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KkoteJust threw this on my Nexus 5. Was wondering what kind of apps/programs you run on it03:04
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dholbachgood morning07:00
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lotuspsychjehttp://linux.softpedia.com/blog/canonical-throws-in-10-000-euro-rewards-for-new-ubuntu-phone-ad-campaign-487922.shtml08:22
pete-woodsjgdx: hey. did you manage to fix that merge conflict in the hotspot MR?08:37
seb128pete-woods, he's on holidays this week08:44
pete-woodsd'oh!08:44
pete-woodsseb128: thanks for letting me know :)08:44
seb128yw08:45
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Milk Chocolate Day! 😃08:54
OerHekswake me up @ dark chocolate day :-D08:55
jibeloSoMoN, morning, do you know the steps to reproduce this crash bug 1478166 ?09:15
ubot5bug 1478166 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/webapp-container:11:oxide::FilePicker::Done:oxide::qt::FilePicker::done:oxide::qquick::FilePickerContext::accept:oxide::qquick::FilePickerContext::qt_static_metacall:oxide::qquick::FilePickerContext::qt_metacall" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147816609:15
oSoMoNjibel, hey, no I’m not sure how to reproduce, alexabreu would know09:20
jibelalexabreu, ^ do you know?09:21
oSoMoNjibel, note that there is a fix pending review, and I’ve asked Alex to add a unit test for it09:21
oSoMoNjibel, he won’t be online for another 3 hours or so09:21
jibeloSoMoN, yeah but I heard some people reporting webbrowser crash and it's the only recent and popular crash I found09:22
jibeljust wondering if it's the msae case09:22
jibelsame*09:22
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mandelseb128, I have tested silo 17 and works perfectly in vivid with krillin, could you take a second look? is an update in udm and that software that depends on it09:32
seb128mandel, ok, sure09:32
mandelseb128, I've also noticed that when we have creds issues the updates are stuck and we get no feedback, is that a known bug?? Do you want me to take a look?09:32
mandelseb128, I "shat my trousers" because the updates did not happen and I though it was udm, readding the u1 account fixed it09:32
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ProstheticShey guys, does the mx4 support mhl output?09:59
popeynot that I'm aware of10:00
ProstheticSive noticed when i pair a usb mouse the screen goes to desktop mode, so pairing a keyboard and then plugging in a monitor is just the next logical step isnt it :p10:01
ProstheticSoh really? damn10:01
popey🙂10:01
ProstheticSi mean, when i pair a bluetooth mouse *10:01
ProstheticSthats a bit crushing, ide have loved to utilised it desktop mode from a screen or whatever, that would have been awesome to play with :(10:08
popeyhm, there are videos showing it working10:08
popeyon android10:08
ProstheticSthats funny, most of the searches ive read say no mhl on flyme (meizu's android)10:09
popeyso maybe I'm wrong10:09
ProstheticSon the mx4 i mean10:09
popeyhttp://www.gsmarena.com/meizu_mx4-6627.php10:09
ProstheticShmm, well i guess its less then 10 pounds to order one of these connectors and give it a whirl :p10:09
popeyheh10:10
ProstheticSi'll give it a shot, coz if so, i already got xmir going on the thing, i could do some funky stuff with a proper monitor10:10
ProstheticSits quite fast actually, i didnt think it was, coz interfface lag and whatnot, but it started some largish apps quite fast once i got em going10:11
ProstheticSfun to playwith :p10:12
popeyneat!10:12
rogro82a simple google cast mirror would also be nice for convergence10:13
ProstheticSi pretty much bought this phone because i could mess with its innards a bit more then any others :p  and ive already started, stuff like automounting sshfs on my server whenever a network is present via dispatcher.d scripts and the last few youtube videos from channels i watch so that i can watch them when on the tube(no coverage)10:15
ProstheticSsyncing photos when sshfs is up back to home10:15
mcphailGiven that cut-the-rope is in the stock image, is it supported by Canonical? It needs to be tweaked so it doesn't autorotate with the phone10:17
rogro82currently in the process of writing a google cast client... first implemented youtube fling and that works nice... now onto casting media... guess it will take some time before it will land in the store though10:18
Dragonkeeperanyone ported mumble to phone ?10:18
Dragonkeeperif im not mistaken it uses c and qt10:19
nhainesNeeds to use QML.  :)10:20
popeyDragonkeeper: don't think so10:20
nhainesQML and C++, I guess.10:21
Dragonkeeperhmm would be a nice addition if its possible10:21
chrischi, i'm trying to find the bug list for the touch web browser but failing...10:22
ogra_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app10:23
chriscogra_: cheers10:23
chriscso, the bug i was looking for has bene fixed in oxide branch-1.9, anyone know when this update might be available for devel on mako? https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/142233910:26
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1422339 in Oxide "Missing API to wire in basic access authentication" [High,Fix released]10:26
chriscoh, what a coincidence!10:26
chriscah, the bot feteched the tile from the url, do'h10:26
popeychrisc: question for dbarth who appears to not be here right now10:30
chriscpopey: thanks10:31
Laneyrenatu: thoughts/objections to pushing e-d-s 3.16 to wily?11:08
zzarrhello! is there a way to serialize/deserialize an object of an class that inherits QObject?11:11
zzarr(I wish to send an object from one application to another and the other application may be on another physical machine)11:13
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guest42345hi all11:56
egon1hi11:56
egon1sombode speaks german language maybe?11:57
ogra_lots of germans do i heard ...11:57
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lotus|touchjoin #ubuntu-discuss11:59
egon1i need a information12:02
ogra_egon1, just ask12:02
egon1it it possible to sent the contakts to a pc12:02
egon1or to a other phone via bluetooth maybe?12:03
ogra_the contacts are stored by evolution-data-server on the phone ... i would guess there is a way to ex/import them from commandline12:04
egon1you'll say thats possible to install a terminal and midnightcommander maybe?12:06
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ogra_the terminal-app is in the store, you can just install it12:07
ogra_(there is also a filemanager-app)12:07
guest42345egon1, sudo apt-get install mc?12:14
ogra_guest42345, well, that means making the system writable first (and losing OTA support)12:14
abeatoLaney, could you review/merge if ok https://code.launchpad.net/~alfonsosanchezbeato/ubuntu/+source/gst-plugins-bad1.0/+git/gst-plugins-bad1.0/+merge/265791 ?12:14
guest42345ogra_, can't i make the system read only after installing mc?12:15
ogra_installing debs should rather be done in a chroot in /home/phablet/12:15
ogra_guest42345, technically, yeah :)12:15
guest42345:wink:12:15
Laneyabeato: sure - does media-hub need to be updated for this or is it ok to upload?12:15
ogra_and for a single package thats actually okayish12:15
guest42345yeah :> mc should be harmless12:16
abeatoLaney, no, no changes in media-hub this time, so you can upload12:16
guest42345can't wait for snappy!!12:16
guest42345))12:16
ogra_:)12:16
abeatoLaney, thanks12:16
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zzarrhello! can I have more than one constructor for a QObject?12:26
zzarrI having problems with it12:27
zzarrI have the standard one "explicit MyClass(QObject *parent = 0)"12:28
ogra_zzarr, try #ubuntu-app-devel12:29
zzarrohh, sorry I didn't realize I was in the #ubuntu channel12:30
zzarrI'll ask in #qt where I intended too12:30
ogra_haha12:31
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egon1i hav installed terminal yet12:48
egon1after sudo -i he will not aceppting 'apt-get install mc12:49
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Alex______hi13:05
ogra_Alex______, you carry quite a tail :)13:06
egon1ogra_: i can ot fin the contacts with the filemanager.. whre exact are the contacts stored?13:06
ogra_i dont know the exact place ... but surely in a hidden dir under /home/phablet ... .config or some such or .local13:07
Alex______please tell me, who be have installed ubuntu touch on phone meizu mx4 (android) by yourself ?13:09
* ogra_ doubts anyone has13:09
egon1its possible to use whatsappweb?13:09
ogra_you would need a flash tool from meizu and an image from them to actually have the phone re-partitioned for ubuntu13:10
zzarrI ordered a MX4 last thursday, the page said 2 weeks how accurate is that?13:10
ogra_egon1, doesnt that only work if an android phone is loged in ?13:10
ogra_(might work, but you would have to carry that android phone along)13:10
egon1i hafe a whatsappacount over genymotionemulator on my linux-pc13:11
egon1and want to use it with the ubuntumobilephone13:11
Alex______ogra_, thanks13:13
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zzarr(I can't wait :) )13:14
renatuLaney, I am ok with that13:18
dale_Can anyone give me (a noob) a hint about how a QtQuick app can control the phone's screen brightness?13:26
ogra_apps cant control the screen (or any other hardware)13:29
ogra_well, not true ... since very recently they can ask for the screen to stay on i heard13:29
ogra_(not sure how though, new feature and not documented yet)13:30
dale_The video player keeps the screen bright?13:30
ogra_well13:31
ogra_the media-hub server does13:31
ogra_not the player app iself13:31
ogra_*itself13:31
dale_Okay, how do I talk to the media hub server?13:31
ogra_https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04/QtMultimedia.qtmultimedia-index/13:33
morphisdoes anyone know why I am missing /var/log/syslog on my vivid based device?13:35
dale_Thanks Ogra, I think I will need to delve into the source of that module.13:36
morphisogra_: any idea?13:38
ogra_morphis, there is a werid bu where /var/log changes ownership13:38
ogra_*bug13:38
morphisto root:android_input?13:39
ogra_yes13:39
ogra_thats the one13:39
morphisbug 1451565 is the one13:39
ubot5bug 1451565 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "/var/log owned by wrong group (android_input) (again)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145156513:39
ogra_yeah13:39
dobeyegon1: i don't think the whatsapp web interface works in the ubuntu phone browser. if you want to use whatsapp on ubuntu phone, the best people to inform of that desire, are WhatsApp themselves, as it is a proprietary app and they are very strict about unofficial clients being used13:39
Elleokenvandine: rebuilt silo 2 with a fix for the failing test on https://code.launchpad.net/~michael-sheldon/ubuntu-keyboard/fix-1477901/+merge/26583913:40
morphisogra_: hm13:40
ogra_morphis, and i have no clue why ... we have hardcoded passwd and group files with fixed UID/GIDs, there is thjeoretically no way that can happen13:41
ogra_(we even have an upstart job that chowns it to the syslog group after updates, just to be sure)13:42
morphishm13:42
egon1mhm13:42
ogra_(but obviously that doesnt hep either)13:42
morphisis it changed back on every boot?13:42
ogra_no, only on upgrades13:42
morphisok13:42
ogra_/etc/init/boot-hooks/ensure-logdir-owner.conf13:43
ogra_    if ! ls -ld /var/log|grep -q syslog; then13:43
ogra_        chown root:syslog /var/log13:43
ogra_    fi13:43
ogra_even by group name13:43
ogra_(hmm, that could use a -R )13:43
ogra_(wont help the issue though)13:44
morphisyeah13:44
morphiswho calls the boot-hooks?13:44
ogra_/etc/init/boot-hooks-emit.conf13:44
ogra_checks /userdata/.last_ubuntu-build against /etc/ubuntu-build ... if they differ, it runs them13:45
morphishm13:46
morphiscould be changed to WHEN=every-boot as workaround13:46
ogra_you could try that ... though the issue only shows up after upgrades13:47
morphisI'll give it a try13:48
ogra_(and indeed you slow down the boot process by several nanoseconds)13:48
davmor2morphis: iirc I saw it if I flashed the same image over an image. For example I'm on image 3 and I use u-d-f to flash image 3 again without wiping data.13:48
morphishm13:48
ogra_well, in that case morphis fix would have helped i guess13:48
morphisogra_, davmor2: did some one check the actual rootfs images?13:49
ogra_morphis, about 1000 times13:49
morphis:)13:49
ogra_this bug exists since 2 years13:49
morphisuh13:49
ogra_we even have code in livecd-rootfs that forces the owner to make 100% sure it is the right one13:49
morphismagic ...13:50
ogra_haha13:50
ogra_with a sledgehammer13:50
AbuDharhey :)13:50
morphisand doesn't help :D13:50
ogra_this bu already produced some of the wridest hacks13:50
ogra_and yes, nothing helped13:50
davmor2ogra_: but do you sacrifice a chicken to the god of hell fire?13:51
AbuDharthe Miezu phone looks good man!13:51
AbuDharI think I am going to buy it.13:51
ogra_davmor2, only goats .... not sure that god takes chicken13:51
davmor2ogra_: there is your mistake, hell fire == chickens, Lucifer == goats it's the whole pecking order thing13:52
ogra_davmor2, please add that info to the bug then so morphis can do the right thing :)13:53
dale_The Miezu phone _is_ good!13:53
AbuDharis this a channel for satanists?13:54
AbuDharwhy are we talking about Lucifer?13:54
ogra_AbuDhar, we talk about hellish bugs :)13:54
AbuDharhmm okay.13:55
AbuDhardale_, do you know the next phone Ubuntu is planning on selling with their software?13:55
dale_No, tell me about it13:55
AbuDharheh I was asking you. I don't know it either.13:56
AbuDharI thought you maybe knew.13:56
dale_Hardware-wise, it's hard to see how the MX4 will be bettered in the near future13:56
AbuDharmaybe the battery? :)13:57
AbuDharhow good is the battery?13:57
dale_Dual sims, SD cards maybe.13:57
dale_The battery...13:57
AbuDharhow many hours on full charge?13:57
AbuDharnormal usage13:57
dale_you have to keep an eye on it with WiFi switched on (and the screen, of course).  Generally it lasts all day no problem...13:58
dale_but if you use it heavily then you may fall short of four hours.13:58
kenvandineElleo, cool, i already tested it :)13:58
kenvandineworked well13:58
* kenvandine comments13:58
Elleokenvandine: okay, cool, thanks13:59
kenvandineElleo, i just had 100% pass :)14:00
Elleokenvandine: awesome :)14:00
Elleokenvandine: is that with your dbus fix branch too?14:00
kenvandineyes14:00
Elleocool14:00
kenvandineand like 4 other branches14:00
dale_In normal use it will easily go from 9:00am to 7:00pm, so spans a working day.14:00
kenvandineElleo, amazing the can of worms this opened :/14:00
Elleoheh, yeah14:00
kenvandinethese all passed before the OSK change :/14:01
kenvandinebut most of my fixes had nothing to do with it... but they were clearly issues14:01
Elleoyeah, and the OSK's internal tests were all fine, so it's good that we've uncovered things there too by using it more extensively14:02
mandelkenvandine, silo 17 is ready for QA, I was stuck due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1378678 thinking it was my fault14:04
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1378678 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu RTM) "updates panel doesn't deal with invalid u1 tokens" [Critical,Confirmed]14:04
kenvandinemandel, ah, ok14:04
kenvandinethx14:04
mandelkenvandine, I did not try to delete my creds, was debugging and found out, what a waste of time :(14:05
kenvandinebummer14:05
kal_cividFajdidahello, I have bq Aquaris E5 - free Smartphone of 5 \" (Cortex A7, WiFi , Bluetooth , 1 GB of RAM , 16 GB of internal memory, Ubuntu ):14:10
kal_cividFajdidaSome guide to form it, where to obtain repositories.14:10
popeykal_cividFajdida: I dont understand the question, what do you want to do?14:10
guest42345popey, he uants reposatoris14:11
guest42345four phone14:12
popeythat's not any more clear.14:12
popeyI'm asky what kal_cividFajdida wants to _do_14:12
guest42345hesus christ qml is crazier than me14:13
guest42345i'm coding a silly game in qml14:13
guest42345wish me luck14:13
kal_cividFajdidapopey: I look for information to configure the telephone. Configure sources.list.14:14
kal_cividFajdidainstall program from sources.list14:14
popeykal_cividFajdida: the phone is read-only by default.14:14
popeykal_cividFajdida: http://askubuntu.com/questions/399709/install-with-sudo-app-get-install-doesnt-work-not-using-locking-for-read-only14:14
davmor2kal_cividFajdida: the phone uses click to install stuff no apt, just look in the store14:15
popeyIf you make the phone read-write, it can break later, and you may need to re-flash it again14:15
popeyWe generally don't recommend doing it, unless you're a developer, and are happy re-flashing it again.14:15
popeyalso, many of the things in the repo you could install wont actually work14:17
kal_cividFajdidapopey: davmor2 : thank. Go shit¡¡¡14:17
* ogra_ recommends usin a chroot in /home/phablet for deb packages 14:17
ogra_or an lxc container14:18
Laneyrenatu: ta, will probably do after alpha 214:19
renatuLaney, ok thanks14:21
seb128ogra_, do you still plan to land the lxc-android-config fix from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/whoopsie-preferences/+bug/1437633 ?14:24
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1437633 in lxc-android-config (Ubuntu) "Choosing not to report crashes and errors setting reverts" [High,Confirmed]14:24
ogra_seb128, h, did nobody land that yet14:24
seb128pmcgowan, ^ I think the fix released status is wrong14:24
seb128ogra_, no, I don't think so, and we just got another duplicatge14:24
ogra_seb128, not sure i can get to it this week ... cant promise14:26
pmcgowanseb128, yeah was looking for that, someone just reproted it again14:28
seb128pmcgowan, yeah, I just dupped it14:28
pmcgowanseb128, but I cant repro it, prolly cuase I set rw at some point or something14:28
seb128pmcgowan, right, likely14:29
seb128you are still rw? or you are ro?14:29
pmcgowanro now and its fine14:29
seb128weird14:29
pmcgowanwas going to try to reflash and see14:29
pmcgowanjeez that bug is open a long time14:29
pmcgowanwho else can land it14:30
ogra_yeah, it was always dumped in prio over several OTAs14:30
seb128pmcgowan, let me try to have a look now14:30
ogra_and lxc-android-config is a no-fun landing14:30
* ogra_ would have asked morphis, but this package is really nothing for a first landing 14:31
jibelwe already tried to land once but it failed verification in april14:31
morphisogra_: did a landing for it already14:31
ogra_oh,. ok :)14:31
jibelbut the MP looks more recent, so maybe reland it if it has been updated14:32
seb128morphis, can you do another one for that bug? ;-)14:33
morphisseb128: for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/whoopsie-preferences/+bug/1437633?14:34
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1437633 in lxc-android-config (Ubuntu) "Choosing not to report crashes and errors setting reverts" [High,Confirmed]14:34
seb128morphis, yes14:34
morphisseb128: for vivid?14:34
seb128morphis, yes14:35
ogra_jibel, i think it was also paired with another fix back when it failed14:35
seb128pmcgowan, ogra_, jibel, morphis, we probably need to land that in the ppa as well, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/207170546/whoopsie-preferences_0.16_0.17.diff.gz14:35
ogra_+114:35
pmcgowanyes14:35
morphisseb128: that is in wily to?14:37
jibelogra_, yeah, that's my recollection too and there was no further attempt14:37
seb128morphis, that's already in wily yes14:37
morphisok, so we just have to sync both packages over to the vivid pppa14:37
ogra_iirc that wont work14:39
ogra_because whoopsie behaves differently in the two releases14:39
ogra_hmm14:39
ogra_or was that RTM vs vivid14:39
ogra_(there was a reason we initially developed two different patches but i cant remember what it was anymore)14:41
LaneyThe changes I mentioned in #28 haven't happened in wily it seems BTW14:42
Laney#2214:42
seb128Laney, those are not needed for the upstart boot from the phone, right?14:44
seb128well, 2/ I mean14:44
seb128the lxc-android change is what we are talking about14:44
LaneyWhy not?14:48
LaneyI mean, maybe I forgot the details, but I think they are?14:48
LaneyYou need something to set the symlink up for the writable_filename thing to do14:48
Laneys/do/work/14:48
Laney(but mainly I wanted to point out that the fix isn't finished even in wily)14:50
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kal_cividFajdidaHow install a S.Or. debian In ubuntu phone ? Some guia known?14:51
kal_cividFajdidaHow install a S.O. debian In ubuntu phone ? Some guia known?14:51
ogra_kal_cividFajdida, you are speaking in riddles14:53
ogra_(try a complete sentence without abbreviations perhaps)14:53
kal_cividFajdidaogra_: riddles ? what is?14:58
ogra_your last two lines are14:58
popeywhois kal_cividFajdida15:02
OerHeksWhat is S.O debian, kal_cividFajdida ?15:02
kal_cividFajdidaSystem operative = S.O. debian15:03
ogra_so you want to install debian instead of ubuntu on a phone ?15:04
davmor2kal_cividFajdida: you ask debian to create a phone15:04
kal_cividFajdidapopey: OerHeks15:05
kal_cividFajdidacreate, not. install S.O. debian intro ubunto phone.15:05
JanCI assume that by "System operative" you mean "operating system"?15:06
morphisseb128, ogra_: its better then someone does the the upload to vivid who knows what has to be sync and what the fix is15:07
davmor2kal_cividFajdida: Ubuntu on a phone is not the same as Debian on a pc, you would have to ask debian to create a phone version of their operating system and then once they created that you would be free to install if on a phone they supported15:08
davmor2s/if/it15:08
ogra_you can indeed create a debian chroot in /home/phablet though15:10
ogra_using debootstrap15:10
kal_cividFajdidain android I install debian XLC. No free android. Install O.S. And ubuntu phone no free. I want to install debian how operating System together ubuntu-phone15:11
ogra_what do you mean by "ubuntu phone no free" ?15:12
ogra_it is all GPL (except for a few drivers)15:13
mariogripwhen is Oxide branch-1.9 gonna be released to the wily repo?15:14
kal_cividFajdidaogra_: W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock   E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/   E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.15:14
ogra_kal_cividFajdida, you can make it writable but then OTA updates will break ... nothing stops you to do that though15:15
morphisseb128: you're working on ubuntu-system-settings, right?15:16
ogra_you can have only either package based updates or image based updates ... both together will not work ... the phone is built for image based upgrades15:16
ogra_you are free to do anything you want :)15:17
ogra_(but it will eventually break)15:17
davmor2kal_cividFajdida: this is because the Operating system is read only, popey already pointed you at a link to make it writable, but that will likely break your system on the next ota, again which you were told earlier by popey.  It's not that the system isn't free or open, the system is locked so binary diffs are functional for updates.15:17
kal_cividFajdidaahhh ¡¡¡¡ no recomended. I have not deep knowledge in systems GLP . I am 98 % of the population.15:18
seb128morphis, yes15:18
morphisseb128: is there a reason why you are doing sync calls to connect a bluetooth device?15:18
kal_cividFajdidain ubuntu phone15:19
morphisseb128: saw the settings app hanging for some seconds multiple times now15:21
seb128morphis, not that I know, charles wrote that code, maybe he had a reason ... if you have patches feel free to send them our way for review ;-)15:23
charlesseb128, morphis, in a meeting atm, will read my scrollback here afterwards15:24
morphischarles: thanks15:24
morphisseb128: basically nobody is evaluating any return result so doesn't make sense to me15:24
ogra_btw, notre that we have obex ... and it even works to share files around ... just not stable15:26
ogra_rsalveti implemented that ages ago15:26
ogra_(but nobody ever fixed its remaining bugs)15:26
morphisogra_: who handles the obex requests?15:30
morphisubuntu-system-settings?15:30
ogra_you have to ask rsalveti, but iirc it worked without having any UI app open15:30
ogra_should just be bluetoothd15:31
ogra_this was definitely not finished ... but i remember seeing it working at least once15:31
pmcgowanogra_, morphis yes I was running that for a while, but it lacked UI15:32
morphiswould it be some indicator who then takes up the UI for that?15:33
charlesmorphis, I try to not write sync bus calls and don't recall putting any in the bluetooth setting panel; maybe that was added later?15:33
charlesmorphis, yes, if you have a patch I'd be happy to review & use it15:34
morphischarles: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~system-settings-touch/ubuntu-system-settings/trunk/view/head:/plugins/bluetooth/device.cpp#L16615:34
* rsalveti looks15:35
rsalvetimorphis: there is no ui handling it atm15:35
rsalvetiit's basically used to share contacts when you pair it with a car15:35
rsalvetiyou can use to share files, but currently in a specific location15:36
morphischarles: my expection would be us doing just an async call and just take notice about the result later on as the device state will change anything which we will then process15:36
morphisrsalveti: yeah I know15:36
rsalvetiideally we'd have to work on a UI to get it to accept the requests and so on15:36
morphisright15:36
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rsalvetiogra_: so it seems the device tarball from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/vivid/daily-preinstalled/pending/ are not actually produced by the android src package we have in the ppa (overlay)15:38
rsalvetiawe_ just saw that last week15:39
rsalvetijust extract the content from the mako one, and it's  ro.build.version.incremental=20141117-0039-0ubuntu1115:39
ogra_ugh15:39
rsalvetiinstead of  20150519-2220-0ubuntu515:39
rsalvetiwhich is the latest from https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay15:39
rsalvetiogra_: since the ppa gets used when building the image, we might be missing something here15:39
seb128charles, sorry, looking to https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~system-settings-touch/ubuntu-system-settings/trunk/annotate/head:/plugins/bluetooth/device.cpp it seems that code is a mix from you and cyphermox so maybe cyphermox is the one who did those bits15:40
ogra_well, sil2100 could just regulary pull in the wily binaries15:40
awe_rsalveti, I'll re-ask the question from our priv chat.  why does udf report a feb date for the mako dev tarballs, when in reality it's from last nov?15:40
charlesmorphis, looks like this code was added by cyphermox when he added a lot of functionality to it in mid-201215:40
charlesseb128, right15:40
awe_ogra_, for rtm?15:40
rsalveti20141117-0039-0ubuntu1115:40
ogra_awe_, for vivid+overlay15:40
rsalvetimaybe a package rebuild (without changes)15:40
awe_got it15:40
rsalvetidevice=2015021015:41
rsalvetiat that date15:41
awe_yup15:41
charlesseb128, morphis, so let's ask cyphermox if it needed to be that way because $reasons, or if substituting in an async call would work15:41
ogra_rsalveti, hmm, doesnt that 20141117-0039-0ubuntu11 get created from the debian version ? ... seems plausible that the upstream version is from nov15:41
rsalvetiogra_: that is from the package version used15:42
rsalvetifrom the android package15:42
ogra_ro.build.version.incremental=20141117-0039-0ubuntu11 i meant15:42
rsalvetihttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/android15:42
rsalvetiit's the latest from vivid, from the archive15:42
ogra_so the last upstream checkout/merge was in november15:42
rsalvetithe issue is that it's not consuming the android package that is in the overlay15:42
ogra_and then 11 changes we made to it15:43
rsalvetihttps://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay15:43
rsalvetifrom 20150519-2220-0ubuntu515:43
rsalvetifor whatever cdimage specific reason :-)15:43
ogra_hmm, might be a livecd-rootfs issue15:43
rsalvetiogra_: right15:43
ogra_        mv "${sourceslist}" "${sourceslist}.orig"15:44
ogra_        mv "${sourceslist}.d" "${sourceslist}.d.orig"15:44
ogra_        echo "deb $LB_PARENT_MIRROR_CHROOT ${LB_DISTRIBUTION} main universe multiverse restricted" >$sourceslist15:44
ogra_        Chroot chroot "apt-get -y update"15:44
* rsalveti will get some food15:44
ogra_        Chroot chroot "apt-get -y install android"15:44
ogra_:)15:44
rsalvetiright15:44
ogra_probably because that doesnt use PPAs :)15:44
rsalvetineed to include the ppa15:45
ogra_yep15:45
ogra_time we get an official US device so we can drop mako15:45
* ogra_ hides from things anyone in this channel could throw at him :)15:45
cyphermoxcharles: morphis: I don't see why it couldn't be an async call, I don't recall why I changed it from async to sync15:59
morphiscyphermox: maybe I see something in the history15:59
cyphermoxthere may have been some timing issues before we got bluetooth properly stabilized16:00
mhall119bzoltan_: Kaleo: does the SDK support changing the gridunit/px ratio at runtime?16:07
mhall119greyback_ and I were just discussing some issues with plugging a phone into a larger HDMI display, and one thing that is needed is to change that value to what it should be for the external display16:07
greyback_mhall119: well I can answer that: no it doesn't support it :) It's defined by an environment variable at the moment16:08
greyback_but if it can be made to change at runtime, I'm unsure. Probably it can16:09
ogra_rsalveti, awe_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/11954314/ ... but i'm not sure if the PPA setup is still in place at this point, i guess that would need a few test builds (and it would indeed first have to land in vivid at all)16:09
mhall119greyback_: well that might just be to get the initial value16:09
bzoltan_greyback_: thanks for being fast16:09
greyback_mhall119: it's not. I know that code :)16:09
mhall119well the good news is that everybody outside of the SDK should be using units.gu, not the environment variable16:10
greyback_mhall119: the value for GU that units.gu contains is read from the env var16:10
mhall119I don't know if changing that will trigger events that will update the app's UI, but if it could that would be magic16:10
greyback_mhall119: in theory it should16:11
bzoltan_mhall119:  greyback_: we need a dbus service for doing dynamic gu adaptation16:11
jfredUhh... so this is rather unnerving. I just had messages in the messaging app displayed as coming from the wrong contact.16:11
jfredHas anyone else experienced this?16:11
jfredNexus 4, OS build #2116:12
bzoltan_mhall119: greyback_: it is not a black magic ... very doable. We have talked about it several times in the sDK team. If the use case is string enough I can push the priority higher.16:12
greyback_bzoltan_: either dbus, or mir could provide the IPC for that. It would be a value per screen.16:13
mhall119greyback_: how would per-screen work, if the app was shown on more than one screen at the same time?16:16
greyback_mhall119: the compositor would have to zoom the app window to suit whatever GU it does not match with16:17
mhall119sounds tricky, so the app will have to tell the compositor what it's GU value is? Or willthe compositor have to keep track of what it's told each app to use?16:19
* ogra_ thinks we should just make all apps fullscreen and sell the spare space for ads :)16:20
greyback_mhall119: the compositor will tell the window which screen it is on. Each screen will have a GU value associated. Compositor will know this info, and have to figure out a zoom based on the app's current GU, and the GU of the display it is visible on.16:20
ogra_GU issue solved ... and we have a new business model16:20
mhall119ogra_: haven't you been quoted enough this week?16:21
ogra_LOL16:21
davmor2jfred: known issue beening worked on16:27
jfreddavmor2: Great, thanks - I was looking through the bug reports for messaging-app but didn't see an existing bug report for it at first glance16:29
* ogra_ glares at jcastro 16:29
morphisseb128, charles, cyphermox: but let me see if I can rework that as I go16:29
bzoltan_ogra_: I have proposed an ad daemon and ad component in the UITK some time ago... was not popular idea. But I still beleive that controlled ad traffic is better than random spam on the screen.16:35
ogra_bzoltan_, nah, i want random spam ... but yeah, an ad daemon could help :=16:36
ogra_:)16:36
davmor2wait you want to add a spam daemon that's evil......why didn't I think of it :)16:47
ogra_davmor2, well, if you fullscreen a mobile app on a desktop there is a lot free space in the app ... so the toolkit should just fill that space with "proper content" ;)16:49
jfreddavmor2: Do you happen to know where I could find the bug report for that issue? I'd like to keep an eye on it.16:51
davmor2jfred: not off hand16:51
jfredoh wait I think I found it - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/messaging-app/+bug/147376116:52
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1473761 in Canonical System Image "SMS from A appear as to have been sent from B" [High,In progress]16:52
davmor2jfred: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1476833 I think it might be this one16:53
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1476833 in Canonical System Image "wrong contact name is displayed for phone number" [High,In progress]16:53
ndechi there, on an armhf system, i am trying to rebuild gst-plugins-bad, and it fails to build from source (http://hastebin.com/akagaqaxix.rb). that seems to be related to the 'android' stuff that went into gst. my armhf system is not using MIR/android, just a debootsrap based rootfs16:58
ogra_Laney, jhodapp, could you guys help ndec ?16:59
ndecis that expected? i would expect any package to build with apt-get build-dep <foo>, apt-get source <foo>, and then dpkg-buildpackage16:59
ndeci am using vivid rootfs.16:59
ogra_i assume there is an optiojn to disable the hybris parts for a build16:59
ndeci am not expecting any package to fail to build though.. so maybe there is something i am missing too..17:00
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charlesmorphis, cool17:07
Laneyndec: are you building with the "overlay" PPA too?17:07
ndecno.17:07
ndecwell, i don't know what it is, so i guess no.17:08
ogra_no, you dont17:08
ndecLaney: i actually want to build a non ubuntu-touch armhf system.17:08
LaneyWell I'm not aware that it should fail to build in vivid17:08
Laneydoesn't mean that it doesn't but if that's the case then it'd be a bug17:10
ogra_Laney, well, the version in the pastebin doesnt look like vivid, more recent17:10
Laneywhat gives you that clue?17:11
ndecogra_: vivid has 1.4.5-1ubuntu217:11
ogra_ah17:11
ogra_i thought 1.4.5 was new17:11
ogra_ignore me then :)17:12
Laneyndec: Looks like it does fail, that's a bug17:16
Laneyndec: You could try --disable-android_media_hybris (I think) to build without it17:17
ndecLaney: ah.. cool.17:17
LaneyThen might have to hack the packaging to not try to install that stuff17:17
ndeci don't need it anyways..17:17
ndeci can take care of that..17:17
Laneygot to go, good luck!17:18
rsalvetindec: Laney: I believe the mir/platform-api dependencies are also busted in vivid17:47
rsalvetithat's the same issue we had on wily17:48
rsalvetindec: yeah, just disable it and you should be good17:48
rsalvetiogra_: we could as well just push that new live-build to the overlay ppa17:48
rsalvetiincluding a diff similar to yours17:49
ndecrsalveti: Laney : i added "--disable-android_media_hybris" in debian/rules and removed armhf from android_hybris_archs. it built fine. i have packaging issues, but they were expected. need to clean debian/control now17:49
rsalvetiright, indeed17:49
ndecwhat's the new live build thing?17:49
jhodappndec, cool17:49
rsalvetithere is a gst-hybris package as well17:49
rsalvetindec: oh, that is for a different issue17:50
ndecrsalveti: right. dh_install: gstreamer1.0-hybris missing files (debian/tmp/usr/lib/*/gstreamer-1.0/libgstandroidmedia.so), aborting17:50
ndecah..ok.17:50
ndecrsalveti: btw, does all this hybris stuff have to be in -bad? you couldn't make your own plugins-set instead?17:50
rsalvetindec: atm it's sharing quite a bit of code with the native android plugin that is already there17:52
rsalvetiwhich is why it's also part of that package17:52
rsalvetiwe still need to upstream our changes, that would naturally help as well17:53
rsalvetias Laney said, this is indeed a real packaging bug that we had, need an sru for it17:53
ndecrsalveti: Laney: i think i am good to go with this debdiff: http://hastebin.com/xogehisufa. i have a few other changes, not related to this. but at least you can see my changes.18:01
ndeci will test that tomorrow..18:01
pmcgowandobey, hi I am confused as to whether we thought this was fixed or not https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1378678 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/141365518:08
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1378678 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu RTM) "updates panel doesn't deal with invalid u1 tokens" [Critical,Confirmed]18:08
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1413655 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu RTM) "Updates panel does not prompt for login when U1 account is invalid/deleted" [High,Triaged]18:08
pmcgowanare we not handling failed logins?18:08
dobeypmcgowan: i guess it doesn't handle failed logins. i don't really know that code18:09
dobeymore a question for kenvandine i guess?18:09
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dobeythe second bug is fixed though, as indicated in the bug18:10
pmcgowandobey, ok I saw your name there so thought you may know18:10
dobeyoh it never landed in ubuntu-rtm branch there18:10
pmcgowanit landed in vivid though18:10
dobeypmcgowan: well, the u1-credentials library doesn't know if the HTTP requests succeeded or failed, the app has to handle those cases and do the right thing18:11
pmcgowandobey, seems the title is wrong for this symptom then18:11
dobeyyeah; but the rtm task was still open. i just marked it won't fix for rtm18:11
dobeypmcgowan: well, the title of that first bug is correct18:12
pmcgowandobey, arent those the same bug?18:12
dobeybut perhaps not specific enough18:12
dobeyno they are not the same bug18:12
dobeythe second bug was the system settings panel not handling when the token was automatically deleted on the phone in the background18:13
dobeythat first bug is that system settings isn't handling the error conditions of the HTTP requests to the updates server properly18:13
pmcgowanah ok, seems we should maybe fix that18:13
kenvandinepmcgowan, i thought that was fixed, but i guess not18:15
kenvandinei think that was something diego had said he was going to fix18:16
pmcgowankenvandine, ok, just assigned to you, no need to thank me18:16
kenvandinepmcgowan, :-D18:16
pmcgowanseems we fixed one case but not the one folks are htting now18:16
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clevrpwnis there any reason the nexus 9 isn't officially supported for ubuntu touch?18:23
beunoclevrpwn, yes, engineering focus on hardware that is shipping with Ubuntu pre-installed18:24
clevrpwnbruno that's what I figured, but it really shouldn't be a problem to port it should it? there's not a port at the moment18:25
clevrpwnbruno sorry wow dyslexic today18:25
clevrpwnokay nope that's autocorrect18:26
beunoclevrpwn, I'm not sure, the devil is always in the details18:26
beunosometimes drivers are based on a newer AOSP18:27
beunosometimes there's special tricks to get it to boot18:27
clevrpwnis arm64 supported? I'm assuming that lies in the android base18:27
beunoyeah, arm64 is likely fine18:27
beunothere's a porting guide18:28
beunoI think nobody in the community has taken it on18:28
beunoit sometimes takes time for devices to be widespread enough that people start caring enough to invest work18:28
popeyarm64 isn't supported yet AIUI18:28
beunoCanonical is focused on enabling devices that ship with Ubuntu18:28
clevrpwnyeah of, just ordered one figured I'd build for it18:29
popeynot even android does arm64 well18:29
popeyour stuff doesn't work on android L which the nexus 9 ships with18:29
clevrpwnpopey thanks18:29
popeythere's a fair amount of work to do before that will work18:29
popeynp18:29
clevrpwnI mean in theory you could install the next desktop over the top of the ubuntu ARM64 though right?18:31
popeywe don't have an ubuntu arm64 image18:32
clevrpwnyeah you do it's for servers18:33
clevrpwnhttp://www.cnx-software.com/2014/12/28/ubuntu-nexus-9-tablet/18:33
rogro82currently working on a google cast client and doing device discovery using a very basic mdns implementation... i guess it would be better to handle mdns device discovery through avahi... question is does a confined policy allow me to use avahi client or should i just stick with what i have now?18:39
mhall119rogro82: does avahi client need access to anything other than the network?18:47
mhall119you may have to ship the client library, but if it just needs network access you should be fine as far as convergence is concerned18:47
kenvandinemandel, looking at fixing bug 1378678, but i should fix it based on the fix-network-errors branch18:47
ubot5bug 1378678 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu RTM) "updates panel doesn't deal with invalid u1 tokens" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137867818:47
kenvandinemandel, did you ever look into why the fix-network branch failed?18:48
rogro82mhall119: avahi client works over d-bus, but shouldnt need more then a network connection as its just a basic multicast responder18:51
rogro82ill just give it a test and if it works on a device ill use avahi else ill just stick with the current implementation for now.. thanks18:54
rsalvetindec: looks fine18:56
mandelkenvandine, no, but I can do :)20:45
mandelkenvandine, I can get back to you in the CET morning with a fix, or is it too late?20:45
kenvandinemandel, i have a branch that should handle the 401 and 403 which has a prereq on the network-errors branch21:02
kenvandinehttps://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/fix-1378678/+merge/26615121:02
mandelkenvandine, ok, perfect, I'll fix that guy :)21:02
mandelkenvandine, let me finish some testing I'm doing at the moment and I'll take a look21:03
kenvandinemandel, i don't recall what was wrong with the fix-network branch21:03
kenvandinemandel, no rush21:03
mandelkenvandine, I can check, no worries :)21:03
kenvandineok, thx21:03
mandelkenvandine, I little rush, I hate that bug, it made me think I broke system settings21:03
mandelkenvandine, the bastard! ;)21:03
kenvandinei'll be away for a couple hours, gotta go work out21:03
kenvandineindeed :)21:03
kenvandinei'll check back later, or tomorrow :)21:04
kenvandinemandel, thx21:04
mandelkenvandine, perfect, if you see anything else I can help with let me know21:04
dobeykenvandine: you need to actually delete the credentials21:05
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wanna_buy_bq_e5i want to buy a bq aquarius e5, but i dont know. do u answer customer questions here. or is this a dev-channel :)22:01
wanna_buy_bq_e5when i buy a bq e5, do i use ubuntus repositorie?22:02
wanna_buy_bq_e5s22:02
popeywanna_buy_bq_e5: hello22:03
wanna_buy_bq_e5hi22:03
popeythe image on the bq e5 is built from packages in the repos22:03
popeywhat exactly do you need?22:03
wanna_buy_bq_e5hmm, i like use the phone at least as a phone, but for instance can i do video-chat over wlan ?22:07
popeywe dont have a video chat yet22:07
wanna_buy_bq_e5voip?22:07
popeynot yet22:09
wanna_buy_bq_e5but its planned for some day?22:11
popeyyes22:12
wanna_buy_bq_e5which day? :)22:12
wanna_buy_bq_e5far away? in sight?22:12
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