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jrwrenwalked into room with home server to hear the sound of a disk failing.14:55
jrwren:(14:55
jrwrenit sounds just terrible.14:55
jrwrenbut the system is running fine and well14:55
jrwrenugh, and sudo pvs hangs.14:57
brouschOMG you still use spinning rust?!14:57
brouschhttp://i.memecaptain.com/gend_images/pWZ-hg.jpg14:58
jrwrenof course.14:58
jrwrenhow else am I going to afford 12TB+ of storage?14:58
jrwrenholy crap, its making TERRIBLE sounds.14:59
jrwrensounds like beeps.14:59
jrwrenoh wow, its the ST2000DM001-9YN1 and not the samsung.15:02
jrwrencursed baracuda15:02
greg-ggot sudo back?15:04
jrwrenhuh?15:07
greg-g14:57 <    jrwren> ugh, and sudo pvs hangs.15:08
greg-goh, pvs15:08
greg-gI thought it said "sudo privs"15:08
jrwrenoh yes, it came back.15:08
greg-gnvm :)15:08
jrwrenthe beeps are so weird. I've never heard a HD failure cause system beeps15:08
jrwrenits rather annoying.15:08
* greg-g pushes down on the french press plunger, time for coffee15:08
jrwren<315:10
* jrwren sips his automatic drip and savors15:10
cmaloneyGood morning15:18
cmaloneyjrwren: No fun15:18
jrwrencmaloney: luckily, hte disk was not in use. I did pvremove on it a while ago because of crazy SMART errors.15:19
jrwrencmaloney: err, no, I ram pvmove.  pvremove would fail for some lvm metadata reason.15:19
jrwrennow that the disk ACTUALLY failed, pvremove just worked.15:19
jrwren*sigh*15:19
jrwrenwatch, I'll probably reboot and LVM will totally fail, not finding metadata.15:19
cmaloneyHeh15:20
cmaloneyI've not used lvm for RAID. NEver though to use it for that.15:21
jrwrencmaloney: its rather nice because its all in one system.15:23
jrwrencmaloney: I don't think it performs QUITE as fast as MD, but really, maybe it does since they are both abstactions on device mapper anyway.15:23
jrwrencmaloney: its great because you lvcreate and say "mirror" and now you have 2 copies across devices for that partition15:23
jrwrenand its LVM, so you are carving chunks out of hte pool, not worrying about matching PV sizes.15:24
jrwrencmaloney: I'm pretty sure that this is partly how synology does its mirroring15:24
jrwrenanyway, I got the idea from synology15:24
cmaloneyAh, neat15:26
cmaloneyI'm using md for mine so I'm a bit committed at the moment. :)15:27
jrwren:)15:27
jrwrenI know some sysadmin purists (I like to call them old curmudgeons) poo-poo this approach, but it has worked really well for me.15:27
jrwrenand I'm rather excited to add a cache disk.15:28
cmaloneyThe only difference between an experienced sysadmin and a punter is the number of bite marks in their ass15:28
jrwrencmaloney: hahaha! true15:28
cscheibluckily, my worst disk experience so far has been the early-2.6 kernel xfs bug.15:55
cscheibjrwren: are you @sadserver? https://twitter.com/planetpuppet/status/62604782868759757215:57
jrwrencscheib: nope, what is sadserver?17:51
cscheibgah17:51
cscheibsent wrong link17:51
cscheibhttps://twitter.com/sadserver/status/62604796380722790517:52
jrwrencscheib: hahaha, luckily all filesystems are operation, its just a disk that finally went boom.17:59
brouschHm, it's a 15" 5lb tablet http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/inspiron-15-7558-laptop/pd?ref=PD_OC18:00
cscheibjrwren: sadserver is like the marvin the android from HHGTG of sysadmin twitter accounts18:01
jrwrencscheib: hahahaha18:01
jrwrencscheib: brain the size of a planet!18:02
jrwrenbrousch: $549 isn't bad at all18:02
brouschi7 for $85018:02
jrwreni wonder how slow a pentium is.18:03
jrwrendo they have a 13" 2-in-1 ?18:03
jrwrenooh they do, but it costs more :(18:04
brouschCore M18:05
jrwrenoh no, its even less.18:05
brouschI have a Core M. I'm not impressed with its speed, especially graphics18:05
jrwrenmore my style: http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/inspiron-13-7348-laptop/pd?oc=cai137nw10b5018p&model_id=inspiron-13-7348-laptop18:05
jrwrenIntelĀ® PentiumĀ® Processor 3825U18:05
brousch13.3-inch HD (1366 x 768)18:05
jrwrenso... faster than a macbook, but not by much, still not fast enough to use google hangouts and something else at the same time.18:05
jrwrenyeah, that low res must be why it is so cheap.18:06
jrwrenman dell's website sucks.18:06
jrwreni cannot find the 13" equiv screen to what you linked.18:07
brouschhttp://www.dell.com/us/business/p/inspiron-13-7352-laptop/pd?ref=PD_OC18:07
jrwrenoooh, they have an 11" 2-in-1 for $329!18:07
jrwrenhow did you find that?18:07
jrwreni wonder if that $329 would run ubuntu touch nicely?18:08
jrwrenwow, no 5Ghz wifi, and a spinning rust disk. its like they aren't even trying.18:09
brouschheh18:11
greg-gdell? not trying? say it ain't so!18:11
brouschThey're trying, just not very hard18:12
jrwrengreg-g: hehehe18:13
jrwrensorry, i'm sometimes known as captain obvious18:13
brouschI got Kubuntu 15.04 running on lenovo miix 2 11, but it only recognized single touch18:15
jrwren<3 SATA hot swap21:35
jrwrencursed out of warranty drive!21:51

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