[03:33] <pitti> Good morning!
[05:25] <didrocks> good morning
[05:30] <pitti> bonjour didrocks, ça va ?
[05:31] <didrocks> oh, pitti is back! I'm good thanks, how were your holidays?
[05:32] <pitti> didrocks: wonderful, thanks! quite exhausting to go over the Alps with so much luggage and a normal street (not Mountain) bike, but it was fun!
[05:32] <pitti> quite hot too, but we spent the afternoons on lakes :)
[05:33] <didrocks> pitti: yeah, I imagine that you didn't escape from the general hot weather around ;)
[05:33] <didrocks> did you visit any particular village, or you were more in the nature?
[05:35] <pitti> didrocks: no, mostly just enjoying the nature, good air, and sun
[05:37] <didrocks> excellent :)
[05:37] <pitti> very relaxing!
[05:37] <pitti> didrocks: how have you been?
[05:39] <didrocks> quite warm! but the temperature is better since this week-end, so it's easier to work now :)
[05:50] <pitti> yeah, here too
[06:03] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[06:03] <seb128> oh, a pitti
[06:03] <seb128> pitti, wb! did you have a good holidays?
[06:03] <pitti> ça va seb128 !
[06:03] <pitti> seb128: yes, they were nice! quite exhausting and hot days while going over the Alps with too much luggage, but we made it :)
[06:03] <seb128> great :-)
[06:04] <pitti> we cycled in the morning and spent the hot afternoons on lakes and in the shadow :)
[06:04] <pitti> seb128: how are you?
[06:04] <seb128> I'm good thanks
[06:06] <seb128> I could so with some hot here, it's cold and wet :-/
[06:09] <pitti> I'm actually quite grateful; it had some rain yesterday after weeks of draught, and now it's ~ 20 C (sunny/cloudy)
[06:32] <RAOF> Hey, ho, pitti, seb128 and didrocks!
[06:33] <pitti> hey RAOF, how are you?
[06:33] <seb128> hey RAOF
[06:33] <didrocks> hey hey RAOF!
[06:33] <RAOF> A bit tired! Back in Hobart today though :)
[06:35] <RAOF> It's a fair amount of effort to travel from Perth with Zoë :)
[07:11] <seb128> pitti, how often are we supposed to have touch langpack updates in wily?
[07:11] <pitti> seb128: I enabled the cronjob now
[07:11] <pitti> seb128: I'll trigger a manual build as soon as we get the priority fixed
[07:11] <seb128> pitti, dpm fixed the launchpad template yesterday, unsure how often his page is refreshed
[07:11] <pitti> seb128: i. e. "weekly"
[07:12] <seb128> pitti, thanks for replying on that bug ;-)
[07:12] <pitti> seb128: thanks for pointing that out; it was a good opportunity to fix some langpack-o-matic issues
[07:12] <pitti> wrt. handling the stats parsing
[07:12] <seb128> right
[07:12] <seb128> yw!
[07:16] <RAOF> Hm. Hey, is desrt on holiday at the moment?
[07:18] <didrocks> RAOF: yes, for a couple of weeks
[07:18] <RAOF> Aha.
[07:19] <RAOF> That would explain why I haven't got any mail from him, then :)
[07:19] <didrocks> indeed :p
[07:56] <willcooke> goodly moreload
[07:58] <seb128> hey willcooke
[08:01]  * TheMuso waves to all as he heads out. :)
[08:02] <seb128> TheMuso, night
[08:03] <Laney> hey hey
[08:03] <willcooke> cya TheMuso
[08:03] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you today?
[08:05] <Laney> hey seb128, feeling tired for some reason
[08:05] <Laney> also my fingers are feeling the burn
[08:06] <seb128> Laney, too much climbing?
[08:07] <didrocks> hey willcooke, morning Laney
[08:08] <didrocks> bye TheMuso
[08:08] <Laney> seb128: they put a new "wood" circuit in which has small holds
[08:09] <Laney> good to try some more hard stuff :P
[08:09] <Laney> how's it going?
[08:09] <Laney> hey didrocks
[08:09] <Laney> what's new
[08:09] <Laney> ?
[08:12] <didrocks> Laney: fighting with qml layout system, otherwise, good! yourself?
[08:12] <Laney> haha, that is definitely not new
[08:13] <seb128> kudos to the sdk team which seems to be responsive to didrocks' questions
[08:14] <didrocks> indeed ;)
[08:17] <Laney> seb128: thx for that bug link
[08:17] <Laney> I should have subscribed ...
[08:17] <Laney> can't really remember what it's about now
[08:20] <seb128> Laney, yw
[08:28] <didrocks> seb128: and trading that against bugs (2 since yesterday ;))
[08:30] <seb128> didrocks, upstream Qt or our uitk?
[08:31] <didrocks> seb128: it seems to be a uitk component at least
[08:31] <didrocks> the one from yesterday was clearly u1db-qt
[08:31] <didrocks> this one is either the sizing model of Qt which has changed or the uitk button implementation
[08:32] <seb128> didrocks, what's the issue with the example you just pastebinet?
[08:32] <seb128> pastebined
[08:32] <seb128> oh, I see
[08:33] <didrocks> yeah
[08:33] <didrocks> look at the screenshots as well
[08:33] <didrocks> http://people.canonical.com/~didrocks/qmltest/withouticons.png (all good)
[08:33] <didrocks> http://people.canonical.com/~didrocks/qmltest/withicons.png
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[08:54] <willcooke> hrm
[08:54] <willcooke> that's twice I've been disconnected this morning
[08:56] <Laney> ISP?
[08:56] <Laney> or Ubuntu side
[08:56] <willcooke> ISP I reckon
[08:57] <willcooke> In the last couple of months we've got FTTC and so everyone is upgrading
[08:57] <willcooke> I guess they pull the wrong cable out now and again
[08:57] <Laney> how much does that work out to?
[08:57] <Laney> is it capped?
[08:57]  * Laney could be tempted away from virgin
[08:59] <willcooke> It's about 35 quid a month, uncapped but "managed" (in reality I don't notice anything change speed)
[08:59] <willcooke> It's mostly reliable
[08:59] <willcooke> +1 for Plusnet - you can get a fixed IP for a fiver one-off charge
[08:59] <willcooke> A&A are of course better, but more expensive
[09:00] <davmor2> willcooke: run speedof.me :)
[09:02] <willcooke> ~ 40 Mb
[09:04] <Laney> Yeah A&A gets expensive fast when you add daytime capacity on top of FTTC
[09:04] <davmor2> willcooke: http://speedof.me/show.php?img=150727190138-94937.png
[09:05] <Laney> 56
[09:05] <Laney> this is because I'm on crappy powerline
[09:05]  * Laney wants to put the modem up here
[09:20] <willcooke> qengho, chrisccoulson - sverdy is seeing "thanks for running the daily build" of Thunderbird this morning on a Trusty machine - is that normal?
[09:21] <willcooke> tkamppeter, you're up very early?!
[09:21] <chrisccoulson> willcooke, see mozilla bug 1186390
[09:21] <ubot5> Mozilla bug 1186390 in Thunderbird ""Welcome to Daily!" message in thunderbird 31.8.0" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1186390
[09:21] <willcooke> chrisccoulson, lulz - thank you
[09:21] <chrisccoulson> There's not much we can do about that - it needs fixing on the server side
[09:22]  * willcooke makes a note to look at bugzilla first
[09:22] <willcooke> nw, thanks chrisccoulson
[09:39] <willcooke> happyaron, ping
[09:39] <willcooke> happyaron, actually, unping - I'll email you
[09:40] <happyaron> willcooke: pong
[09:40] <happyaron> :)
[09:40] <willcooke> :D
[09:44] <willcooke> mpt, thanks for the info
[09:44] <Laney> willcooke is being very mysterious
[09:47] <willcooke> I'm mixing up my communication mechanisms to maximum effect
[09:47] <willcooke> laney, I will now email you...
[09:48] <seb128> what's going on there?!
[09:48] <willcooke> no email for sebv
[09:48] <willcooke> seb
[09:48] <willcooke> and didrocks, you get real snail mail
[09:48] <seb128> I'm going to start following you on twitter then
[09:48] <willcooke> haha :D
[09:48] <seb128> :-)
[09:50] <Laney> now I understand why you wanted to keep that information quiet
[09:51]  * Laney employs it to maximum gain
[09:51] <Laney> (brb, casino)
[09:55] <willcooke> XD
[11:07] <mzanetti> seb128, weird... building gsettings-qt complains that it can't find gsettings-qt-dev... https://launchpadlibrarian.net/212921867/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.gsettings-qt_0.1%2B15.04.20150728-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[11:07] <mzanetti> have you seen that before?
[11:12] <chrisccoulson> ricotz, want me to take firefox 40.0b8?
[11:14] <ricotz> chrisccoulson, it is still on my list
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[11:19] <didrocks> willcooke: what what, I'm just back from running and you offer french lunch? :)
[11:19] <ricotz> chrisccoulson, so I presume I will upload it with the next 3-4 hours
[11:20] <chrisccoulson> ricotz, ok, I'll let you do it :)
[11:46] <seb128> mzanetti, no I didn't
[11:46] <mzanetti> seb128, figured it by now, so, nvm
[11:46] <seb128> mzanetti, what was it?
[11:47] <mzanetti> a bug in the branch I'm trying to land
[11:47] <seb128> k
[11:54] <davmor2> seb128: if willcooke is down to snail mail I would recommend getting a pigeon coop instead of twitter
[11:54] <seb128> that's an idea ;-)
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[12:10] <Sweet5hark1> urgh. --disable-dependency-tracking seems to break "make && make check" ...
[12:11] <ogra_> but it adds extra privacy to your build at least :P
[12:11] <Sweet5hark1> ... lets see if "make; make -k check || true; make check" fares better ...
[12:13] <Sweet5hark1> (kinda between a rock and a hard place: disable deps for performance/ressource usage, but then run tests twice instead. :/)
[12:13] <seb128> Sweet5hark1, btw unsure if you saw my ping on monday (or I didn't see you reply), did you contact the DMB about libreoffice uploads?
[12:14] <Sweet5hark1> seb128:  saw it, but was already in the weekend. not done yet -- should do this week. thanks for the ping.
[12:15] <seb128> Sweet5hark1, yw! thanks for following up on that ;-)
[12:16]  * Sweet5hark1 suspects though that now that I am packaging 20 different flavors of libreoffice from the same source seb128 understandably really does want to upload all those ... ;)
[12:16] <seb128> lol
[12:17] <Sweet5hark1> I called this source package libreoffice-vanilla. Up next: libreoffice-chocolate and libreoffice-strawberry
[12:17]  * ogra_ wants -whipped-cream too !
[12:18] <Sweet5hark1> ogra_: I tried that but the builders are too lean for that.
[12:19] <ogra_> damn !
[12:38] <willcooke> didrocks, snail mail on the way
[12:43] <seb128> willcooke, how does a snail cross the channel?
[12:43] <didrocks> I guess eurostar
[12:44] <willcooke> LHR to CDG
[12:45] <Laney> fire it out of a cannon
[12:46] <didrocks> that could grill it as well though
[12:47] <Laney> perfect!
[12:53] <ChrisTownsend> Hey guys!  I'm trying to run gedit in Xmir on Unity 8, but every time I try running it, it still looks for Mir.  This happens even if I set GDK_BACKEND=x11.   How is gedit figuring out it's running on a Mir platform?
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[12:54] <willcooke> attente_ might be able to help ^
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[12:55] <attente> ChrisTownsend: is DISPLAY set?
[12:55] <ChrisTownsend> attente: Yes
[13:00] <attente> ChrisTownsend: i've seen this problem before with wayland as well, where it basically defaults to wayland if the server is running even if GDK_BACKEND=x11
[13:00] <attente> i'll look into it
[13:02] <ChrisTownsend> attente: Cool, thanks
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[15:21] <Laney> notification × 2 laptops, SMS, email
[15:21] <Laney> I think there's a meeting coming up ...
[15:21] <willcooke> Laney, did you get the fax I sent you too?
[15:21] <Laney> wait, I hear a horse galloping up the street
[15:21] <Laney> the telegram is here
[15:21] <willcooke> lol!
[15:30] <willcooke> It's time!
[15:30] <seb128> ohohoh
[15:30] <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2015-07-28
[15:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul 28 15:30:22 2015 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[15:30] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
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[15:30] <willcooke> End of July already?!!??!
[15:30] <willcooke> Oh boy
[15:30] <qengho> Tempus fugit
[15:30] <willcooke> Roll call: attente, dgadomski, didrocks, fjkong, happyaron (out), laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, tkamppeter (out), themuso (out), robert_ancell (out)
[15:30] <didrocks> hey!
[15:30] <dgadomski> o/
[15:30] <FJKong> ｈｅｙ
[15:31] <willcooke> Let's roll...
[15:31] <willcooke> #topic attente
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[15:32] <willcooke> How you doing attente?
[15:32] <attente> hi, short week, continued discussions and re-factoring gtk menu positioning code for the mir backend
[15:33] <willcooke> attente, eof?
[15:33] <attente> (eof)
[15:34] <willcooke> thanks!  Let me know how you get on with that issue Chris mentioned earlier.
[15:34] <willcooke> I think I remember you talking about that issue before
[15:35] <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
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[15:35] <dgadomski> hi
[15:35] <dgadomski> I've been on vacation for the last couple of days so nothing to share this time
[15:35] <willcooke> quick and easy!
[15:35] <dgadomski> so EOF, thanks
[15:35] <willcooke> #topic didrocks
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[15:35] <willcooke> More holidays....
[15:35] <willcooke> oh, no
[15:35] <willcooke> you've been back a week now
[15:36] <didrocks> tssss :p
[15:36] <didrocks> * Ubuntu Make:
[15:36] <didrocks> - review community contribution (multiple back and force) on firefox dev language support. Should be ready to be merged soon! An excellent new contributor is on this one. \o/
[15:36] <didrocks> - tutor and help another new contributor on first step to implement the intel SDK support.
[15:36] <didrocks> - bugs triaging.
[15:36] <didrocks> * Dev advocacy:
[15:36] <didrocks> - implemented u1db support to splitthebill example.
[15:36] <didrocks> - adding multiple pages and try to form best practice like 2 way databinding, signals, private properties (write as well in which order to go over them in the tutorials).
[15:36] <didrocks> - fought with positionning issues and the QML layout system to understand it better and its limitations (bugs).
[15:36] <didrocks> - raised multiple bugs (2 on u1db-qt and button+icon sizing) for issues not making sense for developers.
[15:36] <didrocks> - good chat with our uitk upstream developers on those.
[15:36] <didrocks> - check and try to get some ideas on what would be good examples for IoT related tutorials/sessions.
[15:36] <didrocks> * Misc:
[15:36] <didrocks> - Checked in prerelease that multiple SDK IDE bugs are indeed fixed.
[15:36] <didrocks> eof
[15:36] <didrocks> - after the snails, waiting now for some frog emails
[15:36] <willcooke> excellent, thanks a lot didrocks
[15:37] <didrocks> yw!
[15:37]  * willcooke makes a note to think more about IoT examples.  
[15:37] <didrocks> would be appreciated, I have some leads
[15:37] <willcooke> #topic FJKong
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[15:37] <willcooke> Howdy FJKong
[15:37] <FJKong>   hey
[15:38] <FJKong> * testing for new release of sogou IM
[15:38] <FJKong> 1 skin preview loading speed when swith to sogou IM the first time
[15:38] <FJKong> 2 auto start after crash or process killed
[15:38] <FJKong> 3 status of memory using
[15:38] <FJKong> 4 stablility testing
[15:38] <FJKong> * half day for Sweden VISA interview
[15:38] <FJKong> that'all
[15:38] <willcooke> Good luck with the Visa
[15:38] <willcooke> and thatnks
[15:38] <willcooke> thanks
[15:38] <FJKong> still waiting for the news
[15:38] <willcooke> #topic happyaron
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[15:39] <Laney> Swisa
[15:39] <willcooke> 1. Bring CI system of sogoupinyin back to life
[15:39] <willcooke> 2. Preparing release of sogoupinyin (major feature: Shuangpin),
[15:39] <willcooke> working with QA now
[15:39] <willcooke> 3. Product manager has changed, helping with the handover work
[15:39] <willcooke> 4. Update packages of Ubuntu Kylin, prepare for Alpha 2
[15:39] <willcooke> #topic Laney
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[15:39] <Laney> helloooOOOOoooooOOooo
[15:39] <Laney> • Some release wrangling for alpha 2
[15:39] <Laney> • Babysitting (& bug filing) of autopkgtest-cloud while p-itti was away
[15:39] <Laney> • Bugfix to gnome-screenshot to make enter work on the print screen dialog
[15:39] <Laney> • Patch pilot
[15:40] <Laney> • Get gstreamer 1.0 uploaded, which got stuck on...
[15:40] <Laney> • vpx transition, usual fun
[15:40] <Laney> ∘ update gst-bad-0.10 to fix FTBFS with new vpx
[15:40] <Laney> ∘ Kick some autopkgtests
[15:40] <Laney> ∘ Fight with libav which is in some weird half dead state, kill it a bit more
[15:40] <Laney> • Testfixes to get glib migrated
[15:40] <Laney> ∘ matplotlib -> pyside -> shiboken (python3.5 breakage)
[15:40] <Laney> ∘ udisks2 (kernel bug #1478623, overridden)
[15:40] <ubot5> bug 1478623 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel oops - blk_update_request: I/O error when running udisks2 force_test_removal test" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1478623
[15:40] <Laney> ∘ chromium-browser (fixed)
[15:40] <Laney> ∘ winff
[15:40] <Laney> ∘ notice that autopilot got broken, give some feedback and reviews on how to fix that
[15:40] <Laney> • Merge gtk3 with Debian to get 3.16.6
[15:40] <Laney> • Get new gnupg2 and gcr bugfix in to re-enable "Save in password manager" support, not that I dare to use it...
[15:40] <Laney> • Next: make sure A2 is released, (still) push e-d-s 3.16, review gst-bad patch from abeato
[15:40] <Laney> ⚔
[15:41] <willcooke> thanks Laney
[15:41] <willcooke> #topic qengho
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[15:41] <Laney> I wish those sub bullets indented properly :(
[15:41] <qengho> - chromium-ozone-mir progress! I expect to have it running in the next week! Perhaps not running *well*.
[15:41] <qengho> - orientating self to firefox.
[15:41] <qengho> - new chromium 44 almost ready. ffmpeg library inclusion caused about five packaging problems. tried to get it to CCC before his vacation, but I don't think it's going to happen.
[15:41] <qengho> EOF
[15:42] <willcooke> thanks qengho, nice work on the Mir b/e
[15:42] <willcooke> (and they other stuff, of course)
[15:42] <willcooke> *the
[15:42] <willcooke> #topic seb128
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[15:42] <seb128> • snappy personal
[15:42] <seb128> ∘ reviewed/NEWed unity-scope-snappy
[15:42] <seb128> • sponsored new gegl and gnome-photos
[15:42] <seb128> • NEWed binaries from previous review round, accepted gnome-calendar
[15:42] <seb128> • some wily archive maintainance
[15:42] <seb128> ∘ fixed didjvu build
[15:42] <seb128> ∘ fixed spice-gtk installability issue
[15:42] <seb128> ∘ reverted zenity to webkit1 which is the only version in main
[15:42] <seb128> ∘ fixed account-plugins blocked in proposed due to installability issues
[15:42] <seb128> ∘ ucommon transition (soname change)
[15:42] <seb128> ∘ libplist transition (soname change)
[15:42] <seb128> ∘ looked a bit at some python3.5 transition issues
[15:42] <seb128> • SRUed u-s-d touchpad toggle fix to vivid/trusty
[15:42] <seb128> • sponsored u-c-c trusty SRU (video details) for the oem team
[15:43] <seb128> • looked at touch langpack not shipping glib translations
[15:43] <seb128> • started discussion about moving bluetooth auth from settings to a standalone service (touch)
[15:43] <seb128> • got regularly sidetracked by some bugs triaging/reporting/fixing for touch issues I hit on my phone
[15:43] <seb128> </week>
[15:43] <Laney> some good archive abuse
[15:43] <seb128> oh, also discussed gcc5 transitions and starting looking at it a bit more/signed up for helping
[15:43] <willcooke> thank you seb128
[15:44] <seb128> yw!
[15:44] <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark1
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[15:44] <Sweet5hark1> hello, this is going to be a wall of text. brace for impact.
[15:44] <willcooke> :)
[15:44] <Sweet5hark1> - packaged LibreOffice 4.4.5 for ppa
[15:44] <Sweet5hark1> - work on vanilla/dedebianized libreoffice package as a base for snap/click package creation
[15:44] <Sweet5hark1> -- first attempt: disabling mostly only what we dont build in Ubuntu either:
[15:44] <Sweet5hark1> --- collada, firebird-db, gstreamer 0.10, kde3, postgresql, bundled fonts
[15:44] <Sweet5hark1> --- use only boost, python, cairo, icu from system, but bundle (if used): zlib, jpeg, clucene, expat, libxml, ucpp, openldap, poppler, mariadb, hsqldb, beanshell, rhino, jfreereport, odbc, sane, bluez, glm, vigra, hunspell, mythes, lpsolve, coinmp, liblangtag, eot, revenge, ebook, etonyek, freehand, odfgen, libcdr, mspub, mwaw, libpagemaker, libvisio, libcmis, libwpd/wps/wpg, lcms2, libabw, mdds, glew, nss, graphite, orcus, harfbuzz, a
[15:44] <Sweet5hark1> --- does NOT build any debug symbols, do NOT build l10n beyond english etc.
[15:44] <Sweet5hark1> --- => 114MB binary xz-compressed *.deb amd64 (installed size obviously larger)
[15:44] <Sweet5hark1> -- second attempt: enable mergelibs, disable: gltf, odk (500MB sdk docs), galleries, any theme beyond tango
[15:44] <Sweet5hark1> --- => 78MB binary *.deb amd64
[15:45] <Sweet5hark1> -- third attempt (for docviewer): disable cups, coinmp, dbus, extensions, extension-integration, gconf, gio, gstreamer-1.0, gtk, liblangtag, lotuswordpro, lpsolve, neon, pdfimport, randr, scripting: beanshell/javascript, systray, impress-remote, webdav, help/helppack-integration, java
[15:45] <Sweet5hark1> --- => 68MB binary *.deb amd64
[15:45] <Sweet5hark1> --- note that armhf binaries seem to be some 10-15% smaller than amd64 => expect armhf to be ~60 MB
[15:45] <Sweet5hark1> -- lintian of course implodes into a black hole after a long hissy fit on the package as it install entirely into /opt/libreoffice
[15:45] <Sweet5hark1> -- debian/rules on this is a trivial 46 lines as opposed to the 3300 on the debianized version
[15:45] <Sweet5hark1> -- this is not even starting to try tricks like compiling with -Os instead of -O2, or nuking files out of the install (say: base stuff)
[15:45] <Sweet5hark1> -- oh, I also looked into using -flto link time opt. -- didnt work out yet though, but would likely be aweseom sizewise.
[15:45] <Sweet5hark1> EOF
[15:46] <Laney> bundling the world... so this is progress...
[15:46]  * Laney holds Sweet5hark1 
[15:46] <willcooke> :)
[15:46] <Sweet5hark1> Laney: *cough* right
[15:46] <willcooke> Thank you Sweet5hark1, we feel your pain
[15:46] <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
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[15:47] <willcooke> - ghostscript: Uploaded version with security fix applied to Wily
[15:47] <willcooke> - cups-filters: Continued work on cups-browsed to let the daemon observe D-Bus notifications from CUPS to handle in a more sophisticated way if a cups-browsed-generated printer is set as default and also to implement load balancing when the same printer is provided by various servers.
[15:47] <willcooke> - Bugs.
[15:47] <willcooke> #topic themuso
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[15:47] <willcooke> * Started revising plans for accessibility profile management in Ubuntu, with plans to completely implement a better solution for 16.04.
[15:47] <willcooke> * Further to the above, started investigations as to the best way to store profile settings, with a desire to be able to revert to whatever the default setting was originally.
[15:47] <willcooke> * Further work ongoing upstream for Speech DIspatcher plans and some patch processing.
[15:47] <willcooke> #topic robert_ansell
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[15:47] <Laney> cell
[15:47] <willcooke> - Released xorg-server 1.17.2
[15:47] <willcooke> - End of lifed lightdm 1.12, simple-scan 3.14
[15:47] <willcooke> - Updated glibmm
[15:47] <willcooke> - Fix zeitgeist FTBFS with GCC5
[15:47] <willcooke> - Fix issues in gegl 0.3 package
[15:47] <willcooke> oops
[15:47]  * Laney pays attention :)
[15:47] <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
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[15:47] <willcooke> all that other stuff ^^
[15:47] <seb128> lol
[15:47] <willcooke> #topic AOB
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[15:48] <willcooke> Any other business?
[15:48] <seb128> o/
[15:48] <seb128> just wanted to mention that we should refresh the bluez5 ppa and try to land that this cycle
[15:48] <willcooke> yes indeed
[15:48] <seb128> there are no phone planned based on wily so that's not a blocker
[15:48] <didrocks> did the touch side changed?
[15:48]  * willcooke is discussing now with phone people
[15:48] <didrocks> ah, you want to regress it?
[15:48] <seb128> didrocks, they have it on their backlog for next iteration
[15:49] <seb128> but we don't need to block wait on them since there is no wily product
[15:49] <seb128> it's the only way we are going to get that update before the lts imho
[15:49] <didrocks> I unfortunately quite agree, even if I dislike the "let's regress and fix"
[15:50] <didrocks> but as it's been on their backlog for quite a few iterations…
[15:50] <didrocks> maybe that would be a decent way, no idea
[15:50] <seb128> yeah, same here
[15:51] <seb128> anyone who want to help refreshing the ppa packages?
[15:51] <seb128> cyphermox, maybe you are interested to help on trying to land bluez5? ;-)
[15:51] <seb128> I can give an hand, but after the gcc5 things I said I work on
[15:51] <seb128> so probably next week
[15:52] <cyphermox> next week seems a better target
[15:53] <cyphermox> I'm busy with a multipath-tools SRU that should happen before yesterday
[15:53] <seb128> yeah, we are speaking about resuming work in the ppa to get in a state where we can land
[15:53] <seb128> k
[15:53] <seb128> willcooke, I don't think we need to discuss that more in the meeting btw
[15:53] <cyphermox> so, I'm +1000 on landing bluez5 this cycle
[15:53] <willcooke> oki, let's wrap.  We can always carry on other topics later
[15:53] <willcooke> #endmeeting
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[15:53] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jul 28 15:53:56 2015 UTC.
[15:53] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-07-28-15.30.moin.txt
[15:54] <willcooke> thank you everyone
[15:54] <didrocks> thanks!
[15:54] <seb128> thanks
[15:55] <Laney> A++ great meeting, would attend again
[15:56] <willcooke> Laney, you're in luck then ;)
[15:56] <seb128> yeah, I agree!
[15:56] <Laney> same time, same place, next week!
[15:56] <seb128> let's do this again sometime
[15:57] <Sweet5hark1> willcooke: we should consider ourselves lucky that Laney came along with an ebay quote not a youtube quote ...
[15:57] <willcooke> hahahahah!
[15:57] <Laney> I don't have much clue about those :)
[15:57] <Laney> twitter.com/AvoidComments live your life by this
[16:00] <willcooke> :D
[16:00] <willcooke> "You wouldn't listen to someone named Bonerman26 in real life."
[16:21] <mitya57> Laney: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/212480493/shiboken_1.2.2-1_1.2.2-1ubuntu1.diff.gz — the --builddirectory looks wrong, wrong copy-paste?
[16:21] <Laney> mitya57: ya
[16:21] <Laney> mitya57: you want to fix?
[16:21] <mitya57> ok, will do now
[16:22] <Laney> It's "only" for the tests
[16:22] <Laney> but maybe they now break :)
[16:22] <mitya57> I'll test-build
[16:24] <Laney> thanks!
[16:26] <Laney> mitya57: do you know anything about the ipython test failure, btw?
[16:28]  * Laney can't see the error
[16:30] <Laney> ah I needed to click full log
[16:30] <Laney> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/wily-adt-ipython/24/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/consoleFull
[16:30] <Laney> matplotlib
[16:42]  * mitya57 doesn't know what happened to ipython
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[17:58] <seb128> mpt, hey, any chance you verify the fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1293168 if you still get the issue?
[17:58] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1293168 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu Trusty) "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in compute_drop_position()" [High,Fix committed]
[20:04] <willcooke> gnight