[00:18] <ali1234> does virtualbox support pci passthrough on linux?
[05:17] <mappps> HI ALL
[05:17] <mappps> oops
[05:37] <diddledan> I really should sleep this week
[05:40] <mappps> someone get me some ac
[05:40] <mappps> ;[[
[06:10] <knightwise> hey mappps
[06:13] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[06:14] <diddledan> allo
[06:16] <brobostigon> hi diddledan
[06:16] <knightwise> hey guyzzz
[06:16] <brobostigon> ey knightwise
[06:16] <mappps> hey knightwise
[06:16] <mappps> ;)
[06:16] <mappps> so hot here again..neeeed ac
[06:18] <knightwise> Cold and windy up here
[06:21] <mappps> its hard to sleep
[06:21] <mappps> due to heat
[06:22] <zmoylan-pi> you are in a hot climate, why don't you have ac?
[06:27] <mappps> it's not standard
[06:27] <mappps> both in spain and here in gib
[06:27] <mappps> most places dont have ac..my friend bought a portable one off amazn..said its great
[06:27] <mappps> and im planning on doing the same too
[06:28] <zmoylan-pi> saw plans for cheap homemade version
[06:31] <zmoylan-pi> http://www.instructables.com/id/Cheap-DIY-Air-Conditioner/ a few hours of cool air...
[06:33] <mappps> nice
[06:35] <zmoylan-pi> not much call for ac in ireland :-)
[06:36] <zmoylan-pi> [Dublin, DUB, Ireland] Condition: Mostly Cloudy | Temp: 11C/52F/284K/511R | Humidity: 88% | Wind Speed 15mph/24kmph
[06:36] <zmoylan-pi> [Gibraltar, Gibraltar] Condition: Fair | Temp: 26C/79F/299K/538R | Humidity: 54% | Wind Speed 9mph/14kmph
[06:37] <mappps> surprising more people dont buy portBLE ac they just suffer
[06:37] <mappps> uh
[06:52] <DJones> Heh https://goo.gl/uvTGTt (Safe for work)
[07:06] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:11] <SuperMatt> morning
[07:14] <MooDoo> how are you supermatt?
[07:18] <SuperMatt> I'm well thanks, you?
[07:30] <MooDoo> yeah good thanks :)
[08:13] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:14] <zmoylan-pi> happy !monday
[08:14] <MooDoo> howdy davmor2
[08:20] <Knightwork> morning peeps
[08:20] <MooDoo> howdy Knightwork
[08:21] <Knightwork> hey MooDoo ,
[08:21] <Knightwork> how are things goin today
[08:24] <Knightwork>  /join #xps13
[08:29] <MooDoo> Knightwork: yeah ok thanks, just playing about with my storage server
[08:29] <davmor2> MooDoo: Classic from the mamas and the papas this morning :)
[08:30] <davmor2> MooDoo: mostly due to seeing the sky colour this morning :)
[08:30] <MooDoo> davmor2: i've just randomely picked a playlist, don't think i've heard of half the artists
[08:31] <davmor2> MooDoo: that's why you need my morning head song play list in your life, you'll know them all :D
[08:33] <MooDoo> yeah i usually listen to that
[08:33] <Knightwork> I'm going to use bittorrent sync and a raspberry pi to do some offsite backups
[08:36] <Knightwork> been having some issues giving bittorrent sync the correct rights to a mounted external drive
[08:51] <diddledan> is it lunch time yet?
[08:51] <zmoylan-pi> 3 times zones to the east it is
[08:52] <Knightwork> hmmm.. wondering if I can wear this to work ; http://www.amazon.de/Herren-Baumwolle-gemischt-Fashionable-Asymmetric/dp/B00LFBDUQY/ref=pd_rhf_se_s_cp_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0288WGZVWCQ6ZZ367BV5
[08:52] <Knightwork> Its on the very fringes of ' a blazer ' but only misses a sonic screwdriver to become a dr who outfit
[08:53] <zmoylan-pi> definitely from the sci fi end of the wardrobe
[08:53] <zmoylan-pi> more a baddie leader of the week though
[08:54] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Milk Chocolate Day! 😃
[08:55] <zmoylan-pi> because all those red bulls weren't enough reason to cut your foot off
[08:56] <Knightwork> zmoylan-pi: it is rather special indeed
[08:57] <Knightwork> I have this one though. http://www.amazon.de/Keral-Beil%C3%A4ufiger-Unregelm%C3%A4%C3%9Figer-Clipping-Kn%C3%B6pfe/dp/B00RHIWHHW/ref=pd_rhf_se_s_cp_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=0N4APZ792AB67C1NNHGZ
[08:57] <diddledan> JamesTait: now that's a day I can get behind!
[09:07] <davmor2> JamesTait: http://rlv.zcache.com/the_perfect_week_eat_chocolate_funny_gift_v01_foremostcountdownbox-r3fe488890bbf4d918cdcc4408b59d019_z8lbw_324.jpg?rlvnet=1
[09:07]  * JamesTait wholeheartedly approves
[09:07]  * Knightwork doesnt like chocolate
[09:08] <davmor2> Knightwork: Get out of here, get out now ;)
[09:09] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-GkwIRbLw8
[09:09]  * JamesTait nabs Knightwork's chocolate.
[09:09] <davmor2> Knightwork: that is nearly as bad as saying you don't like cats
[09:09] <Knightwork> I'm Belgian .. i should LOVE chocolate
[09:10] <Knightwork> davmor2: i'm a dog person (but we do have a cat)
[09:10] <Knightwork> https://www.flickr.com/photos/knightwise/20047250625/
[09:10]  * Knightwork has a Doge
[09:14] <JamesTait> davmor2, https://youtu.be/3sV6DjrYdr8?t=26s
[09:22] <diddledan> Knightwork: that's a propper doge doge, too
[09:23] <davmor2> JamesTait: there is something wrong with you isn't there ;)
[09:23] <JamesTait> davmor2, nothing a holiday won't cure. Probably.
[09:24] <Knightwork> diddledan: yep . she is shedding right now , that is why she looks a little thin
[09:24] <zmoylan-pi> roll on winter
[09:26] <Knightwork> yep .. you won't believe the amount of fur they shedd
[09:26] <diddledan> JamesTait: davmor2: it took me 2 minutes of watching that before I realised it was eating my brain
[09:27] <davmor2> diddledan: no it wasn't it was eating choco choco latte
[09:27] <diddledan> I'm gonna have that in my head all day now
[09:27] <diddledan> davmor2: find it on spotify and add it to the morning-head list :-p
[09:28] <diddledan> but seriously, there should be health warnings on that
[09:29] <davmor2> diddledan: mamas and papas this morning is still protecting me from it, might be different in the morning
[09:33] <davmor2> Knightwork: My moneys still on this cat https://photos.google.com/u/0/photo/AF1QipOydiJj0fBPv7ITkOoFw7V-J3opUWmGR85zCl8j ;)
[09:33] <Knightwork> dav, bad link
[09:34] <davmor2> Knightwork: https://goo.gl/photos/MNRYdjNkxyiugR9d8 try that
[09:35] <Knightwork> davmor2: if that is your cat it explains the state of your face
[09:36] <davmor2> Knightwork: No it's one of the cats I sponsor can't really have pets here
[09:39]  * zmoylan-pi makes do with landlords cats and loads of ferals around
[10:18] <cocoa117> is there a way to appear to be login to a mchine through SSH and background the  process? E.g. the w would show you login?
[10:18] <davmor2> we see lots of pets at the caravan park at the weekend :)
[10:30] <zmoylan-pi> seems cruel for the cats... :-)
[10:33] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:35] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: they love it, and the tortoises and the rabbits as well as the dogs
[10:38] <Myrtti> cocoa117: sure, hold on
[10:38] <davmor2> morning bigcalm
[10:38] <bigcalm> o/
[10:39] <cocoa117> Myrtti, :)
[10:39] <davmor2> bigcalm: what's your opinion on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYluMAO1b7Y
[10:40] <bigcalm> davmor2: no real opinion. Not in the mood for that type of music right now.
[10:40] <davmor2> bigcalm: try this then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oFMEeftF78
[10:41] <Myrtti> cocoa117: -f
[10:42] <Myrtti> cocoa117: man ssh row 113 (-N and -n) might be useful too
[11:10] <davmor2> anybody else here really want to hear Kate Bush re sing running up that hill but with the placibo music
[11:11] <mgdm> I'd rather not hear Kate Bush sing at all
[11:13] <zmoylan-pi> she had a few good tunes
[11:14] <diddledan> yey for long-running processes - I've just started a job which should only take about 20 hours to complete
[11:14] <diddledan> splecifically I'm doing some geocoding
[11:15] <diddledan> I've put artificial delays of ~30 seconds between each attempt so as to hopefully not fall foul of google's api limits
[11:17] <zmoylan-pi> hee, did that when i wrote an sms server way back :-) too many sms and the number would be blocked automatically
[11:18] <zmoylan-pi> never mind it was from a company account going to only numbers also on the same account.  engineers been sent tasks and info relating to those tasks, originally by pager and then sms
[11:57] <Laney> ruddy ninja carding
[11:57] <Laney> I had the radio on so he could have heard I was in
[11:58] <Myrtti> ninja postman?
[12:01] <Laney> indeed
[12:01] <TwistedLucidity> Laney: Royal Mail rarely delivers parcels these days. It's more efficient for them to post the card and have to slog out to the sorting office
[12:01] <Laney> also the royal mail's redelivery form helpfully goes back a stage (losing all the entered data) if you press 'enter'
[12:01] <czajkowski> ugh
[12:01] <Laney> TwistedLucidity: this is supposed to be a perk of working from home!
[12:02] <TwistedLucidity> Laney: But you have so much time to drive to the sorting office!
[12:02] <Laney> PSH, PSH I SAY
[12:02] <TwistedLucidity> I find DPD to be the best. Text updates and (almost) on time
[12:02] <Laney> i'm making them bring it back out
[12:02] <Laney> don't actually have any clue what it is
[12:03] <Laney> other than that it needs to be signed for
[12:03] <Laney> (exciting)
[12:03] <TwistedLucidity> It's "Sorry we missed you card" :-)
[12:03] <zmoylan-pi> broken... now... :-p
[12:04] <TwistedLucidity> Could be worse, could be a missed "Yodel" delivery.
[12:04] <Laney> hah
[12:04] <Laney> haven't had them for a while
[12:05] <TwistedLucidity> ParcelFarce used to block GNU/Linux when trying to send a package, I wonder is they still do?
[12:06] <TwistedLucidity> Yup - they only support Windows
[12:06] <zmoylan-pi> not even mac?
[12:07] <TwistedLucidity> They say now
[12:07] <TwistedLucidity> At least they let you proceed at your own risk, which is a step forward
[12:07] <davmor2> Laney: https://goo.gl/maps/BGAO6  not really a problem for me :)
[12:08] <TwistedLucidity> Check it: https://ship.parcelforce.net/welcome
[12:09] <zmoylan-pi> internal server error
[12:09] <zmoylan-pi> if they can't deliver a tcp/ip packet... :-D
[12:09] <TwistedLucidity> davmor2: Convince them to install a catapult for "short range airmail"
[12:10] <TwistedLucidity> zmoylan-pi: Does this work? https://ship.parcelforce.net/intro
[12:10] <Laney> davmor2: there's got to be an upside to living in Wolverhampton :)
[12:10] <zmoylan-pi> there used to be a pigeon post for delivering drugs around wwi iirc
[12:11] <zmoylan-pi> appears to work TwistedLucidity, no errors this time
[12:27] <awilkins> Is there a pomodoro timer app that DOESN'T require me to install the whole of GNOME shell? (searched for "pomodoro" and "tomato" in Synaptic, got a tomato smashing game and gnome-shell-timer which needs GNOME shell...)
[12:27]  * awilkins contemplates whether Hamster can be hacked into doing this
[12:38] <davmor2> Laney: there are lots, Brewery, Pies, Parks, Canals, Theatre, Music Venues, Football, the list goes on :)
[13:03] <czajkowski> oh someone said pie
[13:03] <czajkowski> yes please
[13:03] <czajkowski> send some this way!
[13:04] <brobostigon> :D
[13:07] <bigcalm> Lemon meringue pie with clotted cream
[13:34] <davmor2> czajkowski: desperate dan Cowpie
[13:35] <czajkowski> food for thought : http://themetapicture.com/oranges-fire-and-deliciousness/
[13:37] <davmor2> czajkowski: http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g187065-d1077385-r145177626-Mad_O_Rourkes_Pie_Factory-Dudley_West_Midlands_England.html
[13:48] <TwistedLucidity> czajkowski: That is an awesome idea.
[13:48] <TwistedLucidity> The orange-cake thing
[13:49] <czajkowski> yup it so is
[13:50] <czajkowski> popey: something you may like to make with the kids
[13:53] <davmor2> popey: no don't listen to czajkowski making it out of kids wouldn't be half as tasty
[13:55] <daftykins> i nearly made a comment about child cookies
[13:56] <popey> ooh, i could cook those in my chiminea
[13:56] <arsenip> that looks tasssssty
[13:56] <arsenip> wonder if i can bbq that
[13:56] <arsenip> spose i can
[13:56] <czajkowski> see good  food :)
[13:58] <mgdm> popey: you can cook things in a chiminea?
[13:59] <popey> mgdm: follow that link
[13:59] <popey> 14:35 < czajkowski> food for thought : http://themetapicture.com/oranges-fire-and-deliciousness/
[13:59] <mgdm> popey: ooh, cunning
[13:59] <czajkowski> yumy
[13:59] <mgdm> yet another reason to get one when I finish the garden upgrade
[14:01] <popey> i got a small cheap one from amazon
[14:01] <popey> tis fun
[14:22] <ujjain> How do I find out when this file was deleted? logstash- 30786 syslog   13r   REG              252,0   382880  9175043 /var/log/server.log10846712457531125.tmp (deleted)
[16:06] <daftykins> ouch, i just phoned up Shure about my earphones to see what it'd cost for repair
[16:07] <daftykins> no option at all, have to send mine in and essentially buy the new model at a 25% discount
[16:07] <daftykins> still comes out at £208 delivered
[16:33] <foobarry> oof
[16:35] <bigcalm> yrrab
[16:38] <daftykins> XD
[16:55] <popey> pip pip
[17:19] <foobarry> https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-stats-for-q2-2015/
[17:19] <foobarry> hmm
[17:33] <daftykins> foobarry: nice
[17:35] <awilkins> foobarry, Otherwise known as "Holy **** don't buy a Seagate"
[17:36] <shauno> it doesn't look too bad for 4tb drives.  but the 3tb were famous
[17:38] <daftykins> i don't like Seagate anyway, their SMART data increments 'error' values when everything is fine - making it harder to notice something is up
[17:40] <shauno> I tend to avoid them, except in laptops.  no-one else seems to be doing 2tb in 2.5" yet
[17:41] <daftykins> mechanical :(
[17:41] <daftykins> ah well, 3D V-NAND will save us all ;)
[17:41] <daftykins> those new samsungs aren't bad, £750 odd for a 2TB SSD
[17:41] <daftykins> that'll only keep coming down
[17:42] <shauno> yeah.  nice to know they're there, but still a little too rich to be throwing at a 5yo laptop.  so I still have one of each
[17:42] <awilkins> mSATA + Spinny Rust is a very nice combo if you do one of the caching things
[17:43] <daftykins> i'd bet even without, if you keep the right stuff on the SSD
[17:43] <shauno> I just keep them seperate.  most the stuff I use in bulk storage I know I don't need anyway.  stuff like photos, music, etc
[17:43] <awilkins> That probably also works well
[17:44] <shauno> actually just ordered one of those hp microservers so I can start keeping them somewhere more sensible :)
[17:45] <daftykins> network storage \o/
[17:45] <awilkins> NAS box
[17:47] <daftykins> i wouldn't really call it one if it's a full setup like a desktop essentially
[17:48] <shauno> (with WD reds)
[17:48] <daftykins> heh i've got a proper appliance one somewhere that keeps telling me it has OS updates available, but it's not something i'm gonna ride the opposite end of the island to hit 'update' on
[17:48] <daftykins> WD reds \o/
[17:48] <daftykins> shauno: don't forget the little vouchers that give you an extra year warranty
[17:48] <daftykins> they're like a couple of quid each
[17:48] <daftykins> well worth it
[17:52] <davmor2> daftykins: cycle pfff isn't that what ssh is for
[17:53] <daftykins> not to someones house with no Linux systems o0
[17:53] <shauno> windows is getting ssh in 10 ;)
[17:53] <daftykins> they also don't run Windows!
[17:54] <shauno> it's already in osx?
[17:54] <daftykins> yeah but i'm not gonna setup SSH on someones MBP at home
[17:54] <daftykins> and a dynamic DNS and... and...
[17:54] <daftykins> :P
[17:55] <shauno> yeah, who would do that
[17:56] <shauno> actually, I coulda swore there was a way to get vnc to connect back to front
[17:58] <daftykins> yeah i used to mess with that, but meh
[17:58] <daftykins> i feel wrong about charging someone to hit update :)
[17:58] <daftykins> so i don't feel hugely inclined to
[18:00] <daftykins> shauno: are you seriously saying you'd set that up just to do future maintenance?
[18:00] <zmoylan-pi> where would ms or apple be with that attutude?? :-)
[18:00] <daftykins> you missed out Linux distros, they're not immune
[18:02] <shauno> I used to, but then I charged them travel time too so remote saved them billables too
[18:04] <daftykins> i don't think it's right to open that up on someones machine after only doing one job
[18:04] <daftykins> regular client? sure
[18:05] <daftykins> office users? sure. home user like this one? nope
[18:05] <shauno> yeah, that's why the reverse-vnc was a second thought.  because that leaves the 'open' on your side
[18:05] <daftykins> mmm, i think aero wasn't working too well with it
[18:06] <daftykins> i moved to playing with teamviewer a bit ago, but not tried that with macs yet
[18:06] <daftykins> actually that reminds me - this lady had ubuntu but moved to mac
[18:07] <shauno> also, my only 'regular' kept everything onsite, mail & all, so ssh was the least of their worries
[18:40] <ali1234> how do i format a 4TB drive in linux?
[18:40] <ali1234> i can't go above 2.2TB with fdisk apparently
[18:42] <daftykins> gdisk ?
[18:43] <daftykins> can't even remember what i wrote a GPT as onto a RAID, now
[18:43] <daftykins> what i wrote it with, that is
[19:12] <davmor2> ali1234: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/fdisk-unable-to-create-partition-greater-2tb.html
[19:12] <daftykins> oh yeah parted
[19:12] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[19:12] <ali1234> so in other words i need to use GPT?
[19:13] <daftykins> yes
[19:13] <ali1234> okay, i see
[20:49] <directhex> MBR partition format cannot address numbers above 2T
[20:49] <directhex> booting from GPT on BIOS is doable with linux, but not windows
[20:50] <daftykins> hmm
[20:58] <mapito> 3 apartments to viw
[20:58] <mapito> 1 bed atlantic suites £1200 extra for pool LOL
[20:58] <mapito> 1 bed euro towers £1150 and 1 bed water gardens £1050
[20:58] <mapito> bargains eh?
[21:01] <daftykins> o0
[21:33] <ali1234> directhex: i don't need to boot, it's an external USB drive
[21:33] <directhex> then gpt is fine
[21:34] <ali1234> any thoughts on filesystem format?
[21:34] <ali1234> just EXT4?
[21:36] <daftykins> what's the data that'll go on it?
[21:36] <daftykins> certainly no harm in keeping it simple with ext4
[21:37] <ali1234> literally everything
[21:37] <daftykins> backup? mmm
[21:37] <ali1234> single files that are 20GB, directories with 10k files in them...