| Noskcaj | If someone has the time to run me through some of iconview in glade that would be great | 07:27 |
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| ochosi | Noskcaj: what info/hints are you looking for exactly? | 10:19 |
| bluesabre | hey all | 11:06 |
| bluesabre | I'll return to my regularly scheduled usefulness tonight | 11:06 |
| bluesabre | :D | 11:06 |
| knome | hey sean | 11:07 |
| knome | you ought to look at the new features of the tracker | 11:08 |
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| ochosi | hey bluesabre | 11:20 |
| ochosi | hope you enjoyed your holidays | 11:20 |
| ochosi | knome, pleia2 (or anyone else in -team with proofreading skills): i just finished a brief artwork update on our LO integration work for 15.10 on x.org, would be great if you could review before i publish! thanks in advance | 12:03 |
| ochosi | http://xubuntu.org/?p=3269&preview=true | 12:03 |
| astraljava | I've been told I'm one of the nastiest nitpickers people have ever met, and they run their texts by me because of it. I could have a look in a few hours when I get home. | 12:05 |
| knome | ochosi, Xubuntu’s default “elementary-xfce”. -> Xubuntu's default icon theme elementary-xfce | 12:09 |
| ochosi | knome: sure, feel free to change that | 12:09 |
| knome | ochosi, and i guess generally try to be consistent with quotes or no quotes on theme names | 12:09 |
| knome | ochosi, then release the lock | 12:10 |
| ochosi | oh | 12:10 |
| ochosi | oops :) | 12:10 |
| astraljava | Ahh... knome is on it, so then I don't need to. :D | 12:10 |
| * ochosi releases lock | 12:10 | |
| * knome did edits, feel free to double-check | 12:15 | |
| knome | i changed the whole LO upstream sentence | 12:15 |
| knome | ochosi, what about something on how people can help? | 12:16 |
| knome | or who to contact | 12:16 |
| ochosi | yeah, could do | 12:16 |
| knome | not that i expect wonders, but still | 12:16 |
| knome | who knows | 12:16 |
| knome | also ping ping pleia2: we would likely prefer to have this on the news :) | 12:17 |
| knome | ochosi, we haven't used tags for projects before, do you want to start doing that now? | 12:17 |
| knome | ochosi, see the sidebar for the tags we have now | 12:17 |
| ochosi | yeah, dunno, i just felt i could add some, haven't put too much thought into the tags yet tbh | 12:18 |
| knome | ok | 12:18 |
| ochosi | i guess 15.10 is an ok tag | 12:18 |
| ochosi | not sure about the others | 12:18 |
| knome | i left Artwork | 12:18 |
| ochosi | alright | 12:18 |
| knome | we have tags like Marketing and QA | 12:18 |
| knome | so it might be ok to tag posts with "interest groups" | 12:18 |
| ochosi | right | 12:19 |
| knome | or in other words, subteams | 12:19 |
| knome | another option (that requires code change) is to create new taxonomies | 12:20 |
| knome | "release" and "team" | 12:20 |
| knome | then start tagging like mad men | 12:20 |
| knome | (pun intended) | 12:20 |
| knome | but to make it clear, the code change is pretty trivial | 12:22 |
| knome | but *shrug* | 12:22 |
| ochosi | yeah | 12:22 |
| * ochosi shrugs too | 12:23 | |
| ochosi | ok, added a brief contribute-section | 12:23 |
| knome | i'm somwhat dissatisfied with this now | 12:23 |
| ochosi | with what? | 12:23 |
| knome | the tag issue | 12:23 |
| ochosi | oh | 12:23 |
| knome | maybe i'll add at least the releases taxonomy | 12:23 |
| knome | with some extra features | 12:24 |
| knome | like release and EOL date fields | 12:24 |
| * ochosi poked the bear | 12:24 | |
| knome | could then even use that to create the list for supported releases on "Help & Support" | 12:24 |
| knome | nah, i've been thinking this for a long time | 12:24 |
| knome | +about | 12:24 |
| ochosi | right | 12:28 |
| ochosi | in that case i guess it's a good thing i tagged without thinking :D | 12:28 |
| knome | bah | 12:29 |
| knome | :P | 12:29 |
| knome | ok, got to pick up some groceries, bbl | 12:54 |
| ochosi | ttyl | 12:58 |
| knome | ochosi, poke? | 20:46 |
| pleia2 | today is trying to kill me, but I can probably find time tomorrow or tonight to look if still needed | 20:47 |
| knome | look at what? | 20:47 |
| knome | the article? | 20:47 |
| knome | i did that already, don't worry too much about that | 20:47 |
| pleia2 | ok | 20:47 |
| knome | pleia2, more goodness incoming: http://xstaging.lallinaho.fi/release/12-04/ | 20:48 |
| pleia2 | reminds me, should remove utopic from docs.x.o | 20:48 |
| knome | basically moving releases from tags to a "release" taxonomy | 20:48 |
| knome | with custom fields | 20:48 |
| knome | we can even build the "supported releases" list with this information | 20:48 |
| pleia2 | tagging confounds me, good work | 20:48 |
| knome | so now we can use the tags for something else | 20:49 |
| knome | like | 20:49 |
| knome | this is what i do on my blog: | 20:49 |
| knome | all application names that are mentioned in the article -> tag | 20:49 |
| knome | all themes that are covered in the article -> tag | 20:49 |
| knome | also app names "Capitalized", themes "uncapitalized" | 20:50 |
| knome | http://open.knome.fi/?s= | 20:50 |
| knome | ^ makes most sense to me | 20:50 |
| pleia2 | ok :) | 20:51 |
| knome | but we can do whatever we want | 20:51 |
| knome | mixing in releases there was the bad idea | 20:51 |
| knome | but since we didn't have this custom taxonomy... | 20:52 |
| ochosi | evening all | 20:57 |
| * ochosi pokes knome back | 20:58 | |
| knome | ochosi, basically the url i posted to pleia | 20:58 |
| knome | +2 | 20:58 |
| ochosi | pleia2: yeah, dont worry, just wanted another set of eyes | 20:58 |
| ochosi | knome: nice! i like it | 20:58 |
| knome | also see sidebar | 20:59 |
| knome | widget just arrived | 20:59 |
| ochosi | you mean the "object(stdClass)#296 (9) { ["term_id"]=> string(2) "25" ["name"]=> ..." | 20:59 |
| ochosi | ? | 20:59 |
| ochosi | :) | 20:59 |
| knome | refrehs :P | 20:59 |
| knome | refresh too | 20:59 |
| ochosi | nice | 20:59 |
| knome | so we can dump in the release codename, release and eol dates, and of course, a description | 20:59 |
| ochosi | sometimes i'm wondering whether we should use the per-release animal logos more | 21:00 |
| knome | so we can do a quick overview of the release if we want | 21:00 |
| ochosi | sounds lovely | 21:00 |
| knome | ..and then have a list of all articles linked to that release | 21:00 |
| ochosi | yeah | 21:01 |
| ochosi | so basically collecting all info of a single release in one (dynamic) place would be great | 21:01 |
| ochosi | incl links to docs for that release etc | 21:01 |
| knome | that's pretty much what i'm doing | 21:01 |
| knome | right... | 21:01 |
| knome | that's a different question, but yeah, it's doable | 21:01 |
| ochosi | yeah, i know, that could be the next step | 21:02 |
| ochosi | but let's go with the tagging mechanism you're working on there | 21:02 |
| knome | heh | 21:02 |
| ochosi | ;)) | 21:02 |
| knome | well, as long as we name the release slugs in a standard way, we can resolve the docs link from there | 21:03 |
| knome | automatically, that is | 21:03 |
| knome | eg. the slug '15-04' can be easily converted to 'http://docs.xubuntu.org/1504/' | 21:04 |
| knome | do i need to tell you how to do that? (: | 21:04 |
| ochosi | what me? do i need to resolve the links now? | 21:04 |
| knome | hah. | 21:04 |
| * knome slaps ochosi | 21:05 | |
| ochosi | ouch | 21:06 |
| * ochosi bleeds when people stab him | 21:06 | |
| * ochosi feels pain when knome slaps him | 21:06 | |
| knome | well good, that's the goal :P | 21:06 |
| knome | better example for archives http://xstaging.lallinaho.fi/release/14-04/ | 21:06 |
| ochosi | nice | 21:07 |
| ochosi | yeah, that really makes sense to group our articles by release | 21:07 |
| knome | definitely | 21:07 |
| knome | we're doing that already | 21:07 |
| knome | just with tags | 21:07 |
| ochosi | (i mean the release-tagged ones at least) | 21:07 |
| knome | http://xubuntu.org/news/tag/14-04/ | 21:07 |
| knome | but that isn't even close | 21:08 |
| knome | http://xstaging.lallinaho.fi/release/14-04/ | 21:09 |
| knome | updated that with a description from wikipedia | 21:09 |
| knome | >:) | 21:09 |
| ochosi | :D | 21:10 |
| knome | i wonder if it would be better if the description was first | 21:10 |
| knome | opinion? | 21:10 |
| knome | maybe it was better the other way | 21:11 |
| ochosi | yeah | 21:12 |
| ochosi | well | 21:12 |
| ochosi | hmm | 21:12 |
| knome | heh | 21:12 |
| ochosi | to some extent both make sense | 21:12 |
| knome | now this feels too top-heavy | 21:12 |
| knome | or bottom | 21:13 |
| ochosi | but the EOL is really important for releases | 21:13 |
| knome | depending how you look at it | 21:13 |
| ochosi | yeah | 21:13 |
| knome | one thing i've been pondering is how to show the eol status | 21:13 |
| knome | eg. if it's EOL, should the date be in red? | 21:13 |
| knome | or appended with some notice? | 21:13 |
| knome | or both? | 21:13 |
| ochosi | yeah | 21:16 |
| knome | yeah to what? | 21:16 |
| ochosi | definitely should be highlighted | 21:16 |
| knome | stupid | 21:16 |
| knome | :P | 21:16 |
| ochosi | :) | 21:16 |
| ochosi | btw, any more comments on the LO article or can i pubish as is? | 21:16 |
| knome | pubish? | 21:16 |
| knome | HUH. | 21:16 |
| knome | PLEASE | 21:16 |
| ochosi | or publish | 21:16 |
| knome | no pubes on the website | 21:16 |
| ochosi | you decide | 21:16 |
| * knome checks quickly | 21:16 | |
| ochosi | after all, you're the fancy web lead | 21:17 |
| knome | oh, i'm now fancy? | 21:17 |
| ochosi | the web lead position is | 21:17 |
| ochosi | so you holding that position makes you fancy too, i guess | 21:17 |
| knome | i'm so flattered now, simon. | 21:18 |
| knome | anyway, i fixed a few pubish errors | 21:18 |
| ochosi | why am i not surprised? | 21:18 |
| knome | you're good to go now | 21:18 |
| ochosi | good good, i'm a go-er, ya know ;) | 21:19 |
| knome | yeah i do | 21:19 |
| knome | there's no doubt about it - your partner is pregnant | 21:19 |
| knome | heh @ wikipedia: | 21:20 |
| knome | There will also be a new version of Xubuntu "Core" starting from Xubuntu 15.10. Developers have speculated that it will fit in regular CDs.[citation needed] | 21:20 |
| knome | yeah... | 21:20 |
| knome | who has "speculated" with that? | 21:20 |
| knome | CONFESS! | 21:20 |
| ochosi | haha | 21:20 |
| ochosi | gotta love wikipedia | 21:20 |
| knome | now somebody will surely make a mention there that the developers do not care for their users because they only joke about their wikipedia edits | 21:21 |
| knome | especially that fancy web lead | 21:22 |
| ochosi | definitely | 21:22 |
| ochosi | and it's teh truth! | 21:22 |
| knome | citation: Pasi Lallinaho, Xubuntu Web Lead | 21:22 |
| knome | ^ obviously fake, we have no "Web Lead" | 21:22 |
| ochosi | who's that pasi guy? | 21:23 |
| knome | don't know | 21:23 |
| knome | but i've heard he's damn fancy | 21:23 |
| knome | and a go-er | 21:24 |
| knome | fwiw | 21:24 |
| ochosi | indeed, wears strange clothes, talks "the fancy talk" he himself invented and constantly references the pythons and m.a.numminen | 21:24 |
| knome | and sports a minimalist designer wallet, i've heard | 21:25 |
| knome | ochosi, i just checked our status tracker and saw you haven't scheduled our next meeting | 21:26 |
| knome | <: | 21:26 |
| ochosi | haha, yeah, had to publish that article first ;) | 21:26 |
| ochosi | but will do that now | 21:26 |
| knome | hard work, that | 21:26 |
| * ochosi schedules time for scheduling the next meeting | 21:26 | |
| knome | pubishing :P | 21:26 |
| ochosi | yeah, i hear they build houses just for that! | 21:27 |
| knome | hah | 21:27 |
| knome | anyway | 21:27 |
| knome | something else i need to figure out | 21:27 |
| knome | is how to separate articles on the blog better | 21:27 |
| knome | it looks clunky now | 21:27 |
| knome | the problem is | 21:27 |
| knome | i've never really sorted that problem | 21:27 |
| knome | except by only showing one article at a time | 21:27 |
| knome | maybe it just needs more space in between | 21:28 |
| ochosi | humm | 21:28 |
| ochosi | right now there's so little space in between | 21:28 |
| knome | yeah | 21:28 |
| ochosi | i mean basically almost no visible separation at all | 21:28 |
| knome | i have a mixed group of updates for the theme incoming | 21:28 |
| knome | some from way back | 21:28 |
| knome | so, meh | 21:28 |
| knome | need to pull the strings together | 21:28 |
| knome | maybe i need to do the other things first | 21:29 |
| knome | then the release stuff | 21:29 |
| knome | that's fortunately still relatively easily kept separate | 21:29 |
| ochosi | right, take your time | 21:29 |
| ochosi | i'll meanwhile figure out a good meeting time | 21:29 |
| knome | i will, i just hate this process | 21:29 |
| ochosi | brb | 21:29 |
| knome | lol | 21:29 |
| knome | have fun scheduling | 21:29 |
| knome | huh, ok, worst bunch of work done and stuff in the repository | 22:00 |
| bluesabre | good evening al | 22:30 |
| bluesabre | l | 22:30 |
| bluesabre | and al and all | 22:30 |
| ochosi | hey al! | 22:30 |
| bluesabre | :D | 22:30 |
| ochosi | nice of you to stop by | 22:30 |
| bluesabre | heya ochosi | 22:30 |
| ochosi | looking forward to the burndown looking more optimistic after tonight ;D | 22:30 |
| bluesabre | or tomorrow night | 22:31 |
| bluesabre | going to work on it tonight though | 22:31 |
| bluesabre | but not feeling too great | 22:31 |
| ochosi | oh | 22:31 |
| ochosi | sorry to hear | 22:32 |
| ochosi | first day at work after holidays is rarely fun though | 22:32 |
| bluesabre | a few days out, and plenty to do when I get back :) | 22:32 |
| ochosi | yeah | 22:33 |
| knome | hey bluesabre | 22:33 |
| bluesabre | hey knome | 22:33 |
| knome | ochosi, i think the burndown chart looks much better than a few days ago | 22:34 |
| knome | (pun intended and obvious) | 22:34 |
| bluesabre | xstatus is looking quite good | 22:34 |
| bluesabre | so does the burndown burn itself down as you complete tasks improving the actual burndown chart? :D | 22:35 |
| ochosi | knome: hehe, indeed | 22:36 |
| pleia2 | looks like only G+ updated so far with new article? | 23:27 |
| pleia2 | I'll do fb and twitter | 23:27 |
| knome | oh, ok | 23:27 |
| knome | :) | 23:27 |
| pleia2 | knome: or you can do twitter if you want | 23:28 |
| * pleia2 writes words for fb | 23:28 | |
| knome | can do that | 23:28 |
| knome | tweeted | 23:29 |
| pleia2 | ty | 23:29 |
| krytarik | slickymaster, knome: This fixes all the current targets of the docs: http://paste.openstack.org/show/tMcOyxWCYEhyXy5oULhz/ | 23:45 |
| knome | krytarik, erm, you sure that's done against the latest docs branch? | 23:47 |
| krytarik | Yep. | 23:48 |
| knome | oh pop | 23:48 |
| knome | *poop | 23:48 |
| knome | krytarik, please rediff | 23:49 |
| knome | krytarik, i just pushed your changes from last time | 23:50 |
| krytarik | Meh. | 23:50 |
| knome | well, you aren't willing to do MP's, so you'd better give us the diff in some other way we fancy it. | 23:52 |
| krytarik | knome: Thought you hadn't decided on that one yet though, and since it was all in a bunch... | 23:53 |
| knome | no, i just forgot to push it basically | 23:54 |
| krytarik | Alright then. | 23:54 |
| krytarik | Give me a min. | 23:55 |
| knome | MPs are nice because there's history and real commit log | 23:55 |
| knome | sure, i'm watching a dvd... | 23:55 |
| krytarik | lol | 23:55 |
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