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kivi | hi all | 05:58 |
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kivi | i'm trying to build a self contained snappy package which has zsh. It requires ncurses; now should I download Ncurses, and extract into my zsh directory? If yes, what folder should I put it in? | 06:43 |
kivi | should I create a folder called "dependencies" or "src" [already exists], and put it in there? | 06:43 |
kivi | or am I doing this all wrong? | 06:43 |
kivi | actually I'll ask ubuntu packaging. | 06:44 |
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dholbach | good morning | 07:03 |
kivi | dholbach, morning | 07:04 |
kivi | dholbach, because click packages/ snaps are statically linked, do I need to provide every single dependency, or should I be relying on some dependencies from the system? | 07:04 |
kivi | does that make sense? I'm just wading into this. | 07:05 |
dholbach | hey kivi | 07:07 |
dholbach | kivi, you don't necessarily need to link statically - you could also bundle libraries which are necessary and set someting like LD_LIBRARY_PATH (or something) if that makes things easier | 07:08 |
dholbach | clicks/snapps can only require a framework to be installed, not packages as in the .deb based world | 07:09 |
dholbach | I don't know if there's a list of packages that are guaranteed to be in the snappy base... | 07:09 |
kivi | dholbach, the question for me is knowing what I can and can not use. Like for example; I can't use an installed python interpreter, so I need to bundle one myself, right? | 07:10 |
dholbach | yes | 07:10 |
dholbach | if you log into your phone (or emulator) you can try it out | 07:11 |
dholbach | phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ python | 07:11 |
dholbach | -bash: python: command not found | 07:11 |
dholbach | phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ | 07:11 |
dholbach | on the phone right now you can even use 'dpkg -l' | 07:11 |
dholbach | on a snappy based system that won't exist anymore | 07:11 |
kivi | dholbach, okay, but if I want to be on the safe side, I should bundle all the dependencies myself? Or will that come at a huge cost? | 07:12 |
dholbach | it'll be a bigger download for your users | 07:14 |
kivi | dholbach, but performance will still be fine? | 07:15 |
dholbach | yep | 07:17 |
kivi | dholbach, okay thanks! | 07:19 |
kivi | Once I get this down, I think I'll make a few youtube tutorials on this. | 07:20 |
dholbach | kivi, excellent - thanks a lot! :) | 07:32 |
dholbach | dpm, I think we wanted to talk about https://strawpoll.me/4482403/r at some stage | 07:40 |
dpm | dholbach, didn't we make a decision already to use ubuntu-app-devel@? | 07:57 |
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dholbach | dpm, I can't remember - I'm happy to update developer.u.c and let folks on both lists know | 08:00 |
dholbach | ah developer.u.c is already up to date | 08:02 |
dpm | ok, cool | 08:05 |
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dholbach | mhall119, do you have any deployment news? :) | 08:38 |
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rpadovani | popey, mzanetti I would love a feedback by you on bug #1478094 | 10:55 |
ubot5 | bug 1478094 in Ubuntu Notes app "Tags wil not allow you to tap okay until the word is released from the keyboard" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1478094 | 10:55 |
mzanetti | rpadovani, what kind of feedback? | 10:56 |
mzanetti | oh, I see | 10:56 |
mzanetti | hmm | 10:56 |
rpadovani | mzanetti, wait for an upstream solution or disable predictive text? | 10:56 |
mzanetti | rpadovani, well, there is an upstream solution | 10:56 |
rpadovani | really? I wasn't aware of | 10:57 |
mzanetti | rpadovani, https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04/Ubuntu.Components.TextField/ | 10:58 |
Elleo | rpadovani: it sounds like you're checking for text before enabled the Okay button, you can fix that by checking for text or the text field's inputMethodComposing being true | 10:58 |
mzanetti | rpadovani, inputMethodComposing | 10:58 |
rpadovani | mzanetti, Elleo thanks :-) | 11:01 |
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dholbach | dpm, did mhall119 say anything about deploying developer.u.c soon? | 12:26 |
dholbach | or do we just need to wait for IS to take care of the ticket? | 12:26 |
dpm | dholbach, as far as I understood it from the call with Mike, we're now just waiting for IS to work on that ticket | 12:36 |
dpm | dholbach, RT #83291 | 12:37 |
dpm | I'll have to see if they need some prodding | 12:37 |
dholbach | ok | 12:38 |
dholbach | thanks | 12:38 |
dpm | I can't see the current status atm, as I can't log into the RT system for some reason | 12:40 |
dholbach | it appears unchanged | 12:40 |
dholbach | it's "size estimate: L" | 12:40 |
dholbach | so might take a bit longer | 12:40 |
dpm | yeah, I could now log in | 12:41 |
dholbach | dpm, the ticket will need escalation | 13:00 |
dholbach | <jacekn> dholbach: nope nothing is blocking it other than lots of tickets with higher priority | 13:00 |
didrocks | zsombi: small question about ListItems: I'm using the new ones from 1.2 (with leading/trailingActions), I was wondering if it can be combined with the Expandable one in any blessed way? | 13:09 |
dpm | dholbach, ok, will work on escalating it, thanks for following up | 13:10 |
zsombi | didrocks: nopez, I'm working on expansion | 13:10 |
dholbach | dpm, thank you! | 13:10 |
didrocks | zsombi: I guess a current solution would be (if no leading/trailing actions are shown) to listen to pressAndHold and change the height? | 13:11 |
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karni | "If the ListItem contains a component which contains an active MouseArea, the clicked signal will be supressed when clicked over this area." -- even if the contained MouseArea is smaller? I'm having an issue where the ListItem's clicked signal is not emitted (I have MouseAreas within, but smaller) | 14:09 |
karni | Any ideas? | 14:09 |
popey | JamesTait: any news on whether we can get rid of all the clutter in https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/reviewer/ ? | 14:23 |
JamesTait | popey, it's still being worked on. | 14:25 |
popey | ok | 14:26 |
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ahayzen | popey, is there a maximum length to the changelog/what's new field in the store? I thought you were going to have to cut the list of changes we had this time ;-) | 18:51 |
kalikiana | if only those were even visible in the ui | 19:04 |
kalikiana | very time I update I briefly see what apps there are, then they're gone, and if by any chance I remember what they were I'll have to dig it up in uappexplorer | 19:04 |
ahayzen | kalikiana, you can see the what's new when you press'n'hold the app in the app scope? if thats what you mean? | 19:05 |
kalikiana | hmmm press and hold doesn't seem to work anymore, it's loading forever | 19:07 |
ahayzen | kalikiana, yeah its really slow at loading, but if it does you can see the changelog/reviews there | 19:07 |
kalikiana | oh, it can't cope with my network for some reason trying to login to a coffee shop that's two streets down and totally out of range | 19:08 |
ahayzen | hah! | 19:08 |
kalikiana | I would think an installed app should somehow be... installed | 19:09 |
kalikiana | yet it only works with wlan | 19:09 |
ahayzen | yeah i guess half of the information is stored locally | 19:09 |
ahayzen | but like the reviews etc is probably remote | 19:09 |
kalikiana | indeed the changelog is there | 19:09 |
ahayzen | \o/ | 19:09 |
kalikiana | so I guess if I can write down all apps before hitting "update" and spend 10 seconds each, I can hunt down the changes | 19:10 |
ahayzen | yeah lol | 19:10 |
kalikiana | sadly I'm not seriously going to | 19:10 |
kalikiana | so I will stick to uappexplorer's "recently changed" view | 19:11 |
kalikiana | thanks anyway for the tip | 19:13 |
ahayzen | np | 19:14 |
mcphail | having a changelog on the update screen would be a great boon | 19:17 |
DanChapman | wow now that's an interesting bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/dekko/+bug/1479464 | 19:21 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1479464 in Dekko "[Dekko 0.5.6]: fail to open mailboxes with USB tethering network" [Undecided,New] | 19:21 |
mcphail | DanChapman: all I can say is doing things in the _other_ direction (using Dekko on the desktop and connecting via USB/phone) works well | 20:12 |
DanChapman | mcphail: yeah i'm not sure what the problem is tbh. Dekko doesn't do anything _special_ here. Cool to know it works the other way round though.:-) | 20:45 |
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DF_ | hi | 23:41 |
DF_ | some one here?? | 23:41 |
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