[00:03] <lpotter> cd bin
[00:06] <greyback_> lpotter: /bin $
[00:21] <lpotter> wrong dir ~/bin :)
[14:13] <attente> i can't seem to log into a unity8 session from the unity8 lock screen. every time i enter my password, it just resets back to the lock screen
[14:14] <attente> this is on desktop btw
[14:22] <seb128> attente, unity8/mir don't handle keyboard layouts, so make sure you type what you think you are typing
[14:22] <seb128> you are probably qwerty, but in case you have a difference on some symbol or something you are using
[14:24] <attente> seb128: i haven't had this problem before, and wouldn't it show an error saying incorrect password? also my password is short and contains no special characters
[14:24] <seb128> no, it doesn't show an error
[14:25] <seb128> it just "wobble"
[14:25] <seb128> I often have the issue typing my password in azerty :p
[14:25] <seb128> is that a recent issue? on wily?
[14:25] <attente> oh. it didn't wobble for me
[14:25] <seb128> I didn't try unity8 this week, I can update and try in a bit
[14:26] <attente> sure, yeah, this is in wily
[14:35] <attente> quite a lot of errors in the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11953881/
[14:42] <seb128> ChrisTownsend, ^ you test unity8/wily regularly, did you get login issues?
[14:43] <ChrisTownsend> seb128: No, not as of yesterday.
[14:43] <ChrisTownsend> Hmm, Mir issues it seems.
[14:44] <ChrisTownsend> attente: Do you have mir-graphics-drivers-desktop installed?
[14:44] <ChrisTownsend> You should, but just checking.
[14:45] <ChrisTownsend> Nevermind, you're at the Unity8 lockscreen, so you do
[14:45] <attente> ChrisTownsend: were you able to reproduce it?
[14:45] <ChrisTownsend> attente: Give me a sec and I'll reboot my test system.
[14:47] <ChrisTownsend> attente: It still works fine for me.
[14:48] <ChrisTownsend> attente: It seems it lost track of the Scopes surface.  Anything in the unity8-dash.log file?
[14:49] <attente> ChrisTownsend: this is what i have: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11953951/
[14:50] <ChrisTownsend> attente: In your unity8.log, this seems to be where it falls down:
[14:50] <ChrisTownsend> g_dbus_connection_real_closed: Remote peer vanished with error: Underlying GIOStream returned 0 bytes on an async read (g-io-error-quark, 0). Exiting.
[14:50] <ChrisTownsend> Signal caught by Mir, stopping Mir server..
[14:51] <ChrisTownsend> Not sure why that is happening.
[14:52] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: Any ideas about what's happening w/ attente's session? ^^^^
[14:54] <greyback_> hmm no idea, but that dbus fail looks relevant
[14:54] <greyback_> I'll update my wily machine to see if I can repro
[14:57] <mhall119> kgunn: kdub: can we get a blog post talking about what's new in Mir 0.14 and coming in 0.15 on unity.ubuntu.com please?
[14:57] <kgunn> camako__: ^
[14:58]  * kdub wouldnt mind writing something
[14:59] <camako__> Blog post? Was there some external interest in seeing this info in a blog?
[15:03] <davmor2> kdub: you just did /me quotes "kdub wouldnt mind writing something"
[15:05] <kdub> davmor2, yes?
[15:06] <davmor2> kdub: but that is writing something :P
[15:06] <kdub> ah :)
[15:06]  * kdub wouldnt mind writing this, and writing something else
[15:08] <davmor2> hahah
[15:16] <greyback_> mhall119: hey, silo0 is working fine, pocket-desktop is functional in there
[15:16] <mhall119> greyback_: ok, I'll try it again
[15:16] <mhall119> greyback_: it's not turned off for mako for some reason is it?
[15:18] <greyback_> mhall119: nope, I have it working on my mako right now
[15:18] <greyback_> mhall119: please use hte cltrain tool to enable it, so the right packages are installed
[15:20] <mhall119> greyback_: does the display work properly on an external monitor, or is it just the keyboard/mouse switching on desktop mode that's working?
[15:20] <greyback_> mhall119: all of the above
[15:21] <mhall119> cool, I don't have BT mouse or keyboard yet, but I'll try the display part
[15:23] <greyback_> mhall119: it will change to desktop mode when you plug in the display. Thanks for trying it out!
[15:32] <camako__> mhall119, is this where I post for Mir 0.14?
[15:32] <camako__> https://unity.ubuntu.com/blog/
[15:49] <mhall119> camako__: yes, if you don't have access to /wp-admin/ let me know
[15:49] <camako__> mhall119, Thanks. I seem to have access after logging in.
[16:00] <mhall119> greyback_: oh, that's some nice progresss :)
[16:01] <mhall119> it doesn't crash when I plug it in to HDMI, it auto-rotates on the phone and has the right orientation on the TV
[16:01] <greyback_> mhall119: we've a long way to go with window management, but yeah hte basics are there
[16:01] <greyback_> yay for not crashing! :)
[16:01] <mhall119> the scopes app has the header cut off on the phone, and it's not filling the TV screen properly, but it's closer
[16:02] <greyback_> mhall119: yeah, several apps are too tall for phone landscape
[16:02] <mhall119> on the TV it seems to be shifted about 20% down and to the left
[16:02] <greyback_> I'm unsure what to do there
[16:02] <greyback_> yeah, it's the same image as on the phone screen, which has smaller resolution
[16:02] <greyback_> on nexus7 it looks better
[16:03] <greyback_> as resolutions almost 1080p there
[16:03] <mhall119> greyback_: really the grid units setting should change at runtime to match the external display
[16:03] <greyback_> mhall119: that is easier said than done
[16:03] <mhall119> I figured
[16:03] <greyback_> but yeah, that would be the plan
[16:03] <mhall119> greyback_: as for what to do, file bugs, lots of them :)
[16:03] <mhall119> against the SDK, the apps, etc
[16:04] <mhall119> if we should just change the GU to use fewer pixels when plugged in, that would probably help with apps fitting on scren
[16:06] <greyback_> mhall119: sure, but the grid units have never changed at runtime before, I'm not sure if the SDK guys have that in mind
[16:06]  * mhall119 will go and ask
[16:17] <camako__> mhall119, I created something simple ---> https://unity.ubuntu.com/2015/07/28/whats-new-in-mir-0-14/
[16:18] <camako__> Feel free to hook it where you want
[16:18] <mhall119> camako__: perfect, thanks!
[17:00] <mhall119> camako__: FYI, you need to put blog posts in the Articles category for them to show up on https://unity.ubuntu.com/blog/, I've just done that for yours
[17:22] <camako__> mhall19, ok will do that next time. Thanks
[18:04] <josharenson> mterry: where is the file that specifies what session is started after a user logs in? Not seeing it in /etc/lightdm or /usr/shar/lightdm
[18:06] <mterry> josharenson, new-style folder for that is /usr/share/lightdm/sessions.  Old-style folder is /usr/share/xsessions/
[18:06] <mterry> josharenson, the default is configured via /etc/lightdm.conf.d/*
[18:06] <mterry> josharenson, or /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d
[18:06] <mterry> josharenson, and the user can have their own setting for that saved in accountsservice
[18:07] <josharenson> mterry: ok cool, thanks.
[18:27] <greyback_> attente: it took me a long time to get a chance to try it, but my newly updated wily does let me log into unity8. So unfortunately something must be wrong on your end
[18:59] <attente> greyback__, ok, thanks