[06:47] Good morning. === turgay_ is now known as turgay [10:33] hi claydoh [10:33] hmm [10:33] hi clivejo [10:33] hi Riddell [10:33] clivejo: want to have a look at calligra or something just now? [10:34] its a mess [10:34] I need to start again [10:35] clivejo: want me to start up an ec2 and we can look together? [10:35] sure [10:35] * Riddell fires one up [10:40] !tester Alpha2 images are available, it is time to test \o/ [10:40] lordievader: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [10:40] !testers Alpha2 images are available, it is time to test \o/ [10:40] lordievader: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [10:40] Alpha2 images are available, it is time to test \o/ | !testers [10:41] !testers | Alpha2 images are available, it is time to test \o/ [10:41] Alpha2 images are available, it is time to test \o/: testers is Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip, mparillo for information [10:41] There we go ;) [10:41] iso images? [10:42] clivejo: ubuntu@ec2-50-16-51-174.compute-1.amazonaws.com [10:42] clivejo: Yes: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/343/builds [10:44] clivejo: going to join? [10:44] Im trying!! [10:44] stupid key file [10:47] what's up? [10:47] whats the switch to tell ssh to use a key file [10:47] -i [10:48] ssh -i foo.pem ubuntu@ec2-50-16-51-174.compute-1.amazonaws.com [10:48] LOL [10:50] Im in [10:50] yay [10:50] clivejo: make a directory [10:52] branch the packaging https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/calligra [10:52] and download the tar yes [10:53] lovely [10:53] * Riddell blogs http://jriddell.org/2015/07/28/akademy-a-coruna-photos/ [10:55] clivejo: you don't need current if you're getting packaging from bzr [10:55] dont I need the patches for kubuntu? [10:55] is bzr not the debian packaging? [10:56] this is my problem, dont understand this bit [10:57] bzr is kubuntu packaging [10:57] Riddell: can you teach me! [10:57] clivejo: it differs per package, we are moving everything into debian git and there are branches for kubuntu and branches for debian but... [10:58] calligra hasn't moved yet [10:58] so it's still in bzr for kubuntu [10:58] so grab the bzr [10:58] and that includes the packaging and any patches [10:58] this is new to me [10:58] Hiyas all [10:58] never used bzr [11:00] Hey BluesKaj, available for Alpha2 testing? [11:00] Hi lordievader yes I am , when do we start ? [11:01] BluesKaj: The images are available on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/343/builds [11:02] clivejo: just copy and paste command from https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/calligra [11:02] can you se the command at the prompt? [11:04] clivejo: yes looks good [11:04] what path should I be in? [11:04] do I need to create a debian folder first? [11:04] clivejo: make a new directory I guess [11:04] it'll create the debian folder and you copy it in [11:06] clivejo: try now [11:06] what black magic did you do! [11:09] Riddell: is that locale warning a problem? [11:10] clivejo: my ec2 setup script also copies my bazaar config files which assume the machine has my ssh keys [11:10] clivejo: nah that's just cos I use spanish [11:10] so the patches are applied ok? [11:11] clivejo: yep looking good [11:11] clivejo: dch -i to add a new changelog entry [11:11] export EDITOR=nano might help too [11:14] Riddell: is that OK? [11:14] clivejo: lovely [11:15] lordievader: I will start on 32-bit [11:15] go for a debuild? [11:15] mparillo: Good, I'm busy on 64bit. [11:15] clivejo: go for it [11:15] how many cores? [11:16] clivejo: only 2 [11:16] /proc/cpuinfo will know [11:17] Riddell: is there an easy way to strip out the version requirements? [11:18] clivejo: /usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends [11:18] sometimes works [11:19] hi, did anyone test vivid frameworks backports? [11:21] Riddell: that is handy! [11:23] clivejo: so time for coffee I guess [11:23] lunch time for me! [11:23] can I push this to LP from the EC? [11:24] clivejo: no you're need your ssh key which you can't put on the ec2 because then I'll steal your identity [11:24] you'll [11:25] can you sign it? [11:25] Ill do this locally [11:25] when we want to upload the package to launchpad PPA it can be signed with debian -r and it'll do it remotely [11:25] debsign -r rather [11:26] so no point in doing it on my mchine? [11:27] clivejo: you can do the bzr on your machine [11:28] Hmm slideshow during the installation ain't translated, to where do I file the bug? [11:28] clivejo: I just added you to ~kubuntu-packagers so you can commit directly from there [11:28] Ubiquity? [11:28] lordievader: ubuntu-slideshow I think [11:28] clivejo: time for coffee [11:28] 0% [11:29] lot of coffee [11:29] Riddell: Check. [11:30] * Riddell lunches [11:30] * BluesKaj heads to the kitchen for 2nd java [11:40] Gah [11:40] Riddell: what time is the thing [12:01] is there something wrong with the Wily alpha2 html source, received an error message saying the download was stopped by the network because it was taking too long [12:02] Zsynced here just fine, both 64bit and 32bit. [12:02] my dsl speed isn't the greatest but I've not seen that error before [12:08] trying the zsync instead of the html [12:08] BluesKaj: I successfully zsynced (kubuntu) and http downloaded (Win7). But my FIOS (FTTP) is generally much faster than any download site. Alas, I never got a good answer to my zsync for windows question [12:08] but I've had alpha beta image downloads fail in the past [12:09] had to try one 3 times ...think the kubuntu server is at fault [12:11] mparillo_, I'm in the boonies so i have a dsl 6mb connection which very reliable most of the time and the kubuntu server , wherever that is is not [12:12] I've never had a problem with the Ubuntu servers. [12:12] I've had trouble with these image sdownloads in the past , several have failed [12:19] maybe the browsers are to blame, maybe zsync is the best method for me, we''ll see [12:20] wget from the commandline/ [12:21] wget can work ,but never tried it with ubuntu servers [12:22] I like zsync, especially when you can get three or more release candidates in a week. [12:22] Indeed [12:24] it's nice to have alternatives [12:25] It is a shame there is no decent port of zsync for Windows, because during the work day, I can usually squeeze in some time to test installs on a VM under Win7, but I hate to keep downloading big images. [12:31] shadeslayer: thing at 16:00 today [12:38] shadeslayer: can you jump to slack for a moment in a free time ? [12:47] doesn't look like zsync gave me the whole file, the cli says the download is 100% , but it hasn't returned to the prompt yet, seems to be in limbo and the iso file is still ".part" in ~/ [12:48] Zsync is probably still busy. [12:48] wish there was an indicator telling me it is, almost did ctl-c [12:49] BluesKaj: Check top. [12:49] Or if you want more information atop. [12:51] yeah ksysguard says zsync is still active , but there's only a bit of memory being used and no cpu [12:52] Hmm, well the good thing about zsync is you can just kill it and resume. [12:53] how [12:53] I *think* the pause at the end of zsync is when it does its checksum thing. [12:53] it's been almost 10mins [12:54] mparillo_: Probably, yes. [12:54] BluesKaj: Just kill it and run the same command (in the same cwd). [12:55] Oh, for me it is maybe a minute (guess) [12:56] how to kill it without cancelling ? [12:57] What do you mean? [12:59] ok , ctl-c then ran zsync again and it did the checksum, now I have the full file...kind of weird that it would just sit there for 10mins and do nothing [13:00] BluesKaj: Perhaps you triggered some bug. [13:00] doubt it the checksum is fine [13:26] sgclark: congrats for winning Akademy Award :) [13:27] soee: thanks! === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu at Akademy | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | KF 5.12 Wily build status: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.12.0_wily.html | Plasma Mobile images http://kubuntu.plasma-mobile.org/ | congratulations to sgclark on Akademy Award [14:07] https://notes.kde.org/p/neon-akademy [14:11] shadeslayer: sory my connection crushed, back on slack === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward [15:11] alpha 2 has login problems on the default kernel , the recovery kernel boots to a desktop but it has time server problems that can't be changed in the time settings, enabling sddm in the VT/TTY takles the command but the greeter page doesn't load. I'm still on alpha1 on this partition. [15:27] Hmm, that is too bad. I hope he can report a bug on that. [15:46] ahoneybun_: Nice blog posts about the Akademy :) [15:47] Riddell: this is what happened on my local install too, missing liblibkispsd.so.14 [15:48] https://build.kde.org/view/QT/job/qt5%20v5.2.1%20kf5-minimum/PLATFORM=Linux,compiler=gcc/3/console [15:48] oops === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away [17:36] lordievader: how's alpha going? [17:43] Riddell: Pretty good. Only had one report of trouble. See Blueskaj comment of some time ago. [17:44] clivejo: how's packaging? [17:45] Riddell: Just to make sure, is it correct that I cannot yet mark things ready? [17:45] lordievader: if they have enough tests done that you're happy to say they're ready then go ahead and tick them [17:46] of course there may still be respins until thursday if some issue is found [17:46] Oh no, I have a couple of tests I want to perform tommorow. But I do not see any option for marking them ready. [17:48] lordievader: at the bottom of http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/343/builds do you see an Administration section with a couple of drop down boxes? [17:48] -set_target_properties(libkispsd PROPERTIES │···················· [17:48] +set_target_properties(kritapsd PROPERTIES │···················· [17:48] clivejo: there you go it just got renamed from the clunky liblibkispsd to libkritapsd [17:49] BluesKaj: what was your issue with testing alpha 2 candidates? [17:49] Riddell: No, I do not. Just the Canonical footer. [17:49] lordievader: ok ping stgraber until he gives admin to you [17:51] Riddell, the default nvidia driver was the problem (nouveau) , solved it by using the recovery kernel and installing the the recommended nvidia driver. the sddm greeter/login page wouldn't load using the default kernel. [17:52] meh, nvidia, what a pain [17:52] BluesKaj: Have you reported a bug about that? [17:53] my nvidia experience is better with nvidia than the ati-radeon [17:53] oops repeating myself again [17:54] no I'm still busy setting up the system , desktop themes fonts colours etc [17:54] no bug reports yet [17:55] BluesKaj: Please do when you have the time. Also report your findings on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com [17:55] had soem crashes so I'll check the logs before I report any bugs [17:59] Riddell: do I fix that in the bzr archive too? [17:59] clivejo: just fix it in the calligra build for now then we'll sync to bzr when we're happy [18:03] Riddell: how do I find these? [18:03] liblibglobal.so.14 is the next problem [18:03] clivejo: I downloaded the current calligra into current/ [18:03] so you can grep through that to find where it was [18:03] then diff to the current stuff [18:04] liblibglobal was the one I had problems with last time [18:05] so liblibglogal.so.14 is now libkritaglobal.so.14 ? [18:06] why doesn't systemsettings have any effect on dolphin, is there no integration between plasma 4 and 5 at all ..I despise that disgusting pale green default colour that all the plasma 4 apps are forced to use [18:06] some settings are synced [18:06] dunno which [18:07] should have some sync/integration by now [18:07] good evening doko, we are hitting now some extra issues because of non-kde libraries which got an abi break because of the libstdc++ abi break [18:07] which are? [18:08] musicbrainz and openbabel [18:09] doko: libkcddb and kscd doesn't build, I presume they need a rebuilt musicbrainz, relevant part of one of one of the build logs: https://paste.kde.org/ppl6palpe [18:10] doko: + kalzium and libkface doesn't build. I presume they need a newer openbabel, relevant part of one of the build logs: https://paste.kde.org/pdhtcz7y6 [18:11] doko: status page of kde apps built with gcc 5 with full build logs here http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/kdenext_buildstatus_ubuntu-exp/ubuntu-exp_status_kdeapplications.html [18:16] santa_, looks promising [18:19] santa_, ok, I'll prepare these, but in another ppa which you can't yet use [18:20] I think this status is good enough. what about the kde4libs ftbfs? [18:20] doko: working on it, just missing optional symbols so far [18:22] we also need to check the other legacy kde 4 stuff such as kdepimlibs, but we are close to be somewhat finished with the tasks to be done before the gcc 5 switch [18:25] oh, and the 3rd party and extragear apps (amarok, subtitlecomposer, krecipes...), but that world is too heteregeneous so probably we will have to deal with that after switch [18:29] Did I miss anything? [20:23] Riddell: are all those warnings safe to ignore? [20:37] clivejo: wanna join team on slack ? :) [20:37] sure, Im a great slacker! [20:38] clivejo: can you send me your email ? [20:38] LOL what is it?!? [20:38] so i can invite you ? [20:38] ;) [20:39] i wanna test it to communicate inside Kubuntu team and commnity users [20:39] oh slack.com? [20:39] yes [20:39] LOL [20:41] lordievader: did you test already alpha2 images ? [20:43] the main reasons i want to try slack is: if we allow other users to join they can track history on help channel so even when they left they can go back and see if they problem was solved [20:43] also if they join once there is some chance they stay for a lnger an maybe try to conribute :) [21:27] soee: Lots, yes. But if you have time to test please do!