi-daemon and wpa_supplicant because I was warned about them when starting airmon-ng on wlan0)	06:37
pack^	using kali linux?	06:38
cq-aux	I just can't find the answers on the web,.. "lol@pack >> v. good answer"	06:38
ubuntu-mate	hi	06:38
cq-aux	heya	06:39
xangua	pack^: not supported here	06:39
pack^	xangua: don't tell me. Tell him.	06:39
cfhowlett	cq-aux, kali is in no way, shape or form supported in this channel. sorry.	06:39
cfhowlett	!kali \| cq-aux	06:39
ubottu	cq-aux: Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)	06:39
cq-aux	I was told about macchanger, and ip link set dev, and ifconfig <interface> down && ifconfig <interface> hw ether <new mac> ,, and these worked at first but then stopped working for some reason that I 'have no idea about'	06:40
cfhowlett	cq-aux, dude. stop. no kali support here. go to the proper resources as shown in the link.	06:41
cq-aux	no I'm on ubuntu, with network-manager, avahi-daemon etc	06:41
cq-aux	this is not about kalilinux this is about ubuntu	06:42
cq-aux	ok. I've found (another!) possible solution,.. I'll go and try it	06:45
* stareyes is back (gone 08:05:44)		06:47
ObrienDave	stareyes, get rid of the join/away messages of face the ire of the OPS	06:49
ObrienDave	*or face	06:49
easyOnMe	cfhowlett: noted with thanks	06:50
cfhowlett	easyOnMe, happy2help!	06:51
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opoio	i'm trying to install skype, but am getting the following problem: http://paste.debian.net/286433/	06:57
wileee	opoio, Use the repos	06:58
wileee	!skype	06:58
ubottu	To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga	06:58
opoio	wileee: i'm on debian	06:58
cfhowlett	opoio, then you're in the wrong channel. ask #debian	06:59
wileee	opoio, Than go mask #debian	06:59
wileee	ask*	06:59
cfhowlett	wileee, Then ftfy	06:59
ObrienDave	!debian \| opoio	06:59
ubottu	opoio: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/what-is-debian.html - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!	06:59
OerHeks	opoio, easy, install libasound2-plugins:i386 & libasound2-plugins	06:59
wileee	I will ignore the grammar police permanently	07:00
opoio	OerHeks: http://paste.debian.net/286437/	07:00
OerHeks	opoio, why posting here, read your bugreport last line man..	07:01
mobile3	Any webuzo VPS user here ?	07:02
wileee	cfhowlett, If I exspecting to0 br graded I wood act2ly ceer	07:02
* ObrienDave does not want to know what webuzo is ;P		07:02
OerHeks	mobile3, it is not in our repo's, you might better try #ubuntu-server ?	07:03
mobile3	no user there...	07:03
OerHeks	mobile3, no you there...	07:04
mobile3	OerHeks: I am there...	07:05
slvrby_	hi guys	07:11
slvrby_	I remember that there used to be a command in ubuntu terminal that would give all the details about compiling capabilities of the system	07:12
slvrby_	is there such a command at all?	07:12
slvrby_	am I muted?	07:13
slvrby_	hello?	07:13
DJones	slvrby_: We can see you messages, its just a bit quiet at the moment	07:14
ObrienDave	slvrby_, we see you	07:14
slvrby_	ok	07:14
slvrby_	thankx	07:14
kishan	!windows	07:14
ubottu	For discussion on Microsoft software, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents	07:14
ObrienDave	kishan, no bot abuse ;P	07:14
lordievader	Good morning.	07:18
ObrienDave	o/	07:18
ObrienDave	;P	07:18
lordievader	Hehe	07:19
lordievader	o/	07:19
OerHeks	So what should compiling capabilities be on commandline? apt-cache search gcc ?	07:21
lordievader	OerHeks: ./configure -> make -> make install?	07:21
nils_	build-essential maybe what you're looking for	07:21
nils_	compilers, make etc.	07:21
slvrby_	OerHeks : hi, no I mean all the compile capabilities of ubuntu at the moment, like for fortran, java, python, c, c++ and every other possible thing	07:22
slvrby_	I have build-essential and jdk already installed	07:22
lordievader	slvrby_: If you install the compiler for it you can compile it.	07:22
slvrby_	and they are working just fine	07:22
slvrby_	I just want to know what exactly can I run or compile from source on my machine at the momenbt	07:23
slvrby_	like what can my machine compile	07:23
lordievader	Anything, if you have the compiler.	07:23
slvrby_	with current configuration	07:23
OerHeks	oh, something like this>> dpkg --list \| grep compiler	07:23
slvrby_	<OerHeks> : yes exactly, but this command doesn't list jdk	07:24
slvrby_	while I have it and I can compile with javac	07:24
pratik	gry: any idea about the ssh problem I mentioned?	07:25
slvrby_	EriC^^ : hi EriC^^, how you doing?	07:25
EriC^^	hi slvrby_ good, you?	07:26
slvrby_	thanks mate	07:26
slvrby_	just doin fine	07:26
EriC^^	what's up?	07:26
slvrby_	with me? or with the channel?	07:26
EriC^^	you	07:27
slvrby_	well I am trying to get a detailed info report on my compiling capabilities of my machine	07:27
slvrby_	dpkg --list \| grep compiler was suggested, but it doesn't list everything	07:27
slvrby_	like it doesn't list my javac	07:28
slvrby_	I want to know what my machine can compile exactly, with current installed compilers and configurations	07:28
OerHeks	some equelevant of the fedora command 'yum groupinfo "Development tools" ?	07:28
OerHeks	there is no such extended info i guess.	07:29
slvrby_	I am not familiar with fedora commands that much, but yes maybe	07:29
OerHeks	slvrby_, i think you need to examin that per language.	07:29
nils_	There is a Section attribute I think which you can probably somehow query (Section: devel for gcc for example)	07:30
nils_	but this will probably list all dev headers as well	07:30
EriC^^	slvrby_: why don't you use something like a configure file that checks what you have	07:30
slvrby_	EriC^^ : I have no idea what that means... I mean practically	07:30
ali_	hello	07:31
slvrby_	EriC^^ : btw I am not trying to check and see if my code would compile or not, I just want to make a profile, and if someone asked a question like: "what can you run, or what can you compile on your machine" then I would give him this list and say here is what I can compile or run from code	07:32
slvrby_	on this specific machine, at this time and date, with this configuration	07:33
slvrby_	I remember a few years ago I saw a piece of script or software, i don't remember exactly, that did something like this	07:34
slvrby_	on debian	07:34
OerHeks	slvrby_, oke, then showing what you can do on comandline is pretty useless, show the development section in softwarecenter/synaptic ( i prefer synaptic)	07:35
slvrby_	But I don't have all the things from dev section of software center installed on my machine	07:35
slvrby_	I only have gcc and java and a few fortran thingies	07:36
Bluewolf	Hi all, If I were to completely remove the Unity flavour and everything attached to it, would this be the right command? - http://paste.ubuntu.com/11947147/	07:36
slvrby_	oh and ofcourse python by default, but stil I want an official list... any ways thank you guys I think we have spent enough time on my problem	07:36
Bluewolf	I am using Ubuntu 14.04	07:37
cfhowlett	Bluewolf, 1. why? 2. proceed with caution. unity is tightly integrated in ubuntu. disabling/removing unity could break things. 3. consider a different flavor	07:37
cfhowlett	!flavor \| Bluewolf	07:37
ubottu	Bluewolf: !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu.	07:37
lordievader	Bluewolf: !purekde	07:38
lordievader	!purekde \| Bluewolf	07:38
ubottu	Bluewolf: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde »	07:38
lordievader	Other way round...	07:38
cfhowlett	there is no !pureunity Think about that.	07:39
EriC^^	actually pure unity means just unity installed	07:39
ObrienDave	Bluewolf, that command would certainly leave you with a half borked system	07:39
OerHeks	!puregnome > OerHeks	07:39
ubottu	OerHeks, please see my private message	07:39
Bluewolf	cfhowlett: I disagree with unity, I have the Gnome flavour installed and want it to remain purely gnome. Basically everything to do with unity that is of no use to me with Gnome, I would like off my machine with only important operating system software remaining if it has to.	07:41
lordievader	Bluewolf: Anyhow, it is usually easier to install a different flavour fresh then trying to remove a previous one.	07:41
cfhowlett	Bluewolf, so download ubuntu-gnome and install that flavor. much less likely to bork things.	07:41
Bluewolf	lordievader: I have gnome installed, just remnants of unity to remove and then a happier life :D	07:42
pragomer1	I remastered (manually via chroot) ubuntu 14.04 and 15.04. In both I installed "virtualbox-guest-utils". In 15.04 fullscreen in vbox works, in 14.04 the guest additions seem to be non active.. do you have an explanation for this?	07:42
Bluewolf	cfhowlett: bork things, I have Gnome installed?	07:43
cfhowlett	Bluewolf, you like gnome. you don't like unity. so INSTALL ubuntu-gnome flavor and be done with it.	07:43
ObrienDave	if it's not hurting anything, WHY do you want to take a chance on killing your system?	07:44
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cfhowlett	Bluewolf, REMOVING components from a tightly integrated unity/ubuntu has the potential to bork things. installing gnome, in and of itself, does not.	07:44
cyberalex4life	Bluewolf, I tried once installing gnome shell together with unity and some things didn't work fine	07:44
diffract\|	how can i disable alt-left mouse click on ubuntu 14.94?	07:45
diffract\|	i use it for some applications	07:45
ObrienDave	14.94? ;p	07:45
cyberalex4life	diffract\|, If I recall, from compiz	07:45
diffract\|	oh	07:46
Bluewolf	cfhowlett: Yes thats what I am doing, but I want to remove the unity because its causing a number of annoying glitches and bugs I really don't have time to fix or learn to fix, specially when I don't like it. I only said on removing what can be removed of unity. If I were to reinstall Ubuntu (The same one) with a live Gnome USB then there would not be any traces of Unity in it would there?	07:47
wileee	yes	07:49
wileee	nothing is removed lol	07:49
cfhowlett	Bluewolf, your system, your choice. You seem determined to go the riskier route. As has been suggested - repeatedly - you COULD just install https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME but hey, you're the boss. Good luck. No further advice from me on this issue.	07:49
Bluewolf	cfhowlett: look I don't mean to be a pest on the issue, I am rather unsure about the whole thing and most likely don't know enough about linux to understand the stuff. I'm just throwing questions in an attempt to get answers.	07:54
ObrienDave	Bluewolf, we have given you what we consider to be the SAFEST answers. If you want to scalp your OS, your choise	07:55
ObrienDave	*choice	07:55
wileee	I run the shell release there is unity core in it,	07:55
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: Okay, like I said I don't know enough to do that. Thanks.	07:57
EriC^^	Bluewolf: if you're feeling experimental check here http://paste.ubuntu.com/11947218/	07:58
wileee	Bluewolf, Use the mini net install next time, and load what you want.	07:58
EriC^^	i dont know if it's right though, use at your own risk :D	07:58
AppAraat	hi, I have 14.04, trying to run rtorrent. Somehow despite many attempts I still get the error "rtorrent: Could not lock session directory: "/home/me/Download/torrents/", No such file or directory"	07:59
AppAraat	this is my conf - http://apaste.info/dsB	07:59
Bluewolf	EriC^^: Thanks but I think I will play it safe.	07:59
EriC^^	alright	08:00
AppAraat	I tried changing "directory = ~/Download/" to "directory = ./Download/" and even with full path, no luck.	08:00
AppAraat	chmodding everything from Downloads folder to 777 also didn't work.	08:00
EriC^^	gave out a hell of a long list	08:00
EriC^^	the logic makes sense though so i dunno	08:00
AppAraat	also, there is no rtorrent.lock anywhere in those dirs.	08:00
EriC^^	it checks if an ubuntu desktop dependency is in gnome-desktop's dependency, if not, adds it to the list	08:01
Ben64	AppAraat: use full paths everywhere	08:03
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: Is the unity software spread throughout the Ubuntu system or is it mealy a flavour like any other, for example: If I were to download a Gnome, Lubuntu or Xubuntu live CD's and install one of them on my PC, do they have unity software in the base system or the flavours software?	08:05
EriC^^	Bluewolf: it's just a de	08:06
Bluewolf	EriC^^: DE?	08:06
OerHeks	Bluewolf, if you format current partitions, no	08:06
wileee	You will have to exorcise your OS	08:07
ObrienDave	DE - Desktop Environment	08:07
EriC^^	lol	08:07
AppAraat	Ben64: but I tried doing that, still same error.	08:07
Ben64	AppAraat: pastebin full command and error	08:07
wileee	my gnome only has unity in it, out of site, no DE	08:07
Bluewolf	Oh okay	08:08
coffeecupp	anyone using bspwm on here???	08:08
ObrienDave	Bluewolf, the "core" system is the same for all flavors of Ubuntu, you just install different DEs and WMs (Window Managers)	08:09
Bluewolf	wileee: So you installed with Unity then just added the Gnome flavour, so unity runs in the background?	08:09
wileee	Bluewolf, Nope it is the shell release	08:09
wileee	gnome shell	08:09
OerHeks	coffeecupp, is it in softwarecenter?	08:09
EriC^^	how does gnome not have software-center installed? i wonder if apt-rdepends has a bug in it	08:10
coffeecupp	nope its a window manager	08:10
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: Thank you, that now puts things into perspective for me.	08:10
EriC^^	O.o	08:10
ObrienDave	Bluewolf, most welcome	08:10
OerHeks	coffeecupp, i know what wm means, but not what i asked	08:10
ObrienDave	Bluewolf, I run Xubuntu, Uses XFCE as the DE	08:11
coffeecupp	No its not on there.	08:11
AppAraat	Ben64: rtorrent: Could not lock session directory: "/home/me/Download/torrents/", No such file or directory	08:11
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wileee	Bluewolf, The gnome release is a modified ubuntu, not a build, so a mini install may be different, but as suggested the base system shares.	08:11
AppAraat	and the command is simply rtorrent	08:11
EriC^^	AppAraat: is your username "me" ?	08:12
AppAraat	yes	08:12
OerHeks	AppAraat, you did a 777 on that folder?	08:13
AppAraat	yes, recursively. I'll try doing that again but using full paths this time.	08:13
EriC^^	AppAraat: it's supposed to be /home/e/Downloads not Download i think	08:13
EriC^^	i mean /home/me/Downloads	08:14
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: Okay so Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Mythbuntu are types of OS variations while Unity, Gnome, XFCE, KDE and LXDE are the flavours which can be used on each OS variation of Ubuntu. Am I right?	08:15
al2o3-cr	Bluewolf: thumbs up!	08:15
EriC^^	Bluewolf: no, ubuntu xubuntu etc. are ubuntu with xfce ubuntu with lxde etc.	08:15
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ObrienDave	!flavors \| Bluewolf, sort of.	08:17
ubottu	Bluewolf, sort of.: !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu.	08:17
AppAraat	EriC^^: you are correct. I should either A.) Get some sleep, considering I've been up 16h straight or B.) Get more coffee.	08:17
cfhowlett	Bluewolf, each ubuntu !flavor comes with a specific interface, e.g. lxde, xfce4 AND is packages with a set of default apps. ALL !flavors are "ubuntu" OS	08:17
EriC^^	Bluewolf: ubuntu can come without a de, and you can install whatever de you want, making it xubuntu if you want xfce as the de	08:17
AppAraat	EriC^^: since you've pointed out my stupid mistake, I will let you choose over my fate.	08:18
brollypop	staying 16h up isnt reallly unusual, for me at least	08:18
AppAraat	well yeah I can do it... but the consequences have been noted in this channel :p	08:18
ObrienDave	AppAraat, i suggest sleep :)	08:19
AppAraat	that is only for EriC^^ to decide at this point :p	08:19
EriC^^	me too, unless the fate of the free world lies in your hands, or something to like that	08:20
Bluewolf	Okay now I appear to be on the same time line with everyone, thank you for the patience and help ;-)	08:20
ObrienDave	just a suggestion ;P	08:20
EriC^^	just a suggestion though :P up to you	08:20
ObrienDave	Bluewolf, happy to have been of assistance	08:20
* AppAraat checks yet again whether earth's existence is dependent on him.		08:20
AppAraat	nope, not the case currently.	08:20
AppAraat	nap time it is :)	08:21
ObrienDave	i would think no ;P	08:21
wileee	AppAraat, Mother ship clears you for sleep.	08:21
AppAraat	finally!	08:21
AppAraat	And as such... the great rest commences...	08:21
murcha	is it possible to print a specific raw with awk print{} command?	08:24
EriC^^	specific raw?	08:25
EriC^^	oh, row?	08:25
ObrienDave	ummm, i see "raw" O.o	08:25
EriC^^	yeah awk 'NR==<row'	08:25
EriC^^	* awk 'NR==<row>'	08:25
EriC^^	starts from 1	08:26
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: Okay next issue, I can't get my laptop to boot off my USB and install Ubuntu. The USB drive is working fine, the hash is correct, I have set USBHD as first of the boot priority but it still does not work. Any idea?	08:26
ObrienDave	Bluewolf, what did you use to make the USB?	08:27
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: Start Up Disk Creator, but boots fine off the other machines I have. In fact its perfect on all other machines.	08:28
pragomer1	installing virtualbox-guest-x11 under ubuntu 14.04 I get this error: http://pastebin.com/xgWEiPsK	08:28
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ObrienDave	Bluewolf, does your laptop have a DVD reader?	08:29
amincd	why doesn't my update manager automatically prompt to upgrade to 14.04 from the current 12.04?	08:30
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: Yes it does and it boots fine off that, ah problem is that I don't have any DVD's :(	08:30
amincd	I thought it tried to upgrade to any LTS release, and 14.04 is LTS	08:30
OerHeks	amincd, set that in your sources menu/update options menu.	08:30
cfhowlett	amincd, default is NOT lts upgrades. you need to select it.	08:31
ObrienDave	Bluewolf, 5 min break, please	08:31
OerHeks	you would get that question when 12.04 runs out of support, so 2017	08:31
amincd	OerHeks: oh I see	08:31
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: Sure thing.	08:31
amincd	But in my Update Manager settings, the setting is 'Notify me of a new Ubuntu version: For long-term support versions". Shouldn't it therefore be notifying me of 14.04?	08:33
EriC^^	yeah	08:34
fidel_	amincd: yes	08:34
OerHeks	yes, i assumed you did not had that option set	08:34
murcha	EriC^^: thanks worked!	08:35
ObrienDave	Bluewolf, beer rent ;P does that current USB boot on other machines?	08:36
amincd	hmm, so I'm puzzled as to why I've gotten no prompt to update to 14.04	08:36
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: Yes it does, on the two others I have.	08:37
ObrienDave	ok, you can see if you have a USBfloppy setting in BIOS. if not, i suggest burning ISO to DVD and installing from there	08:38
Ben64	amincd: you can probably run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade" to upgrade	08:38
cfhowlett	amincd, I believe you must have the 12.04.5 for the next LTS to be offered	08:38
* ObrienDave has had MUCH better luck using DVD		08:39
ObrienDave	Bluewolf, or you can try using unetbootin or yumi to make USB	08:40
OerHeks	Bluewolf, i need to set boot in 2 places, in boot priority and hdd priority	08:41
ObrienDave	Bluewolf, and there is that also ^^^	08:42
EriC^^	murcha: no problem	08:42
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: In the BIOS there is, USBHDD - Flash Drive or hard drive, USBCD - CD Drive, and USBFDD which I am assuming it Floppy drive?	08:42
ObrienDave	USBFDD is floppy drive.	08:42
ObrienDave	USBHDD flash should work	08:43
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: I can use unetbootin in the future, but the flash is working on other machines quite fine. So I have them in this order - USBHDD, USBCD, USBFDD, SATA CD, SATA HDD?	08:44
Bluewolf	Its not working in that order.	08:45
Bluewolf	Or should I remove USBFDD?	08:45
Bluewolf	Disable?	08:45
ObrienDave	nope, once it sees USBHDD it wont seek to the next device	08:45
OerHeks	maybe put it in a USB2 port, if you run it in USB3 mode	08:46
ObrienDave	possibly	08:46
OerHeks	did you ever boot usb from that machine before?	08:46
ObrienDave	your SATA HDD is last just so you can do things like boot from CD or DVD	08:47
Bluewolf	OerHeks: Never, this is my first attempt. And yes I have been attempting to boot from USB3 ports, let me try on the USB2 as all the other machines are that.	08:48
ObrienDave	if SATA HDD was first, it would NEVER see the CD or DVD	08:48
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: Yeah I set it like that in case I boot of a USB or CD	08:48
ObrienDave	cool	08:48
OerHeks	Bluewolf, i assume there is window 8 on it?	08:48
ObrienDave	ah, i did not think of win8	08:49
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: Yeah I got that a while back when I move onto USB. I have Windows 7 on it.	08:49
Bluewolf	OerHeks: Windows 7	08:49
OerHeks	not sure windows 7 knows fastboot ..	08:49
ObrienDave	if it came with Win8 it's probably a UEFI bios	08:50
ObrienDave	you will need to throw UEFI into legacy mode IIRC	08:50
ObrienDave	!uefi \| Bluewolf	08:51
ubottu	Bluewolf: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI	08:51
OerHeks	and hdd priority, did you checked that already ?	08:51
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: It never came with Windows 7 this is the manual - http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/201210/20121028104609083/Win8_Manual_eng.pdf	08:53
Bluewolf	OerHeks: Yes I did, its at the bottom and USB2 does not work	08:53
ObrienDave	then I would suggest the UEFI link in the above factoid	08:54
gry	pratik: I walked away. Your message is AGAIN cut off at the same character; you have to split it manually.	08:54
ObrienDave	i'm an OLD BIOS guy, UEFI is too new for me. my wife won't let me touch her Win8 machine ;P	08:55
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: Hehehhe, Everyone trusts me with their machines, because I know more than they do even though I know so little :D	08:59
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: Okay so how do I tell what format my Windows was installed in between UEFI and BIOS?	09:00
ObrienDave	when i drove a big rig, i would spend most of my 34 hour breaks fixing other drivers computers. grrrrrrrr	09:00
qos	Where can i get assistance for a failed launchpad build job?	09:01
ObrienDave	Bluewolf, i don't know, i only know UEFI has more settings lie "fastboot" and such	09:01
ObrienDave	*like	09:01
ObrienDave	qos, launchpad, maybe?	09:02
qos	ObrienDave, could you be more exact?	09:02
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: Okay well in the BIOS, Legacy USB support and UEFI boot are both disabled, does that change anything?	09:03
ObrienDave	sorry, no i can't	09:03
ObrienDave	Bluewolf, yes, i would think you want legacy USB enabled. but i'm only guessing	09:03
lotuspsychje	qos: whats your issue?	09:04
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: It won't hurt to try right or will it, I'm rather wary of playing in the BIOS, specially with limited knowledge?	09:05
qos	lotuspsychje, The job cannot fetch the index base URL (https://pypi.python.org/simple/) of pypi and therefore it cannot install its dependencies.	09:06
lotuspsychje	qos: did you add a ppa?	09:06
ObrienDave	Bluewolf, i understand. but i don't think changing that will cause irreparable damage. you can change it back if need be.	09:07
ObrienDave	Bluewolf, the trick is to change only ONE setting at a time so you know how to fix it if need be :)	09:07
qos	lotuspsychje, Nope, just main and universe packages. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/212828448/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-i386.pulseaudio-dlna_0.4.0_BUILDING.txt.gz	09:07
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: Okay then makes sense, I will enable it and see if it does anything :D	09:08
ObrienDave	crosses fingers :)	09:08
Bluewolf	And toes	09:08
ObrienDave	LOL	09:08
lotuspsychje	qos: maybe the #python guys might know?	09:08
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: Huh It works, Its booted off the USB!!!!!! :D	09:10
ObrienDave	\o/	09:10
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: Oky now for the learning part, why would enabling Legacy USB get it working, what is the perpose?	09:11
lotuspsychje	!uefi \| Bluewolf alot of usefull info here	09:12
ubottu	Bluewolf alot of usefull info here: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI	09:12
ObrienDave	Bluewolf, well, to put it bluntly, it makes the system more idiot proof LOL	09:13
ObrienDave	it's a safety thing where Joe Schmoe can't stuff a USB in and bork the whole system :)	09:14
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: Then that works well for me, as long as its impenetrable. :D	09:15
Bluewolf	So now the next question is "do I leave it enabled after installing or disable it"?	09:15
ObrienDave	i hate to do this but i need to get to sleep. i work second shift. there are a LOT of great volunteers here that can help you further. * good luck *	09:16
kuman	Hello	09:17
Bluewolf	ObrienDave: Ah before you go would you mind, just that last question?	09:17
lotuspsychje	kuman: welcome, how can we help you?	09:17
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lotuspsychje	Bluewolf: enabling usb or not, is just to be able to load up usb devices at boot	09:18
lotuspsychje	Bluewolf: so its your choice really if you wanna enable or disable after ubuntu install	09:18
Bluewolf	lotuspsychje: Okay, Pro's and Con's point of view by leaving it enabled or disabled?	09:20
lotuspsychje	Bluewolf: leaving it enabled, if someone puts a bootable Os usb in your system, he will be able to install it	09:20
EriC^^	or access your files	09:21
EriC^^	but if you don't have a bios password set then it's just a tiny layer of security	09:21
EriC^^	then again who's going to try to boot a live usb to get your files?	09:21
lotuspsychje	the FBI :p	09:22
EriC^^	i was thinking tooth fairy, but yeah	09:23
Bluewolf	lotuspsychje: Exactly	09:23
Bluewolf	Well then there clearly is no point in disabling. Because if someone really wanted to access my files then they would know what to do right? :D	09:24
vinyasa	I want to download krita software to install in another system. Kindly anyone help me with this	09:25
lotuspsychje	Bluewolf: i always disable booting up other devices after an install, if your system is stable why leave it enabled?	09:25
vinyasa	to get offline .deb flie	09:25
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lotuspsychje	vinyasa: sudo apt-get download krita	09:25
inerkick	will it just download the software?	09:25
OerHeks	yeah, change nick after asking support :-)	09:26
inerkick	complete download actually?.	09:26
Bluewolf	lotuspsychje: Fair point, but why disable it - For the minor security reasons or are there other attachments to that question?	09:26
inerkick	i want to download to install in another system	09:26
blackintruder	just download the .deb file and install it in terminal with command dpkg -i 'package name'	09:26
Ben64	it will only work on the same version of ubuntu	09:26
inerkick	thanks	09:27
inerkick	but it only fetched "0ubuntu3 [4,984 kB]etched 4,984 kB "	09:27
Ben64	and thats bad because....?	09:28
lotuspsychje	Bluewolf: just install your ubuntu mate :p	09:28
EriC^^	inerkick: you might need it's dependencies too	09:28
EriC^^	type apt-cache show <package> to see them	09:28
inerkick	oh. So it's not possible to download which I can use to in another laptop, isn't?	09:28
Ben64	install that deb	09:29
EriC^^	it is, you just need to download the dependencies too	09:29
Ben64	make sure the ubuntu version is the same	09:29
blackintruder	http://pkgs.org/download/krita	09:29
Ben64	or just hook up the internet to the other laptop	09:29
OerHeks	here 'krita' is 35 packages, 56 mb	09:29
EriC^^	inerkick: does the other laptop have kde? seems to be very kde dependent	09:29
Bluewolf	lotuspsychje: Okay, I will disable it after install. But only because you said so :D	09:29
blackintruder	there you go....thats the link	09:29
inerkick	unity	09:29
lotuspsychje	Bluewolf: good luck!	09:29
Ben64	blackintruder: not really, those aren't ubuntu packages and not supported here	09:30
inerkick	in my laptop it is mate.	09:30
inerkick	I am using friend's laptop to download krita to use it in my laptop	09:30
Ben64	inerkick: easy way is to hook your laptop up to the internet	09:30
EriC^^	inerkick: which ubuntu version do you and him have?	09:30
inerkick	may be. But I want this file to install in few more laptops too	09:30
EriC^^	inerkick: i think Ben64 is right	09:30
blackintruder	@Ben64 what version is the OS	09:31
inerkick	I installed Ubuntu 14.04, unity, mine is ubuntu mate 14.04, and my brother's is lxde	09:31
Bluewolf	lotuspsychje: Thank you for the help, and when you next see ObrienDave on thank him as well for me. I appreciate the valuable help and information given.	09:31
EriC^^	inerkick: you can't hook it up to the net?	09:31
inerkick	now this system freezes often	09:31
Skyrider	Is there a way to import a database (mysql) starting from a specific line?	09:31
Bluewolf	EriC^^: You too, thank you for the help.	09:32
lotuspsychje	Bluewolf: i will mate!	09:32
EriC^^	maybe use his connection as a hot spot?	09:32
EriC^^	Bluewolf: no problem	09:32
inerkick	no, i can't . :( so is the reason i was looking for deb file	09:32
Ben64	inerkick: it freezes often so you want to install krita?	09:32
inerkick	just recently it started freezing	09:32
EriC^^	inerkick: if his laptop has net, you can make it a hotspot and use the wifi on yours	09:32
Ben64	solve the freezing issue first, and figure out how to get internet on it	09:32
inerkick	my laptop works fine	09:32
inerkick	anyway i need to have .deb file since my brother don't have internet.	09:32
Ben64	you're on the internet right now, just hook the other one up	09:33
blackintruder	download with ur comp the transfer the .deb file to his the u install...its that easy..	09:33
OerHeks	see , you would get the download option http://i.imgur.com/8Zg6yjp.png	09:33
OerHeks	35 packages	09:34
Bluewolf	OerHeks: Oh and thanks too for the assist.	09:35
blackintruder	Does anyone know how to create an msvenom payload that is totally undetectable by virus total??	09:35
Bluewolf	Thanks and Cheers all. . . .	09:35
blackintruder	msfvenom...sorry..	09:35
lotuspsychje	blackintruder: hacking issues are not allowed here	09:35
Ben64	blackintruder: not the channel, or the network probably for that	09:35
blackintruder	am not hacking	09:35
OerHeks	Bluewolf, have fun	09:36
OerHeks	blackintruder, metasploit is offtopic here	09:37
Bluewolf	:D	09:37
blackintruder	Cool!.....Myne was for educational purposes..	09:37
vinyasa	hi team	09:37
vinyasa	it's inerkick here.	09:37
OerHeks	I understand, pentesting is not illegal. in some countries it is, btw...	09:38
LoveDr	hi	09:38
blackintruder	am trying to enter proxy settings to my terminal but every time i update it warns me of Access denied and i have the username and password..	09:40
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blackintruder	Any help???....	09:42
Skyrider	using sudo?	09:43
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blackintruder	yea	09:44
Skyrider	are you also in the sudoers list?	09:45
Skyrider	Ya, leaving wont do you any good	09:46
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Skyrider	aw	09:53
Skyrider	Ubuntu still uses an old mariadb version?	09:53
op	How to rewrite # in URL ?	09:53
lotuspsychje	!latest \| Skyrider	09:58
ubottu	Skyrider: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.	09:58
Skyrider	Alrighty.	09:58
lotuspsychje	Skyrider: if you find a security flaw, please feel free to report to #ubuntu-hardened	09:59
lotuspsychje	op: if you mean url encoding, have you searched software centre?	10:01
AEL-H	Hello, I am getting issues with wget authenticating to my university blackboard which I wish to mirror for offline viewing, I have tried posting the data and also using cookies as well as the auth-no-challenge parameter. Does anyone have any suggestions?	10:14
BluesKaj	Hey folks	10:17
Skyrider	aw man	10:19
Skyrider	I can no longer install mariadb 5	10:19
phw	Is it possible to create ae subdomain (foo.bar.company.com) if i do not have access to the dns server (only bar.company.com seems resolvable right now)	10:21
pratik	Hi, I am running a command from one machine on another machine using ssh. ssh <host> a.pl	10:21
pratik	Now, a.pl starts several other instances of a.pl using the 'system' method and executing each of them in the background.	10:21
pratik	I have this integrated with LDAP and when one of the instances dies, the main a.pl script comes to know about this as it continuously keeps on monitoring them.	10:21
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pratik	I would expect ssh to exit when this main script dies. But, somehow it seems that ssh keeps on waiting on all the processes that were launched. ssh exits when I kill the remaining instances. Why is this so?	10:22
pratik	gry: Please find the question again. Is that fine now?	10:22
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gry	pratik: I get the full question now. The question is, if you leave it hanging and open a second shell session (without the a.pl in it), and run 'ps aux' there, will it show that a.pl is still running?	10:27
gry	pratik: if it does, then you have to show your code (to here, or to #perl channel, at your discretion).	10:27
gry	pratik: before showing it, if desired, you can comment some parts out which are unrelated to the problem of it not exiting.	10:27
Skyrider	soneva..	10:28
Skyrider	What the hell is going on..	10:28
pratik	gry: I have a second shell and I have done all the monitoring and debugging in that shell only. I have found that the main a.pl script is not shown in the output of ps -aux after one of the instance dies	10:29
vinyasa_	HOw to find my lan password.	10:29
Skyrider	everytime I attempt to reinstall mariadb 5, I'm getting: Package mariadb-server-5.5 is not configured yet.	10:29
vinyasa_	I want to change it	10:29
vinyasa_	I'm using ubuntu 14.04 unity	10:29
pratik	gry: so it is confirmed that the main script has exited, other instances getting owned by init	10:29
vinyasa_	just recenly installed ubuntu	10:29
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inerkick	Hi Team	10:31
inerkick	how and where to find my lan password	10:32
pratik	gry: Meanwhile, I have also documented the question and put it up on SO - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31650770/why-does-ssh-wait-for-all-the-launched-processes-to-exit	10:33
gry	pratik: Then it is a "how to not leave process children hanging and how to kill them" question.	10:33
gry	pratik: the answer may depend on how you started them.	10:34
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Skyrider	uugghhh	10:35
Skyrider	Sometimes I really hate linux	10:35
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yura	fdgrdghdhgfyhtfh	10:40
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Guest38703	Hello people	10:40
pratik	gry: my requirement is that I dont want to kill the other children...they are running fine and doing their job...since I am using LDAP, the script is smart enough to bring the failed instance up again...	10:43
gry	pratik: then you're starting them wrongly. You need to schedule them to run separately, not as children.	10:43
gry	And I forget the term for that.	10:43
gry	How are you starting them right now?	10:43
pratik	they are not the children as I am not forking them	10:44
pratik	I am starting them as system "a.pl &";	10:44
gry	OK.	10:44
gry	The man page says:	10:45
gry	The session terminates when the command or shell on the remote machine	10:45
gry	exits and all X11 and TCP connections have been closed.	10:45
gry	So let's say you try to run that script in a command line. Does it open a next command prompt or does it hang? This way we learn whether it exits or not.	10:46
pratik	gry: yes, but there is still some session open when the main script dies	10:46
pratik	debug3: channel 0: status: The following connections are open: #0 client-session (t4 r0 i3/0 o3/0 fd -1/-1 cfd -1)	10:46
pratik	gry: it shows the prompt	10:47
gry	So there is a remaining TCP or X11 connection open, but you weren't using X11, so it's a remaining TCP connection.	10:47
pratik	gry: rightly so	10:47
gry	Looking at your script again, can you tell where it (or a fork) opens a TCP connection through the SSH session and leaves it open?	10:48
gry	If a fork opens a TCP connection through our SSH session, it's of concern to our SSH session even if the main process exits.	10:49
pratik	my script does not open the TCP session...I think that is something which happens at the ssh level	10:49
gry	Ah.	10:49
gry	Okay, I can say I definitely am interested in knowing what it was (please ping me with solution after you find it), but I'm about to head out for a little bit.	10:49
pratik	gry: Ah, alrighty! Can you ping any other experts out here who can help me in this regard?	10:50
tony_	does anyone know much about cairo dock?	10:56
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barq	How can I do-release-upgrade to a specific ubuntu version? The man pages says Upgrade the operating system to the latest release from the command-line. But what happens if there is more than one newer version available?	11:05
OerHeks	barq, currently there is 12.04 + 14.04 + 15.04 ..	11:07
OerHeks	12.04 lts goes to 14.04 lts, and upgrading from 14.04 to 15.10 needs the missing step 14.10 ...	11:08
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barq	OerHeks: What if I have 13.10?	11:15
barq	Goes to 14.04 then?	11:15
farsight_	nihao	11:16
Yando[]	hello	11:16
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gry	pratik: I would ... show a minimal sample of code which reproduces the problem (known as a testcase). Otherwise it's really hard to guess.	11:20
OerHeks	barq, yes.. you should have done that a year ago	11:20
OerHeks	barq, so there is no multiple versions available for you	11:20
Luy1n	hi, I'm trying to convert a lot of ogg files with avconv in subfolders. My command was this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11947932/ and I get many errors stating "bash: test: too many arguments". I guess something is wrong in my command, or I'm not escaping spaces correctly. Could somebody take a look please? :)	11:27
pratik	gry: Can you please have a look at http://pastebin.com/rMPNAv6g?	11:29
barq	What are the risks of still using 13.10?	11:30
cfhowlett	barq, all the bad things you can think of, especially as there are no security updates offered	11:30
OerHeks	barq, tons of security issues .. no heartbleed, and other ssl patches.	11:30
bazhang	barq, no support whatsoever, security no updates ever	11:30
cfhowlett	barq, and "no support" means NO support. Don't come in here crying.	11:31
barq	What if I never open the browser?	11:31
OerHeks	barq, close it now, so we don't have to answer.	11:32
cfhowlett	barg if you have ANY online connection, you're at risk. Why don't you upgrade to a supported OS?	11:32
bazhang	barq, nothing will mitigate the no support part ever	11:32
OerHeks	you are vulnerable now anyway ..	11:32
cfhowlett	barq, actually, don't bother. the only advice you'll see is "Upgrade. Now." and no need to keep asking because - say it with me - "13.10 is no longer supported."	11:33
barq	I am not using 13.10, but some colleagues are and I am having a hard time persuading them/the boss that an upgrade is mandatory.	11:33
gry	pratik: I'll test that in a moment.	11:33
Yando[]_	hello	11:33
cfhowlett	barq, the next OS is 14.04 which is LTS. If your users are too - thick - to recognize the value of using a supported OS, I'd have to say, they'll learn.	11:34
pratik	gry: Cool, thanks	11:35
anodesni	Can I keep firefox profile on a usb stick? Or will it wear down the usb drive?	11:35
cfhowlett	anodesni, yes you can.	11:35
anodesni	cfhowlett: do you know how I can see how much data is written to that folder?	11:35
barq	When doing apt-get dist-upgrade it starts doing the upgrade for some packages but then after a while there is always a 407 proxy authentication problem.	11:36
cfhowlett	barq, because it's NO LONGER SUPPORTED.	11:36
barq	The proxy is configure in cntlm	11:36
barq	configured*	11:36
Luy1n	barq: why don't you do us and yourself the favour of just reinstalling a new, supported os?	11:36
cfhowlett	barq, set your software sources to LTS only, sudo apt-get update && sudo do-release-upgrade	11:37
barq	I am attempting an upgrade but have this proxy problem halfway through	11:37
barq	No dist-upgrade before doing do-release-upgrade?	11:37
cfhowlett	!eolupgrade \| barq	11:37
ubottu	barq: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades	11:37
barq	I read that	11:37
barq	It says dist-upgrade first	11:37
barq	Then do-release-upgrade	11:37
OerHeks	barq, funny, how would you normally get updates ?	11:38
barq	update and then dist-upgrade	11:38
OerHeks	oh wait, your collegues didn't bother for a year	11:38
cfhowlett	anodesni, navigate to your /home/.mozilla folder and display properties	11:39
gry	pratik: I don't know what it is that you're using... 'a.pl' is not really a valid command, and b.pl is not either; I'm replacing them with ./a.pl	11:39
anodesni	cfhowlett: yes, but I don't mean amount of data, I mean number of writes, which reduces lifespan of the usb drive.	11:40
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OerHeks	maybe this page is any help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Setting_up_apt-get_to_use_a_http-proxy	11:40
cfhowlett	anodesni, no idea.	11:40
pratik	you would need to make them executable and they would run fine	11:41
pratik	gry: ^	11:41
gry	For me it hangs without even printing the hi things... I think I reproduced the problem. (Yes, I made them executable, but ~ is not in my PATH, therefore they're not commands on their own.)	11:41
barq	It seems to work for short updates, say update, but when doing dist-upgrade it takes so long that at some point the proxy authentication fails.	11:42
cfhowlett	barq, download the .iso, create a boot USB and clean install	11:43
Wanshot	a	11:44
barq	clean install is not an option	11:44
Wanshot	a	11:44
Wanshot	Hello	11:44
cfhowlett	Wanshot, ask your ubuntu question	11:44
gry	Or maybe not... hrm. It exits just fine for me. I'm going to do it again and give it the time it needs.	11:45
gry	See, it pauses because that code contains a line which makes it pause.	11:45
Wanshot	yes, how to sharing wifi modem in ubuntu? such as the internet sharing on win 7	11:47
gry	pratik: your example works for me, with a.pl in the ssh command replaced with ./a.pl, and with b.pl replaced with ./b.pl inside of the script. It exits after saying the hi 5 times and does not hang.	11:48
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cfhowlett	!ics \| Wanshot_L	11:48
ubottu	Wanshot_L: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing	11:48
gry	pratik: with that I'm about to head to sleep. If you have a new testcase, please highlight me in-channel, and I'll read it in about 10 hours.	11:48
Luy1n	hi, I'm trying to convert a lot of ogg files with avconv in subfolders. My command was this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11947932/ and I get many errors stating "bash: test: too many arguments". I guess something is wrong in my command, or I'm not escaping spaces correctly. Could somebody take a look please? :)	11:49
pratik	gry: I know it would work, what about the problem though? Ssh should have exited when a.pl exited right? is that the expected behavior?	11:50
EriC^^	Luy1n: for file in *.ogg ; do avconv -i "$file" -acodec mp3 "$file".mp3; done	11:51
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Alfred_345745	Hi guys , is ubuntu 13.10 still supported ?	11:52
cfhowlett	Alfred_345745, no. not at all.	11:52
Luy1n	EriC^^: thanks. will that also work for subdirectories or just the current folder_	11:52
cfhowlett	!eolupgrade \| Alfred_345745	11:52
ubottu	Alfred_345745: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades	11:52
EriC^^	Luy1n: current dir only	11:52
gry	pratik: it is the expected, AND the actual behaviour (with the example you gave). I am yet to see the problem closely enough to understand it.	11:52
Luy1n	EriC^^: ok thank you	11:52
EriC^^	Luy1n: use find if you want it recursive	11:52
Alfred_345745	i'l looking to upgrade , what is next stable release you'd reccomand ?	11:52
EriC^^	np	11:53
cfhowlett	!LTS \| Alfred_345745,	11:53
ubottu	Alfred_345745,: LTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04)	11:53
pratik	gry: Fine	11:53
Alfred_345745	ubottu : Thanks man that was useful	11:53
ubottu	Alfred_345745: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	11:53
Alfred_345745	Whoah :D	11:53
Tinyyy	talk to me obottu	11:54
* Luy1n loves ubottu		11:54
Tinyyy	talk to me ubottu	11:54
cfhowlett	Tinyyy, ask your ubuntu question	11:54
Tinyyy	ubuntu can eat?	11:54
bazhang	/msg ubottu Tinyyy NOT here	11:54
Alfred_345745	one more question , i have only 1gb left in HDD , is running upgrade will cause a problem ?	11:55
cfhowlett	Alfred_345745, I'd clean that out before attempting an upgrade.	11:55
gry	pratik: thanks for bearing with my slow pace, and good luck. I am hoping to hear back about it overnight.	11:55
cfhowlett	Alfred_345745, sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean	11:55
pratik	gry: No problem, thanks for all your help. I will let you know if I find something.	11:56
Alfred_345745	cfhowlett , already done that , how much empty space you'd recommand ?	11:56
cfhowlett	Alfred_345745, errr, you might find it less painful to download 14.04 and clean install instead of a hot upgrade	11:56
caveman_	anybody running ubuntu as a virtual machine?	11:57
Alfred_345745	cfhowlett : Alright , Thanks mate	11:57
cfhowlett	Alfred_345745, happy2help!	11:57
bazhang	!vm \| caveman_	11:58
ubottu	caveman_: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications	11:58
Gleidsonfabiano	olá gostaria de tira uma duvida	11:59
bazhang	!br \| Gleidsonfabiano	11:59
ubottu	Gleidsonfabiano: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.	11:59
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Gleidsonfabiano	ajuda?	12:06
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Danskmand	Howdy :-) - I just want to connect to a mysql-server and administer it from here - do I need to install the whole mysql-server package ?	12:08
rimdeker	Is it possible that files get deleted or that my hard drive somehow makes a rollback after a restart? I downloaded some files and created some but had to do a forced reboot	12:13
rimdeker	They were gone and a deleted file was back in my home folder	12:13
EriC^^	rimdeker: it could be the journal	12:13
EriC^^	use reisub to reboot forcefully if you can	12:14
EriC^^	the s part does a sync so anything that needs to be written will be written	12:14
EriC^^	!reisub	12:14
ubottu	In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key	12:14
rimdeker	EriC^^: Ah right, that could be. Thank you	12:14
EriC^^	no problem	12:15
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zippo^	good afternoon Ubuntu'ers, where can I find: color inverter?	12:18
fidel_	!details zippo^	12:19
fidel_	!details \| zippo^	12:20
ubottu	zippo^: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)	12:20
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zippo^	I am visual impaired. I need some black background and white letters. and color inverter if I want see a photo. Do you understand my question fidel_ ?	12:21
ioria	!info xcalib	12:22
ubottu	xcalib (source: xcalib): Tiny monitor calibration loader for Xorg. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.dfsg1-2ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 19 kB, installed size 84 kB	12:22
zippo^	is i xcalib?	12:23
ioria	zippo^ ... i read some .... also orca	12:24
ioria	zippo^ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility	12:24
zippo^	thx ioria !!!	12:25
zippo^	it works now	12:25
zippo^	I am so happy	12:26
cfhowlett	!cookie \| ioria	12:26
ubottu	ioria: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!	12:26
ioria	zippo^ horra !!!	12:26
zippo^	:)	12:26
ioria	i love zippo^ collections	12:27
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zippo^	haha cool. a name of my guide dog is zippo, ioria :)	12:27
cfhowlett	FFUUCCKK_U_jzk, turn off your nick changes.	12:27
ioria	^_^	12:27
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FFUUCCKK_Quokka	Oops sorry	12:28
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UNR314TED	Sorry again	12:29
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t0m-	sup anyone around	12:31
cfhowlett	t0m-, just ask your questions	12:31
sobczyk	hi, I've found a malformed packge http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/ns3/ns3-doc_3.15+dfsg-1_all.deb	12:32
sobczyk	it's part of raring	12:32
cfhowlett	!raring \| sobczyk	12:33
ubottu	sobczyk: Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) was the 18th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 27, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/raring	12:33
t0m-	hmm okay.. as you might know all versions of compiz above 0_9.7.12 have disabled the extra animation plugins and snow effects ETC due instability of openGL ES. im wondering if anyone in here has compiled 9.7.12 and if its stable	12:33
sobczyk	cfhowlett: cool, but I need it for support	12:33
t0m-	i know compiz is dead. but i still use it	12:33
cfhowlett	sobczyk, pretty sure no one cares about fixing packages in EOL distros. update to a supported OS cuz 13.04 ... isn't	12:33
cfhowlett	t0h, "dead" so expect no support	12:34
t0m-	AKa why im here... wondering if someone else has not given a crap about it being unsupported, and can give some support	12:35
brainwash	t0m-: unlikely. I suggest that you go ahead, compile and then test it	12:35
t0m-	eh...	12:36
t0m-	ill just make my own tutorial	12:36
t0m-	was just hoping for quickies	12:36
evgeniy	hi	12:36
abimy	hi everyone	12:36
blaz0r	hi, I seem to have a slight issue when running torify on Ubuntu 14.04.2 (64 Bit)	12:37
blaz0r	I get these warnings	12:37
blaz0r	07:29:41 libtorsocks(15629): WARNING: The symbol res_query() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!	12:37
blaz0r	Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_query() with the reported error: Not Found	12:37
blaz0r	has anybody experienced this issue?	12:38
abimy	no i havnt	12:38
blaz0r	are there any certain dependencies i need for the tor package that could be causing this issue?	12:39
blaz0r	torify does work, however it displays warnings like that over and over and it floods my console	12:39
brainwash	blaz0r: bug 992068	12:40
ubottu	bug 992068 in torsocks (Ubuntu) "Please sync torsocks from Debian" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/992068	12:40
brainwash	blaz0r: you will have to upgrade to version 2.0.0 or newer	12:41
abimy	oh	12:41
blaz0r	how should I go about doing so	12:41
blaz0r	is there a repository I can enable for this	12:41
blaz0r	or would I have to download manually & compile?	12:41
Meerkat	I'm compiling sylpheed with the sources from ubuntu 14.04 but when I run sylpheed I get "error while loading shared libraries: libsylpheed-plugin-0.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". How do I fix this?	12:42
Luy1n	hello, is there a possibility to change the shown wallpaper in lightdm & lightlocker for ONE user? like, for all users it should show their set wallpaper, but for one a specific file should always be displayed? I'm looking for a textconfig file I could drop in my home directory or something like that.	12:43
brainwash	blaz0r: https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/ubuntu/test	12:43
rainbowwarrior	hello I am running Ubuntu 14.04 and my wifi connections icon and sound icon have vanished from the top right corner, how do I get them back please ?	12:43
Luy1n	rainbowwarrior: type "sudo service network-manager start" into a terminal window	12:44
brainwash	blaz0r: or you can manually download the package(s) from a newer ubuntu release (this can cause issues, but it's not very likely)	12:44
brainwash	blaz0r: oh wait, 2.0.0 is in trusty-backports	12:44
rainbowwarrior	Luy1n it says its already running	12:44
abimy	same here	12:45
brainwash	blaz0r: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports	12:45
t0m-	0_9.7.12 works fine so far :)	12:45
abimy	its already running	12:45
Danskmand	Howdy :-) - is it possible to install only the client-part of mysql since I want to connect to a remote server - I am running ubuntu 14.04	12:45
rainbowwarrior	abimy, someone eat yours too ? lol	12:45
Miar	Hi I am unable to use the internet even though it detects the wired connection on ubuntu. Unable?	12:46
Miar	Any help* ?	12:46
blaz0r	thank you brainwash	12:46
t0m-	i guess my question was too complicated. i see why.	12:46
blaz0r	also, anybody here tried ubuntu 15.04 and had a major data loss associated with nautilus?	12:47
t0m-	ill make a tut on the forums later. bye	12:47
ziggyfish	I am trying to install vsftpd on ubuntu. I tried to connect to it and it says 500 OOPS: prctl PR_SET_SECCOMP failed	12:47
ziggyfish	i tried seccomp_sandbox=no , however I still can't log in	12:47
ziggyfish	is there a dependancy I need to install?	12:47
abimy	how dow i install aircrak in ubunto	12:48
blaz0r	brainwash: thank you so much, you solved my issue <3	12:48
Luy1n	Miar: what do you mean by "use the internet"? you're here after all. don't see websites with your browser? can't ping a server?	12:48
blaz0r	funny thing is, i read the same thread 20 minutes ago right, and i just was like well it says debian and just moved on	12:48
ziggyfish	abimy, you will need to compile it from source	12:49
rainbowwarrior	ok im going to upgrade to 14.10 and see if my icons re-appear , think they gone on holiday lol	12:49
Luy1n	is there a possibility to change the shown wallpaper in lightdm & lightlocker for ONE user? like, for all users it should show their set wallpaper, but for one a specific file should always be displayed? I'm looking for a textconfig file I could drop in my home directory or something like that.	12:49
ioria	Meerkat, no problem in compiling .... did you get the code from here ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sylpheed/3.4.1-0ubuntu0.1	12:50
t0m-	the --purging is real	12:52
Meerkat	ioria, "apt-get source sylpheed"	12:52
ioria	Meerkat, i'm 14.04.2 and got sylpheed_3.4.1.orig.tar.bz2 and no problem, compile and run	12:53
ioria	Meerkat, anyway you maybe need a ln -s of some libs on runtime	12:55
brainwash	Luy1n: probably not, but install lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings and see what's possible	12:55
brainwash	Luy1n: I assume that you using lightdm + lightdm-gtk-greeter	12:56
ziggyfish	I wish someone would just help with my problem	12:56
Luy1n	brainwash: I'm using the unity greeter, which seems to make things much more complicated, since it doesn't read from a single file in /etc/lightdm. I just changed lightdm to display a default image for all users instead now. not exactly what I wanted, but good enough	12:57
Luy1n	ziggyfish: what problem?	12:57
ziggyfish	I am trying to install vsftpd on ubuntu. I tried to connect to it and it says 500 OOPS: prctl PR_SET_SECCOMP failed	12:58
ziggyfish	i tried seccomp_sandbox=no , however I still can't log in	12:58
ziggyfish	is there a dependancy I need to install?	12:58
ziggyfish	Luy1n, ^	12:58
Luy1n	ziggyfish: http://superuser.com/questions/908024/vsftpd-500-oops-prctl-pr-set-seccomp-failed found this?	12:59
ziggyfish	Luy1n, yeah, but still no luck	13:00
ziggyfish	how do I enable CONFIG_SECCOMP_FILTER	13:01
Luy1n	ziggyfish: I'm sorry, don't know anything else about that	13:01
ziggyfish	Luy1n, It can happen when your kernel does not have CONFIG_SECCOMP_FILTER enabled.	13:01
ziggyfish	will i need to compile a kernal?	13:01
Luy1n	I'd suggest modprobe ziggyfish	13:01
Meerkat	ioria, I'll try a fresh install on a VM and see if that works for me. Thanks for looking into this.	13:02
Luy1n	ziggyfish: I think sudo modprobe ziggyfish CONFIG_SECCOMP_FILTER might do the trick, but I'm not sure	13:02
ioria	Meerkat, or maybe you need this to compile or install libsylpheed-plugins	13:02
Luy1n	not sure if it's a kernel module or something different. if different, my command won't work	13:02
ioria	!info libsylpheed-plugins	13:02
ubottu	Package libsylpheed-plugins does not exist in vivid	13:02
ioria	!info sylpheed-plugins	13:02
ubottu	sylpheed-plugins (source: sylpheed): Loadable modules for extending Sylpheed features. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4.2-0ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 7 kB, installed size 73 kB	13:02
ioria	Meerkat, sylpheed-plugins	13:03
zippo^	Which chat-client do you use?	13:03
Meerkat	will check it out	13:03
Strat	Friends: I have a directory containing images, let's call this directory "dirX". I need the images of this directory to be available in the applicatio nfor selecting background wallpapers. The background wallpapers is located at /usr/share/backgrounds/. However, I want to seperate my own wallpapers (as stored in dirX) from the default wallpapers (as provided in /usr/share/backgrounds/). How can I do this?	13:11
EriC^^	Strat: put them in ~/home/../Pictures/Wallpapers	13:11
Strat	EriC^^, tried that already, but to no success	13:16
Dannys	Hey guys wasn't sure where to go to ask a question like this but. Both my master and slave DNS server are returning a loopback (127.0.0.1) server address when I do an NSlookup on my zones (http://i.imgur.com/UZq0Mk9.jpg) does anyone know if this is normal?	13:17
Dannys	no sure if it's my configs or not	13:17
EriC^^	Strat: what are you actually trying to do?	13:18
wokay	Hey guys ! I'm trying to see if I can create a another partition on my hardisk , that is on /dev/sda , I'm doing this coz i'm experimenting with DRDB	13:19
barq	!eol	13:20
ubottu	End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades	13:20
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qwerkus	Hello, since the last auto-update on 15.10, gedit stopped working alltogether. The app won't start anymore; no errors dumped in the console. I tried reinstalling and deleting .conf/gedit - nothing seems to help. Is this a know bug ? Is there a workaround ?	13:25
teward	qwerkus: 15.10 isn't released, you need #ubuntu+1	13:26
teward	(the channel)	13:26
Guest79953	i got some problems with my bluetooth, my notebook does not even recognize the bluetooth device	13:26
Guest79953	i would be very grateful if anyone could help me	13:26
cfhowlett	qwerkus, using unreleased OS will always cause headaches but HEY! Thanks for volunteering to beta test!	13:27
qwerkus	sorry, I meant 15.04	13:27
qwerkus	vivid	13:27
Fred_Ohdx	Guys , may i ask why when editing test.txt , a test.txt~ is being generated ?	13:28
somsip	Fred_Ohdx: auto backup	13:28
Fred_Ohdx	But it kinda take space in hdd	13:29
Fred_Ohdx	is it safe to remove all ~ files ?	13:29
Strat	EriC^^, I want to have my custom wallpapers be accessible from the /usr/share/wallpapers/, without having to manually add them to that directory. Instead, I want a proxy directory in my ~/home folder where I can manage my downloaded, custom wallpapers. I want to seperate my custom wallpapers from those that are pre-installed, yet access them from the same directory by the system-settings-application	13:29
somsip	Fred_Ohdx: turn it off then. What editor?	13:29
pbx	Fred_Ohdx, if they're backups yes. don't worry about the space, it's negligible	13:29
Fred_Ohdx	gedit	13:29
somsip	Fred_Ohdx: probably a Preferences setting. If you have no open files, should be safe to delete	13:30
cfhowlett	Strat, su do cp .jpg /usr/share/wallpapers	13:30
cfhowlett	Strat, sudo	13:30
Fred_Ohdx	somsip : Alright thanks	13:30
Fred_Ohdx	pbx : i think i'll remove them anyway , thanks	13:31
barq	I did do-release-upgrade and it failed due to low disk space. Now if I run it again I get no new releases found but the version is still 13.10. How can I restart the do-release-upgrade after cleaning the hdd?	13:31
AbuDhar	hey.	13:32
AbuDhar	I can't wait till Ubuntu Touch really get its breakthrough :P	13:33
cfhowlett	!touch \| AbuDhar	13:33
ubottu	AbuDhar: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch	13:33
AbuDhar	we can't talk about it in here?	13:33
stevenm	Has anyone else noticed (on Ubuntu 14.04 - i'm personally using Ubuntu MATE) that Firefox is incredibly slower at connecting to sites than chrome?	13:34
AbuDhar	stevenm, no :P Firefox is faster for me.	13:34
stevenm	it's just the initial connection - actual data once established is a good rate	13:34
cfhowlett	AbuDhar, this is not the touch channel. go there or #ubuntu-offtopic	13:34
OerHeks	AbuDhar, in #ubuntu-touch please	13:34
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stevenm	but i don't think it's dns or chrome would suffer too	13:34
moppers	Hello. My system is unable to use its full monitor resolution. It's only giving me sizes up to 1080p. I have a 2560x1440 screen.	13:34
OerHeks	moppers, on what videocard and how connected? dvi/hdmi/dlink ?	13:35
Fred_Ohdx	pbx : is this safe to run find /home -name *~ -exec rm {} \; ?	13:35
moppers	OerHeks: It's an Nividia 770. I have tried DisplayPort and HDMI.	13:35
cfhowlett	!nvidia \| moppers	13:36
ubottu	moppers: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto	13:36
pbx	Fred_Ohdx, probably	13:36
moppers	cfhowlett: I have the 331.113 if that was what you were wanting me to do?	13:37
EriC^^	Fred_Ohdx: run it with echo before rm {} to see what it'll do	13:37
lotuspsychje	stevenm: tweak your overall system for a faster browsing	13:37
moppers	cfhowlett: Otherwise are you suggesting I build an xorg file?	13:37
EriC^^	Fred_Ohdx: and no	13:37
cfhowlett	moppers, nvidia prime	13:38
EriC^^	Fred_Ohdx: use -name "*~" -exec	13:38
Fred_Ohdx	EriC^^ : why	13:38
Fred_Ohdx	Ah thanks	13:38
cfhowlett	moppers, run the "additional drivers" utility	13:38
stevenm	does anyone have experience of this and doesn't just have vague guesses to offer?	13:38
lotuspsychje	stevenm: we cant smell from here whats your exact issue with firefox	13:39
lotuspsychje	!details \| stevenm	13:39
ubottu	stevenm: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)	13:39
moppers	cfhowlett: ctrl+F "prime". No hits in the document you linked. I don't understand what you are suggesting I do.	13:39
bijan_	Hi I got sending emails to work by installing sendmail. Now I want my webapp to send emails. What are the SMTP settings?	13:39
stevenm	lotuspsychje, i've elaborated as much as I can - want more specifics? ask a question	13:39
cfhowlett	moppers, run the "additional drivers" utility	13:39
bijan_	Is sendmail automatically enabling SMTP for this server?	13:40
mylord	is 15.04 x64 stable?	13:40
moppers	cfhowlett: I have, it's already using version 331	13:41
barq	I get Invalid operation do-release-upgrade when I do apt-get do-release-upgrade after the first attempt failed due to missing disk space. How can I continue the upgrade?	13:41
cfhowlett	barq, apt do-release-upgrade	13:41
cfhowlett	and you likely can't complete the upgrade as you're out of memory. clean instal	13:42
barq	Then I get Checking for a new Ubuntu release No new release found	13:43
barq	But cat /etc/lsb-release is still 13.10	13:43
bijan_	mylord: are you going to use ubuntu on the desktop or the server?	13:43
mylord	server	13:44
cfhowlett	barg in other words, your hot upgrade process has failed and should'nt be trusted.	13:44
EriC^^	barq: did you change the sources.list?	13:44
barq	Yes EriC^^	13:44
EriC^^	check /etc/upgrade-manager.... something .conf	13:44
barq	I changed them to saucy before doing the upgrade	13:44
barq	as stated in the eol page	13:44
EriC^^	barq: you need to put old-releases instead of archive	13:45
EriC^^	type cat /etc/apt/sources.list and paste it	13:45
waykool99	using ubuntu studio v14.04.2 LTS 64 bit. in Terminal, to Paste, Ctrl V doesn't work. other than using the mouse, might there be a keystroke command?	13:45
OerHeks	barq, 13.10 to 14.04 is supported, a while back you had a PROXY error ...	13:45
barq	The proxy error is gone now. Had an old link somewhere in the sources.	13:46
mylord	bijan_ server	13:46
k1l_	barq: please pastebin the actual sources.list	13:46
barq	Deleted everything and have the 4 sources only from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades	13:46
barq	with CODENAME=saucy	13:46
mylord	I'm looking for use LXC, as in : https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/getting-started-with-lxc-on-an-ubuntu-13-04-vps	13:46
k1l_	barq: and its not apt-get do-release-upgrade. its just "do-release-upgrade" prefaced with sudo	13:47
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barq	k1l_: That gives no new releases found	13:47
k1l_	barq: what gives /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades in the last line?	13:48
barq	Will check in a moment, need to reboot	13:50
bijan_	mylord: server => LTS	13:53
mylord	bijan_ so 14.4?	13:54
bijan_	mylord: absolutely	13:54
bijan_	mylord: servers shall be stable and secure	13:54
bijan_	mylord: if you are doing anything close to serious: LTS	13:55
mylord	bijan_ ubuntu is more geared for desktop tho, as compared to others? do you prefer other flavor for server, personally?	13:55
teward	mylord: it's equally capable of Desktop or Server	13:56
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teward	mylord: however you should use the Server installation images/ISOs instead of the Desktop ones	13:56
teward	mylord: as 'servers' tend to not need the GUI, etc. for the core functionality (and most administration is CLI based)	13:56
mylord	i'm using DigitalOcean, so I guess they use Server installs	13:56
teward	mylord: yes, they do.	13:57
teward	mylord: A prime example is at work here for me - the sysadmin prefers CentOS 6 systems, I prefer Debian/Ubuntu, and depending on who's setting up the *nix server VMs, unless a project calls for a specific OS we use whichever is most comfortable for use	13:57
teward	mylord: in my case, I prefer Debian/Ubuntu servers	13:58
teward	mylord: and if using Ubuntu on my servers I only stick to LTS releases	13:58
teward	(so 14.04)	13:58
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freeone3000	I have a monitor connected through HDMI, but my computer says the monitor is not connected through HDMI. xrandr seems to agree. What can I do to fix this?	14:05
lotuspsychje	freeone3000: did you try monitor on another pc?	14:09
barq	k1l_: Prompt=normal	14:09
barq	I guess it should be LTS?	14:09
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barq	Actually no, since 13.10 is not an lts version	14:11
kully3xf	how to generate a public certificate from my private certificate cer file	14:12
kully3xf	nevermind	14:14
OerHeks	kully3xf, ??? when you create a certificate, you make a public cacert.pem and cakey.pem (keep the key secret) https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/certificates-and-security.html	14:16
freeone3000	lotuspsychje: Yes. Works fine under Windows.	14:18
lotuspsychje	freeone3000: maybe try arandr?	14:18
lotuspsychje	!info arandr \| freeone3000	14:19
ubottu	freeone3000: arandr (source: arandr): Simple visual front end for XRandR. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.7.1-1 (vivid), package size 66 kB, installed size 507 kB	14:19
ilosamart	\quit	14:19
lotuspsychje	freeone3000: your graphics card driver also installed correctly?	14:19
freeone3000	lotuspsychje: Yes. What happened was this configuration worked. Then I unplugged the monitor. THen I restarted the computer. Then several days later, I plugged the monitor back in.	14:20
freeone3000	lotuspsychje: arandr is showing LVDS1 and no other monitors.	14:20
lotuspsychje	freeone3000: hmm weird, did you update recently?	14:22
freeone3000	lotuspsychje: Possibly.	14:22
lotuspsychje	freeone3000: maybe try a failsafeX from recoverymode, or a lightdm restart	14:22
prefixed	Can anyone in here think of a reason why the "find" command wouldn't list the same files upon multiple subsequent runs (minutes apart)? I'm seeing ~1% inconsistencies on ~42k files	14:23
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freeone3000	prefixed: Because the files changed?	14:23
khauenst_	prefixed: since most things in Linux are represented as files e.g. processes then if the scope of the find command included /proc it would not be surprising if small changes occurred	14:26
linx	hi	14:26
lotuspsychje	linx: welcome, how can we help you?	14:27
freeone3000	lotuspsychje: No change.	14:32
lotuspsychje	freeone3000: sure you didnt pushed out grafix card a bit out of mobo, or is this laptop?	14:34
freeone3000	lotuspsychje: It's a laptop.	14:35
freeone3000	One would think if my graphics card was not connected, I would have zero monitors, not one.	14:35
notmorpheus	Anyone know why attempting to read /bin/lesskey would hang (in Python, open() 'rb')?	14:36
lotuspsychje	freeone3000: can you doublecheck sudo lshw -C video if card model + =driver shows up?	14:36
lotuspsychje	notmorpheus: maybe the #python guys know this?	14:37
freeone3000	lotuspsychje: Looks like https://gist.github.com/freeone3000/f84ee33be2cd9e5f66db	14:37
notmorpheus	lotuspsychje: will check, thanks	14:37
OerHeks	sudo ubuntu-drivers list	14:38
freeone3000	OerHeks: empty line	14:39
lotuspsychje	freeone3000: do you know if your laptop has an nvidia or ati card, stronger then the intel one?	14:40
freeone3000	lotuspsychje: I do. It does not. This is a Thinkpad E531.	14:40
lotuspsychje	ok	14:40
ioria	freeone3000, try with sudo sudo lshw -c video	14:40
OerHeks	that command can take some time	14:41
freeone3000	ioria: Command was ran with sudo (and was included in the paste)	14:41
freeone3000	OerHeks: Yes. I get an empty line, and then see my prompt line. Command successfully completed and returned one line of blank output.	14:41
ioria	freeone3000, oh yeah	14:41
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lotuspsychje	freeone3000: can you see bios POST boot on your hdmi screen?	14:43
freeone3000	lotuspsychje: No.	14:43
lotuspsychje	freeone3000: then its not ubuntu related	14:43
EriC^^	laptop button maybe?	14:43
freeone3000	Which now that you mention it, is weird - I used to see it on both really awkwardly.	14:44
EriC^^	freeone3000: check the fn keys	14:44
lotuspsychje	freeone3000: yeah Fn + F5 or some	14:44
freeone3000	No effect.	14:45
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EriC^^	did you press the screen one?	14:45
freeone3000	EriC^^: Yes.	14:45
EriC^^	well obviously it's something hardware related	14:47
EriC^^	try wiggling the cables around check if they're plugged in the back of the display	14:47
freeone3000	Alright. I'll just use Windows, then, where this monitor works. Thanks.	14:47
EriC^^	maybe some bios setting shrug	14:47
EriC^^	you just said it doesnt work even with the bios?	14:47
freeone3000	EriC^^: So?	14:48
EriC^^	so it's not related to the os?	14:48
freeone3000	EriC^^: But it works on Windows, on the same laptop.	14:48
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EriC^^	you sure?	14:49
lotuspsychje	freeone3000: makes no sense, you should at least see post boot	14:49
jjjjjj	hi	14:49
freeone3000	lotuspsychje: Why would that be on both monitors?	14:49
EriC^^	freeone3000: have you tried it since it stopped showing the bios?	14:49
jjjjjj	d	14:49
jjjjjj	f	14:49
jjjjjj	s	14:49
freeone3000	EriC^^: Yes.	14:49
jjjjjj	ddd	14:49
jjjjjj	f	14:49
jjjjjj	'	14:49
jjjjjj	'	14:49
jjjjjj	'	14:49
freeone3000	IPv6. Nice.	14:50
EriC^^	freeone3000: type xrandr -q	14:50
freeone3000	EriC^^: https://gist.github.com/freeone3000/b53edefb1136fa48e0c5	14:51
EriC^^	freeone3000: try dmesg	14:52
EriC^^	unplug and plug it and check dmesg	14:52
=== lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje
garethdaine	Guys, how long should it take to wipe and reinstall a fresh Ubuntu server, only running Ubuntu 14.04 x64 on a machine with 16GB RAM?	14:54
freeone3000	EriC^^: Get nothing (well, some ATA stuff, but fairly sure that's my hard drive and is coincidental)	14:54
freeone3000	EriC^^: Are there such things as monitor drivers for HDMI?	14:54
tgm4883	freeone3000: there is EDID information, but that isn't specific to HDMI	14:55
lotuspsychje	garethdaine: ubuntu can be installed pretty quickly, ask the #ubuntu-server guys maybe	14:55
garethdaine	Thanks lotuspsychje: I’ve asked our dedicated host to wipe the server and install only a fresh copy of Ubuntu 14.04 x64 and they are saying it’s 4 hours chargable work	14:56
nils_	garethdaine: they're trying to screw you.	14:56
lotuspsychje	garethdaine: too long for sure,	14:56
tgm4883	yea	14:56
tgm4883	it should take like 30 minutes tops	14:57
ki7mt	garethdaine, I'd find a new host, thats extortion.	14:57
tgm4883	including post install setup so you can access it	14:57
garethdaine	I knew that for ceratin, especially when you can spin up a VPS server in seconds.	14:57
nils_	I have an ansible task that performs the same in 10-15 minutes, most of which is spent waiting for downloads/reboots etc.	14:57
EriC^^	freeone3000: my guess is that something isn't right, and windows can somehow turn the hdmi thing in your laptop on	14:57
EriC^^	or something like that	14:57
tgm4883	garethdaine: which host?	14:58
freeone3000	EriC^^: Yeah. I'll look through what else changed to figure out why Ubuntu can't. Thanks.	14:58
EriC^^	freeone3000: try pressing the fn key again for the screen, make sure it's being pressed right no fn maybe or something	14:59
lotuspsychje	freeone3000: maybe doublecheck bios again too, anything VGA related	14:59
freeone3000	...It's HDMI...	14:59
EriC^^	check dmesg again maybe something showed up this time, tinker around	14:59
lotuspsychje	freeone3000: i know, but there must be a problem to find somewhere	14:59
garethdaine	UKFast	14:59
lotuspsychje	lol fast	15:00
tgm4883	freeone3000: just because it's HDMI and not VGA doesn't mean someone didn't name something stupidly when programing the BIOS interface	15:00
garethdaine	lol	15:01
mimmo	hi	15:02
garethdaine	The Ubunutu server folks are saying it could very well take 4 hours to install	15:02
garethdaine	they probably have to do things at the datacenter to make the revisions - network reconfiguration, configuration for networking, etc.	15:02
garethdaine	depending on what all they ahve to do over at the datacenter it could very well be 4 hours of work for them	15:02
garethdaine	That was the response	15:02
garethdaine	Seems odd to me	15:02
nils_	well yeah	15:02
nils_	You could always take longer.	15:03
tgm4883	garethdaine: that isn't entirely what they said	15:03
sloantothebone	Ugh I have multiple "system problem program detected" dialogs	15:04
lotuspsychje	sloantothebone: what does the details say?	15:04
sloantothebone	No details "do you want to report the problem?"	15:05
OerHeks	press yes, then you will get the detail option	15:05
tgm4883	sloantothebone: which is where you get the details ;)	15:05
ki7mt	garethdaine, I suppose it all depends on when the clock starts as to how long it takes, ticket submission to finished notification ( which included queue time etc) could take 4 hours, but I'd find it odd that it takes 4 hours for the imaging portion.	15:06
sloantothebone	When I click report it asks for my password and thats it	15:06
tgm4883	ki7mt: queue time wouldn't be billable	15:06
sloantothebone	You've never seen this error before?? I hope it isnt a virus	15:06
ki7mt	tgm4883, I would not think so, no.	15:07
sloantothebone	Do you need a screenshot?	15:07
garethdaine	tgm4883: What you mean, that’s what I copied directly from chat	15:07
lotuspsychje	sloantothebone: no, we need more details	15:07
sloantothebone	When I press cancel the dialog goes away, no password	15:07
tgm4883	<garethdaine> The Ubunutu server folks are saying it could very well take 4 hours to install	15:07
sloantothebone	The other button says exactly "Report problem..."	15:08
lotuspsychje	sloantothebone: find some errors in syslog or dmesg	15:08
sloantothebone	How do I do that?	15:08
tgm4883	garethdaine: that isn't what they said at all. They said that there were other possible things they would need to do outside of the install that could be billable. "network reconfiguration, configuration for networking, etc."	15:08
Pici	sloantothebone: if a process crashes and generates a file into /var/crash, then the crash handler will run and that is what is produces that dialog.	15:09
lotuspsychje	sloantothebone: dmesg in terminal, or manual browse with the log viewer icon (from dash)	15:09
garethdaine	tgm4883: Yeah, and that’s what the response was: depending on what all they ahve to do over at the datacenter ‘it could very well be 4 hours’ of work for them	15:09
tgm4883	garethdaine: 4 hours to install vs 4 hours to install, test and configure	15:10
sloantothebone	Ok I just found system log in the dash (im using ubuntu gnome btw)	15:10
tgm4883	garethdaine: those are 2 different things	15:10
garethdaine	Not suggesting they are mate	15:10
garethdaine	are the same that is	15:10
tgm4883	garethdaine: if you say so	15:10
garethdaine	So, installing a fresh server with network config etc could take 4 hours?	15:11
garethdaine	tgm4883: You seem to be being a bit funny for some reason fella, I’m only asking a question and quoting what the server folks said, not disputing any of it just clarifying and asking questions	15:12
Holzbein	hi	15:12
OerHeks	that 'etc' is a wide area ..	15:12
nils_	garethdaine: just out of curiosity, how much do they charge if you order a new server?	15:12
garethdaine	As in this request, or just signing up as a new customer?	15:12
tgm4883	garethdaine: Ok champ. Their point was that they could conceivably see a billable 4 hours, assuming that they had to install the OS, reconfigure networking (I'm assuming outside of the server), test the OS against unsupported hardware, diagnose faultly hardware, and possibly upgrade drivers and such	15:13
nils_	as a new customer.	15:13
tgm4883	Honestly, I still think 4 hours is a bit much, but I'd just go with a VPS over dedicated server anyway	15:13
ki7mt	garethdaine, The bottom line is, it doesn't' matter, if thats what they say the cost is, your stuck with their quote, but you should work with the Host folks to get the quote to a reasonable price before hand.	15:13
garethdaine	tgm4883: I get what you and they are saying	15:14
nils_	tgm4883: I'm the opposite in that regard, the amount of trouble I had with virtualised stuff...	15:14
tgm4883	garethdaine: also, is the quote for 4 hours, or a maximum of 4 hours?	15:14
tgm4883	nils_: doing what?	15:14
OerHeks	"you are back online in 4 hrs"	15:14
tgm4883	OerHeks: is that what he said? Because he said it was 4 billable hours	15:15
garethdaine	ki7mt: We’re locked in to a contract on the server and we’ve been with them for a while, plus it’s a manged service. It just seems excessive to me. tgm4883: It’s a quote for 4 hours work, whether it takes them 20 minutes or 4 hours.	15:15
Holzbein	i have a question:	15:15
garethdaine	nils_: Not entirely sure, can’t remember but usually around £360 to £440	15:15
Holzbein	weren't there siri-like features integrated in tomboy?	15:15
garethdaine	If I remember correctly	15:15
nils_	tgm4883: it's most often related to performance, especially with things like elasticsearch or redis.	15:16
ki7mt	garethdaine, Well, that's things which should be looked at before signing the contract, but, we dont' always think about those things first time around, but when it's up for re-newal, then you have some leverage :-)	15:17
tgm4883	garethdaine: what is the OS on it now?	15:18
garethdaine	It currently has cPanel on it and I believe it’s CentOS, so maybe that’s why. It’s from a previous developer in our company who for some reason wanted bloody cPanel on the server.	15:20
garethdaine	I’ll double check the OS because I’ve been using Digital Ocean	15:20
reisio	reason == idiocy	15:20
garethdaine	Haven’t used this server other than for backups	15:20
garethdaine	But DO is becoming slow, and upgrading the droplet increases response times, which is weird, so since we have a dedicated server we’re paying for I thought it good to clean it up, install Ubuntu and then provision the server myself	15:21
tgm4883	garethdaine: out of curiosity, how much is 4 billable hours?	15:21
garethdaine	£360	15:22
garethdaine	£75 an hour + VAT	15:22
nils_	+ VAT?	15:22
garethdaine	Just seems extortionate	15:22
ki7mt	Of course, tax man wants his curt too :-)	15:22
garethdaine	lol	15:22
ki7mt	.. cut ..	15:22
tgm4883	ki7mt: maybe tax man wants his Curt, you shouldn't judge	15:23
lotuspsychje	garethdaine: yea, if you dont do it yourself, its always gonna be more expensive	15:23
ki7mt	I'm not judging .. just stating a fact, tax is tax, somebody gotta pay and that's usually the buyer.	15:24
lotuspsychje	ki7mt: +1	15:24
tgm4883	ki7mt: I was making a joke on the tax man wanting a guy named Curt ;)	15:25
garethdaine	Think tgm4883 was joking because of your spelling mistake	15:25
garethdaine	lol	15:25
ki7mt	Yeah, probably, I'm good a Typo's :-)	15:25
garethdaine	:-)	15:25
garethdaine	Anyway, thanks for the help folks, I appreciate it	15:25
nils_	I don't believe her Majesty wants Curt in her Court.	15:25
garethdaine	lol	15:26
ki7mt	Probabaly not, but, there's always a chance :-) .. anyways, this has gone way OT ..	15:26
or-dvh_	i've posted a question on askubuntu (http://askubuntu.com/questions/653038/how-can-i-access-a-broken-ubuntu-14-04-file-system) -- would appreciate any advice folks here can give me.	15:31
Dannys	Hey guys wasn't sure where to go to ask a question like this but. Both my master and slave DNS server are returning a loopback (127.0.0.1) server address when I do an NSlookup on my zones (http://i.imgur.com/UZq0Mk9.jpg) does anyone know if this is normal?	15:32
reisio	more like a broken aws	15:32
reisio	/msg alis list aws	15:32
reisio	Dannys: #networking?	15:32
sloantothebone	Um I just googled a bit and I'm going to try sudo rm /var/crash/*	15:33
Pici	sloantothebone: that works too :)	15:33
hexhaxtron	I'm using the File Upload dialog in Facebook but is it possible to see thumbnails above the filenames?	15:34
Neo9_	is there any affect by deleting /tmp files in linux?	15:36
reisio	course	15:36
reisio	well, effect, anyway	15:36
Neo9_	reisio: what type of effect?	15:37
tgm4883	Neo9_: why are you trying to delete files in /tmp	15:37
reisio	Neo9_: lots, it's data your OS has been or is using	15:39
reisio	hard to do much without temporary data	15:39
reisio	the _long term_ ramifications of deleting /tmp/ are very few	15:40
reisio	because they're in /tmp/, they're not essential	15:40
reisio	but they are used	15:40
tgm4883	but still, if you are deleting files from /tmp regularly, you're doing something wrong	15:40
freeone3000	Found my issue. Apparently someone swapped my nice, clean cable with an HDCP-complaint cable from cable storage, because "they're all the same, right?"	15:43
freeone3000	Thanks to all those helping.	15:43
reisio	freeone3000: yay coworkers...	15:43
reisio	I wonder if they even had a reason for taking your cable	15:43
reisio	at my work they don't even have reasons, their actions make zero sense	15:44
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lotuspsychje	reisio: not easy for a linux minded guy to work with zero-sense co-workers right	15:50
reisio	lotuspsychje: for anyone, but yeah probably moreso for linux minded, heh	15:51
reisio	used to have coworkers steal one of my two matching monitors at work	15:51
reisio	it didn't get them a matching set at all	15:51
reisio	no idea why they bothered	15:51
reisio	if I were going to steal monitors, I'd steal both of a matching set	15:51
lotuspsychje	reisio: join us at #ubuntu-discuss mate	15:51
reisio	and they'd take cables and replace them with the exact same cables, that actually did work	15:51
reisio	no idea why	15:51
reisio	's'okay :)	15:52
lotuspsychje	:p	15:52
daftykins	lol, HDCP cable - that's not even a thing	15:53
compdoc	HD Copyright Protection	15:54
reisio	if you can imagine a mediocrity, it's a thing :p	15:54
daftykins	no it's high-bandwidth digital content protection, but it's not cable dependant :P	15:54
black_13	what package do i need to add to be able to link agains librt?	15:54
tgm4883	daftykins: +1	15:55
ioria	black_13, -lrt not working ?	15:58
black_13	no	15:58
ioria	black_13, locate librt.so	15:59
Jad-C	I need a lot of help :(	15:59
lotuspsychje	Jad-C: start with 1 question?	16:00
Jad-C	(im typing it)	16:00
daftykins	heh.	16:01
black_13	ioria: http://codepad.org/iMuwMYnM	16:01
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Jad-C	I used Universal Installer to install Ubuntu 14.10 on a USB #1, I then opened up wubi.exe and used that to install on to a final USB #2 and I want it so I can just boot off USB #2 and have all my files from anywhere. Though, when I try to whole option on my mac ubuntu doesnt show up, and on windows it just says theres a missing file and I need to r	16:01
Jad-C	epair my computer, but my computer is fine.	16:01
Jad-C	hold*	16:01
daftykins	Jad-C: 14.10 is already end of line, no longer supported.	16:02
Jad-C	and with rEFInd it shows up but only boots into my windows bootcamp	16:02
ioria	black_13, are you ubuntu ???	16:02
noahmg123	how can I create a ssh key for a server?	16:02
daftykins	only 14.04 and 15.04 are good now	16:02
Jad-C	well	16:02
Jad-C	I thought I downloaded 15	16:02
Jad-C	but when I installed it showed 14.10	16:02
Jad-C	I thought that meant 15	16:02
black_13	ioria: yes lts 14.x	16:02
daftykins	Jad-C: we don't support WUBI, it should never be used.	16:02
pedro_	ola	16:02
Jad-C	really?	16:03
Jad-C	What do I use then?	16:03
pedro_	ola	16:03
daftykins	yes, it's absolutely terrible	16:03
lotuspsychje	!es \| pedro_	16:03
ubottu	pedro_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.	16:03
Jad-C	My mistake	16:03
Jad-C	didn't know	16:03
genii	Gah, wubi	16:03
Jad-C	I have Ubuntu 15 iso	16:03
Jad-C	and 2 usbs	16:03
Jad-C	what do I do	16:03
daftykins	Jad-C: well what are you tring to achieve? you want a flash drive install for use on a mac?	16:03
Jad-C	and Universal Installer	16:03
cowbacon	noahmg123: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys	16:03
Jad-C	Okay, so what I'm trying to achieve is	16:03
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Jad-C	making it so I have 1 usb that I can go to any computer (mainly windows, though) and boot off of and it has all my files on it already	16:03
daftykins	ah so treating it like a portable session, mmm	16:04
Jad-C	yes.	16:04
ioria	black_13, dpkg --print-foreign-architectures	16:04
Jad-C	I just waited 1 hour for wubi.exe for nothing xD	16:04
daftykins	makes more sense to have said files in a cloud service like dropbox then just access them from a browser in my opinion?	16:04
daftykins	Jad-C: would that not be viable?	16:04
Jad-C	I would constantly have to keep downloading them to the usb then, right?	16:05
daftykins	not if you had the client installed	16:05
Jad-C	I need to run games mobily	16:05
black_13	i366	16:05
daftykins	games? what games?	16:05
Jad-C	Minecraft... Steam, etc.	16:05
Jad-C	Mostly Minecraft though	16:05
daftykins	you're never gonna fit steam games on a flash drive	16:05
rimdeker	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI	16:05
Jad-C	not that resource instensive	16:05
philip	is it adviceable to install ubuntu desktop on a ubuntu server	16:06
ioria	black_13, did you install build-essential , yes ?	16:06
daftykins	philip: no	16:06
black_13	i am pretty sure i did let me check	16:06
Jad-C	i've done this before, and it worked, but I don't remember how...	16:06
daftykins	philip: but then what are you doing? GUIs don't belong on servers really.	16:06
philip	why please	16:06
daftykins	!persistence \| Jad-C maybe you did this?	16:07
ubottu	Jad-C maybe you did this?: To have some persistent storage when using a Live CD, follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence	16:07
tgm4883	philip: what are you trying to do? Have a GUI on a server, or convert a server to a desktop?	16:07
Jad-C	is that what im supposed to do?	16:07
black_13	ioria: http://codepad.org/oeuC2hLX	16:07
daftykins	Jad-C: i'm just suggesting you may have done that before	16:07
philip	for graphic usage.	16:07
Jad-C	I think I have	16:07
Jad-C	but I don't remember using CMD...	16:08
tgm4883	philip: that doesn't really explain anything	16:08
daftykins	philip: but what kind of server?	16:08
Jad-C	isn't there persistance in universal usb installer?	16:08
philip	ubuntu server 14.04	16:08
xangua	philip: so you don't want a server, but a desktop OS¿	16:08
daftykins	philip: if it's a VPS from someone like digitalocean, amazon, then installing a GUI is extremely silly	16:08
philip	i want the server i only want a graphic interface on the ubuntu server	16:09
Jad-C	...?	16:09
ioria	black_13, ok ... you just have the links ... but not the libs ... you can check yourself with ls -l	16:09
blydro	philip: if you really want that than maybe try something like fluxbox	16:09
tgm4883	philip: is this on hardware you own?	16:10
black_13	not the dev libs?	16:10
philip	yes but its just a test	16:11
Jad-C	daftykins: should I just use that persistant link to do it?	16:11
philip	i use this command sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop on the ubuntu server	16:11
tgm4883	philip: ok, so installing ubuntu server then installing ubuntu desktop is no different than just installing ubuntu desktop	16:11
daftykins	philip: so if ou wanted it why did you install server in the first place o0	16:12
daftykins	*ou	16:12
daftykins	*you	16:12
philip	okay thank you..iyts just a test	16:12
blydro	maybe start with a smaller wm?	16:12
ioria	black_13, that's my output of locate http://paste.ubuntu.com/11949046/	16:12
philip	but with this , i can sudo apt-get uninstall ubuntu-desktop bacl to normalcy	16:12
Jad-C	anyone??	16:12
Jad-C	i assume so	16:13
Jad-C	cya	16:13
daftykins	philip: nope	16:13
tgm4883	philip: not exactly that easy	16:13
black_13	i wonder what i missed	16:14
black_13	it seems like i missed something	16:14
philip	will only to reinstall right	16:14
tgm4883	philip: why do you need a GUI?	16:14
ioria	black_13, uname -r	16:15
black_13	3.19.0-23-generic	16:16
black_13	i need a new kernel	16:16
black_13	or do i need a new kernel	16:16
ioria	black_13, i don't think so	16:16
ioria	black_13, what are you doing exactly ?	16:18
black_13	i am trying to compile the examples from the book "Programming with POSIX Threads"	16:19
ioria	black_13, you should need only -lpthread	16:20
black_13	the code was here https://github.com/hailinzeng/Programming-POSIX-Threads	16:20
ioria	black_13, whick in particolar ?	16:20
ioria	*which	16:21
black_13	semaphore_signal.c	16:22
philip	running ubuntu desktop as a server, what will be the side of using it	16:23
philip	running ubuntu desktop as a server, what will be the disadvantage of using this	16:24
philip	running ubuntu desktop as a server, what will be the disadvantage of using this	16:24
ioria	black_13, seems ok ...	16:24
blydro	philip: what kind of server?	16:25
black_13	who do you mean	16:25
black_13	how do you mean rather	16:25
philip	ubuntu server	16:25
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blydro	do you mean ssh server? http server?	16:26
daftykins	philip: if you want to learn server administration, you should not ruin it with a GUI. you will not see a GUI on a proper server	16:26
daftykins	not anywhere	16:26
whallz	how to know which app is executing on scrot key press?	16:26
whallz	not sure if it's feh or gnome-screenshot	16:26
ioria	black_13, that semaphore_signal.c compiles and works	16:27
whallz	lol it's xfce4 Screenshooter	16:29
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ioria	black_13, did you link with -lrt -pthread ?	16:29
rypervenche	philip: Running a server with a GUI is for those who do not know how to administrate a server.	16:30
daftykins	^+1 and don't want to learn	16:30
daftykins	and they still won't be able to drive it ;)	16:30
whallz	rypervenche: is there something like orca-cli ?	16:32
daftykins	!find orca	16:32
ubottu	Found: gnome-orca, ngorca	16:32
black_13	ioria: what kind of machine do you have?	16:32
fxmulder	non-lts releases are supported for less than a year?	16:32
rypervenche	whallz: What are you trying to do?	16:33
daftykins	fxmulder: mostly yep	16:33
ioria	black_13, normal desktop , why ?	16:33
daftykins	fxmulder: it's all about sticking to LTS unless your hardware is exotic/new and needs newer support.	16:33
whallz	rypervenche: no, i mean, how can a blind person use CLI ?	16:33
black_13	i think that is what i have	16:33
whallz	rypervenche: i know its contradictory for a blind person to use a GUI, but there are accesibility tools on GUI, not sure for CLI	16:34
black_13	what command line did you used to compile the prog?	16:34
rypervenche	whallz: I don't know. I'm not blind. I'm not familiar iwth the softwares for the blind.	16:34
ioria	black_13, the usual gcc -o semaphore semaphore.c -lrt -lpthread	16:35
whallz	rypervenche: so what about a blind person who uses GUI to sysadmin because he uses some aid that's written on top of GUI, is he not willing to learn CLI ?	16:35
black_13	that is what i did	16:35
rypervenche	whallz: I am not talking about blind people. My response was not directed to you, but to philip.	16:36
FAalbers	Hello , does anyone know how I can have apt-get search for a package in Wily instead of Trusty ?	16:36
ioria	black_13, yep, as i said , seems that you don't have those libs ... just the links to them	16:37
tgm4883	FAalbers: why?	16:37
whallz	ypervenche: right. sorry for being intrusive. i just find those statements to be kinda arrogant :)	16:37
black_13	you know i wonder if had used the wrong setup i think i used the amd setup not i386	16:37
whallz	rypervenche: npi	16:37
FAalbers	tgm4883, Because Trusty has openocd v0.7.0 while Wily has v0.9.0	16:37
moat_joe	I'm having an issue with one of the ubuntu provided ec2 ami's, anyone know a good place to start/person to talk to?	16:38
tgm4883	FAalbers: are you planning on upgrading to Wily if it has it?	16:38
tgm4883	!info openocd	16:38
ubottu	openocd (source: openocd): Open on-chip JTAG debug solution for ARM and MIPS systems. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.0-4 (vivid), package size 1941 kB, installed size 5264 kB	16:38
FAalbers	tgm4883, Does that mean EVERYTHING needs to upgraded to Wily ?	16:38
luist	how do i create RAID partitions after they removed the alternative cds!?!??!!?	16:38
tgm4883	FAalbers: let me cut to the chase. Don't install wily packages on trusty	16:39
rypervenche	whallz: Not arrogant. If you are running a server, you should not be using a GUI. All the tools you need are available (and are usually more useful) on the command line. Any big company will not have GUI-enabled servers.	16:39
AbuDhar	is bazaar dead?	16:39
tgm4883	rypervenche: +1	16:39
FAalbers	tgm4883, OK , So , my Ubuntu version has openocd 0.7.0 , how do I get 0.9.0 then ?	16:39
FAalbers	tgm4883, Just do it through a zip file ?	16:40
whallz	rypervenche: i know that, but you may 'know how to administrate a server' and still prefer (or need) to use GUI	16:40
tgm4883	FAalbers: see if the devs of openocd have a recommended solution for putting it on trusty, see if there is a ppa available, build from source	16:40
tgm4883	whallz: rypervenche is this relevant to the channel at all?	16:41
rypervenche	whallz: Then you are not a good admin, and that is an entirely different story. Regardless, I will stop talking about this, as it is veering into off-topic.	16:41
FAalbers	tgm4883, I'm affraid my knowledgs is rather limitted on ppa and build from source. Could you suggest some reading material to bring me up to date ?	16:41
black_13	loria what do you have installed	16:42
black_13	this is a dell laptop	16:42
FAalbers	tgm4883, And thank you so much for your time :)	16:42
ioria	black_13, mmm... not sure is relevant	16:43
whallz	rypervenche: :)	16:43
black_13	its junk machine i do things : Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU P9700 @ 2.80GHz × 2	16:43
tgm4883	FAalbers: according to the devs, looks like they say build from source "Note that this may be an old version, so you may be better off building from source."	16:43
tgm4883	FAalbers: I don't know of any good resources, but here is one http://www.howtogeek.com/105413/how-to-compile-and-install-from-source-on-ubuntu/	16:44
ioria	black_13, it's not junk :)	16:44
black_13	fair enoug	16:45
black_13	enough	16:45
FAalbers	thanks tgm4883 , will read up on all that first	16:45
FAalbers	tgm4883, before asking too many stupid questions :)	16:45
levo	how can I directly go to display :1? currently i'm using vnc :1 to view it from :0 .but i want to be able to see it natively	16:45
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black_13	i noticed something there is no /lib32	16:45
rypervenche	levo: ctrl+alt+F8 ? Try that. Any of the F7 through F12	16:45
ioria	yep	16:46
black_13	but /lib64	16:46
levo	rypervenche: didn't work	16:46
black_13	this may be silly but i am going to reinstall	16:46
rypervenche	levo: You're running two X sessions, correct? One on :0 and one on :1.	16:46
levo	rypervenche: yes two different instances of lxde	16:47
levo	or lxpanel dunno	16:47
ioria	black_13, a little bit :P	16:47
black_13	for the last 5 years well last 8 i have been coding on windows	16:48
black_13	but it seems that the c++ coding is now being dong on linux	16:48
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faustinoluiz	Fala ae	16:55
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faustinoluiz	TEm alguém ai?	16:56
xangua	!pt \| faustinoluiz	16:56
ubottu	faustinoluiz: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.	16:56
ioria	black_13, are you there ?	17:02
spartan2276	How can I get my Ubuntu 12.04LTS Clients to see my upgraded 14.04LTS server?	17:02
spartan2276	I had samba installed on the 12.04LTS server prior to upgrading to 14.04LTS but now the 12.04 desktops can't connect	17:03
spartan2276	and when they do try the password prompt comes up but no matter what the server wont allow them to see the files in the samba shares	17:04
whoami	hello!	17:04
whoami	any programmer here?	17:06
xangua	!ask	17:06
ubottu	Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience	17:06
spartan2276	here is my /etc/samba/smb.conf file http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11949320/	17:06
spartan2276	So prior to the upgrade of the server this was all working fine :(	17:07
phoenixstew	spartan2276, so some clients can connect but face the password issue? or it works intermittently for all clients?	17:09
spartan2276	phoenixstew: No no one can connect, even when they enter their username and pass nothing	17:10
phoenixstew	spartan2276, timing out, refusing?	17:12
spartan2276	refusing	17:12
spartan2276	phoenixstew, I tried purging samba and reconfiguring but nothing	17:12
davennh	msg cjohnston if you haven't put the order in yet, yeah, that would be a lot easier :)	17:13
OerHeks	smbstatus	17:15
Pici	spartan2276: you may want to consider looking at https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_4.0_Features_added/changed#Samba_4.0 , since 12.04 had samba3, but 14.04 is on samba4	17:19
spartan2276	OerHeks, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11949396/	17:20
spartan2276	Pici, I'm not using it as DC just as a file sharing tool	17:21
spartan2276	Pici, no there are no windows PC	17:22
spartan2276	Pici, just Ubuntu PCs/Server	17:22
ioria	spartan2276, usually i start again with a new smb.conf	17:28
spartan2276	ioria, how can I wipe it out?	17:28
spartan2276	ioria, sudo apt-get remove --purge samba* ?	17:29
Pici	spartan2276: security = share is deprecated. You'll need to replace it with security = user	17:29
ioria	spartan2276, you don't, you backup it like cp smb.conf smab.conf_1	17:29
ioria	spartan2276, you don't, you backup it like cp smb.conf smb.conf_1	17:29
Pici	spartan2276: the other options that you have there should work.	17:29
ioria	spartan2276, no, just the smb.conf not the program	17:29
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spartan2276	ioria, yup I completely broke it	17:34
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ioria	spartan2276, what you broke ?	17:34
spartan2276	ioria, so I deleted the smb.conf file and then created a new one but now samba wont start	17:34
ioria	spartan2276, reverse it	17:35
ioria	spartan2276, why did you delete it ? i said back up	17:36
spartan2276	ioria, I did back it up	17:36
spartan2276	ioria, ok it started now	17:36
ioria	spartan2276, good :P	17:36
Yaiyan	Can anyone recommend any nice irc clients?	17:38
spartan2276	ioria, but now the smb.conf is empty	17:38
Yaiyan	Xchat-gnome was nice, but didn't work with ZNC	17:38
teward	Yaiyan: Hexchat	17:38
Yaiyan	And hexchat is ugly as...:(	17:38
teward	Yaiyan: irssi (CLI)	17:38
teward	Yaiyan: but this isn't a software recommendation channel, really.	17:38
Yaiyan	I guess	17:38
Yaiyan	Don't really know where else to ask for ubuntu irc clients though :p	17:38
Cauterize	I am personally using Weechat right now. I like it.	17:39
Yaiyan	I'll look that up, cheers	17:39
spartan2276	ioria, is there a clean sample of the smb.conf somewhere?	17:40
Yaiyan	Just gutted xchat-gnome doesn't like znc :/	17:40
EriC^^	huh	17:40
EriC^^	it works fine	17:40
Yaiyan	With ssl	17:40
DJones	Yaiyan: You should have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat that lists a few to try	17:40
Yaiyan	DJones, will do, thanks :)	17:40
zeromon_	what is the main concept of snappy ubuntu core?	17:41
ioria	spartan2276, in any case copy and save this http://paste.ubuntu.com/11949492/	17:41
zeromon_	Does the Ubuntu remove apt-get?	17:42
jpds	zeromon_: Sorry?	17:42
EriC^^	!snaooy	17:42
EriC^^	!snappy	17:42
ubottu	Ubuntu Core is a rendition of Ubuntu with transactional updates using "snappy". For discussion and support, please visit #snappy and see http://www.ubuntu.com/snappy/	17:42
hohum	is there a way to tell the ssh client to explicitly not use my keys? I'm trying to log into a broken device that crashes every time its presented with an SSH key.	17:45
jpds	hohum: ssh -i /dev/null	17:46
Pici	spartan2276: did you try the suggestion I gave you?	17:47
Pici	/36/36	17:47
philip	hardware RAID and software RAID which is better	17:47
jpds	philip: Both have their advantages and disadvantages	17:47
jpds	philip: If one was for certain better, everyone would be using it	17:47
philip	which is more preferred	17:48
jpds	philip: Again, depends on your use case	17:48
spartan2276	Pici, yes	17:48
rimdeker	Anybody here using VNC to connect to their mac? My VNC connection over LAN is painfully slow :/	17:48
rimdeker	TeamViewer flies by comparison	17:48
compdoc	rimdeker, you might look into x2go	17:48
philip	mostly adding new harddisk after used one is getting full	17:49
spartan2276	ioria, nope same results. All I get is the damn password login and it keeps refusing	17:49
jpds	philip: You're using RAID 5?	17:49
philip	yes raid 5	17:50
rimdeker	compdoc: Alright, will look into it. Thanks	17:50
ioria	spartan2276, which smb.conf are you using ?	17:50
spartan2276	ioria, the one you gave me	17:50
ioria	spartan2276, that's a model it's not configured	17:50
ioria	spartan2276, you have to edit it, according to your needs	17:51
philip	yes raid 5	17:52
spartan2276	ioria, um ok all I need it for is so that the ubuntu 12.04 clients can browse the server and connect to the shares	17:52
spartan2276	ioria, well I added my previous shares	17:52
ioria	spartan2276, did you make a backup file, this time ?	17:53
spartan2276	ioria, yes	17:53
ioria	spartan2276, before editing, i mean ?	17:53
spartan2276	ioria, yes	17:55
ioria	spartan2276, so we are sure that you have a backup of the original file ?	17:55
spartan2276	ioria, yes	17:55
ioria	spartan2276, sudo cp smb.conf smb.conf_backup	17:57
philip	jpds: raid 5	17:57
philip	hardware RAID and software RAID which is better	17:57
spartan2276	ioria, done	17:58
ioria	spartan2276, sudo nano smb.conf and add at the end this http://paste.ubuntu.com/11949584/	17:58
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spartan2276	ioria,	18:00
spartan2276	ioria, done	18:00
ioria	spartan2276, in your home make a dir mkdir sambafiles, for example	18:00
spartan2276	ioria, I have to run to a meeting, not sure if you'll be around thanks for your help	18:01
ioria	spartan2276, ok	18:02
philip	hardware RAID and software RAID which is better	18:02
spartan2276	ioria, on some of the bookmarks in nautilus this is the error they all get Could not display "smb://server3122-01/grievance-logs/"	18:07
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matha	Greetings, I have never had a smartphone and want to get one that I can utilize well with my Ubuntu desktop. I don't even really know the territory of what to look for or what is important. Only that I of course want to be able to share files between the two. Does any one have any suggestions?	18:09
xangua	matha: any android smartphone	18:09
xangua	you should be able to mount any android 4+ device	18:10
ioria	spartan2276, anyway you can retrieve your original smb.conf from your paste : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11949320/	18:10
fgfdgfdsg	hi	18:10
fgfdgfdsg	anyone use dual monitors?	18:10
fgfdgfdsg	and google hangouts?	18:10
ioria	spartan2276, you can'use it now, it's not complete	18:11
Fodd	Hey guys. I'm new to Ubuntu, been running it for a few months and havent really played around with it.	18:11
Fodd	I've got a few bugs with it. as in, facebook uploader and channel 4 on demand.	18:11
spartan2276	ioria, but that was the same issue they were having before I created the new smb.conf	18:12
Fodd	Can someone suggest an app for facebook uploader?	18:12
ioria	spartan2276, i think so... but it's better to have a copy of the previous file you used	18:12
spartan2276	ioria, yup I have it	18:13
duval	HELLO	18:13
ioria	spartan2276, what you wanna do ?	18:14
reisio	'lo duval	18:14
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spartan2276	ioria, well I rather keep the new file	18:14
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DonaldPang	anyone here can help with setting up dual monitors?	18:15
AbuDhar	yes	18:15
squinty_	!details	18:15
ubottu	Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)	18:15
AbuDhar	what's the problem?	18:15
ioria	spartan2276, no, i mean do you want to go on ?	18:15
spartan2276	ioria, sure. I got 15mins	18:16
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matha	xangua: thank you, I've read various forum posts about MTP, PTP, wireless connections do those things still apply or just old posts?	18:16
ioria	spartan2276, in your home make a dir mkdir sambafiles, for example	18:16
xangua	matha: define old post, how old¿ Ubuntu supports mounting android 4+ devices via mtp since 12.10	18:17
spartan2276	ioria, ok done	18:17
ioria	spartan2276, what 's the name ?	18:17
philip	hardware RAID and software RAID which is better	18:18
spartan2276	ioria, sambafiles	18:18
ioria	spartan2276, /home/<user>/sambafiles ?	18:18
spartan2276	ioria, yes	18:19
ioria	spartan2276, chmod -R 0755 sambafiles	18:19
spartan2276	ioria, done	18:20
matha	xangua: a post from april 2013 describing MTP support with Linux as "several shades of sucky"	18:20
ioria	spartan2276, we start with an anonymous share to check if it's working ... chown -R nobody:nogroup sambafiles	18:20
xangua	matha: not a post from 2015 then¿	18:21
matha	no	18:22
spartan2276	ioria, ok	18:22
matha	i did not find any more recent posts... because the issue is now irrelevent?	18:22
ioria	spartan2276, now sudo nano smb.conf and append this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/11949713/	18:22
ioria	spartan2276, replace user with your user	18:23
naftilos76	Hi is there a tool that guides through the graphics and lcd best settings by probing or whatever other way?	18:24
spartan2276	ioria, ok done	18:25
ioria	spartan2276, can you paste smb.conf ?	18:25
xangua	matha: as I told you already, there is No Issue, zero, nada	18:25
spartan2276	ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11949739/	18:26
spartan2276	ioria, damn I have to go to that meeting now, I'll be back	18:27
ioria	spartan2276, well, i said to add the new sections, you replaced one	18:27
philip	hardware RAID and software RAID which is better	18:27
matha	xangua: thank you	18:27
ioria	spartan2276, but it's ok	18:28
drmagoo	philip: proper hardware raid is the better option. Softwareraid puts "load" on the cpu	18:29
philip	four harddisk drive is raid 5 better	18:32
drmagoo	philip: depends on what your aim is. But raid5 is a good option	18:33
philip	okay thank you.Installing ubuntu server	18:33
ubuntu299	kjl	18:37
ubuntu299	how can i add a item to startup	18:37
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arooni-mobile	hey everyone; was considering buying a 500GB crucial bx100 for my lenovo t420; but it looks like sometimes people have an error 2100 and the laptop can't recognize the drive. https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/38yumb/lenovo_thinkpad_t420_ssd_error_2100_at_bootup/ ... should i be concerned?	18:38
dk`	Hi	18:42
squinty_	ubuntu299, there should be a "Startup Applications" on your system... then add/remove/edit	18:43
dk`	how to usr tar rvf command to append one mode directory using single command I have abc.tgz , I am trying follwing gzip -d abc.tgz \| tar rvf - directory/ but its not working ?	18:43
dk`	any idea?	18:43
dk`	final outcome should be abc.tgz again .	18:44
zumba_addict	we got a new installation of 12.0.4. I would like to run this -> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade so I can update some of the tools like git. That should be fine right?	18:45
dk`	any idea ?	18:45
faLUCE	hello. I have an usb external drive with hfsplus filesystem. It happens quite often that I have to perform fsck -r on it (they happens often errors on writing or when it is not correctly unmounted)... is there a way to trigger generic errors on this /media/mydevice so to launch automatically fsck ?	18:45
xangua	zumba_addict: you wont get any new major updates in Ubuntu, just security updates	18:46
zumba_addict	oh	18:46
zumba_addict	i just wanted to make sure the tools are updated	18:46
squinty_	zumba_addict, yes but also run sudo apt-get update before running the second command	18:46
zumba_addict	we have apache on it. Will it be affected squinty_?	18:46
julian-delphiki	dk`: What exactly are you trying to accomplish? A tar.gz of a directory?	18:47
squinty_	zumba_addict, no idea never have run apache.	18:47
Trab	is there a way to tell why/where ubuntu would be blocking something outbound? I checked IPtables/ufw and there's no rules that should be blocking it, so I'm guessing it's somewhere else	18:47
zumba_addict	which is proper? (A) sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade or (B) sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	18:48
dk`	julian-delphiki: nope, I already have tgz would like to add one more directory	18:48
squinty_	zumba_addict, both if you want to keep your system up to date.	18:48
zumba_addict	k	18:48
Pici	zeromon_: you need to run "sudo apt-get update", but you can choose whether you want to do an upgrade or a dist-upgrade (although I highly suggest always doing the latter)	18:49
squinty_	zumba_addict, security and kernel updates will come via dist-upgrade	18:49
zumba_addict	got it	18:49
zumba_addict	i think my letter (B) is wrong	18:49
zumba_addict	I think it should be sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	18:49
Pici	aye	18:50
squinty_	yes	18:50
zumba_addict	k	18:50
dk`	julian-delphiki: any hint ?	18:50
julian-delphiki	dk`: I can't say I've ever done that. I don't recommend doing it that way.	18:51
julian-delphiki	I usually move all the things into a sub folder and then create the tar once.	18:51
HalfEatenPie_	info	18:52
HalfEatenPie_	os[Linux 2.6.32-39-pve x86_64] distro[Debian 7.8] cpu[8 x Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1230 v3 @ 3.30HHz (GenuieIIntel) @ 3.29GHz] mem[Physical: 7.8GB, 61.0% free] disk[Total: 893.9GB, 96.5% free] video[ASPEED Technology, Inc. ASPEED Graphics Family] sound[PC-Speaker - pcsp]	18:52
zumba_addict	so if I would like to update the packages and security updates, the complete command would be sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	18:52
zumba_addict	am I right squinty_?	18:52
dk`	julian-delphiki: ok so what you suggest. my goal is to add directory new/ to abc.tgz and make it tgz again.	18:53
dk`	julian-delphiki: in single line	18:53
ponyofdeath	hi, trying to have a directory in /var/run/ exist and be owned by a certain user, should i be putting its setup in rc.local or is there a better place for it?	18:54
julian-delphiki	dk`: this isn't really an ubuntu support question. Maybe try posting on http://askubuntu.com/ or something?	18:55
squinty_	#bash	18:55
dk`	julian-delphiki: ok	18:55
squinty_	dk, ^^	18:55
kro2488	So I was reading that with windows 10 and probably from then on, microsoft may be deciding to make it harder to install other os on computers that come with windows preinstalled. What do you guys think?	18:57
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squinty_	zumba_addict, personally I run the dist-upgrade first and then reboot if necessary (ie kernel update) and then again if necessary, run the upgrade. others views might vary. you could also just wait for the Software Updater icon to appear and forget about terminal altogether though	18:58
zumba_addict	it's in Amazon	18:59
zumba_addict	it's an EC2 instance	18:59
squinty_	kro2488, not the channel try ubuntu-offtopic	18:59
zumba_addict	it's currently running sudo apt-get upgrade	18:59
squinty_	zumba_addict, speaking of which new kernel came through rebooting bye for now	19:00
mestralx	hey guys, I am using different distro(mint). I can't start skype, when i enter skype command into terminal it says only 'aborted'	19:00
squinty_	!mint	19:00
ubottu	Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org	19:00
mestralx	second issue is chrome can't load wiki pages /aw snap error/	19:01
zumba_addict	:)	19:01
squinty_	mestralx, mint is not supported here	19:01
mestralx	squinty_ i can't get help there and mint is a derivative.	19:01
momo_	hi there i need some assistance i freshly installed ubuntu alongside windows 7, when i clicked on a file depicting a key typing in my password , somehow all files inside the personal folder got lost as well as the files on my desktop, at the same time i updated applications and shortly after a window popped up concering ecryptfs and how i could generate a password . I dont remember what the file was called that i clicked on :(.	19:01
zumba_addict	upgrade went well squinty_	19:01
zumba_addict	i'm worried about dist-upgrade due to kernel panic	19:01
Colby2	Is it possible to install Ubuntu using a live USB to another USB?	19:01
Dave07747	Hi everyone! My friends and I have have remastered Ubuntu GNOME. We have unpacked the OS with squashfs, made our minor changes and then repacked it. We burned the ISO and tried to boot it, we get an error	19:02
squinty_	mestralx, there are some fine people in mint (spent several years there) ask there be patient and you will get help	19:02
momo_	colby2 yes	19:02
zumba_addict	back in early days of my linux, i always had kernel panic after every make install of kernel	19:02
Dave07747	"(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system"	19:02
Dave07747	That is the error we get upon boot	19:02
zumba_addict	i don't see that command anymore in HOWTO's such as make menuconfig make dep etc	19:02
momo_	colby2 but usb devices are not made to run a system , since theyr not made to delete read write many times	19:03
momo_	colby2 it would die soon and ur files aswell , but yes you can do it	19:03
Colby2	momo_ That makes sence.	19:04
zumba_addict	i was expecting that sudo apg-get upgrade will update git, but it didn't	19:04
momo_	colby2 cheers	19:04
Dave07747	Hiii, can anyone help me with I problem I ran into involving booting from a CD that has a remastered version of Ubuntu GNOME	19:05
squinty_	Dave, ! details	19:05
momo_	does anyone know of a german ubuntu channel on freenode	19:05
squinty_	!details	19:06
ubottu	Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)	19:06
brainwash	!de	19:06
ubottu	In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!	19:06
Colby2	I'm using a computer that has XP and I need to refuge and I can not update anymore. I figured I would give Ubuntu a try but I'm having a hard time installing.	19:06
Colby2	What does ubi-partman failed with exit code 10 mean?	19:07
chromotic	Hi I want to install git-cola in in my ubuntu 12.04 but I can not proceed because I get this error "Unable to lock the administration directory (var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?"	19:07
momo_	colby2 i ve had that 2	19:07
momo_	do you have more than 1 harddisk?	19:07
momo_	its something related to raid in your bios settings	19:08
brainwash	chromotic: which command did you run?	19:08
Colby2	No. And since my issues with XP I have reformatted.	19:08
squinty_	chrome0, if you have synaptic or another package manager open shut it down before starting an apt-get etc session	19:08
chromotic	This command "apt-get install git-cola"	19:08
squinty_	sudo	19:08
momo_	colby2 just google it there is a cmd you have to run while ubuntu boots	19:09
squinty_	chromotic, you need to use sudo sudo apt-get install git-cola	19:09
chromotic	oh okay	19:09
momo_	colby2 i dont advise you click install anyway	19:09
Dave07747	So we get the error as follows:	19:09
Dave07747	"(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system"	19:09
Dave07747	We unpacked with squashfs	19:10
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Dave07747	And in all honesty, the most major changes were replacing the graphics with our own	19:10
momo_	colby2 watch out that you save your files well, i nonchalantly lost half of my files doing several mistakes....	19:10
Dave07747	The names were kept the same	19:10
Dave07747	squinty: the above details enough?	19:11
Dave07747	momo: squinty: we used squashfs to unpack the OS	19:15
Dave07747	Then we made our changes	19:15
Colby2	momo_ Doesn't dell bios have an issue with any drive that isn't an hdd booting before it?	19:15
Dave07747	And then we burned the ISO and tried to boot	19:16
Dave07747	Only to get the error "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system"	19:16
G3RM	anyone with experience with transmission-daemon?	19:16
tonyyarusso	Dave07747: Did you forget to resquash it?	19:17
Dave07747	Nope	19:17
Dave07747	It boots, and the GNOME menu starts up	19:17
Dave07747	But then after a while a terminal like menu shows up	19:17
Dave07747	And the error shows	19:17
Colby2	momo_ I have found the article explaining raid. How can I pull up the window when Ubuntu is loading from a live usb?	19:18
momo_	colby2 that i dont know , i solved that problem by plugging out my 2nd harddisk	19:19
Dave07747	tonyyarusso: it was resquahed and it boots. However after a while, the error message shows up	19:21
Dave07747	"(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system"	19:21
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jak2000	hi all how to check if a port is opened?	19:23
jak2000	if is open?	19:23
vlt	jak2000: I use "netstat -tulpen"	19:26
squinty_	Dave07747, might want to try googling for that complete error message plus the words ubuntu and solved. after doing a quick google it would appear there could be various reasons. might be an idea to do some reading to see if you can narrow down the possibilities	19:26
Dave07747	Will do, tho after a while of searching and trying still no luck unfortunately	19:27
Dave07747	squinty:Thank you though	19:27
jak2000	vlt: http://pastie.org/10315058	19:28
jak2000	why was opened the 8080 port?	19:28
Pici	jak2000: you opened it, but there is nothing listening on that port	19:29
jak2000	mmm	19:30
jak2000	tomcat	19:30
jak2000	would be	19:30
Blackclawz	ok.	19:33
squinty_	Colby2, if by "window" you mean a tty session then just press F1 immediately after your computer splash screen has disappeared (or put another way at the Ubuntu Access Options splash). that will take you to a menu. highlight first entry and press the Tab key. backspace over splash and quiet and the type text that should take you to tty	19:36
John[Lisbeth]	Blackclawz: hello	19:42
Blackclawz	Hi	19:42
logikos	what is the best way to remove the text layer from a previously OCR'd scanned in pdf file (reason is because i'm using pdftk to rotate pages then i need to redo the OCR)	19:43
John[Lisbeth]	everyone Blackclawz is a new linux user who is having trouble with steam.	19:43
julian-delphiki	logikos: that sounds like a pretty specific question. You might want to get in contact with people that use that software, not general ubuntu help	19:43
julian-delphiki	Blackclawz: what issues are you having	19:44
squinty_	Blackclawz, there is a #ubuntu-steam irc channel here on freenode	19:44
logikos	its for a script running on ubuntu server .. i asked in a few places but no reply so far...	19:44
logikos	thought I'd try here	19:44
Blackclawz	When i open up steam it says login or create an account ,and i get frozen iand i cant do anything further	19:44
Blackclawz	the problems i am having on steam is tat,when i open it up it either says login or create and account i click on login, and the screen i all frozen no matter what i do to stop it	19:49
xtor	I want to make root into a normal root rather than going through this sudo rigmarole, how would I do that and add a password for root and enable ssh?	19:51
wileee	xtor, your root intentions are beyond any support here	19:53
Pici	/36/70	19:53
wileee	and a bad idea with ubuntu's design, however as it seems you're aware of OS's that fit this model, use tham.	19:54
wileee	them*	19:54
brainwash	!root	19:55
ubottu	Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo	19:55
TJ-	xtor: there's some details here including how to enable root: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo	19:55
OnkelTem	Hi all. I'm connecting via ssh to a ubuntu 14.04 from 12.04. The problem is that I get very long delay until interactive session started.	19:55
OnkelTem	debug1: Entering interactive session.	19:56
OnkelTem	this is what I see. Why this pause occurs?	19:56
TJ-	OnkelTem: how long a delay?	19:57
OnkelTem	TJ-: let me count, moment	19:57
OnkelTem	TJ-: 21 seconds	19:58
OnkelTem	This is local machine, I access it via LAN	19:58
TJ-	OnkelTem: That will be something on the target PC being run at log-in --- possibly the automated MOTD (message of the say)	19:59
TJ-	OnkelTem: see for more background https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UpdateMotd	20:00
OnkelTem	TJ-: thank you	20:00
xtor	wileee, is it possible for me to create another sudo user that does NOT require typing in a password each time a privileged command is to be run?	20:00
John[Lisbeth]	you guys blackclawz is like 12 years old and needs to be guided a little bit	20:00
qsub	xtor yes	20:00
John[Lisbeth]	He doesn't know how to advocate for himself on irc	20:00
wileee	xtor, I can't help you in this, sorry. ;)	20:00
qsub	xtor you have to give him the NOPASSWD option in sudoers	20:00
xtor	qsub, ahh gotcha. I wonder how easy it is to create a 2nd sudo user or maybe I should alter the original one	20:01
TJ-	xtor: see "man sudoers" for info on the NOPASSWD option, and consider making it selective for only particular non-shell executables	20:01
reisio	who's blackclawz	20:01
xtor	qsub is it usually done through a direct edit of the sudoers file or is the preferred methid through another shell utility	20:02
qsub	xtor you can either alter the current one if you wish. if you create a new user you have to create a entry for him in sudoers	20:02
TJ-	xtor: always experiment on a 2nd user account to avoid locking yourself out inadvertently!	20:02
energizer	how do i do something like "echo 5 \| xargs expr + 1"	20:02
qsub	xtor the recommended way is a direct edit on sudoers	20:02
* xtor sighs		20:02
qsub	you should probably not try to do it in another way	20:02
xtor	qsub, ahh that's good to know I like that. Just need to back up a text file	20:02
TJ-	xtor: use "sudoedit" too, it checks the syntax before saving	20:02
xtor	sudoedit, is that made specifically to edit sudo users, TJ- ?	20:03
ExpertKillerZ8	Hi peoples.	20:03
TJ-	xtor: see "man sudoedit" == "sudo -e " and are equivalent	20:03
energizer	in bash, how do i take the number of lines in a file (wc -l) and subtract 5 before printing	20:04
qsub	energizer VAR=$(command \| wc -l);VAR=$((VAR-5)) i believe	20:05
qsub	something like that	20:05
qsub	ask #bash	20:05
OnkelTem	TJ-: you was right. /etc/update-motd.d/90-updates-avaiable script runs that long	20:06
TJ-	energizer: awk 'ENDFILE{print NR - 5}' /etc/fstab	20:07
TJ-	OnkelTem: That's a common issue. It doesn't harm to remove the execute permissions from the time-wasting script(s)	20:08
andras_	e	20:09
wileee	xtor, Curious here, did you understand any of what was told you and the protection you would use?	20:09
energizer	qsub: TJ-: thanks yall	20:09
levo	how can i map tty8 to dispaly :1?	20:09
xtor	wileee, some of it yes	20:11
wileee	xtor, Cool, just concerned as I was from the beginning that you're safe.	20:12
xtor	TJ evidently there's a directory called /etc/sudoers.d in which it is recommended that you put your changes in a sort of differential format I assume	20:12
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lonelyCoder	Hey everyone! :D	20:20
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AbuDhar	hey.	20:22
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tanuki	I have Trusty running as a VM. A couple of times now, it has ended up booting into memtest86+. Why?	20:24
tanuki	Er, Trusty Server.	20:25
tanuki	The VM is headless.	20:25
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brainwash	!server	20:25
ubottu	Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server	20:25
tanuki	Thanks.	20:25
wileee	tanuki, run a sudo update-grub if you modify grub generally you would run this, some context would help.	20:26
tanuki	wileee: I'm pretty sure I didn't modify grub, but I'll try that.	20:26
wileee	tanuki, Check your fstab and /etc/default/grub is the general modify for a number of options	20:27
tanuki	To make life weirder: When I select "reboot" in memtest86+, it boots to Trusty.	20:28
wileee	tanuki, Did not ask but this is an install, not a live?	20:30
rfmon_	Can somebody help me expand sda1? https://i.imgur.com/Ey1vD59.png	20:30
tanuki	wileee: As far as I'm aware.	20:30
k1l_	rfmon_: first: boot up a live system	20:31
tanuki	It might still be booting from the ISO, though I thought I disconnected it	20:31
rfmon_	It is a live system :) k1l_	20:31
k1l_	rfmon_: then, move or delete sda2, then you can resize sda1 to fill the space up to sda2 again	20:32
rfmon_	I wonder if I have to allocate it first?	20:32
IPhoton	hello, I am recording my voice and I hear a lot of static on the background. Nothing that I will be able to do willl help. I have tried to remove it with Audacity, but still it's terrible. I think it has to do with the fact that I don't have realtek?	20:33
k1l_	rfmon_: what is inside sda2? could be that its mounted or used (swap) so its blocked to unmount and be moved. so unmount that partitions first	20:33
IPhoton	I know that on Windows on this same computer, it worked really well with my microphone	20:33
rfmon_	k1l_, it should you be swap. It seems that I can't unmount it.	20:34
TJ-	IPhoton: maybe the microphone has a boost mode which need disabling	20:34
rfmon_	k1l_: It just says that /dev/sda2 isn't mounted.	20:35
mike_papa	Hello. I'm trying to set up my nvidia gtx275 and intel GPU for multi monitor use. Unfortunately when in BIOS I set iGPU Multimonitor option to Enable, I get only black screen. I can use nvidia only to drive both monitors, but as it is rather old one, it does not support HDMI audio. I'd like to get it from intel's GPU (I don't need much power for playing movies). Any ideas? I tried property drivers and novueau.	20:35
k1l_	rfmon_: right click, then select unmount should work.	20:35
erkan^	doesn´t skype support 64-bits for Ubunto?	20:35
mike_papa	Ubuntu is fresh 15.04 install	20:35
IPhoton	hmm, I doubt it, I looked at all my setings	20:35
mike_papa	Motherboard is Asus Z87/DUAL of that matters.	20:36
Joel	is there a way to see what user accounts a .deb will create before installing it?	20:36
rfmon_	k1l_: Everything besides "Manage Flags" and "Information" is greyed out. Could it be because it's a virtual machine (VMWare)? I just mounted the ISO :)	20:36
bekks	Joel: You can extract it, and investigate the scripts shipped.	20:37
rfmon_	k1l_: In daemon tools that is.	20:37
TJ-	IPhoton: I'd have suggested interference picked up by wires but you say Windows has no problem; so the next obvious issue is the boost setting, which will usually cause distortion but not necessarily 'static' as in white noise	20:37
Joel	bekks, hrm, k, was hoping there was some dpkg commands to show scripts run	20:37
k1l_	rfmon_: wait what? what sort of setup is this? i thought that was a regular ubuntu hardware install and a live-cd/usb	20:38
bekks	Joel: Nope.	20:38
k1l_	rfmon_: you cant move partitions while the same system is running.	20:39
TJ-	Joel: You can inspect the postinst scripts of the deb with "dpkg-deb --control <archive.deb>" (see "man dpkg-deb")	20:40
Joel	TJ-, thanks	20:40
rfmon_	k1l_: I have a virtual machine (Ubuntu), the storage was supposed to be dynamic - but it hit it's max size of 40 GB, so I had to expand it in VMWare. "The disk was successfully expanded. You must repartition the disk and expand the file systems from within the guest operating system."	20:40
bekks	TJ-: Oh, thank you. Things I learned. :)	20:40
rfmon_	k1l_: So I'm trying to repartition it and expand it. But I can't really do that :D	20:41
OnkelTem	TJ-: found the reason of that update-available thingy. I have date set to 2001 year on my laptop to where I was connecting :)	20:43
TJ-	rfmon_: switch the storage to LVM, then you can make multiple separate physical partitions into Physical Volumes (PV), add the PVs to a Volume Group (VG), and then allocate Logical Volumes (LVs) for the required files-ystems - all without needing to disturb existing partioning	20:44
OnkelTem	for this reason updates-available cached file had been creating with incorrect date	20:44
rfmon_	That sounds like a pretty neat idea TJ-, I'll give it a shot.	20:44
TJ-	OnkelTem: Thanks for that info - that's an unexpected 'buggette' :)	20:44
xMopxShell	/tmp should always be root:root 777, right?	20:48
bekks	It should be 1777, ideally.	20:48
Joel	TJ-, interestingly enough it wouldn't give me the scripts, I ahd to extract to egt them :\	20:50
XenophonF	hey all - i'm looking for jetty9 packages suitable for use with 14.04	20:54
TJ-	Joel: that's what --control option does... by default to a directory called DEBIAN/ (or you can give it one) - then you'll have "DEBIAN/{pre,post}inst" along with the conffiles, control, md5sums and other scripts	20:54
XenophonF	does anyone know if there's a ppa or something i can use? i'd like to avoid maintaining my own installation of jetty from source	20:55
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xMopxShell	bekks: thanks	20:57
maggots	anyone know any text editors for snappy core	20:59
reisio	...	20:59
wish^^	Anyone know any good desktop environments for ubuntu?	20:59
k1l_	wish^^: there are a lot in the repos, just go and find the best yourself :)	21:00
k1l_	wish^^: http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ and others	21:00
wish^^	k1l_ thanks	21:03
xheart	hi guys, i recently installed 14.04lts on my 32bit PC. the issue i have now is after using the browser chrome or mozilla for 15mins approx it starts getting slow until it just stalls. do I need to download something extra to avoid this?	21:03
xheart	i have to restart to be able to enter again	21:03
xheart	?	21:06
wish^^	Ive used Unity, and i quite like it. Im just bored of it and want a change. Any ideas?	21:07
k1l_	wish^^: there is gnome-shell, kde, xfce, lxde, mate and other DEs in the repos. just try them	21:08
Bashing-om	xheart: A thought, Memory constraints ? what do ' free ' and 'top' reveal about the memory. while running and before the system shuts down ?	21:09
unknown___	Test	21:16
netvergent	hey everyone can bash be repaired? When I type export it says command not found. when I type $echo $BASH no echo reply. when I type sudo grep export .bashrc -n it says command no directory or file found	21:16
brainwash	netvergent: how did you break it in the first place?	21:17
reisio	netvergent: what does 'help \| head -1' say?	21:17
xheart	bashing how i check that?	21:17
netvergent	I never broke it!	21:18
netvergent	GNU bash, version 4.3.30(1)-release (i686-pc-linux-gnu)	21:19
netvergent	can bash be repaired?	21:20
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Tzunamii	There's a first for everything haha. You can always uninstall (purge) the package and reinstall it fresh	21:22
netvergent	uggg	21:22
netvergent	well if I do, its going to be a freepbx iso. no more line by line configuration.	21:22
netvergent	wasted to much time trying to make a zoneminder install work with this package	21:23
Tzunamii	Did you experiment on a production box?	21:24
netvergent	no	21:24
netvergent	I think this version could be to new.	21:24
hwpplayer1	Hi friends	21:26
Niju	Evening	21:26
hwpplayer1	How it is going on	21:27
Niju	Slow, you?	21:27
hwpplayer1	i'm happy with the news about pre installed thinkpad and other things	21:27
hwpplayer1	i'm fine thanks	21:27
Niju	Pre installed thinkpad?	21:27
hwpplayer1	yes i'll give the link	21:27
Niju	cool	21:28
hwpplayer1	http://tinyurl.com/okfyap2	21:29
Niju	interesting	21:30
netvergent	u know...I think I found out why im having a export issue. It works now...but at the root directory. its spitting out tons of lines vs "command not found" sound like its not in the path	21:31
hwpplayer1	I forgot to use ubuntu	21:39
hwpplayer1	i had installed ubuntu server	21:39
hwpplayer1	now which ubuntu should i download	21:39
Mesmerize	hello fellow ubuntu users	21:39
adlid	hi	21:39
k1l_	hwpplayer1: can you rephrase that question and give more details? are you looking for a server install? or a specific desktop?	21:40
hwpplayer1	Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS there is	21:40
hwpplayer1	i don't need server now	21:40
hwpplayer1	but my first ubuntu experience was server	21:40
k1l_	hwpplayer1: so what is the question?	21:40
Nokaji	any stats on 14.04 users upgrading to 15.04 ? -or- alternatively, any major reasons for doing so?	21:41
hwpplayer1	is Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS okay or which version	21:41
daftykins	Nokaji: LTS to non-LTS? wouldn't do it.	21:41
k1l_	hwpplayer1: ubuntu LTS got 5 years support. so that is a good start.	21:41
adlid	I would give 15.04 a month, or two.	21:41
Nokaji	oh, didn't realsie that, thanks	21:41
hwpplayer1	okay i'll try	21:41
k1l_	Nokaji: you need to think about if you want to upgrade every 6 months until the next LTS	21:42
Nokaji	k1l_: considering the mileage i got out of that piece of garbage called xp and all the rest, I'm prolly in no hurry to upgrade	21:43
Nokaji	when is the next LTS then?	21:44
Mesmerize	If an ubuntu update broke cryptsetup somehow, and I can't properly mount my full disk encryption sda3 partition, how can I repair that? Is that part of grub? It gets past the grub screen but it can't get past mounting the disk	21:44
Nokaji	i did know all this at one point	21:44
k1l_	Nokaji: LTS is a good start. the actual one it 14-04 and the next one will be 16.06	21:44
k1l_	*16.04	21:44
Nokaji	2016 it is then	21:44
david__	hi	21:45
david__	chanel in spanish?	21:45
reisio	david__: /msg alis list ubuntes	21:45
k1l_	!es \| david__	21:45
ubottu	david__: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.	21:45
hwpplayer1	it's enough fast torrent	21:49
hwpplayer1	anyone from ubuntu company here ?	21:50
hwpplayer1	i mean canonical	21:51
k1l_	hwpplayer1: you mean canonical? you can adress them on their webpage	21:51
hwpplayer1	i thought an administrator from canonical is here	21:51
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k1l_	hwpplayer1: what is the issue?	21:52
daftykins	hwpplayer1: no, volunteers	21:52
hwpplayer1	no i just wanted to know if there someone is	21:52
hwpplayer1	okay it's nice i'm not unhappy with that	21:52
k1l_	hwpplayer1: please lets just focus on actual hardware support in here. for general talk we have #ubuntu-offtopic . this channel is run by volunteers from the ubuntu community.	21:53
hwpplayer1	understand thanks	21:53
edupt	I am using the ubuntu 12.04 in ZedBoard, the ZedBoard has an OLED. When I start the board and start the ubuntu, it is showing the memory used. I would like to know, if it is possible to send a word I want to the OLED?	21:54
reisio	don't see why not	21:54
Nokaji	I've got one - should my HDD & SDD partitions be mounted in media or mnt? - I'm getting conflicting answers on the web. Some say mount is the new mnt, some say mount is for USBs and stuff	21:58
Nokaji	media is the new mnt*	21:59
daftykins	media would be good	21:59
daftykins	mnt is more like when doing chroots	21:59
reisio	if you're doing it manually, it doesn't matter	21:59
daftykins	but essentially they're just paths, it doesn't matter at all	21:59
reisio	yup	21:59
reisio	I use /mnt/ personally	21:59
reisio	new things are stupid	21:59
wileee	you curmudgeon lol	22:00
reisio	give me a reason to use something new and I'll do it	22:00
reisio	just being new isn't enough :p	22:00
jak2000	how to change the linux hostname_	22:00
Nokaji	media for usb seemed to make more sense however I cnahged them all to media on pontentially poor advice and then back again, now i have duplicates in both paths	22:00
reisio	media is plural :p	22:00
reisio	yup, pointlessly rename something and you end up with two things	22:01
Nokaji	there wre reasons, i forget exactly, something about slightly different functions and not being visible in one	22:01
reisio	:D	22:01
hwpplayer1	http://www.howtogeek.com/197934/how-to-change-your-hostname-computer-name-on-ubuntu-linux/	22:01
hwpplayer1	sorry for the long address	22:01
daftykins	hwpplayer1: why the link?	22:02
Nokaji	and media being for temporary mounts - for whatever reason	22:02
hwpplayer1	jak2000 asked it	22:02
daftykins	hwpplayer1: use nicknames to highlight who you're talking to	22:02
hwpplayer1	ok thanks	22:02
Nokaji	reisio: How would i delete the duplicate, a clue would do	22:03
reisio	Nokaji: which two have you?	22:03
Nokaji	I'd have tocheck, I have some 14 partitions, some are knonwn by long alphanumeric, partly why i fiddled with them actually	22:04
Nokaji	SSD x2 was showing up as 476434FJ6dFG5 or sme such, I did get it fixed though, the duplicates still have the alpha' name	22:04
TechMonger	I am trying to use putty from a windows7 computers to ssh into a ubuntu14.04 computer with X11 -X	22:05
Nokaji	I think it may be causing me a minor problem as it is	22:05
reisio	TechMonger: try harder	22:05
TechMonger	\	22:05
reisio	Nokaji: yeah?	22:05
TechMonger	xp	22:05
TechMonger	i get errors	22:05
Nokaji	eg can't change proerties as they change back	22:05
newbie	!latest	22:05
ubottu	Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.	22:05
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reisio	Nokaji: what properties are you trying to change?	22:06
Nokaji	paths, auto mount, title, display rubbish bin etc	22:07
Nokaji	I'm mainly there but would like to tidy it up and be consistent	22:07
Awesomecase	whenever I try to ./configure freetype-2.6 I get this https://paste.ubuntu.com/11950762/ , it appears to be a problem with bzip2	22:07
Nokaji	not a major deal, i have a coupla books now so will find it eventually	22:07
reisio	Nokaji: :)	22:09
ubuntu368	hi! would anyone be able to help me? I just installed xubuntu in an attempt to set up a dual-boot with my win8.1 on my laptop today. After the install, I am unable to boot windows (or find the bios for that matter). Halp?	22:09
reisio	ubuntu368: pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg and the output of sudo lsblk -f	22:10
TechMonger	I am trying to use putty from a windows7 computers to ssh into a ubuntu14.04 computer with X11 -X and i get errors	22:11
daftykins	TechMonger: errors doing what?	22:12
reisio	TechMonger: what errors	22:12
brainwash	!details	22:13
ubottu	Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)	22:13
TechMonger	i think its bc i dont know what to put in the X display location box in putty	22:13
daftykins	you can't use SSH -X with putty	22:13
TechMonger	*dies	22:13
daftykins	but it's not very clear what you're trying to say you're doing	22:13
ubuntu368	reisio: http://pastebin.com/VALALPfg	22:14
TechMonger	i want to run programs like firefox and mysql-workbench remotely	22:14
daftykins	TechMonger: you need something like cygwin installed for that	22:14
TechMonger	damn	22:14
ubuntu368	reisio: hope I did it correctly	22:14
daftykins	TechMonger: PuTTY is pure CLI	22:15
TechMonger	cygwin uses ssh?	22:15
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daftykins	cygwin usage is beyond the scope of this i think.	22:16
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daftykins	TechMonger: why do you want to run firefox from another system?	22:17
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rdzzl	reisio: let me know if there's anything else I gotta do in order to identify the problem	22:17
qsub	TechMonger http://www.x.org/wiki/	22:17
TechMonger	so i can download stuff to the system	22:17
daftykins	TechMonger: that's what wget is for...	22:17
Awesomecase	Whenever I try to ./configure freetype-2.6 in an attempt to get matplotlib working as detailed in http://newcoder.io/dataviz/part-0/ (The matplotlib error is http://paste.ubuntu.com/11950801/, I get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/11950795/. Could I please get some help? I'm new to ubuntu	22:17
TechMonger	i cant wget my google drive	22:17
k1l_	TechMonger: you can use sftp. that is included into ssh	22:18
daftykins	why would you bother?	22:18
TechMonger	i use google drive to file share	22:18
daftykins	TechMonger: i think you're going about this task in a wholly inefficient way	22:18
TechMonger	might be	22:18
TechMonger	i also want to run mysql-workbench too	22:18
daftykins	tell us what you actually want to achieve, not the way you think you want to be able to do it	22:19
TechMonger	the firefox was an added bonous	22:19
qsub	TechMonger if you really want to open firefox remotely you can download the X11 "app"	22:19
TechMonger	hmm	22:19
qsub	it's pretty much a "graphical putty"	22:19
TechMonger	is it ligit?	22:19
daftykins	you're going to divert this guy to a completely foolish approach if you offer solutions without knowing the true task :)	22:19
qsub	i'm just giving him what he asked for	22:20
daftykins	yes, that's the problem	22:20
evilrob	contemplating use (and purchase) of landscape for building a 20 node openstack cluster. I'm wondering about the makeup of the cluster at different numbers of nodes.	22:20
TechMonger	the task is run mysql-workbench remotely off a ubuntu computer on a windows computer	22:21
qsub	TechMonger or you can try and see if you can get it with wget	22:21
qsub	if it's a file	22:21
TechMonger	sigh	22:21
evilrob	for instance: what is the minmum number of nodes (including ceph) in order to provide high availability (where losing one node only affects virtual machines running on that node)	22:21
reisio	putty's already graphical...	22:21
daftykins	i don't think google drive presents normal URLs direct to files	22:21
evilrob	and with that minimum HA cluster, how many of them would be compute nodes?	22:21
rdzzl	reisio: did the evilrob http://pastebin.com/VALALPfg offer any clues as to what I've done to fuck it all up?	22:22
qsub	reisio so how do you ssh with -X / -Y via putty?	22:22
reisio	daftykins: I've clicked on a link that went to a google drive file that had a download link	22:22
rdzzl	clearly not supposed to @rob in that sentence; getting sleepy o.o	22:22
reisio	qsub: dunno, rather windowsy app, putty	22:23
qsub	TechMonger get the X11 app if you really need to run whatever app you need to remotely	22:23
daftykins	rdzzl: keep the language family friendly thanks	22:23
rdzzl	daftykins: my apologies	22:23
qsub	reisio do you even know what's xwindows?	22:23
daftykins	reisio: you can't	22:23
reisio	rdzzl: sorry what'm I looking at this for?	22:23
TechMonger	ok i guess X11 app is my solution	22:23
daftykins	it requires other software like xming	22:24
rdzzl	reisio: wasn't it you that told me to look for it?	22:24
* reisio doesn't care about putty		22:24
reisio	rdzzl: for what?...	22:24
Tzunamii	Use X2Go on the Windows box for good and free connection to a *nix X server	22:24
rdzzl	hi! would anyone be able to help me? I just installed xubuntu in an attempt to set up a dual-boot with my win8.1 on my laptop today. After the install, I am unable to boot windows (or find the bios for that matter). Halp? <-- was the thing you replied to	22:24
reisio	I'd kill for a complete sentence at this point	22:24
reisio	rdzzl: ah	22:24
qsub	reisio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System	22:24
reisio	rdzzl: so sda4 is windows?	22:24
rdzzl	reisio: im sorry im a complete rookie @ linux, partitions, dual-boot and whatnot	22:24
reisio	qsub: ...what about it?	22:24
rdzzl	reisio: how can I tell? I guess it might be?	22:25
wileee	qsub, You are not familiar with this channel, calling out some like this makes you look plain stupid.	22:25
reisio	rdzzl: how big is the drive?	22:25
qsub	wileee welp looks like you just did it	22:25
Tzunamii	daftykins: Sorry to direct this to you directly, but would you please point me to a minimal Ubuntu installation ISO for VMs, please	22:26
reisio	rdzzl: anyway, your GRUB doesn't have a listing for Windows	22:26
qsub	expressing facts is different thing though	22:26
daftykins	Tzunamii: no	22:26
Tzunamii	daftykins: I like your elaborate answer, thank you	22:26
rdzzl	reisio: drive is 260gig so it makes sense it if is windows. Perhaps worth mentioning that I went with the "install alongside" option when trying to install linux	22:26
reisio	rdzzl: you can try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair#A2nd_option_:_install_Boot-Repair_in_Ubuntu	22:26
reisio	rdzzl: if that doesn't work we can fix it manually	22:26
daftykins	Tzunamii: i am a human being, not a link provider :)	22:27
rdzzl	reisio: I actually tried that before coming on here. Got some error stating im in legacy mode	22:27
wileee	qsub, I have been on this channel a long time, it is obvious whom knows what and is guessing, there are regulars here.	22:28
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wileee	build your little straw man	22:29
qsub	wilee apparently being here a long time didn't give you a brain	22:29
wileee	lol	22:29
wileee	nor can you spell	22:30
daftykins	lets drop the urinating contest and return to topic now	22:30
daftykins	qsub: your disrespect toward a channel regular isn't useful, please drop it	22:30
qsub	yeah obviously being a regular gives you the right to call people stupid for pointing out other people mistakes	22:31
CosmicNoise	What is the chat version of the ubuntu room?	22:32
TechMonger	what are the leading video editing programs for ubuntu?	22:32
rdzzl	reisio: I probably messed up on several occations trying to arrange this dual boot stuff, but I got to say it has been a really long and dire afternoon trying to clean my mess in this unfamiliar OS	22:32
CosmicNoise	rdzzl, it can be a little daunting at first. There's a learning curve, certainly - but once you pass it, the fruits of your labour will last the rest of your computing life.	22:32
rdzzl	CosmicNoise: I hope so. Last time I tried ubuntu it didn't have support for my wifi card. This laptop it seems to work except im unable to boot my w8.1 which is an issue :p	22:33
CosmicNoise	CosmicNoise, the confusion comes from how much freedom and choice there is with Linux. Eventually, you'll come to revere that freedom and coice.	22:33
wileee	mmmm platitudes	22:34
CosmicNoise	rdzzl, it is usually best to install Windows first. Then install ubuntu - it will automatically detect that Windows has been installed and give you the option to install alongside it.	22:34
rdzzl	CosmicNoise: it did. I did. And now it doesn't find windows	22:34
daftykins	^ but only if booted in the same mode the Windows OS was installed in.	22:34
daftykins	legacy with legacy, EFI with EFI.	22:34
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CosmicNoise	rdzzl, okay, so sounds like you just have to update grub.	22:34
TechMonger	can anyone recomend a video editing program?	22:35
CosmicNoise	TechMonger, Blender?	22:35
rdzzl	daftykins: see that's where it gets difficult to me. Ihavenoideawhatimdoing	22:35
CosmicNoise	TechMonger, not really, my bad.	22:35
TechMonger	gimp do vids?	22:36
rdzzl	CosmicNoise: I tried that ( think) by doing sudo update-grub in terminal	22:36
reisio	rdzzl: you could try http://dpaste.com/0HZEB96.txt	22:36
daftykins	rdzzl: is it really even worth resolving this when win10 is out soon? :P	22:36
reisio	hahah	22:36
rdzzl	reisio: what do I do with that?	22:36
rdzzl	daftykins: haven't even watched a trailer of it. Not having high hopes for new win versions anyway. :p	22:37
reisio	rdzzl: put it into grub.cfg, reboot, try it out	22:37
rdzzl	reisio: anywhere in the .cfg ?	22:37
CosmicNoise	TechMonger, nah. Maybe I wasn't totally wrong with Blender. Seems to get some great reviews for video editing.	22:37
daftykins	lol trailer.	22:37
CosmicNoise	TechMonger, so that would be my recommendation.	22:37
daftykins	it's not a film!	22:37
reisio	rdzzl: anywhere between a } and menuentry, yeah	22:37
daftykins	i've been using the preview, it's good	22:38
reisio	daftykins: too late, I've already decided that was a joke about win10 being awful	22:38
CosmicNoise	rdzzl, also try this "sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg" in command line.	22:38
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rdzzl	damn do I have 2x linux installed O.o	22:39
rdzzl	gah can someone hit me with a stick	22:39
CosmicNoise	rdzzl, not likely. The grub sometimes has double entries... or perhaps one is recovery mode.	22:40
rdzzl	reisio: not finding ª} anywhere	22:40
reisio	rdzzl: grub.cfg is made up of entries that begin with 'menuentry' and end with '}'	22:41
reisio	you can add a new entry anywhere not within an extant one	22:41
rdzzl	reisio: failed to save document	22:42
rdzzl	gah	22:42
CosmicNoise	rdzzl, you'll have to be root to edit the document.	22:42
CosmicNoise	rdzzl, try sudo gedit grub.cfg	22:42
CosmicNoise	Enter pw, etc.	22:42
rdzzl	gedit command not found	22:43
CosmicNoise	What distro are you on?	22:43
bekks	Dont use sudo with graphical applications.	22:43
rdzzl	uh xubuntu	22:43
bekks	You'll likely mess up permissions.	22:43
reisio	mousepad?	22:43
CosmicNoise	Ah.	22:43
CosmicNoise	Yes, it'll be mousepad.	22:44
CosmicNoise	rdzzl, gedit is better than mousepad.	22:44
reisio	mousepad will suffice	22:44
rdzzl	im installing gedit (I believe - if sudo apt-get install installs it)	22:44
CosmicNoise	rdzzl, it will.	22:44
ntran	you can just 'gksudo mousepad grub.cfg'	22:44
rdzzl	so uhm gedit opens grub.cfg but file is empty	22:45
ntran	are you in the correct dir	22:45
CosmicNoise	rdzzl, sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg	22:45
CosmicNoise	rdzzl, when i said "sudo gedit grub.cfg", I was assuming you had already gone to the /boot/grub directory.	22:46
rdzzl	ah that makes sense	22:46
rdzzl	im looking for a file on my desktop that isnt on my desktop	22:46
CosmicNoise	rdzzl, yep, so it just creates it for you.	22:46
reisio	not gonna find it there, then	22:46
rdzzl	yea got it now	22:47
rdzzl	I guess I'll try a reboot	22:47
rdzzl	cheers for the help thus far!	22:47
CosmicNoise	rdzzl, good luck.	22:47
daftykins	full paths are indeed wise	22:48
rdzzl_	yeah, no. That didn't do it. I got an error as it booted up though	22:49
OerHeks	sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg ??	22:50
reisio	secret error?	22:50
rdzzl_	usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon	22:50
CosmicNoise	rdzzl, did you try "sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg" in command line.	22:50
rdzzl_	problemtype: crash	22:50
rdzzl_	CosmicNoise: yeah	22:50
bekks	OerHeks: Dont use sudo on graphical applications ;)	22:50
CosmicNoise	bekks, been doing it for years.	22:51
rdzzl_	gnome-keyring-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in __GI_getenv() <--	22:51
bekks	CosmicNoise: Doesnt mean it is safe.	22:51
CosmicNoise	bekks, no, you're right.	22:52
CosmicNoise	bekks, but, for beginners... I'm sure it's easiest to have them open a GIU.	22:52
bekks	It may break things.	22:52
CosmicNoise	bekks, text editing in command line is quite daunting.	22:52
bekks	Use gksudo instead.	22:52
genii	!gksudo	22:52
ubottu	If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)	22:52
daftykins	CosmicNoise: bad advice is bad advice, please don't suggest it again :)	22:52
CosmicNoise	daftykins, affirmative.	22:53
genii	Although I think the factoid is out of date now and should be gksu instead	22:53
reisio	rdzzl_: gnome keyring would be long after grub	22:53
daftykins	genii: yeah i think you're right, i also remember it was meant to be phased out entirely but i don't know for what version	22:53
rdzzl_	so what's next? would a clean reinstall of kubuntu (or another flavor) help?	22:54
rdzzl_	xubuntu*	22:54
OerHeks	i thought one needs to edit /etc/default/grub and run update-grub afterwards	22:54
reisio	rdzzl_: doubt it	22:54
reisio	OerHeks: no need for a test	22:55
CosmicNoise	rdzzl_, what made you choose xubuntu?	22:55
CosmicNoise	rdzzl_, if you're just starting out in Linux, the usual suggestion is to stick with "straight" ubuntu.	22:55
rdzzl_	CosmicNoise: it said xubuntu is lightweight, fast and has access to decent packages	22:55
lotuspsychje	does that mean one can sudo vi grub.cfg safely?	22:55
reisio	your choice of Xubuntu likely has nothing to do with this issue	22:55
reisio	lotuspsychje: yes, you just can't rely on it being left alone by the system during updates	22:56
rdzzl_	CosmicNoise: I've used various versions through the years but never for long as I've always had issues that I was unable to solve	22:56
lotuspsychje	reisio: because of the usn security flaws?	22:56
rdzzl_	CosmicNoise: I don't mind the learning curve now either tbh, it's just a bit meh to have problems with the tires after just having got the car keys	22:56
reisio	lotuspsychje: pardon?	22:56
lotuspsychje	!usn \| reisio	22:57
ubottu	reisio: Please see http://www.ubuntu.com/usn for information about Ubuntu security updates.	22:57
reisio	lotuspsychje: what about it?	22:57
CosmicNoise	rdzzl_, okay. Fair enough! No reason to do a clean install... your solution is just around the corner.	22:57
lotuspsychje	reisio: you say un-updated systems arent safe, and im wondering because of those security flaws	22:58
lawltoad	Hey all, I need advice on an embaressing problem. I've been programming for about 12 years but I've never managed to learn how to touch type. any avice?	22:58
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CosmicNoise	rdzzl_, now, it could be related to UEFI problems. Do you know if you installed Windows in Legacy Mode or UEFI mode?	22:58
daftykins	lawltoad: this is OS support, so nope	22:58
rdzzl_	CosmicNoise: from hours of googling, it seemed to point towards UEFI problems	22:58
CosmicNoise	rdzzl_, depending on your machine, you can sometimes turn this off in your BIOS settings.	22:58
CosmicNoise	Switch to legacy mode if possible.	22:58
reisio	lotuspsychje: I didn't say anything about safeness..	22:58
rdzzl_	CosmicNoise: yeah but I can't access my bios in any way so I can't switch it :\	22:58
reisio	you got the right guy?	22:58
daftykins	lawltoad: get yourself a blank "das keyboard", that'll force you not to look :)	22:58
reisio	lawltoad: learn	22:59
daftykins	rdzzl_: there must be a way.	22:59
CosmicNoise	rdzzl_, there must be some access to your bios. Usuallyp ressing F2, or F12 or some other function key during bootup, depending on your motherboard.	22:59
lawltoad	thanks! sorry about the noise	22:59
rdzzl_	daftykins: I tried some weird lines into terminal that I can't remember, I tried a hard reset (remove battery + charger), F2 spam, F8spam, del-spam, nothing takes me there	22:59
lotuspsychje	reisio: nvm, i was just thinking with all recent exploits, even if one uses gksudo that doesnt mean he's safe right	22:59
ljetibo	Hey guys, I have a laptop here that can't display google through firefox but can ping it. I tried after googling http://paste.ubuntu.com/11950960/ but I don't know what any of that means	23:00
daftykins	rdzzl_: which machine is it?	23:00
CosmicNoise	rdzzl_, do you know what motherboard it is?	23:00
reisio	lawltoad: http://www.gnu.org/software/gtypist/ http://klavaro.sourceforge.net/ http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/tuxtype/	23:00
ljetibo	I have a feeling those numbers should be at least simmilat	23:00
reisio	lotuspsychje: sudo is about limiting root access, it's not some magic security thing	23:00
rdzzl_	it's a toshiba satellite c55-a-1mw (or so the sticker says)	23:00
reisio	lotuspsychje: has almost nothing to do with exploits	23:01
reisio	although on Ubuntu sudo is used... not the way it was meant to be, so :p	23:01
lotuspsychje	reisio: but root access can be intruded by other ways no?	23:01
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reisio	lotuspsychje: other than?	23:01
CosmicNoise	rdzzl_, should be F2.	23:01
lotuspsychje	reisio: other then using sudo on GUI apps	23:02
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reisio	lotuspsychje: sudo isn't an intrusion	23:02
CosmicNoise	rdzzl_, turn machine on, as soon as the first splash screen appears, start hitting F2 repeatedly.	23:02
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rdzzl_	CosmicNoise: I'll give it another try	23:02
reisio	lotuspsychje: you can achieve root via other paths, though, sure	23:02
rdzzl_	so in bios I'll change to legacy mode and = gg ?	23:02
lotuspsychje	reisio: ok tnx	23:02
CosmicNoise	Legacy mode, yes, somewhere in the UEFI settings.	23:02
rdzzl_	i'll be back in a few then!	23:02
rdzzlllll	haha this is quite the slow way to operate, gotta reboot to pop back in for questions. good news: got into bios. Possible good news: can choose between UEFI and CSM mode. Whuttodo?	23:06
rdzzlllll	it's currently CSM but didn't wanna change it in case that means I can't boot linux afterwards. If that's a risk, i gotta make a bootable usb first	23:07
CosmicNoise	Well, it's always worth a try, and it doesn't take long to make a bootable usb.	23:08
CosmicNoise	Switch to UEFI mode. UEFI has been around a while now, so ubuntu should be able to handle it quite well by now.	23:08
CosmicNoise	Not the case a few years ago.	23:08
rdzzlllll	alright ill give it another go!	23:09
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reisio	mmm, well, it's not going to handle it well if his grub.cfg is all setup for not using it :P	23:10
reisio	but it should probably work as well as it already was after he switches it back	23:10
pants11	test	23:10
reisio	fail	23:11
CosmicNoise	There's no risk involved, and he can use the live disk to repair/update grub after the change.	23:11
reisio	he just said he doesn't have one :p	23:11
CosmicNoise	He said if he needed one he would make one... I suggested he do that.	23:12
CosmicNoise	Hopefully he seen the message.	23:12
reisio	:p	23:12
rrrdzzl	well guess what. changing it put me straight into win 8.1. No grub, no nothing.	23:12
CosmicNoise	rrrdzzl, did you make that live disc?	23:12
rrrdzzl	I can. Should I go for something else than xubuntu?	23:13
rrrdzzl	got a decent dl speed here	23:13
reisio	rrrdzzl: unlikely to matter	23:13
rrrdzzl	suggestions? I'll do university work, attempt to become less of a noob at python. Those two things are my only criterias for it. It'd be nice if it works too	23:13
CosmicNoise	I would switch to UEFI, boot to the live disc, and run a grub repair.	23:13
reisio	criteria*	23:13
CosmicNoise	From there.	23:13
reisio	Xubuntu is fine	23:14
CosmicNoise	It will then set your grub file up to match the changing BIOS settings.s	23:14
rrrdzzl	xubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64 tis the one I got	23:14
rrrdzzl	iirc I had to disable safe boot and some stuff to be able to install xubuntu	23:14
CosmicNoise	As far as distros go, xubuntu is fantastic. No issue as far as you criteria are concerned.	23:15
rrrdzzl	should I try that wubi thing?	23:16
xangua	rrrdzzl: no	23:16
xangua	!wubi	23:16
ubottu	Wubi was a way to install Ubuntu from within Windows, but it is no longer supported in recent versions of Ubuntu and was never well maintained even for Ubuntu 12.04. Do not use Wubi. See !install for other options for installing Ubuntu.	23:16
rrrdzzl	well I got both the ubuntu and the xubuntu iso	23:17
CosmicNoise	rrrdzzl, so, just to confirm. You installed Win 8. You then booted a live disc of xubuntu and installed from there, and selected the option to install alongside windows?	23:17
rrrdzzl	CosmicNoise: affirmative. I've had win 8.1 for months already though before deciding to install xubuntu	23:17
CosmicNoise	And when you start up, you boot straight into ubuntu, with no "grub" list showing up at any point? Or the grub list shows up, but no Windows listed?	23:17
rrrdzzl	no	23:18
CosmicNoise	No? To which one?	23:18
CosmicNoise	No grub list, or no windows on the grub list?	23:18
rrrdzzl	when I had CSM instead of UEFI, it showed grub (but not windows in it), and let me boot linux. When I changed it back to UEFI it popped right into windows without grub showing up	23:19
pants11	hi guys, anyone know why I cannot chat in the main #oracle room?	23:19
daftykins	still sounds like you've been mixing modes to me	23:19
EriC^^	yeah, i concur	23:19
daftykins	installing one OS in legacy/EFI then the other in the opposite, breaking things	23:19
kostkon	!register \| pants11	23:19
ubottu	pants11: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode	23:19
CosmicNoise	rrrdzzl, try mounting your windows partition and running "sudo os-prober". Paste us the output.	23:19
rrrdzzl	daftykins: how do I avoid that then?	23:19
EriC^^	pants11: it might be cause you need to register, ^	23:20
daftykins	i'd nuke the disk from orbit and start again	23:20
rrrdzzl	CosmicNoise: so reboot; enter bios; set to CSM, reboot, load xubuntu, mount windows, write command and paste output? O.o	23:20
daftykins	but truthfully windows 8.1 is rubbish and will become redundant in a few days	23:20
SuperFAM	hi, can i get some help?	23:20
daftykins	SuperFAM: not until you ask	23:20
CosmicNoise	rrrdzzl, Yep. Make sure it's installed first. Might not be on xubuntu, not sure.	23:21
EriC^^	rrrdzzl: reinstall ubuntu in uefi mode	23:21
rrrdzzl	is that a different .iso then or do I make a different choice while installing?	23:21
EriC^^	it depends on how the usb is booted, after you boot run ls -l /sys/firmware/efi to see if it loaded in uefi	23:22
EriC^^	if it exists then it did	23:22
CosmicNoise	rrrdzzl, no, just set the bios to UEFI and reinstall.	23:22
rrrdzzl	EriC^^: it gave me an error trying to run repair-boot stating I was in legacy mode	23:22
rrrdzzl	CosmicNoise: yeah thats what I tried to tell ya earlier; it doesn't let me boot from usb in UEFI (or at least didnt when I installed the first time around)	23:22
EriC^^	rrrdzzl: it would be easier to fresh install if you don't have anything on it yet	23:22
daftykins	!efi \| rrrdzzl learn the difference here	23:22
ubottu	rrrdzzl learn the difference here: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI	23:22
rrrdzzl	oh okay	23:23
rrrdzzl	so I'll try a fresh install (if my laptop will allow booting from the usb this time around)	23:24
rrrdzzl	should i diskpart my linux partition first perhaps?	23:24
EriC^^	not really	23:25
EriC^^	all you need is to boot in uefi mode	23:25
rrrdzzl	so installing I'll go "install alongside x"	23:25
SuperFAM	daftykins: how do i disable the prompt where when i visit a page it asks if i want to install an ubuntu app?	23:26
EriC^^	well, don't choose to reinstall ubuntu, cause it'll wipe the whole drive	23:26
EriC^^	rrrdzzl: ^	23:26
EriC^^	rrrdzzl: i'd manually partition	23:26
rrrdzzl	EriC^^: I'll need it in a recipe of sorts to make sure I don't screw up	23:26
rrrdzzl	EriC^^: That I can do right now, from windows, while still able to chat: right?	23:27
rrrdzzl	I see the partition in diskmngr	23:28
EriC^^	no, it's in the installer	23:28
EriC^^	you can remove them from windows if you want	23:28
EriC^^	i think there's a bios-boot partition that's 1mb or so, and a ext4 one and a swap one	23:28
EriC^^	delete those, and in ubuntu's installer choose Something else when it asks about installing	23:29
EriC^^	and make 1 partition for "/" (ext4 mountpoint "/") and a swap partition, and click on the EFI partition that windows uses, and select it as the efi partition, then install	23:30
rrrdzzl	http://askubuntu.com/questions/343268/how-to-use-manual-partitioning-during-installation/343370#343370 good? EriC^^	23:31
EriC^^	no	23:32
EriC^^	O.o	23:32
rrrdzzl	[01:30] <EriC^^> and make 1 partition for "/" (ext4 mountpoint "/") and a swap partition, and click on the EFI partition that windows uses, and select it as the efi partition, then install <-- dont wanna mess that one up. the ext4 blabla part of it has me confused	23:33
EriC^^	you should have unallocated space, when you click on it and click on the "+" you select the size of the partition, and the type of the filesystem, which is ext4, and the mountpoint "/" (your main root)	23:34
EriC^^	so if you have 30gb unallocated space, and you want 6gb swap, create a 24gb "/" and then click on "+" again and create a partition with the type swap with the rest	23:35
EriC^^	and you should have an efi partition that's about 300-500mb, fat32 filesystem that windows uses, double click on it and select it as the efi partition type	23:36
EriC^^	so ubuntu knows to use that for it's bootloader	23:36
pants11	On oracle, I want to increase my transaction id count by 10,000 to 20,000. Do you guys know how to do this? Google doesn't seem to have much on that.	23:37
bekks	pants11: Ask Oracle?	23:38
pants11	yeah the room is quiet on this one...	23:38
Eurynomos	Hello.	23:39
pants11	hello eury	23:39
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Aleksa	Hello! After installing Debian, I no longer can choose from GRUB menu	23:46
Aleksa	in fact, GRUB won't show up	23:46
Aleksa	even if I hold shift	23:46
Aleksa	it says grub loading	23:46
Aleksa	but nothing shows up	23:46
Aleksa	it loads an OS in regular time	23:46
ablest1980	whats grub again?	23:47
Aleksa	but the GRUB menu doesn't show	23:47
Aleksa	ablest1980, you mean, which version?	23:47
k1l	Aleksa: so setup the debian grub to suit your needs, or boot a live ubuntu and reinstall the ubuntu grub again if ubuntu is still installed	23:47
ablest1980	what youre talking about whats grub menu	23:48
Aleksa	k1l, I used ubuntu live usb to do it. I installed boot-repair in live mode. I ran it, it configured, even reinstalled grub. No success :(	23:48
Aleksa	Ubuntu loads	23:48
Aleksa	but I can't get GRUB menu to show	23:48
k1l	Aleksa: what OS are installed?	23:48
wileee	Aleksa, You save the bootinfo summary url?	23:48
Aleksa	I configured it to countdown 10 seconds (using grub-customizer)	23:48
ablest1980	aleksa i think they got #debian channel	23:49
Aleksa	k1l, Xubuntu and Frios (based on Deb Jessie)	23:49
Aleksa	wileee, no, I looked carefully, but I got no link. Maybe because I used advanced configs.	23:49
wileee	Aleksa, It pops up, but just curious here.	23:50
Aleksa	my settings are (using grub-customizer): default entry - ubuntu; checked show menu, look for other OS and boot default entry after 10 seconds.	23:52
Aleksa	in list configuration tab it loads a list and it recognizes Trios (the second OS)	23:52
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Aleksa	how do I get GRUB to show up?	23:52
AbuDhar	hold shift	23:53
EriC^^	add a # before GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT in /etc/default/grub	23:53
AbuDhar	Aleksa,	23:53
AbuDhar	maybe? :D	23:53
EriC^^	then run sudo update-grub	23:54
ablest1980	http://askubuntu.com/questions/322666/linux-grub-doesnt-show-up	23:54
AbuDhar	remember to update grub after	23:54
Aleksa	AbuDhar, when I hold it, there's a message „GRUB loading”, but it doesn't show up as like it used to when shift being held	23:54
k1l	Aleksa: i would start with clear standard grub. and not that customized stuff.	23:55
k1l	Aleksa: and i would make sure the grub is installed from the ubuntu one.	23:55
Aleksa	k1l, ok, any advice on how to achieve that?	23:55
rrrrrrrddzz	yeah I got stuck	23:58
k1l	Aleksa: sudo grub-install /dev/sdX and	23:58
rrrrrrrddzz	and its 2 in the night here. ' thanks for all your help but I don't have the time to carry on today. Perhaps I'll look into linux again in a bit. Hopefully it'll go smoother than this	23:59
k1l	sudo update-grub afterwards	23:59
AbuDhar	rrrrrrrddzz, stuck where?	23:59

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