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ali1234does virtualbox support pci passthrough on linux?00:18
mapppsHI ALL05:17
mapppsoops05:17
diddledanI really should sleep this week05:37
mapppssomeone get me some ac05:40
mappps;[[05:40
knightwisehey mappps06:10
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.06:13
diddledanallo06:14
brobostigonhi diddledan06:16
knightwisehey guyzzz06:16
brobostigoney knightwise06:16
mapppshey knightwise06:16
mappps;)06:16
mapppsso hot here again..neeeed ac06:16
knightwiseCold and windy up here06:18
mapppsits hard to sleep06:21
mapppsdue to heat06:21
zmoylan-piyou are in a hot climate, why don't you have ac?06:22
mapppsit's not standard06:27
mapppsboth in spain and here in gib06:27
mapppsmost places dont have ac..my friend bought a portable one off amazn..said its great06:27
mapppsand im planning on doing the same too06:27
zmoylan-pisaw plans for cheap homemade version06:28
zmoylan-pihttp://www.instructables.com/id/Cheap-DIY-Air-Conditioner/ a few hours of cool air...06:31
mapppsnice06:33
zmoylan-pinot much call for ac in ireland :-)06:35
zmoylan-pi[Dublin, DUB, Ireland] Condition: Mostly Cloudy | Temp: 11C/52F/284K/511R | Humidity: 88% | Wind Speed 15mph/24kmph06:36
zmoylan-pi[Gibraltar, Gibraltar] Condition: Fair | Temp: 26C/79F/299K/538R | Humidity: 54% | Wind Speed 9mph/14kmph06:36
mapppssurprising more people dont buy portBLE ac they just suffer06:37
mapppsuh06:37
DJonesHeh https://goo.gl/uvTGTt (Safe for work)06:52
MooDoomorning all07:06
SuperMattmorning07:11
MooDoohow are you supermatt?07:14
SuperMattI'm well thanks, you?07:18
MooDooyeah good thanks :)07:30
davmor2Morning all08:13
zmoylan-pihappy !monday08:14
MooDoohowdy davmor208:14
Knightworkmorning peeps08:20
MooDoohowdy Knightwork08:20
Knightworkhey MooDoo ,08:21
Knightworkhow are things goin today08:21
Knightwork /join #xps1308:24
MooDooKnightwork: yeah ok thanks, just playing about with my storage server08:29
davmor2MooDoo: Classic from the mamas and the papas this morning :)08:29
davmor2MooDoo: mostly due to seeing the sky colour this morning :)08:30
MooDoodavmor2: i've just randomely picked a playlist, don't think i've heard of half the artists08:30
davmor2MooDoo: that's why you need my morning head song play list in your life, you'll know them all :D08:31
MooDooyeah i usually listen to that08:33
KnightworkI'm going to use bittorrent sync and a raspberry pi to do some offsite backups08:33
Knightworkbeen having some issues giving bittorrent sync the correct rights to a mounted external drive08:36
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diddledanis it lunch time yet?08:51
zmoylan-pi3 times zones to the east it is08:51
Knightworkhmmm.. wondering if I can wear this to work ; http://www.amazon.de/Herren-Baumwolle-gemischt-Fashionable-Asymmetric/dp/B00LFBDUQY/ref=pd_rhf_se_s_cp_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0288WGZVWCQ6ZZ367BV508:52
KnightworkIts on the very fringes of ' a blazer ' but only misses a sonic screwdriver to become a dr who outfit08:52
zmoylan-pidefinitely from the sci fi end of the wardrobe08:53
zmoylan-pimore a baddie leader of the week though08:53
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Milk Chocolate Day! 😃08:54
zmoylan-pibecause all those red bulls weren't enough reason to cut your foot off08:55
Knightworkzmoylan-pi: it is rather special indeed08:56
KnightworkI have this one though. http://www.amazon.de/Keral-Beil%C3%A4ufiger-Unregelm%C3%A4%C3%9Figer-Clipping-Kn%C3%B6pfe/dp/B00RHIWHHW/ref=pd_rhf_se_s_cp_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=0N4APZ792AB67C1NNHGZ08:57
diddledanJamesTait: now that's a day I can get behind!08:57
davmor2JamesTait: http://rlv.zcache.com/the_perfect_week_eat_chocolate_funny_gift_v01_foremostcountdownbox-r3fe488890bbf4d918cdcc4408b59d019_z8lbw_324.jpg?rlvnet=109:07
* JamesTait wholeheartedly approves09:07
* Knightwork doesnt like chocolate09:07
davmor2Knightwork: Get out of here, get out now ;)09:08
davmor2JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-GkwIRbLw809:09
* JamesTait nabs Knightwork's chocolate.09:09
davmor2Knightwork: that is nearly as bad as saying you don't like cats09:09
KnightworkI'm Belgian .. i should LOVE chocolate09:09
Knightworkdavmor2: i'm a dog person (but we do have a cat)09:10
Knightworkhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/knightwise/20047250625/09:10
* Knightwork has a Doge09:10
JamesTaitdavmor2, https://youtu.be/3sV6DjrYdr8?t=26s09:14
diddledanKnightwork: that's a propper doge doge, too09:22
davmor2JamesTait: there is something wrong with you isn't there ;)09:23
JamesTaitdavmor2, nothing a holiday won't cure. Probably.09:23
Knightworkdiddledan: yep . she is shedding right now , that is why she looks a little thin09:24
zmoylan-piroll on winter09:24
Knightworkyep .. you won't believe the amount of fur they shedd09:26
diddledanJamesTait: davmor2: it took me 2 minutes of watching that before I realised it was eating my brain09:26
davmor2diddledan: no it wasn't it was eating choco choco latte09:27
diddledanI'm gonna have that in my head all day now09:27
diddledandavmor2: find it on spotify and add it to the morning-head list :-p09:27
diddledanbut seriously, there should be health warnings on that09:28
davmor2diddledan: mamas and papas this morning is still protecting me from it, might be different in the morning09:29
davmor2Knightwork: My moneys still on this cat https://photos.google.com/u/0/photo/AF1QipOydiJj0fBPv7ITkOoFw7V-J3opUWmGR85zCl8j ;)09:33
Knightworkdav, bad link09:33
davmor2Knightwork: https://goo.gl/photos/MNRYdjNkxyiugR9d8 try that09:34
Knightworkdavmor2: if that is your cat it explains the state of your face09:35
davmor2Knightwork: No it's one of the cats I sponsor can't really have pets here09:36
* zmoylan-pi makes do with landlords cats and loads of ferals around09:39
cocoa117is there a way to appear to be login to a mchine through SSH and background the  process? E.g. the w would show you login?10:18
davmor2we see lots of pets at the caravan park at the weekend :)10:18
zmoylan-piseems cruel for the cats... :-)10:30
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)10:33
davmor2zmoylan-pi: they love it, and the tortoises and the rabbits as well as the dogs10:35
Myrtticocoa117: sure, hold on10:38
davmor2morning bigcalm10:38
bigcalmo/10:38
cocoa117Myrtti, :)10:39
davmor2bigcalm: what's your opinion on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYluMAO1b7Y10:39
bigcalmdavmor2: no real opinion. Not in the mood for that type of music right now.10:40
davmor2bigcalm: try this then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oFMEeftF7810:40
Myrtticocoa117: -f10:41
Myrtticocoa117: man ssh row 113 (-N and -n) might be useful too10:42
davmor2anybody else here really want to hear Kate Bush re sing running up that hill but with the placibo music11:10
mgdmI'd rather not hear Kate Bush sing at all11:11
zmoylan-pishe had a few good tunes11:13
diddledanyey for long-running processes - I've just started a job which should only take about 20 hours to complete11:14
diddledansplecifically I'm doing some geocoding11:14
diddledanI've put artificial delays of ~30 seconds between each attempt so as to hopefully not fall foul of google's api limits11:15
zmoylan-pihee, did that when i wrote an sms server way back :-) too many sms and the number would be blocked automatically11:17
zmoylan-pinever mind it was from a company account going to only numbers also on the same account.  engineers been sent tasks and info relating to those tasks, originally by pager and then sms11:18
Laneyruddy ninja carding11:57
LaneyI had the radio on so he could have heard I was in11:57
Myrttininja postman?11:58
Laneyindeed12:01
TwistedLucidityLaney: Royal Mail rarely delivers parcels these days. It's more efficient for them to post the card and have to slog out to the sorting office12:01
Laneyalso the royal mail's redelivery form helpfully goes back a stage (losing all the entered data) if you press 'enter'12:01
czajkowskiugh12:01
LaneyTwistedLucidity: this is supposed to be a perk of working from home!12:01
TwistedLucidityLaney: But you have so much time to drive to the sorting office!12:02
LaneyPSH, PSH I SAY12:02
TwistedLucidityI find DPD to be the best. Text updates and (almost) on time12:02
Laneyi'm making them bring it back out12:02
Laneydon't actually have any clue what it is12:02
Laneyother than that it needs to be signed for12:03
Laney(exciting)12:03
TwistedLucidityIt's "Sorry we missed you card" :-)12:03
zmoylan-pibroken... now... :-p12:03
TwistedLucidityCould be worse, could be a missed "Yodel" delivery.12:04
Laneyhah12:04
Laneyhaven't had them for a while12:04
TwistedLucidityParcelFarce used to block GNU/Linux when trying to send a package, I wonder is they still do?12:05
TwistedLucidityYup - they only support Windows12:06
zmoylan-pinot even mac?12:06
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TwistedLucidityThey say now12:07
TwistedLucidityAt least they let you proceed at your own risk, which is a step forward12:07
davmor2Laney: https://goo.gl/maps/BGAO6  not really a problem for me :)12:07
TwistedLucidityCheck it: https://ship.parcelforce.net/welcome12:08
zmoylan-piinternal server error12:09
zmoylan-piif they can't deliver a tcp/ip packet... :-D12:09
TwistedLuciditydavmor2: Convince them to install a catapult for "short range airmail"12:09
TwistedLucidityzmoylan-pi: Does this work? https://ship.parcelforce.net/intro12:10
Laneydavmor2: there's got to be an upside to living in Wolverhampton :)12:10
zmoylan-pithere used to be a pigeon post for delivering drugs around wwi iirc12:10
zmoylan-piappears to work TwistedLucidity, no errors this time12:11
awilkinsIs there a pomodoro timer app that DOESN'T require me to install the whole of GNOME shell? (searched for "pomodoro" and "tomato" in Synaptic, got a tomato smashing game and gnome-shell-timer which needs GNOME shell...)12:27
* awilkins contemplates whether Hamster can be hacked into doing this12:27
davmor2Laney: there are lots, Brewery, Pies, Parks, Canals, Theatre, Music Venues, Football, the list goes on :)12:38
czajkowskioh someone said pie13:03
czajkowskiyes please13:03
czajkowskisend some this way!13:03
brobostigon:D13:04
bigcalmLemon meringue pie with clotted cream13:07
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davmor2czajkowski: desperate dan Cowpie13:34
czajkowskifood for thought : http://themetapicture.com/oranges-fire-and-deliciousness/13:35
davmor2czajkowski: http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g187065-d1077385-r145177626-Mad_O_Rourkes_Pie_Factory-Dudley_West_Midlands_England.html13:37
TwistedLucidityczajkowski: That is an awesome idea.13:48
TwistedLucidityThe orange-cake thing13:48
czajkowskiyup it so is13:49
czajkowskipopey: something you may like to make with the kids13:50
davmor2popey: no don't listen to czajkowski making it out of kids wouldn't be half as tasty13:53
daftykinsi nearly made a comment about child cookies13:55
popeyooh, i could cook those in my chiminea13:56
arsenipthat looks tasssssty13:56
arsenipwonder if i can bbq that13:56
arsenipspose i can13:56
czajkowskisee good  food :)13:56
mgdmpopey: you can cook things in a chiminea?13:58
popeymgdm: follow that link13:59
popey14:35 < czajkowski> food for thought : http://themetapicture.com/oranges-fire-and-deliciousness/13:59
mgdmpopey: ooh, cunning13:59
czajkowskiyumy13:59
mgdmyet another reason to get one when I finish the garden upgrade13:59
popeyi got a small cheap one from amazon14:01
popeytis fun14:01
ujjainHow do I find out when this file was deleted? logstash- 30786 syslog   13r   REG              252,0   382880  9175043 /var/log/server.log10846712457531125.tmp (deleted)14:22
daftykinsouch, i just phoned up Shure about my earphones to see what it'd cost for repair16:06
daftykinsno option at all, have to send mine in and essentially buy the new model at a 25% discount16:07
daftykinsstill comes out at £208 delivered16:07
foobarryoof16:33
bigcalmyrrab16:35
daftykinsXD16:38
popeypip pip16:55
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foobarryhttps://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-stats-for-q2-2015/17:19
foobarryhmm17:19
daftykinsfoobarry: nice17:33
awilkinsfoobarry, Otherwise known as "Holy **** don't buy a Seagate"17:35
shaunoit doesn't look too bad for 4tb drives.  but the 3tb were famous17:36
daftykinsi don't like Seagate anyway, their SMART data increments 'error' values when everything is fine - making it harder to notice something is up17:38
shaunoI tend to avoid them, except in laptops.  no-one else seems to be doing 2tb in 2.5" yet17:40
daftykinsmechanical :(17:41
daftykinsah well, 3D V-NAND will save us all ;)17:41
daftykinsthose new samsungs aren't bad, £750 odd for a 2TB SSD17:41
daftykinsthat'll only keep coming down17:41
shaunoyeah.  nice to know they're there, but still a little too rich to be throwing at a 5yo laptop.  so I still have one of each17:42
awilkinsmSATA + Spinny Rust is a very nice combo if you do one of the caching things17:42
daftykinsi'd bet even without, if you keep the right stuff on the SSD17:43
shaunoI just keep them seperate.  most the stuff I use in bulk storage I know I don't need anyway.  stuff like photos, music, etc17:43
awilkinsThat probably also works well17:43
shaunoactually just ordered one of those hp microservers so I can start keeping them somewhere more sensible :)17:44
daftykinsnetwork storage \o/17:45
awilkinsNAS box17:45
daftykinsi wouldn't really call it one if it's a full setup like a desktop essentially17:47
shauno(with WD reds)17:48
daftykinsheh i've got a proper appliance one somewhere that keeps telling me it has OS updates available, but it's not something i'm gonna ride the opposite end of the island to hit 'update' on17:48
daftykinsWD reds \o/17:48
daftykinsshauno: don't forget the little vouchers that give you an extra year warranty17:48
daftykinsthey're like a couple of quid each17:48
daftykinswell worth it17:48
davmor2daftykins: cycle pfff isn't that what ssh is for17:52
daftykinsnot to someones house with no Linux systems o017:53
shaunowindows is getting ssh in 10 ;)17:53
daftykinsthey also don't run Windows!17:53
shaunoit's already in osx?17:54
daftykinsyeah but i'm not gonna setup SSH on someones MBP at home17:54
daftykinsand a dynamic DNS and... and...17:54
daftykins:P17:54
shaunoyeah, who would do that17:55
shaunoactually, I coulda swore there was a way to get vnc to connect back to front17:56
daftykinsyeah i used to mess with that, but meh17:58
daftykinsi feel wrong about charging someone to hit update :)17:58
daftykinsso i don't feel hugely inclined to17:58
daftykinsshauno: are you seriously saying you'd set that up just to do future maintenance?18:00
zmoylan-piwhere would ms or apple be with that attutude?? :-)18:00
daftykinsyou missed out Linux distros, they're not immune18:00
shaunoI used to, but then I charged them travel time too so remote saved them billables too18:02
daftykinsi don't think it's right to open that up on someones machine after only doing one job18:04
daftykinsregular client? sure18:04
daftykinsoffice users? sure. home user like this one? nope18:05
shaunoyeah, that's why the reverse-vnc was a second thought.  because that leaves the 'open' on your side18:05
daftykinsmmm, i think aero wasn't working too well with it18:05
daftykinsi moved to playing with teamviewer a bit ago, but not tried that with macs yet18:06
daftykinsactually that reminds me - this lady had ubuntu but moved to mac18:06
shaunoalso, my only 'regular' kept everything onsite, mail & all, so ssh was the least of their worries18:07
ali1234how do i format a 4TB drive in linux?18:40
ali1234i can't go above 2.2TB with fdisk apparently18:40
daftykinsgdisk ?18:42
daftykinscan't even remember what i wrote a GPT as onto a RAID, now18:43
daftykinswhat i wrote it with, that is18:43
davmor2ali1234: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/fdisk-unable-to-create-partition-greater-2tb.html19:12
daftykinsoh yeah parted19:12
daftykins*facepalm*19:12
ali1234so in other words i need to use GPT?19:12
daftykinsyes19:13
ali1234okay, i see19:13
directhexMBR partition format cannot address numbers above 2T20:49
directhexbooting from GPT on BIOS is doable with linux, but not windows20:49
daftykinshmm20:50
mapito3 apartments to viw20:58
mapito1 bed atlantic suites £1200 extra for pool LOL20:58
mapito1 bed euro towers £1150 and 1 bed water gardens £105020:58
mapitobargains eh?20:58
daftykinso021:01
ali1234directhex: i don't need to boot, it's an external USB drive21:33
directhexthen gpt is fine21:33
ali1234any thoughts on filesystem format?21:34
ali1234just EXT4?21:34
daftykinswhat's the data that'll go on it?21:36
daftykinscertainly no harm in keeping it simple with ext421:36
ali1234literally everything21:37
daftykinsbackup? mmm21:37
ali1234single files that are 20GB, directories with 10k files in them...21:37

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