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lordievaderGood morning.06:47
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Riddellhi claydoh10:33
Riddellhmm10:33
Riddellhi clivejo10:33
clivejohi Riddell10:33
Riddellclivejo: want to have a look at calligra or something just now?10:33
clivejoits a mess10:34
clivejoI need to start again10:34
Riddellclivejo: want me to start up an ec2 and we can look together?10:35
clivejosure10:35
* Riddell fires one up10:35
lordievader!tester Alpha2 images are available, it is time to test \o/10:40
ubottulordievader: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:40
lordievader!testers Alpha2 images are available, it is time to test \o/10:40
ubottulordievader: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:40
lordievaderAlpha2 images are available, it is time to test \o/ | !testers10:40
lordievader!testers | Alpha2 images are available, it is time to test \o/10:41
ubottuAlpha2 images are available, it is time to test \o/: testers is Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip, mparillo for information10:41
lordievaderThere we go ;)10:41
clivejoiso images?10:41
Riddellclivejo: ubuntu@ec2-50-16-51-174.compute-1.amazonaws.com10:42
lordievaderclivejo: Yes: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/343/builds10:42
Riddellclivejo: going to join?10:44
clivejoIm trying!!10:44
clivejostupid key file10:44
Riddellwhat's up?10:47
clivejowhats the switch to tell ssh to use a key file10:47
Riddell-i10:47
Riddellssh -i foo.pem ubuntu@ec2-50-16-51-174.compute-1.amazonaws.com10:48
clivejoLOL10:48
clivejoIm in10:50
Riddellyay10:50
Riddellclivejo: make a directory10:50
Riddellbranch the packaging https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/calligra10:52
Riddelland download the tar yes10:52
Riddelllovely10:53
* Riddell blogs http://jriddell.org/2015/07/28/akademy-a-coruna-photos/10:53
Riddellclivejo: you don't need current if you're getting packaging from bzr10:55
clivejodont I need the patches for kubuntu?10:55
clivejois bzr not the debian packaging?10:55
clivejothis is my problem, dont understand this bit10:56
Riddellbzr is kubuntu packaging10:57
clivejoRiddell: can you teach me!10:57
Riddellclivejo: it differs per package, we are moving everything into debian git and there are branches for kubuntu and branches for debian but...10:57
Riddellcalligra hasn't moved yet10:58
Riddellso it's still in bzr for kubuntu10:58
Riddellso grab the bzr10:58
Riddelland that includes the packaging and any patches10:58
clivejothis is new to me10:58
BluesKajHiyas all10:58
clivejonever used bzr10:58
lordievaderHey BluesKaj, available for Alpha2 testing?11:00
BluesKajHi lordievader yes I am , when do we start ?11:00
lordievaderBluesKaj: The images are available on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/343/builds11:01
Riddellclivejo: just copy and paste command from https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/calligra11:02
clivejocan you se the command at the prompt?11:02
Riddellclivejo: yes looks good11:04
clivejowhat path should I be in?11:04
clivejodo I need to create a debian folder first?11:04
Riddellclivejo: make a new directory I guess11:04
Riddellit'll create the debian folder and you copy it in11:04
Riddellclivejo: try now11:06
clivejowhat black magic did you do!11:06
clivejoRiddell: is that locale warning a problem?11:09
Riddellclivejo: my ec2 setup script also copies my bazaar config files which assume the machine has my ssh keys11:10
Riddellclivejo: nah that's just cos I use spanish11:10
clivejoso the patches are applied ok?11:10
Riddellclivejo: yep looking good11:11
Riddellclivejo: dch -i  to add a new changelog entry11:11
Riddellexport EDITOR=nano might help too11:11
clivejoRiddell: is that OK?11:14
Riddellclivejo: lovely11:14
mparillolordievader: I will start on 32-bit11:15
clivejogo for a debuild?11:15
lordievadermparillo: Good, I'm busy on 64bit.11:15
Riddellclivejo: go for it11:15
clivejohow many cores?11:15
Riddellclivejo: only 211:16
Riddell /proc/cpuinfo will know11:16
clivejoRiddell: is there an easy way to strip out the version requirements?11:17
Riddellclivejo:  /usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends11:18
Riddellsometimes works11:18
sgclarkhi, did anyone test vivid frameworks backports?11:19
clivejoRiddell: that is handy!11:21
Riddellclivejo: so time for coffee I guess11:23
clivejolunch time for me!11:23
clivejocan I push this to LP from the EC?11:23
Riddellclivejo: no you're need your ssh key which you can't put on the ec2 because then I'll steal your identity11:24
Riddellyou'll11:24
clivejocan you sign it?11:25
clivejoIll do this locally11:25
Riddellwhen we want to upload the package to launchpad PPA it can be signed with debian -r  and it'll do it remotely11:25
Riddelldebsign -r   rather11:25
clivejoso no point in doing it on my mchine?11:26
Riddellclivejo: you can do the bzr on your machine11:27
lordievaderHmm slideshow during the installation ain't translated, to where do I file the bug?11:28
Riddellclivejo: I just added you to ~kubuntu-packagers so you can commit directly from there11:28
lordievaderUbiquity?11:28
Riddelllordievader: ubuntu-slideshow I think11:28
Riddellclivejo: time for coffee11:28
clivejo0%11:28
clivejolot of coffee11:29
lordievaderRiddell: Check.11:29
* Riddell lunches11:30
* BluesKaj heads to the kitchen for 2nd java11:30
shadeslayerGah11:40
shadeslayerRiddell: what time is the thing11:40
BluesKajis there something wrong with the Wily alpha2 html source, received an error message saying the download was stopped by the network because it was taking too long 12:01
lordievaderZsynced here just fine, both 64bit and 32bit.12:02
BluesKajmy dsl speed isn't the greatest but I've not seen that error before12:02
BluesKajtrying the zsync instead of the html12:08
mparillo_BluesKaj: I successfully zsynced (kubuntu) and http downloaded (Win7). But my FIOS (FTTP) is generally much faster than any download site. Alas, I never got a good answer to my zsync for windows question12:08
BluesKajbut I've had alpha beta image downloads fail in the past 12:08
BluesKajhad to try one 3 times ...think the kubuntu server is at fault 12:09
BluesKajmparillo_, I'm in the boonies so i have a dsl 6mb connection which very reliable most of the time and the kubuntu server , wherever that is is not 12:11
lordievaderI've never had a problem with the Ubuntu servers.12:12
BluesKajI've had trouble with these image sdownloads in the past , several have failed12:12
BluesKajmaybe the browsers are to blame, maybe zsync is the best method for me, we''ll see12:19
lordievaderwget from the commandline/12:20
BluesKajwget can work ,but never tried it with ubuntu servers12:21
mparillo_I like zsync, especially when you can get three or more release candidates in a week.12:22
lordievaderIndeed12:22
BluesKajit's nice to have alternatives 12:24
mparillo_It is a shame there is no decent port of zsync for Windows, because during the work day, I can usually squeeze in some time to test installs on a VM under Win7, but I hate to keep downloading big images.12:25
Riddellshadeslayer: thing at 16:00 today12:31
soeeshadeslayer: can you jump to slack for a moment in a free time ?12:38
BluesKajdoesn't look like zsync gave me the whole file, the cli says the download is 100% , but it hasn't returned to the prompt yet, seems to be in limbo and the iso file is still  ".part" in ~/12:47
lordievaderZsync is probably still busy.12:48
BluesKajwish there was an indicator telling me it is, almost did ctl-c12:48
lordievaderBluesKaj: Check top.12:49
lordievaderOr if you want more information atop.12:49
BluesKajyeah ksysguard says zsync is still active , but there's only a bit of memory being used and no cpu 12:51
lordievaderHmm, well the good thing about zsync is you can just kill it and resume.12:52
BluesKajhow12:53
mparillo_I *think* the pause at the end of zsync is when it does its checksum thing.12:53
BluesKajit's been almost 10mins12:53
lordievadermparillo_: Probably, yes.12:54
lordievaderBluesKaj: Just kill it and run the same command (in the same cwd).12:54
mparillo_Oh, for me it is maybe a minute (guess)12:55
BluesKajhow to kill it without cancelling ?12:56
lordievaderWhat do you mean?12:57
BluesKajok , ctl-c then ran zsync again and it did the checksum, now I have the full file...kind of weird that it would just sit there for 10mins and do nothing12:59
lordievaderBluesKaj: Perhaps you triggered some bug.13:00
BluesKajdoubt it the checksum is fine13:00
soeesgclark: congrats for winning Akademy Award :)13:26
sgclarksoee: thanks!13:27
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu at Akademy | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | KF 5.12 Wily build status: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.12.0_wily.html | Plasma Mobile images http://kubuntu.plasma-mobile.org/ | congratulations to sgclark on Akademy Award
Riddellhttps://notes.kde.org/p/neon-akademy14:07
soee_shadeslayer: sory my connection crushed, back on slack14:11
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BluesKajalpha 2 has login problems on the default kernel , the recovery kernel boots to a desktop but it has time server problems that can't be changed in the time settings, enabling sddm in the VT/TTY takles the command but the greeter page doesn't load. I'm still on alpha1 on this partition.15:11
lordievaderHmm, that is too bad. I hope he can report a bug on that.15:27
lordievaderahoneybun_: Nice blog posts about the Akademy :)15:46
clivejoRiddell: this is what happened on my local install too, missing liblibkispsd.so.1415:47
sgclarkhttps://build.kde.org/view/QT/job/qt5%20v5.2.1%20kf5-minimum/PLATFORM=Linux,compiler=gcc/3/console15:48
sgclarkoops15:48
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Riddelllordievader: how's alpha going?17:36
lordievaderRiddell: Pretty good. Only had one report of trouble. See Blueskaj comment of some time ago.17:43
Riddellclivejo: how's packaging?17:44
lordievaderRiddell: Just to make sure, is it correct that I cannot yet mark things ready?17:45
Riddelllordievader: if they have enough tests done that you're happy to say they're ready then go ahead and tick them17:45
Riddellof course there may still be respins until thursday if some issue is found17:46
lordievaderOh no, I have a couple of tests I want to perform tommorow. But I do not see any option for marking them ready.17:46
Riddelllordievader: at the bottom of http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/343/builds do you see an Administration section with a couple of drop down boxes?17:48
Riddell-set_target_properties(libkispsd PROPERTIES                                                                               │····················17:48
Riddell+set_target_properties(kritapsd PROPERTIES                                                                                │····················17:48
Riddellclivejo: there you go it just got renamed from the clunky liblibkispsd to libkritapsd17:48
RiddellBluesKaj: what was your issue with testing alpha 2 candidates?17:49
lordievaderRiddell: No, I do not. Just the Canonical footer.17:49
Riddelllordievader: ok ping stgraber until he gives admin to you17:49
BluesKajRiddell,  the default nvidia driver was the problem (nouveau) , solved it by using the recovery kernel and installing the the recommended nvidia driver. the sddm greeter/login page wouldn't load using the default kernel. 17:51
Riddellmeh, nvidia, what a pain17:52
lordievaderBluesKaj: Have you reported a bug about that?17:52
BluesKajmy nvidia experience is better with nvidia than the ati-radeon 17:53
BluesKajoops repeating myself again17:53
BluesKajno I'm still busy setting up the system , desktop themes fonts colours etc17:54
BluesKajno bug reports yet17:54
lordievaderBluesKaj: Please do when you have the time. Also report your findings on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com17:55
BluesKajhad soem crashes so I'll check the logs before I report any bugs17:55
clivejoRiddell: do I fix that in the bzr archive too?17:59
Riddellclivejo: just fix it in the calligra build for now then we'll sync to bzr when we're happy17:59
clivejoRiddell: how do I find these?18:03
clivejoliblibglobal.so.14 is the next problem18:03
Riddellclivejo: I downloaded the current calligra into current/18:03
Riddellso you can grep through that to find where it was18:03
Riddellthen diff to the current stuff18:03
clivejoliblibglobal was the one I had problems with last time18:04
clivejoso liblibglogal.so.14 is now libkritaglobal.so.14 ?18:05
BluesKajwhy doesn't systemsettings have any effect on dolphin, is there no integration between plasma 4 and 5 at all ..I despise that disgusting pale green default colour that all the plasma 4 apps are forced to use18:06
Riddellsome settings are synced18:06
Riddelldunno which18:06
BluesKajshould have some sync/integration by now 18:07
santa_good evening doko, we are hitting now some extra issues because of non-kde libraries which got an abi break because of the libstdc++ abi break18:07
dokowhich are?18:07
santa_musicbrainz and openbabel18:08
santa_doko: libkcddb and kscd doesn't build, I presume they need a rebuilt musicbrainz, relevant part of one of one of the build logs: https://paste.kde.org/ppl6palpe18:09
santa_doko: + kalzium and libkface doesn't build. I presume they need a newer openbabel, relevant part of one of the build logs: https://paste.kde.org/pdhtcz7y618:10
santa_doko: status page of kde apps built with gcc 5 with full build logs here http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/kdenext_buildstatus_ubuntu-exp/ubuntu-exp_status_kdeapplications.html18:11
dokosanta_, looks promising18:16
dokosanta_, ok, I'll prepare these, but in another ppa which you can't yet use18:19
dokoI think this status is good enough. what about the kde4libs ftbfs?18:20
santa_doko: working on it, just missing optional symbols so far18:20
santa_we also need to check the other legacy kde 4 stuff such as kdepimlibs, but we are close to be somewhat finished with the tasks to be done before the gcc 5 switch18:22
santa_oh, and the 3rd party and extragear apps (amarok, subtitlecomposer, krecipes...), but that world is too heteregeneous so probably we will have to deal with that after switch18:25
lordievaderDid I miss anything?18:29
clivejoRiddell: are all those warnings safe to ignore?20:23
soeeclivejo: wanna join team on slack ? :)20:37
clivejosure, Im a great slacker!20:37
soeeclivejo: can you send me your email ?20:38
clivejoLOL what is it?!?20:38
soeeso i can invite you ?20:38
soee;)20:38
soeei wanna test it to communicate inside Kubuntu team and commnity users20:39
clivejooh slack.com?20:39
soeeyes20:39
clivejoLOL20:39
soeelordievader: did you test already alpha2 images ?20:41
soeethe main reasons i want to try slack is: if we allow other users to join they can track history on help channel so even when they left they can go back and see if they problem was solved20:43
soeealso if they join once there is some chance they stay for a lnger an maybe try to conribute :)20:43
lordievadersoee: Lots, yes. But if you have time to test please do!21:27

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