czajkowski | aloha | 11:56 |
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slashbel | good afternoon | 11:57 |
zmoylan-pi | so did you get supermacs when over? | 11:58 |
czajkowski | nope | 12:00 |
czajkowski | :( | 12:00 |
czajkowski | did eat in jimmy chungs all you can eat buffet instead | 12:00 |
czajkowski | and hung out at the trinity capital hotel | 12:00 |
slashbel | like old times | 12:00 |
czajkowski | yup :) | 12:01 |
czajkowski | we did have 60 people at the first meet up which was great | 12:01 |
czajkowski | and looking to go back again in september | 12:01 |
slashbel | i'm actually going to be in Dublin in October | 12:02 |
slashbel | there's a linux conference on, that work have suggested i go to | 12:02 |
czajkowski | oh linux conf EU | 12:04 |
czajkowski | yes it's a good one | 12:04 |
czajkowski | I'll be in NYC :( | 12:04 |
slashbel | aye, that's the one | 12:04 |
slashbel | fortunately work are paying | 12:04 |
zmoylan-pi | but you'll be in ny!! :-) | 12:04 |
slashbel | i thought your dog isn't allowing you to leave again? | 12:05 |
czajkowski | he's very uspet :( | 12:09 |
czajkowski | poor little doggy used to me being at home all day | 12:09 |
slashbel | and he's thinking: "why did you punish me? have i been bad?" | 12:11 |
czajkowski | :( | 12:12 |
zmoylan-pi | one of the joys of cats... oh you're back, there's a litter box there with your name on it... | 12:12 |
czajkowski | heh | 12:13 |
slashbel | that's because cats don't care about you | 12:14 |
zmoylan-pi | cats do care, they just are more aloof | 12:14 |
slashbel | cats only care that you're there to feed them and provide warmth | 12:17 |
slashbel | if you died, they would eat you | 12:17 |
slashbel | whereas a dog would wait for you to wake up | 12:17 |
zmoylan-pi | that's cat's been practical. they don't waste anything. very environmental. | 12:18 |
* slashbel really hates cats | 12:18 | |
zmoylan-pi | when a cat brings you a dead mouse it's showing concern that it thinks you can't hunt for yourself | 12:18 |
* zmoylan-pi adores moggies of all sizes | 12:18 | |
slashbel | usually that mouse would not be dead | 12:19 |
slashbel | often it is still alive just enough | 12:19 |
czajkowski | slashbel: so on last weeks internal flight there was 1 dog and 1 cat on board | 12:19 |
zmoylan-pi | it's how cats teach their young. seems cruel but it's merely their way of teaching | 12:19 |
czajkowski | am getting better at keeping an eye out | 12:19 |
czajkowski | seemingly on many internal EU flights you cna bring pets on board also | 12:20 |
czajkowski | so somethjing to keep in mind | 12:20 |
zmoylan-pi | czajkowski you must do enough air miles that you could stand in to do the safety demonstration :-) | 12:20 |
czajkowski | and they dont care if you're allergic or not. thye'll move you so you're not near them | 12:20 |
slashbel | czajkowski: internal British/CTA flight? | 12:20 |
czajkowski | CTA ? | 12:20 |
slashbel | common travel area | 12:20 |
czajkowski | zmoylan-pi: indeed, got given out to last week for not taking my headphones off | 12:20 |
slashbel | UK, Ireland, Isle of Man etc | 12:20 |
czajkowski | asked would it have changed since monday when I listneed to it twice | 12:20 |
czajkowski | not sure htye were so keen on my sarcasim | 12:21 |
czajkowski | slashbel: ah not sure exactly, seen it in france, rome and spain | 12:21 |
slashbel | aye, when you mentioned it earlier i looked up airline rules | 12:21 |
slashbel | it seems the budget carriers are best | 12:22 |
slashbel | ryanair, easyjet, aer lingus, flybe do not allow pets in the cabin | 12:22 |
czajkowski | cool so at least you know now | 12:22 |
slashbel | luft hansa were the only one i could find that permit them | 12:22 |
zmoylan-pi | what about guide dogs? | 12:22 |
czajkowski | allowed | 12:22 |
czajkowski | in the plane | 12:22 |
zmoylan-pi | that doesn't make them not a dog... | 12:23 |
slashbel | aye, thanks for warning me. it never occured to me that people would take cats in the cabin | 12:23 |
slashbel | dogs are fine | 12:23 |
slashbel | i am extremely allergic to cats | 12:23 |
zmoylan-pi | well i've heard a few stories of cats getting lose in the hold. not a creature you want lose in the wiring... | 12:23 |
czajkowski | slashbel: aye and many people are so the airline offers to move you far away from the seat | 12:23 |
slashbel | as in, get me to a hospital when i'm around them for more than a couple of hours | 12:23 |
slashbel | czajkowski: i bet they don't thoroughly clean the plane afterwards | 12:24 |
slashbel | are the cats ever allowed out of their cages, do you know? | 12:24 |
czajkowski | I've never seen any plane immaculate tbh | 12:24 |
czajkowski | slashbel: nope never | 12:24 |
zmoylan-pi | they could easily provide a cat carrier that would prevent hair getting onto the plane and irritating allergic people | 12:24 |
slashbel | good, that fur will just get everywhere | 12:24 |
slashbel | zmoylan-pi: it doesn't irritate me, it stops me breathing | 12:25 |
slashbel | i have been hospitalised several times over it | 12:25 |
slashbel | not something to require when you're airbourne | 12:26 |
* zmoylan-pi is surrounded by cats, feral and land lords. wouldn't be your cup of tea. no mice or rats though | 12:26 | |
slashbel | and even if i don't need hospitalisation, it will take days for me to recover | 12:26 |
slashbel | that's why i'm grateful to czajkowski's warning, i now check an airline's rule | 12:26 |
zmoylan-pi | don't they have a jabs you can give yourself if it ever flares up now? | 12:26 |
slashbel | i have an asthma inhaler | 12:27 |
czajkowski | slashbel: but no epi pen? | 12:27 |
slashbel | it keeps me alive but it takes days to recover, and i'm a pretty fit person | 12:27 |
slashbel | it's not anathalatic shock, it's asthma | 12:28 |
slashbel | most asthma is allergy triggered, unfortunately for a lot of people it's an allergy to dust | 12:28 |
slashbel | at least i can at most times keep cats away | 12:28 |
slashbel | ebel is very helpful and will throw stones at cats for me | 12:28 |
* zmoylan-pi hands slashbel a nerf pistol to deter cats... | 12:28 | |
slashbel | water gun is better, cats hate water | 12:29 |
zmoylan-pi | nerf make water pistols too | 12:29 |
zmoylan-pi | and some cats love water | 12:29 |
slashbel | when we get settled someone, we will get a dog - ebel promised to train it to keep the cats away. horrible things | 12:31 |
zmoylan-pi | weirdly the best thing to keep cats away is another cat. it seems illogical but my father who didn't like cats much got a cat to keep others away, then trained that one to stay away from him | 12:32 |
czajkowski | so I am allergic and scared of cats | 12:34 |
czajkowski | adn sure enough where ever I go | 12:34 |
czajkowski | cats come to me first over someone who love cats | 12:34 |
czajkowski | it's annoying | 12:34 |
zmoylan-pi | cats do seem to be attracted to people who can't abide cats. have never worked that out | 12:34 |
zmoylan-pi | my sister in law is terrified of them. | 12:35 |
slashbel | swinging my boot at them is usually effective | 12:35 |
ebel | it'll be sooooo hard to train a dog to chase cats:P | 12:36 |
zmoylan-pi | it makes them stay out of your way, doesn't make them leave area. cats are +10 stealth | 12:36 |
slashbel | germans don't seem as big into cats | 12:36 |
ebel | czajkowski: just shows. Cats are evil and will go for the weakest person they can sense | 12:36 |
ebel | I saw a neighbour bringing their cat for a walk on a lead a while ago :P | 12:37 |
slashbel | one of our neighbours has one, and takes it for a walk on a leash | 12:37 |
zmoylan-pi | germans do seem to be more dog people. dogs are more logical perhaps to their way of thinking | 12:37 |
slashbel | and it's more logical to have an animal who loves you | 12:38 |
czajkowski | ebel: I ahve no problem in firing a shoe | 12:38 |
zmoylan-pi | cats do love you. just show it different | 12:39 |
czajkowski | gits | 12:39 |
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