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czajkowskialoha11:56
slashbelgood afternoon11:57
zmoylan-piso did you get supermacs when over?11:58
czajkowskinope12:00
czajkowski:(12:00
czajkowskidid eat in jimmy chungs all you can eat buffet instead12:00
czajkowskiand hung out at the trinity capital hotel12:00
slashbellike old times12:00
czajkowskiyup :)12:01
czajkowskiwe did have 60 people at the first meet up which was great12:01
czajkowskiand looking to go back again in september12:01
slashbeli'm actually going to be in Dublin in October12:02
slashbelthere's a linux conference on, that work have suggested i go to12:02
czajkowskioh linux conf EU12:04
czajkowskiyes it's a good one12:04
czajkowskiI'll be in NYC :(12:04
slashbelaye, that's the one12:04
slashbelfortunately work are paying12:04
zmoylan-pibut you'll be in ny!! :-)12:04
slashbeli thought your dog isn't allowing you to leave again?12:05
czajkowskihe's very uspet :(12:09
czajkowskipoor little doggy used to me being at home all day12:09
slashbeland he's thinking: "why did you punish me? have i been bad?"12:11
czajkowski:(12:12
zmoylan-pione of the joys of cats... oh you're back, there's a litter box there with your name on it...12:12
czajkowskiheh12:13
slashbelthat's because cats don't care about you12:14
zmoylan-picats do care, they just are more aloof12:14
slashbelcats only care that you're there to feed them and provide warmth12:17
slashbelif you died, they would eat you12:17
slashbelwhereas a dog would wait for you to wake up12:17
zmoylan-pithat's cat's been practical.  they don't waste anything. very environmental.12:18
* slashbel really hates cats12:18
zmoylan-piwhen a cat brings you a dead mouse it's showing concern that it thinks you can't hunt for yourself12:18
* zmoylan-pi adores moggies of all sizes12:18
slashbelusually that mouse would not be dead12:19
slashbeloften it is still alive just enough12:19
czajkowskislashbel: so on last weeks internal flight there was 1 dog and 1 cat on board12:19
zmoylan-piit's how cats teach their young.  seems cruel but it's merely their way of teaching12:19
czajkowskiam getting better at keeping an eye out12:19
czajkowskiseemingly on many internal EU flights you cna bring pets on board also12:20
czajkowskiso somethjing to keep in mind12:20
zmoylan-piczajkowski you must do enough air miles that you could stand in to do the safety demonstration :-)12:20
czajkowskiand they dont care if you're allergic or not. thye'll move you so you're not near them12:20
slashbelczajkowski: internal British/CTA flight?12:20
czajkowskiCTA ?12:20
slashbelcommon travel area12:20
czajkowskizmoylan-pi: indeed, got given out to last week for not taking my headphones off12:20
slashbelUK, Ireland, Isle of Man etc12:20
czajkowskiasked would it have changed since monday when I listneed to it twice12:20
czajkowskinot sure htye were so keen on my sarcasim12:21
czajkowskislashbel: ah not sure exactly, seen it in france, rome and spain12:21
slashbelaye, when you mentioned it earlier i looked up airline rules12:21
slashbelit seems the budget carriers are best12:22
slashbelryanair, easyjet, aer lingus, flybe do not allow pets in the cabin12:22
czajkowskicool so at least you know now12:22
slashbelluft hansa were the only one i could find that permit them12:22
zmoylan-piwhat about guide dogs?12:22
czajkowskiallowed12:22
czajkowskiin the plane12:22
zmoylan-pithat doesn't make them not a dog...12:23
slashbelaye, thanks for warning me. it never occured to me that people would take cats in the cabin12:23
slashbeldogs are fine12:23
slashbeli am extremely allergic to cats12:23
zmoylan-piwell i've heard a few stories of cats getting lose in the hold.  not a creature you want lose in the wiring...12:23
czajkowskislashbel: aye and many people are so the airline offers to move you far away from the seat12:23
slashbelas in, get me to a hospital when i'm around them for more than a couple of hours12:23
slashbelczajkowski: i bet they don't thoroughly clean the plane afterwards12:24
slashbelare the cats ever allowed out of their cages, do you know?12:24
czajkowskiI've never seen any plane immaculate tbh12:24
czajkowskislashbel: nope never12:24
zmoylan-pithey could easily provide a cat carrier that would prevent hair getting onto the plane and irritating allergic people12:24
slashbelgood, that fur will just get everywhere12:24
slashbelzmoylan-pi: it doesn't irritate me, it stops me breathing12:25
slashbeli have been hospitalised several times over it12:25
slashbelnot something to require when you're airbourne12:26
* zmoylan-pi is surrounded by cats, feral and land lords. wouldn't be your cup of tea. no mice or rats though12:26
slashbeland even if i don't need hospitalisation, it will take days for me to recover12:26
slashbelthat's why i'm grateful to czajkowski's warning, i now check an airline's rule12:26
zmoylan-pidon't they have a jabs you can give yourself if it ever flares up now?12:26
slashbeli have an asthma inhaler12:27
czajkowskislashbel: but no epi pen?12:27
slashbelit keeps me alive but it takes days to recover, and i'm a pretty fit person12:27
slashbelit's not anathalatic shock, it's asthma12:28
slashbelmost asthma is allergy triggered, unfortunately for a lot of people it's an allergy to dust12:28
slashbelat least i can at most times keep cats away12:28
slashbelebel is very helpful and will throw stones at cats for me12:28
* zmoylan-pi hands slashbel a nerf pistol to deter cats...12:28
slashbelwater gun is better, cats hate water12:29
zmoylan-pinerf make water pistols too12:29
zmoylan-piand some cats love water12:29
slashbelwhen we get settled someone, we will get a dog - ebel promised to train it to keep the cats away. horrible things12:31
zmoylan-piweirdly the best thing to keep cats away is another cat.  it seems illogical but my father who didn't like cats much got a cat to keep others away, then trained that one to stay away from him12:32
czajkowskiso I am allergic and scared of cats12:34
czajkowskiadn sure enough where ever I go12:34
czajkowskicats come to me first over someone who love cats12:34
czajkowskiit's annoying12:34
zmoylan-picats do seem to be attracted to people who can't abide cats.  have never worked that out12:34
zmoylan-pimy sister in law is terrified of them.12:35
slashbelswinging my boot at them is usually effective12:35
ebelit'll be sooooo hard to train a dog to chase cats:P12:36
zmoylan-piit makes them stay out of your way, doesn't make them leave area.  cats are +10 stealth12:36
slashbelgermans don't seem as big into cats12:36
ebelczajkowski: just shows. Cats are evil and will go for the weakest person they can sense12:36
ebelI saw a neighbour bringing their cat for a walk on a lead a while ago :P12:37
slashbelone of our neighbours has one, and takes it for a walk on a leash12:37
zmoylan-pigermans do seem to be more dog people.  dogs are more logical perhaps to their way of thinking12:37
slashbeland it's more logical to have an animal who loves you12:38
czajkowskiebel: I ahve no problem in firing a shoe12:38
zmoylan-picats do love you. just show it different12:39
czajkowskigits12:39

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