[06:47] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:33] <Riddell> hi claydoh
[10:33] <Riddell> hmm
[10:33] <Riddell> hi clivejo
[10:33] <clivejo> hi Riddell
[10:33] <Riddell> clivejo: want to have a look at calligra or something just now?
[10:34] <clivejo> its a mess
[10:34] <clivejo> I need to start again
[10:35] <Riddell> clivejo: want me to start up an ec2 and we can look together?
[10:35] <clivejo> sure
[10:35]  * Riddell fires one up
[10:40] <lordievader> !tester Alpha2 images are available, it is time to test \o/
[10:40] <lordievader> !testers Alpha2 images are available, it is time to test \o/
[10:40] <lordievader> Alpha2 images are available, it is time to test \o/ | !testers
[10:41] <lordievader> !testers | Alpha2 images are available, it is time to test \o/
[10:41] <lordievader> There we go ;)
[10:41] <clivejo> iso images?
[10:42] <Riddell> clivejo: ubuntu@ec2-50-16-51-174.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[10:42] <lordievader> clivejo: Yes: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/343/builds
[10:44] <Riddell> clivejo: going to join?
[10:44] <clivejo> Im trying!!
[10:44] <clivejo> stupid key file
[10:47] <Riddell> what's up?
[10:47] <clivejo> whats the switch to tell ssh to use a key file
[10:47] <Riddell> -i
[10:48] <Riddell> ssh -i foo.pem ubuntu@ec2-50-16-51-174.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[10:48] <clivejo> LOL
[10:50] <clivejo> Im in
[10:50] <Riddell> yay
[10:50] <Riddell> clivejo: make a directory
[10:52] <Riddell> branch the packaging https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/calligra
[10:52] <Riddell> and download the tar yes
[10:53] <Riddell> lovely
[10:53]  * Riddell blogs http://jriddell.org/2015/07/28/akademy-a-coruna-photos/
[10:55] <Riddell> clivejo: you don't need current if you're getting packaging from bzr
[10:55] <clivejo> dont I need the patches for kubuntu?
[10:55] <clivejo> is bzr not the debian packaging?
[10:56] <clivejo> this is my problem, dont understand this bit
[10:57] <Riddell> bzr is kubuntu packaging
[10:57] <clivejo> Riddell: can you teach me!
[10:57] <Riddell> clivejo: it differs per package, we are moving everything into debian git and there are branches for kubuntu and branches for debian but...
[10:58] <Riddell> calligra hasn't moved yet
[10:58] <Riddell> so it's still in bzr for kubuntu
[10:58] <Riddell> so grab the bzr
[10:58] <Riddell> and that includes the packaging and any patches
[10:58] <clivejo> this is new to me
[10:58] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:58] <clivejo> never used bzr
[11:00] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj, available for Alpha2 testing?
[11:00] <BluesKaj> Hi lordievader yes I am , when do we start ?
[11:01] <lordievader> BluesKaj: The images are available on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/343/builds
[11:02] <Riddell> clivejo: just copy and paste command from https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/calligra
[11:02] <clivejo> can you se the command at the prompt?
[11:04] <Riddell> clivejo: yes looks good
[11:04] <clivejo> what path should I be in?
[11:04] <clivejo> do I need to create a debian folder first?
[11:04] <Riddell> clivejo: make a new directory I guess
[11:04] <Riddell> it'll create the debian folder and you copy it in
[11:06] <Riddell> clivejo: try now
[11:06] <clivejo> what black magic did you do!
[11:09] <clivejo> Riddell: is that locale warning a problem?
[11:10] <Riddell> clivejo: my ec2 setup script also copies my bazaar config files which assume the machine has my ssh keys
[11:10] <Riddell> clivejo: nah that's just cos I use spanish
[11:10] <clivejo> so the patches are applied ok?
[11:11] <Riddell> clivejo: yep looking good
[11:11] <Riddell> clivejo: dch -i  to add a new changelog entry
[11:11] <Riddell> export EDITOR=nano might help too
[11:14] <clivejo> Riddell: is that OK?
[11:14] <Riddell> clivejo: lovely
[11:15] <mparillo> lordievader: I will start on 32-bit
[11:15] <clivejo> go for a debuild?
[11:15] <lordievader> mparillo: Good, I'm busy on 64bit.
[11:15] <Riddell> clivejo: go for it
[11:15] <clivejo> how many cores?
[11:16] <Riddell> clivejo: only 2
[11:16] <Riddell>  /proc/cpuinfo will know
[11:17] <clivejo> Riddell: is there an easy way to strip out the version requirements?
[11:18] <Riddell> clivejo:  /usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends
[11:18] <Riddell> sometimes works
[11:19] <sgclark> hi, did anyone test vivid frameworks backports?
[11:21] <clivejo> Riddell: that is handy!
[11:23] <Riddell> clivejo: so time for coffee I guess
[11:23] <clivejo> lunch time for me!
[11:23] <clivejo> can I push this to LP from the EC?
[11:24] <Riddell> clivejo: no you're need your ssh key which you can't put on the ec2 because then I'll steal your identity
[11:24] <Riddell> you'll
[11:25] <clivejo> can you sign it?
[11:25] <clivejo> Ill do this locally
[11:25] <Riddell> when we want to upload the package to launchpad PPA it can be signed with debian -r  and it'll do it remotely
[11:25] <Riddell> debsign -r   rather
[11:26] <clivejo> so no point in doing it on my mchine?
[11:27] <Riddell> clivejo: you can do the bzr on your machine
[11:28] <lordievader> Hmm slideshow during the installation ain't translated, to where do I file the bug?
[11:28] <Riddell> clivejo: I just added you to ~kubuntu-packagers so you can commit directly from there
[11:28] <lordievader> Ubiquity?
[11:28] <Riddell> lordievader: ubuntu-slideshow I think
[11:28] <Riddell> clivejo: time for coffee
[11:28] <clivejo> 0%
[11:29] <clivejo> lot of coffee
[11:29] <lordievader> Riddell: Check.
[11:30]  * Riddell lunches
[11:30]  * BluesKaj heads to the kitchen for 2nd java
[11:40] <shadeslayer> Gah
[11:40] <shadeslayer> Riddell: what time is the thing
[12:01] <BluesKaj> is there something wrong with the Wily alpha2 html source, received an error message saying the download was stopped by the network because it was taking too long 
[12:02] <lordievader> Zsynced here just fine, both 64bit and 32bit.
[12:02] <BluesKaj> my dsl speed isn't the greatest but I've not seen that error before
[12:08] <BluesKaj> trying the zsync instead of the html
[12:08] <mparillo_> BluesKaj: I successfully zsynced (kubuntu) and http downloaded (Win7). But my FIOS (FTTP) is generally much faster than any download site. Alas, I never got a good answer to my zsync for windows question
[12:08] <BluesKaj> but I've had alpha beta image downloads fail in the past 
[12:09] <BluesKaj> had to try one 3 times ...think the kubuntu server is at fault 
[12:11] <BluesKaj> mparillo_, I'm in the boonies so i have a dsl 6mb connection which very reliable most of the time and the kubuntu server , wherever that is is not 
[12:12] <lordievader> I've never had a problem with the Ubuntu servers.
[12:12] <BluesKaj> I've had trouble with these image sdownloads in the past , several have failed
[12:19] <BluesKaj> maybe the browsers are to blame, maybe zsync is the best method for me, we''ll see
[12:20] <lordievader> wget from the commandline/
[12:21] <BluesKaj> wget can work ,but never tried it with ubuntu servers
[12:22] <mparillo_> I like zsync, especially when you can get three or more release candidates in a week.
[12:22] <lordievader> Indeed
[12:24] <BluesKaj> it's nice to have alternatives 
[12:25] <mparillo_> It is a shame there is no decent port of zsync for Windows, because during the work day, I can usually squeeze in some time to test installs on a VM under Win7, but I hate to keep downloading big images.
[12:31] <Riddell> shadeslayer: thing at 16:00 today
[12:38] <soee> shadeslayer: can you jump to slack for a moment in a free time ?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> doesn't look like zsync gave me the whole file, the cli says the download is 100% , but it hasn't returned to the prompt yet, seems to be in limbo and the iso file is still  ".part" in ~/
[12:48] <lordievader> Zsync is probably still busy.
[12:48] <BluesKaj> wish there was an indicator telling me it is, almost did ctl-c
[12:49] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Check top.
[12:49] <lordievader> Or if you want more information atop.
[12:51] <BluesKaj> yeah ksysguard says zsync is still active , but there's only a bit of memory being used and no cpu 
[12:52] <lordievader> Hmm, well the good thing about zsync is you can just kill it and resume.
[12:53] <BluesKaj> how
[12:53] <mparillo_> I *think* the pause at the end of zsync is when it does its checksum thing.
[12:53] <BluesKaj> it's been almost 10mins
[12:54] <lordievader> mparillo_: Probably, yes.
[12:54] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Just kill it and run the same command (in the same cwd).
[12:55] <mparillo_> Oh, for me it is maybe a minute (guess)
[12:56] <BluesKaj> how to kill it without cancelling ?
[12:57] <lordievader> What do you mean?
[12:59] <BluesKaj> ok , ctl-c then ran zsync again and it did the checksum, now I have the full file...kind of weird that it would just sit there for 10mins and do nothing
[13:00] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Perhaps you triggered some bug.
[13:00] <BluesKaj> doubt it the checksum is fine
[13:26] <soee> sgclark: congrats for winning Akademy Award :)
[13:27] <sgclark> soee: thanks!
[14:07] <Riddell> https://notes.kde.org/p/neon-akademy
[14:11] <soee_> shadeslayer: sory my connection crushed, back on slack
[15:11] <BluesKaj> alpha 2 has login problems on the default kernel , the recovery kernel boots to a desktop but it has time server problems that can't be changed in the time settings, enabling sddm in the VT/TTY takles the command but the greeter page doesn't load. I'm still on alpha1 on this partition.
[15:27] <lordievader> Hmm, that is too bad. I hope he can report a bug on that.
[15:46] <lordievader> ahoneybun_: Nice blog posts about the Akademy :)
[15:47] <clivejo> Riddell: this is what happened on my local install too, missing liblibkispsd.so.14
[15:48] <sgclark> https://build.kde.org/view/QT/job/qt5%20v5.2.1%20kf5-minimum/PLATFORM=Linux,compiler=gcc/3/console
[15:48] <sgclark> oops
[17:36] <Riddell> lordievader: how's alpha going?
[17:43] <lordievader> Riddell: Pretty good. Only had one report of trouble. See Blueskaj comment of some time ago.
[17:44] <Riddell> clivejo: how's packaging?
[17:45] <lordievader> Riddell: Just to make sure, is it correct that I cannot yet mark things ready?
[17:45] <Riddell> lordievader: if they have enough tests done that you're happy to say they're ready then go ahead and tick them
[17:46] <Riddell> of course there may still be respins until thursday if some issue is found
[17:46] <lordievader> Oh no, I have a couple of tests I want to perform tommorow. But I do not see any option for marking them ready.
[17:48] <Riddell> lordievader: at the bottom of http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/343/builds do you see an Administration section with a couple of drop down boxes?
[17:48] <Riddell> -set_target_properties(libkispsd PROPERTIES                                                                               │····················
[17:48] <Riddell> +set_target_properties(kritapsd PROPERTIES                                                                                │····················
[17:48] <Riddell> clivejo: there you go it just got renamed from the clunky liblibkispsd to libkritapsd
[17:49] <Riddell> BluesKaj: what was your issue with testing alpha 2 candidates?
[17:49] <lordievader> Riddell: No, I do not. Just the Canonical footer.
[17:49] <Riddell> lordievader: ok ping stgraber until he gives admin to you
[17:51] <BluesKaj> Riddell,  the default nvidia driver was the problem (nouveau) , solved it by using the recovery kernel and installing the the recommended nvidia driver. the sddm greeter/login page wouldn't load using the default kernel. 
[17:52] <Riddell> meh, nvidia, what a pain
[17:52] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Have you reported a bug about that?
[17:53] <BluesKaj> my nvidia experience is better with nvidia than the ati-radeon 
[17:53] <BluesKaj> oops repeating myself again
[17:54] <BluesKaj> no I'm still busy setting up the system , desktop themes fonts colours etc
[17:54] <BluesKaj> no bug reports yet
[17:55] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Please do when you have the time. Also report your findings on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com
[17:55] <BluesKaj> had soem crashes so I'll check the logs before I report any bugs
[17:59] <clivejo> Riddell: do I fix that in the bzr archive too?
[17:59] <Riddell> clivejo: just fix it in the calligra build for now then we'll sync to bzr when we're happy
[18:03] <clivejo> Riddell: how do I find these?
[18:03] <clivejo> liblibglobal.so.14 is the next problem
[18:03] <Riddell> clivejo: I downloaded the current calligra into current/
[18:03] <Riddell> so you can grep through that to find where it was
[18:03] <Riddell> then diff to the current stuff
[18:04] <clivejo> liblibglobal was the one I had problems with last time
[18:05] <clivejo> so liblibglogal.so.14 is now libkritaglobal.so.14 ?
[18:06] <BluesKaj> why doesn't systemsettings have any effect on dolphin, is there no integration between plasma 4 and 5 at all ..I despise that disgusting pale green default colour that all the plasma 4 apps are forced to use
[18:06] <Riddell> some settings are synced
[18:06] <Riddell> dunno which
[18:07] <BluesKaj> should have some sync/integration by now 
[18:07] <santa_> good evening doko, we are hitting now some extra issues because of non-kde libraries which got an abi break because of the libstdc++ abi break
[18:07] <doko> which are?
[18:08] <santa_> musicbrainz and openbabel
[18:09] <santa_> doko: libkcddb and kscd doesn't build, I presume they need a rebuilt musicbrainz, relevant part of one of one of the build logs: https://paste.kde.org/ppl6palpe
[18:10] <santa_> doko: + kalzium and libkface doesn't build. I presume they need a newer openbabel, relevant part of one of the build logs: https://paste.kde.org/pdhtcz7y6
[18:11] <santa_> doko: status page of kde apps built with gcc 5 with full build logs here http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/kdenext_buildstatus_ubuntu-exp/ubuntu-exp_status_kdeapplications.html
[18:16] <doko> santa_, looks promising
[18:19] <doko> santa_, ok, I'll prepare these, but in another ppa which you can't yet use
[18:20] <doko> I think this status is good enough. what about the kde4libs ftbfs?
[18:20] <santa_> doko: working on it, just missing optional symbols so far
[18:22] <santa_> we also need to check the other legacy kde 4 stuff such as kdepimlibs, but we are close to be somewhat finished with the tasks to be done before the gcc 5 switch
[18:25] <santa_> oh, and the 3rd party and extragear apps (amarok, subtitlecomposer, krecipes...), but that world is too heteregeneous so probably we will have to deal with that after switch
[18:29] <lordievader> Did I miss anything?
[20:23] <clivejo> Riddell: are all those warnings safe to ignore?
[20:37] <soee> clivejo: wanna join team on slack ? :)
[20:37] <clivejo> sure, Im a great slacker!
[20:38] <soee> clivejo: can you send me your email ?
[20:38] <clivejo> LOL what is it?!?
[20:38] <soee> so i can invite you ?
[20:38] <soee> ;)
[20:39] <soee> i wanna test it to communicate inside Kubuntu team and commnity users
[20:39] <clivejo> oh slack.com?
[20:39] <soee> yes
[20:39] <clivejo> LOL
[20:41] <soee> lordievader: did you test already alpha2 images ?
[20:43] <soee> the main reasons i want to try slack is: if we allow other users to join they can track history on help channel so even when they left they can go back and see if they problem was solved
[20:43] <soee> also if they join once there is some chance they stay for a lnger an maybe try to conribute :)
[21:27] <lordievader> soee: Lots, yes. But if you have time to test please do!