| pitti | Good morning! | 03:33 |
|---|---|---|
| didrocks | good morning | 05:25 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks, ça va ? | 05:30 |
| didrocks | oh, pitti is back! I'm good thanks, how were your holidays? | 05:31 |
| pitti | didrocks: wonderful, thanks! quite exhausting to go over the Alps with so much luggage and a normal street (not Mountain) bike, but it was fun! | 05:32 |
| pitti | quite hot too, but we spent the afternoons on lakes :) | 05:32 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, I imagine that you didn't escape from the general hot weather around ;) | 05:33 |
| didrocks | did you visit any particular village, or you were more in the nature? | 05:33 |
| pitti | didrocks: no, mostly just enjoying the nature, good air, and sun | 05:35 |
| didrocks | excellent :) | 05:37 |
| pitti | very relaxing! | 05:37 |
| pitti | didrocks: how have you been? | 05:37 |
| didrocks | quite warm! but the temperature is better since this week-end, so it's easier to work now :) | 05:39 |
| pitti | yeah, here too | 05:50 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 06:03 |
| seb128 | oh, a pitti | 06:03 |
| seb128 | pitti, wb! did you have a good holidays? | 06:03 |
| pitti | ça va seb128 ! | 06:03 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, they were nice! quite exhausting and hot days while going over the Alps with too much luggage, but we made it :) | 06:03 |
| seb128 | great :-) | 06:03 |
| pitti | we cycled in the morning and spent the hot afternoons on lakes and in the shadow :) | 06:04 |
| pitti | seb128: how are you? | 06:04 |
| seb128 | I'm good thanks | 06:04 |
| seb128 | I could so with some hot here, it's cold and wet :-/ | 06:06 |
| pitti | I'm actually quite grateful; it had some rain yesterday after weeks of draught, and now it's ~ 20 C (sunny/cloudy) | 06:09 |
| RAOF | Hey, ho, pitti, seb128 and didrocks! | 06:32 |
| pitti | hey RAOF, how are you? | 06:33 |
| seb128 | hey RAOF | 06:33 |
| didrocks | hey hey RAOF! | 06:33 |
| RAOF | A bit tired! Back in Hobart today though :) | 06:33 |
| RAOF | It's a fair amount of effort to travel from Perth with Zoë :) | 06:35 |
| seb128 | pitti, how often are we supposed to have touch langpack updates in wily? | 07:11 |
| pitti | seb128: I enabled the cronjob now | 07:11 |
| pitti | seb128: I'll trigger a manual build as soon as we get the priority fixed | 07:11 |
| seb128 | pitti, dpm fixed the launchpad template yesterday, unsure how often his page is refreshed | 07:11 |
| pitti | seb128: i. e. "weekly" | 07:11 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks for replying on that bug ;-) | 07:12 |
| pitti | seb128: thanks for pointing that out; it was a good opportunity to fix some langpack-o-matic issues | 07:12 |
| pitti | wrt. handling the stats parsing | 07:12 |
| seb128 | right | 07:12 |
| seb128 | yw! | 07:12 |
| RAOF | Hm. Hey, is desrt on holiday at the moment? | 07:16 |
| didrocks | RAOF: yes, for a couple of weeks | 07:18 |
| RAOF | Aha. | 07:18 |
| RAOF | That would explain why I haven't got any mail from him, then :) | 07:19 |
| didrocks | indeed :p | 07:19 |
| willcooke | goodly moreload | 07:56 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 07:58 |
| * TheMuso waves to all as he heads out. :) | 08:01 | |
| seb128 | TheMuso, night | 08:02 |
| Laney | hey hey | 08:03 |
| willcooke | cya TheMuso | 08:03 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, how are you today? | 08:03 |
| Laney | hey seb128, feeling tired for some reason | 08:05 |
| Laney | also my fingers are feeling the burn | 08:05 |
| seb128 | Laney, too much climbing? | 08:06 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke, morning Laney | 08:07 |
| didrocks | bye TheMuso | 08:08 |
| Laney | seb128: they put a new "wood" circuit in which has small holds | 08:08 |
| Laney | good to try some more hard stuff :P | 08:09 |
| Laney | how's it going? | 08:09 |
| Laney | hey didrocks | 08:09 |
| Laney | what's new | 08:09 |
| Laney | ? | 08:09 |
| didrocks | Laney: fighting with qml layout system, otherwise, good! yourself? | 08:12 |
| Laney | haha, that is definitely not new | 08:12 |
| seb128 | kudos to the sdk team which seems to be responsive to didrocks' questions | 08:13 |
| didrocks | indeed ;) | 08:14 |
| Laney | seb128: thx for that bug link | 08:17 |
| Laney | I should have subscribed ... | 08:17 |
| Laney | can't really remember what it's about now | 08:17 |
| seb128 | Laney, yw | 08:20 |
| didrocks | seb128: and trading that against bugs (2 since yesterday ;)) | 08:28 |
| seb128 | didrocks, upstream Qt or our uitk? | 08:30 |
| didrocks | seb128: it seems to be a uitk component at least | 08:31 |
| didrocks | the one from yesterday was clearly u1db-qt | 08:31 |
| didrocks | this one is either the sizing model of Qt which has changed or the uitk button implementation | 08:31 |
| seb128 | didrocks, what's the issue with the example you just pastebinet? | 08:32 |
| seb128 | pastebined | 08:32 |
| seb128 | oh, I see | 08:32 |
| didrocks | yeah | 08:33 |
| didrocks | look at the screenshots as well | 08:33 |
| didrocks | http://people.canonical.com/~didrocks/qmltest/withouticons.png (all good) | 08:33 |
| didrocks | http://people.canonical.com/~didrocks/qmltest/withicons.png | 08:33 |
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| willcooke | hrm | 08:54 |
| willcooke | that's twice I've been disconnected this morning | 08:54 |
| Laney | ISP? | 08:56 |
| Laney | or Ubuntu side | 08:56 |
| willcooke | ISP I reckon | 08:56 |
| willcooke | In the last couple of months we've got FTTC and so everyone is upgrading | 08:57 |
| willcooke | I guess they pull the wrong cable out now and again | 08:57 |
| Laney | how much does that work out to? | 08:57 |
| Laney | is it capped? | 08:57 |
| * Laney could be tempted away from virgin | 08:57 | |
| willcooke | It's about 35 quid a month, uncapped but "managed" (in reality I don't notice anything change speed) | 08:59 |
| willcooke | It's mostly reliable | 08:59 |
| willcooke | +1 for Plusnet - you can get a fixed IP for a fiver one-off charge | 08:59 |
| willcooke | A&A are of course better, but more expensive | 08:59 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: run speedof.me :) | 09:00 |
| willcooke | ~ 40 Mb | 09:02 |
| Laney | Yeah A&A gets expensive fast when you add daytime capacity on top of FTTC | 09:04 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: http://speedof.me/show.php?img=150727190138-94937.png | 09:04 |
| Laney | 56 | 09:05 |
| Laney | this is because I'm on crappy powerline | 09:05 |
| * Laney wants to put the modem up here | 09:05 | |
| willcooke | qengho, chrisccoulson - sverdy is seeing "thanks for running the daily build" of Thunderbird this morning on a Trusty machine - is that normal? | 09:20 |
| willcooke | tkamppeter, you're up very early?! | 09:21 |
| chrisccoulson | willcooke, see mozilla bug 1186390 | 09:21 |
| ubot5 | Mozilla bug 1186390 in Thunderbird ""Welcome to Daily!" message in thunderbird 31.8.0" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1186390 | 09:21 |
| willcooke | chrisccoulson, lulz - thank you | 09:21 |
| chrisccoulson | There's not much we can do about that - it needs fixing on the server side | 09:21 |
| * willcooke makes a note to look at bugzilla first | 09:22 | |
| willcooke | nw, thanks chrisccoulson | 09:22 |
| willcooke | happyaron, ping | 09:39 |
| willcooke | happyaron, actually, unping - I'll email you | 09:39 |
| happyaron | willcooke: pong | 09:40 |
| happyaron | :) | 09:40 |
| willcooke | :D | 09:40 |
| willcooke | mpt, thanks for the info | 09:44 |
| Laney | willcooke is being very mysterious | 09:44 |
| willcooke | I'm mixing up my communication mechanisms to maximum effect | 09:47 |
| willcooke | laney, I will now email you... | 09:47 |
| seb128 | what's going on there?! | 09:48 |
| willcooke | no email for sebv | 09:48 |
| willcooke | seb | 09:48 |
| willcooke | and didrocks, you get real snail mail | 09:48 |
| seb128 | I'm going to start following you on twitter then | 09:48 |
| willcooke | haha :D | 09:48 |
| seb128 | :-) | 09:48 |
| Laney | now I understand why you wanted to keep that information quiet | 09:50 |
| * Laney employs it to maximum gain | 09:51 | |
| Laney | (brb, casino) | 09:51 |
| willcooke | XD | 09:55 |
| mzanetti | seb128, weird... building gsettings-qt complains that it can't find gsettings-qt-dev... https://launchpadlibrarian.net/212921867/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.gsettings-qt_0.1%2B15.04.20150728-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz | 11:07 |
| mzanetti | have you seen that before? | 11:07 |
| chrisccoulson | ricotz, want me to take firefox 40.0b8? | 11:12 |
| ricotz | chrisccoulson, it is still on my list | 11:14 |
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| didrocks | willcooke: what what, I'm just back from running and you offer french lunch? :) | 11:19 |
| ricotz | chrisccoulson, so I presume I will upload it with the next 3-4 hours | 11:19 |
| chrisccoulson | ricotz, ok, I'll let you do it :) | 11:20 |
| seb128 | mzanetti, no I didn't | 11:46 |
| mzanetti | seb128, figured it by now, so, nvm | 11:46 |
| seb128 | mzanetti, what was it? | 11:46 |
| mzanetti | a bug in the branch I'm trying to land | 11:47 |
| seb128 | k | 11:47 |
| davmor2 | seb128: if willcooke is down to snail mail I would recommend getting a pigeon coop instead of twitter | 11:54 |
| seb128 | that's an idea ;-) | 11:54 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| Sweet5hark1 | urgh. --disable-dependency-tracking seems to break "make && make check" ... | 12:10 |
| ogra_ | but it adds extra privacy to your build at least :P | 12:11 |
| Sweet5hark1 | ... lets see if "make; make -k check || true; make check" fares better ... | 12:11 |
| Sweet5hark1 | (kinda between a rock and a hard place: disable deps for performance/ressource usage, but then run tests twice instead. :/) | 12:13 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark1, btw unsure if you saw my ping on monday (or I didn't see you reply), did you contact the DMB about libreoffice uploads? | 12:13 |
| Sweet5hark1 | seb128: saw it, but was already in the weekend. not done yet -- should do this week. thanks for the ping. | 12:14 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark1, yw! thanks for following up on that ;-) | 12:15 |
| * Sweet5hark1 suspects though that now that I am packaging 20 different flavors of libreoffice from the same source seb128 understandably really does want to upload all those ... ;) | 12:16 | |
| seb128 | lol | 12:16 |
| Sweet5hark1 | I called this source package libreoffice-vanilla. Up next: libreoffice-chocolate and libreoffice-strawberry | 12:17 |
| * ogra_ wants -whipped-cream too ! | 12:17 | |
| Sweet5hark1 | ogra_: I tried that but the builders are too lean for that. | 12:18 |
| ogra_ | damn ! | 12:19 |
| willcooke | didrocks, snail mail on the way | 12:38 |
| seb128 | willcooke, how does a snail cross the channel? | 12:43 |
| didrocks | I guess eurostar | 12:43 |
| willcooke | LHR to CDG | 12:44 |
| Laney | fire it out of a cannon | 12:45 |
| didrocks | that could grill it as well though | 12:46 |
| Laney | perfect! | 12:47 |
| ChrisTownsend | Hey guys! I'm trying to run gedit in Xmir on Unity 8, but every time I try running it, it still looks for Mir. This happens even if I set GDK_BACKEND=x11. How is gedit figuring out it's running on a Mir platform? | 12:53 |
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| willcooke | attente_ might be able to help ^ | 12:54 |
| === attente_ is now known as attente | ||
| attente | ChrisTownsend: is DISPLAY set? | 12:55 |
| ChrisTownsend | attente: Yes | 12:55 |
| attente | ChrisTownsend: i've seen this problem before with wayland as well, where it basically defaults to wayland if the server is running even if GDK_BACKEND=x11 | 13:00 |
| attente | i'll look into it | 13:00 |
| ChrisTownsend | attente: Cool, thanks | 13:02 |
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| Laney | notification × 2 laptops, SMS, email | 15:21 |
| Laney | I think there's a meeting coming up ... | 15:21 |
| willcooke | Laney, did you get the fax I sent you too? | 15:21 |
| Laney | wait, I hear a horse galloping up the street | 15:21 |
| Laney | the telegram is here | 15:21 |
| willcooke | lol! | 15:21 |
| willcooke | It's time! | 15:30 |
| seb128 | ohohoh | 15:30 |
| willcooke | #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2015-07-28 | 15:30 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Jul 28 15:30:22 2015 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:30 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 15:30 |
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| willcooke | End of July already?!!??! | 15:30 |
| willcooke | Oh boy | 15:30 |
| qengho | Tempus fugit | 15:30 |
| willcooke | Roll call: attente, dgadomski, didrocks, fjkong, happyaron (out), laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, tkamppeter (out), themuso (out), robert_ancell (out) | 15:30 |
| didrocks | hey! | 15:30 |
| dgadomski | o/ | 15:30 |
| FJKong | ｈｅｙ | 15:30 |
| willcooke | Let's roll... | 15:31 |
| willcooke | #topic attente | 15:31 |
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| willcooke | How you doing attente? | 15:32 |
| attente | hi, short week, continued discussions and re-factoring gtk menu positioning code for the mir backend | 15:32 |
| willcooke | attente, eof? | 15:33 |
| attente | (eof) | 15:33 |
| willcooke | thanks! Let me know how you get on with that issue Chris mentioned earlier. | 15:34 |
| willcooke | I think I remember you talking about that issue before | 15:34 |
| willcooke | #topic dgadomski | 15:35 |
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| dgadomski | hi | 15:35 |
| dgadomski | I've been on vacation for the last couple of days so nothing to share this time | 15:35 |
| willcooke | quick and easy! | 15:35 |
| dgadomski | so EOF, thanks | 15:35 |
| willcooke | #topic didrocks | 15:35 |
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| willcooke | More holidays.... | 15:35 |
| willcooke | oh, no | 15:35 |
| willcooke | you've been back a week now | 15:35 |
| didrocks | tssss :p | 15:36 |
| didrocks | * Ubuntu Make: | 15:36 |
| didrocks | - review community contribution (multiple back and force) on firefox dev language support. Should be ready to be merged soon! An excellent new contributor is on this one. \o/ | 15:36 |
| didrocks | - tutor and help another new contributor on first step to implement the intel SDK support. | 15:36 |
| didrocks | - bugs triaging. | 15:36 |
| didrocks | * Dev advocacy: | 15:36 |
| didrocks | - implemented u1db support to splitthebill example. | 15:36 |
| didrocks | - adding multiple pages and try to form best practice like 2 way databinding, signals, private properties (write as well in which order to go over them in the tutorials). | 15:36 |
| didrocks | - fought with positionning issues and the QML layout system to understand it better and its limitations (bugs). | 15:36 |
| didrocks | - raised multiple bugs (2 on u1db-qt and button+icon sizing) for issues not making sense for developers. | 15:36 |
| didrocks | - good chat with our uitk upstream developers on those. | 15:36 |
| didrocks | - check and try to get some ideas on what would be good examples for IoT related tutorials/sessions. | 15:36 |
| didrocks | * Misc: | 15:36 |
| didrocks | - Checked in prerelease that multiple SDK IDE bugs are indeed fixed. | 15:36 |
| didrocks | eof | 15:36 |
| didrocks | - after the snails, waiting now for some frog emails | 15:36 |
| willcooke | excellent, thanks a lot didrocks | 15:36 |
| didrocks | yw! | 15:37 |
| * willcooke makes a note to think more about IoT examples. | 15:37 | |
| didrocks | would be appreciated, I have some leads | 15:37 |
| willcooke | #topic FJKong | 15:37 |
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| willcooke | Howdy FJKong | 15:37 |
| FJKong | hey | 15:37 |
| FJKong | * testing for new release of sogou IM | 15:38 |
| FJKong | 1 skin preview loading speed when swith to sogou IM the first time | 15:38 |
| FJKong | 2 auto start after crash or process killed | 15:38 |
| FJKong | 3 status of memory using | 15:38 |
| FJKong | 4 stablility testing | 15:38 |
| FJKong | * half day for Sweden VISA interview | 15:38 |
| FJKong | that'all | 15:38 |
| willcooke | Good luck with the Visa | 15:38 |
| willcooke | and thatnks | 15:38 |
| willcooke | thanks | 15:38 |
| FJKong | still waiting for the news | 15:38 |
| willcooke | #topic happyaron | 15:38 |
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| Laney | Swisa | 15:39 |
| willcooke | 1. Bring CI system of sogoupinyin back to life | 15:39 |
| willcooke | 2. Preparing release of sogoupinyin (major feature: Shuangpin), | 15:39 |
| willcooke | working with QA now | 15:39 |
| willcooke | 3. Product manager has changed, helping with the handover work | 15:39 |
| willcooke | 4. Update packages of Ubuntu Kylin, prepare for Alpha 2 | 15:39 |
| willcooke | #topic Laney | 15:39 |
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| Laney | helloooOOOOoooooOOooo | 15:39 |
| Laney | • Some release wrangling for alpha 2 | 15:39 |
| Laney | • Babysitting (& bug filing) of autopkgtest-cloud while p-itti was away | 15:39 |
| Laney | • Bugfix to gnome-screenshot to make enter work on the print screen dialog | 15:39 |
| Laney | • Patch pilot | 15:39 |
| Laney | • Get gstreamer 1.0 uploaded, which got stuck on... | 15:40 |
| Laney | • vpx transition, usual fun | 15:40 |
| Laney | ∘ update gst-bad-0.10 to fix FTBFS with new vpx | 15:40 |
| Laney | ∘ Kick some autopkgtests | 15:40 |
| Laney | ∘ Fight with libav which is in some weird half dead state, kill it a bit more | 15:40 |
| Laney | • Testfixes to get glib migrated | 15:40 |
| Laney | ∘ matplotlib -> pyside -> shiboken (python3.5 breakage) | 15:40 |
| Laney | ∘ udisks2 (kernel bug #1478623, overridden) | 15:40 |
| ubot5 | bug 1478623 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel oops - blk_update_request: I/O error when running udisks2 force_test_removal test" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1478623 | 15:40 |
| Laney | ∘ chromium-browser (fixed) | 15:40 |
| Laney | ∘ winff | 15:40 |
| Laney | ∘ notice that autopilot got broken, give some feedback and reviews on how to fix that | 15:40 |
| Laney | • Merge gtk3 with Debian to get 3.16.6 | 15:40 |
| Laney | • Get new gnupg2 and gcr bugfix in to re-enable "Save in password manager" support, not that I dare to use it... | 15:40 |
| Laney | • Next: make sure A2 is released, (still) push e-d-s 3.16, review gst-bad patch from abeato | 15:40 |
| Laney | ⚔ | 15:40 |
| willcooke | thanks Laney | 15:41 |
| willcooke | #topic qengho | 15:41 |
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| Laney | I wish those sub bullets indented properly :( | 15:41 |
| qengho | - chromium-ozone-mir progress! I expect to have it running in the next week! Perhaps not running *well*. | 15:41 |
| qengho | - orientating self to firefox. | 15:41 |
| qengho | - new chromium 44 almost ready. ffmpeg library inclusion caused about five packaging problems. tried to get it to CCC before his vacation, but I don't think it's going to happen. | 15:41 |
| qengho | EOF | 15:41 |
| willcooke | thanks qengho, nice work on the Mir b/e | 15:42 |
| willcooke | (and they other stuff, of course) | 15:42 |
| willcooke | *the | 15:42 |
| willcooke | #topic seb128 | 15:42 |
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| seb128 | • snappy personal | 15:42 |
| seb128 | ∘ reviewed/NEWed unity-scope-snappy | 15:42 |
| seb128 | • sponsored new gegl and gnome-photos | 15:42 |
| seb128 | • NEWed binaries from previous review round, accepted gnome-calendar | 15:42 |
| seb128 | • some wily archive maintainance | 15:42 |
| seb128 | ∘ fixed didjvu build | 15:42 |
| seb128 | ∘ fixed spice-gtk installability issue | 15:42 |
| seb128 | ∘ reverted zenity to webkit1 which is the only version in main | 15:42 |
| seb128 | ∘ fixed account-plugins blocked in proposed due to installability issues | 15:42 |
| seb128 | ∘ ucommon transition (soname change) | 15:42 |
| seb128 | ∘ libplist transition (soname change) | 15:42 |
| seb128 | ∘ looked a bit at some python3.5 transition issues | 15:42 |
| seb128 | • SRUed u-s-d touchpad toggle fix to vivid/trusty | 15:42 |
| seb128 | • sponsored u-c-c trusty SRU (video details) for the oem team | 15:42 |
| seb128 | • looked at touch langpack not shipping glib translations | 15:43 |
| seb128 | • started discussion about moving bluetooth auth from settings to a standalone service (touch) | 15:43 |
| seb128 | • got regularly sidetracked by some bugs triaging/reporting/fixing for touch issues I hit on my phone | 15:43 |
| seb128 | </week> | 15:43 |
| Laney | some good archive abuse | 15:43 |
| seb128 | oh, also discussed gcc5 transitions and starting looking at it a bit more/signed up for helping | 15:43 |
| willcooke | thank you seb128 | 15:43 |
| seb128 | yw! | 15:44 |
| willcooke | #topic Sweet5hark1 | 15:44 |
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| Sweet5hark1 | hello, this is going to be a wall of text. brace for impact. | 15:44 |
| willcooke | :) | 15:44 |
| Sweet5hark1 | - packaged LibreOffice 4.4.5 for ppa | 15:44 |
| Sweet5hark1 | - work on vanilla/dedebianized libreoffice package as a base for snap/click package creation | 15:44 |
| Sweet5hark1 | -- first attempt: disabling mostly only what we dont build in Ubuntu either: | 15:44 |
| Sweet5hark1 | --- collada, firebird-db, gstreamer 0.10, kde3, postgresql, bundled fonts | 15:44 |
| Sweet5hark1 | --- use only boost, python, cairo, icu from system, but bundle (if used): zlib, jpeg, clucene, expat, libxml, ucpp, openldap, poppler, mariadb, hsqldb, beanshell, rhino, jfreereport, odbc, sane, bluez, glm, vigra, hunspell, mythes, lpsolve, coinmp, liblangtag, eot, revenge, ebook, etonyek, freehand, odfgen, libcdr, mspub, mwaw, libpagemaker, libvisio, libcmis, libwpd/wps/wpg, lcms2, libabw, mdds, glew, nss, graphite, orcus, harfbuzz, a | 15:44 |
| Sweet5hark1 | --- does NOT build any debug symbols, do NOT build l10n beyond english etc. | 15:44 |
| Sweet5hark1 | --- => 114MB binary xz-compressed *.deb amd64 (installed size obviously larger) | 15:44 |
| Sweet5hark1 | -- second attempt: enable mergelibs, disable: gltf, odk (500MB sdk docs), galleries, any theme beyond tango | 15:44 |
| Sweet5hark1 | --- => 78MB binary *.deb amd64 | 15:44 |
| Sweet5hark1 | -- third attempt (for docviewer): disable cups, coinmp, dbus, extensions, extension-integration, gconf, gio, gstreamer-1.0, gtk, liblangtag, lotuswordpro, lpsolve, neon, pdfimport, randr, scripting: beanshell/javascript, systray, impress-remote, webdav, help/helppack-integration, java | 15:45 |
| Sweet5hark1 | --- => 68MB binary *.deb amd64 | 15:45 |
| Sweet5hark1 | --- note that armhf binaries seem to be some 10-15% smaller than amd64 => expect armhf to be ~60 MB | 15:45 |
| Sweet5hark1 | -- lintian of course implodes into a black hole after a long hissy fit on the package as it install entirely into /opt/libreoffice | 15:45 |
| Sweet5hark1 | -- debian/rules on this is a trivial 46 lines as opposed to the 3300 on the debianized version | 15:45 |
| Sweet5hark1 | -- this is not even starting to try tricks like compiling with -Os instead of -O2, or nuking files out of the install (say: base stuff) | 15:45 |
| Sweet5hark1 | -- oh, I also looked into using -flto link time opt. -- didnt work out yet though, but would likely be aweseom sizewise. | 15:45 |
| Sweet5hark1 | EOF | 15:45 |
| Laney | bundling the world... so this is progress... | 15:46 |
| * Laney holds Sweet5hark1 | 15:46 | |
| willcooke | :) | 15:46 |
| Sweet5hark1 | Laney: *cough* right | 15:46 |
| willcooke | Thank you Sweet5hark1, we feel your pain | 15:46 |
| willcooke | #topic tkamppeter | 15:46 |
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| willcooke | - ghostscript: Uploaded version with security fix applied to Wily | 15:47 |
| willcooke | - cups-filters: Continued work on cups-browsed to let the daemon observe D-Bus notifications from CUPS to handle in a more sophisticated way if a cups-browsed-generated printer is set as default and also to implement load balancing when the same printer is provided by various servers. | 15:47 |
| willcooke | - Bugs. | 15:47 |
| willcooke | #topic themuso | 15:47 |
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| willcooke | * Started revising plans for accessibility profile management in Ubuntu, with plans to completely implement a better solution for 16.04. | 15:47 |
| willcooke | * Further to the above, started investigations as to the best way to store profile settings, with a desire to be able to revert to whatever the default setting was originally. | 15:47 |
| willcooke | * Further work ongoing upstream for Speech DIspatcher plans and some patch processing. | 15:47 |
| willcooke | #topic robert_ansell | 15:47 |
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| Laney | cell | 15:47 |
| willcooke | - Released xorg-server 1.17.2 | 15:47 |
| willcooke | - End of lifed lightdm 1.12, simple-scan 3.14 | 15:47 |
| willcooke | - Updated glibmm | 15:47 |
| willcooke | - Fix zeitgeist FTBFS with GCC5 | 15:47 |
| willcooke | - Fix issues in gegl 0.3 package | 15:47 |
| willcooke | oops | 15:47 |
| * Laney pays attention :) | 15:47 | |
| willcooke | #topic robert_ancell | 15:47 |
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| willcooke | all that other stuff ^^ | 15:47 |
| seb128 | lol | 15:47 |
| willcooke | #topic AOB | 15:47 |
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| willcooke | Any other business? | 15:48 |
| seb128 | o/ | 15:48 |
| seb128 | just wanted to mention that we should refresh the bluez5 ppa and try to land that this cycle | 15:48 |
| willcooke | yes indeed | 15:48 |
| seb128 | there are no phone planned based on wily so that's not a blocker | 15:48 |
| didrocks | did the touch side changed? | 15:48 |
| * willcooke is discussing now with phone people | 15:48 | |
| didrocks | ah, you want to regress it? | 15:48 |
| seb128 | didrocks, they have it on their backlog for next iteration | 15:48 |
| seb128 | but we don't need to block wait on them since there is no wily product | 15:49 |
| seb128 | it's the only way we are going to get that update before the lts imho | 15:49 |
| didrocks | I unfortunately quite agree, even if I dislike the "let's regress and fix" | 15:49 |
| didrocks | but as it's been on their backlog for quite a few iterations… | 15:50 |
| didrocks | maybe that would be a decent way, no idea | 15:50 |
| seb128 | yeah, same here | 15:50 |
| seb128 | anyone who want to help refreshing the ppa packages? | 15:51 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, maybe you are interested to help on trying to land bluez5? ;-) | 15:51 |
| seb128 | I can give an hand, but after the gcc5 things I said I work on | 15:51 |
| seb128 | so probably next week | 15:51 |
| cyphermox | next week seems a better target | 15:52 |
| cyphermox | I'm busy with a multipath-tools SRU that should happen before yesterday | 15:53 |
| seb128 | yeah, we are speaking about resuming work in the ppa to get in a state where we can land | 15:53 |
| seb128 | k | 15:53 |
| seb128 | willcooke, I don't think we need to discuss that more in the meeting btw | 15:53 |
| cyphermox | so, I'm +1000 on landing bluez5 this cycle | 15:53 |
| willcooke | oki, let's wrap. We can always carry on other topics later | 15:53 |
| willcooke | #endmeeting | 15:53 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Jul 28 15:53:56 2015 UTC. | 15:53 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-07-28-15.30.moin.txt | 15:53 |
| willcooke | thank you everyone | 15:54 |
| didrocks | thanks! | 15:54 |
| seb128 | thanks | 15:54 |
| Laney | A++ great meeting, would attend again | 15:55 |
| willcooke | Laney, you're in luck then ;) | 15:56 |
| seb128 | yeah, I agree! | 15:56 |
| Laney | same time, same place, next week! | 15:56 |
| seb128 | let's do this again sometime | 15:56 |
| Sweet5hark1 | willcooke: we should consider ourselves lucky that Laney came along with an ebay quote not a youtube quote ... | 15:57 |
| willcooke | hahahahah! | 15:57 |
| Laney | I don't have much clue about those :) | 15:57 |
| Laney | twitter.com/AvoidComments live your life by this | 15:57 |
| willcooke | :D | 16:00 |
| willcooke | "You wouldn't listen to someone named Bonerman26 in real life." | 16:00 |
| mitya57 | Laney: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/212480493/shiboken_1.2.2-1_1.2.2-1ubuntu1.diff.gz — the --builddirectory looks wrong, wrong copy-paste? | 16:21 |
| Laney | mitya57: ya | 16:21 |
| Laney | mitya57: you want to fix? | 16:21 |
| mitya57 | ok, will do now | 16:21 |
| Laney | It's "only" for the tests | 16:22 |
| Laney | but maybe they now break :) | 16:22 |
| mitya57 | I'll test-build | 16:22 |
| Laney | thanks! | 16:24 |
| Laney | mitya57: do you know anything about the ipython test failure, btw? | 16:26 |
| * Laney can't see the error | 16:28 | |
| Laney | ah I needed to click full log | 16:30 |
| Laney | https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/wily-adt-ipython/24/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/consoleFull | 16:30 |
| Laney | matplotlib | 16:30 |
| * mitya57 doesn't know what happened to ipython | 16:42 | |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| seb128 | mpt, hey, any chance you verify the fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1293168 if you still get the issue? | 17:58 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1293168 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu Trusty) "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in compute_drop_position()" [High,Fix committed] | 17:58 |
| willcooke | gnight | 20:04 |
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