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kivihi all05:58
kivii'm trying to build a self contained snappy package which has zsh. It requires ncurses; now should I download Ncurses, and extract into my zsh directory? If yes, what folder should I put it in?06:43
kivishould I create a folder called "dependencies" or "src" [already exists], and put it in there?06:43
kivior am I doing this all wrong?06:43
kiviactually I'll ask ubuntu packaging.06:44
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dholbachgood morning07:03
kividholbach, morning07:04
kividholbach, because click packages/ snaps are statically linked, do I need to provide every single dependency, or should I be relying on some dependencies from the system?07:04
kividoes that make sense? I'm just wading into this.07:05
dholbachhey kivi07:07
dholbachkivi, you don't necessarily need to link statically - you could also bundle libraries which are necessary and set someting like LD_LIBRARY_PATH (or something) if that makes things easier07:08
dholbachclicks/snapps can only require a framework to be installed, not packages as in the .deb based world07:09
dholbachI don't know if there's a list of packages that are guaranteed to be in the snappy base...07:09
kividholbach, the question for me is knowing what I can and can not use. Like for example; I can't use an installed python interpreter, so I need to bundle one myself, right?07:10
dholbachyes07:10
dholbachif you log into your phone (or emulator) you can try it out07:11
dholbachphablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ python07:11
dholbach-bash: python: command not found07:11
dholbachphablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$07:11
dholbachon the phone right now you can even use 'dpkg -l'07:11
dholbachon a snappy based system that won't exist anymore07:11
kividholbach, okay, but if I want to be on the safe side, I should bundle all the dependencies myself? Or will that come at a huge cost?07:12
dholbachit'll be a bigger download for your users07:14
kividholbach, but performance will still be fine?07:15
dholbachyep07:17
kividholbach, okay thanks!07:19
kiviOnce I get this down, I think I'll make a few youtube tutorials on this.07:20
dholbachkivi, excellent - thanks a lot! :)07:32
dholbachdpm, I think we wanted to talk about https://strawpoll.me/4482403/r at some stage07:40
dpmdholbach, didn't we make a decision already to use ubuntu-app-devel@?07:57
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dholbachdpm, I can't remember - I'm happy to update developer.u.c and let folks on both lists know08:00
dholbachah developer.u.c is already up to date08:02
dpmok, cool08:05
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dholbachmhall119, do you have any deployment news? :)08:38
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rpadovanipopey, mzanetti I would love a feedback by you on bug #147809410:55
ubot5bug 1478094 in Ubuntu Notes app "Tags wil not allow you to tap okay until the word is released from the keyboard" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147809410:55
mzanettirpadovani, what kind of feedback?10:56
mzanettioh, I see10:56
mzanettihmm10:56
rpadovanimzanetti, wait for an upstream solution or disable predictive text?10:56
mzanettirpadovani, well, there is an upstream solution10:56
rpadovanireally?  I wasn't aware of10:57
mzanettirpadovani, https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04/Ubuntu.Components.TextField/10:58
Elleorpadovani: it sounds like you're checking for text before enabled the Okay button, you can fix that by checking for text or the text field's inputMethodComposing being true10:58
mzanettirpadovani, inputMethodComposing10:58
rpadovanimzanetti, Elleo thanks :-)11:01
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dholbachdpm, did mhall119 say anything about deploying developer.u.c soon?12:26
dholbachor do we just need to wait for IS to take care of the ticket?12:26
dpmdholbach, as far as I understood it from the call with Mike, we're now just waiting for IS to work on that ticket12:36
dpmdholbach, RT #8329112:37
dpmI'll have to see if they need some prodding12:37
dholbachok12:38
dholbachthanks12:38
dpmI can't see the current status atm, as I can't log into the RT system for some reason12:40
dholbachit appears unchanged12:40
dholbachit's "size estimate: L"12:40
dholbachso might take a bit longer12:40
dpmyeah, I could now log in12:41
dholbachdpm, the ticket will need escalation13:00
dholbach<jacekn> dholbach: nope nothing is blocking it other than lots of tickets with higher priority13:00
didrockszsombi: small question about ListItems: I'm using the new ones from 1.2 (with leading/trailingActions), I was wondering if it can be combined with the Expandable one in any blessed way?13:09
dpmdholbach, ok, will work on escalating it, thanks for following up13:10
zsombididrocks: nopez, I'm working on expansion13:10
dholbachdpm, thank you!13:10
didrockszsombi: I guess a current solution would be (if no leading/trailing actions are shown) to listen to pressAndHold and change the height?13:11
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karni"If the ListItem contains a component which contains an active MouseArea, the clicked signal will be supressed when clicked over this area." -- even if the contained MouseArea is smaller? I'm having an issue where the ListItem's clicked signal is not emitted (I have MouseAreas within, but smaller)14:09
karniAny ideas?14:09
popeyJamesTait: any news on whether we can get rid of all the clutter in https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/reviewer/ ?14:23
JamesTaitpopey, it's still being worked on.14:25
popeyok14:26
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ahayzenpopey, is there a maximum length to the changelog/what's new field in the store? I thought you were going to have to cut the list of changes we had this time ;-)18:51
kalikianaif only those were even visible in the ui19:04
kalikianavery time I update I briefly see what apps there are, then they're gone, and if by any chance I remember what they were I'll have to dig it up in uappexplorer19:04
ahayzenkalikiana, you can see the what's new when you press'n'hold the app in the app scope? if thats what you mean?19:05
kalikianahmmm press and hold doesn't seem to work anymore, it's loading forever19:07
ahayzenkalikiana, yeah its really slow at loading, but if it does you can see the changelog/reviews there19:07
kalikianaoh, it can't cope with my network for some reason trying to login to a coffee shop that's two streets down and totally out of range19:08
ahayzenhah!19:08
kalikianaI would think an installed app should somehow be... installed19:09
kalikianayet it only works with wlan19:09
ahayzenyeah i guess half of the information is stored locally19:09
ahayzenbut like the reviews etc is probably remote19:09
kalikianaindeed the changelog is there19:09
ahayzen\o/19:09
kalikianaso I guess if I can write down all apps before hitting "update" and spend 10 seconds each, I can hunt down the changes19:10
ahayzenyeah lol19:10
kalikianasadly I'm not seriously going to19:10
kalikianaso I will stick to uappexplorer's "recently changed" view19:11
kalikianathanks anyway for the tip19:13
ahayzennp19:14
mcphailhaving a changelog on the update screen would be a great boon19:17
DanChapmanwow now that's an interesting bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/dekko/+bug/147946419:21
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1479464 in Dekko "[Dekko 0.5.6]: fail to open mailboxes with USB tethering network" [Undecided,New]19:21
mcphailDanChapman: all I can say is doing things in the _other_ direction (using Dekko on the desktop and connecting via USB/phone) works well20:12
DanChapmanmcphail: yeah i'm not sure what the problem is tbh. Dekko doesn't do anything _special_ here. Cool to know it works the other way round though.:-)20:45
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DF_hi23:41
DF_some one here??23:41

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