[00:00] <loosebolton> I think I have all the information I need to switch from ubuntu to arch, but I'm still scared to death
[00:01] <reisio> xjkx: pastebin lsblk -f output and /etc/fstab
[00:01] <reisio> loosebolton: all you risk is your time
[00:01] <reisio> which is not valueless, but it is yours
[00:31] <formica45> lol
[00:38] <Loshki> doctorly: 1) install ssh and set it up so that only users with ssh keys can login. 2) Consider running on a non-standard port. 3) check the ssh logs at least daily. 4) tightvnc works well enough if your link isn't too slow. Otherwise, use CLI.
[00:49] <coraxx>  /msg NickServ identify gnyffeged
[00:50] <xangua> coraxx: time to change your password and try some numbers
[00:51] <coraxx> xangua: how do I change pwd ?
[00:55] <xangua> !pm
[00:55] <xangua> !freenode
[01:07] <yorwos> i am trying to watch a movie on my 2nd monitor, whenever i toggle to full screen the movie pauses and the full screen comes playing on monitor #1 , any ideas ?!
[01:08] <yorwos> using ubuntu studio 14.04 , kwin over xfce
[01:24] <coraxx>  /msg NickServ identify Gnyffeged1234
[01:24] <reisio> :D
[01:24] <ObrienDave> *face palms*
[01:25] <skulltip> on ubuntu 15 laptop server, even with the lid cracked using the extension cord, it seems to go to sleep or something. when I open up the lid, i have to do a restart to get the server working again. how can i disable this action so it stays active all the time?
[01:25] <ablest1980> coraxx you got to change your password now
[01:26] <coraxx> ablest1980: I'm trying to, but with no luck.
[01:26] <ablest1980> do /msg nickserv help
[01:26] <wileee> coraxx, you left a space at the beginning of the command to start with
[01:27] <reisio> you got to change pw for all the accounts you use that pw for :p
[01:27] <reisio> coraxx: do it right: https://xkcd.com/936/
[01:27] <coraxx> wileee: thanx ... that was the mistake. :-)
[01:29] <coraxx> I'm letting it go ...either I dont have my password ..or something is not working.....but thanx you guys.
[01:29] <ablest1980> get help @ #freenode
[01:29] <wileee> coraxx, the freenode channel can ping your email on file
[01:31] <coraxx> wileee: ok....trying now
[01:32] <coraxx> wileee: "This operation cannot be performed on coraxx, because someone is logged in to it."  damn
[01:33] <coraxx> wileee: wait... one of my password attempt _DID_ work ..I'm in
[01:33] <ObrienDave> *face palms*
[01:35] <mojtaba> Hi, does anybody know any solution for search within pdf contents? (I have tried pdfgrep, but it is not working very well.)
[01:35] <Raulwynn> Whatvis a partman 10 error?
[01:36] <coraxx> ok then ... now here is a harder oen for you guys.  In Ubuntu, when I send print to a virtual LPT1 port ...how can I make the "file" read multiple pages ?
[01:36] <coraxx> *one
[01:36] <Raulwynn> Im seeing that it is relate to low ram.
[01:36] <Raulwynn> But i have 6gb ram
[01:36] <ObrienDave> mojtaba, PDFs are not stored like ASCII text. so without using a PDF viewer, probably not
[01:36] <mojtaba> ObrienDave: I can search using evince, but I am looking for sth in command line.
[01:41] <Raulwynn> (Raulwynn) Whatvis a partman 10 error?
[01:41] <Raulwynn> Clran i.stall error
[01:41] <Raulwynn> Clean install
[01:49] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, any changes to the boot/install media you're using from the first install?
[01:50] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, looks like most people with the problem either had a bad installation media (possibly without enough space) or had to disable dmraid by hitting F6 at the grub menu when using the installation
[01:51] <Raulwynn> Okay i messed up and tried to install win7 sovthatvI could dualboot with ubuntu since the install was gorkedcearluer with gnome.
[01:51] <Raulwynn> So that I
[01:52] <wafflejock> that's alright but after installing Win7 you're getting this error when trying to boot the Ubuntu install then?
[01:52] <Raulwynn> But withvthe recent update, win 7 is magically incompatable with the compy and now its givingvmy hdd a fuss. Ive tried reformattingvit but bo avail.
[01:52] <Raulwynn> Yes
[01:53] <Raulwynn> Thevmedia is good. Im runningvubuntu on a lesser machine withcthe same install uve been using
[01:53] <Raulwynn> Win7 gas messed this compy up so bad.
[01:53] <Raulwynn> Has*
[01:54] <Raulwynn> Strangevthing is even after an hdd nuke its stillvremembering some install info. Maybe a bad hdd?
[01:54] <Raulwynn> Strange thing*
[01:54] <Raulwynn> Wow pretent c and v are spaces
[01:54] <wileee> Raulwynn, Stop, address an actual issue when can help with and stop posting incessantly
[01:55] <qsub> Raulwynn sounds like you could use a ubuntu live cd
[01:55] <wafflejock> Raulwynn, it might be that windows flipped some things around in your BIOS or something, typically haven't seen either system really cause hardware damage though
[01:55] <qsub> and use that repair tool that i forgot the name of
[01:55] <Raulwynn> I am using a live cd
[01:55] <qsub> but it sounds like you need to do some work on grub?
[01:56] <Raulwynn> Yeah
[01:56] <qsub> Raulwynn see if you can find ubuntu boot-repair
[01:56] <qsub> and run it from the live cd
[01:56] <qsub> that might do the trick
[01:56] <docmur> I have the following Samba configuration: http://pastie.org/10313744, I can see the share when I go to mount the network drive from WIndows but I can't write to it, is there anything wrong with my config?
[01:57] <Raulwynn> Okay what would be the command to run that? From the live usb
[01:57] <qsub> Raulwynn if you don't have it installed try "apt-get install boot-repair"
[01:57] <qsub> press the window key and search for boot-repair
[01:57] <qsub> if you don't find anything try running apt-get install boot-repair on a terminal
[01:57] <Raulwynn> Lemme boot live
[01:57] <Raulwynn> Hols up
[01:59] <lotuspsychje> docmur: maybe the #samba guys might know?
[01:59] <Bashing-om> Raulwynn: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair .
[02:02] <Raulwynn> Im having a hard time installing boot re
[02:02] <Raulwynn> The live usb wont boot now.
[02:03] <qsub> Raulwynn did you make sure you set your cd drive to boot first?
[02:03] <Raulwynn> Yes
[02:04] <qsub> does it even boots to something at all? what  do you get ?
[02:04] <lotuspsychje> !samba | docmur anything usefull here?
[02:06] <qsub> Raulwynn go to your bios and look for UEFI, if it's enabled, try setting it to Legacy Mode
[02:08] <Raulwynn> Will that change if im runningvlivevfrom a usb?
[02:09] <qsub> Raulwynn yeah it would need to boot from the USB port your flash drive is in. depending on your BIOS you can see the name of your USB drive
[02:09] <Raulwynn> Lemme try a dban nuke and seecwhere that gets ne
[02:10] <reisio> Raulwynn: what?
[02:11] <wileee> +1
[02:12] <Raulwynn> Then i will install xp as it will be compatible with my hardware then install ubuntu next to that.
[02:13] <squinty_> Raulwynn,  xp is dead   no support
[02:13] <eindoofus> hi, is there a way to use remote desktop connection on windows to interact with a linux machine with the desktop environment active?
[02:13] <wafflejock> eindoofus, maybe x2go or vnc
[02:13] <beed> @eindoofus other than a shared vm?
[02:13] <beed> vnc probably yeah
[02:13] <qsub> eindoofus vnc
[02:14] <Raulwynn> I kbow squinty butvthe only other os i have is win7 whish isnt compatable with hardware
[02:14] <qsub> or X11 but it will be sloooow
[02:14] <beed> raulwynn so get linux
[02:14] <Raulwynn> So im installing xp tocfix win7 messup then deleting to install ubuntu
[02:15] <beed> i don't understand your issue. install ubuntu from a usb, wipe the drive in the process.
[02:16] <Raulwynn> Beed you don't think ive tried that? Win7 messed my computer up and now i cant boot liveusb
[02:16] <Raulwynn> .
[02:16] <eindoofus> sounds like vnc is a good bet. thanks guys
[02:16] <qsub> Raulwynn how did it mess it up ?
[02:16] <beed> @raulwynn that doesn't add up. you boot from usb from your bios, not from windows.
[02:17] <qsub> Raulwynn what error message do you get, if any ? Device not found?
[02:17] <squinty_> Raulwynn,   might want to consider reinstalling Windows then  read   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI  and then reinstall linux (recommended method)\
[02:17] <Raulwynn> Nothing. It justcsits on the ubuntu screen loading for hours and only started after i tried installing win7
[02:18] <ObrienDave> sounds like a low-level format of the drive is in order
[02:18] <beed> @raulwynn are you trying to install from within a windows session?
[02:18] <beed> or is the install failing after booting into your usb's iso
[02:19] <qsub> could be a bad iso/usb installation
[02:19] <beed> ^
[02:19] <beed> that's why i'm asking to clarify where he's trying to install from. keeps talking about windows...
[02:20] <qsub> http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ is good
[02:21] <beed> holy crap, they finally changed their site
[02:21] <beed> good for them
[02:21] <qsub> the GUI looks like sh*t though :P
[02:21] <beed> pfft, doesn't everything
[02:21] <Raulwynn> Im installing from live usb
[02:21] <beed> that would be why they don't show screenshots :P
[02:21] <Raulwynn> But live usb wont boot
[02:22] <qsub> no seriously, it's like this flashy sticky fancy thing
[02:22] <beed> okay, raulwynn. so that means that you have your computer powered off, you insert your usb, and you boot from your usb drive, right?
[02:22] <Raulwynn> Plug into other computer boots
[02:22] <qsub> it's horrible
[02:22] <qsub> but it works
[02:22] <Raulwynn> Issue no start until i try install windows
[02:23] <beed> @qsub i'm partial to pendrive myself but w/e. @raulwynn ignore windows for a second. boot *from* the usb drive on your issue workstation and let's go from there.
[02:23] <beed> you're saying that the installation hangs?
[02:23] <Raulwynn> I cant boot from usb for the hundredthvtime
[02:23] <Raulwynn> I cannot bootvfrom usb
[02:23] <beed> just on the one computer?
[02:23] <Raulwynn> Yes
[02:23] <qsub> Raulwynn did you just paste the iso into your usb manually?
[02:23] <beed> and it works in another?
[02:24] <Raulwynn> Yes ive said this before
[02:24] <beed> @raulwynn, try a different usb port on the issue workstation.
[02:24] <Raulwynn> Done that.
[02:24] <Raulwynn> Nothing.
[02:24] <qsub> Raulwynn don't paste it, delete it, and install the iso into your usb drive using the software from these guys: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[02:24]  * wileee looks down the well of helpers and waves at those whom wasted there time with this user
[02:24] <beed> @qsub he says that it "works" on another workstation so
[02:24] <beed> don't think that's the problem
[02:24] <Raulwynn> The usb isnt the issue
[02:25] <Raulwynn> Ive said that before too
[02:25] <zack_> Umm... hey?
[02:25] <beed> ummm hi
[02:25] <Raulwynn> I give up im just getting irritated im getting off for now.
[02:26] <zack_> Hey, I'm testing Linux Ubuntu Mate for the first time :D
[02:26] <beed> @raul if it works on one computer, and not on another
[02:26] <zack_> Well cya
[02:26] <qsub> well i had a problem before where my stuff wouldn't boot up because i was using UEFI mode, and had to change to legacy mode to get stuff working. so like hardware related
[02:26] <beed> the issue is within that one computer. my guess would be the port/connection is bad, or your bios is fucked
[02:27] <beed> @qsub he said his problem workstation is win7, so unless he downgraded from 8 in some weird manner then that's not the issue
[02:27] <Raulwynn> Okay nowvim getting somewhere.
[02:27] <Raulwynn> I have
[02:27] <Raulwynn> I had 8.1
[02:27] <Raulwynn> Then an updat cameva week ago
[02:27] <beed> when you downgraded, did you wipe it completely and then install 7, or just do some weird win8-to-7 downgrade thing?
[02:27] <Raulwynn> I hate this keyboard. Killed my compy
[02:27] <beed> keyboards don't kill computers. ID10T errors do.
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> lol
[02:27] <Raulwynn> Then reinstalled win7 and kept bsod
[02:28] <qsub> beed it's windows dude you gotta go shotgun style ...
[02:28] <beed> take the tower, chuck it out the window. buy a new computer and have a competent person set it up for you.
[02:28] <Raulwynn> Its notcan id10t error bro
[02:28] <Raulwynn> Okay qusb, you know what youre doing.
[02:29] <beed> PEBKAC, then ;)
[02:29] <beed> he already told you what you need to do. disable UEFI and boot in legacy mode.
[02:29] <Raulwynn> What ere you saying about uefi mode?
[02:29] <TypoNAM> I upgraded a VM from 10.04 to 12.04 to 14.04. I've ran into a problem where gcc generates this error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s   and google searching has failed to provide a solution. :/
[02:29] <qsub> that might work.
[02:29] <qsub> Raulwynn in your BIOS
[02:29] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | Raulwynn
[02:29] <qsub> look for anything in there that says UEFI
[02:30] <squinty_> beed,  might want to give the channel rules a read before a mod comes along.... this is a family channel, no swearing, curteous behaviour etc.   thanks
[02:30] <beed> sure thing.
[02:31] <Raulwynn> Okay after an hour, i finally get help from someone who knows something. Beed please quit talking to me.
[02:31] <beed> @typoNAM that means ld is unable to find the lgcc library. can you run ld -lgcc_s --help?
[02:32] <beed> oops, ld -lgcc_s --verbose*
[02:33] <TypoNAM> beed: http://pastebin.com/m2CMFVZy
[02:34] <beed> is your VM running 14.04 32-bit or 64-bit
[02:35] <wileee> Raulwynn, There have been lines of top helpers here, you just are not able to realize this, when they helped are now days later.
[02:35] <wileee> or*
[02:36] <wileee> any one smart will not touch you at this point
[02:36] <beed> hahahah has he been in here for that long?
[02:36] <TypoNAM> beed: 64-bit
[02:37] <beed> can you pastebin me the output of "find / -name "libgcc_s.so*"?
[02:37] <beed> you might need to run that as sudo
[02:38] <Raulwynn> Whatever.
[02:38] <TypoNAM> beed: http://pastebin.com/jx4b4ij7
[02:39] <Raulwynn> My issue is simple. Win7 messed a setting up and i needed to reset ufei now it works.
[02:39] <Raulwynn> Two hours for a simple fix.
[02:40] <qsub> Raulwynn so Legacy mode did it ?
[02:40] <qsub> or was it already in legacy mode ...
[02:40] <Raulwynn> Yes. Thank you qsub
[02:40] <Raulwynn> No it wasnt
[02:40] <beed> @typoNAM what path is your compiler expecting libgcc_s to live in
[02:40] <qsub> cool Raulwynn, now you will remember this in the future :)
[02:41] <Raulwynn> Thats all i needed and you actually paid attention to what i was saying.
[02:41] <Raulwynn> Thanks, have a good night.
[02:41] <qsub> yw
[02:42] <wileee> funny 3 days to get someone to listen, does even make sense
[02:42] <wileee> not*
[02:42] <lotuspsychje> lol
[02:42] <qsub> this can be confusing if you never messed with this stuff before.
[02:42] <wileee> qsub, look at the logs bro
[02:43] <qsub> when i tried to install debian years ago it took me like a week
[02:43] <TypoNAM> beed: I don't know, how do I find out?
[02:43] <beed> oh, never mind that nam, you already gave me that output (the first pastebin you linked). give me a moment.
[02:44] <TypoNAM> note that it isn't a per project thing, it is happening to everything from simple compile a tiny main.c test to ./configure scripts on multiple open source projects outright failing. Meaning all gcc linking processes fail because of this one error
[02:45] <beed> well, the reason for that is that your compiler isn't able to find the library
[02:45] <beed> i've seen this happen to a bad symlink before
[02:46] <beed> run $ ll -l /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
[02:47] <beed> is that pointing correctly to /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.8/libgcc_s.so?
[02:47] <wiltors42> Hi, I have a problem. I added kali linux repos and installed kali tools and now ubuntu thinks it's kali linux and it's causing system problems and x keeps freezing
[02:47] <wiltors42> Any way to revert ubuntu back into thinking it's ubuntu
[02:47] <adlid> reinstall?
[02:48] <beed> oops nam, habit made me type "ll" - an alias on my machine. if you ran into an error run ls with the same options.
[02:48] <wiltors42> that's one option
[02:48] <adlid> What do you mean by Ubuntu think it's Kali?
[02:49] <wiltors42> in unity, on my top bar it says Kali GNU/Linux instead of Ubuntu
[02:49] <TypoNAM> beed: negative, it's an actual file in that location
[02:51] <adlid> So do you want Ubuntu with Kali Tools?
[02:51] <adlid> Or just Ubuntu?
[02:52] <wiltors42> I want ubuntu with kali tools, i'm assuming the reason ubuntu is having internal problems is because it thinks that it is kali
[02:53] <wiltors42> So I'm trying to restore ubuntu back into thinking it's ubuntu with kali repos
[02:53] <ObrienDave> wiltors42, it does not work that way LOL
[02:53] <wiltors42> ok, then can i revert back without uninstalling the kali tools?
[02:53] <wileee> isn't kali debian?
[02:53] <adlid> Yes
[02:54] <adlid> Debian Repos
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> WildSoft: why not just install the packages manually?
[02:54] <wiltors42> it says Kali GNU/Linux Desktop
[02:54] <beed> @typoNAM try running $: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.8/libgcc_s.so /usr/lib32/libgcc_s.so.1
[02:54] <wiltors42> I wouldn't mind except that it gives me alerts every time I power up
[02:55] <adlid> i'm so confused, -.-
[02:55] <beed> @wiltors what errors specifically?
[02:56] <wiltors42> Internal Probem Detected dialog box
[02:56] <wiltors42> Problem*
[02:56] <beed> ...did you *add* the kali repositories to your sources.list, or replace what you had there?
[02:56] <wileee> wiltors42, None of what you've described is supported here, you have to use the ubuntu repos for support, unless there is no other option.
[02:56] <beed> @wiltors do $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:57] <beed> are the only lines there the kali-linux repos?
[02:57] <wiltors42> ok
[02:58] <qsub> wileee i suppose you could try apt-get clean all
[02:58] <wileee> qsub, Why would I do that?
[02:58] <beed> he meant wiltors.
[02:59] <qsub> yep :P
[02:59] <wileee> If you don't know do not answer, if it is not in support do not answer
[02:59] <adlid> easy killer
[03:00] <wiltors42> yes eveyrthing is still there
[03:00] <wileee> this isn't #ubuntu-fix-dumb-ideas-not-in-support
[03:00] <beed> okay, so uninstall the packages you installed from kali's repos.
[03:00] <wiltors42> I added the kali repos after all the ubuntu repos
[03:02] <qsub> wiltors42 i'm sure debian repos have a good chunk of that stuff ...
[03:03] <easyOnMe> hello
[03:04] <easyOnMe> anyone here know and downloadable javascript obfuscator meant for linux platform or more specifically for ubuntu
[03:04] <easyOnMe> anyone here knows any downloadable javascript obfuscator meant for linux platform or more specifically for ubuntu
[03:05] <lotuspsychje> easyOnMe: have you tryed software centre
[03:05] <easyOnMe> I did but mostly the ones I got are all .exe files
[03:05] <easyOnMe> meaning they only run on windows
[03:06] <qsub> easyOnMe apt-get -y install yui-compressor
[03:06] <easyOnMe> qsub: have you used it before and is it that good at obfuscating or only compressing and minifying
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> easyOnMe: apt-cache search obfuscator shows a few
[03:07] <easyOnMe> lotuspsychje: ok let me try
[03:07] <qsub> easyOnMe http://stackoverflow.com/questions/194397/how-can-i-obfuscateprotect-javascript
[03:08] <easyOnMe> lotuspsychje: thanks but those apps are not meant for javascript
[03:09] <easyOnMe> qsub: after install YUI compressor does it come with a gui of its own
[03:10] <qsub> easyOnMe probably not http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/yui-compressor.1.html
[03:11] <easyOnMe> qsub: you are cool man
[03:11] <qsub> i try :)
[03:11] <easyOnMe> you really are cool thanks for the guidance short, quick and to the point
[03:12] <qsub> yw
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | qsub
[03:14] <qsub> \o/
[03:14] <ObrienDave> give him 2 ;P
[03:18] <TypoNAM> can anybody explain to be how the hell did this happen after upgrading 10.04 -> 12.04 -> 14.04: http://pastebin.com/wbKqAXJR And yet on packages.ubuntu.com it does exist at all. Note that I've never installed gcc 5, gcc-5-base only shows up during the 14.04 package upgrades according to the upgrade log.
[03:20] <wileee> TypoNAM, Any PPA's 3rd pary repos?
[03:21] <ObrienDave> ummmm, it's needed to compile on-the-fly some of the ubuntu packages?
[03:23] <momo_> oyoy
[03:23] <momo_> is me froga
[03:23] <easyOnMe> qsub: man is yui compressor for real I type this command in the terminal yui-compressor /var/www/html/ci_project/html_back_26072015/assets/fmoaujc/mainMinOb.js | touch /var/www/html/ci_project/html_back_26072015/assets/fmoaujc/try.js
[03:23] <momo_> thanks Quantos
[03:24] <easyOnMe> and when I opened try.txt there is nothing in the file
[03:24] <Quantos> No problem momo_ These guys should be able to figure out what you mean
[03:26] <momo_> Allright hi everyone am having a hard time because i somehow clicked on a file with a key on my personal folder on ubuntu 14.04 , where i typed in my password , thereupon all my files in the personal folder disappeared
[03:26] <TypoNAM> wileee: yeah looks like I got screwed by http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-toolchain-r/test/ubuntu  and now I can't undo it because of them. great...
[03:26] <easyOnMe> qsub: I got it to work but it only compressed and not obfuscation done
[03:26] <momo_> aswell as on the desktop , and mozzilla settings ..... i have no clue what i have done
[03:26] <momo_> may someone offer me his assistance on a private chat
[03:27] <xangua> !pm
[03:27] <easyOnMe> how come my yui-compressor never obfuscated by code but only compressed it into a single line
[03:30] <momo_>  am having a hard time because i somehow clicked on a file with a key on my personal folder on ubuntu 14.04 , where i typed in my password , thereupon all my files in the personal folder disappeared
[03:35] <yorwos> kies22i am trying to watch a movie on monitor #2 , but when i maximize it it comes on monitor #1 , how to send to monitor #2 ?
[03:39] <ObrienDave> dont use full screen? ;P
[03:44] <momo_> Heeeelp me
[03:45] <xangua> !ask | momo_
[03:46] <momo_> HEEEEEEELP i clicked on a file on my personal folder which had a key on it ,it literally looked like a key the file i typed in my password and then all my files disappeared in the personal folder , aswell as my firefox settings tabs etc.............
[03:47] <gry> what was the file name?
[03:47] <momo_> gry i dont remember
[03:47] <momo_> it either said unlock personal folder or lock personal folder i think
[03:48] <momo_> when i installed ubuntu i set that it would encrypt my personal folder
[03:50] <pritam> I need a project to do .anyone interested ?
[03:52] <momo_> gry i forgot to mention that window popped up mentioning ecrypt and how the password is generated
[03:55] <ziggyfish> I am trying to get vsftpd working. I installed the package on a clean install (i.e no config changes as yet). and I get the following error: 500 OOPS: prctl PR_SET_SECCOMP failed
[03:56] <ziggyfish> I tried seccomp_sandbox=no, however I can't seem to login with local users
[03:57] <ziggyfish> can anyone help me?
[04:01] <momo_> alkaloid help me
[04:02] <momo_> :(
[04:03] <ziggyfish> momo_, what do you need?
[04:04] <rehboot> Hi
[04:04] <ziggyfish> hi
[04:04] <rehboot> just lurking out of boredness
[04:05] <momo_> ziggyfish i clicked on a file with a key on my personal folder on ubuntu 14.04 , i typed in my password and afterwards all my files in the personal folder disappeared , later a window popped up mentioning ecrypt and how i could generate a password
[04:06] <ziggyfish> momo_, backup?
[04:06] <momo_> i have none i freshly installed ubuntu so i could actually store my files safely
[04:07] <momo_> not only did those files disappear firefox also lost all the settings i have set on it including bookmarks and addons
[04:07] <momo_> aswell the files ihad on the desktop
[04:17]  * ObrienDave bites fingers to avoid getting kicked/banned
[04:23] <chandler____> what is the non-support ubuntu IRC channel
[04:23] <kokut> ObrienDave: ?
[04:23] <kokut> chandler____: ubuntu-offtopic
[04:23] <chandler____> kobut thank you
[04:23] <ObrienDave> chandler____, #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:26] <dinoocch> This may be an odd question, but we have an ubuntu based lab, when we added kerberos and pam_mount, login (local and krb users) hangs for an extended time with just a black screen with a mouse from lightdm or a motd from a tty. However, this only happens on 3 of ~40 machines...any ideas on where to look further?
[04:26] <dinoocch> auth log confirms that the users have authenticated, and nothing much seems amiss -.-
[04:28] <easyOnMe> hey fellas
[04:28] <easyOnMe> how do I access my ubuntu 14.04 LS from my office
[04:28] <easyOnMe> that uses Windows 7
[04:28] <easyOnMe> I know I can use putty for ssh
[04:29] <easyOnMe> but about the ipaddress how to I know which one to use
[04:29] <druizubuntu1> how can i intall skype in ubuntu studio?
[04:30] <Hongo> Im not a pro but just download the .deb in the page, or search for it in the repos :o
[04:30] <easyOnMe> http://apaste.info/eHD
[04:30] <easyOnMe> qsub: http://apaste.info/eHD
[04:30] <easyOnMe> how do I access my ubuntu 14.04 LS from my office
[04:30] <HolyKnight> momo_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[04:30] <easyOnMe> that uses Windows 7
[04:31] <Bashing-om> Rurd2di: ' apt -get update ; apt-get upgrade ' apt-get install skype ' (14.04 +)
[04:31] <easyOnMe> I know I can use putty for ssh
[04:31] <xangua> druizubuntu1: enable partner repository and run sudo apt-get install && apt-get install skype
[04:31] <easyOnMe> but about the ipaddress how to I know which one to use
[04:31] <xangua> !partner
[04:33] <qsub> easyOnMe you need to set up OpenSSH on your ubuntu machine
[04:33] <qsub> then you need to open port 22 on your firewall
[04:33] <qsub> then you need to start running sshd
[04:34] <easyOnMe> qsub: by openSSH you mean the openSSH server
[04:34] <easyOnMe> I already did that
[04:34] <qsub> easyOnMe did you open port 22 on your router?
[04:36] <qsub> easyOnMe try ufw allow 22 as root
[04:36] <easyOnMe> qsub: then what's next
[04:36] <qsub> easyOnMe after that do service restart sshd
[04:37] <easyOnMe> ok after that what's next
[04:37] <qsub> easyOnMe go to www.myipaddress.com , get your ip in there and try to ssh\
[04:37] <qsub> ssh yourusername@yourip
[04:37] <qsub> in putty
[04:38] <easyOnMe> qsub: ok one more thing though this approach of ours - I have tried it before but only using my Windows 7 office laptop at home... I manage to access by ubuntu 14.04 ls at home - does this principle apply if I use the Windows 7 office laptop but this time using our office network
[04:39] <qsub> as long as your ubuntu machine is running, port 22 is open, and the sshd daemon is enabled, you should be able to connect to it from anywhere
[04:39] <gry> momo_: hi.
[04:40] <easyOnMe> qsub: oh ok
[04:40] <qsub> :P
[04:40] <gry> momo_: can you type ``mount'' in a terminal and put the output to paste.ubuntu.com ?
[04:40] <easyOnMe> so what is important of course is to make sure my laptop at home is left switched on
[04:40] <qsub> pretty much
[04:40] <easyOnMe> then wherever and whenever I can access my laptop
[04:40] <momo_> gry i will
[04:40] <easyOnMe> well of course the internet at home switched on too
[04:40] <qsub> yep
[04:40] <qsub> and your config is right
[04:41] <Toph> qsub,,, if your machine at home is in suspend mode, can you remotely awaken it?
[04:41] <momo_> gry http://paste.ubuntu.com/11946756/
[04:41] <qsub> Toph i'm not sure if you can still ssh to it, if you could than maybe yes
[04:41] <Toph> ok
[04:42] <qsub> Toph but if you have a lan house setup(more than 1 machine connected to the same address) you could use another machine to wake it up
[04:42] <gry> momo_: ls -la /home/sasa/.Private/
[04:44] <momo_> gry am not sure what you mean do you want me to type that into the terminal
[04:44] <gry> Yes.
[04:45] <gry> To clarify: it lists files in that directory.
[04:46] <momo_> gry http://paste.ubuntu.com/11946774/
[04:47] <gry> momo_: ls -la /home/sasa/Private (if that directory exists)
[04:49] <momo_> gry it says that this file  or directory does not exist the last paste i have sent had blue and red lines that were not copied into the paste
[04:51] <qsub> easyOnMe make sure you have a strong root password because chinese bots might try to brute force it
[04:51] <gry> momo_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome has more details. I would try to log out and log in again.
[04:51] <momo_> gry tried to login and logout allready
[04:52] <easyOnMe> qsub: ok that is a good advice
[04:52] <easyOnMe> but related to that how do I know that right now my ubuntu laptop is not compromised by these chinese hackers
[04:52] <easyOnMe> using their bots
[04:52] <momo_> gry do you think that those files are lost ? if they r just hidden right now
[04:53] <momo_> i could calm down a little
[04:53] <gry> momo_: try "ecryptfs-mount-private" command in terminal
[04:53] <qsub> easyOnMe pretty much once you open that SSH port and start listening to it attacks will happens. that's just normal internert shenanigans
[04:53] <qsub> easyOnMe people have these chinese bots constantly scanning for vulnerable machines to infect......
[04:54] <easyOnMe> qsub: so how do I protect myself
[04:54] <cfhowlett> much more likely to be hacked by your government than anyone else
[04:54] <qsub> easyOnMe there's "advanced ways" to stop it if you don't like the concept of having 5000 intrusion attempts a day
[04:54] <qsub> easyOnMe 1. Disable password authentication and use only "Public Keys"
[04:54] <easyOnMe> qsub: how
[04:54] <easyOnMe> can I learn that
[04:54] <qsub> 2. Use a different port
[04:55] <qsub> 3. Disable root login at /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[04:55] <momo_> gry no such directory
[04:55] <qsub> where it says PermitRootLogin yes change it to PermitRootLogin no
[04:55] <qsub> save and restart sshd
[04:55] <qsub> you might want to google the key authentication stuff
[04:56] <qsub> but as long as you have a good root password you will be just fine
[04:56] <SuperLag> Doing an ls in /home, I see all the users' directories. They're all colored blue. One of them is highlighted in green. What does that mean?
[04:58] <naftilos76> Hi, i have created (or think so) a tmpfs for /tmp and /var/log in fstab for protecting my SSD. How do i confirm that these paths are indeed ram spaces instead of hard disk spaces?
[04:59] <dinoocch> Perhaps phrased differently, what is the best way to trace a login issue?
[04:59] <naftilos76> Is there a command to confirm that these paths are handled by tmpfs?
[04:59] <reisio> so you're going to work your ram harder instead of your ssd?
[04:59] <reisio> 'mount'
[05:01] <naftilos76> reisio, yes that is correct but i already new the answer to my question "df -h"
[05:01] <naftilos76> that would list all fs
[05:02] <reisio> why ask a question you know the answer to
[05:03] <naftilos76> reisio, i just realized man
[05:03] <ObrienDave> just to see who's paying attention
[05:03] <naftilos76> ObrienDave, correct :-)
[05:04] <ObrienDave> +1
[05:04] <naftilos76> got me there...
[05:05] <reisio> :p
[05:12] <gry> momo_: okay. I am sorry for the delay. I don't know how to encrypt home directory or how it works, but if you ask the question in full (saying that you were encrypting your home directory, and that it's empty), then someone else may be able to help you.
[05:12] <gry> momo_: (Include a list of files in ~/.Private while you do so.)
[05:15] <slawomir> google
[05:16] <reisio> slawomir: who can argue with that
[05:24] <_brk_k> gud mornin folks. I have a laptop which is runing ubuntu 14.04 and my brother has windows 8.1 on his pc, now I am trying to establisha blutooth connection between the two. all is almost fine, I can send and receive files on both machines, but I am not able to access the shared folders on any of these machines, plus I am looking for a way to send an
[05:24] <_brk_k> d recieve messages between the two machines.
[05:24] <_brk_k> how can I do that?
[05:25] <_brk_k> a kind of bluechat??
[05:25] <reisio> _brk_k: xmpp client
[05:26] <_brk_k> that needs internet??
[05:27] <_brk_k> reisio : does that need Internet access?
[05:27] <reisio> nope
[05:27] <reisio> nothing really needs internet access
[05:28] <reisio> if you could connect to this IRC network directly, you wouldn't need internet access to use it
[05:28] <reisio> the internet is just a very large network
[05:28] <reisio> a very large, convenient network
[05:29] <_brk_k> ok, I see. but can you please tell me how to get this xmpp running on these two machines, cause there seems to be no actual network between them
[05:29] <_brk_k> no tcp ip i mean
[05:30] <_brk_k> or at least it seems that way to me
[05:49] <Smilerut> is there any way to have a setup without a DE that still looks nice
[05:49] <Smilerut> every time someone shows me one it's boring as hell
[05:50] <gry> depends on how you define 'looks nice'
[05:50] <pratik> Hi, I am running a command from one machine on another machine using ssh.
[05:50] <pratik>  ssh <host> a.pl
[05:50] <pratik> Now, a.pl starts several other instances of a.pl using the 'system' method and executing each of them in the background. I have this integrated with LDAP and when one of the instances dies, the main a.pl script comes to know about this as it continuously keeps on monitoring them. I would expect ssh to exit when this main script dies. But, somehow it seems that ssh keeps on waiting on all the processes that were launched. ssh exits wh
[05:50] <pratik> Why is this so??
[05:50] <ObrienDave> Smilerut, no, you get either command line only or GUI
[05:50] <Smilerut> ObrienDave: GUI feels a tad too bloated, is there anything I can do about that
[05:51] <ObrienDave> Smilerut, you can get themes to suit your "tastes"
[05:51] <gry> Smilerut, type 'ubuntu' into a web images search engine. I have some taste but I am sure it is not the same as yours.
[05:51] <ObrienDave> Smilerut, yea, don't install so much garbage on your desktop ;P
[05:51] <Smilerut> ObrienDave: no I mean uh
[05:51] <Smilerut> this is what I have now http://imgur.com/LQDJ3XW
[05:52] <Smilerut> this looks a bit too...well, filled with stuff
[05:53] <ObrienDave> ROFL dont open so many windows. use a DE with multiple workspaces. like xfce
[05:53] <Smilerut> ObrienDave: I have multiple workspaces
[05:53] <Smilerut> but I don't want that
[05:53] <ObrienDave> can't help ya then
[05:53] <Smilerut> I want multiple workspaces AND a multiple window setup
[05:53] <Smilerut> like, I'd have each workspace filled with 3 or maybe 4 windows
[05:53] <Smilerut> like a tiling wm without the tiling wm
[05:54] <ObrienDave> *face palms and walks away*
[05:55] <gry> Smilerut, I am looking at http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Common_Desktop_Environment (randomly) and it is in categories 'desktop enhancement' and 'x' linked at the right bottom. Unfortunately there is no 'desktop environment' category yet but you could try clicking and browsing these two.
[05:55] <Smilerut> alright thanks
[05:55] <gry> Smilerut, looking up 'desktop environment' in the Ubuntu Software center should also work.
[05:56] <Smilerut> yeah I've looked through some DEs
[05:56] <Smilerut> I have a handful installed
[05:57] <gry> GNUstep could be a nice thing to try, if you're up to learning objc and doing something that you feel is missing.
[05:57] <pratik> Hi, can anyone comment on the problem I have mentioned above?
[05:58] <gry> pratik: hi, message got cut off at "ssh exits wh".
[05:58] <santosh_> hi
[05:59] <santosh_> expert anybody can tell me... how ubuntu provides support for openstack release..
[05:59] <santosh_> means . after how much time ubuntu provides support for openstack release///
[06:00] <pratik> gry: I am pasting the message again
[06:00] <santosh_> gap between openstack release and ubuntu release for that openstack release..
[06:01] <pratik> ssh <host> a.pl
[06:01] <somsip> santosh_: packages are supported for as long as that version of ubuntu is supported
[06:01] <pratik> Now, a.pl starts several other instances of a.pl using the 'system' method and executing each of them in the background. I have this integrated with LDAP and when one of the instances dies, the main a.pl script comes to know about this as it continuously keeps on monitoring them. I would expect ssh to exit when this main script dies. But, somehow it seems that ssh keeps on waiting on all the processes that were launched. ssh exits wh
[06:01] <pratik> Why is this so?
[06:02] <santosh_> somsip: thanks for your response... just have specific question that.. suppose today liberty is release .. when my ubuntu relaese will come to support fetaure for liberty
[06:03] <pratik> gry: to elaborate further, on killing one of the a.pl instances, the main a.pl script exits, and remaiining a.pl instances get owned by init (1)
[06:03] <somsip> santosh_: what is liberty?
[06:03] <santosh_> openstack release
[06:03] <somsip> santosh_: and what is your version of ubuntu?
[06:04] <santosh_> somsip: I am sorry i think i am not putting my question correctly..
[06:04] <easyOnMe> how  do I know whehter my ubuntu laptop is compromised
[06:05] <santosh_> somsip: my query is what is the time gap between a openstack release and ubuntu release...supporting that specific openstack release..
[06:06] <ObrienDave> santosh_, ubuntu's primary goal is stability of the OS. very RARELY will you get the newest software in the offical repos
[06:06] <somsip> santosh_: depends whether the new release is a major or minor release. IIRC major releases will never be included in an existing release of ubuntu, minor releases will be included in non-LTS but not in LTS, and only bug/security fixes included in LTS
[06:08] <santosh_> do i need to pay for ubuntu LTS release ?
[06:08] <cfhowlett> santosh_, no
[06:08] <ObrienDave> no
[06:08] <ObrienDave> santosh_, 14.04 is the latest LTS
[06:08] <santosh_> do i need to pay for ubuntu server which is LTS ?
[06:09] <ObrienDave> no
[06:09] <ObrienDave> you don't need to pay for ANY open source Ubuntu version
[06:09] <santosh_> thanks guys for your explanation :)
[06:09] <cfhowlett> santosh_, you don't *need* to pay for ubuntu support, but if the volunteer and public support is insufficient, you can consider paying for dedicated support from Canonical
[06:10] <santosh_> Ubuntu can be used clearly for openstack production deployment right ? and which is free also..
[06:11] <ObrienDave> don't see why not
[06:13] <lala> Ubuntu is Linux.
[06:13] <lala> Not Unix.
[06:13] <santosh_> my last query - Suppose today i am working on ubuntu 14.04 LTS server for openstack, and suppose a new release for openstack comes with one specifc feature "ABC".... how will i ensure that this "ABC"
[06:13] <somsip> lala: no. Ubuntu uses the linux kernel.
[06:13] <lala> Good.
[06:13] <santosh_> comes to my existing deployment ?
[06:14]  * ObrienDave knows nothing about openstack
[06:15] <wileee> santosh_, By being skilled enough to use it, if not in the release.
[06:15] <santosh_> means ubutu will give that OS specific support ?
[06:16] <cfhowlett> santosh_, OS?  ubuntu IS the OS.
[06:16] <santosh_> cfhowlett: yes Ubuntu is OS...
[06:17] <santosh_> cfhowlett: Means when ubuntu will provide its support for "ABC" feature of openstack..
[06:18] <wileee> santosh_, Support is on OS's not EOL OS's and packages from the Ubuntu repos
[06:18] <cfhowlett> santosh_, new features are sometimes backported to earlier *buntus.  if it's a feature you just can't live without and it's NOT backported, you can upgrade to a new version of ubuntu.  #openstack seems to be rolled into ubuntu fairly rapidly but NOT instantly.
[06:18] <santosh_> cfhowlett: great !! so thats my query when this will be backported ...means time frame ?
[06:19] <cfhowlett> santosh_, when the package maintainers do it ...
[06:19] <santosh_> cfhowlett: Approximately after how much time..
[06:20] <cfhowlett> santosh_, you'd have to ask openstack.  it's their project, not ubuntu's.
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[06:20] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: how do I know whether my ubuntu laptop is compromised by chinese bots
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[06:21] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: my laptop starts to get slower these days
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[06:22] <hayyou> L   v    ?   v   $   i   u   @   <   /
[06:22] <gry> hayyou: your google sky question again?
[06:22] <hayyou> n   0   X   [   L   `   p   I    O   P   ?   L   "   ]   +   k    Y       U   G   1   m   u       5   &   <   <   K   .   (   F       Q      {   r   :   ^   K    #   j   i   Z
[06:22] <hayyou>   B   r   \   `    V   d   5   v   _   c   8   ^
[06:22] <cfhowlett> !ops hayyou vote for ban.
[06:22] <hayyou> !ops | somsip is attempting to lure me into having sex with him, I'M A TEENAGER
[06:22] <pack^> easyOnMe: do a fresh install. freshen the system
[06:22] <hayyou> y   P      D   8   w   [   p    .   "   W   ,   G   F   l   d    >   /   ;   =   q   }   F   i    a   -   X   T   `   n   f   L    {   e   H   R   +   \   )   s    N   (   $   g   Y
[06:22] <hayyou> u   ;   r    {   m   <   A   C   (      q
[06:22] <easyOnMe> hayyou: please do not flood
[06:22] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: it was not behaving like this before
[06:22] <hayyou> z   Y   l   &   H   h   p   &    t   K   F       A   4   q   F    <   ,   d   g   s      E       v   /   <   c   K   K   n   b    |   Q      D   ]   A   f   D    s   [   i   (
[06:22] <hayyou> ?   `   >   `    J   `   b   D   $   /   ]   ~
[06:22] <easyOnMe> that is what I meant
[06:22] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, before WHEN?
[06:23] <hayyou> ^   p   Z   K   n   4   M   !    X   g   ,   S   c       ?   9    Y   B   t   p   U   `   \   )    g   w   ]   (   n   x   T   ?    &   G   e   u   #   _   d   r    l   `   }   E   z   w
[06:23] <hayyou> [   V    /   !   p   |   2   h   %   4
[06:23] <easyOnMe> like six months ago
[06:23] <hayyou>    g   /   A      !      +    <   c   w   \   l   .   A   ?    P   m   +   #   ,   R   I   W    D   c          (   ,      e    /   c   S   D   V   V   _   h    z   ]   j   K   {
[06:23] <hayyou> R   -   m    u   v   a   4   }   <   N   !
[06:23] <somsip> !ignore
[06:23] <hayyou> I   "   A   J   #   ;   z   x    d   ,   +   g   j   .   2   J    n   p   K   )   n   H      >    M   t   c      d   <   |   E    U   s   ?      u   K   I   Q    I   V   M   2   %
[06:23] <hayyou> X   H   {    E   w   >   q   ?   Q   W   -
[06:23] <hayyou> <   j   E   (   y   :   k   @    N   %   >   )   K   s   "   C    /   M   {   }   <   m   y   .    R   o   &   a   a   `   -   z    t       8   r   ]   r   !   -    O      f   q
[06:23] <hayyou> Z   a   D   4       =   m   "   f   X      r
[06:23] <hayyou> S   z   1   z   9   @   H   u    X      R   t   ,   $   :   [    !   s   L   ^      '   N   G    V   U   W   O   %   a   ;   t    d   =   s   F   }   M   P   2    M   C   %   ?   @   V
[06:23] <hayyou>   Q   J    E   /   y   (   j   >   .   s
[06:23] <hayyou> a   '   3   .      }   <   J    <   "   ,      D   O   b   ]    y   B   [   ]   W   /      Y    *   B   %   +   c      c   F    H   x   -   z   c   k   L   j    ]   ]   m   [   L
[06:23] <hayyou> c   y   *    W   )   y   B   ~   L   0   a
[06:23] <hayyou> C   c   ^      Z   Z      R       }   >   "   ]   q   J   !    1   `   +   _   '   $   0   :    x   x   Y   L   =   M   \   F        $   *      Y   R   \   :    '   L   L   N
[06:23] <hayyou> a   8   H   )    %   M   P   y   C   q   E   /
[06:23] <easyOnMe> /!ignore hayyou
[06:24] <hayyou> "   X   S   <   o      L   Z    c   h   j   C   t   F   q   E    }   :   V   5   ?   J   3   7    )   -   `   h   U   *   G   %    W   D   @   z   -   &   :   e    9   W   &   H
[06:24] <hayyou> e   ]   j   n    &   l   #      P   2   >   !
[06:24] <somsip> easyOnMe: just '/ignore hayyou'
[06:24] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, fresh install + firewall enabled + ad/pop-up blocker + stay away from funky websites will solve most of your issues.
[06:24] <hayyou> w   H   D   G   X   )      L    J      d   <   a   &   _   e    ~   S   &   W   {   h   '   $    v   L   Z   T   v   B      "    '   9   d   y   (   i   R   p    '   '   +
[06:24] <hayyou> 3      U   V   )    D      :   [   k      =   =
[06:24] <hayyou> 9   ^   p   (   I   r   P   ]    z   U   S   g   b   S   F   v       o   B   m   i   R                z   G   `   O   q   u    W   }   1   H   @   g   H   t    c   Z   /   o   R
[06:24] <hayyou> ?   W   G    k   '   4   @   _   L   ~   ;
[06:24] <easyOnMe> somsip: how to type the command of ignoring hayyou
[06:24] <hayyou>    !   (      "   [   %   "       K   X   $   d         r    t   v      :   X   u      p    $   Q   U   J   \   v   M   @    U   F   K   y   U   V   H   I    }   P   r   u   {
[06:24] <hayyou> -   a   k    r   P   h      T   )   M   J
[06:24] <somsip> easyOnMe: just told you
[06:24] <hayyou> a   w   #   p   q   C   B   l    4   s   R   K   K   =   ,   M    E   ?   -   X   &   F   x   =    <   |   ;   2   F   x   ?   z    "   :         S   b   )   ~    }   k   P   O
[06:24] <hayyou> %   @   C   <       E   /   \   ,   v   y   M
[06:24] <hayyou> |   5   f   L   D   j   i   k    .   p   I   b   i   z   l   &    )   Z   B   m   a   r   g   a    o   p   m   [   4   $   k   o    O   /   [   +   `   p   q   A    .   y   I   Y
[06:24] <hayyou>    ;   {   j    (   c      ^   V   ^   n   l
[06:24] <cfhowlett> on hexchat, right click on nick and then ignore.  it works.
[06:24] <hayyou> @   b   S   _   F   l   3   f    \   o   r   |   {      i   Z    2   !         r   u   E   '    /   ?   )   +      ,   @       >   <   k   .      ,   \   @    &   c   -   D
[06:24] <hayyou> U   F   U       ;   ,   v   N   i   *   V   <
[06:25] <easyOnMe> somsip: like this you mean !ignore hayyou
[06:25] <hayyou> yep it's my question again
[06:25] <hayyou> ^   L   :      _   _   [   f    o   "   Q   I   ?   X      ~    {   S   5   K   h   >   F   *    A   V   U   F   ^   W   o   "    |   J   >   #   P   O   o   K    x   R          ;
[06:25] <SkyBaby> >   o   ?    -   U   N   +   $   G   Y   !
[06:25] <SkyBaby>    o   E   '   N   T   ?   1    )   W   P   L   Q   ]   l   N    u   !   -   X   *   %   O   "    )   r   <   l   "   v   A   N    2   g   9   4   +   ?   ~   U    t   C   U   :   Q
[06:25] <SkyBaby> b   m   .    *      ]   w   )   d   |   h
[06:25] <SkyBaby> R   *   ^   2   N   U   :   5    z   J   |   $   `   o   _   q    G   K   f   u   6   c   k   r    b   Q   x   v   D   :   N   /    z   j   M   8   F   $   F   ]    ,   <   4
[06:25] <SkyBaby> J   D      }    s   "   |   J   6   t   z   b
[06:25] <somsip> easyOnMe: don't nother asking me again as you're ignored too
[06:25] <Diittosword> lol how foolish
[06:25] <SkyBaby> +   K   -   T   H   ^   *       <   Y   b   +   8   l      p    x   /   a   u   Y   T   x   R       ?   '   v   Y      :        [   B   F   =   w   o   f   s    B   ?   x   ;   a
[06:25] <SkyBaby> {   s   a    H      '   A   d   %   "   J
[06:25] <lasers> !ops
[06:25] <SkyBaby> :   }   Q   0   h   c   :   :    _   m   &   f   ^   y   z   ~    }         )   ]   V      }    f   s   +   J   y   y   K   e    i   !   ]   E   w   W   U   R    ?   }   /   S   $
[06:25] <SkyBaby> _   ?   $    z      z   S   b      7   =
[06:25] <easyOnMe> /!ignore SkyBaby
[06:25] <SkyBaby> ,   q   q   [   E   q   (   ^    {   q   }   l   u   V   h   ]    b   |   ,   N   %   i   v   M       p   Q   N   Z   &   ,   u    e   |   Y   y   j   o   Q   2    #   n   ^   G   [
[06:25] <SkyBaby>   3   t   Q    U   H   B   U   $   c   !   0
[06:26] <easyOnMe> !ignore SkyBaby
[06:26] <Diittosword>  Do /ignore *!*@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe6e:ed1a
[06:26] <SkyBaby>     A   M      i   x   Q   `    %   <   %   C   *      i   D    b   "   N   }   G   O   -   ;    %   G   *   *   X   S   z   H    Q   }      Z   F   g   *   ^    V   Y   7   0
[06:26] <SkyBaby> (   H   r   D    N   *   a   ]   )   Q      J
[06:26] <SkyBaby> L      o   N   .   I   m   +    y   [   !   d   X      a   ,    v   "   y   U   V      q   "    Z   M   .   z         7   T    y   r   J   /   g   ?   q   y    R   G   -   |   H   W
[06:26] <SkyBaby>   ?   ^    P   G   z   ?   E      [
[06:26] <SkyBaby> ,   Y   ~   y      [   i   ^    n   <   E   ~   z   t   >   p    z   a   B   G   ;   a   h   E    d   t   +       a   [   {       R   \   b   W   `   `   ?   {    w      _   :   '   l
[06:26] <SkyBaby>   s   n    ;   W   T   $      .   m   p
[06:26] <pack^> or /ignore SkyBaby all
[06:26] <Diittosword> Do /ignore *!*@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe6e:ed1a
[06:26] <phatlynx> phatlynx
[06:26] <easyOnMe> pack^: but it keeps on saying this: !- Unknown Command: ignore
[06:27] <pack^> easyOnMe: what kind of chat client are you using?
[06:27] <Diittosword> smuxi
[06:27] <phatlynx> phatlynx: me
[06:27] <easyOnMe> ubuntu@freenode(IRC)-Smuxi
[06:28] <phatlynx> phatlynx
[06:30] <santosh_> Thanks
[06:31] <mobile3> any Ubuntu 14.04 VPS user here ?
[06:32] <Diittosword> me
[06:34] <mobile3> Diittosword : have you used Webuzo control panel ?
[06:34] <Diittosword> mobile3: nope
[06:34] <mobile3> Can you help me in configuring 4 IP ?
[06:34] <ObrienDave> dang, and i missed all the excitement ;P
[06:35] <Diittosword> mobile3: sorry busy
[06:35] <cq-aux> hi,
[06:35] <mobile3> Diittosword: hmmm
[06:36] <cq-aux> how do I "completely" shutdown networking (avahi-daemon,wpa_supplicant) (avahi respawns instantly) so I can successfully change completely my mac address (ofc temporarily that's fine)
[06:37] <cq-aux> (I mention avahi-daemon and wpa_supplicant because I was warned about them when starting airmon-ng on wlan0)
[06:38] <pack^> using kali linux?
[06:38] <cq-aux> I just can't find the answers on the web,.. "lol@pack >> v. good answer"
[06:38] <ubuntu-mate> hi
[06:39] <cq-aux> heya
[06:39] <xangua> pack^: not supported here
[06:39] <pack^> xangua: don't tell me. Tell him.
[06:39] <cfhowlett> cq-aux, kali is in no way, shape or form supported in this channel.  sorry.
[06:39] <cfhowlett> !kali | cq-aux
[06:40] <cq-aux> I was told about macchanger, and ip link set dev, and ifconfig <interface> down && ifconfig <interface> hw ether <new mac> ,, and these worked at first but then stopped working for some reason that I 'have no idea about'
[06:41] <cfhowlett> cq-aux, dude.  stop.  no kali support here.  go to the proper resources as shown in the link.
[06:41] <cq-aux> no I'm on ubuntu, with network-manager, avahi-daemon etc
[06:42] <cq-aux> this is not about kalilinux this is about ubuntu
[06:45] <cq-aux> ok. I've found (another!) possible solution,.. I'll go and try it
[06:47]  * stareyes is back (gone 08:05:44)
[06:49] <ObrienDave> stareyes, get rid of the join/away messages of face the ire of the OPS
[06:49] <ObrienDave> *or face
[06:50] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: noted with thanks
[06:51] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, happy2help!
[06:57] <opoio> i'm trying to install skype, but am getting the following problem: http://paste.debian.net/286433/
[06:58] <wileee> opoio, Use the repos
[06:58] <wileee> !skype
[06:58] <opoio> wileee: i'm on debian
[06:59] <cfhowlett> opoio, then you're in the wrong channel.  ask #debian
[06:59] <wileee> opoio, Than go mask #debian
[06:59] <wileee> ask*
[06:59] <cfhowlett> wileee, Then     ftfy
[06:59] <ObrienDave> !debian | opoio
[06:59] <OerHeks> opoio, easy, install libasound2-plugins:i386 & libasound2-plugins
[07:00] <wileee> I will ignore the grammar police permanently
[07:00] <opoio> OerHeks: http://paste.debian.net/286437/
[07:01] <OerHeks> opoio, why posting here, read your bugreport last line man..
[07:02] <mobile3> Any webuzo VPS user here ?
[07:02] <wileee> cfhowlett, If I exspecting to0 br graded I wood act2ly ceer
[07:02]  * ObrienDave does not want to know what webuzo is ;P
[07:03] <OerHeks> mobile3, it is not in our repo's, you might better try #ubuntu-server ?
[07:03] <mobile3> no user there...
[07:04] <OerHeks> mobile3, no you there...
[07:05] <mobile3> OerHeks: I am there...
[07:11] <slvrby_> hi guys
[07:12] <slvrby_> I remember that there used to be a command in ubuntu terminal that would give all the details about compiling capabilities of the system
[07:12] <slvrby_> is there such a command at all?
[07:13] <slvrby_> am I muted?
[07:13] <slvrby_> hello?
[07:14] <DJones> slvrby_: We can see you messages, its just a bit quiet at the moment
[07:14] <ObrienDave> slvrby_, we see you
[07:14] <slvrby_> ok
[07:14] <slvrby_> thankx
[07:14] <kishan> !windows
[07:14] <ObrienDave> kishan, no bot abuse ;P
[07:18] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:18] <ObrienDave> o/
[07:18] <ObrienDave> ;P
[07:19] <lordievader> Hehe
[07:19] <lordievader> o/
[07:21] <OerHeks> So what should compiling capabilities be on commandline? apt-cache search gcc ?
[07:21] <lordievader> OerHeks: ./configure -> make -> make install?
[07:21] <nils_> build-essential maybe what you're looking for
[07:21] <nils_> compilers, make etc.
[07:22] <slvrby_> OerHeks : hi, no I mean all the compile capabilities of ubuntu at the moment, like for fortran, java, python, c, c++ and every other possible thing
[07:22] <slvrby_> I have build-essential and jdk already installed
[07:22] <lordievader> slvrby_: If you install the compiler for it you can compile it.
[07:22] <slvrby_> and they are working just fine
[07:23] <slvrby_> I just want to know what exactly can I run or compile from source on my machine at the momenbt
[07:23] <slvrby_> like what can my machine compile
[07:23] <lordievader> Anything, if you have the compiler.
[07:23] <slvrby_> with current configuration
[07:23] <OerHeks> oh, something like this>>  dpkg --list | grep compiler
 : yes exactly, but this command doesn't list jdk
[07:24] <slvrby_> while I have it and I can compile with javac
[07:25] <pratik> gry: any idea about the ssh problem I mentioned?
[07:25] <slvrby_> EriC^^ : hi EriC^^, how you doing?
[07:26] <EriC^^> hi slvrby_ good, you?
[07:26] <slvrby_> thanks mate
[07:26] <slvrby_> just doin fine
[07:26] <EriC^^> what's up?
[07:26] <slvrby_> with me? or with the channel?
[07:27] <EriC^^> you
[07:27] <slvrby_> well I am trying to get a detailed info report on my compiling capabilities of my machine
[07:27] <slvrby_> dpkg --list | grep compiler   was suggested, but it doesn't list everything
[07:28] <slvrby_> like it doesn't list my javac
[07:28] <slvrby_> I want to know what my machine can compile exactly, with current installed compilers and configurations
[07:28] <OerHeks> some equelevant of the fedora command 'yum groupinfo "Development tools" ?
[07:29] <OerHeks> there is no such extended info i guess.
[07:29] <slvrby_> I am not familiar with fedora commands that much, but yes maybe
[07:29] <OerHeks> slvrby_, i think you need to examin that per language.
[07:30] <nils_> There is a Section attribute I think which you can probably somehow query (Section: devel for gcc for example)
[07:30] <nils_> but this will probably list all dev headers as well
[07:30] <EriC^^> slvrby_: why don't you use something like a configure file that checks what you have
[07:30] <slvrby_> EriC^^ : I have no idea what that means... I mean practically
[07:31] <ali_> hello
[07:32] <slvrby_> EriC^^ : btw I am not trying to check and see if my code would compile or not, I just want to make a profile, and if someone asked a question like: "what can you run, or what can you compile on your machine" then I would give him this list and say here is what I can compile or run from code
[07:33] <slvrby_> on this specific machine, at this time and date, with this configuration
[07:34] <slvrby_> I remember a few years ago I saw a piece of script or software, i don't remember exactly, that did something like this
[07:34] <slvrby_> on debian
[07:35] <OerHeks> slvrby_, oke, then showing what you can do on comandline is pretty useless, show the development section in softwarecenter/synaptic ( i prefer synaptic)
[07:35] <slvrby_> But I don't have all the things from dev section of software center installed on my machine
[07:36] <slvrby_> I only have gcc and java and a few fortran thingies
[07:36] <Bluewolf> Hi all, If I were to completely remove the Unity flavour and everything attached to it, would this be the right command? - http://paste.ubuntu.com/11947147/
[07:36] <slvrby_> oh and ofcourse python by default, but stil I want an official list... any ways thank you guys I think we have spent enough time on my problem
[07:37] <Bluewolf> I am using Ubuntu 14.04
[07:37] <cfhowlett> Bluewolf, 1.  why?  2.  proceed with caution.  unity is tightly integrated in ubuntu.  disabling/removing unity could break things. 3.  consider a different flavor
[07:37] <cfhowlett> !flavor | Bluewolf
[07:38] <lordievader> Bluewolf: !purekde
[07:38] <lordievader> !purekde | Bluewolf
[07:38] <lordievader> Other way round...
[07:39] <cfhowlett> there is no !pureunity   Think about that.
[07:39] <EriC^^> actually pure unity means just unity installed
[07:39] <ObrienDave> Bluewolf, that command would certainly leave you with a half borked system
[07:39] <OerHeks> !puregnome > OerHeks
[07:41] <Bluewolf> cfhowlett: I disagree with unity, I have the Gnome flavour installed and want it to remain purely gnome. Basically everything to do with unity that is of no use to me with Gnome, I would like off my machine with only important operating system software remaining if it has to.
[07:41] <lordievader> Bluewolf: Anyhow, it is usually easier to install a different flavour fresh then trying to remove a previous one.
[07:41] <cfhowlett> Bluewolf, so download ubuntu-gnome and install that flavor.  much less likely to bork things.
[07:42] <Bluewolf> lordievader: I have gnome installed, just remnants of unity to remove and then a happier life :D
[07:42] <pragomer1> I remastered (manually via chroot) ubuntu 14.04 and 15.04. In both I installed "virtualbox-guest-utils". In 15.04 fullscreen in vbox works, in 14.04 the guest additions seem to be non active.. do you have an explanation for this?
[07:43] <Bluewolf> cfhowlett: bork things, I have Gnome installed?
[07:43] <cfhowlett> Bluewolf, you like gnome.  you don't like unity.  so INSTALL ubuntu-gnome flavor and be done with it.
[07:44] <ObrienDave> if it's not hurting anything, WHY do you want to take a chance on killing your system?
[07:44] <cfhowlett> Bluewolf, REMOVING components from a tightly integrated unity/ubuntu has the potential to bork things.  installing gnome, in and of itself, does not.
[07:44] <cyberalex4life> Bluewolf, I tried once installing gnome shell together with unity and some things didn't work fine
[07:45] <diffract|> how can i disable alt-left mouse click on ubuntu 14.94?
[07:45] <diffract|> i use it for some applications
[07:45] <ObrienDave> 14.94? ;p
[07:45] <cyberalex4life> diffract|, If I recall, from compiz
[07:46] <diffract|> oh
[07:47] <Bluewolf> cfhowlett: Yes thats what I am doing, but I want to remove the unity because its causing a number of annoying glitches and bugs I really don't have time to fix or learn to fix, specially when I don't like it. I only said on removing what can be removed of unity. If I were to reinstall Ubuntu (The same one) with a live Gnome USB then there would not be any traces of Unity in it would there?
[07:49] <wileee> yes
[07:49] <wileee> nothing is removed lol
[07:49] <cfhowlett> Bluewolf, your system, your choice.  You seem determined to go the riskier route. As has been suggested - repeatedly - you COULD just install https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME  but hey, you're the boss.  Good luck. No further advice from me on this issue.
[07:54] <Bluewolf> cfhowlett: look I don't mean to be a pest on the issue, I am rather unsure about the whole thing and most likely don't know enough about linux to understand the stuff. I'm just throwing questions in an attempt to get answers.
[07:55] <ObrienDave> Bluewolf, we have given you what we consider to be the SAFEST answers. If you want to scalp your OS, your choise
[07:55] <ObrienDave> *choice
[07:55] <wileee> I run the shell release there is unity core in it,
[07:57] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: Okay, like I said I don't know enough to do that. Thanks.
[07:58] <EriC^^> Bluewolf: if you're feeling experimental check here http://paste.ubuntu.com/11947218/
[07:58] <wileee> Bluewolf, Use the mini net install next time, and load what you want.
[07:58] <EriC^^> i dont know if it's right though, use at your own risk :D
[07:59] <AppAraat> hi, I have 14.04, trying to run rtorrent. Somehow despite many attempts I still get the error "rtorrent: Could not lock session directory: "/home/me/Download/torrents/", No such file or directory"
[07:59] <AppAraat> this is my conf - http://apaste.info/dsB
[07:59] <Bluewolf> EriC^^: Thanks but I think I will play it safe.
[08:00] <EriC^^> alright
[08:00] <AppAraat> I tried changing "directory = ~/Download/" to  "directory = ./Download/" and even with full path, no luck.
[08:00] <AppAraat> chmodding everything from Downloads folder to 777 also didn't work.
[08:00] <EriC^^> gave out a hell of a long list
[08:00] <EriC^^> the logic makes sense though so i dunno
[08:00] <AppAraat> also, there is no rtorrent.lock anywhere in those dirs.
[08:01] <EriC^^> it checks if an ubuntu desktop dependency is in gnome-desktop's dependency, if not, adds it to the list
[08:03] <Ben64> AppAraat: use full paths everywhere
[08:05] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: Is the unity software spread throughout the Ubuntu system or is it mealy a flavour like any other, for example: If I were to download a Gnome, Lubuntu or Xubuntu live CD's and install one of them on my PC, do they have unity software in the base system or the flavours software?
[08:06] <EriC^^> Bluewolf: it's just a de
[08:06] <Bluewolf> EriC^^: DE?
[08:06] <OerHeks> Bluewolf, if you format current partitions, no
[08:07] <wileee> You will have to exorcise your OS
[08:07] <ObrienDave> DE - Desktop Environment
[08:07] <EriC^^> lol
[08:07] <AppAraat> Ben64: but I tried doing that, still same error.
[08:07] <Ben64> AppAraat: pastebin full command and error
[08:07] <wileee> my gnome only has unity in it, out of site, no DE
[08:08] <Bluewolf> Oh okay
[08:08] <coffeecupp> anyone using bspwm on here???
[08:09] <ObrienDave> Bluewolf, the "core" system is the same for all flavors of Ubuntu, you just install different DEs and WMs (Window Managers)
[08:09] <Bluewolf> wileee: So you installed with Unity then just added the Gnome flavour, so unity runs in the background?
[08:09] <wileee> Bluewolf, Nope it is the shell release
[08:09] <wileee> gnome shell
[08:09] <OerHeks> coffeecupp, is it in softwarecenter?
[08:10] <EriC^^> how does gnome not have software-center installed? i wonder if apt-rdepends has a bug in it
[08:10] <coffeecupp> nope its a window manager
[08:10] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: Thank you, that now puts things into perspective for me.
[08:10] <EriC^^> O.o
[08:10] <ObrienDave> Bluewolf, most welcome
[08:10] <OerHeks> coffeecupp, i know what wm means, but not what i asked
[08:11] <ObrienDave> Bluewolf, I run Xubuntu, Uses XFCE as the DE
[08:11] <coffeecupp> No its not on there.
[08:11] <AppAraat> Ben64: rtorrent: Could not lock session directory: "/home/me/Download/torrents/", No such file or directory
[08:11] <wileee> Bluewolf, The gnome release is a modified ubuntu, not a build, so a mini install may be different, but as suggested the base system shares.
[08:11] <AppAraat> and the command is simply rtorrent
[08:12] <EriC^^> AppAraat: is your username "me" ?
[08:12] <AppAraat> yes
[08:13] <OerHeks> AppAraat, you did a 777 on that folder?
[08:13] <AppAraat> yes, recursively. I'll try doing that again but using full paths this time.
[08:13] <EriC^^> AppAraat: it's supposed to be /home/e/Downloads not Download i think
[08:14] <EriC^^> i mean /home/me/Downloads
[08:15] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: Okay so Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Mythbuntu are types of OS variations while Unity, Gnome, XFCE, KDE and LXDE are the flavours which can be used on each OS variation of Ubuntu. Am I right?
[08:15] <al2o3-cr> Bluewolf: thumbs up!
[08:15] <EriC^^> Bluewolf: no, ubuntu xubuntu etc. are ubuntu with xfce ubuntu with lxde etc.
[08:17] <ObrienDave> !flavors | Bluewolf, sort of.
[08:17] <AppAraat> EriC^^: you are correct. I should either A.) Get some sleep, considering I've been up 16h straight or B.) Get more coffee.
[08:17] <cfhowlett> Bluewolf, each ubuntu !flavor comes with a specific interface, e.g. lxde, xfce4 AND is packages with a set of default apps.  ALL !flavors are "ubuntu" OS
[08:17] <EriC^^> Bluewolf: ubuntu can come without a de, and you can install whatever de you want, making it xubuntu if you want xfce as the de
[08:18] <AppAraat> EriC^^: since you've pointed out my stupid mistake, I will let you choose over my fate.
[08:18] <brollypop> staying 16h up isnt reallly unusual, for me at least
[08:18] <AppAraat> well yeah I can do it... but the consequences have been noted in this channel :p
[08:19] <ObrienDave> AppAraat, i suggest sleep :)
[08:19] <AppAraat> that is only for EriC^^ to decide at this point :p
[08:20] <EriC^^> me too, unless the fate of the free world lies in your hands, or something to like that
[08:20] <Bluewolf> Okay now I appear to be on the same time line with everyone, thank you for the patience and help ;-)
[08:20] <ObrienDave> just a suggestion ;P
[08:20] <EriC^^> just a suggestion though :P up to you
[08:20] <ObrienDave> Bluewolf, happy to have been of assistance
[08:20]  * AppAraat checks yet again whether earth's existence is dependent on him.
[08:20] <AppAraat> nope, not the case currently.
[08:21] <AppAraat> nap time it is :)
[08:21] <ObrienDave> i would think no ;P
[08:21] <wileee> AppAraat, Mother ship clears you for sleep.
[08:21] <AppAraat> finally!
[08:21] <AppAraat> And as such... the great rest commences...
[08:24] <murcha> is it possible to print a specific raw with awk print{} command?
[08:25] <EriC^^> specific raw?
[08:25] <EriC^^> oh, row?
[08:25] <ObrienDave> ummm, i see "raw" O.o
[08:25] <EriC^^> yeah awk 'NR==<row'
[08:25] <EriC^^> * awk 'NR==<row>'
[08:26] <EriC^^> starts from 1
[08:26] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: Okay next issue, I can't get my laptop to boot off my USB and install Ubuntu. The USB drive is working fine, the hash is correct, I have set USBHD as first of the boot priority but it still does not work. Any idea?
[08:27] <ObrienDave> Bluewolf, what did you use to make the USB?
[08:28] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: Start Up Disk Creator, but boots fine off the other machines I have. In fact its perfect on all other machines.
[08:28] <pragomer1> installing virtualbox-guest-x11 under ubuntu 14.04 I get this error: http://pastebin.com/xgWEiPsK
[08:29] <ObrienDave> Bluewolf, does your laptop have a DVD reader?
[08:30] <amincd> why doesn't my update manager automatically prompt to upgrade to 14.04 from the current 12.04?
[08:30] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: Yes it does and it boots fine off that, ah problem is that I don't have any DVD's :(
[08:30] <amincd> I thought it tried to upgrade to any LTS release, and 14.04 is LTS
[08:30] <OerHeks> amincd, set that in your sources menu/update options menu.
[08:31] <cfhowlett> amincd, default is NOT lts upgrades.  you need to select it.
[08:31] <ObrienDave> Bluewolf, 5 min break, please
[08:31] <OerHeks> you would get that question when 12.04 runs out of support, so 2017
[08:31] <amincd> OerHeks: oh I see
[08:31] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: Sure thing.
[08:33] <amincd> But in my Update Manager settings, the setting is 'Notify me of a new Ubuntu version: For long-term support versions". Shouldn't it therefore be notifying me of 14.04?
[08:34] <EriC^^> yeah
[08:34] <fidel_> amincd: yes
[08:34] <OerHeks> yes, i assumed you did not had that option set
[08:35] <murcha> EriC^^:  thanks worked!
[08:36] <ObrienDave> Bluewolf, beer rent  ;P  does that current USB boot on other machines?
[08:36] <amincd> hmm, so I'm puzzled as to why I've gotten no prompt to update to 14.04
[08:37] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: Yes it does, on the two others I have.
[08:38] <ObrienDave> ok, you can see if you have a USBfloppy setting in BIOS. if not, i suggest burning ISO to DVD and installing from there
[08:38] <Ben64> amincd: you can probably run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade" to upgrade
[08:38] <cfhowlett> amincd, I believe you must have the 12.04.5 for the next LTS to be offered
[08:39]  * ObrienDave has had MUCH better luck using DVD
[08:40] <ObrienDave> Bluewolf, or you can try using unetbootin or yumi to make USB
[08:41] <OerHeks> Bluewolf, i need to set boot in 2 places, in boot priority and hdd priority
[08:42] <ObrienDave> Bluewolf, and there is that also ^^^
[08:42] <EriC^^> murcha: no problem
[08:42] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: In the BIOS there is, USBHDD - Flash Drive or hard drive, USBCD - CD Drive, and USBFDD which I am assuming it Floppy drive?
[08:42] <ObrienDave> USBFDD is floppy drive.
[08:43] <ObrienDave> USBHDD flash should work
[08:44] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: I can use unetbootin in the future, but the flash is working on other machines quite fine. So I have them in this order - USBHDD, USBCD, USBFDD, SATA CD, SATA HDD?
[08:45] <Bluewolf> Its not working in that order.
[08:45] <Bluewolf> Or should I remove USBFDD?
[08:45] <Bluewolf> Disable?
[08:45] <ObrienDave> nope, once it sees USBHDD it wont seek to the next device
[08:46] <OerHeks> maybe put it in a USB2 port, if you run it in USB3 mode
[08:46] <ObrienDave> possibly
[08:46] <OerHeks> did you ever boot usb from that machine before?
[08:47] <ObrienDave> your SATA HDD is last just so you can do things like boot from CD or DVD
[08:48] <Bluewolf> OerHeks: Never, this is my first attempt. And yes I have been attempting to boot from USB3 ports, let me try on the USB2 as all the other machines are that.
[08:48] <ObrienDave> if SATA HDD was first, it would NEVER see the CD or DVD
[08:48] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: Yeah I set it like that in case I boot of a USB or CD
[08:48] <ObrienDave> cool
[08:48] <OerHeks> Bluewolf, i assume there is window 8 on it?
[08:49] <ObrienDave> ah, i did not think of win8
[08:49] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: Yeah I got that a while back when I move onto USB. I have Windows 7 on it.
[08:49] <Bluewolf> OerHeks: Windows 7
[08:49] <OerHeks> not sure windows 7 knows fastboot ..
[08:50] <ObrienDave> if it came with Win8 it's probably a UEFI bios
[08:50] <ObrienDave> you will need to throw UEFI into legacy mode IIRC
[08:51] <ObrienDave> !uefi | Bluewolf
[08:51] <OerHeks> and hdd priority, did you checked that already ?
[08:53] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: It never came with Windows 7 this is the manual - http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/201210/20121028104609083/Win8_Manual_eng.pdf
[08:53] <Bluewolf> OerHeks: Yes I did, its at the bottom and USB2 does not work
[08:54] <ObrienDave> then I would suggest the UEFI link in the above factoid
[08:54] <gry> pratik: I walked away. Your message is AGAIN cut off at the same character; you have to split it manually.
[08:55] <ObrienDave> i'm an OLD BIOS guy, UEFI is too new for me. my wife won't let me touch her Win8 machine ;P
[08:59] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: Hehehhe, Everyone trusts me with their machines, because I know more than they do even though I know so little :D
[09:00] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: Okay so how do I tell what format my Windows was installed in between UEFI and BIOS?
[09:00] <ObrienDave> when i drove a big rig, i would spend most of my 34 hour breaks fixing other drivers computers. grrrrrrrr
[09:01] <qos> Where can i get assistance for a failed launchpad build job?
[09:01] <ObrienDave> Bluewolf, i don't know, i only know UEFI has more settings lie "fastboot" and such
[09:01] <ObrienDave> *like
[09:02] <ObrienDave> qos, launchpad, maybe?
[09:02] <qos> ObrienDave, could you be more exact?
[09:03] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: Okay well in the BIOS, Legacy USB support and UEFI boot are both disabled, does that change anything?
[09:03] <ObrienDave> sorry, no i can't
[09:03] <ObrienDave> Bluewolf, yes, i would think you want legacy USB enabled. but i'm only guessing
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> qos: whats your issue?
[09:05] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: It won't hurt to try right or will it, I'm rather wary of playing in the BIOS, specially with limited knowledge?
[09:06] <qos> lotuspsychje, The job cannot fetch the index base URL (https://pypi.python.org/simple/) of pypi and therefore it cannot install its dependencies.
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> qos: did you add a ppa?
[09:07] <ObrienDave> Bluewolf, i understand. but i don't think changing that will cause irreparable damage. you can change it back if need be.
[09:07] <ObrienDave> Bluewolf, the trick is to change only ONE setting at a time so you know how to fix it if need be :)
[09:07] <qos> lotuspsychje, Nope, just main and universe packages. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/212828448/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-i386.pulseaudio-dlna_0.4.0_BUILDING.txt.gz
[09:08] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: Okay then makes sense, I will enable it and see if it does anything :D
[09:08] <ObrienDave> *crosses fingers* :)
[09:08] <Bluewolf> And toes
[09:08] <ObrienDave> LOL
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> qos: maybe the #python guys might know?
[09:10] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: Huh It works, Its booted off the USB!!!!!! :D
[09:10] <ObrienDave> \o/
[09:11] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: Oky now for the learning part, why would enabling Legacy USB get it working, what is the perpose?
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | Bluewolf alot of usefull info here
[09:13] <ObrienDave> Bluewolf, well, to put it bluntly, it makes the system more idiot proof LOL
[09:14] <ObrienDave> it's a safety thing where Joe Schmoe can't stuff a USB in and bork the whole system :)
[09:15] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: Then that works well for me, as long as its impenetrable. :D
[09:15] <Bluewolf> So now the next question is "do I leave it enabled after installing or disable it"?
[09:16] <ObrienDave> i hate to do this but i need to get to sleep. i work second shift. there are a LOT of great volunteers here that can help you further. *** good luck ***
[09:17] <kuman> Hello
[09:17] <Bluewolf> ObrienDave: Ah before you go would you mind, just that last question?
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> kuman: welcome, how can we help you?
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> Bluewolf: enabling usb or not, is just to be able to load up usb devices at boot
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> Bluewolf: so its your choice really if you wanna enable or disable after ubuntu install
[09:20] <Bluewolf> lotuspsychje: Okay, Pro's and Con's point of view by leaving it enabled or disabled?
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> Bluewolf: leaving it enabled, if someone puts a bootable Os usb in your system, he will be able to install it
[09:21] <EriC^^> or access your files
[09:21] <EriC^^> but if you don't have a bios password set then it's just a tiny layer of security
[09:21] <EriC^^> then again who's going to try to boot a live usb to get your files?
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> the FBI :p
[09:23] <EriC^^> i was thinking tooth fairy, but yeah
[09:23] <Bluewolf> lotuspsychje: Exactly
[09:24] <Bluewolf> Well then there clearly is no point in disabling. Because if someone really wanted to access my files then they would know what to do right? :D
[09:25] <vinyasa> I want to download krita software to install in another system. Kindly anyone help me with this
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> Bluewolf: i always disable booting up other devices after an install, if your system is stable why leave it enabled?
[09:25] <vinyasa> to get offline .deb flie
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> vinyasa: sudo apt-get download krita
[09:25] <inerkick> will it just download the software?
[09:26] <OerHeks> yeah, change nick after asking support :-)
[09:26] <inerkick> complete download actually?.
[09:26] <Bluewolf> lotuspsychje: Fair point, but why disable it - For the minor security reasons or are there other attachments to that question?
[09:26] <inerkick> i want to download to install in another system
[09:26] <blackintruder> just download the .deb file and install it in terminal with command dpkg -i 'package name'
[09:26] <Ben64> it will only work on the same version of ubuntu
[09:27] <inerkick> thanks
[09:27] <inerkick> but it only fetched "0ubuntu3 [4,984 kB]etched 4,984 kB "
[09:28] <Ben64> and thats bad because....?
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> Bluewolf: just install your ubuntu mate :p
[09:28] <EriC^^> inerkick: you might need it's dependencies too
[09:28] <EriC^^> type apt-cache show <package> to see them
[09:28] <inerkick> oh. So it's not possible to download which I can use to in another laptop, isn't?
[09:29] <Ben64> install that deb
[09:29] <EriC^^> it is, you just need to download the dependencies too
[09:29] <Ben64> make sure the ubuntu version is the same
[09:29] <blackintruder> http://pkgs.org/download/krita
[09:29] <Ben64> or just hook up the internet to the other laptop
[09:29] <OerHeks> here 'krita' is 35 packages, 56 mb
[09:29] <EriC^^> inerkick: does the other laptop have kde? seems to be very kde dependent
[09:29] <Bluewolf> lotuspsychje: Okay, I will disable it after install. But only because you said so :D
[09:29] <blackintruder> there you go....thats the link
[09:29] <inerkick> unity
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> Bluewolf: good luck!
[09:30] <Ben64> blackintruder: not really, those aren't ubuntu packages and not supported here
[09:30] <inerkick> in my laptop it is mate.
[09:30] <inerkick> I am using friend's laptop to download krita to use it in  my laptop
[09:30] <Ben64> inerkick: easy way is to hook your laptop up to the internet
[09:30] <EriC^^> inerkick: which ubuntu version do you and him have?
[09:30] <inerkick> may be. But I want this file to install in few more laptops too
[09:30] <EriC^^> inerkick: i think Ben64 is right
[09:31] <blackintruder> @Ben64 what version is the OS
[09:31] <inerkick> I installed Ubuntu 14.04, unity, mine is ubuntu mate 14.04, and my brother's is lxde
[09:31] <Bluewolf> lotuspsychje: Thank you for the help, and when you next see ObrienDave on thank him as well for me. I appreciate the valuable help and information given.
[09:31] <EriC^^> inerkick: you can't hook it up to the net?
[09:31] <inerkick> now this system freezes often
[09:31] <Skyrider> Is there a way to import a database (mysql) starting from a specific line?
[09:32] <Bluewolf> EriC^^: You too, thank you for the help.
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> Bluewolf: i will mate!
[09:32] <EriC^^> maybe use his connection as a hot spot?
[09:32] <EriC^^> Bluewolf: no problem
[09:32] <inerkick> no, i can't . :( so is the reason i was looking for deb file
[09:32] <Ben64> inerkick: it freezes often so you want to install krita?
[09:32] <inerkick> just recently it started freezing
[09:32] <EriC^^> inerkick: if his laptop has net, you can make it a hotspot and use the wifi on yours
[09:32] <Ben64> solve the freezing issue first, and figure out how to get internet on it
[09:32] <inerkick> my laptop works fine
[09:32] <inerkick> anyway i need to have .deb file since my brother don't have internet.
[09:33] <Ben64> you're on the internet right now, just hook the other one up
[09:33] <blackintruder> download with ur comp the transfer the .deb file to his the u install...its that easy..
[09:33] <OerHeks> see , you would get the download option http://i.imgur.com/8Zg6yjp.png
[09:34] <OerHeks> 35 packages
[09:35] <Bluewolf> OerHeks: Oh and thanks too for the assist.
[09:35] <blackintruder> Does anyone know how to create an msvenom payload that is totally undetectable by virus total??
[09:35] <Bluewolf> Thanks and Cheers all. . . .
[09:35] <blackintruder> msfvenom...sorry..
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> blackintruder: hacking issues are not allowed here
[09:35] <Ben64> blackintruder: not the channel, or the network probably for that
[09:35] <blackintruder> am not hacking
[09:36] <OerHeks> Bluewolf, have fun
[09:37] <OerHeks> blackintruder, metasploit is offtopic here
[09:37] <Bluewolf> :D
[09:37] <blackintruder> Cool!.....Myne was for educational purposes..
[09:37] <vinyasa> hi team
[09:37] <vinyasa> it's inerkick here.
[09:38] <OerHeks> I understand, pentesting is not illegal. in some countries it is, btw...
[09:38] <LoveDr> hi
[09:40] <blackintruder> am trying to enter proxy settings to my terminal but every time i update it warns me of Access denied and i have the username and password..
[09:42] <blackintruder> Any help???....
[09:43] <Skyrider> using sudo?
[09:44] <blackintruder> yea
[09:45] <Skyrider> are you also in the sudoers list?
[09:46] <Skyrider> Ya, leaving wont do you any good
[09:53] <Skyrider> aw
[09:53] <Skyrider> Ubuntu still uses an old mariadb version?
[09:53] <op> How to rewrite # in URL ?
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> !latest | Skyrider
[09:58] <Skyrider> Alrighty.
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> Skyrider: if you find a security flaw, please feel free to report to #ubuntu-hardened
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> op: if you mean url encoding, have you searched software centre?
[10:14] <AEL-H> Hello, I am getting issues with wget authenticating to my university blackboard which I wish to mirror for offline viewing, I have tried posting the data and also using cookies as well as the auth-no-challenge parameter. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[10:17] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:19] <Skyrider> aw man
[10:19] <Skyrider> I can no longer install mariadb 5
[10:21] <phw> Is it possible to create ae subdomain (foo.bar.company.com) if i do not have access to the dns server (only bar.company.com seems resolvable right now)
[10:21] <pratik> Hi, I am running a command from one machine on another machine using ssh.  ssh <host> a.pl
[10:21] <pratik> Now, a.pl starts several other instances of a.pl using the 'system' method and executing each of them in the background.
[10:21] <pratik> I have this integrated with LDAP and when one of the instances dies, the main a.pl script comes to know about this as it continuously keeps on monitoring them.
[10:22] <pratik> I would expect ssh to exit when this main script dies. But, somehow it seems that ssh keeps on waiting on all the processes that were launched. ssh exits when I kill the remaining instances. Why is this so?
[10:22] <pratik> gry: Please find the question again. Is that fine now?
[10:27] <gry> pratik: I get the full question now. The question is, if you leave it hanging and open a second shell session (without the a.pl in it), and run 'ps aux' there, will it show that a.pl is still running?
[10:27] <gry> pratik: if it does, then you have to show your code (to here, or to #perl channel, at your discretion).
[10:27] <gry> pratik: before showing it, if desired, you can comment some parts out which are unrelated to the problem of it not exiting.
[10:28] <Skyrider> soneva..
[10:28] <Skyrider> What the hell is going on..
[10:29] <pratik> gry: I have a second shell and I have done all the monitoring and debugging in that shell only. I have found that the main a.pl script is not shown in the output of ps -aux after one of the instance dies
[10:29] <vinyasa_> HOw to find my lan password.
[10:29] <Skyrider> everytime I attempt to reinstall mariadb 5, I'm getting:   Package mariadb-server-5.5 is not configured yet.
[10:29] <vinyasa_> I want to change it
[10:29] <vinyasa_> I'm using ubuntu 14.04 unity
[10:29] <pratik> gry: so it is confirmed that the main script has exited, other instances getting owned by init
[10:29] <vinyasa_> just recenly installed  ubuntu
[10:31] <inerkick> Hi Team
[10:32] <inerkick> how and where to find my lan password
[10:33] <pratik> gry: Meanwhile, I have also documented the question and put it up on SO - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31650770/why-does-ssh-wait-for-all-the-launched-processes-to-exit
[10:33] <gry> pratik: Then it is a "how to not leave process children hanging and how to kill them" question.
[10:34] <gry> pratik: the answer may depend on how you started them.
[10:35] <Skyrider> uugghhh
[10:35] <Skyrider> Sometimes I really hate linux
[10:40] <yura> fdgrdghdhgfyhtfh
[10:40] <Guest38703> Hello people
[10:43] <pratik> gry: my requirement is that I dont want to kill the other children...they are running fine and doing their job...since I am using LDAP, the script is smart enough to bring  the failed instance up again...
[10:43] <gry> pratik: then you're starting them wrongly. You need to schedule them to run separately, not as children.
[10:43] <gry> And I forget the term for that.
[10:43] <gry> How are you starting them right now?
[10:44] <pratik> they are not the children as I am not forking them
[10:44] <pratik> I am starting them as system "a.pl &";
[10:44] <gry> OK.
[10:45] <gry> The man page says:
[10:45] <gry>      The session terminates when the command or shell on the remote machine
[10:45] <gry>      exits and all X11 and TCP connections have been closed.
[10:46] <gry> So let's say you try to run that script in a command line. Does it open a next command prompt or does it hang? This way we learn whether it exits or not.
[10:46] <pratik> gry: yes, but there is still some session open when the main script dies
[10:46] <pratik> debug3: channel 0: status: The following connections are open:   #0 client-session (t4 r0 i3/0 o3/0 fd -1/-1 cfd -1)
[10:47] <pratik> gry: it shows the prompt
[10:47] <gry> So there is a remaining TCP or X11 connection open, but you weren't using X11, so it's a remaining TCP connection.
[10:47] <pratik> gry: rightly so
[10:48] <gry> Looking at your script again, can you tell where it (or a fork) opens a TCP connection through the SSH session and leaves it open?
[10:49] <gry> If a fork opens a TCP connection through our SSH session, it's of concern to our SSH session even if the main process exits.
[10:49] <pratik> my script does not open the TCP session...I think that is something which happens at the ssh level
[10:49] <gry> Ah.
[10:49] <gry> Okay, I can say I definitely am interested in knowing what it was (please ping me with solution after you find it), but I'm about to head out for a little bit.
[10:50] <pratik> gry: Ah, alrighty! Can you ping any other experts out here who can help me in this regard?
[10:56] <tony_> does anyone know much about cairo dock?
[11:05] <barq> How can I do-release-upgrade to a specific ubuntu version? The man pages says Upgrade the operating system to the latest release from the command-line. But what happens if there is more than one newer version available?
[11:07] <OerHeks> barq, currently there is 12.04 + 14.04 + 15.04 ..
[11:08] <OerHeks> 12.04 lts goes to 14.04 lts, and upgrading from 14.04 to 15.10 needs the missing step 14.10 ...
[11:15] <barq> OerHeks: What if I have 13.10?
[11:15] <barq> Goes to 14.04 then?
[11:16] <farsight_> nihao
[11:16] <Yando[]> hello
[11:20] <gry> pratik: I would ... show a minimal sample of code which reproduces the problem (known as a testcase). Otherwise it's really hard to guess.
[11:20] <OerHeks> barq, yes.. you should have done that a year ago
[11:20] <OerHeks> barq, so there is no multiple versions available for you
[11:27] <Luy1n> hi, I'm trying to convert a lot of ogg files with avconv in subfolders.  My command was this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11947932/ and I get many errors stating "bash: test: too many arguments". I guess something is wrong in my command, or I'm not escaping spaces correctly. Could somebody take a look please? :)
[11:29] <pratik> gry: Can you please have a look at http://pastebin.com/rMPNAv6g?
[11:30] <barq> What are the risks of still using 13.10?
[11:30] <cfhowlett> barq, all the bad things you can think of, especially as there are no security updates offered
[11:30] <OerHeks> barq, tons of security issues .. no heartbleed, and other ssl patches.
[11:30] <bazhang> barq, no support whatsoever, security no updates ever
[11:31] <cfhowlett> barq, and "no support" means  NO support.  Don't come in here crying.
[11:31] <barq> What if I never open the browser?
[11:32] <OerHeks> barq, close it now, so we don't have to answer.
[11:32] <cfhowlett> barg  if you have ANY online connection, you're at risk.  Why don't you upgrade to a supported OS?
[11:32] <bazhang> barq, nothing will mitigate the no support part ever
[11:32] <OerHeks> you are vulnerable now anyway ..
[11:33] <cfhowlett> barq, actually, don't bother.  the only advice you'll see is "Upgrade.  Now."  and no need to keep asking because - say it with me - "13.10 is no longer supported."
[11:33] <barq> I am not using 13.10, but some colleagues are and I am having a hard time persuading them/the boss that an upgrade is mandatory.
[11:33] <gry> pratik: I'll test that in a moment.
[11:33] <Yando[]_> hello
[11:34] <cfhowlett> barq, the next OS is 14.04 which is LTS.  If your users are too - thick - to recognize the value of using a supported OS, I'd have to say, they'll learn.
[11:35] <pratik> gry: Cool, thanks
[11:35] <anodesni> Can I keep firefox profile on a usb stick? Or will it wear down the usb drive?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> anodesni, yes you can.
[11:35] <anodesni> cfhowlett: do you know how I can see how much data is written to that folder?
[11:36] <barq> When doing apt-get dist-upgrade it starts doing the upgrade for some packages but then after a while there is always a 407 proxy authentication problem.
[11:36] <cfhowlett> barq, because it's NO LONGER SUPPORTED.
[11:36] <barq> The proxy is configure in cntlm
[11:36] <barq> configured*
[11:36] <Luy1n> barq: why don't you do us and yourself the favour of just reinstalling a new, supported os?
[11:37] <cfhowlett> barq, set your software sources to LTS only, sudo apt-get update && sudo do-release-upgrade
[11:37] <barq> I am attempting an upgrade but have this proxy problem halfway through
[11:37] <barq> No dist-upgrade before doing do-release-upgrade?
[11:37] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | barq
[11:37] <barq> I read that
[11:37] <barq> It says dist-upgrade first
[11:37] <barq> Then do-release-upgrade
[11:38] <OerHeks> barq, funny, how would you normally get updates ?
[11:38] <barq> update and then dist-upgrade
[11:38] <OerHeks> oh wait, your collegues didn't bother for a year
[11:39] <cfhowlett> anodesni, navigate to your /home/.mozilla folder and display properties
[11:39] <gry> pratik: I don't know what it is that you're using... 'a.pl' is not really a valid command, and b.pl is not either; I'm replacing them with ./a.pl
[11:40] <anodesni> cfhowlett: yes, but I don't mean amount of data, I mean number of writes, which reduces lifespan of the usb drive.
[11:40] <OerHeks> maybe this page is any help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Setting_up_apt-get_to_use_a_http-proxy
[11:40] <cfhowlett> anodesni, no idea.
[11:41] <pratik> you would need  to make them executable and they would run fine
[11:41] <pratik> gry: ^
[11:41] <gry> For me it hangs without even printing the hi things... I think I reproduced the problem. (Yes, I made them executable, but ~ is not in my PATH, therefore they're not commands on their own.)
[11:42] <barq> It seems to work for short updates, say update, but when doing dist-upgrade it takes so long that at some point the proxy authentication fails.
[11:43] <cfhowlett> barq, download the .iso, create a boot USB and clean install
[11:44] <Wanshot> a
[11:44] <barq> clean install is not an option
[11:44] <Wanshot> a
[11:44] <Wanshot> Hello
[11:44] <cfhowlett> Wanshot, ask your ubuntu question
[11:45] <gry> Or maybe not... hrm. It exits just fine for me. I'm going to do it again and give it the time it needs.
[11:45] <gry> See, it pauses because that code contains a line which makes it pause.
[11:47] <Wanshot> yes, how to sharing wifi modem in ubuntu? such as the internet sharing on win 7
[11:48] <gry> pratik: your example works for me, with a.pl in the ssh command replaced with ./a.pl, and with b.pl replaced with ./b.pl inside of the script. It exits after saying the hi 5 times and does not hang.
[11:48] <cfhowlett> !ics | Wanshot_L
[11:48] <gry> pratik: with that I'm about to head to sleep. If you have a new testcase, please highlight me in-channel, and I'll read it in about 10 hours.
[11:49] <Luy1n> hi, I'm trying to convert a lot of ogg files with avconv in subfolders.  My command was this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11947932/ and I get many errors stating "bash: test: too many arguments". I guess something is wrong in my command, or I'm not escaping spaces correctly. Could somebody take a look please? :)
[11:50] <pratik> gry: I know it would work, what about the problem though? Ssh should have exited when a.pl exited right? is that the expected behavior?
[11:51] <EriC^^> Luy1n: for file in *.ogg ; do avconv -i "$file" -acodec mp3 "$file".mp3; done
[11:52] <Alfred_345745> Hi guys , is ubuntu 13.10 still supported ?
[11:52] <cfhowlett> Alfred_345745, no.  not at all.
[11:52] <Luy1n> EriC^^: thanks. will that also work for subdirectories or just the current folder_
[11:52] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | Alfred_345745
[11:52] <EriC^^> Luy1n: current dir only
[11:52] <gry> pratik: it is the expected, AND the actual behaviour (with the example you gave). I am yet to see the problem closely enough to understand it.
[11:52] <Luy1n> EriC^^: ok thank you
[11:52] <EriC^^> Luy1n: use find if you want it recursive
[11:52] <Alfred_345745> i'l looking to upgrade , what is next stable release you'd reccomand ?
[11:53] <EriC^^> np
[11:53] <cfhowlett> !LTS | Alfred_345745,
[11:53] <pratik> gry: Fine
[11:53] <Alfred_345745> ubottu : Thanks man that was useful
[11:53] <Alfred_345745> Whoah :D
[11:54] <Tinyyy> talk to me obottu
[11:54]  * Luy1n loves ubottu 
[11:54] <Tinyyy> talk to me ubottu
[11:54] <cfhowlett> Tinyyy, ask your ubuntu question
[11:54] <Tinyyy> ubuntu can eat?
[11:54] <bazhang>  /msg ubottu Tinyyy NOT here
[11:55] <Alfred_345745> one more question , i have only 1gb left in HDD , is running upgrade will cause a problem ?
[11:55] <cfhowlett> Alfred_345745, I'd clean that out before attempting an upgrade.
[11:55] <gry> pratik: thanks for bearing with my slow pace, and good luck. I am hoping to hear back about it overnight.
[11:55] <cfhowlett> Alfred_345745, sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean
[11:56] <pratik> gry: No problem, thanks for all your help. I will let you know if I find something.
[11:56] <Alfred_345745> cfhowlett , already done that , how much empty space you'd recommand ?
[11:56] <cfhowlett> Alfred_345745, errr, you might find it less painful to download 14.04 and clean install instead of a hot upgrade
[11:57] <caveman_> anybody running ubuntu as a virtual machine?
[11:57] <Alfred_345745> cfhowlett : Alright   , Thanks mate
[11:57] <cfhowlett> Alfred_345745, happy2help!
[11:58] <bazhang> !vm | caveman_
[11:59] <Gleidsonfabiano> olá gostaria de tira uma duvida
[11:59] <bazhang> !br | Gleidsonfabiano
[12:06] <Gleidsonfabiano> ajuda?
[12:08] <Danskmand> Howdy :-) - I just want to connect to a mysql-server and administer it from here - do I need to install the whole mysql-server package ?
[12:13] <rimdeker> Is it possible that files get deleted or that my hard drive somehow makes a rollback after a restart? I downloaded some files and created some but had to do a forced reboot
[12:13] <rimdeker> They were gone and a deleted file was back in my home folder
[12:13] <EriC^^> rimdeker: it could be the journal
[12:14] <EriC^^> use reisub to reboot forcefully if you can
[12:14] <EriC^^> the s part does a sync so anything that needs to be written will be written
[12:14] <EriC^^> !reisub
[12:14] <rimdeker> EriC^^: Ah right, that could be. Thank you
[12:15] <EriC^^> no problem
[12:18] <zippo^> good afternoon Ubuntu'ers, where can I find: color inverter?
[12:19] <fidel_> !details zippo^
[12:20] <fidel_> !details | zippo^
[12:21] <zippo^> I am visual impaired. I need some black background and white letters. and color inverter if I want see a photo. Do you understand my question fidel_ ?
[12:22] <ioria> !info xcalib
[12:23] <zippo^> is i xcalib?
[12:24] <ioria> zippo^ ... i read some .... also orca
[12:24] <ioria> zippo^  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility
[12:25] <zippo^> thx ioria !!!
[12:25] <zippo^> it works now
[12:26] <zippo^> I am so happy
[12:26] <cfhowlett> !cookie | ioria
[12:26] <ioria> zippo^  horra !!!
[12:26] <zippo^> :)
[12:27] <ioria> i love zippo^ collections
[12:27] <zippo^> haha cool. a name of my guide dog is zippo, ioria :)
[12:27] <cfhowlett> FFUUCCKK_U_jzk, turn off your nick changes.
[12:27] <ioria> ^_^
[12:28] <FFUUCCKK_Quokka> Oops sorry
[12:29] <UNR314TED> Sorry again
[12:31] <t0m-> sup anyone around
[12:31] <cfhowlett> t0m-, just ask your questions
[12:32] <sobczyk> hi, I've found a malformed packge http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/ns3/ns3-doc_3.15+dfsg-1_all.deb
[12:32] <sobczyk> it's part of raring
[12:33] <cfhowlett> !raring | sobczyk
[12:33] <t0m-> hmm okay.. as you might know all versions of compiz above 0_9.7.12 have disabled the extra animation plugins and snow effects ETC due instability of openGL ES. im wondering if anyone in here has compiled 9.7.12 and if its stable
[12:33] <sobczyk> cfhowlett: cool, but I need it for support
[12:33] <t0m-> i know compiz is dead. but i still use it
[12:33] <cfhowlett> sobczyk, pretty sure no one cares about fixing packages in EOL distros.  update to a supported OS cuz 13.04 ... isn't
[12:34] <cfhowlett> t0h, "dead"  so expect no support
[12:35] <t0m-> AKa why im here... wondering if someone else has not given a crap about it being unsupported, and can give some support
[12:35] <brainwash> t0m-: unlikely. I suggest that you go ahead, compile and then test it
[12:36] <t0m-> eh...
[12:36] <t0m-> ill just make my own tutorial
[12:36] <t0m-> was just hoping for quickies
[12:36] <evgeniy> hi
[12:36] <abimy> hi everyone
[12:37] <blaz0r> hi, I seem to have a slight issue when running torify on Ubuntu 14.04.2 (64 Bit)
[12:37] <blaz0r> I get these warnings
[12:37] <blaz0r> 07:29:41 libtorsocks(15629): WARNING: The symbol res_query() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!
[12:37] <blaz0r>   Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_query() with the reported error: Not Found
[12:38] <blaz0r> has anybody experienced this issue?
[12:38] <abimy> no i havnt
[12:39] <blaz0r> are there any certain dependencies i need for the tor package that could be causing this issue?
[12:39] <blaz0r> torify does work, however it displays warnings like that over and over and it floods my console
[12:40] <brainwash> blaz0r: bug 992068
[12:41] <brainwash> blaz0r: you will have to upgrade to version 2.0.0 or newer
[12:41] <abimy> oh
[12:41] <blaz0r> how should I go about doing so
[12:41] <blaz0r> is there a repository I can enable for this
[12:41] <blaz0r> or would I have to download manually & compile?
[12:42] <Meerkat> I'm compiling sylpheed with the sources from ubuntu 14.04 but when I run sylpheed I get "error while loading shared libraries: libsylpheed-plugin-0.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". How do I fix this?
[12:43] <Luy1n> hello, is there a possibility to change the shown wallpaper in lightdm & lightlocker for ONE user? like, for all users it should show their set wallpaper, but for one a specific file should always be displayed? I'm looking for a textconfig file I could drop in my home directory or something like that.
[12:43] <brainwash> blaz0r: https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/ubuntu/test
[12:43] <rainbowwarrior>  hello I am running Ubuntu 14.04 and my wifi connections icon and sound icon have vanished from the top right corner, how do I get them back please ?
[12:44] <Luy1n> rainbowwarrior: type "sudo service network-manager start" into a terminal window
[12:44] <brainwash> blaz0r: or you can manually download the package(s) from a newer ubuntu release (this can cause issues, but it's not very likely)
[12:44] <brainwash> blaz0r: oh wait, 2.0.0 is in trusty-backports
[12:44] <rainbowwarrior> Luy1n it says its already running
[12:45] <abimy> same here
[12:45] <brainwash> blaz0r: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[12:45] <t0m-> 0_9.7.12 works fine so far :)
[12:45] <abimy> its already running
[12:45] <Danskmand> Howdy :-)  - is it possible to install only the client-part of mysql since I want to connect to a remote server - I am running ubuntu 14.04
[12:45] <rainbowwarrior> abimy,  someone eat yours too ? lol
[12:46] <Miar> Hi I am unable to use the internet even though it detects the wired connection on ubuntu. Unable?
[12:46] <Miar> Any help* ?
[12:46] <blaz0r> thank you brainwash
[12:46] <t0m-> i guess my question was too complicated. i see why.
[12:47] <blaz0r> also, anybody here tried ubuntu 15.04 and had a major data loss associated with nautilus?
[12:47] <t0m-> ill make a tut on the forums later. bye
[12:47] <ziggyfish> I am trying to install vsftpd on ubuntu. I tried to connect to it and it says 500 OOPS: prctl PR_SET_SECCOMP failed
[12:47] <ziggyfish> i tried seccomp_sandbox=no , however I still can't log in
[12:47] <ziggyfish> is there a dependancy I need to install?
[12:48] <abimy> how dow i install aircrak in ubunto
[12:48] <blaz0r> brainwash: thank you so much, you solved my issue <3
[12:48] <Luy1n> Miar: what do you mean by "use the internet"? you're here after all. don't see websites with your browser? can't ping a server?
[12:48] <blaz0r> funny thing is, i read the same thread 20 minutes ago right, and i just was like well it says debian and just moved on
[12:49] <ziggyfish> abimy, you will need to compile it from source
[12:49] <rainbowwarrior> ok im going to upgrade to 14.10 and see if my icons re-appear , think they gone on holiday lol
[12:49] <Luy1n> is there a possibility to change the shown wallpaper in lightdm & lightlocker for ONE user? like, for all users it should show their set wallpaper, but for one a specific file should always be displayed? I'm looking for a textconfig file I could drop in my home directory or something like that.
[12:50] <ioria> Meerkat, no problem in compiling .... did you get the code from here ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sylpheed/3.4.1-0ubuntu0.1
[12:52] <t0m-> the --purging is real
[12:52] <Meerkat> ioria, "apt-get source sylpheed"
[12:53] <ioria> Meerkat, i'm 14.04.2   and got  	sylpheed_3.4.1.orig.tar.bz2 and no problem, compile and run
[12:55] <ioria> Meerkat, anyway you maybe need a ln -s of some libs on runtime
[12:55] <brainwash> Luy1n: probably not, but install lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings and see what's possible
[12:56] <brainwash> Luy1n: I assume that you using lightdm + lightdm-gtk-greeter
[12:56] <ziggyfish> I wish someone would just help with my problem
[12:57] <Luy1n> brainwash: I'm using the unity greeter, which seems to make things much more complicated, since it doesn't read from a single file in /etc/lightdm. I just changed lightdm to display a default image for all users instead now. not exactly what I wanted, but good enough
[12:57] <Luy1n> ziggyfish: what problem?
[12:58] <ziggyfish> I am trying to install vsftpd on ubuntu. I tried to connect to it and it says 500 OOPS: prctl PR_SET_SECCOMP failed
[12:58] <ziggyfish> i tried seccomp_sandbox=no , however I still can't log in
[12:58] <ziggyfish> is there a dependancy I need to install?
[12:58] <ziggyfish> Luy1n, ^
[12:59] <Luy1n> ziggyfish: http://superuser.com/questions/908024/vsftpd-500-oops-prctl-pr-set-seccomp-failed found this?
[13:00] <ziggyfish> Luy1n, yeah, but still no luck
[13:01] <ziggyfish> how do I enable CONFIG_SECCOMP_FILTER
[13:01] <Luy1n> ziggyfish: I'm sorry, don't know anything else about that
[13:01] <ziggyfish> Luy1n, It can happen when your kernel does not have CONFIG_SECCOMP_FILTER enabled.
[13:01] <ziggyfish> will i need to compile a kernal?
[13:01] <Luy1n> I'd suggest modprobe ziggyfish
[13:02] <Meerkat> ioria, I'll try a fresh install on a VM and see if that works for me. Thanks for looking into this.
[13:02] <Luy1n> ziggyfish: I think sudo modprobe ziggyfish CONFIG_SECCOMP_FILTER might do the trick, but I'm not sure
[13:02] <ioria> Meerkat, or maybe you need this to compile or install libsylpheed-plugins
[13:02] <Luy1n> not sure if it's a kernel module or something different. if different, my command won't work
[13:02] <ioria> !info libsylpheed-plugins
[13:02] <ioria> !info sylpheed-plugins
[13:03] <ioria> Meerkat, sylpheed-plugins
[13:03] <zippo^> Which chat-client do you use?
[13:03] <Meerkat> will check it out
[13:11] <Strat> Friends: I have a directory containing images, let's call this directory "dirX". I need the images of this directory to be available in the applicatio nfor selecting background wallpapers. The background wallpapers is located at /usr/share/backgrounds/. However, I want to seperate my own wallpapers (as stored in dirX) from the default wallpapers (as provided in /usr/share/backgrounds/). How can I do this?
[13:11] <EriC^^> Strat: put them in ~/home/../Pictures/Wallpapers
[13:16] <Strat> EriC^^, tried that already, but to no success
[13:17] <Dannys> Hey guys wasn't sure where to go to ask a question like this but. Both my master and slave DNS server are returning a loopback (127.0.0.1) server address when I do an NSlookup on my zones (http://i.imgur.com/UZq0Mk9.jpg) does anyone know if this is normal?
[13:17] <Dannys> no sure if it's my configs or not
[13:18] <EriC^^> Strat: what are you actually trying to do?
[13:19] <wokay> Hey guys ! I'm trying to see if I can create a another partition on my hardisk , that is on /dev/sda , I'm doing this coz i'm experimenting with DRDB
[13:20] <barq> !eol
[13:25] <qwerkus> Hello, since the last auto-update on 15.10, gedit stopped working alltogether. The app won't start anymore; no errors dumped in the console. I tried reinstalling and deleting .conf/gedit - nothing seems to help. Is this a know bug ? Is there a workaround ?
[13:26] <teward> qwerkus: 15.10 isn't released, you need #ubuntu+1
[13:26] <teward> (the channel)
[13:26] <Guest79953> i got some problems with my bluetooth, my notebook does not even recognize the bluetooth device
[13:26] <Guest79953> i would be very grateful if anyone could help me
[13:27] <cfhowlett> qwerkus, using unreleased OS will always cause headaches but HEY!  Thanks for volunteering to beta test!
[13:27] <qwerkus> sorry, I meant 15.04
[13:27] <qwerkus> vivid
[13:28] <Fred_Ohdx> Guys , may i ask why when editing test.txt , a test.txt~ is being generated ?
[13:28] <somsip> Fred_Ohdx: auto backup
[13:29] <Fred_Ohdx> But it kinda take space in hdd
[13:29] <Fred_Ohdx> is it safe to remove all ~ files ?
[13:29] <Strat> EriC^^, I want to have my custom wallpapers be accessible from the /usr/share/wallpapers/, without having to manually add them to that directory. Instead, I want a proxy directory in my ~/home folder where I can manage my downloaded, custom wallpapers. I want to seperate my custom wallpapers from those that are pre-installed, yet access them from the same directory by the system-settings-application
[13:29] <somsip> Fred_Ohdx: turn it off then. What editor?
[13:29] <pbx> Fred_Ohdx, if they're backups yes. don't worry about the space, it's negligible
[13:29] <Fred_Ohdx> gedit
[13:30] <somsip> Fred_Ohdx: probably a Preferences setting. If you have no open files, should be safe to delete
[13:30] <cfhowlett> Strat, su do cp .jpg /usr/share/wallpapers
[13:30] <cfhowlett> Strat, sudo
[13:30] <Fred_Ohdx> somsip : Alright thanks
[13:31] <Fred_Ohdx> pbx : i think i'll remove them anyway , thanks
[13:31] <barq> I did do-release-upgrade and it failed due to low disk space. Now if I run it again I get no new releases found but the version is still 13.10. How can I restart the do-release-upgrade after cleaning the hdd?
[13:32] <AbuDhar> hey.
[13:33] <AbuDhar> I can't wait till Ubuntu Touch really get its breakthrough :P
[13:33] <cfhowlett> !touch | AbuDhar
[13:33] <AbuDhar> we can't talk about it in here?
[13:34] <stevenm> Has anyone else noticed (on Ubuntu 14.04 - i'm personally using Ubuntu MATE) that Firefox is incredibly slower at connecting to sites than chrome?
[13:34] <AbuDhar> stevenm, no :P Firefox is faster for me.
[13:34] <stevenm> it's just the initial connection - actual data once established is a good rate
[13:34] <cfhowlett> AbuDhar, this is not the touch channel.  go there or #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:34] <OerHeks> AbuDhar, in #ubuntu-touch please
[13:34] <stevenm> but i don't think it's dns or chrome would suffer too
[13:34] <moppers> Hello. My system is unable to use its full monitor resolution. It's only giving me sizes up to 1080p. I have a 2560x1440 screen.
[13:35] <OerHeks> moppers, on what videocard and how connected? dvi/hdmi/dlink ?
[13:35] <Fred_Ohdx> pbx : is this safe to run find /home -name *~ -exec rm {} \; ?
[13:35] <moppers> OerHeks: It's an Nividia 770. I have tried DisplayPort and HDMI.
[13:36] <cfhowlett> !nvidia | moppers
[13:36] <pbx> Fred_Ohdx, probably
[13:37] <moppers> cfhowlett: I have the 331.113 if that was what you were wanting me to do?
[13:37] <EriC^^> Fred_Ohdx: run it with echo before rm {} to see what it'll do
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> stevenm: tweak your overall system for a faster browsing
[13:37] <moppers> cfhowlett: Otherwise are you suggesting I build an xorg file?
[13:37] <EriC^^> Fred_Ohdx: and no
[13:38] <cfhowlett> moppers, nvidia prime
[13:38] <EriC^^> Fred_Ohdx: use -name "*~" -exec
[13:38] <Fred_Ohdx> EriC^^ : why
[13:38] <Fred_Ohdx> Ah thanks
[13:38] <cfhowlett> moppers, run the "additional drivers" utility
[13:38] <stevenm> does anyone have experience of this and doesn't just have vague guesses to offer?
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> stevenm: we cant smell from here whats your exact issue with firefox
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> !details | stevenm
[13:39] <moppers> cfhowlett: ctrl+F "prime". No hits in the document you linked. I don't understand what you are suggesting I do.
[13:39] <bijan_> Hi I got sending emails to work by installing sendmail. Now I want my webapp to send emails. What are the SMTP settings?
[13:39] <stevenm> lotuspsychje, i've elaborated as much as I can - want more specifics? ask a question
[13:39] <cfhowlett> moppers, run the "additional drivers" utility
[13:40] <bijan_> Is sendmail automatically enabling SMTP for this server?
[13:40] <mylord> is 15.04 x64 stable?
[13:41] <moppers> cfhowlett: I have, it's already using version 331
[13:41] <barq> I get Invalid operation do-release-upgrade when I do apt-get do-release-upgrade after the first attempt failed due to missing disk space. How can I continue the upgrade?
[13:41] <cfhowlett> barq, apt do-release-upgrade
[13:42] <cfhowlett> and you likely can't complete the upgrade as you're out of memory.  clean instal
[13:43] <barq> Then I get Checking for a new Ubuntu release No new release found
[13:43] <barq> But cat /etc/lsb-release is still 13.10
[13:43] <bijan_> mylord: are you going to use ubuntu on the desktop or the server?
[13:44] <mylord> server
[13:44] <cfhowlett> barg in other words, your hot upgrade process has failed and should'nt be trusted.
[13:44] <EriC^^> barq: did you change the sources.list?
[13:44] <barq> Yes EriC^^
[13:44] <EriC^^> check /etc/upgrade-manager.... something .conf
[13:44] <barq> I changed them to saucy before doing the upgrade
[13:44] <barq> as stated in the eol page
[13:45] <EriC^^> barq: you need to put old-releases instead of archive
[13:45] <EriC^^> type cat /etc/apt/sources.list and paste it
[13:45] <waykool99> using ubuntu studio v14.04.2 LTS 64 bit. in Terminal, to Paste, Ctrl V doesn't work. other than using the mouse, might there be a keystroke command?
[13:45] <OerHeks> barq, 13.10 to 14.04 is supported, a while back you had a PROXY error ...
[13:46] <barq> The proxy error is gone now. Had an old link somewhere in the sources.
[13:46] <mylord> bijan_ server
[13:46] <k1l_> barq: please pastebin the actual sources.list
[13:46] <barq> Deleted everything and have the 4 sources only from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[13:46] <barq> with CODENAME=saucy
[13:46] <mylord> I'm looking for use LXC, as in : https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/getting-started-with-lxc-on-an-ubuntu-13-04-vps
[13:47] <k1l_> barq: and its not apt-get do-release-upgrade. its just "do-release-upgrade" prefaced with sudo
[13:47] <barq> k1l_: That gives no new releases found
[13:48] <k1l_> barq: what gives /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades in the last line?
[13:50] <barq> Will check in a moment, need to reboot
[13:53] <bijan_> mylord: server => LTS
[13:54] <mylord> bijan_ so 14.4?
[13:54] <bijan_> mylord: absolutely
[13:54] <bijan_> mylord: servers shall be stable and secure
[13:55] <bijan_> mylord: if you are doing anything close to serious: LTS
[13:55] <mylord> bijan_ ubuntu is more geared for desktop tho, as compared to others? do you prefer other flavor for server, personally?
[13:56] <teward> mylord: it's equally capable of Desktop or Server
[13:56] <teward> mylord: however you should use the Server installation images/ISOs instead of the Desktop ones
[13:56] <teward> mylord: as 'servers' tend to not need the GUI, etc. for the core functionality (and most administration is CLI based)
[13:56] <mylord> i'm using DigitalOcean, so I guess they use Server installs
[13:57] <teward> mylord: yes, they do.
[13:57] <teward> mylord: A prime example is at work here for me - the sysadmin prefers CentOS 6 systems, I prefer Debian/Ubuntu, and depending on who's setting up the *nix server VMs, unless a project calls for a specific OS we use whichever is most comfortable for use
[13:58] <teward> mylord: in my case, I prefer Debian/Ubuntu servers
[13:58] <teward> mylord: and if using Ubuntu on my servers I only stick to LTS releases
[13:58] <teward> (so 14.04)
[14:05] <freeone3000> I have a monitor connected through HDMI, but my computer says the monitor is not connected through HDMI. xrandr seems to agree. What can I do to fix this?
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> freeone3000: did you try monitor on another pc?
[14:09] <barq> k1l_: Prompt=normal
[14:09] <barq> I guess it should be LTS?
[14:11] <barq> Actually no, since 13.10 is not an lts version
[14:12] <kully3xf> how to generate a public certificate from my private certificate cer file
[14:14] <kully3xf> nevermind
[14:16] <OerHeks> kully3xf, ??? when you create a certificate, you make a public cacert.pem and cakey.pem (keep the key secret) https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/certificates-and-security.html
[14:18] <freeone3000> lotuspsychje: Yes. Works fine under Windows.
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> freeone3000: maybe try arandr?
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> !info arandr | freeone3000
[14:19] <ilosamart> \quit
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> freeone3000: your graphics card driver also installed correctly?
[14:20] <freeone3000> lotuspsychje: Yes. What happened was this configuration worked. Then I unplugged the monitor. THen I restarted the computer. Then several days later, I plugged the monitor back in.
[14:20] <freeone3000> lotuspsychje: arandr is showing LVDS1 and no other monitors.
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> freeone3000: hmm weird, did you update recently?
[14:22] <freeone3000> lotuspsychje: Possibly.
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> freeone3000: maybe try a failsafeX from recoverymode, or a lightdm restart
[14:23] <prefixed> Can anyone in here think of a reason why the "find" command wouldn't list the same files upon multiple subsequent runs (minutes apart)? I'm seeing ~1% inconsistencies on ~42k files
[14:23] <freeone3000> prefixed: Because the files changed?
[14:26] <khauenst_> prefixed: since most things in Linux are represented as files e.g. processes then if the scope of the find command included /proc it would not be surprising if small changes occurred
[14:26] <linx> hi
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> linx: welcome, how can we help you?
[14:32] <freeone3000> lotuspsychje: No change.
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> freeone3000: sure you didnt pushed out grafix card a bit out of mobo, or is this laptop?
[14:35] <freeone3000> lotuspsychje: It's a laptop.
[14:35] <freeone3000> One would think if my graphics card was not connected, I would have *zero* monitors, not one.
[14:36] <notmorpheus> Anyone know why attempting to read /bin/lesskey would hang (in Python, open() 'rb')?
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> freeone3000: can you doublecheck sudo lshw -C video if card model + =driver shows up?
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> notmorpheus: maybe the #python guys know this?
[14:37] <freeone3000> lotuspsychje: Looks like https://gist.github.com/freeone3000/f84ee33be2cd9e5f66db
[14:37] <notmorpheus> lotuspsychje: will check, thanks
[14:38] <OerHeks> sudo ubuntu-drivers list
[14:39] <freeone3000> OerHeks: empty line
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> freeone3000: do you know if your laptop has an nvidia or ati card, stronger then the intel one?
[14:40] <freeone3000> lotuspsychje: I do. It does not. This is a Thinkpad E531.
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> ok
[14:40] <ioria> freeone3000, try with sudo      sudo lshw -c video
[14:41] <OerHeks> that command can take some time
[14:41] <freeone3000> ioria: Command was ran with sudo (and was included in the paste)
[14:41] <freeone3000> OerHeks: Yes. I get an empty line, and then see my prompt line. Command successfully completed and returned one line of blank output.
[14:41] <ioria> freeone3000, oh  yeah
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> freeone3000: can you see bios POST boot on your hdmi screen?
[14:43] <freeone3000> lotuspsychje: No.
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> freeone3000: then its not ubuntu related
[14:43] <EriC^^> laptop button maybe?
[14:44] <freeone3000> Which now that you mention it, is weird - I used to see it on both really awkwardly.
[14:44] <EriC^^> freeone3000: check the fn keys
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> freeone3000: yeah Fn + F5 or some
[14:45] <freeone3000> No effect.
[14:45] <EriC^^> did you press the screen one?
[14:45] <freeone3000> EriC^^: Yes.
[14:47] <EriC^^> well obviously it's something hardware related
[14:47] <EriC^^> try wiggling the cables around check if they're plugged in the back of the display
[14:47] <freeone3000> Alright. I'll just use Windows, then, where this monitor works. Thanks.
[14:47] <EriC^^> maybe some bios setting *shrug*
[14:47] <EriC^^> you just said it doesnt work even with the bios?
[14:48] <freeone3000> EriC^^: So?
[14:48] <EriC^^> so it's not related to the os?
[14:48] <freeone3000> EriC^^: But it works on Windows, on the same laptop.
[14:49] <EriC^^> you sure?
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> freeone3000: makes no sense, you should at least see post boot
[14:49] <jjjjjj> hi
[14:49] <freeone3000> lotuspsychje: Why would that be on both monitors?
[14:49] <EriC^^> freeone3000: have you tried it since it stopped showing the bios?
[14:49] <jjjjjj> d
[14:49] <jjjjjj> f
[14:49] <jjjjjj> s
[14:49] <freeone3000> EriC^^: Yes.
[14:49] <jjjjjj> ddd
[14:49] <jjjjjj> f
[14:49] <jjjjjj> '
[14:49] <jjjjjj> '
[14:49] <jjjjjj> '
[14:50] <freeone3000> IPv6. Nice.
[14:50] <EriC^^> freeone3000: type xrandr -q
[14:51] <freeone3000> EriC^^: https://gist.github.com/freeone3000/b53edefb1136fa48e0c5
[14:52] <EriC^^> freeone3000: try dmesg
[14:52] <EriC^^> unplug and plug it and check dmesg
[14:54] <garethdaine> Guys, how long should it take to wipe and reinstall a fresh Ubuntu server, only running Ubuntu 14.04 x64 on a machine with 16GB RAM?
[14:54] <freeone3000> EriC^^: Get nothing (well, some ATA stuff, but fairly sure that's my hard drive and is coincidental)
[14:54] <freeone3000> EriC^^: Are there such things as monitor drivers for HDMI?
[14:55] <tgm4883> freeone3000: there is EDID information, but that isn't specific to HDMI
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> garethdaine: ubuntu can be installed pretty quickly, ask the #ubuntu-server guys maybe
[14:56] <garethdaine> Thanks lotuspsychje: I’ve asked our dedicated host to wipe the server and install only a fresh copy of Ubuntu 14.04 x64 and they are saying it’s 4 hours chargable work
[14:56] <nils_> garethdaine: they're trying to screw you.
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> garethdaine: too long for sure,
[14:56] <tgm4883> yea
[14:57] <tgm4883> it should take like 30 minutes tops
[14:57] <ki7mt> garethdaine, I'd find a new host, thats extortion.
[14:57] <tgm4883> including post install setup so you can access it
[14:57] <garethdaine> I knew that for ceratin, especially when you can spin up a VPS server in seconds.
[14:57] <nils_> I have an ansible task that performs the same in 10-15 minutes, most of which is spent waiting for downloads/reboots etc.
[14:57] <EriC^^> freeone3000: my guess is that something isn't right, and windows can somehow turn the hdmi thing in your laptop on
[14:57] <EriC^^> or something like that
[14:58] <tgm4883> garethdaine: which host?
[14:58] <freeone3000> EriC^^: Yeah. I'll look through what else changed to figure out why Ubuntu can't. Thanks.
[14:59] <EriC^^> freeone3000: try pressing the fn key again for the screen, make sure it's being pressed right no fn maybe or something
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> freeone3000: maybe doublecheck bios again too, anything VGA related
[14:59] <freeone3000> ...It's HDMI...
[14:59] <EriC^^> check dmesg again maybe something showed up this time, tinker around
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> freeone3000: i know, but there must be a problem to find somewhere
[14:59] <garethdaine> UKFast
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> lol fast
[15:00] <tgm4883> freeone3000: just because it's HDMI and not VGA doesn't mean someone didn't name something stupidly when programing the BIOS interface
[15:01] <garethdaine> lol
[15:02] <mimmo> hi
[15:02] <garethdaine> The Ubunutu server folks are saying it could very well take 4 hours to install
[15:02] <garethdaine> they probably have to do things at the datacenter to make the revisions - network reconfiguration, configuration for networking, etc.
[15:02] <garethdaine> depending on what all they ahve to do over at the datacenter it could very well be 4 hours of work for them
[15:02] <garethdaine> That was the response
[15:02] <garethdaine> Seems odd to me
[15:02] <nils_> well yeah
[15:03] <nils_> You could always take longer.
[15:03] <tgm4883> garethdaine: that isn't entirely what they said
[15:04] <sloantothebone> Ugh I have multiple "system problem program detected" dialogs
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> sloantothebone: what does the details say?
[15:05] <sloantothebone> No details "do you want to report the problem?"
[15:05] <OerHeks> press yes, then you will get the detail option
[15:05] <tgm4883> sloantothebone: which is where you get the details ;)
[15:06] <ki7mt> garethdaine, I suppose it all depends on when the clock starts as to how long it takes, ticket submission to finished notification ( which included queue time etc) could take 4 hours, but I'd find it odd that it takes 4 hours for the imaging portion.
[15:06] <sloantothebone> When I click report it asks for my password and thats it
[15:06] <tgm4883> ki7mt: queue time wouldn't be billable
[15:06] <sloantothebone> You've never seen this error before?? I hope it isnt a virus
[15:07] <ki7mt> tgm4883, I would not think so, no.
[15:07] <sloantothebone> Do you need a screenshot?
[15:07] <garethdaine> tgm4883: What you mean, that’s what I copied directly from chat
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> sloantothebone: no, we need more details
[15:07] <sloantothebone> When I press cancel the dialog goes away, no password
 The Ubunutu server folks are saying it could very well take 4 hours to install
[15:08] <sloantothebone> The other button says exactly "Report problem..."
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> sloantothebone: find some errors in syslog or dmesg
[15:08] <sloantothebone> How do I do that?
[15:08] <tgm4883> garethdaine: that isn't what they said at all. They said that there were other possible things they would need to do outside of the install that could be billable. "network reconfiguration, configuration for networking, etc."
[15:09] <Pici> sloantothebone: if a process crashes and generates a file into /var/crash, then the crash handler will run and that is what is produces that dialog.
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> sloantothebone: dmesg in terminal, or manual browse with the log viewer icon (from dash)
[15:09] <garethdaine> tgm4883: Yeah, and that’s what the response was: depending on what all they ahve to do over at the datacenter ‘it could very well be 4 hours’ of work for them
[15:10] <tgm4883> garethdaine: 4 hours to install vs 4 hours to install, test and configure
[15:10] <sloantothebone> Ok I just found system log in the dash (im using ubuntu gnome btw)
[15:10] <tgm4883> garethdaine: those are 2 different things
[15:10] <garethdaine> Not suggesting they are mate
[15:10] <garethdaine> are the same that is
[15:10] <tgm4883> garethdaine: if you say so
[15:11] <garethdaine> So, installing a fresh server with network config etc could take 4 hours?
[15:12] <garethdaine> tgm4883: You seem to be being a bit funny for some reason fella, I’m only asking a question and quoting what the server folks said, not disputing any of it just clarifying and asking questions
[15:12] <Holzbein> hi
[15:12] <OerHeks> that 'etc' is a wide area ..
[15:12] <nils_> garethdaine: just out of curiosity, how much do they charge if you order a new server?
[15:12] <garethdaine> As in this request, or just signing up as a new customer?
[15:13] <tgm4883> garethdaine: Ok champ. Their point was that they could conceivably see a billable 4 hours, assuming that they had to install the OS, reconfigure networking (I'm assuming outside of the server), test the OS against unsupported hardware, diagnose faultly hardware, and possibly upgrade drivers and such
[15:13] <nils_> as a new customer.
[15:13] <tgm4883> Honestly, I still think 4 hours is a bit much, but I'd just go with a VPS over dedicated server anyway
[15:13] <ki7mt> garethdaine, The bottom line is, it doesn't' matter, if thats what they say the cost is, your stuck with their quote, but you should work with the Host folks to get the quote to a reasonable price before hand.
[15:14] <garethdaine> tgm4883: I get what you and they are saying
[15:14] <nils_> tgm4883: I'm the opposite in that regard, the amount of trouble I had with virtualised stuff...
[15:14] <tgm4883> garethdaine: also, is the quote for 4 hours, or a maximum of 4 hours?
[15:14] <tgm4883> nils_: doing what?
[15:14] <OerHeks> "you are back online in 4 hrs"
[15:15] <tgm4883> OerHeks: is that what he said? Because he said it was 4 billable hours
[15:15] <garethdaine> ki7mt: We’re locked in to a contract on the server and we’ve been with them for a while, plus it’s a manged service. It just seems excessive to me. tgm4883: It’s a quote for 4 hours work, whether it takes them 20 minutes or 4 hours.
[15:15] <Holzbein> i have a question:
[15:15] <garethdaine> nils_: Not entirely sure, can’t remember but usually around £360 to £440
[15:15] <Holzbein> weren't there siri-like features integrated in tomboy?
[15:15] <garethdaine> If I remember correctly
[15:16] <nils_> tgm4883: it's most often related to performance, especially with things like elasticsearch or redis.
[15:17] <ki7mt> garethdaine, Well, that's things which should be looked at before signing the contract, but, we dont' always think about those things first time around, but when it's up for re-newal, then you have some leverage :-)
[15:18] <tgm4883> garethdaine: what is the OS on it now?
[15:20] <garethdaine> It currently has cPanel on it and I believe it’s CentOS, so maybe that’s why. It’s from a previous developer in our company who for some reason wanted bloody cPanel on the server.
[15:20] <garethdaine> I’ll double check the OS because I’ve been using Digital Ocean
[15:20] <reisio> reason == idiocy
[15:20] <garethdaine> Haven’t used this server other than for backups
[15:21] <garethdaine> But DO is becoming slow, and upgrading the droplet increases response times, which is weird, so since we have a dedicated server we’re paying for I thought it good to clean it up, install Ubuntu and then provision the server myself
[15:21] <tgm4883> garethdaine: out of curiosity, how much is 4 billable hours?
[15:22] <garethdaine> £360
[15:22] <garethdaine> £75 an hour + VAT
[15:22] <nils_> + VAT?
[15:22] <garethdaine> Just seems extortionate
[15:22] <ki7mt> Of course, tax man wants his curt too :-)
[15:22] <garethdaine> lol
[15:22] <ki7mt> .. cut ..
[15:23] <tgm4883> ki7mt: maybe tax man wants his Curt, you shouldn't judge
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> garethdaine: yea, if you dont do it yourself, its always gonna be more expensive
[15:24] <ki7mt> I'm not judging .. just stating a fact, tax is tax, somebody gotta pay and that's usually the buyer.
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> ki7mt: +1
[15:25] <tgm4883> ki7mt: I was making a joke on the tax man wanting a guy named Curt ;)
[15:25] <garethdaine> Think tgm4883 was joking because of your spelling mistake
[15:25] <garethdaine> lol
[15:25] <ki7mt> Yeah, probably, I'm good a Typo's :-)
[15:25] <garethdaine> :-)
[15:25] <garethdaine> Anyway, thanks for the help folks, I appreciate it
[15:25] <nils_> I don't believe her Majesty wants Curt in her Court.
[15:26] <garethdaine> lol
[15:26] <ki7mt> Probabaly not, but, there's always a chance :-) .. anyways, this has gone way OT ..
[15:31] <or-dvh_> i've posted a question on askubuntu (http://askubuntu.com/questions/653038/how-can-i-access-a-broken-ubuntu-14-04-file-system) -- would appreciate any advice folks here can give me.
[15:32] <Dannys> Hey guys wasn't sure where to go to ask a question like this but. Both my master and slave DNS server are returning a loopback (127.0.0.1) server address when I do an NSlookup on my zones (http://i.imgur.com/UZq0Mk9.jpg) does anyone know if this is normal?
[15:32] <reisio> more like a broken aws
[15:32] <reisio> /msg alis list *aws*
[15:32] <reisio> Dannys: #networking?
[15:33] <sloantothebone> Um I just googled a bit and I'm going to try sudo rm /var/crash/*
[15:33] <Pici> sloantothebone: that works too :)
[15:34] <hexhaxtron> I'm using the File Upload dialog in Facebook but is it possible to see thumbnails above the filenames?
[15:36] <Neo9_> is there any affect by deleting /tmp files in linux?
[15:36] <reisio> course
[15:36] <reisio> well, effect, anyway
[15:37] <Neo9_> reisio: what type of effect?
[15:37] <tgm4883> Neo9_: why are you trying to delete files in /tmp
[15:39] <reisio> Neo9_: lots, it's data your OS has been or is using
[15:39] <reisio> hard to do much without temporary data
[15:40] <reisio> the _long term_ ramifications of deleting /tmp/ are very few
[15:40] <reisio> because they're in /tmp/, they're not essential
[15:40] <reisio> but they are used
[15:40] <tgm4883> but still, if you are deleting files from /tmp regularly, you're doing something wrong
[15:43] <freeone3000> Found my issue. Apparently someone swapped my nice, clean cable with an HDCP-complaint cable from cable storage, because "they're all the same, right?"
[15:43] <freeone3000> Thanks to all those helping.
[15:43] <reisio> freeone3000: yay coworkers...
[15:43] <reisio> I wonder if they even had a reason for taking your cable
[15:44] <reisio> at my work they don't even have reasons, their actions make zero sense
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> reisio: not easy for a linux minded guy to work with zero-sense co-workers right
[15:51] <reisio> lotuspsychje: for anyone, but yeah probably moreso for linux minded, heh
[15:51] <reisio> used to have coworkers steal one of my two matching monitors at work
[15:51] <reisio> it didn't get them a matching set at all
[15:51] <reisio> no idea why they bothered
[15:51] <reisio> if I were going to steal monitors, I'd steal both of a matching set
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> reisio: join us at #ubuntu-discuss mate
[15:51] <reisio> and they'd take cables and replace them with the exact same cables, that actually did work
[15:51] <reisio> no idea why
[15:52] <reisio> 's'okay :)
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> :p
[15:53] <daftykins> lol, HDCP cable - that's not even a thing
[15:54] <compdoc> HD Copyright Protection
[15:54] <reisio> if you can imagine a mediocrity, it's a thing :p
[15:54] <daftykins> no it's high-bandwidth digital content protection, but it's not cable dependant :P
[15:54] <black_13> what package do i need to add to be able to link agains librt?
[15:55] <tgm4883> daftykins: +1
[15:58] <ioria> black_13, -lrt not working ?
[15:58] <black_13> no
[15:59] <ioria> black_13, locate librt.so
[15:59] <Jad-C> I need a lot of help :(
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> Jad-C: start with 1 question?
[16:00] <Jad-C> (im typing it)
[16:01] <daftykins> heh.
[16:01] <black_13> ioria: http://codepad.org/iMuwMYnM
[16:01] <Jad-C> I used Universal Installer to install Ubuntu 14.10 on a USB #1, I then opened up wubi.exe and used that to install on to a final USB #2 and I want it so I can just boot off USB #2 and have all my files from anywhere. Though, when I try to whole option on my mac ubuntu doesnt show up, and on windows it just says theres a missing file and I need to r
[16:01] <Jad-C> epair my computer, but my computer is fine.
[16:01] <Jad-C> hold*
[16:02] <daftykins> Jad-C: 14.10 is already end of line, no longer supported.
[16:02] <Jad-C> and with rEFInd it shows up but only boots into my windows bootcamp
[16:02] <ioria> black_13, are you ubuntu ???
[16:02] <noahmg123> how can I create a ssh key for a server?
[16:02] <daftykins> only 14.04 and 15.04 are good now
[16:02] <Jad-C> well
[16:02] <Jad-C> I thought I downloaded 15
[16:02] <Jad-C> but when I installed it showed 14.10
[16:02] <Jad-C> I thought that meant 15
[16:02] <black_13> ioria: yes lts 14.x
[16:02] <daftykins> Jad-C: we don't support WUBI, it should never be used.
[16:02] <pedro_> ola
[16:03] <Jad-C> really?
[16:03] <Jad-C> What do I use then?
[16:03] <pedro_> ola
[16:03] <daftykins> yes, it's absolutely terrible
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> !es | pedro_
[16:03] <Jad-C> My mistake
[16:03] <Jad-C> didn't know
[16:03] <genii> Gah, wubi
[16:03] <Jad-C> I have Ubuntu 15 iso
[16:03] <Jad-C> and 2 usbs
[16:03] <Jad-C> what do I do
[16:03] <daftykins> Jad-C: well what are you tring to achieve? you want a flash drive install for use on a mac?
[16:03] <Jad-C> and Universal Installer
[16:03] <cowbacon> noahmg123: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[16:03] <Jad-C> Okay, so what I'm trying to achieve is
[16:03] <Jad-C> making it so I have 1 usb that I can go to any computer (mainly windows, though) and boot off of and it has all my files on it already
[16:04] <daftykins> ah so treating it like a portable session, mmm
[16:04] <Jad-C> yes.
[16:04] <ioria> black_13, dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[16:04] <Jad-C> I just waited 1 hour for wubi.exe for nothing xD
[16:04] <daftykins> makes more sense to have said files in a cloud service like dropbox then just access them from a browser in my opinion?
[16:04] <daftykins> Jad-C: would that not be viable?
[16:05] <Jad-C> I would constantly have to keep downloading them to the usb then, right?
[16:05] <daftykins> not if you had the client installed
[16:05] <Jad-C> I need to run games mobily
[16:05] <black_13> i366
[16:05] <daftykins> games? what games?
[16:05] <Jad-C> Minecraft... Steam, etc.
[16:05] <Jad-C> Mostly Minecraft though
[16:05] <daftykins> you're never gonna fit steam games on a flash drive
[16:05] <rimdeker> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI
[16:05] <Jad-C> not that resource instensive
[16:06] <philip> is it adviceable to install ubuntu desktop on a ubuntu server
[16:06] <ioria> black_13, did you install build-essential , yes ?
[16:06] <daftykins> philip: no
[16:06] <black_13> i am pretty sure i did let me check
[16:06] <Jad-C> i've done this before, and it worked, but I don't remember how...
[16:06] <daftykins> philip: but then what are you doing? GUIs don't belong on servers really.
[16:06] <philip> why please
[16:07] <daftykins> !persistence | Jad-C maybe you did this?
[16:07] <tgm4883> philip: what are you trying to do? Have a GUI on a server, or convert a server to a desktop?
[16:07] <Jad-C> is that what im supposed to do?
[16:07] <black_13> ioria: http://codepad.org/oeuC2hLX
[16:07] <daftykins> Jad-C: i'm just suggesting you may have done that before
[16:07] <philip> for graphic usage.
[16:07] <Jad-C> I think I have
[16:08] <Jad-C> but I don't remember using CMD...
[16:08] <tgm4883> philip: that doesn't really explain anything
[16:08] <daftykins> philip: but what kind of server?
[16:08] <Jad-C> isn't there persistance in universal usb installer?
[16:08] <philip> ubuntu server 14.04
[16:08] <xangua> philip: so you don't want a server, but a desktop OS¿
[16:08] <daftykins> philip: if it's a VPS from someone like digitalocean, amazon, then installing a GUI is extremely silly
[16:09] <philip> i want the server i only want a graphic interface on the ubuntu server
[16:09] <Jad-C> ...?
[16:09] <ioria> black_13, ok ... you just have the links ... but not the libs ... you can check yourself with ls -l
[16:09] <blydro> philip: if you really want that than maybe try something like fluxbox
[16:10] <tgm4883> philip: is this on hardware you own?
[16:10] <black_13> not the dev libs?
[16:11] <philip> yes but its just a test
[16:11] <Jad-C> daftykins: should I just use that persistant link to do it?
[16:11] <philip> i use this command sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop on the ubuntu server
[16:11] <tgm4883> philip: ok, so installing ubuntu server then installing ubuntu desktop is no different than just installing ubuntu desktop
[16:12] <daftykins> philip: so if ou wanted it why did you install server in the first place o0
[16:12] <daftykins> *ou
[16:12] <daftykins> *you
[16:12] <philip> okay thank you..iyts just a test
[16:12] <blydro> maybe start with a smaller wm?
[16:12] <ioria> black_13, that's my output of locate   http://paste.ubuntu.com/11949046/
[16:12] <philip> but with this , i can sudo apt-get uninstall ubuntu-desktop bacl to normalcy
[16:12] <Jad-C> anyone??
[16:13] <Jad-C> i assume so
[16:13] <Jad-C> cya
[16:13] <daftykins> philip: nope
[16:13] <tgm4883> philip: not exactly that easy
[16:14] <black_13> i wonder what i missed
[16:14] <black_13> it seems like i missed something
[16:14] <philip> will only to reinstall right
[16:14] <tgm4883> philip: why do you need a GUI?
[16:15] <ioria> black_13, uname -r
[16:16] <black_13> 3.19.0-23-generic
[16:16] <black_13> i need a new kernel
[16:16] <black_13> or do i need a new kernel
[16:16] <ioria> black_13, i don't think so
[16:18] <ioria> black_13, what are you doing exactly ?
[16:19] <black_13> i am trying to compile the examples from the book "Programming with POSIX Threads"
[16:20] <ioria> black_13, you should need only -lpthread
[16:20] <black_13> the code was here https://github.com/hailinzeng/Programming-POSIX-Threads
[16:20] <ioria> black_13, whick in particolar ?
[16:21] <ioria> *which
[16:22] <black_13> semaphore_signal.c
[16:23] <philip> running ubuntu desktop as a server, what will be the side of using it
[16:24] <philip> running ubuntu desktop as a server, what will be the disadvantage of using this
[16:24] <philip> running ubuntu desktop as a server, what will be the disadvantage of using this
[16:24] <ioria> black_13, seems ok ...
[16:25] <blydro> philip: what kind of server?
[16:25] <black_13> who do you mean
[16:25] <black_13> how do you mean rather
[16:25] <philip> ubuntu server
[16:26] <blydro> do you mean ssh server? http server?
[16:26] <daftykins> philip: if you want to learn server administration, you should not ruin it with a GUI. you will not see a GUI on a proper server
[16:26] <daftykins> not anywhere
[16:26] <whallz> how to know which app is executing on scrot key press?
[16:26] <whallz> not sure if it's feh or gnome-screenshot
[16:27] <ioria> black_13, that  semaphore_signal.c  compiles and works
[16:29] <whallz> lol it's xfce4 Screenshooter
[16:29] <ioria> black_13, did you link with -lrt -pthread  ?
[16:30] <rypervenche> philip: Running a server with a GUI is for those who do not know how to administrate a server.
[16:30] <daftykins> ^+1 and don't want to learn
[16:30] <daftykins> and they still won't be able to drive it ;)
[16:32] <whallz> rypervenche: is there something like orca-cli ?
[16:32] <daftykins> !find orca
[16:32] <black_13> ioria:  what kind of machine do you have?
[16:32] <fxmulder> non-lts releases are supported for less than a year?
[16:33] <rypervenche> whallz: What are you trying to do?
[16:33] <daftykins> fxmulder: mostly yep
[16:33] <ioria> black_13, normal desktop , why ?
[16:33] <daftykins> fxmulder: it's all about sticking to LTS unless your hardware is exotic/new and needs newer support.
[16:33] <whallz> rypervenche: no, i mean, how can a blind person use CLI ?
[16:33] <black_13> i think that is what i have
[16:34] <whallz> rypervenche: i know its contradictory for a blind person to use a GUI, but there are accesibility tools on GUI, not sure for CLI
[16:34] <black_13> what command line did you used to compile the prog?
[16:34] <rypervenche> whallz: I don't know. I'm not blind. I'm not familiar iwth the softwares for the blind.
[16:35] <ioria> black_13, the usual gcc -o semaphore semaphore.c -lrt -lpthread
[16:35] <whallz> rypervenche: so what about a blind person who uses GUI to sysadmin because he uses some aid that's written on top of GUI, is he not willing to learn CLI ?
[16:35] <black_13> that is what i did
[16:36] <rypervenche> whallz: I am not talking about blind people. My response was not directed to you, but to philip.
[16:36] <FAalbers> Hello , does anyone know how I can have apt-get search for a package in Wily instead of Trusty ?
[16:37] <ioria> black_13, yep,   as i said , seems that you don't have those libs ... just the links to them
[16:37] <tgm4883> FAalbers: why?
[16:37] <whallz> ypervenche: right. sorry for being intrusive. i just find those statements to be kinda arrogant :)
[16:37] <black_13> you know i wonder if had used the wrong setup i think i used the amd setup not i386
[16:37] <whallz> rypervenche: npi
[16:37] <FAalbers> tgm4883, Because Trusty has openocd v0.7.0 while Wily has v0.9.0
[16:38] <moat_joe> I'm having an issue with one of the ubuntu provided ec2 ami's, anyone know a good place to start/person to talk to?
[16:38] <tgm4883> FAalbers: are you planning on upgrading to Wily if it has it?
[16:38] <tgm4883> !info openocd
[16:38] <FAalbers> tgm4883, Does that mean EVERYTHING needs to upgraded to Wily ?
[16:38] <luist> how do i create RAID partitions after they removed the alternative cds!?!??!!?
[16:39] <tgm4883> FAalbers: let me cut to the chase. Don't install wily packages on trusty
[16:39] <rypervenche> whallz: Not arrogant. If you are running a server, you should not be using a GUI. All the tools you need are available (and are usually more useful) on the command line. Any big company will not have GUI-enabled servers.
[16:39] <AbuDhar> is bazaar dead?
[16:39] <tgm4883> rypervenche: +1
[16:39] <FAalbers> tgm4883, OK , So , my Ubuntu version has openocd 0.7.0 , how do I get 0.9.0 then ?
[16:40] <FAalbers> tgm4883, Just do it through a zip file ?
[16:40] <whallz> rypervenche: i know that, but you may 'know how to administrate a server' and still prefer (or need) to use GUI
[16:40] <tgm4883> FAalbers: see if the devs of openocd have a recommended solution for putting it on trusty, see if there is a ppa available, build from source
[16:41] <tgm4883> whallz: rypervenche is this relevant to the channel at all?
[16:41] <rypervenche> whallz: Then you are not a good admin, and that is an entirely different story. Regardless, I will stop talking about this, as it is veering into off-topic.
[16:41] <FAalbers> tgm4883, I'm affraid my knowledgs is rather limitted on ppa and build from source. Could you suggest some reading material to bring me up to date ?
[16:42] <black_13> loria what do you have installed
[16:42] <black_13> this is a dell laptop
[16:42] <FAalbers> tgm4883, And thank you so much for your time :)
[16:43] <ioria> black_13, mmm... not sure is relevant
[16:43] <whallz> rypervenche: :)
[16:43] <black_13> its junk machine i do things : Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU P9700 @ 2.80GHz × 2
[16:43] <tgm4883> FAalbers: according to the devs, looks like they say build from source "Note that this may be an old version, so you may be better off building from source."
[16:44] <tgm4883> FAalbers: I don't know of any good resources, but here is one http://www.howtogeek.com/105413/how-to-compile-and-install-from-source-on-ubuntu/
[16:44] <ioria> black_13, it's not junk :)
[16:45] <black_13> fair enoug
[16:45] <black_13> enough
[16:45] <FAalbers> thanks tgm4883 , will read up on all that first
[16:45] <FAalbers> tgm4883, before asking too many stupid questions :)
[16:45] <levo> how can I directly go to display :1? currently i'm using vnc :1 to view it from :0 .but i want to be able to see it natively
[16:45] <black_13> i noticed something there is no /lib32
[16:45] <rypervenche> levo: ctrl+alt+F8 ? Try that. Any of the F7 through F12
[16:46] <ioria> yep
[16:46] <black_13> but /lib64
[16:46] <levo> rypervenche: didn't work
[16:46] <black_13> this may be silly but i am going to reinstall
[16:46] <rypervenche> levo: You're running two X sessions, correct? One on :0 and one on :1.
[16:47] <levo> rypervenche: yes two different instances of lxde
[16:47] <levo> or lxpanel dunno
[16:47] <ioria> black_13, a little bit :P
[16:48] <black_13> for the last 5 years well last 8 i have been coding on windows
[16:48] <black_13> but it seems that the c++ coding is now being dong on linux
[16:55] <faustinoluiz> Fala ae
[16:56] <faustinoluiz> TEm alguém ai?
[16:56] <xangua> !pt | faustinoluiz
[17:02] <ioria> black_13, are you there ?
[17:02] <spartan2276> How can I get my Ubuntu 12.04LTS Clients to see my upgraded 14.04LTS server?
[17:03] <spartan2276> I had samba installed on the 12.04LTS server prior to upgrading to 14.04LTS but now the 12.04 desktops can't connect
[17:04] <spartan2276> and when they do try the password prompt comes up but no matter what the server wont allow them to see the files in the samba shares
[17:04] <whoami> hello!
[17:06] <whoami> any programmer here?
[17:06] <xangua> !ask
[17:06] <spartan2276> here is my /etc/samba/smb.conf file http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11949320/
[17:07] <spartan2276> So prior to the upgrade of the server this was all working fine :(
[17:09] <phoenixstew> spartan2276, so some clients can connect but face the password issue? or it works intermittently for all clients?
[17:10] <spartan2276> phoenixstew: No no one can connect, even when they enter their username and pass nothing
[17:12] <phoenixstew> spartan2276, timing out, refusing?
[17:12] <spartan2276> refusing
[17:12] <spartan2276> phoenixstew, I tried purging samba and reconfiguring but nothing
[17:13] <davennh> msg cjohnston if you haven't put the order in yet, yeah, that would be a lot easier :)
[17:15] <OerHeks> smbstatus
[17:19] <Pici> spartan2276: you may want to consider looking at https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_4.0_Features_added/changed#Samba_4.0 , since 12.04 had samba3, but 14.04 is on samba4
[17:20] <spartan2276> OerHeks, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11949396/
[17:21] <spartan2276> Pici, I'm not using it as DC just as a file sharing tool
[17:22] <spartan2276> Pici, no there are no windows PC
[17:22] <spartan2276> Pici, just Ubuntu PCs/Server
[17:28] <ioria> spartan2276, usually i start again with a new smb.conf
[17:28] <spartan2276> ioria, how can I wipe it out?
[17:29] <spartan2276> ioria, sudo apt-get remove --purge samba* ?
[17:29] <Pici> spartan2276: security = share is deprecated. You'll need to replace it with security = user
[17:29] <ioria> spartan2276, you don't,  you backup it  like cp smb.conf smab.conf_1
[17:29] <ioria> spartan2276, you don't,  you backup it  like cp smb.conf smb.conf_1
[17:29] <Pici> spartan2276: the other options that you have there should work.
[17:29] <ioria> spartan2276, no, just the smb.conf not the program
[17:34] <spartan2276> ioria, yup I completely broke it
[17:34] <ioria> spartan2276, what you broke ?
[17:34] <spartan2276> ioria, so I deleted the smb.conf file and then created a new one but now samba wont start
[17:35] <ioria> spartan2276, reverse it
[17:36] <ioria> spartan2276, why did you delete it ? i said back up
[17:36] <spartan2276> ioria, I did back it up
[17:36] <spartan2276> ioria, ok it started now
[17:36] <ioria> spartan2276, good :P
[17:38] <Yaiyan> Can anyone recommend any nice irc clients?
[17:38] <spartan2276> ioria, but now the smb.conf is empty
[17:38] <Yaiyan> Xchat-gnome was nice, but didn't work with ZNC
[17:38] <teward> Yaiyan: Hexchat
[17:38] <Yaiyan> And hexchat is ugly as...:(
[17:38] <teward> Yaiyan: irssi (CLI)
[17:38] <teward> Yaiyan: but this isn't a software recommendation channel, really.
[17:38] <Yaiyan> I guess
[17:38] <Yaiyan> Don't really know where else to ask for ubuntu irc clients though :p
[17:39] <Cauterize> I am personally using Weechat right now. I like it.
[17:39] <Yaiyan> I'll look that up, cheers
[17:40] <spartan2276> ioria, is there a clean sample of the smb.conf somewhere?
[17:40] <Yaiyan> Just gutted xchat-gnome doesn't like znc :/
[17:40] <EriC^^> huh
[17:40] <EriC^^> it works fine
[17:40] <Yaiyan> With ssl
[17:40] <DJones> Yaiyan: You should have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat that lists a few to try
[17:40] <Yaiyan> DJones, will do, thanks :)
[17:41] <zeromon_> what is the main concept of snappy ubuntu core?
[17:41] <ioria> spartan2276, in any case copy and save this http://paste.ubuntu.com/11949492/
[17:42] <zeromon_> Does the Ubuntu remove apt-get?
[17:42] <jpds> zeromon_: Sorry?
[17:42] <EriC^^> !snaooy
[17:42] <EriC^^> !snappy
[17:45] <hohum> is there a way to tell the ssh client to explicitly *not* use my keys?  I'm trying to log into a broken device that crashes every time its presented with an SSH key.
[17:46] <jpds> hohum: ssh -i /dev/null
[17:47] <Pici> spartan2276: did you try the suggestion I gave you?
[17:47] <Pici> /36/36
[17:47] <philip> hardware RAID and software RAID which is better
[17:47] <jpds> philip: Both have their advantages and disadvantages
[17:47] <jpds> philip: If one was for certain better, everyone would be using it
[17:48] <philip> which is more preferred
[17:48] <jpds> philip: Again, depends on your use case
[17:48] <spartan2276> Pici, yes
[17:48] <rimdeker> Anybody here using VNC to connect to their mac? My VNC connection over LAN is painfully slow :/
[17:48] <rimdeker> TeamViewer flies by comparison
[17:48] <compdoc> rimdeker, you might look into x2go
[17:49] <philip> mostly adding new harddisk after used one is getting full
[17:49] <spartan2276> ioria, nope same results. All I get is the damn password login and it keeps refusing
[17:49] <jpds> philip: You're using RAID 5?
[17:50] <philip> yes raid 5
[17:50] <rimdeker> compdoc: Alright, will look into it. Thanks
[17:50] <ioria> spartan2276, which smb.conf are you using ?
[17:50] <spartan2276> ioria, the one you gave me
[17:50] <ioria> spartan2276, that's a model it's not configured
[17:51] <ioria> spartan2276, you have to edit it, according to your needs
[17:52] <philip> yes raid 5
[17:52] <spartan2276> ioria, um ok all I need it for is so that the ubuntu 12.04 clients can browse the server and connect to the shares
[17:52] <spartan2276> ioria, well I added my previous shares
[17:53] <ioria> spartan2276, did you make a backup file, this time ?
[17:53] <spartan2276> ioria, yes
[17:53] <ioria> spartan2276, before editing, i mean ?
[17:55] <spartan2276> ioria, yes
[17:55] <ioria> spartan2276, so we are sure that you have a backup of the original file ?
[17:55] <spartan2276> ioria, yes
[17:57] <ioria> spartan2276, sudo cp smb.conf smb.conf_backup
[17:57] <philip> jpds: raid 5
[17:57] <philip> hardware RAID and software RAID which is better
[17:58] <spartan2276> ioria, done
[17:58] <ioria> spartan2276, sudo nano smb.conf   and add at the end this http://paste.ubuntu.com/11949584/
[18:00] <spartan2276> ioria,
[18:00] <spartan2276> ioria, done
[18:00] <ioria> spartan2276, in your home  make a dir   mkdir sambafiles,  for example
[18:01] <spartan2276> ioria, I have to run to a meeting, not sure if you'll be around thanks for your help
[18:02] <ioria> spartan2276, ok
[18:02] <philip> hardware RAID and software RAID which is better
[18:07] <spartan2276> ioria, on some of the bookmarks in nautilus this is the error they all get Could not display "smb://server3122-01/grievance-logs/"
[18:09] <matha> Greetings, I have never had a smartphone and want to get one that I can utilize well with my Ubuntu desktop.  I don't even really know the territory of what to look for or what is important.  Only that I of course want to be able to share files between the two.  Does any one have any suggestions?
[18:09] <xangua> matha: any android smartphone
[18:10] <xangua> you should be able to mount any android 4+ device
[18:10] <ioria> spartan2276, anyway you can retrieve  your original smb.conf from your paste : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11949320/
[18:10] <fgfdgfdsg> hi
[18:10] <fgfdgfdsg> anyone use dual monitors?
[18:10] <fgfdgfdsg> and google hangouts?
[18:11] <ioria> spartan2276, you can'use it now, it's not complete
[18:11] <Fodd> Hey guys. I'm new to Ubuntu, been running it for a few months and havent really played around with it.
[18:11] <Fodd> I've got a few bugs with it. as in, facebook uploader and channel 4 on demand.
[18:12] <spartan2276> ioria, but that was the same issue they were having before I created the new smb.conf
[18:12] <Fodd> Can someone suggest an app for facebook uploader?
[18:12] <ioria> spartan2276, i think so...   but it's better to have a  copy of the previous file you used
[18:13] <spartan2276> ioria, yup I have it
[18:13] <duval> HELLO
[18:14] <ioria> spartan2276, what you wanna do ?
[18:14] <reisio> 'lo duval
[18:14] <spartan2276> ioria, well I rather keep the new file
[18:15] <DonaldPang> anyone here can help with setting up dual monitors?
[18:15] <AbuDhar> yes
[18:15] <squinty_> !details
[18:15] <AbuDhar> what's the problem?
[18:15] <ioria> spartan2276, no, i mean   do you want to go  on ?
[18:16] <spartan2276> ioria, sure. I got 15mins
[18:16] <matha> xangua:  thank you, I've read various forum posts about MTP, PTP, wireless connections  do those things still apply or just old posts?
[18:16] <ioria> spartan2276, in your home  make a dir   mkdir sambafiles,  for example
[18:17] <xangua> matha: define old post, how old¿ Ubuntu supports mounting android 4+ devices via mtp since 12.10
[18:17] <spartan2276> ioria, ok done
[18:17] <ioria> spartan2276, what 's the name ?
[18:18] <philip> hardware RAID and software RAID which is better
[18:18] <spartan2276> ioria, sambafiles
[18:18] <ioria> spartan2276, /home/<user>/sambafiles ?
[18:19] <spartan2276> ioria, yes
[18:19] <ioria> spartan2276, chmod -R 0755 sambafiles
[18:20] <spartan2276> ioria, done
[18:20] <matha> xangua: a post from april 2013 describing MTP support with Linux as "several shades of sucky"
[18:20] <ioria> spartan2276, we start with an anonymous share to check if it's working  ... chown -R nobody:nogroup sambafiles
[18:21] <xangua> matha: not a post from 2015 then¿
[18:22] <matha> no
[18:22] <spartan2276> ioria, ok
[18:22] <matha> i did not find any more recent posts... because the issue is now irrelevent?
[18:22] <ioria> spartan2276, now sudo nano smb.conf and append this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/11949713/
[18:23] <ioria> spartan2276, replace user with your user
[18:24] <naftilos76> Hi is there a tool that guides through the graphics and lcd best settings by probing or whatever other way?
[18:25] <spartan2276> ioria, ok done
[18:25] <ioria> spartan2276, can you paste smb.conf ?
[18:25] <xangua> matha: as I told you already, there is No Issue, zero, nada
[18:26] <spartan2276> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11949739/
[18:27] <spartan2276> ioria, damn I have to go to that meeting now, I'll be back
[18:27] <ioria> spartan2276, well, i said to add the new sections, you replaced one
[18:27] <philip> hardware RAID and software RAID which is better
[18:27] <matha> xangua:  thank you
[18:28] <ioria> spartan2276, but it's ok
[18:29] <drmagoo> philip: proper hardware raid is the better option. Softwareraid puts "load" on the cpu
[18:32] <philip> four harddisk drive is raid 5 better
[18:33] <drmagoo> philip: depends on what your aim is. But raid5 is a good option
[18:33] <philip> okay thank you.Installing ubuntu server
[18:37] <ubuntu299> kjl
[18:37] <ubuntu299> how can i add a item to startup
[18:38] <arooni-mobile> hey everyone;  was considering buying a 500GB crucial bx100 for my lenovo t420; but it looks like sometimes people have an error 2100 and the laptop can't recognize the drive. https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/38yumb/lenovo_thinkpad_t420_ssd_error_2100_at_bootup/ ... should i be concerned?
[18:42] <dk`> Hi
[18:43] <squinty_> ubuntu299,  there should be a "Startup Applications" on your system... then add/remove/edit
[18:43] <dk`> how to usr tar rvf command to append one mode directory using single command I have abc.tgz , I am trying follwing gzip -d abc.tgz | tar rvf - directory/ but its not working ?
[18:43] <dk`> any idea?
[18:44] <dk`> final outcome should be abc.tgz again .
[18:45] <zumba_addict> we got a new installation of 12.0.4. I would like to run this -> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade so I can update some of the tools like git. That should be fine right?
[18:45] <dk`> any idea ?
[18:45] <faLUCE> hello. I have an usb external drive with hfsplus filesystem. It happens quite often that I have to  perform fsck -r on it (they happens often errors on writing or when it is not correctly unmounted)... is there a way to trigger generic errors on this /media/mydevice so to launch automatically fsck ?
[18:46] <xangua> zumba_addict: you wont get any new major updates in Ubuntu, just security updates
[18:46] <zumba_addict> oh
[18:46] <zumba_addict> i just wanted to make sure the tools are updated
[18:46] <squinty_> zumba_addict,  yes but also run   sudo apt-get update before running the second command
[18:46] <zumba_addict> we have apache on it. Will it be affected squinty_?
[18:47] <julian-delphiki> dk`: What exactly are you trying to accomplish? A tar.gz of a directory?
[18:47] <squinty_> zumba_addict,  no idea    never have run apache.
[18:47] <Trab> is there a way to tell why/where ubuntu would be blocking something outbound? I checked IPtables/ufw and there's no rules that should be blocking it, so I'm guessing it's somewhere else
[18:48] <zumba_addict> which is proper? (A) sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  or (B) sudo apt-get upgrade &&  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:48] <dk`> julian-delphiki: nope, I already have tgz would like to add one more directory
[18:48] <squinty_> zumba_addict,  both if you want to keep your system up to date.
[18:48] <zumba_addict> k
[18:49] <Pici> zeromon_: you need to run "sudo apt-get update", but you can choose whether you want to do an upgrade or a dist-upgrade (although I highly suggest always doing the latter)
[18:49] <squinty_> zumba_addict,  security and kernel updates will come via dist-upgrade
[18:49] <zumba_addict> got it
[18:49] <zumba_addict> i think my letter (B) is wrong
[18:49] <zumba_addict> I think it should be sudo apt-get update &&  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:50] <Pici> aye
[18:50] <squinty_> yes
[18:50] <zumba_addict> k
[18:50] <dk`> julian-delphiki: any hint ?
[18:51] <julian-delphiki> dk`: I can't say I've ever done that. I don't recommend doing it that way.
[18:51] <julian-delphiki> I usually move all the things into a sub folder and then create the tar once.
[18:52] <HalfEatenPie_> info
[18:52] <HalfEatenPie_> os[Linux 2.6.32-39-pve x86_64] distro[Debian 7.8] cpu[8 x Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1230 v3 @ 3.30HHz (GenuieIIntel) @ 3.29GHz] mem[Physical: 7.8GB, 61.0% free] disk[Total: 893.9GB, 96.5% free] video[ASPEED Technology, Inc. ASPEED Graphics Family] sound[PC-Speaker - pcsp]
[18:52] <zumba_addict> so if I would like to update the packages and security updates, the complete command would be  sudo apt-get update &&  sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:52] <zumba_addict> am I right squinty_?
[18:53] <dk`> julian-delphiki: ok so what you suggest. my goal is to add directory new/ to abc.tgz and make it tgz again.
[18:53] <dk`> julian-delphiki: in single line
[18:54] <ponyofdeath> hi, trying to have a directory in /var/run/ exist and be owned by a certain user, should i be putting its setup in rc.local or is there a better place for it?
[18:55] <julian-delphiki> dk`: this isn't really an ubuntu support question. Maybe try posting on http://askubuntu.com/ or something?
[18:55] <squinty_> #bash
[18:55] <dk`> julian-delphiki: ok
[18:55] <squinty_> dk, ^^
[18:57] <kro2488> So I was reading that with windows 10 and probably from then on, microsoft may be deciding to make it harder to install other os on computers that come with windows preinstalled. What do you guys think?
[18:58] <squinty_> zumba_addict,   personally I run the dist-upgrade first and then reboot if necessary (ie kernel update) and then again if necessary, run the upgrade.  others views might vary.   you could also just wait for the Software Updater icon to appear and forget about terminal altogether though
[18:59] <zumba_addict> it's in Amazon
[18:59] <zumba_addict> it's an EC2 instance
[18:59] <squinty_> kro2488, not the channel   try ubuntu-offtopic
[18:59] <zumba_addict> it's currently running sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:00] <squinty_> zumba_addict,  speaking of which   new kernel came through  rebooting  bye for now
[19:00] <mestralx> hey guys, I am using different distro(mint). I can't start skype, when i enter skype command into terminal it says only 'aborted'
[19:00] <squinty_> !mint
[19:01] <mestralx> second issue is chrome can't load wiki pages /aw snap error/
[19:01] <zumba_addict> :)
[19:01] <squinty_> mestralx,  mint is not supported here
[19:01] <mestralx> squinty_ i can't get help there and mint is a derivative.
[19:01] <momo_> hi there i need some assistance i freshly installed ubuntu alongside windows 7, when i clicked on a file depicting a key typing in my password , somehow all files inside the personal folder got lost as well as the files on my desktop, at the same time i updated applications and shortly after a window popped up concering ecryptfs and how i could generate a password . I dont remember what the file was called that i clicked on :(.
[19:01] <zumba_addict> upgrade went well squinty_
[19:01] <zumba_addict> i'm worried about dist-upgrade due to kernel panic
[19:01] <Colby2> Is it possible to install Ubuntu using a live USB to another USB?
[19:02] <Dave07747> Hi everyone! My friends and I have have remastered Ubuntu GNOME. We have unpacked the OS with squashfs, made our minor changes and then repacked it. We burned the ISO and tried to boot it, we get an error
[19:02] <squinty_> mestralx,  there are some fine people in mint (spent several years there)  ask there be patient and you will get help
[19:02] <momo_> colby2 yes
[19:02] <zumba_addict> back in early days of my linux, i always had kernel panic after every make install of kernel
[19:02] <Dave07747> "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[19:02] <Dave07747> That is the error we get upon boot
[19:02] <zumba_addict> i don't see that command anymore in HOWTO's such as make menuconfig make dep etc
[19:03] <momo_> colby2 but usb devices are not made to run a system , since theyr not made to delete read write many times
[19:03] <momo_> colby2 it would die soon and ur files aswell , but yes you can do it
[19:04] <Colby2> momo_ That makes sence.
[19:04] <zumba_addict> i was expecting that sudo apg-get upgrade will update git, but it didn't
[19:04] <momo_> colby2 cheers
[19:05] <Dave07747> Hiii, can anyone help me with I problem I ran into involving booting from a CD that has a remastered version of Ubuntu GNOME
[19:05] <squinty_> Dave, ! details
[19:05] <momo_> does anyone know of a german ubuntu channel on freenode
[19:06] <squinty_> !details
[19:06] <brainwash> !de
[19:06] <Colby2> I'm using a computer that has XP and I need to refuge and I can not update anymore. I figured I would give Ubuntu a try but I'm having a hard time installing.
[19:07] <Colby2> What does ubi-partman failed with exit code 10 mean?
[19:07] <chromotic> Hi I want to install git-cola in in my ubuntu 12.04 but I can not proceed because I get this error "Unable to lock the administration directory (var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?"
[19:07] <momo_> colby2 i ve had that 2
[19:07] <momo_> do you have more than 1 harddisk?
[19:08] <momo_> its something related to raid in your bios settings
[19:08] <brainwash> chromotic: which command did you run?
[19:08] <Colby2> No. And since my issues with XP I have reformatted.
[19:08] <squinty_> chrome0,  if you have synaptic or another package manager open shut it down before starting an apt-get etc session
[19:08] <chromotic> This command "apt-get install git-cola"
[19:08] <squinty_> sudo
[19:09] <momo_> colby2 just google it there is a cmd you have to run while ubuntu boots
[19:09] <squinty_> chromotic,  you need to use sudo   sudo apt-get install git-cola
[19:09] <chromotic> oh okay
[19:09] <momo_> colby2 i dont advise you click install anyway
[19:09] <Dave07747> So we get the error as follows:
[19:09] <Dave07747> "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[19:10] <Dave07747> We unpacked with squashfs
[19:10] <Dave07747> And in all honesty, the most major changes were replacing the graphics with our own
[19:10] <momo_> colby2 watch out that you save your files well, i nonchalantly lost half of my files doing several mistakes....
[19:10] <Dave07747> The names were kept the same
[19:11] <Dave07747> squinty: the above details enough?
[19:15] <Dave07747> momo: squinty: we used squashfs to unpack the OS
[19:15] <Dave07747> Then we made our changes
[19:15] <Colby2> momo_ Doesn't dell bios have an issue with any drive that isn't an hdd booting before it?
[19:16] <Dave07747> And then we burned the ISO and tried to boot
[19:16] <Dave07747> Only to get the error "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[19:16] <G3RM> anyone with experience with transmission-daemon?
[19:17] <tonyyarusso> Dave07747: Did you forget to resquash it?
[19:17] <Dave07747> Nope
[19:17] <Dave07747> It boots, and the GNOME menu starts up
[19:17] <Dave07747> But then after a while a terminal like menu shows up
[19:17] <Dave07747> And the error shows
[19:18] <Colby2> momo_ I have found the article explaining raid. How can I pull up the window when Ubuntu is loading from a live usb?
[19:19] <momo_> colby2 that i dont know , i solved that problem by plugging out my 2nd harddisk
[19:21] <Dave07747> tonyyarusso: it was resquahed and it boots. However after a while, the error message shows up
[19:21] <Dave07747> "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[19:23] <jak2000> hi all how to check if a port is opened?
[19:23] <jak2000> if is open?
[19:26] <vlt> jak2000: I use "netstat -tulpen"
[19:26] <squinty_> Dave07747,   might want to try googling for that complete error message plus the words ubuntu and solved.  after doing a quick google it would appear there could be various reasons.  might be an idea to do some reading to see if you can narrow down the possibilities
[19:27] <Dave07747> Will do, tho after a while of searching and trying still no luck unfortunately
[19:27] <Dave07747> squinty:Thank you though
[19:28] <jak2000> vlt: http://pastie.org/10315058
[19:28] <jak2000> why was opened the 8080 port?
[19:29] <Pici> jak2000: you opened it, but there is nothing listening on that port
[19:30] <jak2000> mmm
[19:30] <jak2000> tomcat
[19:30] <jak2000> would be
[19:33] <Blackclawz> ok.
[19:36] <squinty_> Colby2, if by "window" you mean a tty session then just press F1 immediately after your computer splash screen has disappeared (or put another way at the Ubuntu Access Options splash).  that will take you to a menu.  highlight first entry and press the Tab key.  backspace over splash and quiet and the type   text   that should take you to tty
[19:42] <John[Lisbeth]> Blackclawz: hello
[19:42] <Blackclawz> Hi
[19:43] <logikos> what is the best way to remove the text layer from a previously OCR'd scanned in pdf file (reason is because i'm using pdftk to rotate pages then i need to redo the OCR)
[19:43] <John[Lisbeth]> everyone Blackclawz is a new linux user who is having trouble with steam.
[19:43] <julian-delphiki> logikos: that sounds like a pretty specific question. You might want to get in contact with people that use that software, not general ubuntu help
[19:44] <julian-delphiki> Blackclawz: what issues are you having
[19:44] <squinty_> Blackclawz,   there is a #ubuntu-steam irc channel here on freenode
[19:44] <logikos> its for a script running on ubuntu server .. i asked in a few places but no reply so far...
[19:44] <logikos> thought I'd try here
[19:44] <Blackclawz> When i open up steam it says login or create an account ,and i get frozen iand i cant do anything further
[19:49] <Blackclawz> the problems i am having on steam is tat,when i open it up it either says login or create and account i click on login, and the screen i all frozen no matter what i do to stop it
[19:51] <xtor> I want to make root into a normal root rather than going through this sudo rigmarole, how would I do that and add a password for root and enable ssh?
[19:53] <wileee> xtor, your root intentions are beyond any support here
[19:53] <Pici> /36/70
[19:54] <wileee> and a bad idea with ubuntu's design, however as it seems you're aware of OS's that fit this model, use tham.
[19:54] <wileee> them*
[19:55] <brainwash> !root
[19:55] <TJ-> xtor: there's some details here including how to enable root: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[19:55] <OnkelTem> Hi all. I'm connecting via ssh to a ubuntu 14.04 from 12.04. The problem is that I get very long delay until interactive session started.
[19:56] <OnkelTem> debug1: Entering interactive session.
[19:56] <OnkelTem> this is what I see. Why this pause occurs?
[19:57] <TJ-> OnkelTem: how long a delay?
[19:57] <OnkelTem> TJ-: let me count, moment
[19:58] <OnkelTem> TJ-: 21 seconds
[19:58] <OnkelTem> This is local machine, I access it via LAN
[19:59] <TJ-> OnkelTem: That will be something on the target PC being run at log-in --- possibly the automated MOTD (message of the say)
[20:00] <TJ-> OnkelTem: see for more background https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UpdateMotd
[20:00] <OnkelTem> TJ-: thank you
[20:00] <xtor> wileee, is it possible for me to create another sudo user that does NOT require typing in a password each time a privileged command is to be run?
[20:00] <John[Lisbeth]> you guys blackclawz is like 12 years old and needs to be guided a little bit
[20:00] <qsub> xtor yes
[20:00] <John[Lisbeth]> He doesn't know how to advocate for himself on irc
[20:00] <wileee> xtor, I can't help you in this, sorry. ;)
[20:00] <qsub> xtor you have to give him the NOPASSWD option in sudoers
[20:01] <xtor> qsub, ahh gotcha. I wonder how easy it is to create a 2nd sudo user or maybe I should alter the original one
[20:01] <TJ-> xtor: see "man sudoers" for info on the NOPASSWD option, and consider making it selective for only particular non-shell executables
[20:01] <reisio> who's blackclawz
[20:02] <xtor> qsub is it usually done through a direct edit of the sudoers file or is the preferred methid through another shell utility
[20:02] <qsub> xtor you can either alter the current one if you wish. if you create a new user you have to create a entry for him in sudoers
[20:02] <TJ-> xtor: *always* experiment on a 2nd user account to avoid locking yourself out inadvertently!
[20:02] <energizer> how do i do something like "echo 5 |  xargs expr + 1"
[20:02] <qsub> xtor the recommended way is a direct edit on sudoers
[20:02]  * xtor sighs
[20:02] <qsub> you should probably not try to do it in another way
[20:02] <xtor> qsub,  ahh that's good to know I like that. Just need to back up a text file
[20:02] <TJ-> xtor: use "sudoedit" too, it checks the syntax before saving
[20:03] <xtor> sudoedit, is that made specifically to edit sudo users, TJ- ?
[20:03] <ExpertKillerZ8> Hi peoples.
[20:03] <TJ-> xtor: see "man sudoedit" == "sudo -e " and are equivalent
[20:04] <energizer> in bash, how do i take the number of lines in a file (wc -l) and subtract 5 before printing
[20:05] <qsub> energizer VAR=$(command | wc -l);VAR=$((VAR-5)) i believe
[20:05] <qsub> something like that
[20:05] <qsub> ask #bash
[20:06] <OnkelTem> TJ-: you was right. /etc/update-motd.d/90-updates-avaiable script runs that long
[20:07] <TJ-> energizer:   awk 'ENDFILE{print NR - 5}' /etc/fstab
[20:08] <TJ-> OnkelTem: That's a common issue. It doesn't harm to remove the execute permissions from the time-wasting script(s)
[20:09] <andras_> e
[20:09] <wileee> xtor, Curious here, did you understand any of what was told you and the protection you would use?
[20:09] <energizer> qsub: TJ-: thanks yall
[20:09] <levo> how can i map tty8 to dispaly :1?
[20:11] <xtor> wileee,  some of it yes
[20:12] <wileee> xtor, Cool, just concerned as I was from the beginning that you're safe.
[20:12] <xtor> TJ evidently there's a directory called /etc/sudoers.d in which it is recommended that you put your changes in a sort of differential format I assume
[20:20] <lonelyCoder> Hey everyone! :D
[20:22] <AbuDhar> hey.
[20:24] <tanuki> I have Trusty running as a VM. A couple of times now, it has ended up booting into memtest86+. Why?
[20:25] <tanuki> Er, Trusty Server.
[20:25] <tanuki> The VM is headless.
[20:25] <brainwash> !server
[20:25] <tanuki> Thanks.
[20:26] <wileee> tanuki, run a sudo update-grub if you modify grub generally you would run this, some context would help.
[20:26] <tanuki> wileee: I'm pretty sure I didn't modify grub, but I'll try that.
[20:27] <wileee> tanuki, Check your fstab and /etc/default/grub is the general modify for a number of options
[20:28] <tanuki> To make life weirder: When I select "reboot" in memtest86+, it boots to Trusty.
[20:30] <wileee> tanuki, Did not ask but this is an install, not a live?
[20:30] <rfmon_> Can somebody help me expand sda1? https://i.imgur.com/Ey1vD59.png
[20:30] <tanuki> wileee: As far as I'm aware.
[20:31] <k1l_> rfmon_: first: boot up a live system
[20:31] <tanuki> It might still be booting from the ISO, though I thought I disconnected it
[20:31] <rfmon_> It is a live system :) k1l_
[20:32] <k1l_> rfmon_: then, move or delete sda2, then you can resize sda1 to fill the space up to sda2 again
[20:32] <rfmon_> I wonder if I have to allocate it  first?
[20:33] <IPhoton> hello, I am recording my voice and I hear a lot of static on the background. Nothing that I will be able to do willl help. I have tried to remove it with Audacity, but still it's terrible. I think it has to do with the fact that I don't have realtek?
[20:33] <k1l_> rfmon_: what is inside sda2? could be that its mounted or used (swap) so its blocked to unmount and be moved. so unmount that partitions first
[20:33] <IPhoton> I know that on Windows on this same computer, it worked really well with my microphone
[20:34] <rfmon_> k1l_, it should you be swap. It seems that I can't unmount it.
[20:34] <TJ-> IPhoton: maybe the microphone has a boost mode which need disabling
[20:35] <rfmon_> k1l_: It just says that /dev/sda2 isn't mounted.
[20:35] <mike_papa> Hello. I'm trying to set up my nvidia gtx275 and intel GPU for multi monitor use. Unfortunately when in BIOS I set iGPU Multimonitor option to Enable, I get only black screen. I can use nvidia only to drive both monitors, but as it is rather old one, it does not support HDMI audio. I'd like to get it from intel's GPU (I don't need much power for playing movies). Any ideas? I tried property drivers and novueau.
[20:35] <k1l_> rfmon_: right click, then select unmount should work.
[20:35] <erkan^> doesn´t skype support 64-bits for Ubunto?
[20:35] <mike_papa> Ubuntu is fresh 15.04 install
[20:35] <IPhoton> hmm, I doubt it, I looked at all my setings
[20:36] <mike_papa> Motherboard is Asus Z87/DUAL of that matters.
[20:36] <Joel> is there a way to see what user accounts a .deb will create before installing it?
[20:36] <rfmon_> k1l_: Everything besides "Manage Flags" and "Information" is greyed out. Could it be because it's a virtual machine (VMWare)? I just mounted the ISO :)
[20:37] <bekks> Joel: You can extract it, and investigate the scripts shipped.
[20:37] <rfmon_> k1l_: In daemon tools that is.
[20:37] <TJ-> IPhoton: I'd have suggested interference picked up by wires but you say Windows has no problem; so the next obvious issue is the boost setting, which will usually cause distortion but not necessarily 'static' as in white noise
[20:37] <Joel> bekks, hrm, k, was hoping there was some dpkg commands to show scripts run
[20:38] <k1l_> rfmon_: wait what? what sort of setup is this? i thought that was a regular ubuntu hardware install and a live-cd/usb
[20:38] <bekks> Joel: Nope.
[20:39] <k1l_> rfmon_: you cant move partitions while the same system is running.
[20:40] <TJ-> Joel: You can inspect the postinst scripts of the deb with "dpkg-deb --control <archive.deb>" (see "man dpkg-deb")
[20:40] <Joel> TJ-, thanks
[20:40] <rfmon_> k1l_: I have a virtual machine (Ubuntu), the storage was supposed to be dynamic - but it hit it's max size of 40 GB, so I had to expand it in VMWare. "The disk was successfully expanded. You must repartition the disk and expand the file systems from within the guest operating system."
[20:40] <bekks> TJ-: Oh, thank you. Things I learned. :)
[20:41] <rfmon_> k1l_: So I'm trying to repartition it and expand it. But I can't really do that :D
[20:43] <OnkelTem> TJ-: found the reason of that update-available thingy. I have date set to 2001 year on my laptop to where I was connecting :)
[20:44] <TJ-> rfmon_: switch the storage to LVM, then you can make multiple separate physical partitions into Physical Volumes (PV), add the PVs to a Volume Group (VG), and then allocate Logical Volumes (LVs) for the required files-ystems  - all without needing to disturb existing partioning
[20:44] <OnkelTem> for this reason updates-available cached file had been creating with incorrect date
[20:44] <rfmon_> That sounds like a pretty neat idea TJ-, I'll give it a shot.
[20:44] <TJ-> OnkelTem: Thanks for that info - that's an unexpected 'buggette' :)
[20:48] <xMopxShell>  /tmp should always be root:root 777, right?
[20:48] <bekks> It should be 1777, ideally.
[20:50] <Joel> TJ-, interestingly enough it wouldn't give me the scripts, I ahd to extract to egt them :\
[20:54] <XenophonF> hey all - i'm looking for jetty9 packages suitable for use with 14.04
[20:54] <TJ-> Joel: that's what --control option does... by default to a directory called DEBIAN/ (or you can give it one) - then you'll have "DEBIAN/{pre,post}inst" along with the conffiles, control, md5sums and other scripts
[20:55] <XenophonF> does anyone know if there's a ppa or something i can use? i'd like to avoid maintaining my own installation of jetty from source
[20:57] <xMopxShell> bekks: thanks
[20:59] <maggots> anyone know any text editors for snappy core
[20:59] <reisio> ...
[20:59] <wish^^> Anyone know any good desktop environments for ubuntu?
[21:00] <k1l_> wish^^: there are a lot in the repos, just go and find the best yourself :)
[21:00] <k1l_> wish^^: http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ and others
[21:03] <wish^^> k1l_ thanks
[21:03] <xheart> hi guys, i recently installed 14.04lts on my 32bit PC. the issue i have now is after using the browser chrome or mozilla for 15mins approx it starts getting slow until it just stalls. do I need to download something extra to avoid this?
[21:03] <xheart> i have to restart to be able to enter again
[21:06] <xheart> ?
[21:07] <wish^^> Ive used Unity, and i quite like it. Im just bored of it and want a change. Any ideas?
[21:08] <k1l_> wish^^: there is gnome-shell, kde, xfce, lxde, mate and other DEs in the repos. just try them
[21:09] <Bashing-om> xheart: A thought, Memory constraints ? what do ' free ' and 'top' reveal about the memory. while running and before the system shuts down ?
[21:16] <unknown___> Test
[21:16] <netvergent> hey everyone can bash be repaired? When I type export it says command not found. when I type $echo $BASH no echo reply. when I type sudo grep export .bashrc -n it says command no directory or file found
[21:17] <brainwash> netvergent: how did you break it in the first place?
[21:17] <reisio> netvergent: what does 'help | head -1' say?
[21:17] <xheart> bashing how i check that?
[21:18] <netvergent> I never broke it!
[21:19] <netvergent> GNU bash, version 4.3.30(1)-release (i686-pc-linux-gnu)
[21:20] <netvergent> can bash be repaired?
[21:22] <Tzunamii> There's a first for everything haha. You can always uninstall (purge) the package and reinstall it fresh
[21:22] <netvergent> uggg
[21:22] <netvergent> well if I do, its going to be a freepbx iso. no more line by line configuration.
[21:23] <netvergent> wasted to much time trying to make a zoneminder install work with this package
[21:24] <Tzunamii> Did you experiment on a production box?
[21:24] <netvergent> no
[21:24] <netvergent> I think this version could be to new.
[21:26] <hwpplayer1> Hi friends
[21:26] <Niju> Evening
[21:27] <hwpplayer1> How it is going on
[21:27] <Niju> Slow, you?
[21:27] <hwpplayer1> i'm happy with the news about pre installed thinkpad and other things
[21:27] <hwpplayer1> i'm fine thanks
[21:27] <Niju> Pre installed thinkpad?
[21:27] <hwpplayer1> yes i'll give the link
[21:28] <Niju> cool
[21:29] <hwpplayer1> http://tinyurl.com/okfyap2
[21:30] <Niju> interesting
[21:31] <netvergent> u know...I think I found out why im having  a export issue. It works now...but at the root directory. its spitting out tons of lines vs "command not found" sound like its not in the path
[21:39] <hwpplayer1> I forgot to use ubuntu
[21:39] <hwpplayer1> i had installed ubuntu server
[21:39] <hwpplayer1> now which ubuntu should i download
[21:39] <Mesmerize> hello fellow ubuntu users
[21:39] <adlid> hi
[21:40] <k1l_> hwpplayer1: can you rephrase that question and give more details? are you looking for a server install? or a specific desktop?
[21:40] <hwpplayer1> Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS there is
[21:40] <hwpplayer1> i don't need server now
[21:40] <hwpplayer1> but my first ubuntu experience was server
[21:40] <k1l_> hwpplayer1: so what is the question?
[21:41] <Nokaji> any stats on 14.04 users upgrading to 15.04 ? -or- alternatively, any major reasons for doing so?
[21:41] <hwpplayer1> is Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS okay or which version
[21:41] <daftykins> Nokaji: LTS to non-LTS? wouldn't do it.
[21:41] <k1l_> hwpplayer1: ubuntu LTS got 5 years support. so that is a good start.
[21:41] <adlid> I would give 15.04 a month, or two.
[21:41] <Nokaji> oh, didn't realsie that, thanks
[21:41] <hwpplayer1> okay i'll try
[21:42] <k1l_> Nokaji: you need to think about if you want to upgrade every 6 months until the next LTS
[21:43] <Nokaji> k1l_: considering the mileage i got out of that piece of garbage called xp and all the rest, I'm prolly in no hurry to upgrade
[21:44] <Nokaji> when is the next LTS then?
[21:44] <Mesmerize> If an ubuntu update broke cryptsetup somehow, and I can't properly mount my full disk encryption sda3 partition, how can I repair that? Is that part of grub? It gets past the grub screen but it can't get past mounting the disk
[21:44] <Nokaji> i did know all this at one point
[21:44] <k1l_> Nokaji: LTS is a good start. the actual one it 14-04 and the next one will be 16.06
[21:44] <k1l_> *16.04
[21:44] <Nokaji> 2016 it is then
[21:45] <david__> hi
[21:45] <david__> chanel in spanish?
[21:45] <reisio> david__: /msg alis list *ubunt*es
[21:45] <k1l_> !es | david__
[21:49] <hwpplayer1> it's enough fast torrent
[21:50] <hwpplayer1> anyone from ubuntu company here ?
[21:51] <hwpplayer1> i mean canonical
[21:51] <k1l_> hwpplayer1: you mean canonical? you can adress them on their webpage
[21:51] <hwpplayer1> i thought an administrator from canonical is here
[21:52] <k1l_> hwpplayer1: what is the issue?
[21:52] <daftykins> hwpplayer1: no, volunteers
[21:52] <hwpplayer1> no i just wanted to know if there someone is
[21:52] <hwpplayer1> okay it's nice i'm not unhappy with that
[21:53] <k1l_> hwpplayer1: please lets just focus on actual hardware support in here. for general talk we have #ubuntu-offtopic . this channel is run by volunteers from the ubuntu community.
[21:53] <hwpplayer1> understand thanks
[21:54] <edupt> I am using the ubuntu 12.04 in ZedBoard, the ZedBoard has an OLED. When I start the board and start the ubuntu, it is showing the memory used. I would like to know, if it is possible to send a word I want to the OLED?
[21:54] <reisio> don't see why not
[21:58] <Nokaji> I've got one - should my HDD & SDD partitions be mounted in media or mnt? - I'm getting conflicting answers on the web. Some say mount is the new mnt, some say mount is for USBs and stuff
[21:59] <Nokaji> media is the new mnt*
[21:59] <daftykins> media would be good
[21:59] <daftykins> mnt is more like when doing chroots
[21:59] <reisio> if you're doing it manually, it doesn't matter
[21:59] <daftykins> but essentially they're just paths, it doesn't matter at all
[21:59] <reisio> yup
[21:59] <reisio> I use /mnt/ personally
[21:59] <reisio> new things are stupid
[22:00] <wileee> you curmudgeon lol
[22:00] <reisio> give me a reason to use something new and I'll do it
[22:00] <reisio> just being new isn't enough :p
[22:00] <jak2000> how to change the linux hostname_
[22:00] <Nokaji> media for usb seemed to make more sense however I cnahged them all to media on pontentially poor advice and then back again, now i have duplicates in both paths
[22:00] <reisio> media is plural :p
[22:01] <reisio> yup, pointlessly rename something and you end up with two things
[22:01] <Nokaji> there wre reasons, i forget exactly, something about slightly different functions and not being visible in one
[22:01] <reisio> :D
[22:01] <hwpplayer1> http://www.howtogeek.com/197934/how-to-change-your-hostname-computer-name-on-ubuntu-linux/
[22:01] <hwpplayer1> sorry for the long address
[22:02] <daftykins> hwpplayer1: why the link?
[22:02] <Nokaji> and media being for temporary mounts - for whatever reason
[22:02] <hwpplayer1> jak2000 asked it
[22:02] <daftykins> hwpplayer1: use nicknames to highlight who you're talking to
[22:02] <hwpplayer1> ok thanks
[22:03] <Nokaji> reisio: How would i delete the duplicate, a clue would do
[22:03] <reisio> Nokaji: which two have you?
[22:04] <Nokaji> I'd have tocheck, I have some 14 partitions, some are knonwn by  long alphanumeric, partly why i fiddled with them actually
[22:04] <Nokaji> SSD x2 was showing up as 476434FJ6dFG5 or sme such, I did get it fixed though, the duplicates still have the alpha' name
[22:05] <TechMonger> I am trying to use putty from a windows7 computers to ssh into a ubuntu14.04 computer with X11 -X
[22:05] <Nokaji> I think it may be causing me a minor problem as it is
[22:05] <reisio> TechMonger: try harder
[22:05] <TechMonger> \
[22:05] <reisio> Nokaji: yeah?
[22:05] <TechMonger> xp
[22:05] <TechMonger> i get errors
[22:05] <Nokaji> eg can't change proerties as they change back
[22:05] <newbie> !latest
[22:06] <reisio> Nokaji: what properties are you trying to change?
[22:07] <Nokaji> paths, auto mount, title, display rubbish bin etc
[22:07] <Nokaji> I'm mainly there but would like to tidy it up and be consistent
[22:07] <Awesomecase> whenever I try to ./configure freetype-2.6 I get this https://paste.ubuntu.com/11950762/ , it appears to be a problem with bzip2
[22:07] <Nokaji> not a major deal, i have a coupla books now so will find it eventually
[22:09] <reisio> Nokaji: :)
[22:09] <ubuntu368> hi! would anyone be able to help me? I just installed xubuntu in an attempt to set up a dual-boot with my win8.1 on my laptop today. After the install, I am unable to boot windows (or find the bios for that matter). Halp?
[22:10] <reisio> ubuntu368: pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg and the output of sudo lsblk -f
[22:11] <TechMonger> I am trying to use putty from a windows7 computers to ssh into a ubuntu14.04 computer with X11 -X and i get errors
[22:12] <daftykins> TechMonger: errors doing what?
[22:12] <reisio> TechMonger: what errors
[22:13] <brainwash> !details
[22:13] <TechMonger> i think its bc i dont know what to put in the X display location box in putty
[22:13] <daftykins> you can't use SSH -X with putty
[22:13] <TechMonger> *dies
[22:13] <daftykins> but it's not very clear what you're trying to say you're doing
[22:14] <ubuntu368> reisio: http://pastebin.com/VALALPfg
[22:14] <TechMonger> i want to run programs like firefox and mysql-workbench remotely
[22:14] <daftykins> TechMonger: you need something like cygwin installed for that
[22:14] <TechMonger> damn
[22:14] <ubuntu368> reisio: hope I did it correctly
[22:15] <daftykins> TechMonger: PuTTY is pure CLI
[22:15] <TechMonger> cygwin uses ssh?
[22:16] <daftykins> cygwin usage is beyond the scope of this i think.
[22:17] <daftykins> TechMonger: why do you want to run firefox from another system?
[22:17] <rdzzl> reisio:  let me know if there's anything else I gotta do in order to identify the problem
[22:17] <qsub> TechMonger http://www.x.org/wiki/
[22:17] <TechMonger> so i can download stuff to the system
[22:17] <daftykins> TechMonger: that's what wget is for...
[22:17] <Awesomecase> Whenever I try to ./configure freetype-2.6 in an attempt to get matplotlib working as detailed in http://newcoder.io/dataviz/part-0/ (The matplotlib error is http://paste.ubuntu.com/11950801/,  I get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/11950795/. Could I please get some help? I'm new to ubuntu
[22:17] <TechMonger> i cant wget my google drive
[22:18] <k1l_> TechMonger: you can use sftp. that is included into ssh
[22:18] <daftykins> why would you bother?
[22:18] <TechMonger> i use google drive to file share
[22:18] <daftykins> TechMonger: i think you're going about this task in a wholly inefficient way
[22:18] <TechMonger> might be
[22:18] <TechMonger> i also want to run mysql-workbench too
[22:19] <daftykins> tell us what you actually want to achieve, not the way you think you want to be able to do it
[22:19] <TechMonger> the firefox was an added bonous
[22:19] <qsub> TechMonger if you really want to open firefox remotely you can download the X11 "app"
[22:19] <TechMonger> hmm
[22:19] <qsub> it's pretty much a "graphical putty"
[22:19] <TechMonger> is it ligit?
[22:19] <daftykins> you're going to divert this guy to a completely foolish approach if you offer solutions without knowing the true task :)
[22:20] <qsub> i'm just giving him what he asked for
[22:20] <daftykins> yes, that's the problem
[22:20] <evilrob> contemplating use (and purchase) of landscape for building a 20 node openstack cluster.  I'm wondering about the makeup of the cluster at different numbers of nodes.
[22:21] <TechMonger> the task is run mysql-workbench remotely off a ubuntu computer on a windows computer
[22:21] <qsub> TechMonger or you can try and see if you can get it with wget
[22:21] <qsub> if it's a file
[22:21] <TechMonger> sigh
[22:21] <evilrob> for instance: what is the minmum number of nodes (including ceph) in order to provide high availability (where losing one node only affects virtual machines running on that node)
[22:21] <reisio> putty's already graphical...
[22:21] <daftykins> i don't think google drive presents normal URLs direct to files
[22:21] <evilrob> and with that minimum HA cluster, how many of them would be compute nodes?
[22:22] <rdzzl> reisio: did the evilrob http://pastebin.com/VALALPfg offer any clues as to what I've done to fuck it all up?
[22:22] <qsub> reisio so how do you ssh with -X / -Y via putty?
[22:22] <reisio> daftykins: I've clicked on a link that went to a google drive file that had a download link
[22:22] <rdzzl> clearly not supposed to @rob in that sentence; getting sleepy o.o
[22:23] <reisio> qsub: dunno, rather windowsy app, putty
[22:23] <qsub> TechMonger get the X11 app if you really need to run whatever app you need to remotely
[22:23] <daftykins> rdzzl: keep the language family friendly thanks
[22:23] <rdzzl> daftykins: my apologies
[22:23] <qsub> reisio do you even know what's xwindows?
[22:23] <daftykins> reisio: you can't
[22:23] <reisio> rdzzl: sorry what'm I looking at this for?
[22:23] <TechMonger> ok i guess X11 app is my solution
[22:24] <daftykins> it requires other software like xming
[22:24] <rdzzl> reisio: wasn't it you that told me to look for it?
[22:24]  * reisio doesn't care about putty
[22:24] <reisio> rdzzl: for what?...
[22:24] <Tzunamii> Use X2Go on the Windows box for good and free connection to a *nix X server
[22:24] <rdzzl> hi! would anyone be able to help me? I just installed xubuntu in an attempt to set up a dual-boot with my win8.1 on my laptop today. After the install, I am unable to boot windows (or find the bios for that matter). Halp? <-- was the thing you replied to
[22:24] <reisio> I'd kill for a complete sentence at this point
[22:24] <reisio> rdzzl: ah
[22:24] <qsub> reisio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System
[22:24] <reisio> rdzzl: so sda4 is windows?
[22:24] <rdzzl> reisio: im sorry im a complete rookie @ linux, partitions, dual-boot and whatnot
[22:24] <reisio> qsub: ...what about it?
[22:25] <rdzzl> reisio: how can I tell? I guess it might be?
[22:25] <wileee> qsub, You are not familiar with this channel, calling out some like this makes you look plain stupid.
[22:25] <reisio> rdzzl: how big is the drive?
[22:25] <qsub> wileee welp looks like you just did it
[22:26] <Tzunamii> daftykins: Sorry to direct this to you directly, but would you please point me to a minimal Ubuntu installation ISO for VMs, please
[22:26] <reisio> rdzzl: anyway, your GRUB doesn't have a listing for Windows
[22:26] <qsub> expressing facts is different thing though
[22:26] <daftykins> Tzunamii: no
[22:26] <Tzunamii> daftykins: I like your elaborate answer, thank you
[22:26] <rdzzl> reisio:  drive is 260gig so it makes sense it if is windows. Perhaps worth mentioning that I went with the "install alongside" option when trying to install linux
[22:26] <reisio> rdzzl: you can try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair#A2nd_option_:_install_Boot-Repair_in_Ubuntu
[22:26] <reisio> rdzzl: if that doesn't work we can fix it manually
[22:27] <daftykins> Tzunamii: i am a human being, not a link provider :)
[22:27] <rdzzl> reisio: I actually tried that before coming on here. Got some error stating im in legacy mode
[22:28] <wileee> qsub, I have been on this channel a long time, it is obvious whom knows what and is guessing, there are regulars here.
[22:29] <wileee> build your little straw man
[22:29] <qsub> wilee apparently being here a long time didn't give you a brain
[22:29] <wileee> lol
[22:30] <wileee> nor can you spell
[22:30] <daftykins> lets drop the urinating contest and return to topic now
[22:30] <daftykins> qsub: your disrespect toward a channel regular isn't useful, please drop it
[22:31] <qsub> yeah obviously being a regular gives you the right to call people stupid for pointing out other people mistakes
[22:32] <CosmicNoise> What is the chat version of the ubuntu room?
[22:32] <TechMonger> what are the leading video editing programs for ubuntu?
[22:32] <rdzzl> reisio: I probably messed up on several occations trying to arrange this dual boot stuff, but I got to say it has been a really long and dire afternoon trying to clean my mess in this unfamiliar OS
[22:32] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl, it can be a little daunting at first. There's a learning curve, certainly - but once you pass it, the fruits of your labour will last the rest of your computing life.
[22:33] <rdzzl> CosmicNoise: I hope so. Last time I tried ubuntu it didn't have support for my wifi card. This laptop it seems to work except im unable to boot my w8.1 which is an issue :p
[22:33] <CosmicNoise> CosmicNoise, the confusion comes from how much freedom and choice there is with Linux. Eventually, you'll come to revere that freedom and coice.
[22:34] <wileee> mmmm platitudes
[22:34] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl, it is usually best to install Windows first. Then install ubuntu - it will automatically detect that Windows has been installed and give you the option to install alongside it.
[22:34] <rdzzl> CosmicNoise: it did. I did. And now it doesn't find windows
[22:34] <daftykins> ^ but only if booted in the same mode the Windows OS was installed in.
[22:34] <daftykins> legacy with legacy, EFI with EFI.
[22:34] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl, okay, so sounds like you just have to update grub.
[22:35] <TechMonger> can anyone recomend a video editing program?
[22:35] <CosmicNoise> TechMonger, Blender?
[22:35] <rdzzl> daftykins: see that's where it gets difficult to me. Ihavenoideawhatimdoing
[22:35] <CosmicNoise> TechMonger, not really, my bad.
[22:36] <TechMonger> gimp do vids?
[22:36] <rdzzl> CosmicNoise: I tried that ( think) by doing sudo update-grub in terminal
[22:36] <reisio> rdzzl: you could try http://dpaste.com/0HZEB96.txt
[22:36] <daftykins> rdzzl: is it really even worth resolving this when win10 is out soon? :P
[22:36] <reisio> hahah
[22:36] <rdzzl> reisio: what do I do with that?
[22:37] <rdzzl> daftykins: haven't even watched a trailer of it. Not having high hopes for new win versions anyway. :p
[22:37] <reisio> rdzzl: put it into grub.cfg, reboot, try it out
[22:37] <rdzzl> reisio: anywhere in the .cfg ?
[22:37] <CosmicNoise> TechMonger, nah. Maybe I wasn't totally wrong with Blender. Seems to get some great reviews for video editing.
[22:37] <daftykins> lol trailer.
[22:37] <CosmicNoise> TechMonger, so that would be my recommendation.
[22:37] <daftykins> it's not a film!
[22:37] <reisio> rdzzl: anywhere between a } and menuentry, yeah
[22:38] <daftykins> i've been using the preview, it's good
[22:38] <reisio> daftykins: too late, I've already decided that was a joke about win10 being awful
[22:38] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl, also try this "sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg" in command line.
[22:39] <rdzzl> damn do I have 2x linux installed O.o
[22:39] <rdzzl> gah can someone hit me with a stick
[22:40] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl, not likely. The grub sometimes has double entries... or perhaps one is recovery mode.
[22:40] <rdzzl> reisio: not finding ª} anywhere
[22:41] <reisio> rdzzl: grub.cfg is made up of entries that begin with 'menuentry' and end with '}'
[22:41] <reisio> you can add a new entry anywhere not within an extant one
[22:42] <rdzzl> reisio: failed to save document
[22:42] <rdzzl> gah
[22:42] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl, you'll have to be root to edit the document.
[22:42] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl, try sudo gedit grub.cfg
[22:42] <CosmicNoise> Enter pw, etc.
[22:43] <rdzzl> gedit command not found
[22:43] <CosmicNoise> What distro are you on?
[22:43] <bekks> Dont use sudo with graphical applications.
[22:43] <rdzzl> uh xubuntu
[22:43] <bekks> You'll likely mess up permissions.
[22:43] <reisio> mousepad?
[22:43] <CosmicNoise> Ah.
[22:44] <CosmicNoise> Yes, it'll be mousepad.
[22:44] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl, gedit is better than mousepad.
[22:44] <reisio> mousepad will suffice
[22:44] <rdzzl> im installing gedit (I believe - if sudo apt-get install installs it)
[22:44] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl, it will.
[22:44] <ntran> you can just 'gksudo mousepad grub.cfg'
[22:45] <rdzzl> so uhm gedit opens grub.cfg but file is empty
[22:45] <ntran> are you in the correct dir
[22:45] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl, sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:46] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl, when i said "sudo gedit grub.cfg", I was assuming you had already gone to the /boot/grub directory.
[22:46] <rdzzl> ah that makes sense
[22:46] <rdzzl> im looking for a file on my desktop that isnt on my desktop
[22:46] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl, yep, so it just creates it for you.
[22:46] <reisio> not gonna find it there, then
[22:47] <rdzzl> yea got it now
[22:47] <rdzzl> I guess I'll try a reboot
[22:47] <rdzzl> cheers for the help thus far!
[22:47] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl, good luck.
[22:48] <daftykins> full paths are indeed wise
[22:49] <rdzzl_> yeah, no. That didn't do it. I got an error as it booted up though
[22:50] <OerHeks> sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg ??
[22:50] <reisio> secret error?
[22:50] <rdzzl_> usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon
[22:50] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl, did you try "sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg" in command line.
[22:50] <rdzzl_> problemtype: crash
[22:50] <rdzzl_> CosmicNoise: yeah
[22:50] <bekks> OerHeks: Dont use sudo on graphical applications ;)
[22:51] <CosmicNoise> bekks, been doing it for years.
[22:51] <rdzzl_> gnome-keyring-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in __GI_getenv()   <--
[22:51] <bekks> CosmicNoise: Doesnt mean it is safe.
[22:52] <CosmicNoise> bekks, no, you're right.
[22:52] <CosmicNoise> bekks, but, for beginners... I'm sure it's easiest to have them open a GIU.
[22:52] <bekks> It may break things.
[22:52] <CosmicNoise> bekks, text editing in command line is quite daunting.
[22:52] <bekks> Use gksudo instead.
[22:52] <genii> !gksudo
[22:52] <daftykins> CosmicNoise: bad advice is bad advice, please don't suggest it again :)
[22:53] <CosmicNoise> daftykins, affirmative.
[22:53] <genii> Although I think the factoid is out of date now and should be gksu instead
[22:53] <reisio> rdzzl_: gnome keyring would be long after grub
[22:53] <daftykins> genii: yeah i think you're right, i also remember it was meant to be phased out entirely but i don't know for what version
[22:54] <rdzzl_> so what's next? would a clean reinstall of kubuntu (or another flavor) help?
[22:54] <rdzzl_>  xubuntu*
[22:54] <OerHeks> i thought one needs to edit /etc/default/grub and run update-grub afterwards
[22:54] <reisio> rdzzl_: doubt it
[22:55] <reisio> OerHeks: no need for a test
[22:55] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl_, what made you choose xubuntu?
[22:55] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl_, if you're just starting out in Linux, the usual suggestion is to stick with "straight" ubuntu.
[22:55] <rdzzl_> CosmicNoise: it said xubuntu is lightweight, fast and has access to decent packages
[22:55] <lotuspsychje> does that mean one can sudo vi grub.cfg safely?
[22:55] <reisio> your choice of Xubuntu likely has nothing to do with this issue
[22:56] <reisio> lotuspsychje: yes, you just can't rely on it being left alone by the system during updates
[22:56] <rdzzl_> CosmicNoise: I've used various versions through the years but never for long as I've always had issues that I was unable to solve
[22:56] <lotuspsychje> reisio: because of the usn security flaws?
[22:56] <rdzzl_> CosmicNoise: I don't mind the learning curve now either tbh, it's just a bit meh to have problems with the tires after just having got the car keys
[22:56] <reisio> lotuspsychje: pardon?
[22:57] <lotuspsychje> !usn | reisio
[22:57] <reisio> lotuspsychje: what about it?
[22:57] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl_, okay. Fair enough! No reason to do a clean install... your solution is just around the corner.
[22:58] <lotuspsychje> reisio: you say un-updated systems arent safe, and im wondering because of those security flaws
[22:58] <lawltoad> Hey all, I need advice on an embaressing problem. I've been programming for about 12 years but I've never managed to learn how to touch type. any avice?
[22:58] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl_, now, it could be related to UEFI problems. Do you know if you installed Windows in Legacy Mode or UEFI mode?
[22:58] <daftykins> lawltoad: this is OS support, so nope
[22:58] <rdzzl_> CosmicNoise: from hours of googling, it seemed to point towards UEFI problems
[22:58] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl_, depending on your machine, you can sometimes turn this off in your BIOS settings.
[22:58] <CosmicNoise> Switch to legacy mode if possible.
[22:58] <reisio> lotuspsychje: I didn't say anything about safeness..
[22:58] <rdzzl_> CosmicNoise: yeah but I can't access my bios in any way so I can't switch it :\
[22:58] <reisio> you got the right guy?
[22:58] <daftykins> lawltoad: get yourself a blank "das keyboard", that'll force you not to look :)
[22:59] <reisio> lawltoad: learn
[22:59] <daftykins> rdzzl_: there must be a way.
[22:59] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl_, there must be some access to your bios. Usuallyp ressing F2, or F12 or some other function key during bootup, depending on your motherboard.
[22:59] <lawltoad> thanks! sorry about the noise
[22:59] <rdzzl_> daftykins: I tried some weird lines into terminal that I can't remember, I tried a hard reset (remove battery + charger), F2 spam, F8spam, del-spam, nothing takes me there
[22:59] <lotuspsychje> reisio: nvm, i was just thinking with all recent exploits, even if one uses gksudo that doesnt mean he's safe right
[23:00] <ljetibo> Hey guys, I have a laptop here that can't display google through firefox but can ping it. I tried after googling http://paste.ubuntu.com/11950960/ but I don't know what any of that means
[23:00] <daftykins> rdzzl_: which machine is it?
[23:00] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl_, do you know what motherboard it is?
[23:00] <reisio> lawltoad: http://www.gnu.org/software/gtypist/ http://klavaro.sourceforge.net/ http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/tuxtype/
[23:00] <ljetibo> I have a feeling those numbers should be at least simmilat
[23:00] <reisio> lotuspsychje: sudo is about limiting root access, it's not some magic security thing
[23:00] <rdzzl_> it's a toshiba satellite c55-a-1mw (or so the sticker says)
[23:01] <reisio> lotuspsychje: has almost nothing to do with exploits
[23:01] <reisio> although on Ubuntu sudo is used... not the way it was meant to be, so :p
[23:01] <lotuspsychje> reisio: but root access can be intruded by other ways no?
[23:01] <reisio> lotuspsychje: other than?
[23:01] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl_, should be F2.
[23:02] <lotuspsychje> reisio: other then using sudo on GUI apps
[23:02] <reisio> lotuspsychje: sudo isn't an intrusion
[23:02] <CosmicNoise> rdzzl_, turn machine on, as soon as the first splash screen appears, start hitting F2 repeatedly.
[23:02] <rdzzl_> CosmicNoise: I'll give it another try
[23:02] <reisio> lotuspsychje: you can achieve root via other paths, though, sure
[23:02] <rdzzl_> so in bios I'll change to legacy mode and = gg ?
[23:02] <lotuspsychje> reisio: ok tnx
[23:02] <CosmicNoise> Legacy mode, yes, somewhere in the UEFI settings.
[23:02] <rdzzl_> i'll be back in a few then!
[23:06] <rdzzlllll> haha this is quite the slow way to operate, gotta reboot to pop back in for questions. good news: got into bios. Possible good news: can choose between UEFI and CSM mode. Whuttodo?
[23:07] <rdzzlllll> it's currently CSM but didn't wanna change it in case that means I can't boot linux afterwards. If that's a risk, i gotta make a bootable usb first
[23:08] <CosmicNoise> Well, it's always worth a try, and it doesn't take long to make a bootable usb.
[23:08] <CosmicNoise> Switch to UEFI mode. UEFI has been around a while now, so ubuntu should be able to handle it quite well by now.
[23:08] <CosmicNoise> Not the case a few years ago.
[23:09] <rdzzlllll> alright ill give it another go!
[23:10] <reisio> mmm, well, it's not going to handle it well if his grub.cfg is all setup for not using it :P
[23:10] <reisio> but it should probably work as well as it already was after he switches it back
[23:10] <pants11> test
[23:11] <reisio> fail
[23:11] <CosmicNoise> There's no risk involved, and he can use the live disk to repair/update grub after the change.
[23:11] <reisio> he just said he doesn't have one :p
[23:12] <CosmicNoise> He said if he needed one he would make one... I suggested he do that.
[23:12] <CosmicNoise> Hopefully he seen the message.
[23:12] <reisio> :p
[23:12] <rrrdzzl> well guess what. changing it put me straight into win 8.1. No grub, no nothing.
[23:12] <CosmicNoise> rrrdzzl, did you make that live disc?
[23:13] <rrrdzzl> I can. Should I go for something else than xubuntu?
[23:13] <rrrdzzl> got a decent dl speed here
[23:13] <reisio> rrrdzzl: unlikely to matter
[23:13] <rrrdzzl> suggestions? I'll do university work, attempt to become less of a noob at python. Those two things are my only criterias for it. It'd be nice if it works too
[23:13] <CosmicNoise> I would switch to UEFI, boot to the live disc, and run a grub repair.
[23:13] <reisio> criteria*
[23:13] <CosmicNoise> From there.
[23:14] <reisio> Xubuntu is fine
[23:14] <CosmicNoise> It will then set your grub file up to match the changing BIOS settings.s
[23:14] <rrrdzzl> xubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64 tis the one I got
[23:14] <rrrdzzl> iirc I had to disable safe boot and some stuff to be able to install xubuntu
[23:15] <CosmicNoise> As far as distros go, xubuntu is fantastic. No issue as far as you criteria are concerned.
[23:16] <rrrdzzl> should I try that wubi thing?
[23:16] <xangua> rrrdzzl: no
[23:16] <xangua> !wubi
[23:17] <rrrdzzl> well I got both the ubuntu and the xubuntu iso
[23:17] <CosmicNoise> rrrdzzl, so, just to confirm. You installed Win 8. You then booted a live disc of xubuntu and installed from there, and selected the option to install alongside windows?
[23:17] <rrrdzzl> CosmicNoise: affirmative. I've had win 8.1 for months already though before deciding to install xubuntu
[23:17] <CosmicNoise> And when you start up, you boot straight into ubuntu, with no "grub" list showing up at any point? Or the grub list shows up, but no Windows listed?
[23:18] <rrrdzzl> no
[23:18] <CosmicNoise> No? To which one?
[23:18] <CosmicNoise> No grub list, or no windows on the grub list?
[23:19] <rrrdzzl> when I had CSM instead of UEFI, it showed grub (but not windows in it), and let me boot linux. When I changed it back to UEFI it popped right into windows without grub showing up
[23:19] <pants11> hi guys, anyone know why I cannot chat in the main #oracle room?
[23:19] <daftykins> still sounds like you've been mixing modes to me
[23:19] <EriC^^> yeah, i concur
[23:19] <daftykins> installing one OS in legacy/EFI then the other in the opposite, breaking things
[23:19] <kostkon> !register | pants11
[23:19] <CosmicNoise> rrrdzzl, try mounting your windows partition and running "sudo os-prober". Paste us the output.
[23:19] <rrrdzzl> daftykins: how do I avoid that then?
[23:20] <EriC^^> pants11: it might be cause you need to register, ^
[23:20] <daftykins> i'd nuke the disk from orbit and start again
[23:20] <rrrdzzl> CosmicNoise: so reboot; enter bios; set to CSM, reboot, load xubuntu, mount windows, write command and paste output? O.o
[23:20] <daftykins> but truthfully windows 8.1 is rubbish and will become redundant in a few days
[23:20] <SuperFAM> hi, can i get some help?
[23:20] <daftykins> SuperFAM: not until you ask
[23:21] <CosmicNoise> rrrdzzl, Yep. Make sure it's installed first. Might not be on xubuntu, not sure.
[23:21] <EriC^^> rrrdzzl: reinstall ubuntu in uefi mode
[23:21] <rrrdzzl> is that a different .iso then or do I make a different choice while installing?
[23:22] <EriC^^> it depends on how the usb is booted, after you boot run ls -l /sys/firmware/efi to see if it loaded in uefi
[23:22] <EriC^^> if it exists then it did
[23:22] <CosmicNoise> rrrdzzl, no, just set the bios to UEFI and reinstall.
[23:22] <rrrdzzl> EriC^^: it gave me an error trying to run repair-boot stating I was in legacy mode
[23:22] <rrrdzzl> CosmicNoise: yeah thats what I tried to tell ya earlier; it doesn't let me boot from usb in UEFI (or at least didnt when I installed the first time around)
[23:22] <EriC^^> rrrdzzl: it would be easier to fresh install if you don't have anything on it yet
[23:22] <daftykins> !efi | rrrdzzl learn the difference here
[23:23] <rrrdzzl> oh okay
[23:24] <rrrdzzl> so I'll try a fresh install (if my laptop will allow booting from the usb this time around)
[23:24] <rrrdzzl> should i diskpart my linux partition first perhaps?
[23:25] <EriC^^> not really
[23:25] <EriC^^> all you need is to boot in uefi mode
[23:25] <rrrdzzl> so installing I'll go "install alongside x"
[23:26] <SuperFAM> daftykins: how do i disable the prompt where when i visit a page it asks if i want to install an ubuntu app?
[23:26] <EriC^^> well, don't choose to reinstall ubuntu, cause it'll wipe the whole drive
[23:26] <EriC^^> rrrdzzl: ^
[23:26] <EriC^^> rrrdzzl: i'd manually partition
[23:26] <rrrdzzl> EriC^^: I'll need it in a recipe of sorts to make sure I don't screw up
[23:27] <rrrdzzl> EriC^^: That I can do right now, from windows, while still able to chat: right?
[23:28] <rrrdzzl> I see the partition in diskmngr
[23:28] <EriC^^> no, it's in the installer
[23:28] <EriC^^> you can remove them from windows if you want
[23:28] <EriC^^> i think there's a bios-boot partition that's 1mb or so, and a ext4 one and a swap one
[23:29] <EriC^^> delete those, and in ubuntu's installer choose Something else when it asks about installing
[23:30] <EriC^^> and make 1 partition for "/" (ext4 mountpoint "/") and a swap partition, and click on the EFI partition that windows uses, and select it as the efi partition, then install
[23:31] <rrrdzzl> http://askubuntu.com/questions/343268/how-to-use-manual-partitioning-during-installation/343370#343370 good? EriC^^
[23:32] <EriC^^> no
[23:32] <EriC^^> O.o
[23:33] <rrrdzzl> [01:30] <EriC^^> and make 1 partition for "/" (ext4 mountpoint "/") and a swap partition, and click on the EFI partition that windows uses, and select it as the efi partition, then install <-- dont wanna mess that one up. the ext4 blabla part of it has me confused
[23:34] <EriC^^> you should have unallocated space, when you click on it and click on the "+" you select the size of the partition, and the type of the filesystem, which is ext4, and the mountpoint "/" (your main root)
[23:35] <EriC^^> so if you have 30gb unallocated space, and you want 6gb swap, create a 24gb "/" and then click on "+" again and create a partition with the type swap with the rest
[23:36] <EriC^^> and you should have an efi partition that's about 300-500mb, fat32 filesystem that windows uses, double click on it and select it as the efi partition type
[23:36] <EriC^^> so ubuntu knows to use that for it's bootloader
[23:37] <pants11> On oracle, I want to increase my transaction id count by 10,000 to 20,000. Do you guys know how to do this? Google doesn't seem to have much on that.
[23:38] <bekks> pants11: Ask Oracle?
[23:38] <pants11> yeah the room is quiet on this one...
[23:39] <Eurynomos> Hello.
[23:39] <pants11> hello eury
[23:46] <Aleksa> Hello! After installing Debian, I no longer can choose from GRUB menu
[23:46] <Aleksa> in fact, GRUB won't show up
[23:46] <Aleksa> even if I hold shift
[23:46] <Aleksa> it says grub loading
[23:46] <Aleksa> but nothing shows up
[23:46] <Aleksa> it loads an OS in regular time
[23:47] <ablest1980> whats grub again?
[23:47] <Aleksa> but the GRUB menu doesn't show
[23:47] <Aleksa> ablest1980, you mean, which version?
[23:47] <k1l> Aleksa: so setup the debian grub to suit your needs, or boot a live ubuntu and reinstall the ubuntu grub again if ubuntu is still installed
[23:48] <ablest1980> what youre talking about whats grub menu
[23:48] <Aleksa> k1l, I used ubuntu live usb to do it. I installed boot-repair in live mode. I ran it, it configured, even reinstalled grub. No success :(
[23:48] <Aleksa> Ubuntu loads
[23:48] <Aleksa> but I can't get GRUB menu to show
[23:48] <k1l> Aleksa: what OS are installed?
[23:48] <wileee> Aleksa, You save the bootinfo summary url?
[23:48] <Aleksa> I configured it to countdown 10 seconds (using grub-customizer)
[23:49] <ablest1980> aleksa i think they got #debian channel
[23:49] <Aleksa> k1l, Xubuntu and Frios (based on Deb Jessie)
[23:49] <Aleksa> wileee, no, I looked carefully, but I got no link. Maybe because I used advanced configs.
[23:50] <wileee> Aleksa, It pops up, but just curious here.
[23:52] <Aleksa> my settings are (using grub-customizer): default entry - ubuntu; checked show menu, look for other OS and boot default entry after 10 seconds.
[23:52] <Aleksa> in list configuration tab it loads a list and it recognizes Trios (the second OS)
[23:52] <Aleksa> how do I get GRUB to show up?
[23:53] <AbuDhar> hold shift
[23:53] <EriC^^> add a # before GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT in /etc/default/grub
[23:53] <AbuDhar> Aleksa,
[23:53] <AbuDhar> maybe? :D
[23:54] <EriC^^> then run sudo update-grub
[23:54] <ablest1980> http://askubuntu.com/questions/322666/linux-grub-doesnt-show-up
[23:54] <AbuDhar> remember to update grub after
[23:54] <Aleksa> AbuDhar, when I hold it, there's a message „GRUB loading”, but it doesn't show up as like it used to when shift being held
[23:55] <k1l> Aleksa: i would start with clear standard grub. and not that customized stuff.
[23:55] <k1l> Aleksa: and i would make sure the grub is installed from the ubuntu one.
[23:55] <Aleksa> k1l, ok, any advice on how to achieve that?
[23:58] <rrrrrrrddzz> yeah I got stuck
[23:58] <k1l> Aleksa: sudo grub-install /dev/sdX  and
[23:59] <rrrrrrrddzz> and its 2 in the night here. ' thanks for all your help but I don't have the time to carry on today. Perhaps I'll look into linux again in a bit. Hopefully it'll go smoother than this
[23:59] <k1l> sudo update-grub afterwards
[23:59] <AbuDhar> rrrrrrrddzz, stuck where?